Oct 18, 2022 City Council Work Session

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: ALL RIGHT, IT IS TUESDAY, OCTOBER 18TH, AT 5:30 AND WE'RE AT CITY HALL AS AUTHORIZED BY SECTION 551001 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE THIS MEETING SHALL BE CONVENED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION ON ANY AGENDA ITEM HERE IN. THE CITY OF ROWLETT. INFORMATION AND PROVIDING PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THE MEETING CAN BE FOUND ON THE POSTED AGENDA ON THE CITY'S

[3A. Presentation on the status of the Capital Improvement Program]

AND JEFF COHEN WILL BE PRESENTING.

>> DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM?

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: YEAH, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM,

LAURA? >> NO, SIR.

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: OKAY. NO SPEAKERS. ALL RIGHT.

>> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO, THIS IS AN UPDATE ON THE BOND PROGRAM, COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM WHERE THINGS STAND RIGHT NOW. SO, I'M GOING TO TRY AND BE BRIEF. I'VE ONLY GOT A FEW 30-MINUTES AND I WANT TO GIVE YOU TIME FOR QUESTIONS. SO, I'LL GO THROUGH THIS KIND OF QUICKLY. BUT, I WOULD LIKE TO SAVE TIME AT THE END FOR QUESTIONS. SO, THE FIRST PROJECT, UM, BACK IN THE 2015 BOND IS LAKE SIDE PARK AND THE ONLY THING REMAINING FOR THIS PROJECT IS A REST ROOM AT THE LAKESIDE PARK, WE HAVE DESIGNATED A LOCATION OUTSIDE OF THE TAKE LINE IN THE PARK. BIDS WERE RECEIVED MORE THAN A YEAR AGO THAT WERE ABOUT TWICE THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE. SO, THE BIDS WERE REJECTED. COUNCIL, BACK IN APRIL AUTHORIZED THE PROJECT TO BE REBID WITH ALL OF THE UTILITIES INCLUDED AND THE PLANS ARE NOW AT 95% COMPLETE.

THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS PURCHASED A MODULE REUSSROOM BLOWING, SO, THE FUNDING CHALLENGES ARE FROM THE 2015 BONDS, THE $470,000 WERE ALLOCATED TO THIS PROJECT.

WE'VE SPENT ALL OF THAT INCLUDING THE MODULAR BUILDING FOR THE REST ROOM. SO, THE PROJECTED COST TO INSTALL THAT PLAYING AND THE UTILITIES ARE APPROXIMATELY $130,000. THAT REPRESENTS A SHORTFALL, SO, WE THINK THAT WE COULD USE UNUSED FUNDS FROM OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE CAN COMBINE AND GET THE RESTROOM FUNDED. AND ALSO FROM 2015 AND AGAIN, IN 2021, THE ENTER CONNECTER, THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN IS PROCEEDING TO 90% AND WE'RE CURRENTLY STUDYING THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT. COUNCIL SELECT ADD BRIDGE DESIGN AND A LIGHTING OPTION. THE GRANT HELPING WITH THE FUNDING REQUIRES ENVIRONMENTAL AND THAT MAY BE THE REASON FOR DELAYS. IT AGAIN, WE HAVE FUNDING CHALLENGES WITH THIS PROJECT.

FROM THE 2015 GO BONDS, $1.03 MILLION THAT WERE ALLOCATED, APPROXIMATELY $280,000 ARE LEFT. WE DO HAVE THERE WERE, $470,000 IN STREET ESCROW FUNDS, $20,000 ARE LEFT.

THE ANTICIPATED FUNDING FOR CONSTRUCTION NOW IS FROM THE 2021 BOND, THERE'S $2 MILLION, MCIP HAS COMMITTED $1.33 MILLION, AND, THE SURSURF TRANSPORTATION BLOCK GRANT COMMITTED $14 MILLION. BUT, WE SEE THE PROJECT COST AT ABOUT 27

TO $30 MILLION. >> SO, MOVING ON TO THE 2018 COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM BOND, THIS IS THE PARK PHASE ONE. THE DESIGN SITE PLAN IS CREATED AND THE PHASE ONE

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THE CURRENT STATUS OF THIS PROJECT IS THAT THE CONTRACT WAS APPROVED AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. THE LOW BIDDER WAS NORTH ROCK CONSTRUCTION AT JUST UNDER $600,000. THE LAKE FRFRO AT PECAN GROVE PARK PROJECT INCLUDES IMPROVED PARKING SURFACE. THE KAYAK LAUNCH AREA, AND SOME PICNIC STATIONS. UM, THE CURRENT STATUS IS THAT THE BID OPENING WAS ON AUGUST 25TH, BIDS CAME IN AT APPROXIMATELY $700,000. THAT WAS A LITTLE TOO MUCH FOR OUR BUDGET. THE TOTAL ALLOCATED IN 2018 WAS $400,000.

WHICH, WAS GOING TO BE SPENT OVER TWO YEARS. SO, WE ARE TRIMMING THAT PROJECT DOWN TO ACOME A DATE THE $330,000 THAT WE HAVE REMAINING. P PROJECT A KENWOOD HEIGHTS INCLUDE IRRIGATION CONTROL, PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. AND THAT'S GOING TO REPLACE OUTDATED PLAYGROUND AMENITIES FOR AGES 2-5 YEARS, AND THERE'LL BE BENCHES TOO, AND IT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THE COMMUNITY PARK UPGRADES IS BASICALLY A SPORT'S FIELD UPGRADE AND A SQUAWK FROM THE WATER VIEW NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE PARKING LOT. THAT'S COMPLETED. SO, THE SPORT'S FIELD STILL HAS TO BE DONE. THE ANALYSIS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH SOME COMPANIES, SPORT'S FIELD SOLUTIONS AND LANDSCAPES UNLIMITED. WE'VE RECEIVED A QUOTE FOR THE YOUTH AND BASEBALL COMPLEX AND WE'RE AWAITING A QUOTE FOR THE ADDITIONAL FIELD AND THE ADULT SOFTBALL COMPLEX.

(INDISCERNIBLE) SPORT'S FIELD CONSTRUCTION AROUND THE CITY, BASICALLY, THIS IS THE HOCKEY RINK AT KADY PARK. THAT'S CURRENT STATUS IS WE HAVE A PROJECTED COST OF APPROXIMATELY $550,000. THE DESIGN AND LAYOUT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSIDERATION. AND, WE ARE LOOKING AT INSTALLATION IN T SOMETIME IN THIS FISCAL YEAR. FOR FUNDING $500,000 IN 2018 GO BONDS WERE ALLOCATED. WE HAVE SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE CAN ASSEMBLE TOGETHER. COME APPRISING ABOUT $57,000 SO, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY $557,000 AVAILABLE THAT SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO GET THE PROJECT COMPLETE. THERE WAS SOME TRAIL CONSTRUCTION THAT WERE ELECTED IN THE 2018 BOND. THOSE PROJECTS HAVE BASICALLY TO COMPLETE THE TRAIL MASTER PLAN WHICH WAS MODIFIED BY COUNCIL IN NOVEMBER OF 2021.

(INDISCERNIBLE) >> THE FOOD COURT TRAIL A TASK AUTHORIZATION WAS GRANTED IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR. THE TRAIL IS ALONG GARNER FROM FUQUA TO THE PARK IS PARTIALLY COMPLETE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DEVELOPER. THE PLANS FOR THE TRAIL ON FUQUA ARE 60% AND THE CONSULTANT IS NOW WORKING ON THE 90% PLANS AND STAFF WILL BE CONDUCTING NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME 2018 STREET AND INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. THIS IS THETHE LAKE HIGHLAND'S RECONSTRUCTION, THAT'S OVER 5,000 FEET OF STREET

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HERE ARE PICTURES OF THAT CONSTRUCTION. THERE'S ALSO A SEWER PROJECT ON THE EAST SIDE OF 66. LAKE VIEW PARKWAY PHASE ONE, WHICH YOU COULD SEE IS THE GREEN LINE THERE, ALONG LAKE SHORE, THAT WAS COMPLETED EARLIER THIS YEAR. THAT WAS ABOUT 3200 FEET OF A LARGE, 30-INCH SEWER. NOW, THE PHASE II WHICH IS THE READ LINE IS THE RECONSTRUCTION OF A 10-INCH SANITARY SEWER AND IT WILL BE AN 18-INCH SEWER. IT'S ALMOST A MILE IN LENGTH. THE DESIGN PLANS ARE ALMOST 100% COMPLETE.

WE'RE NOW IN THE EASEMENT ACQUISITION PHASE. THERE'S A SHORTFALL EXPECTED APPROXIMATELY $1.7 MILLION FOR CONSTRUCTION.

THE CITY WIDE RIGHT TURN LANE ANALYSIS. THESE ARE SEVERAL RIGHT TURNS AROUND THE CITY. UM, THERE WERE PRIORITIES STAB ESTABLISHED IN COUNCIL BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 2020. SOUTH BOUND FRONTAGE ROAD, WESTBOUND ROAD, AND THE GEORGE BUSH SOUTHBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD AT MILLER ROAD WERE THE TOP THREE PRIORITIES.

AND THEN THE SOUTHBOUND ROWLETT ROAD RIGHT TO LAKE VIEW PARKWAY AND THE WESTBOUND LAKE VIEW PARKWAY RIGHT TO NORTH BOUND KENWOOD WERE ADDED AS A FOURTH AND FIFTH PRIORITY. REMAINING LOCATIONS WILL BE DONE DEPENDING ON FUNDS REMAINING FROM THESE FIVE. SO, THE TURN LANES, THE FIRST THREE THAT I MENTIONED A TASK AUTHORIZATION FOR DESIGN WAS GRANTED TO GARBER IN FEBRUARY OF '21. FINAL PLANS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND APPROVED BY TXDOT AT THIS POINT. WE'RE NOW IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION PHASE WE'VE ACQUIRED THREE OF THE FIVE PARCELS NEEDED. WE DID EXPERIENCE SOME DELAYS DUE TO THE COMPLEXITY OF THE SIGNALIZATION AND THE TXDOT COORDINATION. THE CONSTRUCTION COST IS ESTIMATED TO BE $1.26 MILLION. THE OTHER TWO LANES, A, TASK AUTHORIZATION WAS GIVEN TO RJN GROUP IN MARCH '21.

THOSE PLANS WERE REVIEWED BY TXDOT AND WE'VE ACQUIRED RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THOSE, WE'VE GOTTEN ONE OUT OF THREE. AGAIN, FOR THE SAME REASONS, WE'VE HAD SOME DELAYS IN IMPLEMENTATION, BUT, THE PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD AND WE EXPECT THE COST TO COME IN AT ABOUT $.8 MILLION. MILLER ROAD CONSTRUCTION, FROM

DALROCK TO WEST OF CHEISA. >> COUNCIL AWARDED CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT TO TISEO PAVING IN APRIL OF '22 FOR ALMOST $12 MILLION. CONSTRUCTION BEGAN JUNE OF THIS YEAR AND WE EXPECT

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AND COUNT AUTHORIZED PRIME TIME GROUP IN SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR TO BEGIN RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION. AND THE CONSULTANT THE DESIGN CONSULTANT SHOULD BE MAKING IT 60% DESIGN SUBMISSION NEAR THE BEGINNING OF DECEMBER. WE HAVE HAD SOME DELAYS RELATING TO FINALIZING THE CROSS SECTION ALIGNMENT AND THERE HAVE BEEN RIGHT-OF-WAY IMPACTS AS WELL THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH.

ALLEYS. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ALLEY GROUPS, THIS IS THE FIRST GROUP. THIS IS A RECONSTRUCTION OF APPROXIMATELY 25002570 FEET OF PAVING BETWEEN RICE AND TULANE. AND FROM MEADOW BARK AND CHIESA. AND THIS INCLUDES THE INSTALLATION OF 1200 FEET OF STORM SEWER IN THE MEADOW LOCK ALLEY. THE STATUS OF THE PROJECT IS THAT THE TASK AUTHORIZATION WAS GRANTED TO BINKLEY & BARFIELD AND WE'RE SCHEDULED TO OPEN THE BIDS IN THIS WEEK. GROUP F IS BEING COMBINED. THIS IS GROUP F, THIS IS BEING COMBINED WITH A CONTRACT FOR THE GROUP M ALLEYS.

AND CONSTRUCTION OF ALL OF THAT IS EXPECTED TO START IN JANUARY.

AND, TAKE ABOUT SIX MONTHS. THE GROUP K ALLEYS IS THE RECONSTRUCTION OF APPROXIMATELY 1700 FEET OF ALLEYS BETWEEN (INDISCERNIBLE) AND STARBOARD TRAIL. AND FOR 460 A LITTLE OVER $460,000. CONSTRUCTION BEGAN IN JULY OF THIS YEAR. THE SCHRADE, COUSTEAU, AND STARBOARD TRAIL. AND THE CONTRACTOR DOES NEED TO SEAL THE JOINTS IN THE ALLEYS AND DO CLEAN UP. ALLEY GROUP L IS A RECONSTRUCTION BETWEEN EVA DRIVE AND LINDA VISTA COURT. COUNCIL APPROVED A DESIGN AUTHORIZATION IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR TO CPNY. THE PROJECT BEGAN ADVERTISING IN OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR. AND WE ARE SCHEDULED TO OPEN THE BIDS NEXT WEEK. CONSTRUCTION WILL BEGIN IN JANUARY AND IS EXPECTED

TO TAKE SIX MONTHS. >>> GROUP M IS A RECONSTRUCTION

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TAKE 6 MONTHS. >> ALLEY GROUP N IS A RECONSTRUCTION OF 1300 FEET OF ALLEY, THIS IS NEAR KATY PARK.

THE ALLEYS ARE BETWEEN CLYDESDALE COURT AND STARBOARD TRAIL CIRCLE. CONSTRUCTION BEGAN IN SEPTEMBER IT WAS A 90-DAY CONTRACT FOR SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION. THE ALLEY PAVING IN THE CLYDESDALE STALLION ALLEY HAS BEEN PLACED. IT IS STILL CURING AND IT HAS NOT YET BEEN REOPENED. THE OTHER ALLEY IS STILL NOT YET BEGUN WORK ON. SO, IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE RESIDENTS DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASON, WE PLAN ON SUSPENDING WORK DURING THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING, AND FOR THE SEVERAL DAYS BEFORE AND AFTER THE CHRISTMAS WEEKEND. THIS PROJECT IS THREE WEEKS BEHIND SCHEDULE BUT WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANYMORE DELAYS. THERE'S ALSO AN ALLEY CALLED TRACY TRAIL THIS RECONSTRUCTION IS A LITTLE MORE THAN A THOUSAND FEET BETWEEN TRACY TRAIL AND AN EASEMENT. THE DESIGN WORK WAS DONE UNDER THE SAME TASK AUTHORIZATION AS THE GROUP M ALLEYS. WE ADVERTISED THIS ALLEY ALSO FOR BIDDING IN OCTOBER AND ARE OPENING THE BIDS THIS WEEK. WE EXPECT CONSTRUCTION TO BEGIN IN JANUARY AND TO TAKE ABOUT TWO MONTHS.

>> SO, THE 2021 COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM APPROVED THE SAPPHIRE BAY PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY. THAT FACILITY IS LOCATED ON AN APPROXIMATELY 1-ACRE LOT DOWN AT SAPPHIRE BAY, AS YOU COULD SEE, BY THIS SLIDE, THE SCHEMATIC HAS BEGUN. AND, THEY ARE WORKING ON VARIOUS ASPECTS OF THE SCHEMATICS SUCH AS THE SITE PLAN, THE FLOOR PLAN, THE EXTERIOR ELEVATION CONCEPT DESIGNS. THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE DESIGNER AS FAR AS THE EXTERIOR FINISHES AND FINISHING THE ANTERIOR SPACES AS WELL FOR POLICE AND FIRE. ALSO, WITH THE 2021 BOND ELECTION, THE LONG BRANCH CREEK EROSION CONTROL PROJECT WAS APPROVED.

BACK IN 2019 WE ASKED HALF ASSOCIATES TO CONDUCT A ROAD LAND. THE RESULTS IDENTIFIED SOME LOCATIONS ALONG THE EASTERN BANK, I THINK THAT'S A TYPO, IT SHOULD REALLY BE THE WESTERN BANK. OR THE SOUTH WESTERN BANK. WHERE EROSION HAS BEEN TAKING AWAY AND CAUSING THE LOSS OF SOME PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO, IN 2021, COUNCIL APPROVED THE TASK AUTHORIZATION WITH HALFF & ASSOCIATES, TO DESIGN THE PROJECT, THAT DESIGN IS APPROXIMATELY 60% COMPLETE. WE HAVE HAD WET WEATHER THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR WHICH HAS HINDERED THE ABILITY OF ENGINEERING AND SURVEY CREWS TO ACCESS THE PROPERTY AND EVALUATE THE ALTERNATIVES. AND GETTING THE TECHNICAL EQUIPMENT THERE HAS BEEN DIFFICULT. BUT, THE WORK IS PROCEEDING.

>> HERE ARE SOME PICTURES OF SOME OF THE EROSION THAT'S GOING ON ON LONG BRANCH CREEK. ANOTHER CA PROJECT IS THE

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>>> THE MERIT ROAD 36 AND 30-INCH WATERLINE IS A LARGE PROJECT UP IN THE NORTH SHORE, THAT PROJECT WILL COME PRIZE 8400 FEET OF 36-INCH WATERLINE AND APPROXIMATELY 1500 FEET OF 30-INCH WATERLINE. THE TASK AUTHORIZATION FOR DESIGN TO FREES AND NICKLES WAS AWARDED IN MAY OF THIS YEAR. THEY'VE BEGUN COORDINATION WITH THE CITY OF CALLS, BECAUSE WE'RE CROSSING CITY OF DALLAS PROPERTY AND NTTA, WE'RE CROSSING THEIR ROADWAY AS WELL. CONSTRUCTION GOING TO BEGIN IN SPRING OF '23.

$10 MILLION WAS BUDGETED IN 2023 AND 2024 USING USING CAPITAL UT REVENUE BONDS, AND CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATE RIGHT NOW IS $14 MILLION. THE MARTIN DRIVE AND 66 TRAFFIC SIGNAL PROJECT, UM, IS INCLUDES THE INSTALLATION OF TRAFFIC SIGNALS WITH POLLS A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING SIGNAL ON MARTIN DRIVE AND WE'RE ILLUMINATING STREET SIGNS, INSTALLING ILLUMINATED STREET SIGNS AND INSTALLING THE ELECTRONICS AND CONTROLS. THAT SIGNAL WAS PUT INTO OPERATION EARLIER LAST WEEK AND, IT FAILED IT'S 30-DAY TEST PERIOD. SO, THE CONTRACTOR IS TROUBLE SHOOTING THE CONTROLLERS AND ALSO SOME LIGHT FIXTURES HAVE YET TO BE INSTALLED. AND THE DALROCK SOUTH CURVE IS ANOTHER CIP PROJECT, THIS IS THE NORTHBOUND LANE WHERE WE ARE CONSTRUCTING A 6-FOOT WIDE PAVED SHOULDER. WE'RE INSTALLING A STORM DRAIN AS WELL AS A METAL GUARDRAIL, AND RUMBLE STRIPS ON

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>> NO TIME FOR QUESTIONS. BUT WE'RE DOING IT ANYWAY.

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: SO, I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. UM, SO, I CAN START IT OFF OR, I GUESS I'LL START IT OFF.

>> DO YOU WANT ME TO START WITH AN EASY ONE, MAY BE?

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: WE WILL GO WITH A DIFFICULT WAONE. THE LA ONE THAT SHOCKED WE WAS THE MERRICK WATER LINE, IT HAS TO BE IN SERVICE BY 2024 AND WE DON'T HAVE A MILLION DOLLAR.

>> WHEN WE DO REVENUE BONDS FOR UTILITIES, WE HAVE A SELF-IMPOSED LIMIT OF $7 MILLION THAT WE LIKE TO SELL EVERY YEAR.

THAT, CAN INCLUDE SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT CAN BE FUNDED. WE MAY HAVE TO TAKE SOME MONEY AWAY FROM SOME OTHER PROJECTS AND PUT IT TOWARDS THIS, OR, WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT INCREASING

THE $7 MILLION. >> I MEAN, YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO

HAVE TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION. >> THOSE WOULD BE THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE. QUITE FRANKLY, I'M NOT SURPRISED SOME OF THE PROJECTS, PARTICULARLY LIKE THE (INDISCERNIBLE) CONNECTER ARE COMING IN HIGHER. YOU THINK ABOUT WHEN WE STARTED THE PLANNING FOR THAT AND HOW LONG IT'S BEEN JUST TO GET TO THIS PLACE. ALTHOUGH, ON THE ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE, AT LEAST, SOME OF THAT MAY CORRECT IF INFLATION GETS UNDER CONTROL, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING FOR CONSTRUCTION UNTIL 2027 OR BEYOND. BUT, THE WATERLINE'S GOT TO GO IN SOONER THAN THAT. SO, THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE WILL BE WE MAY END UP DOING $11 MILLION IN REVENUE BONDS NEXT YEAR OR REPRIORITIZE THE PROJECTS.

>> THE WATER LINE, DOES THAT FOLLOW THE SAME RIGHT-OF-WAY

CONNECTER? >> YES.

>> WE DON'T NEED AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY FOR

THE WATER LINE? >> NO. BECAUSE, WE ARE NOT USING STPG FUNDS, NUMBER ONE, AND NUMBER TWO, WE'RE BASICALLY

BORING UNDERNEATH AS WELL. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: AND WE THINK IF WE WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR TO MAKE THIS FINANCIAL DECISION, WHICH WILL BE 2023, THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS IN SERVICE BY THE TIME THAT WE PROJECT THAT WE NEED TO HAVE IT?

>> WE'RE STILL PROCEEDING WITH DESIGN.

>> YES. >>.

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: OKAY. IT WILL BE CLOSE.

>> IT WILL BE CLOSE, YES. BUT, I THINK IT'S DOABLE IF WE WORK

HARD AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: OKAY. IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT KEEPS ME UP AT NIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THE MILLER ROAD, ATT NOT MOVING LINES, SPECTRUM NOT MOVING LINE, WHEN ARE WE JUST GOING TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE THEM AND YOU'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH YOUR CUSTOMERS. DO WE GET TO DO

THAT? >> I DON'T KNOW. BECAUSE THEY'RE A TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND THEY'RE GOVERNED BY A STATE FRANCHISE. SO, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT. WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH CONTROL OVER TELECOMMUNICATIONS AS WE DID SAY ONCORE, AND ATLAS.

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SAY THIS PROJECT WILL BE DELAYED BY A CERTAIN NUMBER OF MONTHS BECAUSE OF THIS. WILL THAT HAVE A FINANCIAL IMPACT THE WAITING, AND WAITING, AND

WAITING. >> I DON'T BELIEVE IT WILL.

ESPECIALLY IF IT'S ONLY A FEW MONTHS, I THINK IT'S ONE OR TWO MONTHS AT MOST, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE MEETING WITH THE CONTRACTOR THIS WEEK AND WE NEED THEM TO IRON OUT THESE

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>> HAVE THEY TALKED ABOUT WHERE THEY PLAN TO PLACE THEIR BATCH

PLAN? >> SO, THEY HAVE, I DON'T KNOW THE STATUS OF THEIR GONEGOTIATIS BUT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF CHIESA AND MILLER WHICH IS VACANT SOUTH OF THE COVE THERE, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE EYEING, AND I DON'T KNOW THE STATUS OF

THE NEGOTIATIONS. >> JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE CONCRETE TRUCKS RUNNING DOWN THE OLD PPARK MILLER ROAD.

>> SO, ONE THING THAT I THINK HAS BEEN MISSING IS KIND OF A, NOT NECESSARILY A LIVE, BUT, RELATIVELY UP-TO-DATE MAP THAT SHOWS THE STATUS OF THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS. I'VE LOOKED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE ON THE CIP PAGE, I SEE TWO DIFFERENT SETS OF MAPS, ONE FOR 2021 PROJECTS AND 2022 PROJECTS 689. WE OWE IT TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THIS FINANCIALLY AND THAT'S OUR CONSTITUENTS AND TAXPAYERS. WE NEED TO SHOW THEM HOW THEIR MONEY IS BEING SPENT. IF THERE ARE DELAYS, HERE'S WHY THERE ARE DELAYS. AND IN PARTICULAR I NOTICED THERE WAS ONE FAQ DELIVERED FOR ONE OF THE DEVELOPMENTS WHICH ANSWERED A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT NEIGHBORS MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION HAPPENING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND ARE WE DOING THAT FOR ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND IF SO, ARE WE PUBLISHING IT

ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AS WELL? >> WE PLAN TO. RIGHT NOW WE HAVEN'T BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE MANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS. WE DID NOT DO THAT FOR MILLER ROAD. WE ARE, AS YOU KNOW, DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH CHIESA, DUE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACTS THAT'S HAVING. BUT, WHEN WE GET TO COUNTRY AIR ESTATE, I WOULD

LIKE TO. >> WE'VE HIRE ADD CIP MANAGER AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M GOING TO IMPRESS ON HIM

IS TO DO THAT. >> OKAY. THAT'S GREAT.

>> JUST AS ONE EXAMPLE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE YOU HAVE THE ALLEYS THAT ARE THREE OR SIX WEEKS BEHIND SCHEDULE, WHATEVER IT WAS. HAVE WE COMMUNICATED WITH THOSE RESIDENTS, LIKE, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO STOP FOR THAT PERIOD OF THE HOLIDAY SEASON SO THAT WE DON'T DISRUPT YOU, SO THAT WHEN YOU DON'T SEE WORK HAPPENING, DON'T CALL THE CITY ASKING WHY THINGS AROUND HAPPENING, HAVE WE COMMUNICATED THAT WE'RE DOING IT FOR THEIR

BENEFIT? >> I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF THE RESIDENTS IN THAT COMMUNITY. I DON'T KNOW IF

WE'VE MADE A MASS COMMUNICATION. >> JUST DOOR HANGERS FOR THOSE FOLKS SO THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

>> THAT PARTICULAR ALLEY HAS NOT BEEN CLOSED YET. SO, I THINK TOMORROW OR THURSDAY, THE DOOR HANGERS THAT WE'RE PREPARING LETTING THEM KNOW ABOUT THAT CLOSURE IS STILL TO

BE PUT OUT. >> AND THE ONE OTHER PROJECT THAT I SAW ON THE 2018 LIST WAS AND THIS MAY BE MORE OF A QUESTION FOR BRIAN. IS THE ELC MATCHING FUNDS. DID YOU PRESENT

THAT? I MAY HAVE MISSED THAT. >> SO, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE ELC? WE HAD $25,000 FOR DESIGN AND $250,000 ALLOCATED TO

MATCH KLB FUNDING. >> WE HAD DONE THE DESIGN, AND KICKED OFF THAT PART AND KRB WAS GOING TO TAKE IT AND START THE FUNDRAISING, COVID HAPPENED AND THAT FELL OFF. THAT OTHER MONEY WAS SMEFK BY ALLOCATED AS THEY RAISED FUNDING. SO, PREVIOUSLY COUNCIL SET FORWARD THE STANDARD THAT AS THEY RAISE MONEY THWE COULD IN LUMP SUM OR IN PIECES USE SOME OF THAT MONEY. WE'RE TRYING TO PHASE IT AND DO PIECES. BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD

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>> I SHOULD CLARIFY FOR PEOPLE LEARNING AT HOME THE ELC IS ENVIRONMENTAL LEARNING CENTER ON CHIESA AND DAN RICH OVER ON THE

EAST END OF TOWN. >> I WANTED TO ALSO SAY THAT I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT WE'VE PICKED UP OUR MOMENTUM IN TERMS OF GETTING PROJECTS STARTED. WE SEEMED TO HAVE DELAYED THAT AS COVID AND OTHER THINGS GOING ON. I'M HAPPY TO SEE THE MONEY APPROVED BY THE VOTERS, STARTING TO SEE THOSE PROJECTS TAKING EFFECT. AND CONGRATULATIONS. I HAVE A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS.

YOU MENTIONED THE HOCKEY RINK. LIKE WE HAD THE FUNDING FOR THAT, I RECALL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, WE JUST LEFT THE CONTRACT FOR THE CONVERSATION OF GETTING THE HOCKEY RINK IN PLACE BEFORE WE TEAR UP THE OLD. WHAT'S GOING ON THERE?

>> PHASE ONE IS PART OF THAT AND HOCKEY WILL NOT BE IMPACTED AT ALL IN PHASE ONE. I KNOW THAT THE PARKS TEAM IS WORKING WITH THE HOCKEY ASSOCIATION WHO'LL ALSO PUT IN FUNDING WHEN

THAT MOVES IN. >> I SAW THEM OUT THERE PLAYING LAST NIGHT. AND BACK TO THE ENTER CONNECTER. YOU MENTIONED 27 TO $30 MILLION IS THE REST FOR COMPLETION AND WE HAVE ABOUT 17 OR SO ON THE HOOF RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY, THAT 27-30, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE SECTION OF JACKSON SHAW IS

SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE OR NOT? >> YES. IT DOES INCLUDE THAT.

IT'S THE BEGINNING TO THE END. >> SO, ROUGHLY $3 MILLION THAT JACKSON SHAW IS BUILDING FOR US. SO, YOU COULD SHAVE $3 MILLION

OFF OF THAT. >> EITHER WAY.

>> WELL, DEPENDS ON HOW INFLATION WORKS.

>> (INDISCERNIBLE)

>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: OKAY. I GOT A COUPLE MORE. UM, OKAY. HERFURTH PARK FUNDING, DID THAT COME IN UNDER BUDGET BY HALF A MILLION DOLLAR?

>> APPROXIMATELY. >> AND LAKE FRONT CAME IN OVER

BUDGET BY MORE THAN $700,000. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: OR 300? I'M

SORRY, MY BAD. OKAY. SORRY. >> THAT'S THE BID.

>> AND THEN WE WENT AND KIND OF REVISITED THAT.

>> WE ARE REVISITING THAT. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF TRIMMING

OUT SOME SCOPE. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: SO, YOU

COULD SEE WHERE I'M GOING? >> THERE'LL BE SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE COULD DO AT HERFURTH PARK BUT WE HAVE SAVING IN OTHER PROJECTS, AARON AND ENGINEERING ARE WORKING THROUGH THIS. YOU SENT OUT A LOT OF ADDITIONAL STUFF, SO, EXTRA PAVILIONS AND MORE CONCRETE. SO, THEY'VE GONE BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD TO GET THIS PROJECT MOVED FORWARD BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL PHASES TO DO. WHILE PHASE ONE CAME UNDER BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO USE A TON OF CONCRETE THAT WE HAD FOR TRAILS. WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL STUFF, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT, DO ADDITIONAL THINGS WITH HERFURTH PARK WITH THAT ADDITIONAL MONEY. BUT, WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE OTHER PROJECTS

THAT CAME UNDER BUDGET. >> IF WE HAVE TO TAKE SOME

SAVINGS AND MOVE THAT OVER. >> THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE WORKING ON NOW, ALSO, SIMPLE THINGS LIKE TRAFFIC PLANS AND COULDN'T WE JUST CLOSE THE ROAD AT ROWLETT AT THE ENTRANCE TO RCC AND THAT TAKES AWAY SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN THAT HAS TO HAPPEN.

SO, THEY'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF THAT NOW AND REALLY TAKING IT

APART. >> MY QUESTION WAS WHAT WAS GOING TO BE TRIMMED, AND I GUESS THAT HASN'T BEEN DECIDED YET?

>> THEY HAVE NOT YET. I DON'T THINK.

>> NO, WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET.

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: WE HAVE ABOUT A $2 MILLION, A LITTLE LESS THAN $2 MILLION SHORTFALL ON PHASE TWO OF THE 66 SEWER LINE. IS THAT THE SAME SITUATION?

>> I THINK SO. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: OKAY.

>> AND, SAVINGS FROM OTHER CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT I THINK

CAN HELP WITH THAT. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: WE'RE NOT UNDER SIMILAR TIMEFRAME OF HAVING TO GET THAT IN SERVICE,

RIGHT? >> WE'RE NOT ABIDES THE SAME TIME FRAME, BUT, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT IN AS

SOON AS POSSIBLE. >> OKAY.

>> IT'S ON IMPORTANT PROJECT TO ME.

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>> UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. IT'S VERY UNDER SIZED AND SERVESES A LARGE QUADRANT OF THE CITY. AND WE SHOULD GET IT COMPLETE AT LEAST -- DID I PASS IT? SO, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WORKS. BUT, FROM LAKEVIEW SENIOR LIVING DOWN TO THE LAKE, WE CERTAINLY HAVE, THANK YOU. WE HAVE, WE HAVE, UM, WE COULD BREAK THAT OUT AND DO THAT, UM, AND THAT WOULD AT LEAST ALLOW SOME OF THAT AREA AROUND THE SCHOOL TO

DEVELOP. >> OKAY. AND THEN LAST QUESTION, RIGHT-HAND TURN LANES, I DIDN'T SEE AN ESTIMATION ON TIME, I'M SURE THAT'S BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T GO THERE BECAUSE OF LANE ACQUISITION? UM, ARE WE, I ASSUME THE PLAN IS TO WHEN THE DESIGN IS DONE, FOR ALL OF THEM TO GO AND HAVE ONE CONTRACTOR FOR ALL OF THEM. IS THAT WHY WE'RE WAITING FOR ALL OF THEM TO BE COMPLETELY DESIGNED AT THE SAME TIME?

>> I DON'T THINK WE WERE GOING TO DO IT QUITE LIKE THAT.

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: OKAY. >> MY THOUGHT WAS THAT ONE, TWO, AND THREE WOULD BE UNDER ONE CONTRACT.

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: OKAY. >> AND FOUR AND FIVE WOULD BE UNDER ANOTHER CONTRACT. AND THE REAL REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE THE DESIGN ENGINEER IS DIFFERENT. AND IT ONLY MAKE IT IS SENSE TO LET THEM PROVIDE CONSTRUCTION PHASE SERVICES ON

THEIR PROJECTS. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: OKAY.

COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? (INAUDIBLE)

>> WE HAVE FUNDING TO COMPLETE THOSE, YES.

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> I DIDN'T SEE AN UPDATE ON 66 AND DALROCK.

>> OH, THE INTERSECTION? >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: DID THEY

DELAY IT AGAIN? >> NO. THE LET DATE IS STILL MAY OF 2023. LAST I HEARD IS THERE IS ONE RIGHT-OF-WAY PARCEL THAT IS STILL IN EMINENT DOMAIN AND THAT HEARING WAS PUSHED, IT WAS THE FIRST WEEK OF DECEMBER. SO, TXDOT IS STILL GOING THROUGH

RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION. >> I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT WE DO HAVE TOUR UTILITY TRANSPLANTS IN TXDOT UNDER REVIEW.

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: ANYTHING ELSE?

>> HOW LONG DOES THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY TAKE? DO

YOU KNOW? >> SO, 2027 IS THE WORST CASE.

IF IT REQUIRES SPECIAL UM PROJECT INDIVIDUAL PERMITTING, IT COULD TAKE THROUGH THE 2027 YEAR. IF WE COULD USE A GENERAL M PERMIT, IT COULD BE SOONER.

>> (INAUDIBLE) >> .

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: WE CAN'T LET $14 MILLION GO.

>> OKAY. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> COULD WE MOVE TO 3-C, I WANT

[3C. Discuss the results of the pavement condition assessment performed by Roadway Asset Services (RAS) on all City streets and alleys.]

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: I AGREE. THEN, OUR NEXT ITEM WILL BE ITEM 3C, DISCUSS THE RESULTS OF PAVEMENT CONDITION ASSESSMENT PERFORMED BY ROAROADWAY ASSET SERVICES ON ALL STREETS AND ALLEYS. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS? DOES ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS? SEEING NONE, THE FLOOR IS YOUR'S.

>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, AND MAYOR, I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY AND PRESENT OUR RESULTS OF OUR PAVEMENT ASSESSMENT PERFORMED THIS YEAR. WE'VE BEEN DOING PAVEMENT ASSESSMENT FOR QUITE SOME TIME, BUT, I THINK WE HAVE FINALLY GOTTEN MORE SCIENTIFIC ABOUT IT. WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

HISTORICALLY, THE METHOD USED IS SAMPLING. WE WOULD DO ONE

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SO, THIS SET, IS A DATA SET THAT WE DROVE THE ENTIRE, WELL, WE DIDN'T, SCOTT'S TEAM DROVE THE ENTIRE CITY, EVERY STREET AND ALLEY, THE CAMERA VAN DRIVES EVERY FOOT AND IT'S A POINT-IN-TIME DATA SET. SO, EVERY POINT IS DONE AT THE SAME TIME. SO, THE CAMERA AND DATA IS FED INTO AN A.I. ENGINE TO DEFECT THE SURFACE DEFECTS AND IT IS A MUCH MORE OBJECTIVE MEASUREMENT. SO, PCI SCORES ARE APPLIED TO EACH SEGMENT OF ROADWAY AND ALLEY. AND WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE TO CAPTURE OUR REHAB EFFORTS GOING FORWARD SO THAT WE COULD KEEP THE PCI SCORE UP-TO-DATE, SO TO SPEAK, AS OPPOSED TO WAITING UNTIL THE NEXT TIME WE COME AROUND. AND THEN WE WILL, THIS MEETING TODAY, WE'RE JUST PRESENTING AS INFORMATION, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING. NOT ASKING FOR GUIDANCE OR MONEY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YET. BUT, KEEP THIS IN MIND. WE WILL BE COMING BACK IN BUDGET TIME OR WHEN BONDS COME UP, THIS INFORMATION WILL BE VERY HELPFUL FOR BOND DISCUSSION AND FOR OUR 2020 BUT

FOR THE FY '24 BUDGET. >>> WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN

OVER TO SCOTT. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> AND LET HIM WALK YOU THROUGH NOT ONLY HOW IT WAS CAPTURED, BUT, THE RESULTS AS WELL. THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF INFORMATION HERE SO I ASK TO KEEP THE QUESTIONS UNTIL THE END IF POSSIBLE. I KNOW, SOMETIMES IF YOU HAVE TO JUMP IN, FEEL FREE, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION TO GO THROUGH.

>> WE'LL BE HAPPY TO GO BACK. >> GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT, MY NAME IS SCOTT GORDON A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER LICENSED HERE IN TEXAS I'M THE PRESIDENT OF ROADWAY ASSET SERVICES. I LIVE IN THE METROPLEX. WE ENJOY BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS. I WANTED TO START WITH TERMINOLOGY SO THAT WE HAVE A BASELINE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. CENTER LINE MILES, THE CITY HAS 376 CENTER LINE MILES THAT YOU MAINTAIN AND OWN AS AN ASSET. THAT'S LOOKING AS IT SOUNDS DOWN THE CENTER LINE OF THE ROAD. THE PAVED AREA EQUALS A LITTLE OVER 5.3 MILLION SQUARE YARDS. IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE LANES,

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MOST OF THESE ARE ASPHALT STREETS AND CONCRETES AND ALLEYS. A FEW STREETS IN THERE, WE COULDN'T COLLECT, EITHER THEY WERE UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THIS IS A BREAKDOWN. WE HAD AN AVERAGE PCI OF 69. SO, ONCE AGAIN, WE'VE LAID THAT OUT.

THAT'S NOT MEAN LIKE WE DO IN GRADE SCHOOL OF JUST BARREL PASSING. 69 IS A HEALTHY SCORE. NATIONWIDE, AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH YOUR STAFF, A LOT OF SCORES ARE AROUND 60 TO 70 IS TYPICAL FOR A CITY. WE'LL SEE A FEW A LITTLE BIT ABOVE AND I THINK WE LOOKED AT SOME AROUND THE AREA OF THE METRO THAT WE LOOKED AT AND RANGE FROM 60 TO THE HIGHEST PROBABLY TO THE HIGH 70S, 69S HEALTHY AND I'LL BREAK THAT DOWN TO SHOW YOU WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. THE RERECONSTRUCTIONS ARE THE PCIS ARE BELOW 40. THOSE ARE THE ROADS THAT WE FEEL STRUCTURALLY ARE NO LONGER ADEQUATE. WE'LL HAVE TO TEAR THOSE OUT AND GET INTO THE BASE AND RECONSTRUCT THOSE, IT'S ONLY 8.8 MILES OF YOUR STREET, LESS THAN 3% OF THE NETWORK. HOWEVER IF YOU LOOK AT THE ALLEYS, THE AVERAGE IS LOWER AND I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT SURPRISED BY THAT NUMBER. 56 ON THE AVERAGE, THE RECONSTRUCTION PERCENTAGE OF THE ALLEYS IS 10% THAT EQUATES FOR 12 MILES. SO, IF WE START TO BREAK THIS DOWN, WE COULD PRODUCE MAPS AND LOOK HAS THE ABILITY TO DO THIS WITH THE DATA. WE COULD LOOK AT THE TABLE AND THE BREAKDOWN OF THE PERCENTAGE WITHIN EACH CATEGORY BASED ON THE PCI SCORE. SO, THE RED IS TYPICALLY WHAT YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT IN RECONSTRUCTION. BUT, THEN THE GREEN AND THE HIGHER YELLOW IS WHERE YOU HAVE OPPORTUNITY TOSS PERFORM PRESERVATION. SO, EXTEND THE LIFE AT A FAIRLY CHEAP COST RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S SMART MANAGEMENT PRACTICE TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THAT. WE CAN ALSO BREAK IT DOWN IN INDIVIDUAL STREETS AND LOOK AT THE SCORE AND THE COLOR CODING ON THE RIGHT IMAGE OF WHAT WE HAVE WITH THAT. SO, WE CAN ALSO BREAK IT DOWN BASED ON ALLEYS AND LOOK AT WHERE YOUR DECISIONS ARE IN ALLEYS AND MAPS. THESE MAP ARE GREAT BECAUSE YOU COULD LOOK AT THE COLOR CODING AND SEE THE RED AND KNOW WHERE YOUR STREETS AND ALLEYS THAT NEED RECONSTRUCTION AND MATCH THAT UP WITH THE PREVIOUS REPORT OF THAT CIP PROGRAM. SO, IF WE LOOK AT THE ENTIRE NETWORK, THIS IS STREETS AND ALLEYS PULLED IN TOGETHER AND BROKEN DOWN INTO A BIT MORE VISUAL, ONCE AGAIN, IT IS VERY HEALTHY FOR A NETWORK TO BE ABOVE 10% IN THE GOOD CATEGORY.

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THIS IS PRETTY HEALTHY FORRAL MET WORK, BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE ROADS ARE OLD. WE DID BREAK IT DOWN, BETWEEN STREETS AND ALLEYS, SO, YOU SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENCE IN YOUR STREET NETWORK WHICH IS REASONABLE. I WOULD EXPECT THIS. THIS IS WERE YOUR MOVING YOUR GOODS, YOUR COMMERCE, YOUR COMMERCIAL, MOST PEOPLE HAVING TRAFFIC THROUGH YOUR CITY ARE USING YOUR STREETS AND YOU WANT THOSE IN A LITTLE BIT BETTER CONDITION AND ALLEYS MORE FOR LOCAL USE AND TYPICALLY, ACCESS TO HOMES AND TRASH COLLECTION. SO, YOU EXPECT THOSE CONDITIONS TO BE A LITTLE BIT LOWER BUT YOU'RE WELL AWARE OF WHERE THOSE ARE. AND THIS DATA, AND WE COULD BREAK IT DOWN INTO INDIVIDUAL STREETS AND LOOK AT THE DETAILS. BUT THIS GIVES YOU MORE INFORMATION TO START MAKING YOUR DECISIONS ON. THE BREAKDOWN AND THE DISTRESS TYPES, FROM AN ASPHALT STANDPOINT, MOST OF YOUR PIE CHART IS THE BLUE AREA INDICATING WEATHERING. THIS MEANS THE ASPHALTS ARE GETTING OLD, THEY'RE TAKING A LOT OF UV RAYS AND OXIDATION, AND THEY'RE GETTING BRITTLE. USUALLY YOUR STRICTTURE'S IN GOOD SHAPE. WE CALL IT, YOU START TO LOSE YOUR BASE. AND I TALKED WITH A GUY ON AUSTRALIA, AND THEY CALL IT CROCODILE CRACKING. THAT'S WHERE YOU START TO INDICATE THAT YOU ARE STARTING TO LOSE YOUR BASE AND YOUR SUBSTRUCTURE AND SUPPORT FOR THE LOADED VEHICLES AND WE HAVE PATCHING AND RUTTING HERE. OVER IN THE CONCRETE, THE LINIER CRACKING IS THE MOST PREDOMINANT, NOT UNUSUAL THERE. ASPHALT IS MORE FLEXIBLE. SO, IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT WE DEAL WITH IN THE METRO PLAQUES OF, PAN -- METROPLEX OF EXPANSIVE SOILS. IT'S NOT UNUSUAL TO SEE A PRETTY HIGH AMOUNT OF CRACKING IN THIS REGION WITH OUR CONCRETE. THE DIVIDED SLAB IS WHERE WE HAVE MULTIPLE CRACKS WITHIN 1 SLAB. THAT INDICATING A LITTLE MORE MOVEMENT. POSSIBLY SOME VOID BENEATH THE CONCRETE AND THEN WE GET INTO PATCHING THAT WE'VE DONE AND THEN CORNER BREAK ARE WHERE WE START TO GET PROBABLE MOISTURE OR ERODING AT THE CORNER OF THE SLAB AND THEN WE HAVE SOME ISSUES AT THE JOINTS AND THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO SEAL THE JOINTS. AND SO IF WE LOOK AT MAINTENANCE REHAB AND TREATMENTS, WE LAID OUT AND TALKED TO STAFF OF WHAT TYPICALLY TREATMENTS YOU WOULD PROVIDE. AND ROWLETT, LOOKING AT BID PRICES AND WE PUT TOGETHER TABLES, SO, BASE BINGLY, WE'RE LOOKING AT ASPHALT FIRST, AND YOU COULD DO CRACK SEALING HERE. SEALING UP THE CRACKS AND THEN YOU COULD GET INTO PRESERVATION MODES WHERE YOU'RE GOING A MICRO SEAL. AND THEN YOU GET DOWN INTO THE ORANGE REGION WITH THE LOWER PCIS, BELOW 60, AND YOU REALLY NEED FOR STRUCTURE TO CARRY LOAD WITHIN THE ROADWAYS AND BELOW 30, REALLY, WE'RE GOING INTO RECONSTRUCTION. WE LOOKED AT THE BIDS AND DEVELOPED A UNIT COST AND THOSE NUMBERS WERE PUT INTO OUR MODEL TO RUN SCENARIOS AND WHAT BUDGETS LOOK LIKE. NOT AS MANY OPTIONS FOR TREATMENT THERE WITH CONCRETE. CERTAINLY AT THE TOP END FOR STREETS, I HAVE ALLEYS UP THERE TOO, BUT, I'LL COME BACK TO THAT. IN STREETS WE COULD DO THE JOINT SEALING TO KEEP THAT MOISTURE IN. YOU START TO GET EROSION AND THAT'S WHEN YOUR SLABS START

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IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING, WE'RE GOING TO SEE A CONTINUED DETERIORATION. THE NET WILL DROP IN PCI. IF WE KEEP IT AT $2.7 MILLION WE CAN MAINTAIN THE STREETS AND YOU COULD SEE THE IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE ADDITIONAL MONEYS. IF WE LOOK AT ALLEYS, IT'S GOT A DIFFERENT LOOK AT IT. AND YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE MODEL WAS RUN WITH ALLEYS AND STREETS TOGETHER. SO, WHAT HAPPENS IN THESE IF YOU LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, THE RED IS TO NOTHING, IT DETERIORATES. THE NEXT LINE THAT YOU SEE THERE IS THE BLUE WHICH IS ACTUALLY A HIGHER BUDGET OF $4 MILLION.

WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE MODEL IS IT'S TAKEN A LOT OF THAT $4 MILLION AND SPENDING IT IN YOUR STREETS AND NOT YOUR ALLEYS. SO, YOUR ALLEY'S DROPPED A RILL BECAUSE IT WAS CARRYING A DIFFERENT PRIORITY. WITH AN EXISTING BUDGET YOU SEE THAT YOU COULD CARRY YOUR ALLEYS, KEEPING THEM IN, YOU STARTED AT 56, AND YOU'LL MAINTAIN AT 55 OR 54, SO, YOU'RE

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LET MATT WRAP UP. >> THESE ARE MAINTENANCE FUNDS AND DO NOT INCLUDE BOND PACKAGES. KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AND AGAIN, THIS DATA IS JUST INFORMATION AT THIS TIME. FOR YOUR USE, AND WE'RE GOING TO USE THIS IN THE FUTURE TO HELP US GUIDE HOW WE'RE APPLYING PRESERVATION AND HOPEFULLY ADDING EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE SPEND ON STREET PRESERVATION AND WE'LL BE ASKING FOR DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL AS TO HOW WE FOUND OUR 2024 BUDGET AND GOING FORWARD. SO, WITH THAT,

WE'LL OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. >> THESE MAPS ARE AVAILABLE ON GIS ALREADY. SO, THEY'RE ALREADY UPLOADED AND WHEN YOU OPEN THE NEW GIS WEBSITE, IN BRIGHT YELLOW IT TELLS YOU EXACTLY WHAT TO DO WITH THE INTERACTIVE MAPS TO PUBLIC WORKS AND THEY'RE LIVE AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THEM CLOSE UP.

>> I'LL MENTION THAT WE'VE CAPTURED OUR SIDEWALK REPORT WITH CONDITION IS UPDATED ON GIS AND WE ADDED A SIGN LAYER TO OUR SYSTEM AS WELL. SO, NOW WE HAVE LOCATION AND CONDITION ON EVERY STREET SIGN AND REGULATORY SIGN IN THE CITY.

>> SO, YOU ALL PRETTY MUCH CAPTURED THE WHOLE CITY OF

STREETS IN 30 DAYS? >> ROUGHLY.

>> SURE SAVES MY EFFORT HAVING TO GET OUT AND WALK THE STREETS.

>> I WILL MENTION, THE ONLY IMAGES ARE SCARED ON O-- SECURD ON YOUR SERVER. THIS IS YOUR INFORMATION AND WE PROTECT THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FROM AN IMAGE STAND POINT OUT FOR PUBLIC

VIEWING. >> ONE THING THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO MENTION IS WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DIFFERENTIAL FROM THIS YEAR TO LAST YEAR, IT'S NOT LIKE THAT HAPPENED IN ONE YEAR.

IF WE'RE DOING QUADRANTS OF THE CITY, SOME OF THE REGIONS ARE 4-YEAR-OLDS, ONE ARE THREE YEARS-OLD, SOME ARE TWO AND SOME

ARE. >> AND THEY'RE NOT COMPLETELY

ACCURATE. >> RIGHT. IT'S A WHOLE

DIFFERENT APPROACH. >> SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WERE DOING, I THINK WAS GOOD INFORMATION TO HELP GUIDE US.

THIS IS WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER OUR CASE LINE. THIS IS DATA.

IT'S POINT-IN-TIME. IT'S ACCURATE. AND SO, I THINK THIS IS WHAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO USE GOING FORWARD TO HELP US MAKE DECISIONS. I THINK WHAT WE WERE DOING BEFORE, AGAIN, NOT TO SAY IT WAS NOT USEFUL, BUT, TO LOOK AT THAT DROP, I DON'T THINK YOU COULD READ TOO MUCH INTO THAT T% BE HONEST WITH YOU.

>> YOU MAY REMEMBER THE OLD COMMERCIAL, "IS IT LIVE OR IS IT

MEMOREX?" >> THIS IS LIVE. (INDISTINCT

CHATTER) >> SO,

>> SO, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT SHOWED THE PCI PERCENTAGE AND THE STREET PCI? IT'S, QUITE A WAYS BACK THERE.

SO, THAT'S ALLEYS AND THAT'S STREETS.

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: I DIDN'T TAKE NOTE.

>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION? WE'VE LOOKED AT THE NETWORK PCI WEIGHTED AVERAGE OF 69 (INDISCERNIBLE) IF YOU LOOK AT VARIANCES AS WELL, AND WE COULD HAVE A HIGH AVERAGE BY HAVING 50% OF THE STREETS BEING REALLY GOOD AND 10% OF THE STREETS THAT ARE REALLY, REALLY BAD. WE HAVEN'T DONE A WHOLE LOT IT HAVE STATISTICAL STUDY ON THAT. THE WAY YOUR NETWORK IS BROKEN UP IS SEGMENT BY SEGMENT, SO, IT'S BLOCK TO BLOCK. IN SOME CASES

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DOWN THAT GRADE, RIGHT? >> YEAH.

>> SO, YOU COULD LOOK AT IT THAT WAY AND WE COULD BREAK IT DOWN AND SEE. THE BAR CHART, IF YOU GO A FEW MORE ON THERE, TO ME, KIND OF HELPS. THIS ONE KIND OF HELPS YOU UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT OF THAT TO KNOW WHAT'S PULLING THE WEIGHT.

>> WHAT WERE THE PCI VALUES THE VERY POOR?

>> 26-40. >> YEAH.

>> AND THOSE ARE SET BY THE INDUSTRY STANDARD?

>> THAT'S THE STANDARD. YOU COULD ALWAYS MODIFY THAT. I HAVE A CLIENT THAT DOESN'T LIKE THE TERM FAILED. SO, WE JUST LUMP EVERYTHING INTO VERY POOR. YOU COULD MODIFY THIS HOWEVER YOU WANT. IT'S UP FOR INTERPRETATION. DON'T READ TOO MUCH INTO THE LABELS, A BUNCH OF ENGINEERS MADE UP THESE LABELS.

IT'S REALLY HOW YOU WANT TO MANAGE IT.

>> A GOOD OBSERVATION, MANY OF OUR STREETS ARE VERY OLD WHICH ALSO MEANS THE UTILITIES UNDERNEATH THEM ARE OLD.

(INDISCERNIBLE) >> IT'S ABOUT WHAT'S UNDERNEATH IT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO REBUILD A ROAD WITHOUT REBUILDING THOSE

UTILITIES. >> I THINK IN THE CIP DISCUSSION WHEN WE'RE GOING INTO NEIGHBORHOODS AND DOING THAT, THE STANDARD PRACTICE IS TO REPLACE THE SEWER WELL IN THERE.

WHEN TALKING ABOUT EVALUATING UNDER GROUND UTILITIES IT'S MORE DIFFICULT THAN SURFACE CONSTRUCTION. A LOT OF OUR STAFF KNOWS WHERE THE LINES THAT ARE BAD ARE, WE KNOW THE ONES WHICH WE'RE CONCERNED WITH AND PAY PARTICULARLY ATTENTION TO

THOSE. >> WE HAVE SEVERAL. WE TV CAMERAED THE SEWER LINES. BUT IT'S NOT LIKE WHAT THEY DO BY DRIVING THROUGH HERE AND SEEING THE ROADWAY. IT IS, IT TAKES A MORE DIFFICULT COMBINATION OF TECHNIQUES FOR UNDER GROUND.

>> WOULD YOU GO BACK TWO SLIDES, SCOTT?

>> I WANT TO GO TO, YES, I THINK THAT'S THE ONE. SO, TO THE POINT BRIAN MADE. YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT THAT SECOND, THE THIRD CHART AT THE END, THAT THIRD CHART OF THE MAP, SO, WHEN I LOOK AT THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE, THAT'S GREAT. THE ONE AT THE END, PRICELESS. AND WHAT I WAS GOING TO POINT OUT IS LIKE, LET'S SAY THAT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S PROBABLY MAY BE A COUPLE, BUT LET'S SAY THAT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU LOOK AT STREETS THAT ARE RED AND SAY, THAT'S WHAT YOU GOT TO DO NEXT.

>> BUT, WE MAY HAVE TO ACTUALLY WORK ON A BETTER AREA FIRST BECAUSE WE MIGHT HAVE TO GET UTILITIES. WE HAVE TO CHANGE UTILITIES, WE MAY HAVE TO RESURFACE THAT BEFORE WE COULD GET TO THE OTHER PART. IT'S NOT ALL, YOU CAN'T JUST IT'S NOT LIKE A CRANE COMES IN AND DROPS IN A STREET, YOU KNOW. WE FIND THAT A LOT THAT HAPPENS WITH OUR STUFF, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO DO THE PREPARATORY WORK IN A ANOTHER AREA BEFORE GET LING TO PHASE TWO OR PHASE THREE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD. SO, IF THERE IS SCIENCE BEHIND THIS, I JUST THING OUR DATA SET NOW IS SO MUCH BETTER FOR A STARTING POINT. AND I THINK IT WILL PROVE THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE IN THE FUTURE. AND THEN, GOING FORWARD SAY WHEN WE GET STARTING TO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET CONVERSATIONS, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO START PINNING DOWN THE COUNCIL TO CONVERSATIONS ABOUT FUNDING FOR THE FUTURE AND ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE GOAL SHOULD BE. DO WE WANT A MINIMUM? AND IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MINIMUM, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? OUR STANDARD AVERAGE IS ONE THING, BUT, IF WE DID AN $80 MILLION PROJECT TO SCOTT'S POINT AND REPLACED ALL THE STREETS THAT $80 MILLION WOULD COVER, YOU KNOW, THE AVERAGE GOES UP A BIT TOO, BUT THEN YOU GOT TO PAY THE PIPER IN THE

FUTURE. >> THERE ARE FACTORS IN OUR DECISION WHEN IT GETS TO BUDGET TIME. ONE, OF COURSE, IS TRAFFIC, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE FAILED ROADS ARE NOT THE ONES MOST USED. AND THE OTHER IS SAFETY. I THINK YOU

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I THINK ALL OF THOSE THINGS COME INTO PLAY WHEN WE START TO PUT THE PENCIL TO WHICH ROADS WE'RE GOING TO HIT.

>> THE CONDITION. SAFETY, VOLUME, AND THEN WE HAVE THE OLD MY BACKYARD. AND THIS IS THE CASE WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY "I WANT THIS IN MY BACKYARD" IF I'M LIVING ON THE STREET WITH THE TWELVE, YES, THE AVERAGE OF 69 IS NO GOOD TO MOV.

>> PCI A GREAT INFORMATION, BUT IT'S NOT THE ONLY INFORMATION.

THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS FUNDING. WHETHER THERE'S DEVELOPMENT. EVEN IF IT'S A LOWER PCI BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET HELP DOWN THE ROAD TO GET STUFF DONE. SO, THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO THOSE DECISIONS. PCI IS A VERY GOOD PLACE TO

START, THOUGH. >> THIS IS, YOU KNOW, AMAZING DATA, I CAN'T WAIT, TO DIVE INTO IT. AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF

YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS. >> SURE.

>> AND IT'S A GREAT DATA SET FOR WHEN THESE DECISIONS, TO YOUR POINT, ARE MADE GOING FORWARD. WHAT I REALLY TAKE FROM IT AND WHAT I STRESS TO THIS COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE, WHEN THOSE HARD DISCUSSIONS COME OF HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE GOING TO PUT INTO THE STREETS MOVING FORWARD. WHEN WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, I SEE WHAT I'VE SAID SINCE I LIVED IN THE CITY, IF YOUR ALLEY'S BAD OR STREET'S BAD, YOU'RE GOING TO BE THE ONE WHO COMPLAINS THE MOST. YOU HEAR IT ALL THE TIME, OUR ROADS ARE HORRIBLE. OUR ROADS ARE NOT HORRIBLE. SINCE I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS CITY FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS, THIS CITY HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF INVESTING MONEY IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND THIS PROVES THIS OUT. AND THE FACT THAT WE WERE DOING QUARTERLY REVIEWS THE OLD FASHIONED WAY. IT GOES TO SHOW THAT WE'VE DONE A LOT OF INVESTMENT, AND YES, YOU COULD CONTINUE TO INVEST INTO OUR ROADS AND WE SHOULD. AND THIS REALLY GOOD PLAN TO DO THAT. BUT, WE'VE INVESTED INTO OUR NOV AT THE RISK OF OTHER THINGS IN OUR CITY. AND WE'RE HAVING TO HAVE REALLY HARD CONVERSATIONS AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ASK THE VOTER HARD QUESTIONS ABOUT FUTURE BOND PACKAGES FOR THOSE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN FUNDING THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE FUNDED AND MAY BE THEY HAVE WORST ROADS THAN WE DO. BUT, THEY MAY HAVE IN CITY HALLS OR POLICE BUILDINGS OR ANIMAL SHELTERS, WHERE WE'VE BEEN PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY INTO ROADS, WE'VE BEEN LETTING OTHER THENINGS GO. NOWE HAVE ALL OF THIS GREAT DATA THAT SAYS WE JUST SPENT 2 MORE MILLION DOLLAR A YEAR WE COULD RAISE OUR PCI BY THIS AND DO THAT. THAT'S LAESS BOND MONEY THAT YOU GET TO PUT IN POLICE AND FIRE AND PARKS AND I URGE THE PUBLIC WATCHING TO BE LOOKING BACK AT THIS IS THAT NOW'S THE TIME THAT YOU HAVE ALL THE DATA TO FORM A REALLY GOOD PLAN TO BE ABLE TO SHOW HOW YOU CAN MANAGE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND HERE YOU CAN LOOK AT ALL OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE YOU COULD BALANCE OF WHAT'S A LIMITED BUDGET IN A SMALL CITY TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THOSE OTHER THINGS FORWARD TOO. THAT'S KIND OF MY TWO CENTS ON THAT WHOLE THING. THAT WAS AWESOME DATA AND I

THINK THAT WAS MONEY WELL SPENT. >> AND HOW OFTEN WILL WE DO

THIS? >> EVERY FOUR YEARS BUT WE WILL CAPTURE THE REHAB IN THE INTERIM.

>> WHEN WE HAVE A MAJOR EVENT LIKE AT WINTER STORM OR THE DROUGHT FROM THIS YEAR, HOW MUCH OF A SUDDEN DROPPOFF HAVE YOU NOTICED HISTORICALLY IN OTHER CITIES THAT YOU'VE DONE THAT

THOSE TYPES OF EVENTS DO? >> THAT'S THE THING ABOUT PAVEMENTS, NOTHING'S REALLY CATASTROPHIC, YOU MAY SEE IT IN TWO OR THREE YEARS. THE DROUGHT, THEY WILL SETTLE AND MOVE AND YOU'LL GET MOVEMENT OF THAT, BUT IT'S NOT UNTIL WE START TO WET UP, HOPEFULLY, NEXT YEAR. THAT YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO SEE THE BIG MOVEMENTS. I'VE SEEN JOBS ALL AROUND DFW WHERE WE BUILT IT IN A DRYER TIME FRAME AND IT'S NOT UNTIL THREE YEARS LATER THAT WE START TO GET THE WETTING THAT WE START TO SEE

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FINANCE PURPOSES. >> IS THERE A PRODUCT THAT WILL

LET US ASSIGN THOSE TO PRODUCE? >> THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM OUT

THERE. >> YES. THERE'S A LOT MORE OTHER SYSTEMS THAT CAN GET YOU A LOT MORE DETAIL FINANCIAL OPTIMIZATION DOING THAT TYPE OF THING. AND, WE CAN CONSULT WITH THEM. WE WORK WITH FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT SOFTWARES. THERE'S AN ENTERPRISE SYSTEM THAT YOU COULD GET INTO. THAT ALLOWS YOU TO TAKE UTILITY INFORMATION ALONG WITH THE PAVEMENT INFORMATION AND CROSS COMBINE THOSE. THE BIG THING IS REALLY TO COMMUNICATE WITHIN YOUR DEPARTMENTS JUST LIKE YOU'RE RECOGNIZING THAT IF I'M GOING TO REBUILD A ROAD, I BETTER CHECK TO SEE WHAT THE WATER DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO DO BEFORE I REBUILD

THAT ROAD. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING GOING BACK TO THE DATA SO, I WANT TO TRY AND UNDERSTAND THIS. SO, I'M LOOKING AT A NEW ROAD HERE ON THE GIS, I'M SEEING THE 2022 STREET CONDITION MAP. YOU KNOW, IT'S A NEW ROAD BUT IT HAS A GOOD RATING, WHICH IS YELLOW.

BUT, ON ANOTHER ROAD THAT IS ASPHALT, LIKE CHIESA ROAD, SOUTH OF MILLER, I GUESS LIKE THE ALLIGATOR CRACKING IS ALSO UNDER THE CONDITION OF GOOD. SO, I LOOKED AT THAT, AND THAT'S NOT ADDING UP IN MY HEAD HOW THAT PCI COULD BE CONSIDERED GOOD, AS WELL AS ANOTHER BRAND NEW ROAD WHICH REALLY, I THOUGHT WOULD BE CONSIDERED WHAT IS THAT TERM, FOR THE GREEN, EXCELLENT? BUT, IT'S ONLY GOOD. SO, IS THERE SOME, YOU KNOW, MAY BE I'M NOT

UNDERSTANDING HOW THAT'S. >> WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DISTRESSES, THERE ARE CERTAIN DISTRESSES THAT CARRY MORE WEIGHT. WHEN THE SYSTEM WAS DEVELOPED YOU HAVE 19 FOR ASPHALT AND 17 FOR CONCRETE. THERE ARE DEDUCT VALUES FOR SOME OF THOSE. SOME OF THOSE LIKE THE WEATHERING, THE MAX DEDUCTS IS 5 POINTS FOR THE SEVERITY OF WEATHER. TRANSVERSE TO A FATIGUE CRACKING, A LOW SEVERITY DEDUCTS COULD BE 30 POINTS AND THESE ARE SUBSTRICTED FROM A PERFECT 100. NOW, THE MORE DISTRESSES THAT YOU GET, THERE'S A CORRECTION FACTOR IN THAT BECAUSE OF HOW MANY DISTRESSES YOU DON'T WANT TO OVERLOAD THE LOAD, THERE'S A WHOLE SCIENCE TO IT. BUT, EACH DISTRESS TYPE HAS A WEIGHT BASED ON WHAT DAMAGE IS OCCURRING, BUT, I HAVE TO LOOK

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OF 60. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: AT LEAST I KNOW WHAT IT DRIVES LIKE, AND THAT IS AWFUL COMPARED TO A ROAD

WHICH WAS JUST DONE. >> THE OTHER FACTOR THAT COMES IN THERE, IS THAT RIDE QUALITY. AND WE CAN UTILIZE THAT, THERE ARE PROGRAMS OUT THERE THAT TAKE THAT AND COMBINE IT WITH A PCI TO GET AN OCI SCORE. YOU COULD FACTOR IN THE RIDE QUALITY ALONG WITH THE STRESS AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING AS INDICATORS OF DAMAGE.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS LAGGING CATERS IS DAMAGE ALREADY OCCURRED. THE RIDE IS WHAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC WILL FEEL. SO, YOU COULD COMBINE THE TWO, SOME OF THE RATING METHODS ARE SUSPECT BECAUSE IT'S DESIGNED FOR HIGH WEIGHT, LOW SPEED. I CAUTION USING THAT. BUT YOU CAN.

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: I'M ASKING THIS QUESTION BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WHEN, WHEN OTHER CITIZENS WILL LOOK AT THIS, THEY'RE GOING TO SEE PROBABLY THE SAME THING AND SAY, WELL, THAT JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO MAKE SENSE. BUT THERE'S A LOT MORE SCIENCE THAT GOES

INTO IT THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND. >> IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO GET

A COPY OF THIS PRESENTATION? >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> WAS IT PART OF THE PACKET? >> I HAVE A NOTE TO SEND IT TO

YOU ALL. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE APPRECIATE THIS VERY MUCH.

>> SCOTT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. APPRECIATE

IT. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: NEXT ITEM.

[3B. Receive a presentation from Economic Development staff regarding the basics of economic development and the methods and programs utilized by the department. ]

ITEM? >> OKAY. THIS IS A REVIEW FOR SOME OF YOU, BUT BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF NEW COUNCILMEMBERS, I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO REVISIT THE BASICS OF ECONOMIC REDEVELOPMENT AND HOW WE DO IT IN THE CITY AND SOME OTHER HOT TOPICS I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION. I'M TRY TO GO EXPLAIN WHAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS, BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ATTRACTING A BUSINESS AND WHERE IT'S IMPORTANT, YOU'RE NOT ONLY CREATING JOBS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE, BUT, SOMEBODY HAS TO MAKE THE CUPS THAT THE COFFEE GOES IN. AND THE APP THAT IS WE USE TO ORDER AHEAD SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT AND THOSE BUSINESSES PAY TAXES THAT GO BACK IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE AS CONSUMERS PAY SALES TAXES THAT COME BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO, OBVIOUSLY, WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT AROUND THIS TABLE. BUT, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUSINESS, SOMEBODY IN OTHER COUNTRIES ARE MOST LIKELY PICKING THE COFFEE BEANS AND SOMEBODY HAS TO SHIP THEM AND ROAST THEM AND TRANSPORT THEM. IT CAN BE A GLOBAL IMPACT THAT YOUR BUSINESSES HAVE WHEN THEY LOCATE HERE. SO. VERY IMPORTANT; I MENTIONED THIS A LITTLE BIT IN THE PACKET, I WON'T TALK ABOUT IT TOO MUCH. BUT, EVERYBODY ASKS WELL, ARE YOU TYPE A OR TYPE B FUNDED CITY AND WE'RE NEITHER. SO, IT WAS DECIDED A LONG TIME AGO THAT OUR 1% SALES TAX CAPABILITY GOES TO FUND THE DART RAIL LINE HERE. WHICH IS A GREAT ASSET FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EVEN FOR US TO HAVE.

SO, WE'RE FUNDED WHOLLY BY THE GENERAL FUND AND WE HAVE $950,000 BUDGET THAT WE HAVE WITH SALARIES THAT WE HAVE WITH EVERYTHING ALL IN. AND THEN, WE ALSO HAVE AN INCENTIVE FUND THAT'S USED FOR THINGS TO PAY THE AGREEMENT WE HAVE WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WE PAY A RENTAL FEE. A LEASE ON THE PARKING LOT BEHIND BANK HEAD. SO, WE PRY THAT FOR OUR CITIZENS. BUT THAT IS FROM A PORTION OF THE LIQUOR SALES TAX.

THE MISSION IS TO CREATE AN INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY AND TO HELP DIVERSIFY THE TAX BASE. SO, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT HOW MUCH THE RESIDENTS ARE SHOULDERING THE BURDEN OF THE TAX BASE AND OUR BUDGET HERE IN THE CITY AND IT'S OUR JOB IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, TO RECRUIT AND BRING IN MORE INDUSTRY, IF

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OTHERWISE, WE HELP ENTREPRENEURIAL SUPPORT BY OUR PROGRAM WITH THE CHAMBER AND THEY'VE RECENTLY DEVELOPED A PROGRAM, A SERIES FOR SMALL BUSINESSES TO HELP WITH MARKETING, BUSINESS PLANNING, FINANCING, AND, UM, THOSE ARE BEING WELL ATTENDED AND MICHAEL WAS SAYING THIS MORNING THEY GET A LITTLE MORE EACH TIME, SO, THE WORD'S GETTING OUT AND MAY BE WE'LL DO THAT ANOTHER ROUND AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. AGAIN, WE CONNECT THEM WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION AND THE SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CENTER WHERE CHARLES CAME FROM, SO, HE'S GOT A LOT OF CONNECTIONS THERE AND OTHER AREAS THROUGHOUT UM, THAT SPACE. BUSINESS ATTRACTION, SO, THIS IS WHY, YOU KNOW, IT'S COSTLY FOR COMMUNITIES TO DO THIS, BUT, UM, NECESSARY, I GUESS, YOU ALL EXPECT THAT FROM US, YOU EXPECT US TO TRY TO BE ATTRACTING NEW COMPANIES. SO, THE COST TO DO TRADE SHOWS AND MARKETING EVENTS, WE TRY TO CONNECT WITH CONSULTANTS WHOSE JOBS IT IS TO HELP COMPANIES FIND NEW SPACES. THERE'S A GROUP OF THOSE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY THAT WE TRY TO GET IN FRONT OF AND WE PARTNER WITH TEAM TEXAS, A LOT TO DO THAT. I WENT ON A MARKETING TRIP EARLIER THIS YEAR TO ATLANTA TO COMPANIES ALREADY INTERESTED IN MOVING TO TEXAS. WE WENT TO THOSE COMPANY'S OFFICES AND MET WITH THEM. AND CHARLES HAS ATTENDED TRADE

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SO, I JUST FIND THAT VERY INTERESTING. THIS NEXT CHART SHOWS THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN ROWLETT, WHAT KIND OF OCCUPATIONS THEY WORK IN. SO, AGAIN, IT'S BASED ON HOW MANY ARE EMPLOYED IN THAT INDUSTRY, SO, SALES, ARE THE TOP INDUSTRY, SO THAT INCLUDES RETAIL JOBS. OFFICE AND ADMINISTRATIVE, FOOD PREP, RESTAURANTS. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF RESTAURANTS HERE, AND CONSTRUCTION, AGAIN, IS IN THE TOP FOUR, AND THEN HEALTH CARE.

SO, THIS SHOWS YOU THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WORK IN HEALTH CARE, WORK IN THE COMMUNITY ALSO LIVE HERE. A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION JOBS. THEY ALSO LIVE HERE, SO, AGAIN, YOU COULD SEE THAT LOCATION QUOTIENT IN THAT THIRD COLUMN REPRESENTING A HIGHER THAN AVERAGE NUMBER IN CONSTRUCTION AND HEALTH CARE.

THAT'S GOOD FOR US THAT OUR WORKERS LIVE HERE. CAN LIVE AND WORK HERE. SO. ALL RIGHT. THE OTHER, UM, TOPIC I WANTED TO PUT IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY WAS JUST TO REVIEW OUR INCENTIVE POLICY.

SO, YOU WERE INVOLVED WITH THE LA HACIENDA PROJECT, SOME OF YOU WITH THE SHAW, AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD DONE. SO, I WANTED TO PUT THIS BACK OUT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU FOR DISCUSSION IF YOU WOULD LIKE, BUT, WE DO HAVE A POLICY WHICH IS GREAT. A LOT OF COMMUNITIES DON'T. AND WHEN YOU GET REQUESTS FOR FUNDS, YOU KIND OF DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. SO, IT'S GREAT THAT WE ALREADY HAVE A POLICY BUT MAY BE IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED. THE GENERAL PURPOSE OF INCENTIVE IS TO HELP CREATE JOBS AND ENSURE THAT WE HAVE HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT IN THE COMMUNITY. THEY'RE SUBJECTIVE AND CONSIDERED ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS AND WE'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO

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WHEREAS IN TEXAS, IT'S MORE OF A BOTTOM UP ENVIRONMENT. THERE'S NO STATE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT YOU GO TO A BOARD TO REQUEST FUNDING HERE. IT'S VERY MUCH A LOCAL ENVIRONMENT ALTHOUGH, STATE LEGISLATION ENABLES MUCH OF IT. THERE'S TAX ABATEMENT FOR REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY, THERE'S FEE WAIVERS, IMPACT FEES AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE.

INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, THE CITY CAN PARTNER WITH THE DEVELOPER ON HELPING THEM WITH IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE REQUIRING THEM TO DO. LOANS AND GRANTS IS PART OF THAT PROGRAM AND OF COURSE, WE OFFER A FAST TRACK OF CITY SERVICES BUT. OUR GROUP DOES A GREAT JOB OF THAT. SO, PART OF THE PROGRAM THAT WE OFFER ARE TARGETED INCENTIVES. AND SO, THESE ARE COMPANIES THAT CREATE JOBS AT LEAST 25 NEW FULL-TIME JOBS, THEY HAVE TO PAY 100% OR MORE OF THE COUNTY AVERAGE WAGE WHICH FOR US IN DALLAS COUNTY IS HIGH, $27 AND $0 -- $27.89 IS THE WAGE. THEY COULD GET $5,000 A JOB OR $3,000 A JOB, DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY PAY. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE EVER DONE THAT. I HAVEN'T FOUND AGREEMENTS WHERE WE PULLED THE TRIGGER ON THAT. BUT, 25 NEW JOBS IS A WIN FOR US. BUT, THE OTHER ONE THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IS THE SPECIALTY RETAIL ENTERTAINMENT AND RESTAURANT CATEGORY. THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE DID FOR LA HACIENDA, AND IT'S NO PROVIDE INCENTIVES FOR DESTINATION RESTAURANTS OR RETAILERS THAT ATTRACT BUSINESS FROM OUTSIDE THE AREA, BUT ALSO OFFER A UNIQUE EXPERIENCE. THE CRITERIA IS THAT THEY HAVE TO OWN THE PROPERTY OR HAVE A FIVE-YEAR LEASE AND IT HAS TO HAVE A 10 TO 1 RETURN TO THE CITY. SO, WHATEVER INVESTMENT THEY'RE MAKING, THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF THE INCENTIVE IS 10% ESSENTIALLY. SO, THERE'S A MATCHING GRANT PROGRAM, SO, 50% OF THE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDING FURNITURE THE, FIXTURES AND EQUIPMENT. AND THEN WE HAVE THE GREASE TRAP REBATE WHICH WE REQUIRE FOR ANY NEW RESTAURANT TO HAVE AND THOSE ARE PRETTY EXPENSIVE, SO, UM, WE OFFER $7,500 FOR THAT. THE PROCESS, I THINK IS PRETTY WELL VETTED.

SO, THEY HAVE TO ACTUALLY FILL OUT AN APPLICATION AND THEN WE WILL INPUT THAT DATA INTO OUR EVALUATION SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE AND THEY GO IN AND FILL THE DATA OF THE JOB, HOW MUCH THEY'RE PAYING, THE INVESTMENT THEY'RE MAKING AND WE REVIEW IT WITH STAFF AND MAKE SURE THAT IT MEETS THE CRITERIA AND THAT WE FEEL IT'S A PROJECT WORTH MOVING AHEAD IN THE PROCESS AND WE TAKE THAT TO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION AND DISCUSSION AND THEY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL FOR REVIEW AND IT WOULD BE AUTHORIZED BOY A RESOLUTION AND THE PUBLIC PROCESS TO TAKE PLACE. AND WE HAVE MANY AGREEMENTS IN PLACE ALREADY, IF YOUR NOT AWARE, THESE ARE ALL LISTED ON YOUR WEBSITE ON THE TRANSPARENCY PAGE UNDER THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. SO, THESE ARE ALL THE ACTIVE AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE AND, UM, WE LIST THOSE ON OUR WEBSITE, WE ALSO HAVE TO REPORT THOSE THROUGH A PORTAL THROUGH THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE WHICH IS SOMETHING NEW THAT THEY'RE DOING, SO, IT'S JUST ANOTHER STEP THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH.

BUT, EVERYTHING'S VERY TRANSPARENT. SO, I THINK THAT'S IT. BUT, UM, SHORT AND SWEET. I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO

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BRING THOSE THINGS UP. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO, YOU BROUGHT UP THE INCENTIVE POLICY AND POSSIBLY UPDATING IT. SO, I GUESS WITH THAT, THAT WOULD GO TO EDAP TO REVIEW, AND COME UP WITH IDEAS AND THEN IT WOULD COME TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION? SO, IS THAT THE

PROCESS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? >> YES.

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: OKAY. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE DO THAT.

>> MAY BE A SUBCOMMITTEE OUT OF EDAP TO WORK ON IT.

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: YEAH, SPECIFICALLY, THE TIMING OF BUSINESSES APPLYING WHETHER THEY APPLY BEFORE, DURING, OR AFTER

CONSTRUCTION. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: COUNCIL, MY

OTHER QUESTIONS? IDEAS? >> I JUST APPRECIATE THE HOLISTIC PRESENTATION AND THE WHOLE PACKAGE BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO SEE THE WHOLE THING AS OPPOSED OF THE INSCENTIVIZIN.

>> I LOVE THE KIDS INTRODUCTION TO ENTREPRENEURSHIP, IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM TO START THEM WHEN THEY'RE YOUNG TO ENCOURAGE THAT KIND OF, NOT JUST THAT YOU HAVE TO GO OUT AND GET A 9 TO 5 JOB OR YOU NEED AN ADVANCED DEGREE, BUT, YOU COULD BE SUCCESSFUL BY BEING AN ENTREPRENEUR AND STARTING YOUR OWN BUSINESS.

>> AND LARRY LANK WHOSE ON OUR EDAP BOARD AND SPOKE HE'S INTERESTED IN PROMOTING THAT AND TALKING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE HE'S

HAD MULTIPLE BUSINESSES. >> SOMETHING I SEE AS A MISCONCEPTION A LOT IS THAT THE CITY IS SUPPOSED TO BRING IN THESE BUSINESSES. WE DO OUR BEST TO ATTRACT, BUT, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S A FREE MARKET CAPTAINIST ECONOMY, IF THEY WANT TO LOCATE HERE, THEY WILL. IF THEIR MARKETING TEAM DECIDES THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S WHY WE DON'T HAVE AN H-E-B HERE.

>> WE'RE WORKING ON OTHER IDEAS.

[4. DISCUSS CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: SO, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, THEN, ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THEN, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PULL OFF OF? WE'RE PULLING ITEM 8D OFF. ARE THERE ANY, DO WE WANT TO QUESTION THAT? WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS STAFF NEEDS TO (INDISCERNIBLE) THAT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE IT THE NEXT MEETING.

>> OKAY. >> ANYTHING OFF THE CONSENT?

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: YEAH? ANYTHING OFF THE CONSENT?

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: OKAY. IT'S 7:27 OR 7:28, SO --

>> I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTH WHILE TORE THE CHIEF TO TALK

ABOUT AWE (INAUDIBLE). >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: I KNOW, THAT'S FINE. SO, WE'LL PULL 7-F FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION AND THE CHIEF WILL BE GIVING THAT PRESENTATION, RIGHT?

>> ALL RIGHT. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: LET'S RECONVENE, LET'S GIVE US A

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.