Jun 07, 2022 City Council Work Session

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

[2. EXECUTIVE SESSION (5:15 P.M.)* Times listed are approximate]

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AND WEAR BACK IN THE WORK SESSION. WE GOT ONE COMMENT. THERE'S NO COMMENT

[3A. Joint Work Session of Senior Advisory Board and City Council. (30 minutes)]

COUNCIL, DOES ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? >> ALL RIGHT. THEN. WE'RE

GOOD TO GO. WE HAVE THE CHAIR, LIEUTENANT WILLIAMS? >> I SEE.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE CONCLUDED THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND ARE BACK IN THE WORK SESSION. THERE WAS NO ACTION ON ITEMS 2-A, I'M GOING TO

>> THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD, WE HAVE OUR VICE CHAIR, SUSAN BELL IS NOT HERE, SHE HAS A HEALTH PROBLEM. WE HAVE, GUYS, RAISE YOUR HANDS, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME OUT. WE HAVE VIRGINIA DENSON, ALBERTA REESE, WE HAVE TINA CLARK. CHERYL SMITH IS OUT FOR HEALTH PROBLEMS. WE HAVE SHARON CUZAR AND DIANA LIBERANCE, AND PAMELA BELL IS OUR LIAISON AND SHE COPES US GOING. OKAY. SO, THAT'S THAT WE HAVE. YOU COULD GO AND HIT THAT FOR THE PEOPLE THERE. I'M VISUALLY

CHALLENGED, SO I'LL LOOK AT MY NOTES. >> DID YOU CALL YOUR

PORTION OF THE MEETING TO ORDER? >>> OKAY. I'M GOING IT CALL

MY PORTION OF THE MEETING TO ORDER. >> .

[LAUGHTER] >> IT'S 5:42. >> ALL RIGHT. OKAY, SO, THE MISSION OF THE SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD IS TO GENERATE PUBLIC AWARENESS OF AND SUPPORT FOR SENIOR CITIZEN'S CONCERN SHALL AND TO PROVIDE TOES CITIZENS WITH INFORMATION OF INTEREST TO THEM AND OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES. THE BOARD SHALL REPRESENT THE INTEREST THE SENIOR CITIZENS AND SHALL SPONSOR, CO-SPONSOR AND RECOMMEND FOR RUMS, PROGRAMS AND SERVICES FOR SENIOR CITIZENS THAT ARE DESIRED IN THE CITY. THE SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD SHALL PROPOSE AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL CONCERNING MATTERS OF IMPORTANCE TO THE SENIOR CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF ROWLETT, AFTER EVALUATING RELEVANT ISSUES, RECOMMENDATIONS WILL BE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR ACTION. THIS ROLE IS ADVISORY IN NATURE. THE BOARD SHALL INCLUDE A CHAIR PERSON, VICE CHAIR AND BOTH ELECTED ANNUALLY FROM AMONG IT'S MEMBERS AND THE ADVISORY TO THE STAFF LIAISON TO THE BOARD SHALL BE APPOINTED BY THE CITY MANAGER. THE BOARD MEETS ON THE THIRD MONDAY AT 10:00 A.M., EVERY MONTH. THE BOARD HAS SEVEN VOTING MEMBERS AND THREE ALTERNATES. WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT YOUR GOALS FOR 2021-2022. WE OFFER FREE SEMINARS WE PLAN AND HOLD A HEALTH FAIR AND WE'RE RESEARCHING AND HOLLING A RESOURCE FAIR, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE BUT WE'RE GOING TO HOLD A RESOURCE FAIR THIS YEAR IN SEPTEMBER. WE RESEARCHED SENIOR-FRIENDLY SERVICES.

NOW, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT OF THESE BECAUSE THIS IS A MAJOR PROJECT

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WE HAD SOMEONE COME OUT AND DO A PRESENTATION ON UNDERSTANDING ALZHEIMER'S, AND HOW THE SENIOR CITIZENS CAN PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM VARIOUS SCAMS, SENIOR CITIZENS ARE OFTEN TARGETED FOR SCAMS. WE HAD GREAT SUPPORT FROM THE FOLKS AT DART, THEY HAVE COME OUT AND EXPLAIN HOW THE DART SYSTEM WORKS. ROWLETT IS ONE OF THE OUTSTANDING COMMUNITIES IN TERMS OF USING A DART SERVICE CALLED GOAL LINK.

ROWLETT IS USING THAT SERVICE PROBABLY MORE THAN ANY OTHER PLACE IN THE DALLAS AREA. WE'VE HAD FOLKS TALK ABOUT HEALTH AND FITNESS FOR SENIORS. WE HELD A HEALTH FAIR SEMINAR IN SEPTEMBER 2022, HAD 42 VENDORS COME OUT AND WE'RE WORKING ON PUTTING OUT THAT RESOURCE FAIR IN SEPTEMBER 2022. ANOTHER THING THAT WE'VE ACHIEVED THAT'S BEEN VERY BENEFICIAL TO THE SENIORS IS THE DART DAY PASS PROGRAM. NOW, WHAT THIS IS IN THE CITY OF ROWLETT WE PROVIDE FREE DART PASSES TO SENIORS WHO ARE 60 YEARS-OLD AND OLDER WHO ARE RESIDENTS OF ROWLETT. AND WITH THESE PASSES PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO TRAVEL SAFELY AND CONVENIENTLY THROUGH DALLAS AREA. THEY COULD USE THESE TO GO TO SAY, HOSPITALS AND MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS, I USE IT MYSELF TO GO TO THE VA. I GET HEALTH CARE SERVICES AT THE VA, I USE THE DART AND RIDE IT FROM DOWNTOWN ROWLETT ALL THE WAY TO THE VA MEDICAL CENTER. SO, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE 2018, AND WE GIVE OUT UP TO FIVE PASSES PER WEEK FOR A TOTAL OF 15 PER MONTH. WITH THE TERMS OF COMMUNICATION, WE'VE GOT INFORMATION OUT ABOUT ALZHEIMER'S TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE DISEASE AND HELP RECOGNIZE IT AND TRY TO GET ASSISTANCE SHOULD THEY BEFALL THAT OR HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT EXPERIENCE THAT PARTICULAR ILLNESS. WE SUPPORTED CHANGES WITHIN THE CITY WEBSITE TO MAKE IT MORE SENIOR FRIENDLY. AND WE'VE RECOMMENDED DEVELOPMENT OF A SENIOR FACEBOOK PAGE. NOW, IN WORKING ON THE ROWLETT ACTION PLAN FOR THE AARP AGE-FRIENDLY COMMUNITY PLAN, WE'VE BROKEN UP INTO IT'S NUMBER OF SUBTEAMS, WE HAVE A TEAM THAT'S WORKING ON TRANSPORTATION, WE HAVE ANOTHER WORKING ON SOCIAL INCLUSION AND ALSO ON HOUSING. AND SO, WE'VE HAD THESE THREE TEAMS AND WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS, APPROXIMATELY THREE PER MONTH. SO, WE RECOMMENDED THE ACTION PLAN IN DECEMBER 2021. IT WAS APPROVED IN FEBRUARY. AND THE AARP ITSELF ALSO APPROVED THE PLAN IN FEBRUARY, 2022. RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN.

AND, THIS NEXT SLIDE HERE IS JUST EXPLAINING SOME REASONS WHY LIVABLE COMMUNITIES ARE GOOD FOR PEOPLE AND BUSINESS. THE GOAL OF LIVABLE COMMUNITIES IS TO MAKE IT SO THAT PEOPLE OF ALL AGES CAN LIVE CONVENIENTLY IN OUR COMMUNITY. ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FOR SENIORS IS THE ABILITY TO AGE IN PLACE, SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN THEIR HOMES, THAT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO MOVE TO SOME OTHER COMMUNITY AS THEY AGE. HOPEFULLY, WE'RE TRYING TO HELP THEM TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY THEIR GOLDEN YEARS RIGHT HERE IN ROWLETT.

THOSE ARE THE MAIN THINGS THAT WE'RE FOCUSSING ON. AND THEN, IN THIS NEXT

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PARTICIPATE IN THEM. >> THE NEXT SLIDE HAS DETAILS ON THOSE DART PASSES. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PARTICIPATION IN IT IN 2019. THE COVID KIND OF INTERRUPTED THE PROGRAM FOR AWHILE, PEOPLE JUST WEREN'T LEAVING THE HOUSE AND GETTING ON THE TRAINS FOR AWHILE, BUT NOW, THE PROGRAM IS COMING BACK, AS YOU COULD SEE IN APRIL, 2022, THE NUMBERS ARE COMING BACK UP. AND SO, WE'RE VERY GLAD TO SEE THAT. FOR 2022, AND 2023 WE PLAN TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SENIORS WITH EDUCATIONAL SEMINARS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, AND THE RESOURCE FAIR, OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT ON AND THAT WILL BE ONE OF OUR MAJOR EFFORTS. WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND INCREASE COMMUNICATION TO GET OUT OF WORD ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING SO MORE PEOPLE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PROGRAMS, PARTICULARLY THE GOLF CART SERVICES AT THE ROWLETT COMMUNITY CENTER, THIS IS WHERE WE HELP THE SENIORS GET FROM THE PARKING LOT TO THE FRONT DOOR OF THE ROWLETT COMMUNITY CENTER, WE'LL CONTINUE TO HELP PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS AND EVERY YEAR WE LOOK THE BUSINESSES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND COLLECT SELECT A BUSINESS THAT'S DONE THE MOST SUPPORTIVE WORK IN TERMS OF HELPING SENIORS. WE ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE VOLUNTEERS IN ROWLETT WHO HAVE DONE THINGS TO ASSIST SENIORS. AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR AARP LIVABLE COMMUNITIES ACTION PLAN, LONG-TERM, LOOKING AT SENIOR FACILITY RECOMMENDATIONS, POSSIBLY FOR THE NEXT BOND ELECTION, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SAFE ACCESS TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER, THIS IS THINGS LIKE HANDRAILS, RAMPS, PARKING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD ASK IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> COULD YOU SPEAK MORE, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE LAST SLIDE PLEASE... THE CONTINUED SAFE ACCESS TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER. HAS THERE BEEN DETAILED DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, WITH REGARDS -- I MEAN, IS THERE NOT HANDRAILS, I'M

TRYING TO REMEMBER, ARE THERE NOT HANDRAILS THERE? >> WELL, IF YOU VISUALIZE WALKING INTO THE COMMUNITY CENTER, YES, THERE ARE HANDRAILS SOME PLACES, BUT THERE ARE PLACES WHERE THERE'S REALLY NOTHING. YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT COMING AROUND THE CORNER FROM AROUND THE OTHER SIDE, COMING FROM THE DIRECTION WHERE KING'S KINGDOM IS, THERE'S NOTHING THERE FOR TO ASSIST A SENIOR. YOU'RE JUST KIN OF, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO PAY ATTENTION, YOU'LL BE OKAY. BUT, I COULD SEE WHERE A TIME WHERE IF THERE'S NO PARKING AVAILABLE, ON THE SOUTH, LET'S SAY ALL THE PARKING IS FILLED UP, THERE'S NO HAHNDY CAPPED PARKING, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU GOT DO THAT, YOU GOT TO WALK BACK THAT WAY. SO, THE GOLF CART THING HELPS A GOOD DEAL BECAUSE THAT'S THE SITUATION WHERE THE GOLF CART DRIVERS CAN STEP IN. BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO EXAMINE.

>> I WONDER IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO TO THE BACK OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER, MAY BE THAT'S SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO SEE MORE

DETAIL OF THE ADDITIONAL CONCERN. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: ANY

OTHER QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE ONE, YES. YOU SAID THE MAGIC WORDS, AGING IN PLACE. DO YOU HAVE SPECIFIC IDEAS ON WHAT THE COUNCIL MAY BE ABLE TO DO TO

HELP SENIORS TO AGE IN PLACE? >> WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE THE COUNCIL WORK WITH BUILDERS, BECAUSE IN THE DESIGN OF HOMES, IF YOU DO

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BEDROOM DOWN STAIRS. >> KIDS WOULD LOVE IT. >> THAT'S TRUE,

PEOPLE ARE AGING IN PLACE, THESE BECOME BIG DEALS. >> (INAUDIBLE)

>> THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR? >> FIRST OF ALL, LET ME COMMEND YOU ON MAKING THROUGH COVID WITH YOUR BOARD. I WAS SERVING ON A SEPARATE BOARD I COULD TELL YOU HOW DIFFICULT IT WAS TO DO ANYTHING, LET ALONE THE STEPS THAT YOU HAVE TAKEN OVER THE YEARS. CAN YOU TELL ME, OR MAY BE TEASE THE

CONCEPT OF THE RESOURCE FAIR? >> CAN YOU GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE OR THE PURPOSE OF IT WILL BE?

>> WELL, THE RESOURCE FAIR, IT'S IN MANY WAYS LIKE A HEALTH FAIR, BUT IT'S BROADENING WHO YOU ARE ASKING TO PARTICIPATE, RIGHT? SO IN A HEALTH FAIR YOU'RE FOCUSSING ON BUSINESSES SPECIFICALLY IN THE HEALTH CARE BUSINESS, ON THE RESOURCE FAIR, YOU'RE BROADENING THAT OUT SO THAT YOU MIGHT BE INCLUDING BUSINESSES THAT MIGHT HAVE IMPACT ON SENIORS BUT THEY MIGHT NOT BE SPECIFICALLY IN

HEALTH. SO, THAT'S THE IDEA FOR THAT. >> I LIKE THAT. THANK YOU.

MAY BE IS THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO BROADEN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN TERMS OF THE GROUP, THE FOCUS GROUP TO BE SENIORS BUT ALSO MORE THAN SENIORS, WHICH I KNOW WE ALREADY ALLOW ANYWAY, BUT, MAY BE THERE'S SOME FORM OF PARTNERSHIP WITH THE YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL TO CREATE THAT MORE DIVERSE WORKING GROUP FOR

THIS RESOURCE FAIR? >> IT'S AN IDEA. THAT'S AN IDEA WE'LL TAKE BACK FOR OUR

DISCUSSION AT OUR NEXT MEETING. >> SOMETHING THAT MAY BE

HELP PARTNER WITH Y'ALL TO HELP TO ORGANIZE IT. >> CAN I ADD ON THAT?

>> CERTAINLY. GO AHEAD. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE CHALLENGED ARCHED COME UP WITH ARE THE AREAS OF THE COORDINATOR BEING MULTIPLE GENERATIONAL.

ACTIVITIES, SO, YES, WE HAVE BRIEFLY DISCUSSED GETTING THEM INVOLVED SO THAT WE CAN EXPAND AND BROADEN THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR (INAUDIBLE)

>> THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD WAY TO HIT THAT GOAL. >> AND I THINK THE SENIORS

HAVE MET WITH THE ADVISORY BOARD, SUSAN, DID? >> RIGHT, BECAUSE WE DID GO VISIT PUBLIC BOARDS, I THINK EACH OF US WENT TO VISIT PUBLIC BOARDS AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THE SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD DID WITH THE OTHER BOARDS SO WE COULD SHARE

WAYS GOING ON. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> MAYBE JUST A PERSONAL NOTE, THANK YOU FOR THE ALZHEIMER'S EDUCATION, I'VE LOST TWO GRANDPARENTS TO ALZHEIMER'S, AND I KNOW HOW THAT IMPACTS THE ENTIRE FAMILY UNIT OVER THE COURSE OF TIME. AND SO, I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE THAT YOU ARE DOING THAT.

>> YES, I'VE GOT A GRANDFATHER GOING THROUGH IT NOW, AND IT'S GETTING PRETTY

BAD, SO. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU DO AND ALL THE WORK THAT YOU Y'ALL HAVE DONE FOR THE CITIZENS, I APPRECIATE YOU.

AND IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. >> (INAUDIBLE)

>> I'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE. >> YES. [LAUGHTER]

>> OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. >> THANK YOU:

>> AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN OUR PORTION OF THE MEETING.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT ITEM IS

[3B. Presentation regarding alignment options for the Chiesa Road Widening – Miller Road to Dalrock Road project. (45 minutes)]

WIDENING. >> OUR FIRST PERSON TO SPEAK IS MICHELLE MILLER?

>> WHAT WAS YOUR NAME. >> (INAUDIBLE) >> I BUTCHERED IT.

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>> STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU HAVE A FEW MINUTES.

>> (INAUDIBLE) >> I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT I MEAN, DURING YOUR CONSIDERATION, I MEAN, I KNOW THIS PROJECT WILL GO FORWARD, REGARD THE, BUT, IT'S BASICALLY CHANGING THE LANDSCAPE AND THE BEAUTIFUL WHOLE COMMUNITY THAT I GREW UP IN AND IT'S REALLY GOING TO EFFECT SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT STILL LIVE IN THE AREA, SO, WHATEVER WE DO WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THIS AREA MEANS A LOT TO A LOT OF PEOPLE. AND, I MEAN IT'S THEIR HOMES AND HOME FRONTS WILL BE DISTURBED AND SOME OF THEM TAKEN AWAY. AND, SO, DURING THE PROCESS, IF WE COULD JUST I GUESS, CONSIDER THE BUSINESSES. I MEAN, BECAUSE I GREW UP ON CHIESA ROAD AND WHEN THIS PROJECT COMES THROUGH, THERE'LL BE NOTHING LEFT OF WHERE I GREW UP. IT'S PEOPLE'S HOMES AND LIVELIHOODS, AND I WANTED YOU TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WITH YOUR DECISIONS. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: THE NEXT COMMENT IS FROM METHEL MILLER SR.

>> SO YOUR SENIOR AND WE HAVE JUNIOR. >> .

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: SO, SENIOR, THEN, STATE YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE AND YOUR

NAME FOR THE RECORD. >> I'M (INAUDIBLE) SENIOR, 1925 CHIESA ROAD. I KNOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THE LOOKS OF MY PLACE, BUT I'VE BEEN THERE 55 YEARS. I'VE SEEN IT COME A LONG WASTE. I STARTED STAYED OUT OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY, SINCE I TURNED 80, I GOT, YOU KNOW, I NEED TO BE ON THIS

ADVISORY BOARD. >> . [LAUGHTER]

>> AMEN AGAIN. >> BUT, THE PROJECT LIKE, I SAID, IT'S GOING TO GO ON ANYWAY, BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE CHANGES MADE, ONE AND TWO AIN'T GOING TO WORK, YOU GOT A THREE AND THE SIMPLEST OPTION IS TAKE THE MEDIAN OUT AND GIVE ACCESS TO THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THE WAY IT'S SET UP NOW, THERE'S NO ACCESS. I COME OUT OF MY PLACE, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY AROUND MILLER ROAD TO GET OUT. WHEN I COME BACK IN, THE SAME THING. SO, IT'S JUST, I KNOW THAT YOU COULD MAKE MIRACLES BUT PENCILS DON'T WORK WITH WHEN YOU MESS WITH THE LIVELIHOOD OF THE PEOPLE. YOU NEED TO TAKE INTO THE CONSIDERATION OF THE PEOPLE ALREADY THERE.

TO WHERE YOU COME DOWN THERE AND DO YOUR THING THAT YOU WANT TO DO NOW. BECAUSE, WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE THIS EVER GOT THIS FAR. BEFORE THE PRELIMINARY PLAN WAS DRAWN UP, WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. NOW YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND ALL THAT MONEY FOR THE PRELIMINARY PLAN. WHICH, I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO HEAR IT IF THEY DO WHAT YOU TOLD THEM TO DO. TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION (INAUDIBLE) TAKE THE MEDIAN OUT, FOUR LANES, PUT 5-FOOT SIDEWALK ON THE CURB, YOU GOT IT. IT'S THE SIMPLEST

THING THAT WOULD WORK. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: THANK YOU, SIR. AND THEN WE HAVE ERIC WESLEY, STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE FOR THE RECORD.

>> GOOD EVENING COUNCIL, ERIC WESLEY I LIVE AT 4019 QUINCY STREET. BUT I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF A FAMILY THAT'S BEEN THERE 60 PLUS YEARS AND RAISED 14 KIDS. THIS IS MY BROTHER-IN-LAW WHO LIVES THERE NOW. TIMOTHY WILLIS, WIFE TO WESLEY, SHAGS THE BABY. 14 KIDS (INAUDIBLE) JUST A FEW QUESTIONS TONIGHT THAT HOPEFULLY YOU WILL CONSIDER AND THAT WE CAN MAY BE GET AN ANSWER TO. THAT WERE SENT IN BY THE FAMILY.

FIRST THING THEY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HAS A SURVEYOR BEEN, I GUESS APPROVED TO LOOK

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WILL THE CITY PUT HIM IN A PLACE OR PROVIDE HIM FUNDS TO FIND A PLACE WHERE HE'LL BE ABLE TO LIVE, YOU COULD SEE HE HAS A DISABILITY, SO, THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. THAT SAID, WE ALL KNOW HOME VALUES ARE SKY ROCKETING RIGHT NOW.

THAT PROPERTY WE DO KNOW IS LIMITED COMMERCIAL. SO, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LOOKED AT AS RESIDENTIAL, LIMITED COMMERCIAL WILL BE HIGHER, WILL HE HAVE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO LIVE AND FUNCTION PROPERLY? THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

AGAIN, HOME VALUES ARE NOT WHAT THEY WERE EVEN FIVE YEARS AGO. SO WHAT THE CITY MAY DECIDE OR WANT TO OFFER, NEEDS TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. NEXT

QUESTION. >> . >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: I JUST

LOOKED AT THE SCREEN, SORRY. >> SORRY, YOUR TIME IS UP. >> OH, IT'S UP.

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: HOW MANY MORE QUESTIONS DID YOU HAVE? SORRY.

>> JUST TWO MORE. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: I'M GOING TO LET YOU ASK THOSE

TWO MORE. >> I APPRECIATE THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> SECOND QUESTION, WHEN THE RELOCATION OFFERS DO COME, IS THERE A TIMELINE FOR WHEN THEY WILL RECEIVE THAT, AND HOW MUCH TIME WILL THEY HAVE TO TRY AND RELOCATE FROM THE PROPERTY, THAT MAY TAKE TIME, WE ALL KNOW, WE SEE THE NEWS, PEOPLE ARE PUTTING IN BIDS ON HOMES AND THEY'RE GOING QUICKLY AND THEY'RE HAVING A HARD TIME FINDING A PLACE TO LIVE. SO WE NEED TO GET SOME TYPE OF A RESPONSE TO THAT. LAST THING I WOULD SAY, IS, THE FAMILY'S REQUESTING A REASONABLE TIMEFRAME, YOU KNOW, ONCE ALL THIS BEGINS, WE DID GO TO THE SESSION ON JUNE OR MAY 9TH, SO WE SAW THE DIAGRAMS AND EVERYTHING, AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE JUST SUPPOSED TO START ON MILLER ROAD, SECTION FIRST, SO, A GOOD TIMEFRAME WOULD BE WOULD DEFINITELY HELP AND IF THERE ARE CHANGES TO THOSE TIMEFRAME, THAT NEEDS TO BE COMMUNICATED TO ALL OF THESE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THAT CHIESA ROAD. BECAUSE, SOMETIMES PROJECTS GO FORWARD AND THEN TIMEFRAMES CHANGE AND THAT NEEDS TO BE COMMUNICATED IN A TIMELY FASHION. AGAIN I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THESE FAMILIES, 60 PLUS YEARS, THEY ALL KNOW EACH OTHER BECAUSE THEY ALL GREW UP WHEN THERE WAS NOTHING OUT THERE. SO, THEY WERE THE COMMUNITY OF ROWLETT. AND NOW THEY'RE BEING DISPLACED BECAUSE THEIR HOMES ARE GOING TO BE GONE.

>> AMEN. >> SO, DO CONSIDER THAT AND IF THERE'S ANYWAY THAT WE COULD KEEP A DIALOG GOING. I KNOW THAT YOU ARE ALL HERE TO HEAR WHAT THE DEVELOPERS SAY, AND IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS THERE'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER SESSION TO DECIDE WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE. THE VOTER'S OPTION IS MAKING THEIR HOMES ON CHIESA ROAD

UNLIMITED. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: ALL RIGHT, THAT'S IT FOR OUR

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THAT WE ARE READY FOR THE PRESENTATION? >> GOOD EVENING, AGAIN, MAYOR, COUNCIL. SO, I WANTED TO PRESENT TO YOU OUR SUMMARY OF THE CHIESA ROAD ALIGNMENT OPTIONS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT. LET ME START WITH THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT. IN MAY OF 2018, THE VOTERS APPROVED AS PART OF THE BOND ELECTION, $12.5 MILLION FOR WIDENING THIS ROADWAY. IN MAY, ON MAY 21ST, OF 2019, COUNCIL APPROVED A TASK AUTHORIZATION TO HIRE (INAUDIBLE) TO DESIGN THE ROADWAY. THAT WAS FOR $.9 MILLION. OCTOBER 6TH OF 2020 AT A WORK SESSION, CITY COUNCIL EXPRESSED THEIR PREFERENCE OF THE THREE OPTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED THEY EXPRESSED THEIR PREFERENCE FOR A FOUR-LANE, DIVIDED ROADWAY WITHIN A 90-FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE DALLAS COUNTY MAJOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM OFFERED TO CONTRIBUTE $2.5 MILLION TOWARD THE PROJECT AND IT SHOULD BE NOTED, THOUGH, THAT THAT MONEY WILL BE DISPERSED BY THE COUNTY AFTER CONSTRUCTION IS SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE. SO, LET ME TALK ABOUT THE TWO ALIGNMENT OPTIONS, WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON THIS AREA OF THE ALIGNMENT, THE REST OF THIS IS FAIRLY WELL SET. BUT THIS IS WHAT'S UNRESOLVED. OPTION 1 WOULD BE TO ACQUIRE RIGHT-OF-WAY ON THE NORTHSIDE OF THE ROAD. SO THAT THE SOUTH RIGHT-OF-WAY LINE WOULD COINCIDE WITH WHAT EXISTS TODAY. THE OPTION 2, IT WOULD BE TO ACQUIRE RIGHT-OF-WAY ON BOTH SIDES, THE NORTH AND THE SOUTHSIDE OF THE ROADWAY AND THIS WILL STRADDLE THE EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY AND PROPERTIES ON BOTH SIDES WILL BE IMPACTED. A VIEW OF OPTION 1 WHICH IS THE NORTH SIDE OPTION, THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS EXPANDED APPROXIMATELY 40 FEET TO THE NORTH. YOU COULD SEE, I THINK, THERE WE GO, THIS IS THE PROPOSED RIGHT-OF-WAY LINE, THIS YELLOW, THE WHITE IS EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY, IT'S ABOUT 50 FEET CURRENTLY, AND THE NEW RIGHT-OF-WAY WOULD BE 90 FEET AND SO THERE'S ABOUT A 40-FOOT EXPANSION. ON THE OPTION 2, ANOTHER VISUAL, YOU COULD SEE AGAIN, THAT THE YELLOW REPRESENTS THE PROPOSED RIGHT-OF-WAY, IT'S STRADDLING THE EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY HERE, AND AGAIN, IT'S 90 FEET, SO WE'RE TALKING ROUGHLY 20 FEET ON EACH SIDE, GIVE OR TAKE. WE DID ALSO LOOK AT A THIRD OPTION THAT HAS MESCURB IN IT, BUT DUE TO THE WAY THE GEOMETRY WOULD WORK, IT WD NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR SUCH A ROADWAY CLASSED AS IT IS, WHICH THOSE MINIMUM RDI ARE A THOUSAND FEET AND THE GEOMETRY DID NOT WORK THAT WAY TO THAT ALTERNATIVE IS

NOT VIABLE. >> JEFF, HANG ON, GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE. COUNCIL ASKED FOR THAT OPTION TO BE EVALUATED SO, THE GOAL WAS ON THE SOUTH SIDE, SOME OF THE HOMES WERE FURTHER TO THE WEST, OBVIOUSLY ON THE NORTH SIDE, THEN YOU HAVE THE TWO RIGHT ON THE CORNER, SO, THE GOAL WAS COULD WE DIP IT DOWN IN AN S FOR MAT THERE AND NOT ACTUALLY HAVE TO PICK UP HOMES. THAT WAS COUNCIL WHO ASKED TO DO THAT. AND ONCE THE EVALUATION WAS DONE, THOUGH, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT YOU COULD NOT ACHIEVE THAT AND STILL MEET OUR CODE AND EVEN, YOU KNOW, THE RECOMMENDATION TO USE FROM (INAUDIBLE) SO THAT'S NOT VIABLE, BUT, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNEW THAT COUNCIL WAS THE ONE THAT ASKED US TO DO THAT

EVALUATION. >> SO, SOME BASIC FACTS THAT I WANT TO GO OVER BEFORE I LOOK AT THE ALIGNMENT CONSIDERATIONS THEMSELVES, MASTER THOROUGH

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ON THE NORTH SIDE THERE ARE 13 PROPERTIES ON THE NORTH SIDE THERE ARE 10 PROPERTIES. ON THE 1 AND 2, ALL THE 13 PROPERTIES WILLED BE IMPACTED BY THE WIDENING, FOR OPTION ONE, THOUGH, NO PROPERTIES ON THE SOUTH SIDE WOULD BE IMPACTED WHEREAS IN OPTION 2, 10 PROPERTIES WILL BE IMPACTED. ALSO, ZONING DISTRICT C-1 EXTENDS FROM DALROCK APPROXIMATELY 415 FEET WEST, I BELIEVE THAT COME PRIZES FOUR PROPERTIES, THE REMAINING NINE OF THOSE NORTHERN PROPERTY ARE ZONED SF-8 WHICH IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. ALL THE 10 PROPERTIES ON THE SOUTH SIDE ARE ALSO ZONED C-1 LIMITED COMMERCIAL RETAIL. OF THE 13 PROPERTIES ON THE NORTH SIDE, FOUR ARE DEVELOPED WITH HOMES. AND, ON THE SOUTH SIDE IT 10 ARE -- SORRY, OF THE 10 PROPERTIES

FOR OUR (INAUDIBLE) >> SO, OF THESE HOMES, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE 13 PROPERTIES AND FOUR OF WHICH HAVE HOMES, WE HAVE STRUCTURES AT 1901 AND 1905 CHIESA ROAD, THOSE ARE OCCUPIED HOMES WITHIN THE C-1 ZONING DISTRICT, THESE ARE LEGALLY NONCONFORMING PROPERTIES AND STRUCTURES BECAUSE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES ARE NOT ALLOWED IN C-1. THEY'RE LEGALLY NOT CONFORMING. STRUCTURE ON CHIESA ROAD, IT TOO IS LEGALLY NONCONFORMING THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S PROPERTY GEOMETRY DOES NOT MEET THE MINIMUM LOT ASSOCIATED WITH FFA ZONING AND THERE'S AN UNOCCUPIED HOME AND THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL DECLARED THAT TO BE A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY'S INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE AND THERE ARE EFFORTS UNDERWAY TO BRING THAT STRUCTURE INTO COMPLIANCE. NINE OF THE 13 PROPERTY ARE UNDEVELOPED, AND NONE OF THOSE PROPERTY ARE PLATTED. OF THE 10 SOUTHERN PROPERTIES, AGAIN, FOUR ARE DEVELOPED PROPERTIES AT 1914, 1926, 1928, AND 1930 CHIESA ROAD, ALL HAVE OCCUPIED HOMES.

THESE HOMES ARE LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING BECAUSE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES ARE NOT ALLOWED IN C-1 ZONING. NONE OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE PLATTED. SO, NOW LET ME SUMMARIZE SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ALIGNMENTS, I THINK OF PRIMARY IMPORTANCE ARE THE DRIVEWAY CONNECTIONS. CURRENTLY, ALL THE DRIVEWAYS, ALL THE HOMES ON CHIESA ROAD ARE CONNECTED DIRECTLY WITH ALL THE HOMES ARE CONNECTED TO CHIESA ROAD WITH DRIVEWAYS. WHEN CHIESA ROAD IS RECONSTRUCTED AS A SECONDARY THOROUGHFARE, DIRECT DRIVEWAY CONNECTIONS WOULD BE CONSIDERED DANGEROUS ROAD CONDITIONS. THE ROWLETT DEVELOPMENT CODE DOES NOT ALLOW DRIVEWAY CONNECTIONS TO SECONDARY AND PRIMARY THOROUGHFARES. SO, OPTION 1 WOULD MINIMIZE THE

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AND SO, THIS WOULD LIKELY REMAIN AN OPEN SPACE WHICH COULD PROVIDE A BUFFER TO THE LAKE CREST THREE AND FOUR ADDITION WHICH LIES NORTH OF THE ROADWAY.

HERE'S THE OPEN SPACE AND THAT WOULD PROVIDE A BUFFER WHICH ADDS TO THE LIVABILITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH IS A STRATEGIC PRIORITY OF THE CITY. AGAIN, OKAY. WE DID HOLD TWO NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, ONE ON MAY 9TH, AND ONE ON MAY 23RD, AT THOSE MEETINGS, STAFF EXPLAINED THE NEED FOR THE PROJECT. WE DESCRIBED THE THREE OPTIONS, TWO OF WHICH ARE VIABLE AND I'VE SUMMARIZED THOSE TONIGHT.

WE DISSEMINATED HANDOUTS AND PROVIDED CONTACT INFORMATION AND PROVIDED INFORMATION ON HOW TO STAY INFORMED, AND WE ALSO PROVIDED INFORMATION ABOUT THESE KEY CITY COUNCIL MEETING DATES AND THAT'S WHY WE SEE ALL OF THESE PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT, WHICH IS FANTASTIC. DURING THAT MEETING, UM, WE MADE OURSELVES AVAILABLE TO MEET AND DISCUSS WITH THE ATTENDEES IN A ONE-ON-ONE BASIS, AND, WE'VE ALSO SET

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TELEPHONE AND E-MAIL AND AT THE MEETINGS. >> THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED LET ME SUMMARIZE THAT, SOME OF THE MEMBERS HAVE EXPRESSED A LACK OF TRUST IN THE CITY TO MEET THE RESIDENTS' NEEDS.

MANY OF THE COMMENTS SEEMED TO FOCUS ON DRAINAGE. BUT, I'VE HEARD OTHER ISSUES TONIGHT. RESIDENTS WERE ALTS CONFUSED ABOUT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION PROCESS, ABOUT WETHER OR NOT PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD BE COMPENSATED FAIRLY AND HOW THE GOVERNMENT HAS THE AUTHORITY TO CONTROL PRIVATE PROPERTY. SOME RESIDENTS ARE WORRIED ABOUT WHERE THE MEDIAN BREAKS WILL BE PLACED WHILE OTHER RESIDENTS FAVOR A CENTERED TURN LANE RATHER THAN A MEDIAN AT ALL. PROPERTY ACCESS ISSUES WERE ALSO A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION. WE ALSO HEARD ABOUT BIKE LANES THAT ARE REQUESTED.

AND, UM, THEY ALSO EXPRESSED SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE LARGE BEND ALONG THAT RAILROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY WHEN IN THE PAST, VEHICLES HAVE RUN OFF THE ROADWAY, DAMAGING PRIVATE PROPERTY. AND, MEMBERS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS WANTED TO ENSURE THAT INFORMATION IDENTIFYING THEIR PROPERTIES ALONG CHIESA ROAD IS CORRECT AND UP-TO-DATE SO AS TO PROPERLY SHOWCASE THEIR FAMILY LEGACY IN THE AREA. SO, I WANT TO DISCUSS SOME FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THESE OPTIONS. THESE ARE

ROUGH NUMBERS, THEY'RE ONLY ESTIMATES. >> FOR THE SAKE OF THE

PUBLIC THAT ARE HERE, WE HAVE NOT DONE APPRAISALS? >> WE HAVE NOT DONE APPRAISALS YET, THAT IS CORRECT. AND AS A MATTER OF FACT APPRAISAL FEES ARE

INCLUDED IN THIS PRESENTATION. >>> SO, OPTION 1 WOULD NECESSITATE THE ACQUISITION, THE PURCHASE OF NINE AT LEAST PARTIAL LOT PROPERTIES. THAT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE FOUR HOMES, FOUR HOUSES, PURCHASING THE FULL LOT AND THE HOMES THEMSELVES, AND, THESE, AGAIN, I WANT TO STRESS THESE ARE ESTIMATES. THE ESTIMATES THAT I RECEIVED FROM OUR RIGHT-OF-WAY AGENT DEALT WITH SQUARE FOOTAGE AND PRICES, SQUARE FOOTAGE PRICES AND I HAD TO ESTIMATE ON WHAT I THINK MIGHT HAPPEN, BUT UNTIL WE DO THE APPRAISALS AND GO THROUGH THE NEGOTIATIONS, THE TYPES OF ACQUISITION ARE REALLY NOT KNOWN AT THIS TIME. SO, FOR THE ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTIES AND THE APPRAISALS, OPTION 1 LOOKS LIKE IT COULD COME IN AT AROUND $1.6 MILLION. OPTION 2 IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, WE MAY NOT NEED TO PURCHASE THE HOMES, ALTHOUGH, THAT MAY NOT ACTUALLY -- IT MAY TURN OUT THAT THE REMAINDER DAMAGES BASED ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AGENTS APPRAISALS AND ASSESSMENTS MAY EFFECT THIS CALCULATION. BUT, LOOKING AT 10 PARTIAL LOT PROPERTIES, UM, WITH THE APPRAISAL FEES, THE COST FOR OPTION, I APOLOGIZE, I SEE AN ERROR IN MY SLIDE, IT SAYS OPTION 1, BUT THIS IS REALLY OPTION 2, THE NORTH AND SOUTH RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION AND THAT COMES IN AT $1.2 MILLION. SO,

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YOU MAY HAVE. >> A COUPLE OTHER THINGS REALLY QUICK. THERE'S NO DEVELOPER ON THIS PROJECT, THIS IS A CITY-SPONSORED PROJECT, WE'RE IN ESSENCIOUS THE DEVELOPER, CONTRACTOR, OWNER OF RECORD. SO, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S CLEAR. OBVIOUSLY, THE APPRAISALS HAVE NOT BEEN DONE, AND IN PART, THE CHALLENGE TO A PROJECT LIKE THIS IS TO GET COUNCIL CONSENSUS AND BUY-IN AS TO WHAT THE ALIGNMENT WOULD BE, AND ONCE WE HAVE THAT, WE KNOW WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE WHICH IS TO DO THE APPRAISALS THERE'S A WHOLE PROCESS FOR THAT. WE HAVE, IN THIS CITY WE'VE DONE THIS FOR MANY MANY YEARS. THE STATE HAS GUIDELINES, OR LAW, ACTUALLY, ABOUT HOW THE PROCESS WORKS. WE WOULD FOLLOW THAT PROCESS TO THE TEE. I WILL TELL YOU THAT WHEN YOU TAKE UP HOUSES, THOUGH, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR RELOCATION ASSISTANCE. SO, JUST BE AWARE OF THAT. SO, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TO CLEAR UP SOME OF THIS RIGHT OFF THE BAT BEFORE GETTING INTO

Q & A. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: SO, I'LL KICK IT OFF WITH A QUESTION, THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF A THIRD OPTION, OTHER THAN THE (INAUDIBLE) THAT INCLUDED ELIMINATING THE MEDIANS. AND SO, WHAT -- IF WE WERE TO ELIMINATE THE MEDIANS, WOULD THAT ELIMINATE ANY NEED TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY WITH OCCUPIED HOMES?

>> I BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD, BECAUSE YOU STILL NEED A TURN LANE. AND SO, YOU IT STILL NEED A 90-FOOT WIDTH. IT'S ESSENTIALLY A 5-LANE ROADWAY, WETHER OR NOT THERE'S A MEDIAN THERE. I THINK THAT THE ISSUE ABOUT THE MEDIAN IS MORE ABOUT

ACCESS THAN RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION. >> SO, IT'S ABOUT RIGHT TURNS FROM THE NORTH SIDE AND THEN LEFT TURNS OUT FROM THE SOUTH SIDE. SO, AGAIN, FROM 109-FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY TO A 110-FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY, TO 90-FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY, YOUR RIGHT-OF-WAY DIMENSIONS REMAIN THE SAME. IT DOES NOT IMPACT OR REDUCE THE

IMPLICATIONS OF THE ACQUISITION. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: SO, YOU

SAID THAT THERE WOULD NEED TO BE TURN LANES. >> A CENTER TURN LANE.

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: A CENTER TURN LANE? >> IF YOU ELIMINATE THE

MEDIAN, YOU HAVE THE CENTER TURN LANE. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: BUT DOES

THERE HAVE TO BE? >> UM, FOR CHIESA ROAD, FIRST OF ALL, WE ARE RECEIVING MCIP ASSISTANCE WITH THIS PROJECT. I'M NOT 100% CLEAR ON THE TERMS OF THAT ASSISTANCE, BUT, I DO BELIEVE THAT IT WAS BASED PRIMARILY ON CREATING ANOTHER ARTERIAL ROADWAY FROM DALROCK UP TO MILLER AND UP TO LLAKE VIEW PARKWAY AND IF YOU DON'T PUT IN A TURN LANE, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE THAT.

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: OKAY. AND I JUST WANTED TO COVER THAT, THIS IS A DIFFICULT DISCUSSION TO HAVE. ANYTHING THAT INVOLVES TAKING HAVING TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY, ESPECIALLY PROPERTY WITH OCCUPIED HOMES. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT MISSING AN OPPORTUNITY OF A PATH TO NOT HAVE TO ACQUIRE OCCUPIED PROPERTY. THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT UP THAT OPTION. I ASSUME THERE'LL BE

ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. >> I HAVE A FEW. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: OKAY, GO

FOR IT. >> I'M NEVER QUIET. SO, LOOKING OPTION 1, YOU SAID IF WE WENT WITH OPTION ONE WHICH IS KEEPING THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE IN TACT, WHAT IS THE DEPTH OF THAT GREEN SPACE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROADWAY?

>> BEYOND THE RIGHT-OF-WAY? >> BEYOND THE RIGHT-OF-WAY? >> IT VARIES. I HAVEN'T MEASURED IT, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S MORE THAN THE 40-FEET THAT WE WOULD NEED.

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MOST OF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE 100 PLUS FEET DEEP. >> AND THAT'S THE LEADING QUESTION, BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED THAT THE THURE ROWFARE PLAN HAS AT PRESENT A 110-FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY. IF WE'RE IN THE UNENVIABLE POSITION OF TAKING A PROPERTY ON THE NORTH SIDE IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE 110 FEET AVAILABLE TO US IN THAT

AREA? >> THAT IS TRUE. I MAY HAVE TO LEAN ON SOME OF

THIGH STAFF AND CONSULTANTS HERE WITH THIS. >> IT'S ALSO A LEAD QUESTION, TOO, BECAUSE ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HEARD FROM OUR CITIZENS HERE WHO WOULD BE LEFT IN TACT IN OPTION 1 IS TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF THEIR PROPERTIES, THOSE FOUR HOMES AND BEING ABLE TO MAKE A LEFT TURN, IF YOU WILL, ONTO CHIESA ROAD, WHERE I LIVE, WE ALL DEPEND ON THE MEDIAN ON ROWLETT ROAD TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A LEFT TURN. IF WE HAVE A 110 RIGHT-OF-WAY, THAT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A WIDER MEDIAN. IF WE EVENTUALLY NEED THAT IN 10 OR 20 YEARS AND GIVING THOSE PEOPLE THE

STUDENT TO SAFELY TRAVERSE THEIR DRIVEWAYS. >> THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, I DO KNOW THAT THERE WERE I DO KNOW WHEN THE OPTIONS WERE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL, BACK ON OCTOBER 6TH, IT WAS YOU KNOW, THE ORIGINAL CONFIGURATION OF A 6-LANE AND THERE WAS A FOUR-LANE DIVIDED AT 90 FEET AND FOUR LANES DIVIDED AT 80 FEET. AND THE 110 WASN'T WORKING BECAUSE OF THE ACQUISITION NEEDED MORE NORTH AND WEST. AND, I DON'T THINK IT WAS CONSIDERED TO VARY THE

RIGHT-OF-WAY IT WAS LOOKED AT AS UNIFORM. >> I KNOW AS A CITY WE SUFFER FROM THE SHORT SIGHTEDNESS WITH THE WIDTH OF OUR ARTERIAL RIGHTS OF WAY, AND I WOULD HATE FOR US TO MAKE THAT MISTAKE IF WE COULD CORRECT THAT IN THIS AREA, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE ADDITIONAL COSTS IN THE REALIGNING OF THE ROADWAY.

HE WOULD BE CAUSING A GREAT DEAL MORE IMPACT. >> WE COULD LOOK AT THAT.

>> SO... >> HAVE I MISSED SOME OF THE ADDRESSES ON THE SOUTH

SIDE, I HAD 1426, 30 -- AND WHAT WAS THE OTHER? >> SOUTH SIDE, 1914, 1926,

1928, AND 1930. >> AND 2110. >> 2110?

>> WE'LL DOUBLE CHECK IT AND MAKE SURE. >> YEAH.

>> DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? >> I HAVE ONE REMAINING QUESTION, YOU MENTIONED A BIT AGO, THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT THE CURVE AS YOU'RE COMING SOUTH, PEOPLE RUNNING OFF THAT CURVE, THERE ISN'T AN EXISTING HOME HERE, I

THINK THERE'S A HOME AT 1934 IS THERE NOT? >> OH, 30.

>> OKAY. >> 34, I BELIEVE IS VACANT. >> OKAY. YEAH. SO,

(INAUDIBLE) >> WHAT ARE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO TO ALLEVIATE THAT

CONCERN? >> THERE ARE ENGINEERING FEATURES THAT WE COULD LOOK

AT TO HELP MITIGATE THAT YES. >> AND IF WE DIDN'T DO THE SHIFT TO THE NORTH TO DO THE 110-FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY DOES THAT CREATE PROBLEMS AT THE

INTERSECTION AT DALROCK ROAD? >> I DON'T BELIEVE SO, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T CREATE ANY ADDITIONAL PROBLEMS. YES. WE STILL HAVE

MODIFICATIONS. >> I FIGURED. (INAUDIBLE) >> (INAUDIBLE)

>> OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> WILL THE RESULT OF THIS BE CHIESA ROAD BEING ELEVATED IN ANY WAY? OR ARE IT ESSENTIALLY BE ON THE

GRADE IT'S ON NOW? >> IT WILL BE LOWER ACTUALLY.

>> THAT'S UNDETERMINED AT THIS POINT, HOWEVER, I WILL SAY THAT CHIESA ROAD IS A

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>> THERE WAS SOME CONCERN EXPRESSED ABOUT IF THERE WAS A MEDIAN THERE THAT THEY COULD NOT GO THEY COULD NOT MAKE A U-TURN, WOULD THERE BE A SECTION IN THAT MEDIAN

THAT WOULD ALLOW LIKE -- >> WE HAVE NOT YET DETERMINED THE LOCATION OF THE MEDIAN BREAKS, BUT, YES, THERE WOULD BE MEDIAN BREAKS.

>> OKAY. SO THAT ADDRESSES THAT CONCERN. >> IT MIGHT NOT BE

NECESSARILY AT EACH DRIVEWAY, BUT THERE'LL BE. >> AS LONG AS THERE'S SOMETHING WHERE THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO GO DOWN ALL THE WAY DOWN THE ROADWAY.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> YES. >> THE QUESTION WAS

ANSWERED THAT THEY DID NOT DO APPRAISALS YET. >> YES.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE RESIDENTS COMING OUT. DO YOU GUYS HAVE HISTORY OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. DID THIS NEIGHBORHOOD USE TO HAVE A NAME? DOES IT HAVE A NAME NOW? DOES ANYBODY HAVE A LOT OF THAT 60 PLUS YEARS OF

HISTORY FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? >> I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE, AND MY FATHER WAS UPROOTED ONCE BEFORE ACROSS THE TRACK IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE, WE WERE UPROOTED FROM THERE TO WHERE WE ARE NOW. SO, THIS WILL BE THE SECOND

TIME FOR US TO BE MOVED. >> ARE YOU ON THE SOUTH SIDE OR THE NORTH SIDE, SIR

IN >> I'M ON THE SOUTH SIDE. I'M 2110 IS ON THE SOUTH,

2110, 2114, AND (INAUDIBLE) >> NORTH SIDE. >> (INAUDIBLE)

>> YOU'RE ONE OF THOSE FOUR HOMES ON THE NORTH SIDE? >> YES, I'M TURNED AROUND.

>> THAT'S OKAY, I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHICH ONE. >>

>> WAS THERE ANY RESEARCH DONE ON THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT AREA? WAS THAT AN AREA THAT WAS KIND OF UNRECOGNIZED IN ROWLETT'S HISTORY?

>> SO, SPECIFIC TO THIS AREA, NO, WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO BUILD A STORY LIKE PUTTING THE PIECES OF A PUZZLE TOGETHER AS IT RELATES TO THE COMPREHENSIVE STUDY, NOT RELATED TO SOME LANDMARKING OR HISTORIC PRESENTATION. BUT BEYOND

THAT, WE HAVE NO DEFINITIVE STUDIES ON THAT. >> WELL, I THINK THAT YOU'VE GOT THE HISTORY SITTING HERE. YOU KNOW, AS THE MAYOR SAID AND AS EVERYBODY SAID, THIS IS NEVER AN EASY DISCUSSION, IT'S NEVER AN EASY DECISION, IT'S EXTREMELY HARD WHEN YOU HAVE A GROWING CITY LIKE WE'RE IN, AND, YOU HAD MENTIONED IN YOUR COMMENTS IT'S LIKE WE KNOW THIS PROJECT IS COMING, IT'S LIKE, HOW DO WE BE, AS HOW I LOOK AT IT IS HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE IMPACTING WILL BE FAIRLY COMMUNITY COMMUNICATED WITH, AND COMPENSATED AND HELPED WITH THEIR RELOCATION. AND THAT'S NUMBER ONE ON THE LIST. BUT, REALLY, SEEING THAT YOU ALL ARE HERE AND THERE WAS HISTORY THERE I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT PROBABLY DON'T KNOW IS HOW DO WE INCORPORATE INTO WHAT DOES EVENTUALLY GET BUILT, SOME TYPE OF REMEMBRANCE THAT TALKS ABOUT WHAT THAT WAS. AND WE DO THIS A LOT IN THE COMMUNITY THAT I LIVE IN, WE HAVE HISTORICAL SIGNS OR MONUMENTS, EVEN IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S NOT THERE, IT REPRESENTS WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD USED TO BE WITH HISTORICAL MARKERS, I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE COMMENTS WAS A BIKE PATH, I TOTALLY AGREE, WITH BRIAN, THAT YOU SHOULD TAKE ALL THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT YOU COULD GET. IT ALLOWS YOU TO PUT IN MAY BE A POCKET PARK IN THE CORNER WHERE YOU COULD

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>> THAT WOULD BE >> THE BLUE STRIP? >> YES, THE BLUE STRIP.

>> AS A PARK? >> YES. >> I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE WITH MATT, I THINK, OUR GOAL AS A CITY HAS TO BE THAT ANYONE AFFECTED BY THIS IS MADE NO WORSE OFF THAN THEY ARE TODAY. AND IF POSSIBLE, THEY'RE MADE BETTER OFF THAN THEY ARE TODAY. I GUESS, I KIND OF THINK IT BUILDS TRUST. THERE IS A NEED, THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED BITY NORTH TEXAS COUNCIL AND GOVERNMENT, FOR THIS PROJECT. SO, THIS PROJECT DOES NEED TO HAPPEN, IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN A WAY THAT EFFECTS PEOPLE POSITIVELY. SO WHATEVER WE COULD DO. I LIKE THE IDEAS THAT YOU GUY ARE KICKING OUT. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO GET A SCRIBE OUT HERE TO INTERVIEW SOME PEOPLE. AND I LOOKED AT DEB WHEN I SAID THAT.

>> . [LAUGHTER] >> SO WE CAN CAPTURE THIS HISTORY AND DOCUMENT IT AND IMMORTALIZE IT. I SUSPECT THIS AREA DID PROBABLY HAVE A NAME AT ONE TIME. MAY BE ASK THE RESIDENTS, WHAT THEY REMEMBER WHAT THE AREA WAS

CALLED. >> WELL, JUST NORTH OF PAUL PLACE, I REMEMBERED WE HAD

SOMEBODY ON RDIC THAT WENT TO THAT SCHOOL. >> IT WAS A BLACK ONLY

SCHOOL? >> YES. >> BACK IN EARLY 2 THOUSANDS, BEFORE IT WAS TORE DOWN. BUT, I WAS TOLD A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE HOMES THAT WERE THERE AND ARE THIS ACTUALLY WENT TO THAT SCHOOL. SO, THAT'S ANOTHER

REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE OF HISTORY ASSOCIATED WITH... >> ABSOLUTELY. AND ONE OF THE REASONS, IF I MAY, COUNCIL, THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WAS TO ENGAGE AND START TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS AND HAVE THIS DIALOG WITH YOURSELVES AS WE START TO TALK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAMS AND WHAT OPPORTUNITIES ARE AVAILABLE WITH REGARDS TO A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE OFTEN TALKED ABOUT LOBBED MARK RESEARCH, AND WE WILL HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS BUT WE WANTED TO HAVE AUDIENCE WITH YOURSELVES AS WELL BEFORE WE EMBARK ON SOMETHING LIKE

THAT. >> AND THIS TIES IN WITH WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ABOUT HAVING THE HISTORICAL INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC ON THE WEBSITE. AND, POSSIBLY ABOUT THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, HAVE SECTIONS FOR THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AS

WELL. >> (INAUDIBLE) >>

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS PERTAINING TO THE

REALIGNMENT? >> I'LL SAY SECOND ONLY TO TAKING CARE OF THESE RESIDENTS IS PUBLIC SAFETY. AND WITH BOTH OPTIONS 1 AND 2, UM, I THINK THERE'S, WITH OPTION 1 THERE'S A BETTER OPPORTUNITY FOR A BETTER PUBLIC SAFETY SITUATION THAN THERE IS WITH OPTION 2. AND I RECOGNIZE THAT OPTION 2 IS JUST REALLY HAMMERS THE INGRESS AND EGRESS OF THESE HOMES AND I THINK THAT WE WOULD BE DOING A DISSERVICE IF WE DIDN'T TAKE ALL OF THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN MAKING THIS DECISION AS

WELL, THAT'S A HUGE CONSIDERATION. >> OKAY. THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS RAISED DURING CITIZEN'S INPUT REGARDING TIMELINES.

>> I WAS GOING TO ASK IF Y'ALL CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH THAT GENTLEMEN THERE TO

ANSWER HIS QUESTIONS AND COPY COUNCIL. >> COMMUNICATION DISTRIBUTION LIST OF FOLKS. I THINK THAT FOLKS SIGNED UP AT THE PUBLIC MEETINGS,

RIGHT? >> THEY DID. THERE WAS A SIGN-IN.

>> SO, IF ANYONE DIDN'T GET THAT, THEY COULD STILL GET AHOLD OF YOU GUYS?

>> YES. AND WE HAVE A RECORD OF ALL THE ATTENDEES. >> THE COMMENTERS.

>> BUT, I THINK, REAL QUICK, I MEAN, LONG-TERM TIMELINE, WE'RE STILL ON,

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>> IT'S PROBABLY THREE YEARS BEFORE WE EVEN GET -- >> I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING

TO BE THREE YEARS. >> AGAIN, COUNCIL, ONCE WE HAVE DIRECTION ON WHAT ALIGNMENT THAT YOU ARE FAVORING, IF I COULD USE THAT WORD, IT GIVES US A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO DETERMINE HOW WE COULD WORK BACKWARDS FROM THAT PROJECT FINDING THE PROGRAMS AND SEQUENCE THAT TO THEN DETERMINE WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR CONTRIBUTION IN TERMS OF GRANT FUNDS AND WHAT ARE THE DEADLINES AND THE TERMS TO THAT AND THEN HOW CAN WE WRAP UP OUR CONVERSATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY TO BUILD THE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE TO DETERMINE WHERE WE CAN AND WHAT ARE OUR LANDMARKING OPPORTUNITIES AND WHAT CAN WE DO IF WE LOOK AT THE NORTHERN OPTION WHICH YOU COULD SEE STAFF IS FAVORING AT THIS POINT, IS TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF DO SOMETHING WITH THAT AND ALSO SAFETY IS KEY FOR US TOO. SO, WE ABSOLUTELY HEAR OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR COUNCIL TOO. BUT IF WE HAVE A BETTER CONSENSUS ON ALIGNMENT, WE'RE ABLE TO BUILD THAT ROAD MAP FOR YOU.

SITTING HERE, I'M ENABLE TO CATEGORICALLY STATE WHAT THAT COULD BE.

>> YOU HAVE THE BIG PICTURE, YOU HAVE THE ACQUISITION, AND ALL THE NEGOTIATION THAT HAPPENS THERE, YOU HAVE ENGINEERING, YOU HAVE BIDS, YOU GET THAT TONIGHT, AND THEY WILL MOVE FORWARD, WE'RE STILL, 16-18, WORSE CASE SCENARIO, 24 MONTHS AWAY. AND I BRING THAT UP TO YOUR POINT, THE BOLOS AREN'T SHOWING UP TOMORROW. WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK AND THIS IS THE FIRST STEP AND HOPEFULLY THIS RAMPS UP THE COMMUNICATION WITH YOU AND YOUR BROTHER AND YOUR BROTHER-IN-LAW AND FAMILY AND ALL OF THE HOMEOWNERS THERE THAT WILL BE IMPACTED.

BUT, THIS IS A WAYS AWAY. SO THERE'S TIME TO GET THERE. AND BY ALL MEANS, IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE ANSWERS THAT YOU NEED, WE'RE ALL AVAILABLE TO REACH OUT IT HELP YOU WITH GETTING SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

>> IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ONCOR-DEPENDENT WITH THIS ONE, AREN'T WE? IT LOOKS

LIKE THERE ARE LINES ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS ROAD, RIGHT? >> YES, SO THAT WILL DELAY

US ANOTHER DECADE BEFORE WE COULD GET RIGHT-OF-WAY. >> WELL, WE COULD.

>> WELL, DART MAY BE HARDER. >> THAT'S AN INSIDE JOKE.

>> IT'S A CHALLENGE. >> IF I MAY, INJECT SOMETHING ELSE, FOR THE DRIVE, ON NOT SPEAKING FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, COOK DRIVE, IT'S GOING TO BE EFFECTED, IT'S GOING TO ROLL ACROSS THE TRACKS, IT'S GOING TO BE EFFECTED.

>> COOK DRIVE IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS,

CORRECT, WHICH HAS ACTUALLY BEEN REGOOFILYED. >> IT'S ALREADY DEVELOPED, BOTH COMMUNITIES ARE ALREADY DEVELOPED. THEY COME OUT OF THERE.

>> THEY SAID THEY'RE GOING TO IDENTIFY AREAS WHERE WE WILL DO MEDIAN CUTS.

>> THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY IN AND THAT'S (INAUDIBLE). >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

>> >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: SO CAN WE GO AHEAD AND GET A CONSENSUS, THERE WAS A SUGGESTION THAT OPTION 1 IS THE BETTER SOLUTION, IS THERE ANY DISAGREEMENT WITH

THAT? >> I'M FOR OPTION 1. >> OPTION 1.

>> OPTION 1. >> OPTION 1. >> .

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: OKAY, THAT'S UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: THANK YOU FOR COMING. >> BY THE WAY, MR. MILLER, APPLICATIONS ARE OPEN FOR ALL THE COMMISSIONS, SO IF YOU WANT TO APPLY FOR THE

[3C. Discuss the scheduled issuance and sale of City of Rowlett, Texas Series 2022 General Obligation Bonds authorized in 2021, and Series 2022 Waterworks and Sewer System Revenue Bonds. (45 minutes)]

SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD, PLEASE DO. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: ALL

RIGHT, SO, HOW ARE WE ON TIME? >> (INAUDIBLE)

>> WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO DO THE NEXT ITEM. >> OKAY. SO, OUR NEXT ITEM SCHEDULED ISSUANCE AND THE CITY OF ROWLETT, TEXAS GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS AUTHORIZED IN 2021, AND THE WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM REVENUE BONDS, DOES ANYBODY

WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? >> SEEING NONE WE HAVE TERA LOPEZ WITH THE FINANCE

DEPARTMENT WITH US. >> THIS IS MARTY AND SHE'S WITH HILLTOP AND SHE'S OUR

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FINANCIAL ADVISOR. >> GREAT. >> OH, AND I'M ACTUALLY FILLING IN FOR WENDY TONIGHT, SHE HAD A FAMILY EMERGENCY COME UP AND HAD TO

GO OUT OF TOWN FOR THE DAY. >> OKAY. >> WISHING HER THE BEST.

>> SO, GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS THE 2022 GEO AND WATER SEWER BOND ISSUANCES. THE OBJECTIONS ARE TO GET THE PROJECT SCHEDULES AND WE HAVE THE PROJECT LEADS PRESENT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVECTS THE ISSUANCE AND WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW A CHANGE IN THE ISSUANCE TIMELINE TO INCLUDE THE PARAMETER BOND SALE THAT WE HAD A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

AND ON INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION TONIGHT WE WILL BE PROPOSING A

PARAMETER ORDINANCE FOR COUNSEL ADOPTION. >> IN THE 2021 BOND ELECTION, THE CITIZENS AUTHORIZED $21,785,000 IN GO BONDS. $19,499,000 OF THAT IS FOR PAVING AND DRAINAGE. AND THIS YEAR WE'RE PLANNING TO ISSUE THE $4.2 MILLION FOR THE SECOND YEAR ISSUANCE. I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT IN THE FIRST YEAR ALL OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY PORTION OF THE BONDS WAS ISSUED SO THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR WILL BE TO COMPLETE THAT PAVING AND DRAINAGE PORTION OF THE BONDS. ON THE WATER AND SEWER BONDS, OUR LONG-TERM WATER AND SEWER PLAN IS TO ISSUE $7 MILLION IN WATER AND SEWER BONDS PER YEAR TO EXPAND AND IMPROVE NOV AND TO SUPPORT GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS CALCULATED INTO THE CITY'S ANNUAL WATER RATE STUDY.

AND THIS YEAR'S ISSUANCE COVERS A PRIORITY OF PROJECTS THAT INCLUDES THE EXPANSION OF WATER AND SEWER LINES AND LIFT STATION ABANDONMENTS. I'M GOING TO STOP HER TO SEE IF ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PROJECTS THAT WE WILL BE

ISSUING THESE BONDS FOR. >> (INAUDIBLE) >> WHAT'S N; ?

>> NSLS IS NORTH SIDE STATION. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS

BEFORE MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE. >> SO, THERE WAS THAT PROJECT AND THE OTHER ONE THAT I WAS LOOKING AT, ARE THOSE RELATED TO THE COTTON

WOOD CREEK DEVELOPMENT? >> NO, THE DEVELOPER IS DOING THAT ONE.

>> ONE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION TOO, OUR RATE STRUCTURE IS BASED AROUND THE $7 MILLION A YEAR, SO, THIS REALLY HAS NO IMPACT ON THE RATES THEMSELVES. AS Y'ALL KNOW, WE LOWERED THE RATES, THE LAST THREE YEARS IN A ROW, WATER FOR TWO YEARS AND SEWER FOR ONE YEAR. THIS YEAR THAT WILL BE A LITTLE HARDER WITH THE INCREASE THAT WE SAW FROM THE WATER DISTRICT, BUT, THESE BONDS ARE BUILT AROUND THAT RATE STRUCTURE. SO, THE ESTIMATES PROVIDED BY OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS IN MAY SHOWED A TRUE INTEREST COST OF 2.33% AND AN AN NEWLY DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT OF $268,000 FOR THE GO ISSUANCE & ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT OF ROUGHLY $604,000. BOTH BONDS WILL BE ON A 20-YEAR DEBT ISSUANCE. AND, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE TRUE INTEREST COST AND ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT FOR THE GO AND THE WATER SEWER ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE AS CHANGE BASED ON

THE RATES AT THE TIME OF THE SALE. >> AND THE FUNNY PART IS EVERY YEAR WE GET THIS INFORMATION AT THE TIME, COUNCIL ADOPTS IT, AND THE INTEREST RATE IS ALMOST ALWAYS LOWER BECAUSE HILL TOP IS CONSERVATIVE, BUT THIS IS ONE YEAR THAT WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO TURN OUT. I SAW THAT TIC

AND I SAID, I HOPE IT'S NOT THAT HIGH. BUT YOU KNOW. >> (INAUDIBLE).

>> (INAUDIBLE) >> DID YOU GET EVERYTHING? >> SO, TONIGHT WE PLAN TO

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>> WHY DOES IT EXPIRE? >> THAT GIVES US LENIENTS TO LOCK IN THE DATES.

>> THIS GIVES YOU MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO MONITOR THE CONDITIONS AND STRIKE WHEN THE IRON IS HOT AND IN THE MOST FAVORABLE POSITION FOR YOU. WE TYPICALLY PUT ON A SIX-MONTH AUTHORITY STANDARD NOR AN EXPIRATION, WE'RE ADVOCATED THAT WE PRICE THE BONDS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE DUE THE INTEREST RATES.

>> HAVE WE DONE THE PARAMETER ORDINANCE BEFORE, AND IF NOT, WHY NOT BECAUSE

THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE BEST WAY TO GO ABOUT IT. >> YES, WE HAVE.

>> WE HAVE WITH. >> WE'VE DONE IT TWO OTHER TIMES BEFORE. FOR THIS

ALMOST EXACT SAME REASON. >> IT WAS DURING A RECESSION, RIGHT?

>> WELL, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PREHIGH PRESSURE RECESSION. BUT WE HAD THE SAME ISSUE AT THAT TIME, BUT ALL THE OTHER TIMES, THE MARKET'S BEEN MORE STABLE AND WE ALREADY HAD A REALLY GOOD RATING. AND SO, WE'VE GENERALLY BEEN ABLE TO PRICE THE MARKET AT THE SAME TIME. WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THAT WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY. BUT AS I RECALL, THE GOAL WAS TO PLACE THIS BEFORE JUNE 19TH IF POSSIBLY.

>> I JUST LIKED THE FLEXIBILITY. >> YOU KNOW, NOT EVERY CITY HAS THAT. UNDER STATE LAW YOU HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN SIZE AND A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DEBT OUTSTANDING TO DO THIS NEW MONEY. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL AUTHORITY TO BE

ABLE TO DO THIS BECAUSE OF YOUR SIZE AND THE CITY. >> DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS? >> IT SEEMS STRAIGHT FORWARD TO ME.

>> AND AS FAR AS THE CONSENSUS ON THE AMOUNTS AND THE PROJECT SCHEDULES, DO I

HAVE COUNSEL'S CONSENSUS ON THAT AS WELL? >> YES. OKAY. I THINK

WE'RE DONE. >> THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS ON A SHORT NOTICE, TOO.

>> YOU DID GREAT. >> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT.

[4. DISCUSS CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

>> SO, OKAY. WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ABOUT 30 MINUTES. SO WOULD YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE CONSENT AGENDA, I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE DECIDED TO PULL 7-L, SO, WHICH IS, YEAH CONSIDER ACTION FOR THE FILING CONDEMNATION PROVIDE DO YOU GOES FOR THE WATER UTILITY EASEMENTS, ANY OTHER ITEMS TO PULL FOR INDIVIDUAL

CONSIDERATION? >> (INAUDIBLE) >> FROM STANLEY POLLARD?

>> YES, AND IF WE WANT TO PULL THAT, WE CAN. >> CAN WE TALK ABOUT THOSE

HERE BEFORE? >> WE CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS HERE.

>> DO WE HAVE TIME? >> YES. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO PULL BUT I HAD A FEW QUESTIONS ON A FEW OF THE ITEMS. I DID GET AN

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>> THIS IS JUST AN INCREASE OF AN EXISTING CONTRACT. SO, THE EXISTING CONTRACT WAS ALREADY IN PLACE FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND THIS IS INCREASING THAT

AMOUNT. >> YOU SAID THERE WERE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS, BUT THE

PROJECTS WERE NOT LISTED. >> WELL THERE AREN'T ANY SPECIFIC PROJECTS, BUT WE HAD PROJECTS AND RAN OUT OF MONEY AND THIS WAS THE AMOUNT THAT WE COULD DO. SO

WE CAME BACK FOR THE REST OF >> IT'S A BLANKET. LOOK AT IT THIS WAY, A LOT OF TIMES, THOSE COSTS ARE SO BIG THEY WOULD HAVE TOM BACK HERE EVERY TIME THEY HAD A REPAIR, SO, THIS WAY IT ALLOWS THEM TO SPEND MONEY FASTER WITHOUT HAVING TO

KEEP COMING BACK TO US. >> WELL, I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY PROJECT LIST FOR THE

ENTIRE HALF A MILLION DOLLAR. >> WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING

I'M SURE THEY COULD GET YOU. >> WE COULD PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT.

>> (INAUDIBLE) >> NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN

WORKING ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME. WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT. >> IT'S A DEBRE QUESTION.

IT'S A PROCEEDDURAL THING. >> USUALLY WE KNOW WHEN WE START TO SEE THE WHITE AUDIO)

>> WE WERE AT SOME POINT GOING TO ADD POLICE VEHICLES TO THE TWO, BUT WE LEFT THAT CONTRACT AT THE TIME OF THE PANDEMIC WAS HAPPENING AND BECAUSE OF THE CHIP ISSUE, WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN OWL 300 PLUS VEHICLES REPLACED AT THIS TIME. WE'RE MAINTAINING THE BIG EQUIPMENT AND THE YELLOW IRON AND THAT'S UNDER OUR RESPONSIBILITY. BUT, THE BOTTOM LINE ON THIS, THE BUDGET WAS ALREADY THERE FOR

IT, THEY WERE JUST NEVER REPLACED. >> AND I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE OVERALL PROCESS, WHERE I WAS, WE DIDN'T LET A COMPUTER GO

PAST THREE YEARS. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: I THINK WHAT HE'S SAYING IS THERE

WAS AN ISSUE AND THAT'S NOT. >> BASICALLY, THERE IS A REPLACEMENT CYCLE.

>> 5 AND 3. LAURA GOT ME. >> IT'S 10 YEARS FOR FIRE EQUIPMENT, RIGHT?

>> IT DOES DEPEND ON THE VEHICLES. >> RIGHT.

>> THIS WAS STRICTLY PUBLIC SAFETY AND COMPUTERS FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY. THAT WAS MY

QUESTION. >> A LOT OF THE COMPUTERS THAT GO INTO VEHICLE ARE

REPLACED WITH A THREE YEAR REPLACEMENT. >> AND I DWEGUESS WHAT DO WE

DO WITH THE OLD ONES? >> THEY HAVE A DISPOSAL PROCESS.

>> IT'S A SECURITY THING. >> THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO PROVIDE YOU THE

DETAILS IN A PUBLIC MEETING. >> I'M JUST ASKING IF THEY'RE BEING SCRAPPED, OR

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>> SO, COMPUTERS IS A RELATIVELY SMALL PART OF THE OVERALL PACKAGE FOR A POLICE VEHICLE OR ANY OTHER VEHICLE. WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT ON VEHICLES, FOR A LOT OF YEARS, THE CITY HAD DROPDOWN STRATEGIES IN PLACE. SO, YOU BUY A NEW ONE AND AFTER TWO OR THREE YEARS IT GOES TO ANOTHER PERSON AND ANOTHER, AND ESSENTIALLY WE OVERKEEP IT UNTIL IT ESSENTIALLY DIES. BUT WE HAVE STRATEGIES IN PLACE, FOR EXAMPLE, MEDIC UNITS, WE REPLACE THE CHASSIS ONLY FOR TWO OR

THREE MORE YEARS. >> NO, IN THE PAST, WE'VE DONE IT FOR THREE YEARS, I MEAN, THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS SET UP, THEY GO UNDER RESERVE STITHE TUSS. WITH THE NEW STRATEGY WITH ENTERPRISE, THE GOAL IS TO REQUIRE THOSE VEHICLES, WE WILL NOT OWN THEM, WE WILL LEASE THEM, AND THEN THEY WOULD BE RECYCLED AT AN OPTIMAL POINT BEFORE MAINTENANCE STARTS TO BECOME AN ISSUE FOR US. AND AGAIN, THAT DEPENDS ON VEHICLES THAT COULD BE 18 MONTHS, 36 MONTHS DEPEPPENDING ON THE VEHICLE. BUT WE DON'T GIVE THEM UP UNTIL THAT TIME. THERE'S A LAYER OF STRATEGY THAT ULTIMATELY LOWERS THE COST OF OWNERSHIP OF OUR FLOAT. AND AGAIN, WE HAVE A FALSE START BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC AND THE CHIPS, TRYING TO GET THE VEHICLES IN, EVERYBODY'S FIGHTING OVER THOSE, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY GOOD PROGRAM

ONCE IT'S UP AND RUNNING. >> BUT, BRIAN, I UNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTION AND MAYBE I MISUNDER, I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE COMPUTERS THEMSELVES AND WHETHER THEY'RE COMPLETELY DESTROYED, WHICH IS ONE WAY OF MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S SECURITY OR WHETHER THEY'RE WIPED OR WHATEVER, AND THEN PUT BACK INTO SERVICE

SOMEWHERE ELSE, IS THAT RIGHT? >> YES.

>> THEY'RE NOT NORMAL COMPUTERS. >> RIGHT. THEY'RE TOUGH BOOKS AND USUALLY THEY GET SCRAPPED AND DEMOLISHED, THEY'RE BUILT SPECIAL BECAUSE OF THE HEAT, AND THEY'RE ON ALL THE TIME, 24/7, 365, SO THEY TAKE A

BEATING. >> OKAY. >> .

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: ARE WE DONE WITH THIS ITEM? >> OKAY. REGARDING THE

SAPPHIRE BASED STATION. >> SO, 7-D AND 7-E, WE RECEIVED AN E-MAIL FROM A RESIDENT MR. POLLARD, THE COST OF THE ARCHITECTURAL RENDERING AND DESIGN, THE TIMELINESS OF THIS WETHER OR NOT THAT'S NEEDED NOW OR A FEW YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AND ASSOCIATED STAFFING WITH THE STATION, THE COST OF NEW TRUCKS AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT, AND THIS IS MORE OF A COUNCIL STRATEGY DISCUSSION, CO BONDS VERSUS GO BONDS. IF YOU COULD COVER THE FIRST TWO.

>> BILL, I'LL KICK US OFF ON THIS PART OF THE CONVERSATION, BUT HE'S THE GUY WHO HAS TO ANSWER THE SAFETY ISSUE. BUT I DO WANT TO ADDRESS A FEW OTHER

THINGS. >> THIS IS A BIGGER QUESTION ABOUT YOU ADDRESSING A CITIZEN'S E-MAIL, I THINK THAT'S FINE, AND IF WE'RE GOING DO THAT, I THINK WE SHOULD DO IT IN REGULAR SESSION, LET'S JUST PULL IT FROM THE CONSENT

AGENDA. >> WE CAN DO IT HERE. >> I AGREE, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO ADDRESS, IF IT'S A QUESTION THAT YOU HAVE, I THINK IT'S FINE TO ADDRESS HERE, BUT IF YOU'RE TRYING TO ANSWER THIS TO ADDRESS A CITIZEN'S INPUT THAT CAME IN

ONLINE, THEN I THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO IT THERE. >> I TEND TO AGREE.

>> THESE ARE NOT QUESTIONS I NECESSARILY HAVE, BECAUSE I'VE SPOKEN WITH CHIEF

HOWARD ON THESE THINGS. >> THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE, THIS IS A TIME TO SAY, OKAY, I HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT THIS, THAT MEANS, I'M OKAY VOTING FOR THAT. THIS SOUNDS LIKE IT'S MORE FOR THE PUBLIC, WHICH YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT, SO, IF IT'S FOR THE PUBLIC, THEY COULD STILL BE WATCHING BUT THEY MAY HAVE TUNED OUT. DO YOU

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WANT TO PULL BOTH OF THOSE? >> I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> I SAY WE PULL BOTH OF THOSE AND DO A QUICK PRESENTATION IN FULL

COUNCIL. >> ONE PRESENTATION FOR BOTH ITEMS. IS THAT OKAY?

>> I DIDN'T MEAN TO JUMP ON YOU, BUT I SAW WHERE YOUR QUESTION WAS GOING AND I

JUST THINK THERE'S A BETTER SPOT FOR IT. >> SURE.

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: ALL RIGHT, WE'LL WAIT UNTIL 7:30 TO START

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.