Apr 20, 2021 City Council Work Session

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> MAYOR: GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS TUESDAY, APRIL 20, 2021 AND WE ARE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS. AS AUTHORIZED BY SECTION 551.071 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THIS MEETING MAY BE CONVENED INTO CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF SEEKING CONFIDENTIAL LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY ON ANY AGENDA ITEM HEREIN. THE CITY OF ROWLETT RESERVES THE RIGHT TO RECONVENE, RECESS OR REALIGN THE REGULAR SESSION OR CALLED EXECUTIVE SESSION OR ORDER OF BUSINESS AT ANY TIME PRIOR TO ADJOURNMENT. DUE TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY AND TO CONFORM WITH THE SOCIAL DISTANCING REQUIREMENTS, THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS WILL BE HELD VIA TELECONFERENCING. THE PUBLIC CAN VIEW LIVE ON THE CITYB WEBSITE (HTTPS://WWW.CI.ROWL ETT.TX.US/39 7/STREAMING-VIDEO) OR VIA RTN16. TO LISTEN TO THE MEETING LIVE, CALL 1-833-568-8864 AND ENTER MEETING ID#: 160 058 2371 WE ARE GOING TO START OUR LATE AFTERNOON WITH OUR WORK SESSION ITEMS.IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE COMMENT FOR ANY WORK SESSION OR AGENDA ITEM YOU CAN SEND US AN EMAIL BY 3:30 P.M. THE DAY OF THE MEETING . WE WILL NOT TAKE COMMENTS THE DAY

[3A. Joint meeting of Board of Adjustment and Council. (30 minutes)]

CHRIS? >> SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON. >> MAYOR: ARE YOU LAUGHING AT

YOURSELF? >> SPEAKER: I AM. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US AND THANK YOU FOR THE OTHER BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEMBERS FOR BEING WITH US IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THEM I WOULD ASSUME YOU HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION.

>> SPEAKER: I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR INVITING US TO COME OUT AND PARTICIPATE WITH YOU THIS EVENING HERE BEING THAT THIS IS A JOINT MEETING OF COURSE I AM COME HELD TO CALL OUR BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS MEETING INTO SESSION FOR US AS WELL SO I WILL START WITH THAT.

I WOULD ALSO AGAIN, AS YOU MENTIONED, MAYOR, TO INTRODUCE OUR BOARD, THE ONES THAT ARE ON HERE OF COURSE. AGAIN I WAS NAMED THE CHAIR AND WITH ME OF COURSE KIM ROMAIN IS THE VICE CHAIR. OTHER REGULAR MEMBERS OF COURSE ARE JAMES MOSLEY, IF YOU ALL KNOW FROM P&Z. TONY FRITZ AND WE HAVE ALTERNATE DONNA AND SIMONE SKINNER. THERE IS A PRESENTATION AVAILABLE.

ALEX, ARE YOU GOING TO POP THAT UP OR DO YOU WANT ME TO READ IT OFF MY OWN? IS IT SOMETHING THAT COULD POP UP OR NOT? NO? YES? ALL RIGHT, SINCE I ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE, IF YOU WOULD GO TO THE

NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS A RECAP. >> MAYOR: THAT IS ME.

>> SPEAKER: AS A RECAP TO THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE BOARD, THE POA, HERE ARE SOME ACTS ON VARIANCES AND EXCEPTIONS TO THE RDC THAT ARE NOT CONTRARY TO THE PUBLIC AND THIS COULD RESULT IN UNNECESSARY HARDSHIP. WE ALSO IN ADMINISTRATION OF THE ROWLETT DEVELOPMENT CODE, IT ACTS AS A CITY SIGNBOARD OF APPEALS TO ACT UPON REQUEST OF VARIANCES AND EXCEPTIONS TO THE CITY'S SIGN ORDINANCE. AND OF COURSE IT ACTS AS A CITIES BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION REGARDING THE STANDARDS OF STRUCTURES AND OTHER MATTERS TO THE ENFORCEMENT OF CHAPTER 26 FIRE PREVENTION AND CHAPTER 78 FOR BUILDINGS AND BUILDING REGULATIONS. IT ALSO GOES TO THE WELDING AND FIRE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODES. ALEX PUT THIS TOGETHER BUT I'M GOING TO ELABORATE FURTHER ON THIS. THE LAST TIME THIS BOARD HAD A CHANCE TO COME BEFORE COUNSEL, IT WAS IN APRIL OF 2019. SO, I AM GOING TO TAKE A

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WE HAVE MET SEVEN TIMES SINCE ACCOUNT WILL MET WITH US. I'M GOING TO DO THIS SMALLER RECAP AGAIN. WE ARE GOING TO COVER THESE ANYWAY, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

ON MAY 6 OF 19, POA MET TO HEAR A SET BACK REQUEST AT 3410 MAIN STREET WHICH DOES BECOME THE HACIENDA EL CENTRO RESTAURANT. WE MET AGAIN ON AUGUST 26 TWO HERE WHICH WE DENIED REQUESTS TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM FRONT AND SIDE STREET SETBACK FOR A COMMERCIAL PIECE OF PROPERTY AT ARTESIA AND MILLER. WE MET AGAIN ON THE 20TH TO WELCOME OUR NEW MEMBERS.

AT THAT POINT TO REHEAR THE CASE AT WHICH POINT IN TIME WE APPROVED, WE DENIED IT THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE OF SOME INCONSISTENCIES WITHIN THE PACKET BUT ALL OF THAT WAS STRAIGHTENED OUT SO WE APPROVED A SETBACK VARIANCE THAT THEY REQUESTED AGAIN AT THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE LOCATED AT MILLER ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER.

WE MET AGAIN ON FEBRUARY 5 OF LAST YEAR TO HEAR AND APPROVE A REQUEST ON A SERIES OF VARIANCES ON A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF CHEESE AND STANFORD. WE MET AGAIN MARCH 11 TWO HERE AND APPROVE A VARIANCE TO PLACE AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AT DOW ROCK AND THROW RIDGE DRIVE. WE MET AGAIN ON JULY 29 AND WE MET AND APPROVED A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE. THE LAST TIME WE MET OF COURSE WAS ON MARCH 25 WHEN WE MET TO MEET OUR NEW MEMBERS AND ELECT A CHAIR AND CHAIR ELECT. WE HAVE ON HERE THAT WAS FOLLOWED UP ON MARCH 21 WHICH AGAIN IS THE LAST ONE THAT WE HELD.

IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, ALEX WOULD THIS IS A FOLLOW-THROUGH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT POA HAS ASKED US TO DO IS TO STAND ON THE BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION.

THE FOLLOWING CODES HAVE BEEN ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND THIS SERVES AS THE APPEAL BOARD TO THE CODES, THE 2018 INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, 2015 INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE, 2015 INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE AND THE 2015 INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE, 2015 NATIONAL PLUMBING CODE. 2015 INTERNATIONAL MECHANICAL CODE, 2015 INTERNATIONAL FUEL AND GAS CODE AND THE 2015 INTERNATIONAL ENERGY CONSERVATION CODE. UNDER THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE THE CITY MAY POINT AND HEAR CASES CONCERNING ALLEGED VIOLATIONS OF ORDINANCE AND THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT HAS BEEN DESIGNATED AS THE BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION AS I MENTIONED EARLIER.

GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND ALSO UNDER BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION, HERE TO ORDER THE REPAIR OF BUILDINGS FOUND TO BE IN VIOLATION OF THE IN PC TO DECLARE A BUILDING TO BE SUBSTANDARD OR FOR THE REMOVAL OF PERSONS AND PROPERTY FROM SUCH BUILDINGS AND ORDER SANCTIONS TO REMEDY, ALLEVIATE OR REMOVE A SUBSTANDARD BUILDING.

WE ARE ALSO HERE TO ISSUE ORDERS TO THE LAW AND CARRY OUT THE ORDERS OF THE COMMISSION AND DETERMINE CIVIL PENALTIES. THAT IS A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE BOA IS AND WAS DONE FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE PRESENTATIONS AND THAT IS THE PRESENTATION IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I WOULDBE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM .

>> MAYOR: THANK YOU SO MUCH CHRIS AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOUR FACES, WE HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT OF YOU IN A LONG, LONG TIME.

I HOPE WE CAN SEE MORE OF YOU IN THE NOT-TOO-DISTANT FUTURE. COUNTY AND COUNSELED YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT ? YES, GO AHEAD.

COUNCIL MEMBER MARGOLIS. >> COUNCIL MEMBER MARGOLIS: I THINK THIS IS FOR THE BOARD AS A QUESTION, WHAT IS THE CITY TO DO ABOUT ABANDONED STRUCTURES? I NOTICED IN THE LAST YEAR OF AN UP TICK IN ABANDONED HOMES. CAN YOU TELL US WHERE THAT PROCESS WORKS AND WHERE BOA

COMES INTO PLAY WITH THAT? >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER MARGOLIS FOR THE

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WE HAVE DEFINITELY RELIED ON THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT FOR MORE MORE IMPORTANTLY WE ADOPTED THE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE AND THAT PUTS US IN A BETTER STANDING TO DETERMINE IF A STRUCTURE IS UP TO CODE OR NOT CURED WE WILL BE ASSESSING VACANT OR RANDOM STRUCTURES AND THEN FROM THERE DETERMINING IF THERE IS OPPORTUNITY TO CONTACT THE PROPERTY OWNER AND DETERMINE IF INDEED THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL NEEDS TO THEN GET A TERMINATION THAT THOSE BUILDINGS ARE INDEED SUBSTANDARD OR IN NEED OF REPAIR AND THEN HAVE THAT HEARING TO DETERMINE THE NEXT STEP AS IT RELATES TO THE

VIABILITY OF THAT PROPERTY. >> COUNCIL MEMBER MARGOLIS: THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION,

IT REALLY HELPS. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU VERY MUCH DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COUNSEL? ALL RIGHT WOULD YOU LIKE TO JOIN YOUR MEETING CHRIS?

>> SPEAKER: I WOULD. I WOULD LIKE TO BE SURE TO THANK ALX FOR THAT PRESENTATION AND IF THERE IS NO OTHER QUESTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO ADJOURN OUR BOA, BOARD OF

ADJUSTMENT MEETING AND THANK YOU COUNSEL. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, GENTLEMEN IT IS VALUED AND VERY IMPORTANT. IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL.

>> SPEAKER: TAKE CARE. >> MAYOR: NEED TO GET SOME WOMEN ON THE COMMISSION.

[LAUGHTER] ALL RIGHT WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO 3B. HEAR A PRESENTATION FROM

[3B. Hear a presentation from Lee Engineering on a traffic study for two existing horizontal curves on Dalrock Road between Briarcrest Drive and Champion Drive. (45 minutes)]

THIS ONE IS FROM TOMMY HENDRY. MY PROPERTY HAS BEEN DAMAGED THREE TIMES SINCE DECEMBER 11, 2020. BEFORE THAT MY FENCE WAS HIT TIMES THE WORST WAS SIDBURY 28, 2021 WHEN A TRUCK HIT OUR NEIGHBORS HOUSE AND THEN RAN INTO ONE OF MY BEDROOMS COSTING $50,000 TO MY BEDROOM ALONE. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME A VEHICLE HAS HIT MY NEIGHBORS HOUSE. AT A MINIMUM, A GUARD RAIL ON THE NORTHBOUND SIDE OF THE CURB SHOULD BE INSTALLED. INSTALLING CURBING ON THAT SITE SHOULD HELP.

THE SPEED LIMIT SHOULD BE REDUCED FROM 40 MPH TO 30 MPH. IF YOU TAKE MEASURES TO PROTECT PROPERTY AND CITIZENS ALONG DALROCK ROAD. CAN SOMEONE TAKE NOTES? I WANT OUR PRESENTATION TO ADDRESS SPECIFIC ITEMS IN THE CITIZEN COMMENTS.

>> SPEAKER: GARY, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE DOING THAT AS WE GO?

>> SPEAKER: YES SIR. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THE NEXT ONE IS FROM ROBERT. [INDISCERNABLE] 7801 SPINNAKER COVE.

I LOVE MY HOME AND I LOVE THE CITY OF ROWLETT. ON THE SURFACE YOU MAY SEE ME AS A CONCERNED RESIDENT, ADJUSTER VOTER AND TAXPAYER BUT I AM MORE THAN THAT.

I AM A SON, A BROTHER, AND UNCLE IN A NEW FATHER. THE SAME THING CAN BE SAID HAS BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE YOU ALL TODAY. ON THE SURFACE IT IS A DANGEROUS CURVE THAT HAS CAUSED MANY ACCIDENTS. ACCIDENTS THAT HAVE DAMAGED DEFENSES AND HOMES ALONG THE CURB. IT IS DEEPLY AFFECTED THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS THAT LIVE HERE AND IT HAS HAD AN EFFECT ON OUR CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN, SIBLINGS AND PARENTS. WE KNOW LONGER FEEL SAFE IN OUR OWN HOMES. WE CAN NO LONGER LET OUR CHILDREN OR GRANDCHILDREN IN OUR OWN BACKYARDS FOR FEAR OF GETTING STRUCK VIA OLD. WE CAN NO LONGER HAVE OUR FAMILY COME AND STAY FOR A VISIT AND FEEL CONFIDENT THEY WILL SAY SLEEPING IN OUR BEDROOMS. WE ARE CONSTANTLY FEARED WITH FEAR AND ANXIETY EVERY TIME WE HEAR A VEHICLE ROARED DOWN THE ROAD. MY NEIGHBORS HAVE HAD A VEHICLE EMBEDDED IN THE KITCHEN THE SECOND TIME THEY HAVE HAD VEHICLE EMBEDDED IN IT.

BILLY OTHER NEIGHBOR HAD A VEHICLE SLAM INTO THE GUEST BEDROOM, THE SAME BEDROOM THERE AND CHILDREN'S SLEEP AND WHEN THEY VISIT. I'VE ALSO HAD A NEIGHBOR GET.

MY WIFE HAD FINALLY GOTTEN OVER THE STRESS AND FEAR OF HEARING EVERY CAR PASS BY WHEN WE HAD ANOTHER CAR PLUNGED THROUGH OUR BACKYARD APRIL 3. THIS TIME IT WENT RIGHT PAST MY WIFE AND 3 WEEK OLD DAUGHTER. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE CURVE SAFER.

I SEE ADDITIONAL SIGNS AND PAPERS AND ONE REFLECTIVE POLL INSTALLED.

ONE POLL WAS THROWN AGAINST MY HOUSE WITH THE PAST RICK. THIS IS MADE EASIER TO FIND.

I DO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE I MUST ASK YOU, NO I MUST BEG YOU TO DO MORE.HEN THE

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THINK ABOUT YOUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS. WOULD YOU BE CONTENT WITH SIGNS AND REFLECTORS AS THE ONLY THING STAND ME BETWEEN THEM AND A VEHICLE? PLEASE DO NOT WAIT BEFORE SOMEONE GETS KILLED. PLEASE MAKE THE CHOICE TO

PROTECT YOUR RESIDENCE LIKE WE ARE YOUR FAMILY.THANK YOU. >>> THE NEXT ONE IS FROM JASON.

[INDISCERNABLE] . MY FAMILY HAS LIVED ON THE CORNER OF DALROCK ROAD FOR TWO YEARS. WE LOVE THE AREA AS IT HAS PROVIDED A REMOTE FILL IN THE CITY HOWEVER THE TRAFFIC ON DALROCK ROAD HAS INCREASED TO LEVELS OF NEVER SEEN BEFORE. SPEEDY CARS ARE OUT OF CONTROL. AS NOTED IN YOUR AGENDA ITEM NOTE THE AVERAGE SPEED ON THIS ROAD EXCEEDS THE SPEED LIMIT AND 16.33 PERCENT OF ALL VEHICLE TRAFFIC SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN TICKETS. THE SPEED SIGN WAS ONLY DEPLOYED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CURB SO THIS IS NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE RACING CARS COMING OUT OF THE CURB. A SLIGHT, IT DOES REGISTER SPEEDS IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE SAFETY OF THE HOMEOWNERS IS AT STAKE. THE AGENDA ITEM NOTES DO NOT COMMENT ON THE CHEW HOUSES THAT HAVE BEEN HIT IN RECENT MONTHS. WITH ANOTHER FENCE COLLISION THIS PAST WEEK THAT IS ALSO NOT INCLUDED. FURTHER, IT DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE MULTIPLE VEHICLES THAT HAVE LEFT THE ROADWAYS INTO OUR YARDS AND LEFT THE ROADWAYS ON THEIR OWN RECOGNIZANCE. THIS UNPROTECTED CURB IS A DEATH WAITING TO HAPPEN. THERE IS NO COEFFICIENT OR FRICTION THAT PREVENTS DWI, DESTRUCTIVE DRIVING OR SPEEDING. CARS WILL CONTINUE TO LEAVE THAT SURFACE AND SOMEONE IT IS GOING TO PAY WITH THEIR LIFE. WE'VE BEEN TOLD REPEATEDLY THAT BARRIERS ARE NOT THE ANSWER. I IMPLORE SOMEONE TO EXPLAIN THAT TO THESE FAMILIES WHO CAN NO LONGER SLEEP OR LET THEIR CHILDREN OUT TO PLAY FOR FEAR OF A CAR LANDINGTHEM.

PLEASE MAKE THIS RIGHT. PLEASE LOWER THE SPEED AND ENFORCING AND PROVIDE A SAFETY BARRIER FOR OUR HOUSES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>> AND X1 IS FROM ANNA REW AS. WE MOVED INTO THE HOUSE BECAUSE WE LOVE THE YARD, THE SPACE BECAUSE OUR DOGS AND BOYS NEEDED TO RUN. WE EVEN LIKE TO GRILL IN THE BACK AND BOUGHT BILLY BUILT A FORT FOR THE BOYS. OUR HOUSE USED TO BE A FUN HOUSE WHERE THEIR COUSINS CAN GO AND PLAY WITH THEM. BUT, UNFORTUNATELY THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO BE OUTSIDE BECAUSE OF THE ACCIDENT THAT HAPPENED. SLEEPING IN OUR HOME HAS NOT BEEN THE SAME BECAUSE WE DO NOT KNOW IF WE WILL BE AWAKENED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT DUE TO ANOTHER THER ACCIDENT. WE ARE TOO SCARED TO LEAVE FOR THE WEEKEND GOD FOR BID ANOTHER CAR HITS AGAIN. THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE AS HOMEOWNERS SHOULD NOT WORRY ABOUT ON A DAILY BASIS. WE ARE NO LONGER COMFORTABLE IN OUR OWN HOME.

THERE HAVE BEEN FIVE ACCIDENTS IN THE LAST FIVE MONTHS. THIS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD NOT DEAL WITH ON A DAILY BASIS. A TRACTOR-TRAILER WAS PUT IN PLACE AND THE HIGH-SPEED IT CAUGHT WAS 120 MPH.HAT IF THAT CAR HIT ONE OF THE HOUSES? OUR HOUSE FOR SURE CANNOT AFFORD TO HAVE ANOTHER HIT. WE ASK YOU TO PUT YOURSELF IN OUR SHOES AND UNDERSTAND HOW WE FEEL. HOME SHOULD BE A PLACE WHERE YOU FEEL SAFE BUT NO LONGER FEELS LIKE A SAFE LACE FOR US. WOULD YOU FEEL SAFE? THANK YOU.

>>> THE NEXT LETTER IS FROM CHARLENE JOHNSON, 7729 DALROCK ROAD.

I HAVE BEEN A CITIZEN OF ROWLETT SINCE 1975. I AM COMMENTING ON THE DANGEROUS CURVE ON DALROCK ROAD. WHEN I MOVED HERE YEARS AGO DALROCK ROAD WAS NOT HIGHLY TRAVELED. AS DALROCK ROAD'S POPULATION HAS GONE TO OVER 62,000+ RESIDENTS AND SEVERAL HOME ADDITIONS BEING BUILT, THE ROAD TRAFFIC HAS INCREASED CONSIDERABLY AS WELL AS THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS ALONG THE CURVE. LIVING DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE HOMES IN THE SPINNAKER COVE ADDITION WHO HAVE HAD CONSIDERABLE DAMAGE ONE HOME BEING HIT BY ELITE THREE HOMES AND ONE WHERE THE VEHICLE WAS EMBEDDED INSIDE BEFORE COMING TO A STOP AS WELL AS SEVERAL FENCES BEING DESTROYED I HAVE OBSERVED THE ACCIDENTS BECOMING MORE FREQUENT AND MORE LIFE-THREATENING. WHENEVER THE ADDITION OF THE COVE LEE SPINNAKER COVE BEING BUILT THE BUILDERS OF THE HOMES HAD TO OF HAD PERMISSION FROM THE CITY OF ROWLETT TO BUILD HOUSES CLOSE TO THE SEAT PLEASE STREET.

NOW I'M ASKING THE CITY OF ROWLETT TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY ENDS GIVE MY NEIGHBORS SAFETY FROM THIS DANGEROUS CURVE BUT BUILDING SOME TYPE OF BARRIER FROM THIS BUSY STREET AND THEIR HOMES BEFORE SOMEONE OR SOMEONE PLAYING IN THERE BACKYARD IS

KILLED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>> THE NEXT LETTER IS FROM DON GARDNER. THIS IS TRULY A LIFE-AND-DEATH SITUATION FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THIS CURVE. IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE AN ADULT, CHILD OR FAMILY PET IS KILLED IN THERE OWN BACKYARD, IF NOT INSIDE THEIR OWN HOME.

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PEOPLE DRIVING AT HIGH RATES OF SPEED, EVEN THE POLICE. IT IS TOO DANGEROUS AT THOSE SPEEDS. THE POLL ARE ALSO UNSUSPECTING OF THE CURVE AND TAKE IT TOO FAST NOT PAYING ATTENTION. MY SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE SPEED BUMPS, CONCRETE GUARDS BY THE SPEED LINE OR A BRICK WALL BARRIER ALONG DALROCK ROAD.E ARE FIGHTING FOR OUR NEIGHBORS LIVES AND ACTION NEEDS TO BE TAKEN NOW. THANK YOU FOR YOUR

CONSIDERATION. >>> NEXT IS CARODYER'S REPRESENTING THE NEIGHBORS OF

SPINNAKER COVE COMMUNITY. >> TO OUR MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OF ROWLETT.E'VE COME TOGETHER AND WE NEED PEOPLE TO HEAR ABOUT THESE ACCIDENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED FOR YEARS AND ONE DEATH. WE ASKED FOR HELP TO PUT UP SPEED PASSES IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. GOD PLEASE HELP THESE PEOPLE. THIS IS READING SPEED IN BOTH DIRECTIONS. WE MADE CAUTION LIGHTS, ROAD PAVERS, AND WE HAD REFLECTORS ON THE FENCES. THE ACCIDENTS ARE IN THE SHARPEST PART OF THE CURVE DID REDUCE THE STREET PLEASE BE ON THE STREET TO 25 AS YOU PASS THE DAYCARE HAD PAVED SIDEWALKS ALSO. WE HAVE PICTURES, WE KNOW ABOUT THE MEETING OF THE 20TH WE NEED SOMETHING MORE IN THE MEANTIME. THESE ARE OUR FAMILIES, WHAT IF IT WAS YOURS?

SINCERELY. >>> AND, THERE ARE TWO MORE. >>> THIS IS FROM TONY MCGARRAH 7610 DALROCK ROAD. I HAVE OWNED THE PROPERTY ON THE 7600 BLOCK OF DALROCK ROAD FOR 20 YEARS. IN THAT TIME I HAVE SEEN TOO MANY ACCIDENTS TO COUNT ON THE CURB IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE. HOWEVER, WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THERE IS A LARGE INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENT. THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES COMING DOWN THE ROAD HAS INCREASED AND HAS HAD AN IMPACT ON THAT SO WHAT IS TO BE DONE ABOUT IT? HERE IS WHAT I OBSERVED, THE ROAD IS HIGHER THAN THE DITCH. ONCE A DRIVER'S TIRES LEAVE CONTACT WITH THE ROAD THEY HAVE NO CHANCE OF RECOVERY SO THEY GO INTO A DITCH, INTO A FENCE, INTO PEOPLE'S YARDS OR IN SOME CASES INTO THEIR HOMES. MOST CASES HAPPEN AT NIGHT HEAR THE ROAD IS POORLY LIT AND PEOPLE DRIVE TOO FAST. IN MANY CASES THE DRIVERS ARE IMPAIRED. THE CITY HAS DETERINED THAT A GUARD RAIL CANNOT BE USED BECAUSE IT COULD LAUNCH CARS INTO ONCOMING TRAFFIC. THIS IS HYPOTHETICAL.

WHAT ARE THE STATS TO BACK UP THIS THINKING? WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT THE VEHICLES ARE WINDING UP IN PEOPLE'S YARDS AND HOMES. SOMETHING MUST BE DONE BEFORE SOMEONE GETS KILLED. SIGNAGE MIGHT HELP BUT ALL IS SIGNAGE DIGITAL OR OTHERWISE PLACED ON THE CURB WILL NOT STOP THE SPEEDING OR A DISTRACTED OR DRUNK DRIVER FLYING OFF THE ROAD. THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME TYPE OF BARRIER.

I HAVE DRIVEN ALL OVER DALLAS AND ROCKWELL COUNTY AND HAVE SEEN BARRIERS EVERYWHERE.

WHY IS ROWLETT THE ONLY CITY THAT I AM AWARE OF DEBTORS TAKING THE STANCE ON GUARDRAILS? BY THE WAY THERE ARE GUARDRAILS AT THE CREEK.

WHY ARE GUARDRAILS OKAY AT THE CREEK NOT TO PROTECT THE HOMES? IF NOT GUARDRAILS AND WHAT ELSE? CURBS, ROLLING GUARDRAILS, SPEED HUMPS, LOWER THE ROAD, WHAT? I AM NO ENGINEER BUT I'M WAITING FOR A SUGGESTION FROM ONE TO MAKE SENSE TO ME. LIVES ARE AT STAKE. IN QUEUE.

>>> THE LAST LETTER IS FROM SHARON VAN. [INDISCERNABLE] . I LIVE ON DALROCK ROAD AT 8005 AND I AM SICK OF THE TREATMENT WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN. PHIL SHAFTED. I HAVE LIVED HERE SINCE 1999 AND MY GRANDPARENTS INHERITED THE LAND FROM MY GREAT GREAT GRANDPARENTS AND BUILT HIS HOUSE IN 1968. I HAVE PERSONALLY BEEN AFFECTED BY CARS RUNNING OFF THE ROAD AND INTO MY YARD. ONE CONTINUED ON AND WENT THROUGH 7818 WOODCREEK DRIVE AND IT TOOK OUT MY WILLOW TREE AND SEVERAL CREPE MYRTLE'S. MORE ACCIDENTS, CARS RUNNING OFF THE ROAD OR HITTING MAILBOX HAVE HAPPENED THEN WHAT YOU HAVE REPORTED BECAUSE THE DRIVERS CALLED TOW TRUCKS AND GET THE CARS PULLED OUT AND LEAVE BEFORE THE POLICE GET A CHANCE TO BE CALLED. IN ADDITION, YOU CONTINUE TO RAISE OUR ROAD.

LOOK AT MINE AND MY NEIGHBORS DRIVEWAYS AT 8009 WHERE THE CITY HAS POURED ASPHALT ON TOP OF OUR NEW DRIVEWAYS WHICH CAUSES THEM TO CRACK. OUR MAILBOXES UP AND DOWN DALROCK ROAD HAVE BEEN UNDER SIEGE AND MINE IS THE LAST ONES STANDING CAUSING THE U.S. POST OFFICE TO PULL INTO A POWER DRIVEWAYS TO SAFELY DELIVER OUR MAIL.

ONCE UPON A TIME PRINCETON WAS A SIDE STREET AND DALROCK ROAD WAS THE MAIN ROAD WHERE THE CITY HAS DECIDED TO PAVE IT AGAIN AND AGAIN.IT IS TIME TO HAVE THE CITY STEP UP AND PUT

AN END TO OUR DANGEROUS ROAD. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: AS A GENERAL COMMENT WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE ALL OF OUR CITIZEN COMMENT. THEY ARE VERY IMPORTANT COMMENTS AND WE WILL START OUR PRESENTATION NOW. GARY, DO YOU WANT TO START THE

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PRESENTATION OFF? THIS IS GARY FROM PUBLIC WORKS. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU MAYOR AND THOSE HAVING ME TONIGHT. WITH ME IS JOSH SMITH FROM LEE ENGINEERING.

WE PERFORMED A TRAFFIC STUDY ON THE CHEW CURVES ON DALROCK ROAD NORTH OF PRINCETON ROAD.

JOSH WILL GIVE THE RECOMMENDED IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE STUDY AND STAFF IS SEEKING CONSENSUS ON THE IMPROVEMENTS PRESENTED. I HAVE NOTE HERE, GUARDRAILS MENTIONED FIVE TIMES.

SPEED LIMIT, TWO TIMES, A SPEED LIMIT THAT YOU HAD SUGGESTED. RUMBLE STRIPS, REFLECTORS ON FENCES, THE HEIGHT OF THE DITCH, POORLY LIT ROADS, SIGNAGE AND ALL OF THAT WILL BE

ADDRESSED IN THE PRESENTATION. JOSH? >> SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL HAD THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LET ME BE. MY NAME IS JOSH SMITH AND I AM WITH LEE ENGINEERING.

TO ALL THE CITIZENS THAT HAVE SUBMITTED THOSE LETTERS AND LIVE A LONG DALROCK ROAD OR SPINNAKER COVE, I HAVE BEEN WALKING THOSE CURVES AND THINKING ABOUT THE CONCERNS YOU HAVE AND WE ARE ABSOLUTELY COMMITTED AT LEE ENGINEERING TO PROVIDE THE CITY WITH THE BEST RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SAFETY THAT WE CAN. WE ARE AWARE OF THOSE CONCERNS AND I BELIEVE WE WILL BE ABLE TO DISCUSS MANY OF WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE THINK CAN BE DONE TO IMPROVE THE SPEED AT THESE LOCATIONS. THE TWO LOCATIONS, OF COURSE, ARE HERE ON DALROCK ROAD.

MOST EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE THEY ARE. THE NORTH CURVE IS UP THERE IT IS A SHARP CURVE AND THE SOUTH CURVE IS DOWN THERE BY BRIAR CREST BETWEEN BRIAR CREST AND YACHT CLUB.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE NORTH CURVE, IT IS PRETTY TIGHT, ONLY A 20 FOOT RADIUS AT THAT CURVE. THE CITY IN JANUARY 2020 IMPLEMENTED SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAD BEEN DESCRIBED AS, FOR THE MOST PART, ALREADY, THE WHITE ELIMINATOR POSTS THAT HAVE A LITTLE REFLECTOR AT THE TOP TO PROVIDE BETTER VISIBILITY ESPECIALLY AT NIGHTTIME OR DURING RAINY TIMES SO DRIVERS CAN BE THAT CURVE AND STAY ON THE ROAD.

AND THEN THE RADARS NEED FEEDBACK SIGNS TO TELL DRIVERS HOW FAST THEY ARE GOING AS THEY APPROACH THOSE CURBS FOR MORE OPPORTUNITY TO SLOW DOWN AND NAVIGATE THE CURBS SUCCESSFULLY. NEXT SLIDE AS A SELF CURB AND I THINK THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE HAVE THE LETTERS OF CONCERN ABOUT AS DALROCK ROAD GOES AROUND THE CURB HEADING NORTH APPROACHING THE HOMES ON BOA THAT YOU SEE AT THE TOP OF THE IMAGE. IN JANUARY THE CITY PUT IN SOME NEW LARGE YELLOW ARROW SIGNS, REFLECTIVE PAYMENT MARKERS AND THE SAME WHITE ELIMINATOR'S ARE THE YELLOW MARKERS ON THE ROADWAY. OF COURSE THEY CAN ALSO HELP DRIVERS TO NAVIGATE THE CURVE BETTER AND IDENTIFY HOW SHARP IT IS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

WE MEASURED THE SPEEDS OUT THERE WAS SOME REFERENCE TO THE

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WE FOUND THE ONLY 15 PERCENT OF DRIVERS THERE ALSO WERE GOING 35 OR SLOWER AND THE FASTEST 5 PERCENT WERE 49 MPH OR HIGHER.

NEXT SLIDE. THE CRASHES, I KNOW MANY OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN THERE LONGER THAN FIVE YEARS AND HAVE EXPERIENCED OTHER CRASHES. WE LOOKED AT THE LAST FIVE YEARS OF CRASH RECORDS THAT THE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT PROVIDED TO US. AT THE NORTH CURVE THERE WERE 19 CRASHES IN THE LAST 5+ YEARS AND SO, WE LOOKED AT BEFORE AND AFTER ON THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE MADE.

THAT WORKS OUT TO 3.75 CRASHES PER YEAR FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS AND A YEAR PLUS SINCE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT CRASH RATE HAS BECOME A LITTLE BIT BETTER. 3.2 CRASHES PER YEAR IN THAT YEAR PLUS SINCE THEN. IT IS A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME BECAUSE, WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT IF I WERE LIVING IN ONE OF THOSE HOMES, THE CRASHES WOULD SEEM EXTREMELY FREQUENT SO I DON'T WANT TO DISCOUNT THAT AT ALL.

RELATIVE TO THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT TRAVEL THAT ROADWAY, THOUSANDS OF CARS PER DAY THAT TRAVEL, CRASHES IN THAT SENSE ARE A RARE EVENT IN THANKFULLY YOU DON'T HVE 10 PERCENT OF VEHICLES THAT TRAVEL THE ROADWAY HAVING CRASHES.

CRASHES BEING A RARE EVENT, SOMETIMES THE RATE CAN FLUCTUATE A LITTLE BIT AND IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A RANDOM EVENT WHEN YOU SEE AN UPTICK IN CRASHES.

AT THE SOUTH CURB WE SAW 16+ CRASHES.

2 1/4 CRASHES PER YEAR OR NINE OF THOSE 16 CRASHES HAPPEN IN THE FIRST FOUR YEAR TIME PERIOD THAT WE SAW.

IN THAT TIME THERE HAVE BEEN SEVEN CRASHES.

AT LEAST IT IS NOT ANYTHING MORE.

THIS IS A SHORT TIME TO EVALUATE CRASHES.

WE CANNOT SAY FOR SURE THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS MADE THINGS WORSE BY THEMSELVES JUST LIKE YOU WOULDN'T FLIP A COIN THREE TIMES GET HEADS EACH TIME AND THEN SAY I CAN EXPECT THAT OUTCOME TO CONTINUE INDEFINITELY.

BUT WE DEFINITELY CANNOT LOOK AT THAT AND SAY THOSE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE MADE THINGS MUCH BETTER.

IT WOULD TAKE A LONGER TRIAL PERIOD TO KNOW IF THINGS IMPROVED. WE WILL DISCUSS THAT IN A MINUTE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE? THE POLICE REPORT LISTS SEVERAL CONTRACTING FACTORS.

SPEED IS AT THE TOP OF THE CHART THERE.

ONE OF THE TOP FACTORS LISTED EITHER FAILURE TO CONTROL SPEED OR UNSAFE SPEED FOR CONDITIONS AND THAT REPRESENTS THE MAJORITY OF THE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS CITED BY THE POLICE OFFICERS WHEN THEY MAKE THEIR REPORTS ON THE CRASHES.

WE RECOGNIZE THAT NOT ALL CRASHES ARE RECORDED.

WE ARE ONLY ABLE TO ANALYZE THE REPORTS THAT WE HAVE RECORDS ABOUT. YOU CAN SEE THERE THAT FOUR OF THE CRASHES, FOUR OF THE 16 IN THE SOUTHERN CURVE HAD ALCOHOL AS A FACTOR. ONLY ONE INVOLVED DRIVER INATTENTION BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT OFFICERS COULD HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME DETERMINING BECAUSE THEY CAN ONLY INTERVIEW THE DRIVER AND THERE MIGHT NOT BE OTHER EVIDENCE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT DRIVER WAS PAYING ATTENTION OR NOT. THERE ARE MANY FACTORS.

MANY OF THEM ARE RELATED TO DRIVERS HEAR THERE ARE OTHER THINGS WE CAN DO ON THE ROADWAY SITE TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AS HAS BEEN NOTED. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE? THANK YOU. THE WET WEATHER FACTOR IS A BIG FACTOR AT BOTH OF THESE LOCATIONS.

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NEXT SLIDE. THE PROPERTY DAMAGE HAS ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED IN GREAT DETAIL COULD WE JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE SAW VERY SIMILAR THINGS TO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. AT THE NORTH CURVE DIDN'T SEE A LOT OF SIGNIFICANT PROPERTY DAMAGE.

AT THAT LOCATION IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS ANECDOTALLY I AM AWARE THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PRIOR TO THE LAST FIVE YEARS, THERE WAS ONE CRASH WHERE SOMEONE PUT A LANDSCAPING ROCK IN FRONT OF THE HOME THAT HAD BEEN STRUCK OTHER THAN THAT IF YOU SIGNS, A FIRE HYDRANT, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SOUTH CURVE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LETTERS OF CONCERN THAT WE JUST LISTEN TO. WE SAW A LOT OF PROPERTY DAMAGE.1 CRASHES WHERE FENCES HAD BEEN DAMAGED AND THAT WAS IN THE POLICE RECORDS. SIX DIFFERENT DRIVERS HAD STRUCK UTILITY POLES AND THOSE ARE A HAZARD FOR THE DRIVER AND ALSO, ONCE THEY ARE STRUCK THAT DRIVER IS UNABLE TO REGAIN CONTROL OF THE VEHICLE. AND THEN AS WAS NOTED, THE FENCE AT ONE HOME WAS STRUCK SEVEN TIMES.

TWO OTHER HOMES HAD THEIR FENCES STRUCK FOUR TIMES A PIECE. NEXT SLIDE.

SO THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE OBSERVED.

LOOKING AT THE FIELD, SEEING WHAT IS OUT THERE AND LOOKING AT THE CRASH RECORDS AND SPEED DATA.

SO, WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT IT? FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION, THIS GRAPHIC CAME FROM THEM. THEY DISCUSSED THREE DIFFERENT OBJECTIVES FOR DEALING WITH RUN OFF THE ROAD CRASHES.

MOST OF THESE CRASHES ESPECIALLY AT THE SOUTH CURVE WERE RUN OFF THE ROAD CRASHES. NORTH CURVE WE SAW SEVERAL SIDESWIPED WHERE A VEHICLE IN THE NORTHBOUND LANE GOING RIGHT HAND AROUND THE CURVE WOULD LOSE CONTROL AND MOVE OVER INTO THE LEFT-HAND LANE IN THE SOUTHBOUND LANE AND STRIKE A CAR THERE. AT THE SOUTHERN CURVE WE DIDN'T SEE ANY OF THAT. ALL OF THE CRASHES INVOLVED NORTHBOUND VEHICLES DRIVING OFF THE ROAD.

SOME OF THEM STOPPED SHORT OF THE FENCES.

MANY OF THEM HIT THE FENCES AND AS NOTED THREE HOMES WERE STRUCK IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS. WE WANT TO 1ST KEEP VEHICLES ON THE ROADWAY. THAT IS THE BEST OUTCOME FOR EVERYONE HERE FOR RESIDENTS, DRIVERS AND GENERAL PUBLIC.

IF THAT CAN HAPPEN THE NEST ELITE NEXT BEST OPTION IS TO PROVIDE UTTER COVERAGE. THERE ARE DRIVERS THAT ARE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL. SOME COUNTERMEASURES WON'T NECESSARILY HELP WITH THAT PROBLEM.

BUT EVEN IF SOMEONE WHO IS UNDER THE INFLUENCE, THEY HAVE GOTTEN THAT FAR IN THERE TRIP UNFORTUNATELY.

WE WISH THEY WERE DRIVING AT ALL BUT THEY'VE GOTTEN THAT FAR. MOST DRIVERS HAVE THE ABILITY TO RECOVER FROM AN INERRANT MANEUVER.

WE WANT EVERYBODY TO BACK IN CONTROL OF THEIR VEHICLE AND THEN GET BACK ON THE ROAD FOR AN AREA OF SAFER RECOVERY AS MUCH AS THEY CAN. RIGHT NOW THE DITCH IS ADJACENT TO DALROCK ROAD. THE DITCHES ARE VERY HARD TO MAINTAIN CONTROL ONCE YOU HIT A DITCH AT THAT SPEED.

ONCE SOMEBODY HITS A DITCH THEN IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO RETAIN CONTROL OF THE VEHICLE. WHEN THAT CAN'T HAPPEN THE NEXT OBJECTIVE IS TO REDUCE THE CRASH SEVERITY PAIRED WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES, REDUCE THE SEVERITY FOR HO.

THAT IS A QUESTION FOR NEIGHBORS AND DRIVERS WHO DRIVE ON DALROCK ROAD. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

I WILL TALK ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN WE WILL HAVE SOME TIME FOR QUESTIONS, OF COURSE.

I WILL ORGANIZE THESE BY LOCATION.

AT THE NORTH CURVE, WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT FIRST.

THE APPROACH PAVEMENT THERE IS APPROACHING THE CURVE IN THE SOUTHBOUND DIRECTION AND SEEN IN THIS PICTURE IT CAN BE IMPROVED. NORTHBOUND THE PAVEMENT IS GOOD AND WOULD NOT NEED TO BE REPLACED BUT THROUGH THE CURVE AND ON THE SOUTHBOUND APPROACH WE RECOMMEND UPGRADED PAVEMENT THERE. THAT WILL FACTOR INTO ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION THAT I WILL MENTION IN A MOMENT.

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NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. FOR BOTH CURVES WE RECOMMEND STRONGLY THE USE OF A HIGH FRICTION SURFACE TREATMENT.

THIS MAY AT FIRST GLANCE MEAN THAT WE ARE SAYING JUST PUT OUT NEW PAVEMENT AND MAKE IT LIKE IT WAS WHEN IT WAS BRAND-NEW.

THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE SAYING HERE.

THESE HIGH FRICTION SURFACE TREATMENTS ARE EXTRA FRICTION TREATMENTS THAT MAKE THE PAVEMENT BETTER THAN NEW PAVEMENT. THE TYPE OF PAVEMENT THAT IS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW WE DID SOME MEASUREMENTS AND AT THE SOUTHERN CURVE IT IS STILL GOOD QUALITY PAVEMENT.

AS GOOD AS CAN BE EXPECTED FOR TYPICAL PAVEMENT.

AT HIGH CRASH LOCATIONS SUCH AS HORIZONTAL CURVES, THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION HAS IDENTIFIED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, REALLY, WE WILL SHOW A VIDEO IN A MOMENT, HOPEFULLY JUST FROM 2014 WHERE THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT THESE HIGHER FRICTION SURFACE TREATMENTS CAN MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN KEEPING CARS ON THE ROAD. WE WOULD RECOMMEND REALLY BRIEFLY THE PICTURE IN THE LOWER LEFT THERE THERE ARE A COUPLE SPOTS WHERE THERE IS AN EDGE DROP OFF OF A FEW INCHES AND THAT CAN IMPACT THE AMOUNT OF CONTROL THAT DRIVERS ARE ABLE TO RETAIN AND THEY GO OFF THE ROADWAY.

SO, A WEDGE OF EARTH AND THERE TO LEVEL THAT OUT AND SMOOTH IT OUT CAN OFTEN TIMES GO A LONG WAYS IN HELPING DRIVERS REGAIN CONTROL. THE SUPER ELEVATION OR THE BANKING OF THE CURVE THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, BRIEFLY, IF YOU WENT TO TEXAS MOTOR SPEEDWAY YOU WOULD SEE THAT THAT IS A BIG ANGLE. ON LOCAL ROADS LIKE THIS IT IS VERY MILD. IT IS HARD TO NOTICE BUT IS THERE. THE SUPER ELEVATION AS WE NOTED IN OUR REPORT TO STAFF WAS BURIED A LITTLE BIT THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF A WALL THERE AND IT DIDN'T SEEM TO BE ANYTHING TOO SERIOUS BUT WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE NEXT TIME THAT THE ROADWAYS DO FOR RESURFACING BUT THAT HE LOOKED AT AND THAT A SURVEY BE TAKEN TO VERIFY THAT THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN BE IMPROVED WITH THE SUPER ELEVATION OR BANKING.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THERE IS A VIDEO AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE ABLE TO WATCH THIS TOGETHER.

IT IS A FIVE MINUTE VIDEO THAT GIVES AN OVERVIEW FROM FHWA.

IT IS ON THE HIGH FRICTION SURFACE.

[MUSIC] I CAN HEAR IT I CAN'T SEE IT.

MAYBE I NEED TO RELINQUISH MY SCREEN CONTROL.

>> MAYOR: SHE IS WORKING ON IT. >> SPEAKER: OKAY.

THERE WE GO. >> OVER 33,000 PEOPLE DIE AND ROUGHLY 2.4 MILLION MORE ARE INJURED IN MOTOR VEHICLE CRASHES EACH YEAR ON OUR NATION'S ROADWAYS DURING ROUGHLY HALF OF THOSE CRASHES OCCUR AT ROADWAY CURVES OR INTERSECTIONS. EXCESSIVE SPEED AND DRIVER INATTENTION OFTEN CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE FRICTION DEMAND IS HIGHER THAN WHAT CAN BE COUNTERED WITH STANDARD PAVEMENT SURFACES. RESULTING IN A LOSS OF CONTROL.

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UNLIKE RECONSTRUCTION, FHST CAN BE INSTALLED IMMEDIATELY ON WELL-MAINTAINED SURFACES. IT DOES NOT REQUIRE YEARS OF DELAYS FOR DESIGN, RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION, PERMITTING AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESSES OR RESULT IN LONG CONSTRUCTION RELATED COORIDOR IMPACTS. MOST INSTALLATIONS ARE COMPLETED IN JUST A FEW HOURS. THESE LOW COST LOCATION SPECIFIC TREATMENTS DRAMATICALLY REDUCE RISK FACTORS PROVIDING A COST-EFFECTIVE SOLUTION.

FHST UTILIZES A LIQUID POLYMER RESIN BINDER ONTO AGGREGATE IS PLACED OR SPRAYED. ONCE APPLIED, SURFACE FRICTION IS SIGNIFICANTLY ENHANCED WHEN COMPARED TO TRADITIONAL PAVEMENT TREATMENTS GOOD AS PAVEMENT FRICTION INCREASES, MOTORISTS ARE PROVIDED ADDITIONAL TIME TO ADJUST THE SPEED BACK WITHIN SAFE PARAMETERS.

FHST PROVIDES THIS ENHANCED SAFETY IN A MANNER USUALLY OBTAINED ONLY THROUGH EXPENSIVE AND DISRUPTIVE RECONSTRUCTION DESIGNED AT REDUCING FRICTION DEMANDS.

FHST IS A PROVEN SAFETY COUNTY MEASURE UTILIZED SINCE THE EARLY 1970S IN EUROPE, MEXICO, SOUTH AMERICA AND ASIA, THIS TECHNOLOGY IS NOW BEING AGGRESSIVELY APPLIED IN THE UNITED STATES RESULTING IN DRAMATIC CRASH REDUCTIONS.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, SPEED RELATED RISK FACTORS ARE REDUCED WITHOUT DEPENDING ON CHANGES IN DRIVING BEHAVIOR.

EACH YEAR MORE THAN 20 PERCENT OF ALL HIGHWAY FATALITIES OCCUR AT OR NEAR HORIZONTAL CURVES. INCREASING SURFACE FRICTION AT THESE CRITICAL LOCATIONS SAVES LIVES AND REDUCES CRASHES.

CRASH DATA COLLECTED TO DATE DEMONSTRATE SIGNIFICANT CRASH REDUCTION BENEFIT WITH THE INSTALLATION OF HIGH FRICTION SURFACES IN THE UNITED STATES AND AROUND THE WORLD.

IN MILWAUKEE, FOR EXAMPLE, FHST WAS INSTALLED ON A RAMP THAT WAS THE SITE OF 87 CRASHES IN JUST ONE YEAR.

IN OCTOBER 2011, FHST WAS INSTALLED.

SINCE THAT TIME, ONLY TO CRASHES HAVE OCCURRED.

IN OLDHAM COUNTY, KENTUCKY, THERE WAS A HORIZONTAL CURVES THAT RECORDED 53 WET AND THREE DRY CRASHES OVER A THREE YEAR PERIOD. AFTER TREATMENT THOSE STATISTICS DROPS TO FIVE WET AND 0 DRY CRASHES OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS. THERE ARE SIMILAR STORIES FOUND ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY. HIGH FRICTION SERVICING IS VALUABLE AS A NEW SPEED CRASH REDUCTION TOOL.

WHEN COMPARED TO EXPENSIVE AND TIME-CONSUMING GEOMETRIC FIXES, HIGH FRICTION SERVICING IS A LOW COST COUNTERMEASURE, HELPING TO REDUCE ROADWAY DEPARTURE CRASHES AND TO SAVE

LIVES. >>> THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION CAN HELP YOU LEARN MORE ABOUT HIGH FRICTION SURFACE TREATMENT INSTALLATION AND PAVEMENT FRICTION MANAGEMENT.

>> SPEAKER: THAT IS GOOD, THANK YOU.

THE REST OF THE VIDEO THERE WAS JUST CREDIT.

WE CAN SKIP THOSE. THE NEXT SLIDE.

I DON'T WANT TO SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON PAVEMENT MARKING RECOMMENDATIONS. WE DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR THE CITY TO IMPLEMENT. SEVERAL THINGS HAVE BEEN TRIED FOR. NOTEWORTHY AMONG THESE IS SIGNS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO BREAK AWAY SAFELY WHEN DRIVERS HIT THEM CAN JUST PASS ABOVE THE VEHICLE AND BECOME PROJECTILES THAT COULD INJURE VEHICLE OCCUPANTS OR DAMAGE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OR EVEN PERHAPS BECOME A HAZARD TO RESIDENTS.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE RECOMMEND.

I CAN ADDRESS MORE QUESTIONS ON THESE LATER IF ANYONE HAS THEM.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. FOR BOTH CURSOR RECOMMEND

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THE FIRST LIGHT IS ON THE MID-CURVE BUT NOT ON THE SOUTH END OF THE CURVE AND THAT'S WHY RECOMMEND A NEW LIGHT.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ON THE SOUTH CURVE, IF OTHER MEASURES ARE NOT AFFECT IT OR PRACTICAL, THINK OF THE SWISS CHEESE AGAIN AND ALL THE DIFFERENT PLACES WE TALK ABOUT SO FAR. THOSE ARE JUST THE ENGINEERING MEASURES. THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT CITIZENS AND POLICE CAN DO TO HELP.

I AM AN ENGINEER AND I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE ENGINEERING MEASURES. BUT, IF THOSE ARE NOT EFFECTIVE OR PRACTICAL WE REALLY RECOMMEND THE CITY CONSIDER ADDING A NORTHBOUND SHOULDER. THE REASON THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST THING TO CONSIDER IS THAT A SHOULDER WOULD GIVE DRIVERS EXTRA TIME TO RECOVER HERE YOU CAN SEE THE DITCH IN THE IMAGE AND WHEN TO GET OFF THE PAVEMENT IT IS A STEEP DITCH APPEARED WE REEVALUATED THIS VERSE IS THE STANDARD ENGINEERING GUIDANCE FOR DITCHES AND THE SLOPE OF THESE DITCHES IS SUCH THAT IT IS ON THE BORDERLINE OR OVER THE BORDERLINE IN TERMS OF IT BEING DIFFICULT FOR DRIVERS TO RECOVER CONTROL OF THEIR VEHICLE ONCE THEY HIT THE SLOPES. THAT CAN BE OKAY IF THERE IS A NICE LEVEL PIECE OF GROUND AFTER THAT THAT HAS A SLOPE AND IS HARD TO RECOVER FROM. WE DO HAVE THE UTILITY POLES THAT ARE WITHIN 10 FEET OF THE BOTTOM OF THAT SLOPE AND THEN WE HAVE THE FENCES BEHIND THAT. A SHOULDER WOULD ALLOW A DRIVER TO GET OUT OF THEIR LANE ACCIDENTALLY, NOTICE THE MISTAKE AND THEN CORRECT FOR IT.

WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY WORK WITH A UTILITY COMPANY IF POSSIBLE TO RELOCATE AND THAT CAN BE VERY EXPENSIVE AND TIME-CONSUMING FOR UTILITY POLES BUT IT CAN BE AN OPTION TO CONSIDER. IF THEY CAN'T BE RELOCATED, AT LEAST TO MARK THEM WITH REFLECTIVE TAPE AT NIGHT SO THAT AN ERRANT DRIVER WOULD BE ABLE TO AVOID THOSE POLES.

ONCE THE POLL IS STRUCK THE LESS CONTROL THE DRIVER HAS OF THE VEHICLE. MORE SO THAN THAT THAT CONSIDERATION BE GIVEN TO LEVELING THE DISHES, CREATING A FLAT RECOVERABLE SPACE FOR DRIVERS TO REGAIN CONTROL OF THEIR CARS IF POSSIBLE. AND THEN, IN COMBINATION WITH THOSE OPTIONS ATROPHIC BARRIER CAN BE CONSIDERED AT THIS LOCATION. I KNOW THAT MANY RESIDENTS HAVE HEARD A MESSAGE IN THE PAST THAT A BARRIER CANNOT BE CONSIDERED GREAT I THINK WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THE MESSAGE THAT HAS BEEN RECEIVED IS THAT THE BARRIER BY ITSELF IS DIFFICULT TO INSTALL RIGHT NOW FOR MANY DIFFERENT REASONS.

ON THE NEXT SIDE I CAN TALK ABOUT THE PROS AND CONS AND THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF BARRIERS. IF THE BARRIER IS USED, A DESIGN WOULD BE NEEDED AND DURING THIS STUDY WE COULD NOT GET IN THE SHORT TIME, THREE WEEKS THAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS IN ENOUGH DETAIL THAT WE COULD SAY THIS IS EXACTLY THE BARRIER THAT IS NEEDED, WHERE AN WHEN.

THERE ARE MANY FACTORS THAT GO INTO IT.

THERE IS A CONCRETE BARRIER THAT IS RIGID, VEHICLES BOUNCE OFF OF THAT AND IT WILL PRETTY MUCH USUALLY RETURN A VEHICLE INTO THE OPPOSING LANE. ALL BARRIERS ARE DESIGNED TO BE STRUCK AT A REALLY SHALLOW ANGLE WHERE THE CAR IS STRUCK AT THE SAME DIRECTION AS THE BARRIER.

IF YOU HAVE A RIGHT ANGLE COLLISION WITH THE BARRIER, THAT IS NOT GOOD FOR ANYONE. THOSE TEND TO BE VERY SEVERE COLLISIONS. THERE IS A CONCRETE BARRIER AND METAL BEAM SHOWN HERE AND THAT'S MORE FORGIVING AND ABSORB SOME OF THE IMPACT TO THE BARRIER TAKE SOME OF THE DAMAGE AND WILL REFLECT BACK AND REQUIRE SPACE BEHIND IT THAT IS LEVEL TO SAFELY CONTAIN THE VEHICLE AND IT'S OCCUPANTS.

AS WE SAID HERE, WE DO NOT HAVE LEVEL GROUND SO WE WOULD HOPE THAT BARRIER WOULDN'T DEFLECT TOO MUCH.

THERE IS ALSO HIGH TENSION CABLE BARRIER AND YOU COULD SEE THAT ON THE BIG FREEWAYS WHERE THERE IS A LARGE MEDIAN AND CABLES. TO MY KNOWLEDGE THAT IS THE ONLY TYPE OF PLACE WHERE THOSE ARE USED.

YOU NEVER KNOW. WE COULD LOOK INTO A DESIGN AND DECIDE THAT THOSE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

A REASON WHY THEY ARE NOT OFTEN USED ON ROADSIDE OF LOCAL ROADS IS THAT THEY REQUIRE A LARGE AMOUNT OF DEFLECTION TO WORK

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IF IT IS A SHORT SECTION OF BARRIER IT MIGHT NOT WORK PROPERLY. IT MIGHT BE A HAZARD AND PIECES COULD GO FLYING EVERYWHERE. THE NORTH CURVE, DRIVERS NEARBY, THERE IS A CHALLENGE AND WE NOTICED THE UTILITY POLES WERE QUITE AS CLOSE TO THAT NORTH CURVE.

WE DON'T RECOMMEND THE BARRIER BE RECOMMENDED AT THE NORTH CURVE BUT AT THE SOUTH CURVE IT IS AN OPTION FOR THE REASONS WE DISCUSSED AND THAT SOUTH CURVE THERE ARE DRIVEWAYS THAT GET IN THE WAY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

WE ARE ALMOST DONE. THERE ARE PROS AND CONS TO ANY TYPE OF BARRIER. THE PROS WILL PROTECT THE CAR OCCUPANTS FROM SLOPES AND POLLS.

IF THE SLOPES ARE SEVERE IF IT HITS THE POLL THAT'S A BAD OUTCOME. IT IS GOING TO SHIELD FENCES AND HOMES. NOT 100 PERCENT GUARANTEE, SOMEONE MENTIONED IN THERE LETTER, THE 110 MPH DRIVER AND UNFORTUNATELY THESE BARRIERS ARE NOT TESTED FOR THOSE KINDS OF EXCESSIVE SPEEDS AND IF THEY GET HIT AT A RIGHT ANGLE LIKE CAN HAPPEN AT PERHAPS THE NORTHERN CURVE WHERE THE CURVE IS SO SHARP AND THE ANGLE AT WHICH THE NICKEL STRIKES THE BARRIER IS ALMOST A RIGHT ANGLE THE BARRIER WHERE THERE.

BARRIERS REALLY AREN'T DESIGNED FOR THOSE TYPES OF IMPACTS.

BUT THEY WILL BE USEFUL IN PROTECT BEING IN A LOT OF CIRCUMSTANCES. THE DOWNSIDE OF THE BARRIER IS THAT THE BARRIER IT IS GOING TO BE CLOSER TO THE ROADWAY BY ANY GIVEN WAY TO INTERPRET IT. THE BARRIER WILL ALWAYS BE CLOSER TO THE ROAD THAN THE OBJECTS IT IS PROTECTING HEAR THE BARRIER WILL BE HIT MORE FREQUENTLY THAN ALL OF THOSE OBJECTS AND ALL THINGS BEING, HOPEFULLY WITH THOSE HIGH-SPEED TREATMENTS AND THE OTHER MEASURES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THOSE DEPARTURES WILL BE LESS FREQUENT.

THE BARRIER WILL BE HIT MORE FREQUENTLY.

IT MAY DIRECT CARS INTO OPPOSING TRAFFIC.

I SPOKE ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND I WALKED PAST YOUR HOMES AND YOUR BACKYARDS AND I SAW THE DAMAGE. I HAVE KIDS AND I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH.

THAT SOUNDS REALLY TOUGH. AS ENGINEERS WE ALSO NEED TO THINK ABOUT EMPATHY FOR EVERYONE ELSE WHO DRIVES DALROCK ROAD INCLUDING YOU ALL. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO RECOMMEND A DESIGN THAT THE CITY IT IS GOING TO GO THROUGH WITH THE DESIGN AND IT WILL BE CAREFULLY THOUGHT OUT AND WELL DESIGNED BECAUSE A BARRIER PLACED IN THE WRONG PLACE CAN HAVE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES.

IT CAN REDIRECT CARS INTO OPPOSING TRAFFIC AND THOSE CAN RESULT IN HEAD-ON COLLISIONS WHICH CAN BE VERY SERIOUS.

FORTUNATELY, WE HAVE SEEN NO FIDELITY'S IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS OR PRIOR TO THAT TO MY KNOWLEDGE ON DALROCK ROAD AT THESE LOCATIONS AND HOPEFULLY WE NEVER SEE ONE.

I DON'T INTEND TO SAY THAT ANYONE SHOULD WAIT FOR A FATALITY TO HAPPEN. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THOSE BARRIERS ARE DESIGNED FROM SHALLOW IMPACTS.

IT HAS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

THE BEST OUTCOME, IF A BARRIER IS NEEDED WOULD BE TO HAVE A SHOULDER SO THAT THERE CAN BE A RECOVERY AREA OUTSIDE THE TRAVEL LANE AND THEN HAVE THE BARRIER JUST BEHIND THAT SHOULDER. IF THE BARRIER IS PLACED FURTHER AWAY FROM THE SHOULDER THE DESIGN OF THE BARRIER REQUIRES THAT THE VEHICLE STILL BE MOSTLY IN CONTACT WITH THE PAVEMENT WHEN IT HITS THE BARRIER.

THEN THE BARRIER CAN OPERATE MOST EFFECTIVELY.

IF THE VEHICLE HAS ALREADY LEFT THE PAIN BEEN AND IS IN A DITCH OR LEVEL GRASS THE CAR WHEELS CAN SNAG ON SOIL OR UNEVEN SURFACES AND THEN THE VEHICLE STARTS TO ROLL, STARTS TO SPIN AND CAN FLIP OVER. THE BARRIERS ARE NOT GOOD AT CONTROLLING BARRIERS THAT ARE ROLLING OR FLIPPING OVER.

YOU DO NOT WANT THAT BARRIER TO BE AWAY FROM THE PAVEMENT.

EVEN THOUGH IT MAY SEEM A GOOD IDEA TO PUT IT AS FAR AWAY FROM THE ROAD AND FENCES AS POSSIBLE TO PROTECT THE FENCES . BY THE TIME YOU GET THAT FAR AWAY FROM THE ROADWAY, THE VEHICLE IS MORE LIKELY TO BE DOING SOMETHING COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTROL. NEXT SLIDE.

WITH THAT I WILL RETURN YOU TO THE THOUGHT ABOUT THE SWISS CHEESE ANALOGY GOOD HOPEFULLY YOU HAVEN'T FOUND TOO MANY HOLES IN MY PRESENTATION. IF YOU HAVE, WE ARE HERE TO LISTEN AND TAKE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU JOSH, FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

YOU KNOW, I HAVE NEVER PERSONALLY HEARD AN ENGINEER

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THAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF. >> SPEAKER: CERTAINLY, THANK

YOU. >> MAYOR: WE WILL START OFF WITH QUESTIONS. GO AHEAD, COUNCIL MEMBER

GRUBISICH. >> COUNCIL MEMBER GRUBISICH: THANK YOU FOR THAT VERY THOROUGH REPORT.

CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT THE HIGH FRICTION SURFACE TREATMENT LIKE, YOU SAID IN THE VIDEO IT IS INEXPENSIVE BUT A ROUGH IDEA OF COST AND THEN WHAT IS THE LIFETIME OF IT?

>> SPEAKER: GOOD QUESTION. A ROUGH IDEA ON COST IS PER DIRECTION PER CURVE WE WOULD ESTIMATE BETWEEN 10 AND $20,000 AND WITH TWO CURVES AND 2 DIRECTIONS THE MAXIMUM COST WOULD BE AROUND $60,000 OVERALL. IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT LESS.

MOST OF THE COST ESTIMATES FOR THAT ARE FROM TEXAS DOT WHICH MAKE IT A BIG PROJECT AND THEN THEY GO OUT AND DO 10 OR 20 CURVES AT A TIME. THEY MAKE IT AT SCALE.

AND THEN, THE LIFESPAN OF THAT ASSUMING THE PAVEMENT UNDERNEATH IS IN GOOD CONDITION, THE SURFACE TREATMENT ITSELF CAN LAST EIGHT TO 10 YEARS IS WHAT THEY

REPORT. >> MAYOR: CAN I FOLLOW UP ON

THAT QUESTION? >> SPEAKER: YES.

>> MAYOR: HOW FAST CAN THAT GET DONE? IS IT SOMETHING IN THE AREA WHERE TEXAS DOT DOES IT QUICKLY OR IS IT MONTHS AND MONTHS OF LEAD TIME ON THAT?

>> SPEAKER: WE HAVE PAVEMENT PROGRAM THAT WE ARE GOING TO BRING TO COUNSEL SOON. I AM GOING TO REACH OUT TO OUR VENDOR AND SEE IF THEY CAN MAKE IT PART OF THE SCOPE THAT WE HAVE FOR THE REHAB PROGRAM AND THEN WE CAN GET IT DONE VERY QUICK. I'M GOING TO DO MORE RESEARCH AND SEE WHAT VENDORS ARE AVAILABLE AND SEE WHAT THE

SCHEDULE IS. >> SPEAKER: AS THE VIDEO SHOWED THE INSTALLATION ITSELF DOESN'T TAKE MUCH LONGER IT IS JUST THE LOGISTICS IN GETTING THE CONTRACTOR ON BOARD IS THE MAIN

QUESTION. >> COUNCIL MEMBER: THAT SOUNDS LIKE A COOL PROJECT. MY OTHER QUESTION, THE DEGREE ON THE SOUTH CURVE, WHAT IS THE DEGREE OF THAT ANGLE?

>> SPEAKER: THAT SLOPE, I DON'T KNOW, IT LOOKS PRETTY FLAT TO ME. DID Y'ALL MEASURE ANGLES?

>> COUNCIL MEMBER GRUBISICH: THE REASON I ASKED THAT QUESTION IS YOU SAY WITH THE BARRIERS IT IS BETTER USE AT LESS THAN 25 DEGREE AND THERE WAS AN ANGLE ON THE CURVE AND I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHAT THE ANGLE WAS ON THE SOUTH CURVE.

> SPEAKER: GOOD QUESTION. OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD I DON'T HAVE THAT VALUE. BUT, THERE WITH THE ROADWAY CURVATURE, IT IS MILD ENOUGH AND SIMILAR.

THERE IS EXISTING GUARDRAIL FARTHER NORTH ON DALROCK ROAD ON A MILDER CURVE THAT IS NORTH OF THE NORTH WHEN THAT WE WERE STUDYING. AND, IT IS A SIMILAR DEGREE OF CURVATURE AS THE SOUTH CURVE. SO, I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE

APPROPRIATE THERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER GRUBISICH: I THINK I REMEMBER THAT. THE LAST TIME WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, THE DITCH ANGLE THERE IS SUCH, SO GREAT THAT IT WOULD BE REALLY HARD TO PUT A BARRIER ON THERE BUT ON THE SOUTH CURVE IS NOT QUITE AS, YOU COULD BUILD A SHOULDER ON IT OR YOU COULD GET THE BARRICADE ON THEIR WITHOUT HAVING SOME OF THOSE OTHER ISSUES.

THOSE ARE SOME OF MY INITIAL QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: COUNCIL MEMBER

MARGOLIS? >> COUNCIL MEMBER MARGOLIS: HAS THERE BEEN CONSIDERATION IN INSTALLING A CONCRETE WALL SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE IN HIGHWAY MEDIAN? THEY ARE NOT TOO TALL BUT JUST AS TALL AS A TRADITIONAL MEDIAN BUT THEY CAN TOLERATE A LOT MORE THAN A TRADITIONAL MEDIAN.

HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONSIDERATION THAT KIND OF

MEASURE? >> SPEAKER: THAT WOULD BE ONE OPTION. YOU KNOW, IN TEXAS WE CALL IT AN S-SHAPED BARRIER IN OTHER PLACES THEY CALL IT A JERSEY BARRIER. THE CONCRETE SHAPE COULD BE AT THE EDGE OF A SHOULDER. IT WOULD BE HIGHLY RECOMMENDED AGAINST THAT TYPE OF CONCRETE BARRIER BEING RIGHT UP AGAINST THE TRAVELING. THAT IS VERY LITTLE MARGIN FOR ERROR FOR DRIVERS. AND THEY STRIKE THAT BARRIER I WOULD ANTICIPATE THERE BEING A LOT OF HIT ON A CONCRETE

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YO HAVE A 12 FOOT LANE FOR NORTHBOUND CARS AND HOPEFULLY APPROXIMATELY A 10 FOOT SHOULDER AND A BARRIER AFTER THAT WHETHER IT BE CONCRETE OR THE METAL GUARDRAIL.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER MARGOLIS: THANK YOU FOR THAT IT WAS A THOUGHT BECAUSE AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THE TRADITIONAL GUARDRAIL MIGHT NOT HAVE STOPPED A CAR FROM GOING 100 MPH LIKE WE HAD THAT INCIDENT A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

THE CONCRETE BARRIER PROBABLY COULD OR MIGHT NOT, I DON'T KNOW. THAT WAS WHY I WAS BRINGING THAT UP. ALSO, REGARDING THE HIGH FRICTION SURFACE, THAT IS, IF I'M NOT WRONG, THAT IS TO KEEP CARS ON THE ROAD WHEN IT IS A WET SURFACE? WOULD YOU ALSO NOTICE A DIFFERENCE WITH A DRY SURFACE OUTSIDE IF IT WASN'T RAINING AT ALL? WOULD THAT ALSO PREVENT JUST LIKE THAT?

>> SPEAKER: YES. IT WOULD PROVIDE IMPROVED FRICTION IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE ALSO.

ANYTIME A DRIVER IS NOT ANTICIPATING THE CURVE THEY REALIZE IT TOO LATE, BREAK SUDDENLY AND THEN THEY NEED TIME WHILE THEY ARE BREAKING TO NOT LOSE CONTROL OF THE VEHICLE AND STEER IT AND KEEP IT ON THE ROAD.

IN A DRY CONDITION THAT WOULD ALSO OFFER AN IMPROVEMENT.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER MARGOLIS: THANK YOU.

IN A QUESTION FOR GARY, REGARDING THE STREETLIGHTS, I KNOW THOSE ARE NOT TOO BRIGHT AT NIGHT WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO LOOK AT REPLACING ALL OF THOSE LIGHTS WHICH I THINK THEIR ONLY TWO ON THE SOUTH CURVE AND MAYBE ONE ON THE NORTH CURVE THE BRIGHTER LEDS THAT CAN BRIGHTEN UP THE AREA A LITTLE BIT MORE AND MAKE IT MORE VISIBLE FOR DRIVERS AND NIGHT? IS THAT POSSIBLE?

>> SPEAKER: IT IS ABSOLUTELY POSSIBLE AND THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADD ANOTHER LIGHT LED AND ILLUMINATE THE CURVE.

THE LEDS ARE MUCH BRIGHTER THAN THE CURRENT LIGHTBULBS.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER MARGOLIS: THANK YOU FOR THAT.

>> SPEAKER: THAT IS A GREAT POINT.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER MARGOLIS: I THINK THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

>> MAYOR: COUNCIL WOMAN BROWN? >> COUNCIL WOMAN BROWN: I AM REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE NEW SURFACING.

NOT JUST THE COST BUT THE EFFECTIVENESS.

ESPECIALLY LOOKING AT THE STATISTICS THAT MOST OF THESE CRASHES OCCUR IN WET CONDITIONS.

AND, THAT IT ASSISTS DRIVERS TO KEEP CONTROL IN DRY CONDITIONS AS WELL. SO, I THINK THAT IS A NO-BRAINER THAT WE SHOULD DO THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

I WAS WONDERING ABOUT FLATTENING OUT THAT DITCH AREA AND THE DROP OFF AND WHAT THAT WOULD TAKE, COST WISE AND THEN ALSO LEAD TIMES AND THE TIMING TO GET THAT FLATTENED OUT.T SEEMS LIKE THOSE TWO THINGS WOULD BE THE QUICKEST THINGS WE COULD DO TO ADDRESS THE SAFETY ISSUE.

>> MAYOR: I'M GOING TO ADD ON TO THAT QUESTION BEFORE YOU ANSWER, GARY, I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHOLE CONCEPT OF ADDING THE SHOULDER, THE PAVED SHOULDER, FLATTENING OUT THE DITCH, IS THERE ENOUGH ROOM THERE? NOT JUST THE QUESTIONS THAT MARTHA HAD ASKED BUT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE ENGINEERING AND THE SPACING.

>> SPEAKER: I WILL START SOME OF THAT AND THEN JOSH CAN FOLLOW UP. SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE HAD, WE HAD A WATER LINE AND A SEWER LINE ON THE OUTSIDE CURVE.

WE WOULD HAVE TO INSTALL AN UNDERGROUND STORM DRAIN TO CONVEY THE WATER OUT OF THE AREA SO IT DOESN'T GO ONTO THE ROAD. THERE ARE A FEW CHALLENGES WE WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS IN ENGINEERING TO DESIGN THAT.

WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A MANHOLE IN THERE AS WELL THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO RAISE UP. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CHALLENGES I'M NOT SAYING IT'S IMPOSSIBLE BUT I DO NOT HAVE A COST FOR THAT BECAUSE IT IS SUCH AN EXTENSIVE ADDITION OF THE STORM DRAIN. IF YOU HAVE WATER, SEWER AND PARALLEL LINES AND YOU HAVE TO CONVEY STORM DRAINS AT 2000 FEET SO YOU HAVE TO CREATE A SLOPE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS CONFLICT WITH THE WATER SEWER LINE AT THE MOMENT. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DEFINITELY NEED FURTHER EVALUATION BUT IT IS POSSIBLE.

JOSH, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING?

>> SPEAKER: I AGREE WITH ALL OF THAT.

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POTENTIALLY A BARRIER AS WELL. >> MAYOR: WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SOUTH CURVE, THAT WAS THE WHOLE SELF CURVE CONVERSATION? DID YOU GET YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED? JUST TO SUMMARIZE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I GOT IT CLEAR.

YES IT IS POSSIBLE TO HAVE A SHOULDER IN A BARRIER ON THE SOUTH CURVE. WE GOT DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT COULD REALLY COMPLICATE THE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WITH AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT AND A COST STANDPOINT. DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY?

>> SPEAKER: YES MA'AM. >> SPEAKER: THAT'S CORRECT AND THAT'S THE GREAT THING ABOUT THE FHST.

>> MAYOR: IS IT TRUE, THE SHOULDER PART, THE BARRIER PART IN THE DRAINAGE ISSUE PART IS THAT TRUE BOTH NORTH BOUND AND SOUTH BOUND ON THE SOUTH CURVE OR IS THERE ONE DIRECTION THAT IS BETTER FROM A DRAINAGE STANDPOINT?

>> SPEAKER: I WILL SPEAK BRIEFLY FROM THE CRASHES.

OUT OF 16 CRASHES IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS ALL 16 OF THEM WERE IN THE NORTH DOWN DIRECTION. SO, IF IT HELPS, IT WOULD BE UNCONVENTIONAL TO HAVE A ROADWAY ON A SHOULDER AND NOT ON ONE SIDE OR ANOTHER BUT IF IT HELPS GET IT FASTER THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE THE SIDE OF THE ROAD TO PRIORITIZE IN TERMS OF WHETHER THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS AVAILABLE ON THE SOUTHBOUND SIDE. THERE AREN'T ANY FENCES, THOSE ARE THE FRONT YARDS OF THE HOMES AND I COULDN'T SPEAK TO

THAT QUESTION. >> MAYOR: I AM ASKING GARY FOR THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT JOSH BUT DO WE HAVE THOSE ISSUES ON BOTH THE NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND?

>> SPEAKER: YES MA'AM.HE NORTHBOUND DITCH IS DEEPER AND IT WOULD BE EASIER TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU HAVE A DEEPER AREA TO PUT IN A STORM DRAIN WHEREAS THE SOUTH CURVE IS SUCH A FLAT AREA AND IS ONE PLANE . WE WOULD HAVE TO CREATE THE SLOPE THROUGH LOWERING THE STORM DRAIN TO CONVEY THE WATER TO THE WEST. IT IS A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT

IN THE SOUTH. >> MAYOR: IS THIS A FOLLOW-UP

ON THIS? >> COUNCIL MEMBER MARGOLIS: TECHNICALLY, YES. AM I HEARING THAT A GUARDRAIL OR SOME KIND OF BARRIER IS NOT POSSIBLE UNLESS THE SHOULDER IS WIDENED? IS THAT WHAT I AM HEARING?

>> MAYOR: WHAT HE SAID IS THAT YOU SHOULD ALWAYS PUT A PAVED SHOULDER AND THEN A GUARDRAIL SO YOU HAVE TIME TO RECOVER BEFORE YOU HIT THE GUARDRAIL. IT IS ENOUGH SPACE WHICH SOUGHT

TO SOLVE THE DRAINAGE ISSUE. >> SPEAKER: IT IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. AT LEAST SOME MODIFICATION TO THAT DITCH WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SQUEEZE A GUARDRAIL IN.

IT WOULD BE TECHNICALLY POSSIBLE TO MODIFY THE SLOPES ON THE DITCH A LITTLE BIT, SQUEEZE THEM INTO BE A GUARDRAIL RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE EDGE OF THE PAVEMENT.

I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THAT IN THIS SITUATION BECAUSE, AS I SAID, THERE WILL BE DEFLECTION INTO THE OPPOSING LANES AND YOU NEED TO BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT THAT TYPE OF DESIGN.

IT IS POSSIBLE THAT MODIFICATION TO A DRAINAGE DITCH WOULD BE REQUIRED AND THE BETTER SCENARIO, BECAUSE, IF IT IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE ROADWAY IT IS GOING TO HIT THAT MUCH MORE FREQUENTLY THAN THE FENCES ALREADY DO.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER MARGOLIS: THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT.

>> SPEAKER: AS THE RESIDENCE NOTED, THERE HAS BEEN A CRASH WHERE A CAR HAS KNOCKED DOWN A FENCE AND BEFORE THEY COULD GET IT REPAIRED THEN ANOTHER CAR HAS HAD IT.

IMAGINE IF THE GUARDRAIL IS GETTING DAMAGED REGULARLY.

IF THE GUARDRAIL GETS HIT SEVERAL TIMES A YEAR IT WILL BE AN INOPERABLE GUARDRAIL AND THE NEXT VEHICLE WELCOME RIGHT THROUGH. WE WOULDN'T WANT THAT OUTCOME AS MUCH AS WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE A BARRIER IN THERE QUICKLY. IT WOULDN'T, I DON'T THINK, DO VERY MANY PEOPLE THAT MUCH GOOD IF THEY WERE GETTING DAMAGED SO MUCH, SO FREQUENTLY THAT IT WASN'T SERVING IT'S PURPOSE.

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>> COUNCIL MEMBER MARGOLIS: THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR: SAME TOPIC OR DIFFERENT >>> SO, GARY, TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, HOW LONG BEFORE WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT THE DRAINAGE ISSUES ARE AND WHAT THE POTENTIAL POSSIBILITIES OF FIXING THOSE ARE THE WE CAN DETERMINE IF WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH A SHOULDER AND A GUARDRAIL?

>> SPEAKER: I WOULD HAVE TO DO AN ENGINEERING REPORT WITH LEE AGAIN TO TAKE A DEEPER DIVE INTO IT TO SEE WHAT THE DIFFICULTY WOULD BE TOO PUT IN A STORM DRAIN AND . WITHOUT DOING A SURVEY I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW FAST IT CAN BE DONE.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE CAN DO ALL THE ELEMENTS THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING, THE HIGH FRICTION SERVICE, THE ALLOTTING AND SIGNING WE CAN DO THAT AUTOMATICALLY AND THEN ONCE I SPEAK TO THE LEAD ENGINEERING WITH THE DEEPER DIVE THAT IS RECOMMENDED I CAN COME BACK WITH A FOLLOW-UP AND TELL YOU

WHAT THE TIMEFRAME WOULD BE. >> MAYOR: I THINK I WAS ASKING AND I MIGHT'VE SAID IT WRONG BUT I WAS TRYING TO ASK THE TIMEFRAME TO GET THE STUDY DONE NOT TO GET THE PROJECT DONE.

SO THAT WE CAN MAKE DECISIONS AND SEE WHERE THE FUNDS CAN COME FROM, ETC. IS THAT A LONG STUDY?

>> SPEAKER: IT WOULDN'T BE A FULL STUDY TO DO THE ENGINEERING OF THE PRODUCT TO DO DETERMINATION OF WHAT THE PRODUCT WOULD BE. B-1 HOW LONG IS THAT ENGINEERING STUDY AND DESIGN? IS IT WEEKS, MONTHS, YEARS?

>> SPEAKER: IT WOULD BE MONTHS. IT WOULD BE NOT BE YEARS.

I THINK IT WOULD BE SIX MONTHS I CAN IMAGINE.

>> MAYOR: COUNCIL MEMBER GRUBISICH?

>> COUNCIL MEMBER GRUBISICH: WHEN I LOOK AT THOSE I LOOK AT WET PAVEMENT AND SPEED. LOVE THE IDEA OF THE HIGH SURFACE TREATMENT AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF THIS IS UP NORTH AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE UNDERNEATH IT IF IT IS ASPHALT WHICH TENDS TO BREAK MORE THAN CONCRETE AS A SIDE NOTE. MOST OF THAT TRAFFIC THAT GOES THROUGH THERE IS PASS-THROUGH TRAFFIC.

I DON'T THINK, THE CHIEF IS IN THE AUDIENCE AND HE CAN CORRECT ME ON THIS BUT I DON'T SEE A LOT OF EMERGENCY VEHICLES GOING UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD. THINK THEY GO UP THE MORE TRADITIONAL WAY, PRINCETON AND DOWN LIBERTY GROWTH.

TALK ME OUT OF WHY WE JUST WOULDN'T PUT SPEED BUMPS OR SOMETHING ELSE IN THERE TO SLOW THE SPEED DOWN? OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE DRUNK DRIVERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHO WILL GO THROUGH AND HIT THAT.

I STILL THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE THE BARRIER OPTION THAT WE CAN LOOK AT. TALK ME OUT OF WHY WE WOULDN'T WANT TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE TO SLOW THE TRAFFIC DOWN.

TO ME, THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE A MORE HEAVILY USED ROAD ESPECIALLY AS THEY CONTINUE TO BUILD HOMES IN THE DALLAS COUNTY PORTION OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT GOOD IF THOSE PLANS GO THROUGH, IT WILL BE MORE AND MORE OF A CUT THROUGH. IT SHOULDN'T EVEN BE A CUT THROUGH. WE HAVE ALREADY EXAMINED WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO TURN THAT INTO A FOUR-LANE ROAD AND IT'S NOT DOABLE WITHOUT PURCHASING A BUNCH OF LAND AND BUYING PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR HOMES.T'S NOT A FEASIBLE OPTION DEAR TO ME YOU HAVE TO DETER PEOPLE FROM USING THAT AS A CUT THROUGH TO GET THROUGH THAT BACK PART OF ROWLETT OR DALLAS COUNTY AND CONTINUE UP PRINCETON ROAD OR LIBERTY ROAD OR WHATEVER WAY THEY ARE GOING TO GO. AND QUIT USING THAT AS A CUT THROUGH BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE A TRAFFIC COUNT ON THERE BUT I GUARANTEE IF YOU DID THAT OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS YOUR TRAFFIC COUNT HAS GONE WAY UP WHICH IS WHY WE ARE SEEING AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENT.

AGAIN, TALK ME OUT OF WHY WE WOULDN'T PUT SOMETHING IN THERE THAT WOULD DECREASE SPEED AND DETER PEOPLE FROM USING THAT AS A CUT THROUGH TO WHERE THEY SHOULD BE GOING.

>> SPEAKER: IT'S A FAIR QUESTION AND A GOOD QUESTION.

IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.N TERMS OF THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES WE DID LOOK AND COMPARE WE DID TAKE TRAFFIC COUNTS AT THE SOUTHERN CURVE IT'S ABOUT 8000 VEHICLES PER DAY RIGHT NOW AND AT THE NORTHERN CURVE IT'S ABOUT 6000 VEHICLES PER DAY B1 COUPLE HUNDRED. BUT, THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES WE COMPARED WITH THE ACCOUNT THAT WE HAD FROM ABOUT 10 OR 11 YEARS AGO AND I THINK IT WAS 12 PERCENT HIGHER.

SOME OF THOSE VOLUMES WILL BE DOWN BECAUSE OF COVID.

HE BE NOT SO MUCH ANYMORE BUT THAT IS WHAT I CAN SAY ABOUT THE TRAFFIC VOLUME. THE INCREASE IN CRASHES MAY BE PARTIALLY ATTRIBUTABLE TO MORE TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH.

BUT, PROBABLY NOT ENTIRELY ATTRIBUTABLE TO THAT.

ABOUT THE SPEED BUMPS, WE DID CONSIDER LOOKING AT RUMBLE STRIPS. THOSE ARE PRETTY EFFECTIVE LIVE ON HIGH-SPEED ROADWAYS OR RURAL ROADWAYS AND GETTING DRIVERS

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I THINK MOST OF US HAVE EXPERIENCED THOSE.

PROBLEMS WITH THE RUMBLE STRIP IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA IS THE NOISE. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TO THE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE WRITTEN LETTERS BUT EVEN IF THEY WERE WELL INTO EXCHANGE THE NOISE IMPACT FOR THE REAL ANXIETY THEY HAVE ABOUT CRASHES AND CARS COMING IN THERE YARD.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER GRUBISICH: I'M NOT TALKING RUMBLE STRIPS I'M TALKING SPEED BUMPS. LIKE THOSE HUGE KNOBS THAT THEY PUT IN THERE WHERE IF YOU HIT IT IT'S GOING TO FLATTEN YOUR TIRE OR SEND YOU SOARING. I KNOW THAT HAS A TRAFFIC IMPACT AS WELL BUT AGAIN, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF NEWBIES DRIVING THIS IS THE SAME TRAFFIC AND ARE GOING TO GET USED TO THOSE BUMPS ARE EITHER GOING TO TAKE THEM OR FIND A NEW WAY TO GET THERE. THAT IS WHAT I AM ASKING.

IF THERE IS ANOTHER REASON AND THE REASON WHY I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TOLD THAT YOU DON'T WANT SPEED BUMPS IS BECAUSE IT DECREASES RESPONSE TIME WHICH I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH AND IT COULD DECREASE THE RESPONSE TIME TO THOSE AREAS BACK THEREBY A FEW SECONDS IF YOU HAD TO GET BACK IN THERE.

I DON'T THINK THAT IS A MAJOR ENOUGH THOROUGHFARE THROUGH THEIR THAT IT WOULD HAVE A HUGE IMPACT IN TERMS OF RESPONSE TIME. THAT HOUSE GOT HIT SEVEN TIMES IN 5 AND HALF YEARS. I AM SORRY, THAT IS OVER ONE TIME A YEAR THAT THEY'RE GETTING THERE FOR TAKEN OUT.

THAT IS WAY TOO MUCH. TO THEM IT IS AN EMERGENCY BECAUSE IF YOU CAN EXPECT THE BACK OF YOUR HOUSE IT IS GOING TO BE HIT ONCE A YEAR, HOLY SMOKES, THAT IT'S CRAZY.

WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. TO ME, SLOWING THEM DOWN IS GREAT. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BARRIER.

IF THE MAJOR LEADING CAUSE OF THIS IS SPEED, LET'S SLOW THEM DOWN. SORRY.

>> SPEAKER: IT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND THANK YOU FOR CLEARING CLARIFYING THAT POINT. WITH THE NORTH CURVE THE NEED TO SLOW DOWN TO 15 MPH, A SPEED BUMP LIVE AT ACHIEVING THAT DIRECTIVE. AS A DIFFERENT BETWEEN SPEED BUMPS AND SPEED HUMPS. THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT DESIGNS. THE BUMPS CAN BE QUITE NOISY AND THAT IS A DOWNSIDE TO THE BUMPS.

THE HUMPS ARE GOING TO SLOW TRAFFIC DOWN TO REALLY, 15 MPH OR SO. THAT IS THE TARGET SPEED OF THOSE. THEY ARE GOOD FOR RESIDENTIAL ROADS WHEN YOU HAVE A CUT THROUGH THE HEATING PROBLEM ON A RESIDENTIAL ROAD AND I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE RESIDENTS ALONG DALROCK ROAD THAT THE CURRENT SPEED OF 40 MPH IN THE CURRENT SPEED LIMIT, I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH ANY ROADWAYS THAT HAVE SPEED CONTROL LIKE SPEED HUMPS ON THEM TOO SLOW TO A 40 MPH ROAD DOWN TO 35 WHICH IS WHAT IS RECOMMENDED TO SAFELY TAKE THAT CURVE. I WOULD BE CONCERNED THAT IT WOULD BE A REALLY BIG ENFORCEMENT CHALLENGE AND MAY BE A MAINTENANCE CHALLENGE TO KEEP THOSE SPEED HUMPS ON A ROADWAY. IT WOULD TAKE CONSIDERATION OF REDUCING THE SPEED LIMIT ALONG THERE IN MY OPINION TO MAKE THAT WORK IN A 35 MPH CURVE. BUT, IT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

WE DID NOT GIVE THAT ANY SIGNIFICANT TIME OR EFFORT IN OUR PROCESS. THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

THAT IS ANOTHER SLICE OF SWISS CHEESE TO CONSIDER.

>> MAYOR: BRIAN WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING.

>> SPEAKER: IN TERMS OF DEGREE, OBVIOUSLY THE FASTER THE TRAFFIC, THE SPEED LIMITS THEN THE LESS LIKELY SOME TYPE OF SPEED CALMING DEVICES DON'T WORK AS WELL.

AT THE SPEED THAT IT IS CURRENTLY AT RIGHT NOW YOU ARE NOT RECOMMENDING TO REDUCE THE RUMBLE STRIPS COULD BE AN OPTION AT THAT SPEED? YOU ARE SAYING THOUGH THAT TRUTH BUMPS, AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER GRUBISICH IS MENTIONING THAT THAT IS NOT REALLY AN OPTION AT THAT SPEED? I KNOW WHERE THEY ARE BEHIND

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DO 25 OR 32 HIT THOSE THINGS. >> SPEAKER: RIGHT.

THERE ARE A COUPLE DIFFERENT TYPES OF RUMBLE STRIPS AND WHEN I WAS THINKING OF ARE THE LONGITUDINAL RUMBLE STRIPS.

THEY RUN PARALLEL TO THE LINES. IF IT IS SOMETHING LIKE IN THE TARGET PARKING LOT OR THE TRANSVERSE RUMBLE STRIPS THAT GO ACROSS THE LANE, KIND OF LIKE THAT THEY GIVE YOU THE RUMBLE SOUND AND CAUSES YOU TO SLOW DOWN.

THE RUMBLE STRIP WOULD GIVE YOU A LOT OF NOISE EVERY TIME A VEHICLE CROSSES IT, IT MIGHT BE MORE EFFECTIVE OF SLOWING THE VEHICLES DOWN IN THE DRIVER'S DOWN TO THE LONGITUDINAL RUMBLE STRIPS DON'T CONTROL SPEED AS MUCH WHEN YOU START TO MAKE THAT MISTAKE AND GET OUT OF YOUR LANE.

THEY WARN YOU THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO LEAVE YOUR LANE AND MAKE CORRECTIVE ACTION AND GET BACK IN THE LANE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER: THINK ABOUT THIS JOSH, THINK ABOUT TEMPORARY MEASURES UNTIL LONG TERM MEASURES CAN BE PUT IN PLACE. IF IT WILL TAKE 6 TO 9 MONTHS TO DO AN ENGINEERING STUDY TO FIX THE DRAINAGE SO WE CAN INSTALL THE GUARD RAIL IF WE HAVE GONE THIS FAR WITH IT, WHAT ARE THOSE MORE DRAMATIC THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO NOW THAT ONCE THEY ARE DONE WE COULD PULL THEM BACK UP?

>> MAYOR: I WOULD BE MORE WORRIED ABOUT PUTTING SPEED BUMPS IN AND THEN TAKING THEM OUT BUT THE RUMBLE STRIPS I CAN SEE. BY THAT TIME FRAME THE NEIGHBORS WOULD KNOW WHAT THAT SOUNDED LIKE AND MAYBE THEY

WOULD STAY THERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER MARGOLIS: I TALKED WITH SEVERAL OF THE NEIGHBORS THERE ABOUT SEVEN OF THEM AND ALL THOSE AFFECTED AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD ABSOLUTELY TAKE RUMBLE STRIPS OVER A SOUND ISSUE FOR THEIR SAFETY.

THEY SAID WE WOULD LOVE THAT. SO, NO ONE EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT RUMBLE STRIPS. I TOLD THEM IT WOULD BE LOUD

AND THEY SAID THEY DON'T CARE. >> MAYOR: I WOULD UNDERSTAND

THAT. >> COUNCIL MEMBER MARGOLIS: I THINK ULTIMATELY, THE BEST THING TO DO WOULD BE THE HIGH

FRICTION. >> MAYOR: YOU ARE CONCLUDING.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER MARGOLIS: THE RUMBLE STRIPS AND GUARDRAIL.

THOSE THREE THINGS WOULD BE THE BEST OPTIONS FOR US TO DO HERE.

>> MAYOR: COUNCIL MEMBER SHERRILL?

>> COUNCIL MEMBER SHERRILL: MATT WAS TALKING ABOUT SPEED BUMPS AND THEN SPEED HUMPS AND WHAT WE WERE REFERRING TO BEHIND TARGET, THOSE THINGS ARE DRASTIC.

YOU WILL STOP BEFORE YOU GO OVER THOSE.

WHAT ABOUT THE ONES THAT ARE ON, I THINK THE STREET IS CHIMNEY ROCK OR CHIMNEY SOMETHING IT RUNS BEHIND GOLDEN CHECK PARALLEL TO 66. THEY HAVE THE ONES THAT THEY PAINT THEM NICE AND YELLOW AND STRIPED AND YOU WILL SLOW DOWN OR THEY WILL PUT THE CONTENTS OF YOUR TRUCK UP INTO THE FRONT. AND, I WAS THINKING THOSE COULD SLOW PEOPLE DOWN EVEN IF THEY HIT THEM AT 40 MPH COULD THEY WON'T WRECK BUT THEY WON'T DO IT AGAIN.

>> SPEAKER: THE SPEED HUMPS HAVE A FLAT SURFACE.

YOU DO ELEVATE AND YOU HAVE A FLAT SURFACE ON THEM.

AND THEN YOU GO BACK DOWN THEY DO GET YOUR ATTENTION BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE EFFECT OF THESE NEEDS WHICH HAS A BIG PEAK TO

IT. >> SPEAKER: MY CONCERN THERE AND A LOT OF TIMES THOSE SPEED HUMPS ARE USED AT PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS FOR IN NEIGHBORHOODS WITH LOTS OF RESIDENTIAL DRIVEWAYS, PLACES WHERE YOU REALLY WANT TO GET PEOPLE DOWN TO 15 TO 20 MPH AND I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE SPEED HUMP DESIGN AT 30 MPH. RIGHT NOW THE DESIGN IS SAFE TO DRIVE AT 35 AND WE WISH PEOPLE WOULD TAKE THAT CURVE AT 35 AND OBVIOUSLY IN SOME CONDITIONS IN RAIN IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IF YOU HAVE A BIG TALL HEAVY TRUCK AND YOU KNOW YOUR TIRES AREN'T NEW YOU SLOW DOWN EVEN FURTHER TO BE SAFE.

THE MAJORITY OF TRAFFIC AND DRIVERS, IT WOULD SURPRISE THEM TO HAVE A CONDITION WHERE IT USED TO BE 40 MPH AND NOTE IT'S A SPEED HUMP TO SLOW DOWN TO 15 OR 20.

MY CONCERN IS THAT THERE COULD BE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT WOULD OCCUR WITH SLOWING DRIVER'S DOWN SLOWER THAN THE CURRENT CURVE REQUIRES THEM EVEN IF THERE ARE IMPORTANT

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>> MAYOR: I THANK YOU ANSWERED THAT COUNCIL MEMBER GRUBISICH.

COUNCIL MEMBER LANING? >> COUNCIL MEMBER LANING: WE HAVE GONE THROUGH A LITANY OF DIFFERENT ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE HAVE HEARD. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S MISSING IS REDUCING THE OVERALL SPEED ON DALROCK ROAD.

CAN SOMEONE TALK ABOUT THAT. >> MAYOR: ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

THE ENTIRE ROAD? >> COUNCIL MEMBER LANING: THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THAT PART OF DALROCK ROAD.

>> SPEAKER: WHEN THE SPEED IS SET YOU DO A TRAFFIC STUDY AND TAKE THE 85TH PERCENTILE. THEN YOU CAN ONLY LOWER THE SPEED TO THE FIVE MPH OR RAISE IT 5 MPH CONSIDERING THE CONDITION OF ACCIDENTS AND OBVIOUSLY AT THIS POINT DRIVEWAY ENTRY POINTS, SCHOOLS, THERE ARE OTHER CRITERIA'S.

JOSH, YOU CAN ADD TO THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

>> SPEAKER: FROM A REGULATORY STANDPOINT YOU ARE CORRECT ON THAT GARY. FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT YOU CAN PUT UP A LOWER SPEED LIMIT SIGN AND HAVE MOST PEOPLE COMPLY WITH IT GIVEN THE ROADWAY GEOMETRY AND UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T EXPECT THAT THAT WOULD YIELD TOO MUCH OF AN OUTCOME. WHAT WE SOMETIMES GET ONLY LOWER SPEED LIMITS IN PLACES WHERE THE AVERAGE LAYPERSON OR DRIVER THAT IS NOT TUNED INTO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING DOES NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE CRASH PROBLEM ALONG THAT THEY ARE JUST PASSING THROUGH. THEY WON'T SEE THE REASON FOR THAT I WOULD EXPECT THAT NONCOMPLIANCE WOULD INCREASE AND SOME PEOPLE WOULD SLOW DOWN BUT SOME PEOPLE WOULD KEEP DRIVING THE SAME SPEED THAT THEY ARE DRIVING EVEN IF WE LOWERED THE SPEED LIMIT SAY WITHOUT THE SPEED HUMPS OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT. TO PHYSICALLY CONSTRAIN THEM AND SLOW DOWN. AND, IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE WITH SPEED HUMPS AND TRYING TO BRING PEOPLE TO LOWER SPEED.

WHEN YOU COME OFF OF PRINCETON IT IS FOUR LANES AND THEY ARE ACCUSTOMED TO TRAVELING BACK 40 MPH.

TO BRING THEM DOWN WE COULD DO A NEW SPEED STUDY BUT WE HAVEN'T TAKEN NO STEPS TO DETERMINE IF THAT IS APPROPRIATE. THERE IS A PROCEDURE ON THAT STUDY AND THEY NEED TO BE UNDERTAKING.

I HOPE I ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER: I THANK YOU ARE RIGHT AT A SOUL SOLUTION YOU WANT PEOPLE TO COMPLY WITH THAT.

A LONG, COMBINED WITH A LOT OF OTHER ENHANCEMENTS I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN EFFECTIVE USE OF SPEED LIMIT CONTROL ESPECIALLY ON THE SOUTHERN CURVE, YOU ARE ALREADY ASKING FOLKS TO REDUCE THE SPEED TO 35. I WOULD THINK WE WOULD WANT TO DO THAT SPEED STUDY AND SEE IF IT WOULD BE AN EFFECTIVE TOOL IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OTHER ELEMENT.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER: TO BE CLEAR THE ADVISORY SPEED IS AN ENFORCEABLE BY POLICE. THE 40 MPH SPEED LIMIT IS SOMEONE THAT IS ENFORCEABLE AND THE LITTLE YELLOW PANEL SAYS SLOW DOWN TO 35 MPH AND THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE DRIVER GIVEN THE MOST COMMON PREVAILING CONDITIONS IN TERMS OF VEHICLE MIX AND PAVEMENT FRICTION IN DRIVER BEHAVIOR AND

THINGS LIKE THAT. >> MAYOR: I WISH YOU WOULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT OUT LOUD. BUT I UNDERSTAND.

DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE CAN I GO? ALL RIGHT MOST OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ASKED BUT I'VE A COUPLE MORE. THE FLASHINGS, YOU ARE GOING AT SUCH A SPEED LIMIT WAS THERE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO ADDING

THOSE? >> MAYOR: MAYOR, WE HAVE ALREADY ORDERED THE DIGITAL SIGNS.

WE STILL BELIEVE THERE IS A PLACE FOR IT.

>> MAYOR: I AM ASKING JOSH. I WANT TO KNOW RECOMMENDATIONS.

GO AHEAD. I WAS ASKING ABOUT RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE REPORT.

>> CO>> SPEAKER: WHAT HE ADDRESSED WAS WE CANNOT USE THE

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THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THEY DON'T HAVE VALUE.

>> MAYOR: I HAVE NEVER APPROACHED ONE OF THOSE SIGNS THAT SAY YOU ARE GOING X SPEED WITHOUT SLOWING DOWN.

THE TWO I HAVE, TOO. WE HAVE ONE AREA WHERE WE KNOW IT'S EFFECTIVE AND IT MIGHT HAVE HAD AN IMPACT ON THE NORTH SIDE.

WE HAVE PUT IN THOSE SIGNS THERE.

WE HAVE ORDERED TWO MORE OF THOSE SIGNS.

>> MAYOR: ONE FOR EACH DIRECTION?

WHAT DO YOU THINK, JOSH? >> SPEAKER: I THINK THEY ARE GREAT. THE ONES YOU HAVE ON THE NORTH CURVE, I THINK THEY PROBABLY DO HAVE A POSITIVE EFFECT.

WE ARE NOT ABLE TO MEASURE PRECISELY WHAT THAT EFFECT IS BUT THEY ARE GOOD FOR AWARENESS AND THEY PROBABLY DO HAVE A GOOD IMPACT. WE HADN'T CONSIDERED THEM AT THE SOUTHERN CURVE BECAUSE OR A SPEED DIRECTION OF 5 MPH VERSES 20 OR 25 MPH, USUALLY THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE AS MUCH ATTENTION TO BE DRAWN TO IT. IN THIS CASE, WITH ALL THESE CRASHES IN THE FENCES AND EVERYTHING, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY THEY WOULDN'T HELPFUL.

ESPECIALLY FOR UNFAMILIAR DRIVERS.

>> MAYOR: 100 MILES PER HOUR. >> SPEAKER: FOR SOME DRIVERS BUT FOR THOSE WHO ARE UNFAMILIAR IT COULD BE HELPFUL.

>> MAYOR: HOW LONG BEFORE THOSE CAN GET INSTALLED?

>> SPEAKER: THREE WEEKS. >> MAYOR: OKAY.

YOU TOUCHED ON THIS A LITTLE BIT.

I AM STILL SO PERPLEXED. WHY THE CRASHES HAVE INCREASED SO MUCH ON THE SOUTH CURVE.S THE PAVEMENT CONDITION WORSENED? WE PUT IMPROVEMENTS IN THERE AND CRASHES WHEN A. I DO NOT THINK THERE IS A DIRECT CORRELATION THERE. ANY IDEA?

IT HAS US SO PERPLEXED. >> SPEAKER: I WISH I COULD GIVE YOU A CLEAR ANSWER ON THAT. I CAN EXPLAIN WHY THE INCREASE.

>> MAYOR: WE SLOWED EVERYONE DOWN ON THE NORTH CURVE SO THEY SPEED UP ON THE SOUTH CURVE? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

>> SPEAKER: I WOULDN'T GUESS THAT THAT IS IT.

IT IS NOT UNCOMMON TO SEE THESE TYPES OF THINGS WHEN WE LOOK AT CRASH ANALYSIS IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS ACROSS THE METROPLEX.

YOU CAN HAVE ONE YEAR WHERE THE CRASHES SPIKE FOR NO REASON AND THEN THEY GO BACK DOWN TO THEIR NORMAL LEVELS.

I SAY THAT WITH A LOT OF CAUTION BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE MISINTERPRETED. THAT'S NOT WHAT I AM SAYING BUT IT IS THE LAWS OF STATISTICS THAT SOMETIMES THESE THINGS HAPPEN IN CLUSTERS. SO, I HOPE THAT IS ALL IT IS AND THERE'S NOT SOME OTHER UNDERLYING CAUSE . WE WERE NOT ABLE TO IDENTIFY ANYTHING THAT HAS CHANGED.

WE WEREN'T LOOKING AT THIS A YEAR AGO.

WE ONLY STARTED LOOKING AT THIS A YEAR AGO.

WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DEFINE ANYTHING THAT POINTS TO A CAUSE OR ANYTHING THAT HAS CHANGED IN THE LAST YEAR TO THE NEGATIVE.

>> MAYOR: THANK YOU. I PROBABLY WROTE THIS DOWN WRONG BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I CAN UNDERSTAND MY NOTE.

THANK YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE BARRIER IMPOSSIBLE OR NOT POSSIBLE IN THE NORTH CURVE BECAUSE YOU SAID THERE'S THE POLLS AND THEY ARE SET FURTHER BACK, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CORRELATION THERE IN REGARDS TO WHERE THE POLLS ARE SET BACK, ETC.. SO, CAN YOU GO OVER THAT AGAIN?

>> SPEAKER: GOOD QUESTION. THANK YOU.

AT THE NORTH CURVE MAYBE IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF THE SLIDE, WE CAN LOOK AT ONE OF THE FIRST FEW SLIDES THAT SHOWS THE AERIAL OF THE NORTH CURVE. THE POSITION OF THE POLLS THERE WE GO. WELL I SAY THAT AND THEN YOU CAN'T SEE THE TELEPHONE POLL MAYBE THE GREEN LABEL THAT SAYS DELINEATE HER 50 FOOT SPACING IN THE TOP GREEN ARROW POINTS TO ONE OF THOSE THERE IS A POLL IN THAT VICINITY.

YES, YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE AREA.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OTHER POLLS BUT THE POLLS DON'T SEEM TO BE IN A PATH WHERE AN ERRANT VEHICLE WOULD GO IF THEY WENT OFF THE CURVE ONTO A ROADWAY. THE CRASH REPORTS DIDN'T HAVE ANY INCIDENCES OF VEHICLES LEAVING THE ROADWAY AND

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THERE WE SAW THAT THE POLLS WERE AN OBSTACLE ON THE NON-TRAVERSABLE SLOPE WHERE DRIVERS DON'T HAVE CONTROLS OF THEIR CARS WHEN THEY LEAVE THE ROADWAY AND THE POLLS ARE THERE BEFORE THEY CAN REGAIN CONTROL. WITH THE BARRIER, I THINK I UNDERSTOOD THE SECOND HALF OF YOUR QUESTION, THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE BARRIER TO THOSE CURVES AND THE DRIVEWAY IS THAT, IT'S ON THE NORTH CURVE JUST ON THE SOUTHBOUND APPROACH, ON THE NORTH DOWNSIDE YOU CAN SEE YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF RESIDENTIAL DRIVEWAYS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE CURVE.

WHEN YOU ARE GOING TO PUT UP A BARRIER AND YOU EXPECT IT TO TAKE A VEHICLE HIT AND CONTROL THAT VEHICLE AND RING IT TO A STOP IT NEEDS TO BE LONG ENOUGH SO THAT ALL OF THE POSTS THAT GO INTO THE GROUND CAN WORK TOGETHER.

THE TWO POSTS RIGHT WHERE THE VEHICLE HITS, IF THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES THERE TO DO THE JOB THAN THE WHOLE THING WILL FALL OVER. IT NEEDS 10 OR 15 POSTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR THEM TO ALL WORK TOGETHER DO THE JOB.

WHEN YOU HAVE TO INTERRUPT GUARD RAIL WITH DRIVEWAY SO THAT RESIDENTS CAN HAVE ACCESS, YOU BUILT SOMETHING THAT ISN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO STRUCTURALLY WORK VERY WELL.

THAT IS AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION AND DESIGN.

I WAS POINTING OUT THAT AT THAT LOCATION THERE ARE DRIVEWAYS THAT HAVE A CHALLENGE TO PUT THE BARRIER IN AND STILL BE EFFECTIVE AND DO IT'S JOB PROPERLY.

WHEREAS, IN THE SOUTH CURVE ON THE NEXT SLIDE YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE AREN'T ANY DRIVEWAYS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CURVE OR ON THE NORTHBOUND SIDE. YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A BARRIER THAT IS AS LONG AS IT NEEDED TO BE TOO BE ABLE TO DO IT'S JOB AND CONTROL THE IMPACT OF THE ERRANT VEHICLE.

ON THE SOUTHBOUND SIDE THERE ARE DRIVEWAYS THERE BUT WE DIDN'T SEE ANY CRASH PROBLEM WITH SOUTHBOUND VEHICLES GOING OFF THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ROADWAY.

THAT IS NOT THE DIRECTION THAT THE CURVE WOULD NATURALLY NEED YOU TO DRIVE OFF THE ROADWAY AND YOU DROVE OFF THE CURVE AND YOU MISSED IT. IN FACT HE DIDN'T SEE ANY CELL DOWN DRIVERS OFF THE ROAD AT ALL COULD PRESUMABLY IF THEY DIDN'T EXPECT THE CURVE ON THE SOUTHBOUND DIRECTION AND THEY MISSED IT AND NOTICED IT BY THE TIME THEY CROSSED THE DOUBLE YELLOW AND FORTUNATELY WE DIDN'T HIT ANY NORTHBOUND DRIVERS BUT THEY WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE A COURSE CORRECTION AND CONTINUE ON THEIR WAY. WE SURMISE THAT FOR THAT REASON THERE WERE NO SOUTHBOUND CRASHES IN THE POLICE REPORTS.

>> MAYOR: THE REASON YOU WOULD MOVE THE POLLS AWAY FROM THE ROAD WOULD BE TOO PREVENT CRASHES INTO POLLS? PROVIDE SPACE FOR A SHOULDER AND GUARDRAIL?

WHAT IS THE MAIN REASON? >> SPEAKER: THE FIRST WIN YOU SAID. THEY ARE IN AN AREA WHERE THEY ARE CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE ROADWAY WHERE THEY ARE A HAZARD SOMEWHAT TO THE UTILITY POLES AT THAT DISTANCE ARE OFF THE SIDE OF THE ROADWAY AND THEY ARE VERY COMMON HERE, RIGHT? IT WAS A SUGGESTION TO CONSIDER THAT IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE PRACTICAL OR FEASIBLE. WE DIDN'T WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT BUT THEY ARE RELATIVELY CLOSE TO THE ROADWAY AND TO AN EXTENT THAT THEY COULD BE MOVED FURTHER BACK, THAT WOULD BE GOOD. IF THERE WERE A BARRIER IN FRONT OF THEM AND OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE NEEDED. IT IS A DESIGN QUESTION AND ONCE GARY SAID, THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT COULD GO INTO THE DESIGN, WATER, SEWER, DRAINAGE, ALL OF THAT.

THERE COULD BE A REASON TO MOVE SOME POLLS BECAUSE OF THAT DESIGN BECAUSE THEY DO NEED TO BE A FEW FEET BEHIND THE BARRIER. SO THAT THE BARRIER CAN DEFLECT WHEN IT IS HIT AND NOT HAVE YOU HIT THE POLL ANYWAY, SO TO

SPEAK. >> MAYOR: I HAVE ONE LESS QUESTION, SORRY GUYS, THIS IS ALL IMPORTANT STUFF FOR ALL OF US. YOU SHOWED ONE SLIDE AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO FIND IT BUT WHERE THE ROAD CONDITION WAS POOR, I THINK IT WAS A SOUTHBOUND CURVE IT WAS A CELL WOUND NORTH CURVE, NORTH BOUND CURVE DIRECTION, YOU ARE

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>> SPEAKER: YES THE PAVEMENT NEEDS TO BE SOLID STRUCTURALLY AND LEVEL FOR THAT SURFACE TREATMENT TO BE APPLIED.

>> MAYOR: WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT 60,004 HIGH FRICTION SURFACING THAT INCLUDES THE REPAIR OF THAT SECTION OF THE

ROAD, I ASSUME? >> SPEAKER: CORRECT IT DOES NOT

INCLUDE THE RECONSTRUCTION. >> MAYOR: GARY, ARE YOU

CONCERNED ABOUT THAT? >> SPEAKER: NO MAYOR, WE CAN CUT THAT OUT AND REPAVE IT WITH OTHER OBJECTS.I DON'T SEE A

PROBLEM WITH THAT. >> MAYOR: QUESTIONS?

MATT? >> COUNCIL MEMBER: THIS IS ALL GOOD STUFF AND THE BIGGER THING, I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER LANING SAID, THE LARGER THING IS HOW DO WE SLOW THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT COMES THROUGH HERE? ONE OF THE THINGS IN DOING THE SPEED LIMIT ANALYSIS IT WOULD BE INTERESTING IF YOU WOULD DO ANOTHER ANALYSIS BUT WHAT YOU JUST SAID THAT STRUCK ME IS THAT THE ACCIDENTS ARE GOING ON THAT SOUTH CURVE AND THEY ARE NORTHBOUND.

THAT'S BECAUSE THE RATE OF SPEED COMING OFF OF DEL ROCK IS EXTREMELY HIGH IT UNFORTUNATELY I TAKE THIS ROAD EVERY DAY AND YOU ARE GOING SO FAST THAT THE SPEED CARRIES YOU IN AND THE CURVE IS ON YOU BEFORE HAND WHICH IS WHY THAT IS ALL TAKING PLACE. WHEN WE GET THE SPEED LIMIT SIGNS AND PUT THEM CLOSE TO HERE THEY COME OFF OF DALROCK ROAD IT MIGHT BE THAT WE NEED SOME ENHANCED ENFORCEMENT DURING PEAK TIMES TWO MAKE PEOPLE AWARE THAT YOU BETTER SLOW DOWN OR YOU WILL GET A TICKET IS NOT A BAD WAY TO DO IT EITHER. ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO SLOW DOWN AND REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT COMES THROUGH HERE, THE NEXT ISSUE THAT WELCOME AROUND EVENTUALLY, THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE THAT USE THAT NOW, THE TRAFFIC STACKS UP WHEN YOU USE THAT SOUTHBOUND AND PEOPLE TRY TO TAKE A LEFT INTO PRINCETON AND DALROCK ROAD.

IT BACKS UP TO THE DAYCARE THERE AND ANOTHER HAS BEEN AN

INCREASE OF >> THERE WERE PEOPLE TRY TO GET OUT THEY GET OUT AND SPIN AROUND. EVEN THOUGH THERE MIGHT NOT BE AS BIG OF AN ISSUE, ANOTHER THING THAT I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER AS WE LOOK AT THIS ON THE NORTHBOUND CURVE, YOU ARE ALREADY ASKING THEM TO SLOW DOWN TO 15 MPH.

TO BE THAT IS A GOOD PLACE TO PUT A SPEED HUMP.

NOT A BUMP BUT A HUMP. IT WILL DETER PEOPLE TO GO THE OTHER WAY COULD WE REALLY HAVE TO DECREASE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC. A 12 PERCENT INCREASE IS HUGE HEAR THEIR'S MORE HOMES BEING BUILT THAT WAY.

THE MORE WE GET PEOPLE WANTING TO COME IN THERE THE NUMBERS WILL GO UP AND WE HAVE TO PUT IN THOSE TO TERRENCE.

IN MY OPINION WE NEED TO DO THAT AND DO THE FURTHER AND ANALYSIS AND I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT.

>> MAYOR: I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO TOO MUCH.

I THINK WE HAVE TO THROW EVERYTHING AT THIS THAT WE CAN INCLUDING THE KITCHEN SINK. I HATE TO SAY THAT BUT I THINK

WE HAVE TO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER: LET ME SAY THESE TWO THINGS. WHEN I TRIED NORTHBOUND ON DALROCK ROAD AND YOU GO AROUND THAT CURVE, YOU MIGHT UNDERSTAND THIS AND YOU MIGHT NOT WHAT IT FEELS LIKE IT IS SLICK. IT FEELS LIKE YOUR VEHICLE IS ABOUT TO LOSE TRACTION. I CAN'T EXPLAIN IT ANY MORE THAN THAT BUT IT FEELS THAT WAY.

I THINK THE PAVEMENT THE FRICTION STUFF WOULD WORK GOOD.

THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST IS WHEN YOU COME NORTH ON DALROCK ROAD, THEY GOT THAT WHAT I CALL AN EXIT LANE WHERE YOU KEEP ON GOING STRAIGHT THROUGH THIRD WHAT IF YOU SHUT THAT OFF AND MADE PEOPLE GO THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION AND TURN RIGHT. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THERE AT 40 OR 50 MPH THE GOING TO HAVE TO STOP FIRST.

AND IT MIGHT EVEN DETER PEOPLE FROM GOING THAT WAY.

>> SPEAKER: IT COULD HAVE A POSITIVE EFFECT, YES, ON THE

SPEED. >> MAYOR: THAT'S MY SUGGESTION.

I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS GARY OR JOSH THIS BOOK JUST THEN.

>> SPEAKER: IT WAS ME, JOSH. I SAID THAT COULD HAVE A POSITIVE EFFECT ON REDUCING SPEEDS BY SLOWING THEM DOWN.

INSTEAD OF IT BEING A STREET MOVEMENT FROM DALROCK ROAD TO DALROCK ROAD WHERE PRINCETON SPLITS OFF, IF PRINCETON IS JUST THE LEFT-HAND CURVE, IF EVERYBODY HAD TO SLOW DOWN A

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>> MAYOR: THAT SOUNDS DANGEROUS.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER: A TRAFFIC LIGHT MIGHT BE GOOD THERE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER: A TRAFFIC LIGHT WOULD HELP PEOPLE GET THROUGH.NOWADAYS IF YOU GO THROUGH THEIR PEOPLE ARE CUTTING ACROSS AND THEY WOULD ALMOST CUT OVER YOU TO GET IT TO GET TO THE OTHER SIDE. A TRAFFIC LIGHT WOULD SLOW EVERYBODY DOWN. I KNOW AT ONE TIME, I CALLED IT AN EXIT LANE WHATEVER IT IS THAT GOES STRAIGHT FROM DALROCK ROAD TO DALROCK ROAD WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THEY HAD WORK GOING ON THERE. TO GET TO THAT YOU DID HAVE TO GET TO THE INTERSECTION AND YES, IT DOES SLOW YOU DOWN.

I JUST DON'T GO OVER DALROCK ROAD ANYMORE I GO PRINCETON.

AND MAYBE WE DO A TRAFFIC STUDY AND DO THAT INTERSECTION.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER: ABSOLUTELY. >> MAYOR: I THINK WE NEED TO WRAP THIS UP WE ARE WAY OVER TIME BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT. SO, WE HAVE DIRECTION YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? WHAT DO YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM US OR WHAT DO YOU WANT TO TELL THE PUBLIC?

>> SPEAKER: I DO NOT HAVE QUESTIONS I HAVE A CLEAR DIRECTION ON WHAT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

I NEED TO MOVE WITH THE TIMEFRAME AND WE DID RESEARCH ON BENDERS AND I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH AN EMAIL AND WE WOULD HAVE A TIMEFRAME FROM THAT. ALL THE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT WERE SUGGESTED WE CAN START ON THAT TOMORROW.

AS THEY MENTION, AS SOON AS THE VARIABLE SPEED SIGNS COME IN WE

CAN INSTALL THOSE AS WELL. >> MAYOR: BRIAN?

>> COUNCIL MEMBER: I THINK THERE ARE PHASES APPEARED THERE ARE TEMPORARY THINGS WE COULD DO FOR EXAMPLE WE ALREADY ORDERED THE DIGITAL SIGNS. I ACTUALLY LIKE WHAT BROWNIE SAID. THAT COULD BE A TEMPORARY MEASURE WHERE WE EVEN CLOSE IT DOWN EVEN TEMPORARILY NOT PERMANENTLY FORCING PEOPLE TO SLOW DOWN AND TAKE THAT RIGHT TURN AS OPPOSED TO THE EXPENSE, FOR EXAMPLE OF A NEW RED LIGHT WHICH WOULD THEN HAVE TO BE ENGINEERED.

I THINK THOSE ARE POSSIBILITIES.

THE SIGNAGE ISSUE ON THE SECOND ONE I'VE BEEN TALKING TO THE CHIEF ABOUT IS ENFORCEMENT. AGGRESSIVE ENFORCEMENT OUT THERE. IT IS DIFFICULT.

I WILL TELL YOU. IT IS DIFFICULT FOR OUR OFFICERS TO STAGE OUT THERE, TOO BE ABLE TO DO THAT BUT THERE ARE SOME PLACES THAT THEY HAVE FOUND THAT THEY COULD DO IT AND THAT'S ANOTHER THING. AND THEN IN TERMS OF FACING THIS IS WHERE GARY GOES TO WORK AND GETS SOME QUOTES ON THE HIGH FRICTION SURFACE AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS WE TALKED ABOUT AND THEN WE COME BACK TO COUNSEL WITH THOSE COSTS AS WELL INCLUDING THE COST OF A BARRICADE AND A RECOMMENDED SOLUTION FROM THE ENGINEER.

THE ONE THING I WANTED SAY WE MISS AN OPPORTUNITY EARLIER BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. ON A PAVED SURFACE IN TEXAS YOU CANNOT JUST DO THINGS WILLY-NILLY.

YOU CANNOT THROW SCIENCE ASIDE AND DO WHATEVER THE HECK YOU WANT TO DO. THIS IS WHY, I REALIZE THERE ARE PEOPLE WATCHING THIS AND THEY SAY WHY DOES THE SKY SAY THAT, DOESN'T HE UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS? I APPRECIATE, JOSH, YOUR EMPATHY IN THIS CONVERSATION AS WELL. THIS IS IMPORTANT TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING OUT THERE IN THAT ARE HAVING THESE INCIDENTS AND VEHICLES COMING THROUGH THEIR YARD.

WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THERE IS A SCIENCE BEHIND IT.

I THINK THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE COULD DO QUICKLY.

THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE WILL DO IN INTERMEDIATE AND LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS THAT I AM CONVINCED ARE THERE AND WE WILL BRING A PLAN BACK TO COUNSEL AND GET YOUR APPROVAL ON THE MORE EXPENSIVE OPTIONS. THE LESS EXPENSIVE OPTIONS WE CAN MOVE FORWARD INTO THOSE IMMEDIATELY.

>> MAYOR: CAN WE ALSO COMMIT WE WILL GET A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE AND THAT WE WILL GET AN ENGINEERING DESIGN DONE FOR A SHOULDER BARRIER? I THINK WE HAVE TO DO BOTH OF

THOSE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER: IT'S A PARALLEL TRACK. HE WON'T BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU GOOD INFORMATION WITHOUT HAVING THAT.

>> MAYOR: I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU THAT WE CAN DO BOTH OF THOSE THINGS IN ADDITION TO THE QUICK AND INTERIM MEASURES.

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DOES EVERYONE AGREE WITH THAT? >> COUNCIL MEMBER: YES.

>> MAYOR: WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS A VERY SUMMARIZED MEMO FROM YOU, BRIAN, OR SOMEONE ON YOUR STAFF AFTER THE REVIEW THAT YOU SEND TO COUNSEL THAT WE CAN SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC SO THE CITY UNDERSTANDS WHAT STEPS WE ARE ARE AKING?

>> SPEAKER: ALL RIGHT. >> MAYOR: DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU MAYOR AND

COUNCIL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER: THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR: ALL RIGHT. BRIAN, DO YOU WANT ME TO DO THE

STORM EVENTS, FIRST? >> COUNCIL MEMBER: MAYOR, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS RIGHT AT ABOUT SEVEN.

SO, NEITHER OF THESE MEETINGS ARE SO URGENT THAT WE HAVE TO SOLVE FOR THEM TODAY. IN TERMS OF THE WINTER STORM, I THINK THERE ARE SOME BUDGETARY SOLUTIONS THAT WE WILL KNOW IN ABOUT THREE WEEKS. IF WE RUN OUT OF TIME TONIGHT THAT COULD BE AN ITEM WE COULD BUMP.

I WOULD RATHER NOT DUMP THE COVID STUFF SO WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE WITH UPCOMING EVENTS.

I WOULD PREFER THAT WE DO THE COVID ITEM TONIGHT AND IF WE RUN SHORT OF TIME THAT YOU SCHEDULE THE WINTER STORM

UPDATE. >> MAYOR: OKAY, WE CAN DO ITEM

[3C. Discuss COVID 19 and take any necessary action. (20 minutes)]

>> SPEAKER: GOOD EVENING COUNSEL.

LAURA, IF YOU WILL PULL UP THE PRESENTATION? SO, TONIGHT WE WILL PROVIDE OUR MONTHLY COVID UPDATE.

PER STATUS AND I WAS VERY HAPPY TO SEE THIS.

DALLAS COUNTY HAS MOVED TO THE ORANGE RISK LEVEL WHICH IS EXTREME CAUTION. FOR THE FIRST TIME WE'VE MOVED OUT OF THE RED. WEEKLY CONFIRMED PROBABLE CASES HIT AN ALL-TIME HIGH THE WEEK OF JANUARY NIGHT.

FOR THE WEEK OF APRIL 10 WHICH IS THE MOST RECENT DATA THAT DALLAS COUNTY HAS LISTED WEEKLY CONFIRMED AND PROBABLE CASES WERE AT 1556. THAT IS OVER A SEVEN DAY PERIOD. CASES ARE CONTINUING TO TREND DOWNWARD HERE YOU CAN SEE THERE A SMALL CHART THAT SHOWS THE CASES SINCE MARCH 23 OF 2020. THAT'S ALL THE WAY UNTIL APRIL 19 OF 2021. SPECIFIC TO ROWLETT, TEXAS DATED AS OF APRIL 19. VACCINATION UPDATES.

DALLAS HAS PUT GREAT NEW INTERACTIVE FEATURES, DALLAS COUNTY ON THEIR WEBSITE. THIS CHART COMES DIRECTLY FROM THE AND SHOWS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF VACCINATIONS, VACCINATIONS BY AGE AND TOTAL NUMBER OF FOLKS VACCINATED OVER THE AGE OF 75, VACCINATIONS BY RACE AND YOU CAN GO RIGHT INTO THE ZIP CODES AND SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VACCINATED.

I'VE ALSO INCLUDED GARLAND HOUSE INFORMATION AS OF APRIL 18. THIS INFORMATION COMES DIRECTLY FROM OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICE AND THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS FOR GARLAND HEALTH AS WELL.

UPCOMING EVENTS. WE WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT NOW WITH UPCOMING EVENTS IN THE OPENING PLAN THAT WE DISCUSSED AT OUR LAST MEETING TO MAKE SURE WE ARE STILL ON TRACK.

CASES DO CONTINUE TO DECREASE. SO, THIS IS OUR EVENT LAYOUT FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS. WE DID AS PROMISED DISCUSSED MAY, JUNE, JULY EVENTS. THIS WEEKEND WE HAVE KID FISH AND CARDBOARD REGATTA COMING UP AND WE ARE TAKING SOME INTO CONSIDERING SAFETY PROTOCOLS, HOW CAN WE PEOPLE SPREAD OUT BUT STILL BE ABLE TO HAVE FAMILY EVENT? THE MAY EVENTS, GREAT NEWS.E WILL START THE FARMERS MARKET MAY 15. THAT WILL BE IN THE VILLAGE OF ROWLETT DOWNTOWN AND BE FROM 9:00 TO 12:00.EACH SATURDAY MORNING FROM MAY 15 UNTIL THE END OF AUGUST COULD THEN WE WILL DO OUR MEMORIAL DAY CEREMONY BUT WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT WHEN PVIRTUAL.

THAT WILL BE OUR LAST VIRTUAL EVENT.

IN JUNE, WE WILL CONTINUE THE FARMERS MARKETS AND WE ARE SCHEDULED TO HOST ROCKS AND BRUCE AT CENTRAL BARK DOG PARK.

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FINGERS CROSSED THAT WE HOST AN EVENT DOWN IN THE ZONE AT THE GROVE PARK WITH FIREWORKS, CONCERTS AND ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES THAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST.

AND THEN IN AUGUST WE WILL CONTINUE FARMERS MARKET AND THEN THE CONCERTS ON THE LAWN WE WILL BE BACK DOWNTOWN AT VILLAGE OF ROWLETT. FROM 7:00 TO 9:00 TYPICALLY ON FRIDAY NIGHT AND PARKS AND RECREATION CONSIDERING THE BANDS NOW. MORE DETAILS ON THOSE.

GIVE YOU A SNAPSHOT ON SUMMER EVENTS CONSIDERING THE CONTINUED DECREASE IN CASES. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THESE ARE THE RULES THAT WE ROLLED OUT AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING IN MAY. ONE, WE WILL CONTINUE TO REQUIRE MASKS AT CITY FACILITIES.

WE WILL WORK TOWARDS HAVING ALL OF OUR STAFF RETURN TO WORK AND HOUSE. PARKS AND RECREATION IS CONDUCTING PROGRAMS AS OF APRIL 1. THERE STILL SOME CAPACITY ISSUES AS WE TRIED TO KEEP PEOPLE A LITTLE SEPARATED BUT THEY BROUGHT A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS ONLINE AND PRACTICE A LITTLE OF THAT SOCIAL DISTANCING AND PROTECT OUR PATRONS WHERE WE CAN. WE WILL ALSO INCLUDE IN MAY THE FACILITY RESERVATIONS BRING THOSE BACK ON LINE AT 50 PERCENT AND BRINGING OUR OUTDOOR FACILITY RESERVATIONS BRING THE PAVILIONS FROM 50 PERCENT TO 75 PERCENT.

WE ARE SLATED TO OPEN MAY 15 ON WEEKENDS AND OPEN IN MAY AT 75 PERCENT. THE LIBRARY WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ALLOWED IN THE LIBRARY WE WILL BUMP THAT UP TO 150. WE WILL HAVE SELFCHECKOUT STATIONS BACK OUT HERE THEY WILL PUT BACK OUT THE PUBLIC ACCESS CATALOG AND I BELIEVE THEY CURRENTLY HAVE FOUR COMPUTERS AND THEY WILL JUMP THAT UP FROM 4 TO 8.

THEY WILL OPEN THEIR STUDY ROOM THEY WILL PUT BACK OUT SOME OF THE FURNITURE SOCIALLY DISTANT AND BEGIN PROGRAMMING AS WELL.

THAT'S BASED ON THE SOCIAL DISTANCING PROTOCOLS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THESE WERE THE PROPOSALS WE MADE FROM JUNE. ACTUALLY, THE MASKS WILL NOT BE REQUIRED. I DID NOT UPDATE THAT.

WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION BEGINNING JUNE ONE MASKS WILL NOT BE REQUIRED IS WHAT WE PREDICT AT FACILITIES.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO DISCUSS THE PLAN OR THE RETURN OF COUNSEL AND BOARD AND COMMISSION MEETINGS TO IN PERSON.

THE ROWLETT FACILITY WILL OPEN JUNE 1. WE WILL OPEN THE DOORS TO REGULAR BUSINESS WE ARE PROPOSING TO OFFER BASKETBALL AND VOLLEYBALL DURING THE SUMMER BUT THEY ARE COMING UP WITH SOME PRETTY STRICT GUIDELINES TO HELP WITH THE MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING.

THOSE ARE VERY PARTICIPATED IN SPORTS AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN STILL SAFELY MOVE PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THE BUILDING HAD INDOOR FACILITIES WILL MOVE TO 75 OUTDOOR FACILITY RESERVATIONS TO 100 AND RESUME NORMAL PROGRAMMING AND EVENTS FOR ALL AGES. THE LIBRARY WILL OPEN AT 100 PERCENT. WE WILL PUT OUT ALL THE FURNITURE IN THE LIBRARY AND BEGAN HOSTING THERE IN PERSON PROGRAMMING LIKE THE SUMMER READING PROGRAM.

THE WET ZONE IS SLATED TO OPEN AS NORMAL JUNE 7. WE WILL HAVE SWIM LESSONS. WE WILL ALLOW PRIVATE PARTIES.

AND, FOR THE TIME BEING WE ARE GOING TO FOCUS ON PREPACKAGED FOOD ITEMS AS PROPOSED TO REGULAR FOOD ITEMS. I THINK IT SAYS I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR WE CAN

DISCUSS ANY OF THOSE ITEMS. >> MAYOR: ANGIE, ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT, IF THERE IS A PARTICULAR ORDER OF COMMISSION THAT WOULD LIKE TO MEET IN PERSON IN MAY AND ALL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND COMMISSION ARE OKAY WITH THAT AND THE PROTOCOLS ARE FOLLOWED, I DON'T SEE WHY WE WOULD HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL JUNE TO MEET IN PERSON FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. AND, ACTUALLY, AFTER TALKING TO LAURA ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT TODAY, IF THERE ARE A FEW MEMBERS THAT STILL WANT TO MEET REMOTE IT IS POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD DO THE HYBRID MEETING WITHOUT IT SUPPORT.

JUST THROUGH HAVING A ZOOM SET UP.

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I'M NOT SURE I CONCUR THAT WE HAVE TO SAY NO IN PERSON BOARD AND COMMISSION MEETINGS IN MAY. THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT.

WHITNEY SAYS HE AGREES HE JUST DIDN'T SAY IT IN THE

MICROPHONE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER: A QUESTION ABOUT FOURTH OF JULY DO YOU THINK IT WILL BE A NORMAL FOURTH OF JULY OR DO YOU THINK IT WILL BE A SCALED-DOWN

VERSION OF FOURTH OF JULY? >> MAYOR: NORMAL.

>> SPEAKER: WE ARE SHOOTING FOR NORMAL.

WE MAY CHANGE SOME OF THE EVENTS AROUND SO THAT IN THE CHILDREN'S AREA WE MIGHT NOT HAVE BOUNCE HOUSES BUT WE WILL HAVE CHILDREN'S ACTIVITIES THAT MAY BE PROVIDED FOR SINGLE USE OR ONE THAT COMES TO MIND THAT WE HAVE A LOT, ALMOST EVERY YEAR IS A VELCRO SOCCER GAME WHERE IT IS A SOCCER BALL THAT IS HOOKED AND IN OPPOSED TO ABOUT THE HOUSE WHERE WE HAVE A DOZEN SMALL CHILDREN IN A TIGHT AREA AND A FEATURE THAT IS HARDER TO CLEAN. BUT, VENDORS, FOOD TRUCKS AND PARKS AND RECREATION LOOKING AT THE LAYOUT TO SEE HOW WE MIGHT SET THAT UP A LITTLE DIFFERENT. SO THAT THERE IS MORE ROOM IN A TIGHT SPACE. WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL OF THOSE

ITEMS TO SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER: THE FOLLOW-UP, I DON'T THINK WE SPENT LAST YEAR'S FIREWORK BUDGET DO YOU THINK THIS YEAR WILL BE THE BIGGEST ONE IN DFW? IS THAT WHERE YOU ARE GOING WITH THAT?

[LAUGHTER] >> SPEAKER: I WOULDN'T GO THAT FAR. WE DID PAY A DEPOSIT BUT WE WE'RE ABLE TO, FOR THE MOST PART, ROLL THAT OVER THERE THERE WILL BE A SMALL UP CHARGE BASED ON THE COST OF FIREWORKS BUT I CAN DEFINITELY TALK TO THE PARKS AND DIRECTOR AND SEE

WHAT I CAN DO. >> MAYOR: THAT'S FUNNY.

I AM SO EXCITED WERE DOING FARMERS MAKE MARKET.

THAT IS VERY EXCITING. >> THE PARKS AND RECREATION TEAM REALLY STEPPED UP ON THE ON.

KUDOS FOR THEM AND THEIR HARD WORK TO MAKE THAT WORK.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES DIVISION FOR HELPING US WITH THE CONTACTS AND SUCH TO MAKE SURE WE COULD MOVE WITH THAT.

>> MAYOR: THAT IS A BIG DEAL. KUDOS.

LUNCH ON THE LAWN WAS HIGHLY REGARDED.

A WONDERFUL EVENT. PEOPLE ARE CLAMORING CAN YOU COME BACK IN THE FALL SO WARNING, WARNING.

I THINK EVERYONE IS STARVED FOR THOSE EVENTS AND IT WAS A VERY NICE ENVIRONMENT IN A VERY SAFE ENVIRONMENT.

A COMMENT IS IT A DIFFERENT TOPIC OR SAME TOPIC?

GO AHEAD MARTHA. >> COUNCIL MEMBER: THIS IS JUST A FOLLOW-UP FOR THE FOURTH OF JULY DO WE HAVE A HEADLINER FOR

ENTERTAINMENT YET? >> SPEAKER: WE SECURED THE HEADLINER AND I THINK ERIN IS ON HERE BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER FOR THE LIFE OF ME BUT WE WILL BRING A PRESENTATION BACK TO COUNSEL IN LATE MAY WITH AN UPDATE FOR THE EVENT LIKE WE TYPICALLY DO WITH THE HEADLINER AND ALL THE DETAILS.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER: WONDERFUL, LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

>> MAYOR: MASK DISCUSSION. WHEN WE GO OVER THESE RULES, THIS IS YOUR PLANNING. YOU HAVE TO PUT A STAKE IN THE GROUND AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PLAN IS AND YOU NEED TO DEVIATE FROM THAT PLAN. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS IS YOUR BEST GUESS WERE GOING TO DO IN MAY AND DUE IN JUNE BUT THINGS CAN CHANGE.

IF THE CDC COMES OUT AND SAYS MASKS ARE NO LONGER REQUIRED IF YOU ARE VACCINATED, WE MIGHT DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH MASKS.

WE MAY NOT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CLEAR, THIS IS OUR BEST GUESS AT THIS TIME AND WE'VE ALL BEEN THROWN CURVEBALLS IN THE LAST YEAR AND 1/2 SO WE WILL ADJUST ACCORDINGLY. IS THAT FAIR ANGIE?

>> SPEAKER: ABSOLUTELY. THAT IS THE PLAN AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DISCUSS THIS ABOUT ONCE A MONTH AT A COUNCIL MEETING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE COUNSEL'S BLESSING ON HOW HER MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR PLAN.

>> MAYOR: I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION.

ARE WE COMFORTABLE LETTING THE INDIVIDUAL BOARDS TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISION IF THEY FOLLOW THE SAFETY GUIDELINES?

>> COUNCIL MEMBER: MAYOR, THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY IF THERE ARE MEMBERS WHO ARE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT, I THINK IT PUTS IT IN A DIFFERENT LIGHT.

IS IT TOO SOON? BY JUNE WE WOULD THINK IT IS

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>> MAYOR: SHE SAID IT IS. [LAUGHTER] YOU CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION LATER.

>> SPEAKER: CAN I CLARIFY ON MY BEHALF? [LAUGHTER] THIS HYBRID SOLUTION IS DIFFERENT THAN THE HYBRID SOLUTION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

HE TALKED ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL GROUP WITHIN THEMSELVES NOT BROADCASTING TO THE PUBLIC. MEETING AT THEIR INDIVIDUAL GROUPS. PERHAPS HAVING THE CAPABILITY OF HAVING THOSE WHO MEET IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM THERE IS A TV.

YOU CAN ACCOMMODATE SOMEONE WHO IS VIRTUAL AND SO FORTH.

THAT IS WHAT THE HYBRID, WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING.

IT WASN'T REQUIRING IT OTHER THAN SCHEDULING THEM.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER: I DO KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE HOOPS WE HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH HERE IS BECAUSE WE BROADCAST IN THE WAY WE BRING IN PUBLIC COMMENTS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

IF WE CAN SOLVE FOR THAT I CERTAINLY HAVE NO ISSUE OF LETTING EACH BOARD MAKE THE DECISION IF THEY ARE READY TO

COME BACK IN PERSON. >> MAYOR: I THINK MAY BITE BE A GOOD TIME AT TRANSITIONING IT. WE HAVE SEEN WHAT HAPPENS WITH US STARTING TO MEET IN PERSON AGAIN.

THEY ARE REALLY STARVING FOR MEETING IN PERSON ALSO.

OKAY. OTHER COVID-19 UPDATE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY.

WE WANT TO START THE OTHER ONE? OKAY.

LET'S START. ALL RIGHT.

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>> SPEAKER: MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU.

I DID INCLUDE SEVERAL SLIDES THAT I AM GOING TO TOUCH ON AND WE WILL MOVE THROUGH THE FIRST HALF OF THIS PRESENTATION PRETTY QUICKLY BECAUSE I WANT TO GET TO THE MEAT OF THE DISCUSSION AS WE GO. NEXT SLIDE.

SO, WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THE STORM EVENT AND A LOT OF ARTICLES OUT THERE ABOUT IT. THERE'S STILL THE AFTERMATH OF THE POWER OUTAGES AND ISSUES THAT WE HAVE HAD AND ARE PLAYING OUT AT THE STATE'S HIGHEST LEVEL THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. THIS THING IS NOT OVER YET AND PROBABLY WON'T BE FOR SOME TIME.

? SOME OF THE IMAGES THAT WE HAD AND IT WAS NOT JUST THE SNOW EVENT ITSELF OBVIOUSLY BUT THE SEVERE COLD WAS WHAT CAUSED SOME OF THE ISSUES.

NEXT SLIDE? WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO PREPARE FOR THIS. HE KNEW IT WAS COMING EVEN A WEEK AHEAD. AND THEN OF COURSE EVERY DAY THAT WE GOT CLOSER TO IT WE CONTINUED TO PREPARE AND DO SOME OF THOSE LAST-MINUTE TWEAKS TO GET READY.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS WAS OUR WINTER TIMELINE.

I WENT OVER THIS WITH COUNSEL BACK IN LATE FEBRUARY.

I WON'T DO IT AGAIN. IT IS SIMPLY TO SAY THAT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, KNOWING WHAT WAS COMING AND KNOWING HOW TO PLAN FOR IT AND PREPARE FOR IT THERE WERE THINGS THAT WENT WELL, OBVIOUSLY, AND THEN THINGS THAT DID NOT.

NEXT SLIDE. JUST IN TERMS OF WHAT KIND OF ACTIVITIES DID OCCUR, WE OBVIOUSLY DID A LOT OF EVENT PREPARATION. WE HAD OUR EMERGENCY EVENT COORDINATOR, ADELE DARRIS AND HIS TEAM.

A LOT OF PEOPLE AND DEPARTMENTS WERE INVOLVED WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS AND THEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB IN PREPARING FOR THESE KINDS OF EVENTS. WE HAD HAD STORM EVENTS AND OTHERS. IN ADDITION TO THAT OF COURSE PARKS AND GETTING NEW FACILITIES READY, POLICE AND FIRE AND THIS IS ROUTINE. A LOT OF THIS IS ROUTINE FOR THE KIND OF STUFF THAT THEY DO. THEY DEICED THE SIDEWALKS, ORDERED SAND SO WE WOULD HAVE THAT READY AHEAD OF TIME AND WE EVEN FILLED THE SAND TRUCK SO THEY WERE READY TO GO.

WE WILL ALL THE VEHICLES. HE TESTED ALL OF THE GENERATORS TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE OPERATING AND THEY WERE UNTIL THE EVENT. SO, THERE'S SO MUCH WORK THAT WENT INTO PREPARING FOR THIS, IT'S NOT LIKE SOMETIMES WHAT HAPPENS IN A TORNADO WHERE YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE KNOWN THAT YOU

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THIS ONE YOU KNEW ABOUT IT AHEAD OF TIME AND WE HAD A CHECKLIST. WE DID ALL THE THINGS WE WOULD NORMALLY DO. I WOULD SAY THIS WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS WOULD BE AN UNUSUAL EVENT.

EVEN WITH THE SEVERE COLD AND ALL THE PREPARATION, I JUST THINK THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT WE WERE NOT PREPARED FOR.

ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE IT WE DIDN'T HAVE A SNOWPLOW OR EXTRA SAND SPREADERS THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. HAD WE HAD THEM IT MIGHT HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE. NEXT SLIDE.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WENT WELL, FOR THE MOST PART, CONNECTIVITY WORKED REALLY WELL.

PEOPLE WE'RE ABLE TO WORK FROM HOME TO GET EMAILS AND INFORMATION. WE DID NOT HAVE ANY MAJOR FIRES OR LARGE-SCALE INCIDENTS. NO EMPLOYEES GOT INJURED.

WE WE'RE ABLE TO SECURE SOME WARMING CENTERS AND THEY WERE PROBABLY SUB OPTIMAL IN TERMS OF IF WE WOULD HAVE HAD A SITE AHEAD OF TIME THAT WE COULD HAVE PLANNED FOR AND WE HAD THE EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING READY TO GO WE COULD HAVE MADE THAT MUCH BIGGER AND BETTER EXPERIENCE.

IT MAY HAVE CHANGED SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS BEHAVIOR.

IN OTHER WORDS, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DID NOT, TOO MAKE CHOICES ON THEY MIGHT HAVE MADE EARLIER IF THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE. TEAMWORK WAS GOOD, WE DIDN'T HAVE WATER MAIN BREAKS. WE DID HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL MEANS BREAK BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE WATER MAIN BREAKS WHICH HERE, OUR GUYS ARE OUT AND SUBZERO DEGREE WEATHER TRYING TO FIX THOSE THINGS. WE DID NOT DO THAT.

SO, THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS IN THE ONE THING I HAVE TO KEEP SAYING OVER AND OVER, NEIGHBORS HELPING NEIGHBORS.

WE KNOW THEY WERE OUT THERE AND THEY REALLY HELPED THE COMMUNITY. NEXT SLIDE.

SOME THINGS WE DID HAVE LACK OF POWER AT CITY FACILITIES WAS A HUGE ISSUE. THERE WERE FACILITIES HEAR THEIR WERE BUSINESSES, PARTICULARLY ALONG 66 IN A PARTICULAR AREA, THEY DIDN'T HAVE POWER OUTAGES AT ALL.

AT THE ENTIRE EVENTS. MOST OF OUR FACILITIES LOST POWER FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME OR SHORT PERIODS OF TIME.

THE BACKUP GENERATORS IS SOMETHING WE LIVED WITH FOR A LONG TIME AND, REALLY, TO SOME EXTENT THE CITY FACILITIES BUT THE SEWER LIST STATIONS IN THIS KIND OF WEATHER, IT REALLY WORRIED ME THAT OUR GUYS WERE OUT THERE TRYING TO PUMP DOWN THE STATIONS IN THAT KIND OF WEATHER AND, YOU WILL SEE THIS IS WHY THIS IS ONE OF MY HIGHEST PRIORITIES TO GET THESE THINGS FIXED WITH WHATEVER IT TAKES.

INTERMITTENT GENERATOR POWER. EVEN FACILITIES THAT HAD GENERATORS, STILL HAD ISSUES. THE BRAND-NEW AND THAT WE PUT IN AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER DID NOT WORK AT TIMES.

IT WAS FAULTY AT TIMES. OUR POLICE BUILDING, WHERE, IT'S GOT TO WORK AND IT DIDN'T WORK THERE WERE SOME COOLANT LEAKS THAT CAUSED ISSUES BUT PRIMARILY DUE TO LONG RUN TIMES. THAT WAS A BIG ISSUE.

AND EVEN MAY BE BEYOND THAT IS THE FACT THAT IF WE HAD MOBILE GENERATORS WHICH WE DO HAVE A FEW OF.

OR WE COULD SECURE ONE BY LEASING IT OR RENTING IT, HOWEVER IT WOULD TAKE TO ACQUIRE IT, WE DIDN'T HAVE CONNECTION TO THE BUILDING TO BE ABLE TO HOOK UP.

IF ALL I DO IS BRING AN EXPENSIVE GENERATOR TO THE FACILITY AND ALL WE CAN DO IS HOOK UP A FEW POWER CORD SO PEOPLE CAN RUN A FEW HEATERS, THAT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING FOR THE BUILDING ITSELF. BUT, IF WE HAD THE QUICK CONNECT THAT WE COULD HOOK UP TO THE CHARGES THE ENTIRE SYSTEM NOW WE HAVE SOMETHING. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL SEE AS A HIGH PRIORITY FOR US AS WELL.

OBVIOUSLY GETTING REPAIR PARTS AND THE WATER LINE BREAKS ALL OVER THE CITY HELPING OUT WITH THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS TIED UP WITH IT FOR A WHILE AND PUBLIC WORKS AND WE HAD HELP FROM COUNSEL JUST TRYING TO HELP WITH THAT.

ULTIMATELY, 656 REQUESTS, PARTICULARLY IN THOSE FIRST 48 HOURS WERE JUST AMAZING TO GET ALL OF THAT DONE.

THERE WERE SOME VEHICLE ACCIDENTS, OBVIOUSLY IN THIS

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FOODSTUFF, BREAD, MILK AND EGGS AND THE INABILITY TO GET WATER.

EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME WHERE THEY DIDN'T HAVE POWER.

AND THEN, I NO ONE PLACE IN WATERVIEW WHEN THE POWER CAME BACK ON A LOST GAS. AND WHEN THE POWER WENT OFF THEY GOT THE GAS BACK. THEY COULD HEAT THE BUILDING BUT THEY COULDN'T DO BOTH AT ONE-TIME.

YOU COULDN'T COOK AND HAVE POWER AT THE SAME TIME.

THE DART ARMS MISSED FUNCTION, THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS WERE OUT OF POWER FOR A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME NOT TO MENTION THE ICY ROADS. JUST SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS FOR NEXT TIME, I THINK THERE ARE BOTH OPERATIONAL THINGS THAT WE ARE ALREADY STARTING TO WORK ON TO TRY TO PREPARE PROCESSES AND POLICIES. ONE, FOR EXAMPLE, PREPARED SCRIPTS FOR AUTOMATED MESSAGING SO WE ARE NOT HAVING TO MAKE IT UP IN THE MOMENT BUT WE ALREADY HAVE A SCRIPT FOR A LOT OF THE STUFF. THOSE OPERATIONAL THINGS WHICH I KNOW YOU HAVE SEEN IN THE APPENDIX TO THE WRITTEN REPORT THAT WAS IN THE AGENDA TONIGHT. IN TERMS OF THE BIGGER ITEMS AND EQUIPMENT, THE GENERATORS FOR THE MAJOR FACILITIES, SEWER LIFT STATIONS AND, MAYBE IF WE DECIDE NOT TO DO THAT AT EVERY FACILITY MAYBE WE DO THE QUICK CONNECT.

MAYBE, PARTICULARLY IF IT IS A BUILDING WE KNOW WERE NOT GOING TO BE IN FOREVER. IF WE THINK WE HAVE ANOTHER FIVE, 78 YEARS, MAYBE THAT'S ONE WHERE WE DON'T PUT IN THE GENERATOR WE PUT IN THE QUICK CONNECT.

WE PUT IN THE MOBILE GENERATOR AND YOU ARE OFF TO THE RACE AND YOU GO. MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE DO THE WIRE QUICK CONNECT. MITIGATION OPTIONS TO PROTECT OUR FACILITIES FROM EXTREME WEATHER.

I WILL TELL YOU WHAT THAT'S ABOUT.

ON THING WE LEARNED FROM THE DEVELOPMENT BUILDING ON 5702 ROWLETT ROAD IS THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF WHERE OUR FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM IS, WAS NOT ADEQUATELY INSULATED.

IT IS PROBABLY FINE FOR THE NORMAL HOLD EVENTS WE HAD BUT NOT WHEN IT GETS DOWN TO 0. THAT WAS NOT THE ONLY ONE THE BROKE BECAUSE OF THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW THAT THE BUSINESSES ARE DEALING WITH, TOO. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE SMALLER STUFF I WON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON IT OUR SOFTWARE SYSTEM TO MAKE THE PHONES WORK. EXAMPLE, SHE HAD HER PHONE - SYSTEM FORWARDED TO HER CELL PHONE AND THAT IS NOT THE WAY TO OPERATE. WE HAD THE LICENSES AND HAD WE HAD THE TECH KNOWLEDGE HE WHICH IS AVAILABLE TO US AND HAD IT BEEN READY WE WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO MOVE THAT AROUND TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND HAVE MORE PEOPLE LIKE SOME OF OUR EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT THAT HAVE TO BE AT HOME.

WE COULD HAVE HAD MORE HELP TO ANSWER CALLS.

AND SO, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE THINK WELCOME ACROSS VERY QUICKLY. ONE THAT WE ALREADY TOOK CARE OF IN THE FIRE STATIONS, THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN HANDLED.

AND THEN, DEVELOPING PLANS FOR A WATER SHUT OFF.

MY GOSH, WITH ICE MCGETTIGAN AND ALL OF THE OTHER STORMS WE HAVE HAD, IS NOT BEEN WANT TO WORRY ABOUT THE GUESS WHAT, THIS EVEN SAID NO, YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT.

SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT I THINK OBVIOUSLY WOULD BE HELPFUL ADDITIOA PORTABLE STOP SIGNS, MOBILE TRAFFIC SIGNALS, ANOTHER VEHICLE MOUNTED FUEL TANK WE COULD'VE HAD A TANK GOING OUT TO WHERE WE WERE WORKING TO LET PEOPLE FILL UP INSTEAD OF WHEN YOU HAVE SUCH LIMITED EQUIPMENT TO BEGIN WITH TO DEAL WITH SANDERS AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A SNOWPLOW AT ALL.

BUT WE HAD OTHER EQUIPMENT OUT THERE AND THAT WOULD'VE BEEN REALLY GOOD IF WE WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE ANOTHER PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT COULD HAVE BEEN OUT THERE HELPING TO FUEL THAT EQUIPMENT. THEN WE NEED TO BE SMART ABOUT THIS. FOR EXAMPLE, SNOWPLOWS, WE HAVE DUMP TRUCKS. SOMETIMES YOU CAN GET THEM SO

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SO IF DURING THE SUMMER THEY ARE A REGULAR DUMP TRUCK THAT'S FINE AND IN THE WINTER THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO BE A SNOWPLOW TRUCK AND LEFT TO THAT, TOO. AND THEN THE FEASIBILITY OF MODIFYING OUR FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEMS, IF WE CAN GO TO A DRY SYSTEM AND LOOK AT THAT IN IDENTIFYING SOLUTIONS FOR PET.

WE WERE NOT READY FOR THAT KIND OF VOLUME.

EVEN, IT WAS ALL THAT OUR ANIMAL SHELTER COULD DO TO HANDLE WHAT WE HAD. PARTICULARLY WITH INTERMITTENT POWER. THAT IS SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS FOR NEXT TIME.

. FACILITIES, I WILL SAY THIS THERE WAS CONSIDERABLE DAMAGE AT OUR FACILITIES.

WE HAD OUR INITIAL ESTIMATE AT 178,000 AND WE HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED 165. WE'VE GOT MOST OF IT HEAR THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT ARE STILL OUTSTANDING.

THEY USE THIS AS THE OPPORTUNITY AS YOU REMEMBER HALF THE BUILDING WAS FLOODED. THEY USE THAT TO GO AHEAD AND REMOVE CARPET SO WE COULD FIX THE FOUNDATION WHICH WAS ALREADY BUDGETED AND BY PUTTING IN NEW CARPET WE SAVED MONEY ON THE BUDGET. WE HAD SET ASIDE FOR NEW CARPET TO BEGIN WITH HERE THEY WERE READY TO GO AND I THINK WE ACTUALLY USED WOOD IN SOME AREAS.

THE POINT IS IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY.

HR IS TORN UP THE SAME WAY BUT THESE WERE PROJECTS THAT WERE ALREADY SCHEDULED PRE-COVID TO FIX THOSE FOUNDATIONS.

NOW WE ARE GETTING IT DONE, MIGHT AS WELL.

GOOD NEWS ON INSURANCE WE HAVE IT FOR THE MOST PART OVER 90 PERCENT OF THE MONEY THAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD GET.

NEXT SLIDE. WATER LEAK ADJUSTMENT POLICY I WANT TO BRAG ON THIS A LITTLE BIT.

I APPRECIATE COUNSEL BEING WILLING TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE POLICY WE HAD.

WE NORMALLY WOULD ONLY ADJUST 50 PERCENT WHEN WE HAD THAT BUT COUNSEL FELT STRONGLY TO RAISE THAT TO 100 PERCENT AND WE INCLUDED SWIMMING POOLS WHICH WERE THE LANGUAGE BEING SOLID ON THAT. 129 PEOPLE HAVE RECEIVED HELP THAT MET THE QUALIFICATIONS AND THAT WAS GREAT.

OVER 1.2 MILLION GALLONS. BASICALLY, FROM THOSE THAT HAD A WATER LEAK, THE AVERAGE WAS 12 TO 13,000 GALLONS.

THAT IS A LOT OF WATER. >> MAYOR: I WAS ONE OF THOSE BUT I NEVER GOT ANY COMMUNICATION ON WHAT THE ADJUSTMENT WAS. THERE WAS A COMMUNICATION OF THIS IS HOW YOU ASK FOR AN ADJUSTMENT.

THERE'S A COMMUNICATION OF YOU QUALIFY AND THEN THERE WAS A BILL THAT APPEARED THAT THE ADJUSTMENT WAS ALREADY DONE THAT THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION OF WHAT WAS ADJUSTED.

IT WAS LIKE THERE WAS A MISSING LINK.

FYI, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO INTO DETAIL.

>> SPEAKER: IF WE HAD NOT DONE THE CIRCLE BACK, WE NEED TO.

I DID NOT REALIZE THAT WE HAD NOT DONE THAT MAY BE BECAUSE IT WAS JUST YOU. [LAUGHTER]

>> MAYOR: I DON'T THINK SO. WE PROVIDED A HUGE BENEFIT TO A LOT OF RESIDENTS BUT WE DIDN'T TELL THEM WHAT THAT WAS.

SO, I DON'T KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THAT.

IT WAS A MISSING LINK. >> SPEAKER: THEY DID HAVE TO APPLY APPEARED MAYOR, I WOULD THINK THAT COMMUNICATION WOULD'VE BEEN DONE AND MAYBE IN SOME CASES IT WAS.

>> MAYOR: IT COULD BE IN MY JUNK FILE SO WE COULD HAVE THAT. I'M GOING TO STOP YOU FOR A MINUTE IT IS 7:29 I DON'T WANT TO START THE REGULAR MEETING TOO LATE CAN YOU FIND A STOPPING POINT AND THEN WE CAN PICK UP FOR THE REGULAR MEETING.

>> SPEAKER: I THINK I'M ACTUALLY THERE.AYOR, THIS IS A GREAT STOPPING SPACE RIGHT HERE BECAUSE THE REST OF THIS IT IS GOING TO BE ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU SEE HIM THE NEXT STEPS THAT WE CAN TAKE.

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>> MAYOR: IS IT OKAY TO PICK THIS UP AFTERWARDS?OUNSEL, CAN YOU LOOK AT THE CONSENT AGENDA AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT PULLED? BLAKE, I THANK YOU WANT 7C PULLED FOR CONSIDERATION? DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THEY WOULD LIKE OLD? LET'S TAKE A QUICK BREAK FIVE MINUTE COUNCILWOMAN BROWN?NY DISCUSSION I AM SEEING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE THEIR HAND AND THAT ITEM PASSES SEVEN Ã ZERO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNSEL AND PUBLIC WE DID NOT COMPLETE ONE OF OUR WORK SESSION ITEMS SO WE ARE GOING

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OKAY. >> SPEAKER: WE GOT THROUGH SOME OF THE INTRODUCTORY PART EARLIER AND WE WERE GOING TO MOVE INTO ACTUAL RECOMMENDATIONS.

I AM SORRY, I HAVE TO PUSH THE LITTLE BUTTON AND HE DOESN'T LET ME PUSH IT THAT OFTEN. THERE ARE THREE ELEMENTS TO THIS AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION. AGAIN, IT IS NOT JUST EQUIPMENT WE MIGHT NEED TO BUY BUT ALSO SOME PROCESSES AND STEPS THAT ALSO NEED TO BE THANK YOU IN THAT SO THERE IS A PLANNING ELEMENT WE WILL DISCUSS AFTER THE EQUIPMENT ONE AND THEN THERE IS AN EXERCISE ITEM WE WILL TALK ABOUT.

SOME OF THE AREAS AND I WON'T READ EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE BUT OBVIOUSLY THE SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION IS A BIG ISSUE.

IN SOME RESPECTS 4 AT LEAST TWO DAYS YOU DIDN'T HAVE MANY PEOPLE OUT ON THE ROAD. BUT YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT YOU CERTAINLY DON'T, YOU DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.

STAFF HAS LOOKED AT MAY BE DEVELOPING MOBILE TRAFFIC SIGNALS THAT WE CAN DO IN TWO PHASES.

WHEN WOULD BE FOR INTERSECTIONS AND THE OTHER WOULD BE FIVE INTERSECTIONS AND WE WILL END UP PROPOSING TO PHASE THOSE.

IT IS A BIG BUDGET ITEM, OVER $1 MILLION.

BUT, THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TO START WITH WHICH IS THE A-FRAME BARRICADE AND STOP SIGNS FOR 27 SIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS AND THAT WOULD HELP US TO MOBILIZE QUICKLY AND BE ABLE TO USE SOME MANUAL SIGNAGE AS WE NEED TO.

THERE'S BOTH A SHORT-TERM FIX AND LONGER-TERM ISSUE TO SOLVE FOUR. THE GENERATOR POWER IS THE BIG ONE. I THINK THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY. 1ST AND FOREMOST, WE HAVE TO ADD THESE GENERATORS FOR OUR 13 STATIONS.

ABOUT HALF OF THE SEWER LIST STATIONS DO NOT HAVE GENERATOR POWERDOWN. FOR YEARS, OUR STAFF GETS OUT IN THE MOST INCLEMENT WEATHER POSSIBLE AND PUMP DOWN THE STATIONS BASICALLY WITH MOBILE GENERATORS.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS GET OUT OF THE BUSINESS OF THAT.

THESE THINGS WERE, THEY NEED TO WORK ALL THE TIME AND THEY NEED TO BE RELIABLE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THOSE LIFT STATIONS. WHEN OUR SYSTEM GOES OFF AND TELLS US THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH ONE GO FIX ONE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CAN I GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B TO POINT C QUICK ENOUGH TO DRAIN THIS ONE AND THEN GET TO THE NEXT ONE AND TRAIN IT AND NOT HAVE ONE BACKUP SOMEHOW.

IT IS A HUGE ISSUE AND IT IS A LOGISTICAL NIGHTMARE.

THERE ARE TIMES THAT THE WEATHER DOES NOT COOPERATE.

IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A SEVERE WIND EVENT COME THROUGH IN THE MIDDLE OF SUMMER WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE TREES OR BRUSH AROUND BUT IN THE WINTER YOU HAVE OTHER ISSUES TO TRY TO GET THERE. AND THEN SOME OF OUR FACILITIES DO NOT HAVE GENERATORS, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CENTERS WHERE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT IS AND OUR FIREMAN BUILDINGS, CITY HALL THE RCC. WE DO HAVE A GENERATOR AT CITY HALL FOR IT, TECHNOLOGY BUT NOT FOR THE BUILDING AS A WHOLE.

I JUST WANTED THAT CLARIFIED IN THE RCC DOESN'T HAVE WANTED ALL. WE ARE ALSO SUGGESTING THAT WE LOOK AT REPLACEMENT GENERATORS WERE THE PLAYSTATION BUILDING AN OLD FIRE STATION NUMBER 2. IN TERMS OF HOW AND WHAT THESE MIGHT BE MORE IMPORTANT AND QUICKER, WE BELIEVE WE WILL HAVE SOME FUNDS IDENTIFIED QUICKLY FROM THE NEW AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN THAT CAN BE USED FOR THE 13 SEWER LIFT STATIONS AND IT WILL BE BUILT QUITE NICELY.

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THAT IS PRETTY QUICK. THAT'S WHY I SAID EARLIER IN THREE WEEKS WE WILL KNOW WHAT THOSE REGULATIONS WILL BE.

WE HAVE ABOUT $463,000 LEFT OVER FROM THE BUDGET WORK SESSION WE DID IN JANUARY. WHICH COULD THEN TARGET THE RCC. AND, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS LIST, THIS IS A LOT. THESE ARE BIG TARGETED ITEMS. THE POLICE STATION ALONE COULD BE 3 AND A THOUSAND.

FIRE AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY FOR THOSE FACILITIES THAT WE INTEND TO MOVE INTO A CONSOLIDATED CITY COMPLEX AT SOME POINT, MAYBE FOR THOSE THAT WE CONSIDER THE WIRE QUICK CONNECT.

WHAT THAT DOES IS ALLOWS A MOBILE UNIT TO PULL UP TO A BUILDING, HOOK UP TO THE BUILDING WITH MAYBE JUST A FEW SWITCHES TO FLIP AND WE ARE OFF AND RUNNING FOR THE ENTIRE BUILDING. YOU KNOW? AND THEN I THINK THAT PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US FOR A FEW BUILDINGS THAT WE MAY NOT LOOK FOR A PERMANENT SOLUTION JUST YET BUT REGARDLESS TO WHAT HAPPENS IN OUR FACILITY DISCUSSIONS, THESE BUILDINGS THE NEW FACILITIES WILL BE SO EXPENSIVE THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING THOSE YEARS OVER TIME AFTER THE PUBLIC FACILITY FOR EXAMPLE, CITY HALL AND LIBRARY, REALISTICALLY THIS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU DO ALL AND ONE JUNCTURE. IT WILL TAKE TIME.

THIS IS AN OPTION WHICH I BELIEVE IS THE AUTHORITY TO INSTALL THE WIRE QUICK CONNECT BECAUSE IT WILL BUY US SOME TIME. IF WE DON'T WANT TO BUY THE TIME AND WE WANT TO INVEST IT THAT IS FINE BUT IT COULD BE AN OPTION FOR US. SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT, I LIKE THE IDEA ABOUT THE DUMP TRUCK SNOWPLOW, I THINK THERE IT IS HAVING THE SNOWPLOW AS AND ADD-ON.

DURING THE SUMMER IT'S THE NORMAL DEAL AND THEN IN THE WINTER IF WE HAD ANOTHER EVENT WE WOULD HAVE THE ATTACHMENT TO GO ON THE DUMP TRUCK AND MAYBE SOME OF THE STANDARDS ARE IMPORTANT. WE MENTIONED THE ADDITIONAL FECAL CELL FOR THE NEXT THING YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR THE FILTER KITS. THE RCC COULD HAVE BEEN THE WARMING FACILITY FOR US. IF WE REALLY HAD THE GENERATOR POWER, FOR 1, SECONDLY IF WE WOULD HAVE HAD THE SHELTER KIT, THESE ARE ESSENTIALLY WHEN WE SAY A KITS, IT IS A CONGLOMERATION OF SEVERAL PIECES THAT WE WOULD PUT INTO PLACE FOR ONE-FAMILY TO HAVE WHAT THEY NEEDED WHILE THEY WERE GOING TO BE WITH US AND WHILE WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM AND THEN A TRAILER TO PULL THAT ON AND THEN BE ABLE TO DEPLOY THEM WHERE WE NEEDED TO. THERE WOULD BE SOME PRACTICAL L LIMITATIONS FOR HOW MANY PEOPLE COULD BE AT THE RCC.

WE HAVE SO MANY RESTROOMS. WE HAVE SHOWER FACILITIES BUT ONLY FOR A FINITE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT CAN BE THERE.

HAD WE HAD THAT ABILITY WE COULD'VE HAD MORE FLEXIBILITY THAN WE DID WITH THE ROWLETT BOLA RAMA FOR EXAMPLE HELPING WITH SOME OF THE PETS OR WE COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING WITH THEM THAT STILL WOULD HAVE KEPT THEM SAFE EVEN IF WE HAD TO DO SOME THING. IT WOULD HAVE GIVEN US SOME FLEXIBILITY THAT WE DID NOT HAVE THROUGH THE EVENT.

ELC BACKUP EQUIPMENT. THIS IS BASICALLY HOW DO YOU TURN A SITE INTO A 91 EQUIPMENT CENTER.

IF THE POLICE BUILDING HAD BEEN OUT OF POWER LONGER FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE HAD LOST A GENERATOR IF WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO KEEP THE 91 FACILITY UP AND RUNNING, THERE WAS A TIME WHERE THEY HAD STATEWIDE ISSUES WITH THE SYSTEM ITSELF.

NORMALLY IN AN EVENT LIKE THAT WE CAN TURN IT OVER TO ROWLANDS 9-1-1 CENTER WHEN WE HAVE SHORT JUNCTURES WHERE IT IS OUT.

IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE WE WERE OUT FOR I BELIEVE IT WAS NINE HOURS AND I AM DOING THAT MY MEMORY.

IF WE HAD ANOTHER LOCATION AS YOU ALL KNOW IN THE NEW FIRE STATION NUMBER 2 WE ARE BUILDING AND EEOC CENTER A

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YOU KNOW, THIS IS HAVING THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE CAN HAVE DISPATCHERS STILL BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE AND STILL BE ABLE TO DO THEIR JOBS IF SAY THE POLICE BUILDING WAS HIT.

THEN THERE ARE SOME REMOTE OFF SIDING WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. IN TOTALITY ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE 4.5 MILLION.

I BELIEVE THE GENERATORS HAVE A STRONGER SENSE OF URGENCY.

THERE ARE SOME FUNDING SOURCES FOR IT.

TONIGHT WE WILL NOT GET INTO WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE READY TO COMMIT THOSE FUNDS UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT IS TELLING US FOR SURE WHAT WE CAN DO.

I WILL GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE OF WHY THAT IS IMPORTANT.

WHEN THEY SHOW YOU THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT WHAT THE QUALIFIED EXPENSES ARE, ONE THING THEY SAY IS WATER, SEWER OR BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE. THE QUESTION IS, OR DOES IT MEAN YOU CAN PICK ONLY ONE OF THE THREE OR DOES THE OR MEAN AND? WE BELIEVE IT SHOULD MEAN AND.

IF THAT'S THE CASE WE DO HAVE A BROADBAND CAPABILITY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND WHICH IS NOT NECESSARILY STORM RELATED, BUT OTHER THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO.

NEXT SLIDE. SO, CAPABILITY ELEMENT NUMBER 2. THIS IS REALLY MORE ABOUT THE PLANNING ASPECT AND THIS IS ABOUT DOING PREPARATORY WORK NOW SO WHEN WE ACTUALLY GET TO THE NEXT EVENT WHATEVER THAT EVENT IS, WE ALREADY HAVE AND ARE ALREADY READY FOR SOCIAL MEDIA AND MESSAGING. WE HAVE SOME PRE-SCRIPTED COMMUNICATIONS AND MESSAGES. WHATEVER THEY LOOK LIKE.

IT COULD BE SOME YOUTUBE VIDEOS ON HOW TO TURN OFF YOUR WATER METER YOURSELF. I WAS ABLE TO DO THAT AT MY HOUSE WHEN WE HAD A WATER LEAK BUT NOT EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW TO DO ABOUT GOING THAT OR HAS THE TOOL TO DO IT.

IT CAN BE DONE WITH A WRENCH BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT THAT WAY, I ASSURE YOU LOOKING AT THAT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF HOW DO WE WEAPON EYES SO TO SPEAK OUR SOCIAL MEDIA IN THESE EVENTS AND BEING READY FOR THAT, STAFF LOGISTICS IN ALLOTTED EVENTS WE CAN CYCLE PEOPLE OUT QUICKLY.

EIGHT HOUR SHIFTS AND CYCLE THEM OUT.

THERE ARE TIMES WHEN YOU MAY HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE LOCKED IN ALL NIGHT OR MAYBE EVEN FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS.

HAVING A PLAN FOR FEEDING THEM AND TAKING CARE OF THEM WHILE THEY'RE DOING THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

WHEN THEY CAN'T GET BACK OUT AND GO HOME THEN MAKING SURE WE ARE TAKING CARE OF OUR STAFF WHILE THEY ARE ENGAGED IN THESE EVENTS. SOME OTHER ACCOMMODATIONS LIKE THAT. SHELTER AND POINT OF DISTRIBUTION, HAVING THAT SHELTER OPERATION PLAN, WHERE WOULD IT BE? WHAT WOULD WE DO AND UNDERSTANDING THAT. EVEN IF WE WOULD HAVE HAD THE RCC AND WE HAD THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE THINK WE COULD HAVE HAD THAT WERE AFFECTED BY A POWER OUTAGES, WE STILL PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE HAD ENOUGH ROOM BY YOURSELF.

AND THAT'S WHERE YOU LOOK AT OUR FAITH-BASED COMMUNITY AND OTHERS THAT COULD ALSO HELP THOSE THAT HAVE POWER OR WHERE WE COULD ACTUALLY GET THEM POWER FOR AN EXTENDED EVEN FOR LARGER EVENTS, THE TORNADO IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT.

SO MANY PEOPLE BOTH IN THE ICE STORM AND TORNADO SHELTER IN PLACE FOR LONG. TIME.

HAD THEY HAD OTHER OPTIONS THEY MAY HAVE CHOSEN DIFFERENTLY.

SO, THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE WOULD BUILD OVER TIME AND THROUGH OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT STAFF.

RESPONSE AND RECOVERY COORDINATION JUST MAKING SURE THAT OUR OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS IN CHARGE OF THESE EVENTS AND SO, SOMEONE IS COORDINATING THAT UNDER THEIR UMBRELLA AND IT'S LIKE WHERE DO I NEED TO GO COACH AND THEN THEY PUT YOU IN WHERE YOU NEED TO BE.

AND SO, FIRE SUPPRESSION, AGAIN, THIS IS AN AREA WHERE THE FIRE APPARATUS AND FIRE PREVENTION, JUST MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE GOOD TO GO. WE CANNOT AFFORD TO EVER LOSE

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MAYBE BUILDING PREVENTATIVE MEASURES OUT THERE TO HELP PEOPLE PREPARE. I REMEMBER WHEN WE LIVED IN COLORADO THERE WAS ALWAYS THE POSSIBILITY THAT YOU WOULD GET STUCK IN A SNOW BANK WHEN YOU ARE TRAVELING.

YOU SLIDE OFF THE ROAD, HAVE A WRECK OR WHATEVER IT IS AND YOU MAY BE ON YOUR OWN FOR SEVERAL DAYS.

SO, THERE WERE THINGS THAT WE CARRIED IN OUR VEHICLE ALL THE TIME. CANDLES, WATER, SO THE THINGS WE DID YOUR BLANKET. JUST TO MAKE SURE IF IT EVER HAPPENED THAT WE WERE TAKING CARE OF.

NEXT SLIDE. THEN, CAPABILITY THREE, EXERCISING THOSE THINGS, TESTING OUR SHELTER PLAN AND TRAINING ONCE WE HAVE THAT PLAN TOGETHER, TRAINING FOR THE CITY STAKEHOLDERS, THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLANS, NOT JUST CITY STAFF AND COUNSEL BUT THE EXTENDED VERSION OF THAT.

AND THEN OF COURSE, TRAINING. THE FUNNY PART IS BECAUSE OF THE TORNADO AND THE TRAINING WE HAVE IN THE STAFF WE HAD, IT'S NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE OF TRACKING THINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN DEFEND OUR FEMA REIMBURSEMENTS IN A DISASTER, THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE BUT ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THE MOMENT WE KNOW WHERE EVERYBODY IS, WE KNOW WHO IS ASSIGNED TO CERTAIN DUTIES.

PEOPLE ARE SCHEDULED AHEAD OF TIME.

YOU MAY BE CALLED ON THIS DAY TO WORK.

YOU KNOW, IT'S THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

I THANKFUL IN ALL SOME OF THESE WILL BE ABLE TO BE DONE IN THE COMING MONTHS VERY QUICKLY. THE FUNDING, AT LEAST IN MAY THE FIRST MEETING WE WILL BE ABLE TOCOME BACK AND MAKE HARD BUDGET DECISIONS. WE WANTED TO GET THIS IN FRONT OF YOU PARTICULARLY WITH THIS EVENT BECAUSE THE I THINK THERE WERE SOME LESSONS LEARNED AND HAD IT'S NOT IN QUITE AS COLD AND HAD WE NOT HAD AS MANY LEAKS, WE COULD HAVE WEATHERED THE POWER OUTAGE DIFFERENTLY OR MAYBE HAD SOME OTHER OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO US. YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY SAID, I WAS LISTENING TO A PODCAST THE OTHER DAY.

IF YOU THINK OF THIS AS THE HUNDRED YEAR STORM EVENT, WHO PLANS FOR HUNDRED YEAR STORM EVENTS? BUT THERE WERE SOME THINGS WE COULD HAVE HAD IN PLACE TO DO IT BETTER. AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO LEARN FROM IT AND THAT'S WHY YOU DUTIES AFTER THE EVENT YOU DUTIES STUDIES AND ANALYSIS AND HAVE THESE STUDIES AND ANALYSIS. COUNSEL, THAT WAS A PRESENTATION PART OF IT. I AM CERTAINLY WILLING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT ANY OF THE PIECES OR THE PARTS AND -OH, I AM SORRY SOME OF THE NEXT STEPS ARE COMING BACK FOR THE FUTURE WORK SESSION ON THE ACTUAL BUDGETARY DECISIONS WE CAN MAKE. THEN, REALLY, THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT THE CITY WILL BE GETTING QUITE A BIT OF MONEY FOR THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT AND A MORE COMPLETE PLAN AND SCHEDULE AS PART OF THAT BUDGET PROCESS.

BEFORE WE GET TO QUESTIONS I HAVE ONE MORE SLIDE, LAURA, THANK YOU. WE WANT TO THANK OUR INCREDIBLE STAFF AND COUNCILMEMBERS FOR THEIR RESPONSE TO THIS EVENT.

EVERYBODY DID WHAT WE ASKED OF THEM AND PITCHED IN TO HELP IN INCREDIBLY CHALLENGING WEATHER CONDITIONS THEY DID IT WILL. WE HAD SO MANY COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND SOME OF OUR FAITH-BASED COMMUNITY, CORNERSTONE AND FIRST CHRISTIAN CHURCH REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND OF COURSE OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES ARE ALWAYS SO GOOD TO US. BOLA RAMA, KINGS, CHICK-FIL-A,

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AT A TIME WHERE IT IS HARD TO GET TO MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF PEOPLE, SO OFTEN IT IS YOUR NEIGHBORS THAT WILL HELP YOU OUT WHEN YOU NEED IT. WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE THIS COMMUNITY. SO, QUESTIONS?

COMMENTS? >> MAYOR: I HAVE A GENERAL COMMENTS.HEN YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THESE EVENTS AND SO MUCH IT IS GOING ON AND SIT BACK AND LOOK AT EVERYTHING YOU DID AND YOU LOOK AT THE COMMUNICATIONS AND TEAMWORK AND YOU LOOK AT YOUR CITY STAFF, TIME AND TIME AGAIN THE CITY STAFF PERFORMS IN DIRE SITUATIONS.

THIS COMMUNITY AND THIS CITY STAFF IS EVERYTHING.

YOU KNOW, I LOVED WATCHING EVERYBODY HOLD TOGETHER, NEIGHBORS HELPING NEIGHBORS. THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR CITY STAFF FOR DOING ANOTHER HUNDRED YEAR EVENT AND PULLING IT OFF.

I KNOW THERE WERE SOME HICCUPS AND WE CAN ALWAYS DO BETTER.

BUT, I THOUGHT WE DID PRETTY DARN GOOD.

QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER MARGOLIS: HOLD ON, I AM SO SORRY.

I LOST IT. >> MAYOR: I WILL ASK JUAN WHILE

HE IS WAITING. >> COUNCIL MEMBER MARGOLIS:

THERE WE GO, I'VE GOT IT. >> MAYOR: AND HE SAID I MAKE GOOD SOUP, TOO. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO COOK FOR THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER IN THE SHELTER BUT I

DID. >> COUNCIL MEMBER MARGOLIS: MAY I SAY THIS, WE PROBABLY HAVE THE ONLY MAYOR IN THE METROPLEX THAT MADE SOUP FOR PEOPLE IN THE SHELTERS I JUST HAD TO SAY

THAT. >> MAYOR: I WAS COOKING FOR PEOPLE THAT WERE STAYING AT MY HOME THAT WERE STAYING WARM,

TOO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER MARGOLIS: IT WAS REALLY TASTY. ARE THERE ANY MEASURES THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED TO AVOID THE SITUATION THAT WE HAD WITH 9-1-1 BEING DOWN? I KNOW IT WAS A STATEWIDE THING BUT WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE COULD DO TO HAVE AN AUTOMATIC PHONE LINE TRANSFERRED TO THE NONEMERGENCY PHONE LINE? YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW THAT NOW BUT IT WAS DOWN FOR 9 HOURS

STATEWIDE. >> SPEAKER: WE HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE BECAUSE WE HAVE A PARTNER THAT I DID NOT THINK AND SHOULD HAVE. THAT IS THE CITY OF GARLAND.

GARLANDS, ROWLETT JOINED WITH GARLAND AND MESQUITE FOR OUR RADIO TOWER COMMUNICATIONS AND OUR 9-1-1 SYSTEM IS SO IMPORTANT AND GARLAND HAS BEEN A GREAT PARTNER WITH US IN THE.

SO, WHEN WE HAVE HAD AN ISSUE BEFORE AND MOST OF THE TIME THESE ARE SHORT-TERM ISSUES MAY BE JUST A FEW HOURS AT THE MOST. REALLY, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IN 18 YEARS I DON'T EVEN KNOW OF ANOTHER NINE HOUR EVENT WE'VE EVER HAD. WE ROLLED THAT OFF TO GARLANDS AND GARLAND WILL EVEN ANSWER AND DISPATCH OUR PEOPLE AND HELP US WITH THAT. IN ADDITION TO THE GENERATOR ISSUE, IT WAS NOT THE ISSUE THAT WERE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

THEY HAD THE SAME SOFTWARE WE DO ALONG WITH OTHER ENTITIES IN THE STATE. THERE WAS REALLY NOBODY ELSE THAT WE COULD HAVE MAY BE, POSSIBLY, ONE THING WE DO IS WE ARE STARTING TO TALK TO ROCKWELL BECAUSE THEY ARE STARTING TO HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT IS BIG ENOUGH THAT WE MAY START CONSIDERING SOME ILA STUFF WE NEVER PCONSIDERED BEFORE BECAUSE WE NEVER HAD THE RELIABLE FIRE SERVICE THAT HELPED US AND WE HELP THEM.

MAYBE THERE ARE SOME OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE CAN CONSIDER.

I TELL YOU WE ARE HIGHLY INVESTED IN THIS ONE OPTION WITH GARLAND AND SOME OF THESE OTHER LOCAL CITIES.

IT WAS A REGIONAL PARTNERSHIP HERE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER MARGOLIS: ONE LESS QUESTION, THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS, CAN'T REMEMBER IN THE MIDYEAR BUDGET DECISION, I THINK WE PUT SOME MONEY IN BATTERY BACKUPS FOR TRAFFIC SIGNALS, IS THAT AN ALTERNATIVE OPTION FOR TRAFFIC SIGNALS INSTEAD OF GOING OUT WITH THE A-FRAME STOP SIGNS OR USING TEMPORARY SIGNALS? GARY IS THERE AND IT MIGHT BE A

QUESTION FOR HIM. >> SPEAKER: GARY IS THERE AND I

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THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT ABOVE. >> SPEAKER: WE DIDN'T ORDER THE BATTERY BACKUP AND THE SIGNAL WILL RUN ON A SMALLER GENERATOR AS WELL. THAT WOULD RECHARGE THE BATTERY, THE BATTERY BACKUP GIVES YOU ABOUT EIGHT HOURS IN RESPONSE TIME TO GIVE YOU THE MOBILE GENERATORS OUT AND WE ALREADY PURCHASED A FEW OF THOSE AS WELL WITH THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET TO PREPARE FOR A MAJOR INTERSECTION.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER MARGOLIS: WITHOUT AN ALTERNATIVE IS THE PRICE THE SAME FOR A BATTERY BACKUP SYSTEM.

>> SPEAKER: A BATTERY BACKUP WILL BE MORE EFFICIENT, FOR SURE. WE DO HAVE CASH EQUIPMENT FROM THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE THEY PUT ONE MOBILE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT OUR DISPOSAL IN THE REGION IF NEED BE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER MARGOLIS: GREAT.

>> SPEAKER: IS A COMBINATION. >> COUNCIL MEMBER MARGOLIS:

THANK YOU GARY. >> MAYOR: I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE ALLOCATION FOR A GENERATOR FOR THE FIRE STATION TOO, IS THAT UP FOR THE OLD FIRE STATION? I GUESS MY QUESTION THERE IS, I KNOW AT SOME POINT WE WILL STILL BE TAKING THAT STATION OFF-LINE AND THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. WHAT WOULD THE TIMING OF THAT BE? BECAUSE, I KNOW THAT WITH THE NEWS STATION IT WILL BE ONLINE AND I ASSUME WE WILL HAVE SOME GENERATION ACCOMMODATION FOR THE NEWS STATION ESPECIALLY WITH THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER BEING THERE.

SO, I AM JUST ASKING IS THAT A GENERATOR THAT WE CAN MOVE AND REALLOCATE ONCE WE TAKE THAT OLD FIRE STATION NUMBER 2 OFF-LINE AND HOW EASY WOULD THAT?

>> SPEAKER: GARY, ARE YOU ON OR NEIL, IS THERE SOMETHING ABOUT THE GENERATOR THAT DID NOT WORK THAT WAS NOT CHARGING?

YOU REMEMBER WHAT THAT WAS? >> SPEAKER: WE HAD TO MOVE A MOBILE GENERATOR TO FIRE STATION NUMBER 2 BECAUSE OF A TRANSFER SWITCH THAT WOULD HAVE SWITCHED THE GENERATOR FROM THE REGULAR ENCORE ELECTRICITY TO GENERATOR POWER WHICH WAS INOPERABLE. IT TOOK TWO WEEKS TO GET THAT PART ORDERED AND THE GENERATORS REPAIRED.

IN THE MEANTIME WE HAD TO HARDWIRE A MOBILE GENERATOR TO THE SYSTEM TO KEEP THE COMMUNICATIONS AND HEAT UP.

>> SPEAKER: IT IS A VERY SMALL UNIT.

WE COULD LOOK INTO MOVING IT IF WE WANT TO.

>> SPEAKER: SMALL OR NOT IT IS STILL, ALL OF THESE ARE PRETTY EXPENSIVE. YOU BRING UP A REALLY GOOD POINT MARTHA AND THAT IS THAT WE WILL BE INTO THE NEWS STATION SOMETIME THIS SUMMER AND THE QUESTION IS, ONCE THAT HAPPENS WE REALLY WANT TO PUT IN THE COST FOR A NEW WHEN THERE? I DO THINK THERE ARE HIGHER PRIORITIES. IF WE WERE JUST STARTING THE ENGINEERING ON THIS ERING ON THIS THEN I THINK WE MIGHT BE IN THIS FOR A COUPLE MORE YEARS AND IT MIGHT BE WORTH

CONSIDERING. >> COUNCIL WOMAN BROWN: I WORRIED ABOUT THE TIMING BECAUSE I KNOW WE ARE PRETTY CLOSE TO PUTTING THE NEWS STATION ONLINE AND BY THE TIME YOU GET THESE DECISIONS MADE AND PURCHASES PUT TOGETHER, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE A LOT OF VALUE IN PUTTING SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE OLD STATION.

UNLESS WE CAN REALLOCATE THAT TO A NEW AREA ONCE THAT STATION IS PUT BACK ONLINE. THAT IS JUST A QUESTION I'M NOT TRYING TO SECOND-GUESS ANYONE BUT KNOWING THE TIMING OF THOSE TWO STATIONS. AND THEN I HAD A THOUGHT WHILE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE WATER SHUT OFF TOOLS.

SOME PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THEM OR KNOW HOW TO USE THEM AND TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEO.

MAYBE WE CAN HAVE SOME LOANER TOOLS.

THEY ARE NOT EXPENSIVE TOOLS AND MAYBE WE CAN HAVE THOSE AT ALL OF THE FIRE STATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT PEOPLE CAN GO AND BORROW THOSE TOOLS TO SHUT OFF THEIR WATER.

MAYBE IT WOULD BE A GOOD INVESTMENT TO HAVE EACH OF

THOSE AT EACH FIRE STATION. >> SPEAKER: I LIKE THAT IDEA.

IN THE MOMENT THE STORES WERE CLOSED AND YOU COULDN'T GET THERE BUT THE FIRE STATIONS ARE ALWAYS OPEN.

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>> COUNCIL WOMAN BROWN: NOT ONLY WERE THE STORES CLOSE THEY

WERE OUT OF THEM. >> MAYOR: WHEN WE WERE TURNING THINGS OFF GET ON AMAZON AND ORDER IT SO YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR HOME SO PEOPLE CAN HAVE IT. THESE TOOLS ARE NOT EXPENSIVE YOU'VE GOT TO GET IT ORDERED AND HAVE IT IN YOUR HOME.

>> COUNCIL WOMAN BROWN: THEY ARE NOT AND PEOPLE HAVE DON'T HAVE THEM, UNFORTUNATELY AND THEN THERE'S A BIG RUN ON THEM AND I'M SURE EVERYONE NOTICED THAT WITH THE PLUMBING SUPPLIES THAT THE SHELVES WERE JUST EMPTY.

JUST A THOUGHT THAT MAYBE WE CAN HAVE A FEW AT THE FIRE STATION SO PEOPLE COULD GET TO THEM.

>> MAYOR: I DON'T KNOW. WHEN YOU WATCH WHAT WE WERE DOING AND WHAT PUBLIC WORKS WAS DOING TO TURN OFF THE WATER, I DON'T INCORPORATED PEOPLE COULD HAVE GOTTEN TO THE FIRE STATION TO GET THEM. I DON'T KNOW.

>> COUNCIL WOMAN BROWN: I DON'T KNOW.

THOSE WERE MY ONLY COMMENTS. >> SPEAKER: YOU CAN TAKE A SEARCH COURSE AND WE CAN TEACH YOU HOW TO DO IT THE PROPER WAY AND YOU WOULD HAVE THE TOOL AS PART OF THE PACKET WE GIVE IT

TO YOU FOR FREE. >> COUNCIL WOMAN BROWN: WE LOVE

SEARCH. >> MAYOR: TAMMY, YOU HAVE THAT TOOL IN YOUR BACKPACK. WHY DO SO MANY GENERATORS FAIL? I DON'T UNDERSTAND. DOES ANYONE UNDERSTAND? BECAUSE WE ARE SITTING HERE SAYING THE GENERATORS ARE THE ANSWER, BUT WE DID ALL THE PREP WORK TO MAKE SURE THE GENERATORS THAT WE HAD WORKED AND WHAT PERCENTAGE FAILED? I'M SORRY, I DON'T WANT TO BRING A DOWNER ON THIS.

>> SPEAKER: THERE ARE MULTIPLE ISSUES AND I THINK GARY MIGHT

WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT A BIT. >> SPEAKER: THE GENERATOR AT FIRE STATION TO FAILED BECAUSE THE CONTROLLER.

THE GENERATOR AT FIRE STATION ONE WAS LOW ON COOLANT.HE GENERATOR AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER WAS SERVICED AND HAD A TURBO THAT WENT OUT AND IT WAS UNDER WARRANTY AND THAT WAS VERY UNPREDICTABLE BECAUSE IT WAS THE NEWEST GENERATOR.

TO HAVE A FAILURE AND LUCKILY IT WAS REPAIRED UNDER WARRANTY BUT HOW UNFORTUNATE WAS THAT? IT TURNS ON EVERY WEEK AND GETS TESTED IN THE ONE THAT SITS BEHIND ME EVERY WEEK IT COMES ON FOR 15 MINUTES. THAT WAS POOR TIMING AND

UNPREDICTABLE. >>.INDISCERNABLE]

>> SPEAKER: DIDN'T ONE HAVE ALSO A FUEL LEAK?

>> SPEAKER: THE GENERATOR AT THE POLICE STATION HAD AN OIL LEAK AND IT WAS BLOWING SMOKE. IT DID NOT FAIL.

WE PULLED THE GENERATOR OVER THERE FOR BACKUP JUST IN CASE.

IT IS A REGULAR CAR ENGINE, THAT'S HOW OLD THE GENERATOR IS HEARD IT WAS GASOLINE POWERED AND IT WAS LIKE A FORD MOTOR LEAK IN AHEAD OF VOWELS LEAK THAT WAS BURNING SMOKE BUT IT

DID NOT FAIL. >> MAYOR: I WOULD PUT THAT

GENERATOR AT THE FIRE STATION. >> COUNCIL MEMBER MARGOLIS: A FOLLOW-UP TO THE QUESTION ON THE GENERATORS, I KNOW THAT ALL THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE LIST ARE DIESEL DRIVEN IS THAT A POTENTIAL RISK DURING THE WINTER STORM OF THE DIESEL FREEZING AND HAVING TO PUT CHEMICALS IN THERE TO DEEP-FREEZE IT? OR WOULD IT BE BETTER TO GET A PROPANE OR NATURAL GAS FED GENERATOR?

>> SPEAKER: AS I MENTIONED EARLIER AS THE POWER WENT OFF THE NATURAL GAS STOP. TO BE TOTALLY DEPENDENT OF A SYSTEM THERE ARE WINTER BLEND DIESEL FUEL AND THERE IS AN ADDITIVE MUST PUT IN TO STOP IT FROM GELLING BASICALLY.

IT IS ANTI-GEL AND THERE ARE GENERATORS ALL OVER ANTARCTICA.

YOU JUST HAVE TO PUT THE CORRECT MIXTURE OF ANTI-GEL AND

WINTER BLEND IN. >> SPEAKER: AS A COMMENT, GENERATORS, THE SEWER LIFT STATIONS THAT HAD GENERATOR POWER DID THEY HAVE ANY GENERATOR ISSUES?

>> SPEAKER: THE GAS POWERED, THE NATURAL GAS POWERED ONES?

>> SPEAKER: NO. THE GENERATORS AT THE SEWER LIFT STATIONS, THE WIND HAD THEM DID THEY HAVE ANY LIFT ISSUES? B3 NO.

THEY DID NOT. >> SPEAKER: WE HAVE 10 OR 11 WITH POWER AND THEY WORK VERY WELL BUT SEVERAL OF OUR FACILITIES INCLUDING THE BRAND-NEW ONE, EACH ONE HAD DIFFERENT REASONS THAT THEY HAD AN ISSUE.

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>> MAYOR: FROM A BIG PICTURE STANDPOINT, MACRO STANDPOINT, CERTAINLY THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN DOLLARS ARE NOT NECESSARILY DESIGNATED TO GO BY A BUNCH OF GENERATORS.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. SO, I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE MADE AN ASSUMPTION THAT WE MAY GO DOWN THAT PATH WITH THOSE DOLLARS. THERE'S SO MANY NEEDS IN THIS COMMUNITY. I WANT TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE ARE NOT PLANNING FOR 100 YEAR EVENT, OVER PLANNING FOR 100 YEAR EVENT. THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER WAYS THAT WE NEED SOME OF THESE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN DOLLARS USED. I SAY THAT CAUTIOUSLY.

EMERGENCY PREPARATION IS IMPORTANT BUT WE ALSO NEED TO BE VERY RESPONSIBLE WITH THESE FUNDS.

B3 WHERE THE SEWER LIFT STATIONS ARE INVOLVED, I AM IMPLACABLE ABOUT IT I THINK IT'S THAT IMPORTANT.

SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS LIKE ALL OF OUR FACILITIES THAT DON'T HAVE IT MADE A QUICK WIRE CONNECTS IS THE WAY TO GO.

IN CITY HALL, DURING THAT EVENT FOR IT TO HAPPEN TO BE CLOSED WITH THE SHUT DOWN BECAUSE OF LACK OF POWER WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OUR TECHNOLOGY PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE.

YOU DON'T WANT THE ANIMAL SHELTER NOT HAVING POWER OR THE POLICE BUILDING NOT HAVE A POWER, SOME OF THE BUILDINGS NEEDED TO BE CLOSED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE GOING IN IS OKAY. IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES IF WE COULD WIRE UP TO THE QUICK WIRE CONNECTS WHICH WAS ABOUT $100,000 TO DO THOSE FACILITIES, THAT IS A LOT CHEAPER THAN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO PUT IN PERMANENT GENERATORS. I STILL THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT AND WERE NOT MAKING THAT DECISION TONIGHT BUT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE RCC BECAUSE BOTH THE TORNADO IN THIS EVENT COULD HAVE BEEN A PLACE WHERE WE COULD HAVE USED THEM.

>> MAYOR: IF THE RCC GETS HIT BY A TORNADO WE DON'T HAVE SHELTER. THAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW DEEP DO WE GO? DO WE DO A SECOND FACILITY? WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING I'M NOT SAYING THAT JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE VERY CAUTIOUS ON HOW WE SPEND THESE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN DOLLARS. IN FEMA, I IMAGINE WE HAVE SOME FEMA REIMBURSEMENT CAPABILITIES IN ALL OF THIS?

>> SPEAKER: YES. FROM THE STORM EVENT THERE IS SOME COST THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR TO GET REIMBURSEMENT. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY FUNDS ON THAT AND I THINK WE ARE STILL WORKING ON OUR ACTUAL SUBMITTALS. QUITE FRANKLY WE ARE USUALLY PRETTY FORTUNATE THAT WE GET WHAT WE ASK FOR.

I THINK ONE AREA THAT I DON'T KNOW WE WILL GET MONEY FOR IS WHERE WE HAVE ESTIMATED TO BE THE DAMAGE AS THE ROADWAYS.

PARTICULARLY SOME OF THE ASPHALT STREETS WHERE WE KNOW PIT DETERIORATED EVEN FURTHER I THAT ENVIRONMENT.

CONCRETE HOLDS UP BETTER, FOR EXAMPLE.

I DO THINK THERE ARE SOME AREAS WHERE WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET

SOME FEMA HELP. >> MAYOR: ONE MORE.

ALL OF US WERE PRETTY SHOCKED ABOUT A WEEK AGO WE GOT A NOTIFICATION, IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT? NO. ALL OF US WERE SHOCKED A WEEK AGO THAT WE GOT A NOTIFICATION TO CONSERVE ENERGY IN APRIL.

[LAUGHTER] I'M NOT EVEN SURE MOST OF THE PUBLIC EVEN KNEW THAT HAPPENS. SO, WHAT HAPPENS IN EXTREME HEAT AND THE POWER GRID GOES DOWN? THAT IS OUR BIGGER RISK RIGHT NOW THAN A WINTER STORM.

>> SPEAKER: TO YOUR POINT NEAR, THAT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR SEVERAL TIMES.T MIGHT BE STRAIGHT-LINE WINDS OR THE ICE THAT HAPPENS BUT EVERY YEAR THERE'S USUALLY A STORM EVENT THAT CAUSES VARIOUS POWER OUTAGES EVERY YEAR.> MAYOR:

UNCONCERNED ABOUT THAT. >> SPEAKER: IT IS REALLY A DIFFERENT SET OF RISKS. THE WINTER STORM, YOU'RE DEALING WITH EXTREME COLD SO, WATER LINES FREEZING AND THINGS DON'T WORK THAT NORMALLY WORK IN THE HEAT.

WITH A POWER OUTAGES TO THE ADAGE AT 105 DEGREES IS A DIFFERENT RISK. NOT GOING TO HAVE A WATER

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YOU ARE TREATING ONE SET OF RISKS FOR ANOTHER.

>> MAYOR: I'M SAYING THAT'S A BIGGER RISK FOR US RIGHT NOW IT

JUST AS A TIMING STANDPOINT. >> SPEAKER: THAT IS SOMETHING FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE AND I KNOW THAT ED IS COGNIZANT OF THAT. WE HAD EXTREME HEAT EVENTS MORE OFTEN THAN EXTREME COLD EVEN. ONE OTHER POINT THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP IS THAT NOW THAT WE HAVE A GRANT MANAGER THAT HAS A LOT OF FEDERAL EXPERIENCE, THERE MIGHT BE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES AFTER THIS FOURTH MITIGATION.

THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT TO LOOK AT AND SEE IF THERE ARE SOME FUNDS THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE RISK THAT WE HAVE FOR THE 100 YEAR STORM OR REALLY 500 YEAR STORM IS WHAT WE REALLY DEALT WITH.

THAT'S NICE TO HAVE SOMEONE ON BOARD THAT HAS THAT KNOWLEDGE.

RE-WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE HIM.

>> MAYOR: SO, 100 YEAR STORM, 500 YEAR STORM, PANDEMIC, EF4,

I MEAN! >> SPEAKER: TEXAS IS THE STATE THAT HAS EVERY SORT OF DISASTER EXCEPT FOR A TSUNAMI.

[LAUGHTER] BE TOO STOP IT! SPEAK TO THE BIGGER THING IS THAT ED NEEDS TO STOP HAVING EXERCISES BECAUSE EVERY TIME HE HAS WHEN WE HAVE AN EVENT LIKE

THAT. >> MAYOR: YOU KNOW -I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO TALK. I KNOW WHAT THE NEXT EXERCISE IS. ANYTHING ELSE COUNSEL? ALL RIGHT.

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