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>> ALL RIGHTY. GOOD EVENING.

IT IS THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 16 AT 5:31 P.M.

WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT AT THE CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION ROOM.

AS AUTHORIZED BY SECTION 551-071 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THIS MEETING MAY CONVENE IN CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THE CITY OF ROULETTE RESERVES THE RIGHT TO RECONVENE OR REALIGN THE REGULAR SESSION. AT ANY TIME PRIOR TO ADJOURNMENT. THE PROCESS FOR PUBLIC INPUT, IF YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND IN PERSON, YOU MAY COMPLETE THE CITIZEN INPUT FORM ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE BY 3:30 P.M. THE DAY OF THE MEETING. ALL FORMS WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING AND FOR IN-PERSON COMMENTS AND INSTRUCTIONS, THEY ARE AVAILABLE

[1. Consider action to approve an ordinance calling a special bond election to be held on May 6, 2023, and establishing the ballot language for the propositions therein.]

INSIDE CITY HALL. OUR FIRST ITEM IS CONSIDER ACTION TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE CALLING A SPECIAL BOND ELECTIO TO BE HELD ON MAY 6, 2023. AND ESTABLISHING THE BALLOT LANGUAGE FOR THE PROPOSITIONS THEREIN.

I WILL READ THE SECOND ONE. OKAY.

AND ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? ON THIS? WE DIDN'T GET ANY ON-LINE? ALL RIGHT.

>> THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT BRINGS US TO WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT. IN DECEMBER, THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM TASK FORCE PRESENTED THE RESULTS FROM THE PUBLIC INPUT CAMPAIGN RELATED TO THE PRIORITIZATION OF CITY AT A SPECIAL MEETING ON JANUARY 5, COUNCIL DISCUSSED THE RESULTS AND CONSENSUS WAS REACHED TO PROCEED WITH THE FACILITY-BASED BOND ELECTION IN MAY. AFTER CONSULTING WITH THE FACILITY... I JUST LOST THE WORD.

>> TASK FORCE. THE ARCHITECTS WHO HELPED WITH THE FACILITY ASSESSMENT... THAT IS THE WORD I WAS LOOKING FOR.

AND THEN TONIGHT... TOMORROW, ACTUAL, IS THE DEADLINE TO CALL THE SPECIAL ELECTION. THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE TONIGHT.

THE ELECTION WILL BE HELD IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE REGULAR GENERAL ELECTION FOR CITY COUNCIL ON MAY 6.

THERE WILL BE THREE PROPOSITIONS.

THE FIRST IS FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY WHICH WOULD INCLUDE FIRE ADMINISTRATION POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THE MUNICIPAL COURT. THIS IS THE VERBAGE THAT WILL BE ON THE BALLOT. PROPOSITION B WILL BE FOR AN ANIMAL SHELTER FACILITY, AND PROPOSITION C IS FOR THE COMPLETION OF IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR PARK.

ANY QUESTIONS? >> COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

IN THE PACKET, THERE WERE SOME HIGHLIGHTED AREAS IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE THAT LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE... I GOT THEM.

>> ON PAGE FOUR, OF THE ORDINANCE ITSELF, WHICH IS UNDER SECTION 11, SUBSECTION E, PUT THAT AS 5%.

WE WILL HAVE THE FORMAL ONE THAT THE MAILER WILL SIGN, BUT THAT WILL BE 5%. THEY ARE USING 4.5% AS THEIR ESTIMATE NOW. YOU DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO WE WILL USE 5%. SECTION F WILL BE 20 YEARS.

AND SUBSECTION H, IT IS A LONG NUMBER.

26 MILLION... 26,334,002. >> SO YOU SAID THE FIRST

PROPOSITION FOR THE FACILITY... >> NO.

THIS IS ALL PROPOSITIONS. UNDER SECTION 11.

>> OKAY. >> SECTION 11, THERE IS THREE

YELLOW BLANKS IN THERE. >> THOSE ARE THE DETAILS OF THE

BOND. >> YES.

HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW. WE WILL WANT THOSE NUMBERS IN THERE WHEN YOU SIGN THE DOCUMENTS.

SIGN THE ORDINANCE. IF COUNCIL PASSES THAT TONIGHT.

WAS THAT YOUR QUESTION, MAYOR? >> YOU SAID 5%.

>> AS THE MAX INTEREST RATE. >> YES.

>> THEY ARE TELLING US... NOW, REMEMBER WE WON'T SELL THE BONDS UNTIL SOMETIME IN JUNE, JULY, AND SO TODAY THEY ARE ESTIMATING 4.5%. YOU DEFINITELY WANT TO BE... YOU DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T FALL SHORT.

>> SO HAS THERE BEEN CONSIDERATION ON... I KNOW YOU SAID THIS IS A 20-YEAR BOND FOR THESE FACILITIES.

HAS THERE BEEN CONSIDERATION FOR A 30-YEAR BOND?

>> I WILL TELL YOU THAT HERE IS WHAT I HAVE TOLD PEOPLE IN THE PAST. WHEN YOU START TO DO 30-YEAR BONDS, T THERE COMES A POINT WHE THE LAW OF DIMINISHING RETURN F, YOU ARE NOT REALLY GAINING A WHOLE LOT MORE IN THE AMOUNT OF

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INTEREST YOU ARE PAYING AS A WHOLE LOT MORE.

>> I'M THINKING ABOUT SPREADING OUT THOSE PAYMENTS TO GET A

LOWER IMPACT ON THE TAX RATE. >> WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT IN SO LONG. WE HAVE ONLY DONE 20-YEAR BONDS.

I MEAN, WE HAVE DONE SHORTER-TERM TAX NOTES AND STUFF. WE NOT... WE HAVE NOT GONE BEYOND 20 YEARS. I WILL TELL YOU THE REASON WHY.

WE HAVE A CYCLE IN PLACE NOW TO DO BOND ELECTIONS EVERY THREE YEARS. BECAUSE THEY ARE BASED ON 20 YEARS, WE KNOW WHEN THOSE DEBT SERVICES ARE FALLING OFF.

AND... >> THIS IS NOT OUR REGULAR BOND.

>> I UNDERSTAND. I'M JUST SAYING, TYPICALLY, YOU

WOULD NOT WANT TO DO THAT. >> I KNOW THERE IS SOME ARGUMENT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IN 30 YEARS, WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO DO RENOVATIONS AND OTHER WORK TO IT.

AND YOU ARE STILL PAYING FOR THE BUILDING.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, 20-YEAR BONDS MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FOR ROADSENED ALLEYS AND THAT KIND OF CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE.

I WAS JUST THINKING THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT... I WAS HOPING TO HAVE THE ANSWER TODAY ABOUT WHAT THE POSSIBILITY OF THE 30-YEAR BOND WOULD LOOK LIKE VERSUS A

20-YEAR. >> WELL, I THINK YOU GAVE A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE. AND THAT IS THAT IN 30 YEARS, YOU WILL BE DOING A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS.

WE FOUND THAT WITH THE ZONES. LONG BEFORE THOSE BONDS CAME DUE, TH THERE WAS MAJOR WORK THT HAD TO BE DONE TO THAT FACILITY.

>> YUP. >> THAT IS THE RISK YOU BEAR.

LET ME SAY THIS. YOU COULD, IF WE WERE TO CHANGE THAT TO 30-YEAR PERIOD, INSTEAD OF 20-YEAR, THE ONLY THING I DON'T KNOW IS WHAT THAT DOES TO YOUR INTEREST RATE.

>> OR THE TAX RATE. >> OR THE TAX RATE.

BECAUSE WE HAVE CALCULATED EVERYTHING BASED ON 20 YEARS.

>> TYPICALLY, IT IS AN INTEREST RATE THAT IS A LITTLE HIGHER?

>> THE ESTIMATE IS HIGHER. THEY ARE USING 4.5 NOW.

YOU WANT TO SAY 5 JUST IN CASE INTEREST RATES CONTINUE TO CREEP

A LITTLE BIT. >> RIGHT.

>> BEING GOVERNMENTAL BONDS, THE MARKET IS NOT AS... IT IS KINDER TO GOVERNMENT, PARTICULARLY SINCE WE ARE BACKING IT WITH THE FULL FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE CITY.

EVEN IF INTEREST RATES GOES UP, IT MIGHT NOT MAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO 5. YOU DON'T WANT TO USE 4.5 AND

THEN IT COMES IN AT 4.6. >> RIGHT.

OKAY. >> I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND GOING

PAST 20 YEARS. >> YEAH.

I WAS JUST HOPING THAT AT LEAST WE COULD SAY IT WAS CONSIDERED.

BASED ON THE NUMBERS. BUT IT IS A LITTLE TOO LATE FOR

THAT. >> WELL, I WOULD AGREE WITH BRIAN BECAUSE JUST, YOU KNOW, KNOWING THE EFFECT ON THE AMOUNT OF INTEREST, THE TOTAL AMOUNT PAID WHEN IT IS SPREAD OVER A

LONGER PERIOD, AMORTIZATION. >> I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

>> LIKE A HOUSE LOAN. IT IS A REALLY CONSIDERABLE

AMOUNT. >> IT IS.

>> THAT YOU SAVE BY DOING A SHORTER PERIOD.

>> YEAH, YEAH. >> AND THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THE MARKET REFLECTS THE TREASURY MARKET.

THE YIELD CURB ON TREASURIES... YOU ARE GETTING A LOWER RATE ON 30S AS AN INVESTOR THAN YOU WOULD BE ON A SHORTER RATE.

I WAS TRYING TO FIND THAT REAL QUICK.

THE NEAREST THING I SEE IS THAT 30 YEARS ARE AT 3.56%.

I THINK YOU HEARD THAT 20S ARE 4%.

>> YES. FOR GOVERNMENTAL BONDS, GOVERNMENT-BACKED SECURITY, WE HAVE AA BOND RATING.

THEY ARE USING 4.5%. >> 4.5.

IT IS A GOOD QUESTION. >> MM-HMM.

>> I THOUGHT I ASKED IT IN AN I MAIL BEFORE.

I GUESS IT WAS LOST. THAT IS FINE.

>> MY APOLOGIES. >> IT IS TOO LATE NOW.

IT DOESN'T MATTER. WE EITHER GO NOW OR WE DON'T GO AT ALL. SO WE ARE GOING.

RIGHT? THAT IS THE QUESTION.

THAT KIND OF WRAPS IT UP TO THE... RIGHT?

>> I THINK IT IS WORTH POINTING OUT TO THE PUBLIC THAT MIGHT BE WATCHING, THERE IS A PARAGRAPH IN THE PACKET WHICH TALKS ABOUT THE IMPACT ON RESIDENTS IF THIS WERE TO PASS.

BASED ON THE TAXABLE VALUE. THE ONE-CENT INCREASE TO THE TAX RATE WHICH CURRENTLY SITS AT .681.

FOR EVERY TEN MILLION APPROVED BY VOTERS IN THE ELECTION.

USING THAT ESTIMATE, A TAX INCREASE OF $25 FOR EVERY 10 MILLION APPROVED PER YEAR. ANNUAL TAX INCREASE.

FOR $250,000. IF ALL THREE PROPOSITIONS WERE TO PASS, THAT IS ABOUT $190 A YEAR ON A $250,000 HOME.

IF YOU HAD A $400,000, YOU CAN EXTRAPOLATE.

THAT IS AROUND $310 A YEAR. $26 A MONTH.

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COST-WISE. IT IS IMPORTANT TO BE TRANSPARENT WITH WHAT WE ARE ASKING.

>> YES. >> THAT IS PART OF, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY, OUR EDUCATION CAMPAIGN.

BREAKING THOSE... WE WILL GET TO THAT LATER.

BUT YEAH. >> FOR THOSE AT HOME WHO WANT TO CALCULATE THEIR OWN PARTICULAR HOME VALUE, BY USING THE ONE PENNY PER TEN MILLION. 6.3 CENTS ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY.

.4 CENTS ON THE PARK PROPOSAL. FOR EVERY $100, IT IS A VALUATION OF YOUR HOME, ABOVE YOUR...

>> WE HAVE THOSE NUMBERS IF YOU WANT THEM.

>> WELL, IS THAT PART OF THE EDUCATION PART?

>> IT IS. NO.

>> OH, IT WILL BE, THOUGH. >> IT WILL BE AS WE ROLL IT OUT.

IT IS NOT PART OF THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT.

>> YES. >> SO PROPOSITION A FOR THE $63 MILLION IS 8.31 CENT TAX INCREASE.

IT IS ACTUALLY 1.3 PENNIES FOR EVERY $10 MILLION NOW.

THAT IS TODAY'S RATE. THAT IS AT THIS RATE.

SO THAT WOULD BE A $208 PER YEAR INCREASE FOR A HOME WITH A TAXABLE VALUE OF $250,000. PROPOSITION B AND.

ED A 8.4 MILLION, IS A 1.1 CENT TAX INCREASE.

$27 PER YEAR FOR A HOME OF A TAXABLE VALUE OF $250,000.

PROPOSITION C AT $4 MILLION IS A HALF A CENT TAX INCREASE.

THAT IS $13 PER YEAR. IF ALL THREE PASS, IT IS 9.88 CENTS. IT IS $248 PER YEAR INCREASE FOR A HOME WITH A TAXABLE VALUE OF $250,000.

YES. WE WILL INCLUDE THAT IN OUR

EDUCATION CAMPAIGN. >> YES.

>> THAT IS A GOOD IDEA. >> IN SOME FORM.

WE WON'T USE THE STARBUCKS CUP OF COFFEE.

>> YEAH. I GOT THE INSERT ON THE RATES.

AA RATED MINI BONDS TODAY. 20-YEAR IS AT 3.45%.

0-YEAR, 3.7%. >> YEAH.

YOU WILL STILL PAY MORE INTEREST OVER TIME.

>> OVER TIME. >> SO I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS A TOUGH DECISION FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

>> YES. >> IT IS A TOUGH DECISION FOR THIS COUNCIL. BUT YOU KNOW, THE DAY AGAIN...

IT IS UP TO OUR RESIDENTS TO DECIDE WHAT THEY BELIEVE IS BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND SO THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT WILL BE POSTED... POSED TO THEM.

THEY WILL VOTE IN MAY. YOU KNOW, LET THEIR VOICE BE HEARD. ARE WE GOOD WITH ITEM 1,

COUNCIL? >> THIS IS A TYPICAL MEETING.

RIGHT? >> WE NEED A MOTION AND A

SECOND, PLEASE. >> OKAY.

>> IS THERE A SPECIFIC LANGUAGE FOR THE MOTION?

>> JUST THE POSTING. >> WELL, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE AN ORDINANCE CALLING A SPECIAL BOND ELECTION TO BE HELD ON MAY 6, 2023 AND ESTABLISHING THE BALLOT LANGUAGE FOR THE

PROPOSITIONS THEREIN. >> I SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER SHINDER. SECOND BY... ALL NOSE FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT ITEM PASSES.

5-2. WITH ONE ABSENT AND ONE

ABSTAINED. >> TWO ABSENT.

ALL RIGHT. I GUESS UNANIMOUS WITH MEMBERS PRESENT. ALL RIGHT.

[2. Discuss Voter Education Campaign for May 6, 2023 Special Bond Election and Special Charter Amendment Election.]

NEXT ITEM IS... LET ME READ IT. NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSS EDUCATION CAMPAIGN FOR MAY 6, 2023 SPECIAL BOND ELECTION AND SPECIAL

CHARTER AMENDMENT ELECTION. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

SO APPARENTLY, OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM DOES NOT LIKE TO SIT IN THIS SEAT. HERE I AM.

AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM, HANNAH, AS YOU KNOW,... IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? OKAY.

>> OKAY. HANNAH IS ON VACATION.

Y'ALL KNOW DENISE OUR COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER.

DREW IS SITTING BEHIND THE SCREEN.

TEXT HIM IF I NEED HIM. HERE I AM.

WHAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT TODAY IS KIND OF THE THINGS THAT OUR TEAM HAS DISCUSSED ROLLING OUT. WE HAVE NOT CREATED ALL THE BROCHURES AND DONE ALL OF THOSE THINGS YET.

BUT THIS IS KIND OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE GOING TO WORK ON.

SO THE EDUCATION COMMUNICATION PLAN, THE GOAL OF TONIGHT IS KIND OF TO OUTLINE THOSE IDEAS FOR THE EDUCATION CAMPAIGN ON BOTH THE CHARTER AMENDMENT AND THE FACILITY BOND ELECTION SCHEDULED FOR MAY, 2023. KIND OF GET CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL ON THE CURRENT PLAN AND SEE IF COUNCIL HAS OTHER IDEAS THEY WOULD LIKE FOR US TO INCORPORATE.

WHAT YOU SEE A SCREEN SHOT THERE OF IS A VERY, VERY DETAILED PLAN. WHAT MONTH, WHO DENISE HAS AS

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BEING RESPONSIBLE AND WHEN THEY ARE GOING TO DO IT AND THE WHOLE NINE YARDS. WE HAVE IT MAPPED OUT WAY FURTS THAN WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO SEE TONIGHT.

THAT WOULD TAKE US A LOT OF HOURS TO GO THROUGH LINE BY LINE. SO WE ARE GOING TO SET UP A BOND ELECTION WEBSITE. I'LL LET LAURA CLICK ON THIS.

SHE CAN SHOW YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THIS WILL LOOK LIKE.

IT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, ROULETTE.COM... ROWLETT.COM OR SOME KIND OF WEBSITE. THAT IS KIND OF THE GIST OF WHAT OUR WEBSITE WOULD LOOK LIKE. THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN USE GOING FORWARD. THIS IS AN AMAZING WEBSITE THAT IS VERY ENGAGING. WE CAN ALSO USE IT GOING FORWARD TO KEEP THE PUBLIC UPDATED ON OUR REGULAR BOND PROJECTS AND THIS BOND PROJECT AND FOR FUTURE BOND ELECTIONS AS WELL.

GREAT STATS. GREAT INFORMATION.

GREAT PICTURES. OKAY.

DIFFERENT COLOR. OH, LOOK.

>> YEAH. I LIKE THAT.

>> AS YOU KNOW, OUR TEAM IS THE BEST AT THIS.

I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT DENISE, DREW, AND ANNA WILL MAKE THIS HAPPEN. IT WILL HAVE VIDEO SUPPORT ON THE HOME PAGE. YOU SAW.

THAT IT CAN BE USED IN FUTURE ELECTIONS.

ALL THE MATERIALS THAT WE PRODUCE WILL HAVE A QR CODE.

IT WILL TAKE YOU DIRECTLY TO THAT WEBSITE.

AS WE TALK THROUGH THIS, YOU WILL SEE SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE WATCHED THE SUPER BOWL, AND ALMOST EVERY COMMERCIAL HAD A QR CODE ON IT. THEY WERE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO SCAN THOSE. THEN THERE WILL BE A CHART ELECTION WEB PAGE. YOU KNOW, ROWLETT.COM AMENDMENT ELECTION. WE WILL WORK OUT THOSE DETAILS.

IT WILL BE DEDICATED TO THE CHART ELECTION WEB PAGE.

IT WILL EXPLAIN PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND WHAT THEY MEAN.

AGAIN, WITH A QR CODE DIRECTING PEOPLE TO THIS WEBSITE SO THEY ARE CONSTANTLY ENGAGING. THE TEAM IS PREPARED TO PUT TOGETHER VIDEOS, SO THERE WOULD BE ONE VIDEO THAT IS JUST THE OVERALL ELECTION. AND THEN ONE VIDEO FOR EACH PROPOSITION. ONE FOR CHARTER AMENDMENTS.

AND THEN ONE FOR, YOU KNOW, TO KIND OF PROMOTE THOSE WEBSITE HOME PAGES. THAT TELLS PEOPLE WHERE TO GO.

AGAIN, QR CODES ALL THROUGHOUT. I WASN'T SURE THE SUPER BOWL QR CODES WERE GOING TO WORK. THEY WORKED PERFECT.

ABSOLUTELY. THEY COULD SCAN THEM FROM ANYWHERE. I DID IT BECAUSE I KNEW WE WERE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION, SO THAT IS THE VIDEO THAT IS WE ARE GOING TO WORK ON. YOU CAN SEE SOME SAMPLES THERE THAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST. GREAT PRINT.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TOUCH EVERY SINGLE RESIDENT.

THE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO GET THIS IN THEIR MAIL BOCKES.

... MAILBOX THERE. WILL BE ONE POSTCARD AT LEAST.

POTENTIALLY. TWO IT IS ABOUT $10,000.

WE CAN DO ONE FOR BOND AND ONE FOR CHARTER.

OR WE CAN DO ONE THAT HAS BOTH ON IT.

AND THEN FLYERS THAT WILL BE IN ALL OF OUR FACILITIES.

AT ALL OF OUR OUR SPECIAL EVENTS.

AND THEN DOOR POSTERS AS WELL IN OUR FACILITIES.

DOES COUNCIL HAVE A PREFERENCE AS WE GO KIND OF CONSENSUS ON WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE ONE CHARTER AMENDMENT POSTCARD AND ONE FACILITY BOND POSTCARD? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THEM BOTH

ON ONE POSTCARD? >> I THINK YOU LIMIT YOURSELF IF YOU ARE DOING BOTH. ON THE CONTENT.

SO I THINK DOING BOTH GIVES YOU MORE SPACE TO WORK WITH CONTENT IN EDUCATION. THAT IS MY OPINION.

>> I AGREE. YOU CAN CONFUSE PEOPLE IF YOU GIVE THEM TOO MUCH INFORMATION IN TOO COMPACT OF A FORMAT.

I WOULD PREFER THE. TWO.

>> HOW SOON WOULD THEY BE GOING OUT?

TOGETHER. >> WE COULD DO THAT.

ABSOLUTELY. WE COULD STAGGER THEM TO GO OUT.

>> THESE WILL GO TO HOMES IN APRIL.

YOU WANT THEM TO HIT RIGHT BEFORE THE ELECTION.

RIGHT? WE ABSOLUTELY COULD STAGGER

THEM. >> THAT CONTINGENCY PLAN LISTENS THE EXPERIENCE IS YOU CAN'T ALWAYS RELY ON THE DATE THEY

GET... >> YES.

>> REMIND ME, IN BOTH CASES, THE PROPOSITIONS ARE LETTERED.

RIGHT? A, B, C.

SOMEWHERE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WILL BE...

>> EVERY EDUCATION PIECE WE DO TITLES THEM BY PROPOSITION A, WHAT IT IS, AND THE AMOUNT. AND SO ON.

ABSOLUTELY. >> CHARTER PROPOSITION.

>> WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT IS CLEAR.

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>> IF THE PREFERENCE OF COUNCIL OVERALL IS TO SEND TWO, I'M PERSONALLY A FAN OF SENDING ONE. IF THE PREFERENCE IS TO SEND TWO, I WOULD RATHER HAVE ONE BE BOND-FOCUSED BUT HAVE SOME CHARTER INFORMATION AND THEN SOME BOND INFORMATION WITH THE QR CODE. LIKE 75-25.

IN BOTH CASES. YOU CAPTURE MORE PEOPLE THAT WAY. BECAUSE THE ODDS OF IT JUST GETTING THROWN AWAY OR HOPEFULLY RECYCLED IS... YOU KNOW, I THINK FAIRLY HIGH. BECAUSE IT IS A SOLICITATION.

THERE IS GOING TO BE FLYERS FROM OTHER AGENCIES TALKING ABOUT BOND ELECTIONS THEY MIGHT BE HAVING AS WELL.

AND... THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY. I DON'T THINK THERE IS A LOT OF SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES ON THE CHARTER.

IN TERMS OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE EDUCATED ABOUT.

THE BOND IS HUGE. IF WE WERE SPENDING THAT MONEY, I WOULD RATHER DO TWO. AND HAVE THEM BOTH BE ABOUT THE BOND. SPLIT THEM UP TO THE PROPOSITIONS. WE CAN COME UP WITH A UNIQUE W WAY. WE CAN ALSO DO ON-LINE ADVERTISEMENT AND DO OUR NORMAL SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS.

HEY, LOOK OUT. IT IS GOING TO BE COMING THIS WEEK. MORE INFORMATION.

TO ME, THE BOND IS WHAT'S IMPORTANT.

THE CHARTER, THAT IS $10,000. THAT IS PRETTY MINOR.

FOR CHANGES. IF WE ARE GOING TO SPEND THAT MONEY, LET'S PUT IT TOWARD THE BOND.

THAT WOULD BE MY OPINION. >> DO WE HAVE ANY DATA AROUND THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE PRINT? THE DISTRIBUTION VERSUS ON-LINE?

>> WELL, I MEAN, IT DEPENDS ON THE DEMOGRAPHIC.

RIGHT? LIKE, I KNOW IN SOME CAMPAIGNS, YOU LIMIT YOUR DEMOGRAPHIC TO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO TYPICALLY

READ MAIL MATERIAL. >> THE GOAL OF THESE IS TO HIT EVERY SINGLE PERSON. AND EVERY SINGLE PERSON IS GOING TO SEE IT DIFFERENTLY. WE WILL HAVE SOME THAT WILL ONLY GET IT IN THE MAIL. WE WILL HAVE SOME THAT ONLY SEE IT ON-LINE. AND THAT IS WHY WE TRY TO DIVERSIFY IT. IT IS HARD TO TELL WHICH ONE IS MORE EFFECTIVE. IT IS GOING TO BE BASED ON

POPULATION, TO BE HONEST. >> SO I HAVE A FEAR THAT LAST TIME WE TOOK THE CHARTER OR THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME TOOK THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS A LITTLE BIT FOR GRANTED, AND THEY WEREN'T GIVEN ANY ATTENTION REALLY AT ALL, AND THE RESULT WAS THE MAJORITY OF THEM FAILED. I KNOW THAT THESE ARE QUITE A BIT MORE MINOR. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE PERHAPS QUITE AS CONTROVERSIAL.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT COUNCIL COMPENSATION.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TERM LIMITS.

THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. THOSE TEND TO BE MORE INCENDIARY. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD JUST IGNORE IT AND HOPE ALL THE ITEMS PASS EITHER.

I MEAN, IF WE CAN CARVE OUT A PIECE OF THE FLYERS, IF WE ARE GOING TO SEND TWO AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE BOND-FOCUSED, IF WE CAN CARVE OUT A PIECE THAT SAYS, HEY, WE ARE ALSO HAVING A CHART ELECTION, WE SHOULD PUT THE COUNCIL PLACES ON THERE AS WELL.

SO PEOPLE KNOW WE HAVE A COUNCIL ELECTION COMING UP.

THERE IS IMMENSE VALUE IN PROMOTING THE BOND NEEDS.

WELL, I THINK YOU CAN GET THE INFORMATION ON THERE.

THEY ARE ALSO SHOOTING FOR $1.2 BILLION ALMOST.

>> JEFF, I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK LAST YEAR, WE DID TAKE IT FOR GRANTED A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD DO THAT THIS YEAR WITH THE CHARTER ELECTION.

WE ARE TBOIG TO BE USING A LOT OF MEDIA.

DIFFERENT PLATFORMS TO BE ABLE TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT WHICH AS ANDY SAID, WE NEED TO DO ANYWAY. I THINK YOU SEND ONE SEPARATE WITH MAYBE MENTIONING THE OTHER STUFF.

LIKE YOU SAID, FLIP IT LIKE. THAT I THINK IT IS A GREAT

SUGGESTION. >> WE HAVE MORE IN PRINT.

>> I DO, ABSOLUTELY. I JUST WANTED SOME THOUGHTS ON

POSTCARDS. >> ANGIE, CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE, THOUGH? I WANTED TO MENTION... YEAH, THE VIDEO. SO WHERE YOU SAID IT IS ONE FOR EACH PROPOSITION. SO ONE THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS KIND OF A LITTLE BIT MORE IN-DEPTH.

I MEAN, YOU HAVE YOUR SUMMARY ELECTION INTERVIEW OR OVERVIEW WHICH SHOULD NOT BE MORE THAN THREE MINUTES REALLY.

EACH PROPOSITION, WHAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE COMMUNICATION STAFF, IS KIND OF MORE IN DEPTH SO PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE PROBLEMS THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY HAVING IN SOME OF THESE FACILITIES. SOME OF THE CRACKS.

THE BROKEN WALLS. YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE STRESS THAT IS ON THOSE FACILITIES. I THINK THAT IS THE KIND OF STUFF THAT WE ARE HOPING THAT PEOPLE WILL TUNE IN TO.

AND KIND OF UNDERSTAND. EVEN IF WE OFFER TOURS, NOT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO WANT TO DO THAT.

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>> THIS IS THE MOST CHALLENGING PART.

REGARDING VIDEOS AND EDUCATION MATERIAL.

THE TIMING OF THE VIDEO. YOU HAVE TO KEEP IT SHORT.

BUT VERY EFFECTIVE. THAT IS REALLY, REALLY HARD WHEN WE HAVE... WE COULD SHOW ALL KINDS OF ISSUES IN OUR FACILITIES. YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH THE TIME YOU HAVE. AND YOU CAN'T HAVE A 17-MINUTE VIDEO OR A 20-MINUTE VIDEO. IT HAS TO BE, LIKE, AT MOST, AND THIS IS EVEN STILL STRETCHING IT, FIVE MINUTES.

THAT IS STILL STRETCHING IT. >> YOU WOULDN'T WANT A 30-MINUTE VIDEO WITH EVERYTHING. YOU BREAK IT UP INTO BITE-SIZED PIECES. THEN I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET THAT OUT, THOSE MESSAGES OUT.

THE ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD MAY WANT TO TAKE ON, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ANIMAL SHELTER. THEY MAY WANT TO PROMOTE THAT TO A DIFFERENT GROUP OF PEOPLE THAN WE ARE GOING TO PROMOTE TO.

ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T GLOSS OVER THAT AS WE WENT THROUGH. THAT I THINK YOU NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL PROPOSITION.

>> THEN SPECIAL PROJECTS, THE SPOTLIGHT IN APRIL.

AN ELECTION OVERVIEW THAT, WE CALL THE ELECTION.

THE HIGHLIGHTS LATE MARCH. BOND PROJECTS, EARLY APRIL.

CHARTER AMENDMENTS, LATE APRIL. WE ARE HITTING THOSE POD-CASTS WITH EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON.

AND THEN THE POTENTIAL TO DO A PUBLIC MEETING IN APRIL.

WHETHER THAT IS... WE TALKED ABOUT HERE IN CITY HALL DOING THAT TYPE OF PUBLIC MEETING. WHERE WE ARE DOING THAT EDUCATION PROCESS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND REACHING PEOPLE HOW THEY COME AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT IS ALSO DONE ON FACEBOOK LIVE. WE HAVE SUCCESS WITH THAT.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT OPTION.

DIRECT OUTREACH, OF COURSE. EMAIL BLASTS.

WE WILL ATTEND EVERY BOARD AND COMMISSION MEETING.

CHAMBER APRIL LUNCHEON. WE WILL TALK TO MICHAEL ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE THE PRESENTER AS MUCH AS WE CAN BE.

MAC MEETINGS, WE HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST WITH A LOT OF SUCCESS. WE HAVE LUNCH ON THE LAWN.

WE HAVE THESE THINGS COMING UP. WE WANT TO TAKE EVERY OPPORTUNITY WE CAN DIRECTLY FACE-TO-FACE WITH FOLKS TO EDUCATE THEM ABOUT THE UPCOMING ELECTIONS.

THAT IS BOTH ELECTIONS. I'M NOT SINGLING OUT ONE OR THE OTHER. IT IS BOTH ELECTIONS.

TIMELINE, FEBRUARY. WE ARE CALLING THE ELECTION TONIGHT. AND EARLY NEXT WEEK, MID-NEXT WEEK, WE WILL SEND MESSAGES IMMEDIATELY.

NOTIFIES SOCIAL MEDIA. ROWLETT NEWS.

THE FRIDAY AT 5:00 NEXT WEEK. THE CITY HALL SIGN.

TO TELL PEOPLE WE HAVE CALLED THE ELECTION.

THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN GET OUT INSTANTLY.

UNTIL WE HAVE ALL THE PRETTY PICTURES.

RIGHT? MARCH, WE WILL START DOING ALL OF THE MEETINGS. WE WILL ATTEND IT.

IT WILL BE MYSELF AND OUR NEW CIP MANAGER.

SHE CAN START TO GET TO KNOW SOME OF THESE FOLKS AS WELL.

AND GO TO THE BNC MEETINGS AND DO A PRESENTATION ABOUT THE UPCOMING ELECTION. CHAMBER MAC MEETINGS.

POSTERS FOR BUILDINGS. FLYERS AT FACILITIES AND BUSINESSES. OUR CHARTER AND BOND VIDEOS.

OUR WEBSITE. IT COULD TAKE SEVERAL WEEKS FOR US TO GET THAT UP. AND THEN THE POD-CAST AS WELL.

THEN APRIL AGAIN. ANY MEETINGS WE MISS, WE DON'T WANT TO START RIGHT AT THE FIRST OF MARCH.

IT MAY START, LIKE, MID-MARCH AND APRIL.

WE WANT TO HIT IT BEFORE EARLY VOTING.

WE WANT IT FRESH IN THEIR MIND. PUBLIC MEETING, EARLY APRIL.

WE ARE KICKING AROUND WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE.

RIGHT? THAT IS NOT SET IN STONE YET.

WE NEED TO SIT DOWN WITH THE POLICE CHIEF AND ANIMAL SERVICES AND YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE WE DO THIS THE RIGHT WAY.

AND WE ARE NOT OPENING UP ANY OF OUR FACILITIES TO SECURITY RISKS. OBVIOUSLY.

AGAIN, THE CHAMBER LUNCHEON. AND SOME ADDITIONAL POD-CAST MENTIONS. THEN THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ONGOING. WE WILL KEEP REMINDING FOLKS OVER AND OVER AND OVER. THE BOND WEBSITE.

THE CHARTER WEBSITE. WEB PAGE.

DENISE TOLD ME TO SAY WEB PAGE. NOT WEBSITE.

THERE YOU GO. SOCIAL MEDIA, CONTINUALLY GETTING THAT ACROSS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ONE MESSAGE THAT EVERY DEPARTMENT IS SHARING THAT SAME MESSAGE. RIGHT? OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM WILL CREATE THAT.

IT WILL BE STANDARDMENT IT WILL BE SOMETHING PEOPLE SEE OVER AND OVER AND OVER THAT LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME.

SO THEY REMEMBER THAT THAT IS WHAT THAT IS.

OUR DIGITAL SIGN OUT FRONT. OUR FRIDAY AT 5:00.

REMEMBER, WE NOT ONLY HAVE A VIDEO.

WE HAVE A NEWSLETTER THAT ATTACHES TO THAT.

AND THEN SOME DEPARTMENTS THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT NEWSLETTERS. PARKS DOES, FOR SURE.

THEY SEND OUT A LOT OF EMAILS. AND SO WE WILL MAKE SMEUR THAT THIS IS INCLUDED IN THAT WHEN WE HAVE THAT.

AND REALLY, SHORT AND SWEET. THAT IS HOW WE ARE GOING TO ROLL

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THIS OUT. WE WILL SHARE AS WE DEVELOP F, YOU KNOW, CONTENT. THE MAIN QUESTION WE HAVE IS HOW YOU WANT TO HANDLE THE POSTCARDS.

AND WHAT OTHER IDEAS DO YOU MAYBE HAVE FOR EDUCATING OUR

CITIZENS. >> HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THOSE BULLETINS AT THE CORNERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT?

>> ARE YOU TAKING NOTES? >> SEPARATE SIGNS.

JUST TO SEE THE LINK. >> YOU COULD DO A QR CODE.

YOU COULD SCAN IT. >> A QR CODE AND A LINK.

>> YES. SURE.

>> THE LOCATIONS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR THOSE, BECAUSE I HAVE ROWLETT SIGN THAT IS GO UP FOR EVERY EVERY ELECTION.

THEY ARE JUST VOTE ROWLETT. THE POSITIONS THAT THEY ARE IN, AT THE LOCATIONS WE CAN PUT THEM IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO THAT.

I WOULD JUST SAY ROWLETT.COM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> WE WILL FIGURE OUT THE RIGHT... OUR TEAM HAS THAT.

THEY USE THEM FOR MOST OF THEIR EVENTS.

WE WILL FIND OUT THE RIGHT VERBAGE.

>> I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT WHILE YOU ARE TRYING TO TARGET EVERYBODY AND TO GET THE WORD OUT TO EVERYBODY, A LOT OF THE DECISIONS ARE MADE BASED ON WORD OF MOUTH. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HEAR FROM OTHER PEOPLE, AND THEY VOTE ACCORDING TO PEOPLE THEY TRUST.

I THINK ENGAGING THE KEY PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT THERE WHO HAVE LOTS OF CONTACTS, I THINK YOU NEED TO TARGET THOSE PEOPLE,

IN PARTICULAR. >> WHAT ABOUT CERTAIN H.O.A.'S? ACTIVE H.O.A.S. HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT REACHING AUTOTO THOSE AND ATTENDING... HECK, SOME OF US COULD ATTEND AS

WELL. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> ANGD YOU KNOW, DIVIDE AND CONQUER.

RIGHT? H.O.A.'S, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE OUR COMMUNITY. .

>> I'M SURE NEIGHBORHOOD LIFE HAS A LOT OF THOSE CONTACTS BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM.

ABSOLUTELY. >> YUP.

THERE IS ANOTHER DEMOGRAPHIC THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT.

THE LAST-MINUTE DEMOGRAPHIC. THEY ARE GOING TO WALK UP TO THE POLLING PLACE EITHER DURING EARLY VOTING FROM APRIL 24 TO MAY 2 OR ON VOTING DAY AND WONDER, WHAT ARE THESE THINGS? I'LL JUST READ THEM AND FIGURE IT OUT.

>> EXACTLY. IT HAPPENS.

>> SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE PRETTY COMPLEX.

SO IF WE CAN THINK ABOUT SOME WAY TO HAVE INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO THOSE WHO ARE WALKING UP.

>> YES. I WAS GOING TO SAY ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD A TENT SET UP WITH INFORMATION, SOMEBODY THERE... I COULD BE THERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

AND EDUCATE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE QUESTIONS.

SOME OF US COULD DIVIDE THAT UP AND BE THERE AS WELL AND EDUCATE AND ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR PUBLIC WHO ARE COMING UP.

I AGREE WITH YOU. WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME PRESENCE

HERE DURING THE VOTING. >> AT LEAST ONE PERSON TELLING ME THAT, WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE SO I VOTED

AGAINST THEM ALL. >> YES.

>> DOES THE BONDING AGENT CIG HAVE TO APPROVE EVERYTHING WE

DO? >> NO.

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS. >> NO.

IT IS NOT A FORMAL APPROVAL. YOU KNOW, IT IS BASICALLY... WE HAVE TO STEER... AND THEY ARE AN ULTRA CONSERVE TY GROUP.

IT IS TO KEEP US OUT OF JAIL. TO EDUCATING.

WE CAN EDUCATE. WE CANNOT ADVOCATE.

WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT ADVOCATING ON TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

>> RIGHT. >> AND TAXPAYER TIME.

>> RIGHT. >> SO I KNOW, LIKE, IF YOU MENTIONED A TENT, DURING EARLY VOTING AND STUFF, YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY SHOULD... THE ELECTION RULES MAY APPLY FOR HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU CAN FEED AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA. PEOPLE COME BY LAST MINUTE SOMETIMES. LIKE BRIAN SAID.

>> IT HAPPENS. >> JSD DOES IT AS WELL.

THEY SEND TEACHERS OUT TO STAND AROUND AND ANSWER QUESTIONS AND PASS OUT FLYERS WITH EDUCATION MATERIAL.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER THAT AS WELL.

FOR EARLY VOTING AND ELECTIONÚD. DEFINITELY ELECTION DAY.

IF NOT EARLY VOTING. >> WE CAN MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH BROCHURES, FLYERS AND POSTCARDS THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME ON HAND TO MEET WITH H.O.A.'S AND TO DO OTHER STUFF, TOO.

AND NOT JUST...... AND GET SOME OF THOSE NOT TAXPAYER-FUNDED ORGANIZATIONS WHO CAN EDUCATE. EDUCATE THEM ON THE FACT THAT THEY CAN DO THIS. THAT THEY CAN HAND OUT THEIR O

OWN... >> YES.

THE POLICE AND FIRE ASSOCIATION WILL BE, YOU KNOW IN, TOUCH WITH THEM SOON. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, DISBLAWL

IDEAS? >> IF YOU THINK OF SOMETHING AFTER THIS MEETING, YOU ALL KNOW HOW TO FIND ME.

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SHOOT ME AN EMAIL. MAKE SURE DENISE, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT INCORPORATED.

THERE IS NOT ENOUGH. RIGHT? THE MORE WE HAVE, THE BET EVERRER.

RIGHT? THE GREAT THING ABOUT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, YOU REACH A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CIRCLES OF INFLUENCE. THEIR CIRCLES OF INFLUENCE ON EACH BOARD, YOU HAVE 10-13 DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH. AND WE WILL REMIND THOSE AS WELL THAT IT IS EDUCATION, BUT THEY CAN GO OUT TO THEIR INDIVIDUAL GROUPS AND SHARE THAT INFORMATION.

WE HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS WITH THE CIPTF WHEN THEY VISITED THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, TAKING FLYERS WITH US.

>> BUT I THINK THIS EDUCATION CAMPAIGN IS VERY GOOD.

I MEAN, THERE IS A LOT OF GOOD STUFF HERE.

A LOT OF GOOD OPPORTUNITY, TOO TO, YOU KNOW... PEOPLE DON'T JUST WANT TO LEARN ABOUT BOND STUFF.

THEY MAY ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT OTHER THINGS.

THTHERE IS A RESOURCE. TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WELL.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IDEAS?

COMMENTS? >> I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ME HOW MUCH... MANY PEOPLE JUST WANT TO KNOW

HOW MUCH IT IS. >> I'LL SEND AN EMAIL TO YOU GUYS. WITH ALL THE NUMBERS.

PROBABLY TOMORROW. I'LL SHARE IT WITH YOU.

>> I MIGHT SUGGEST LET'S BREAK IT OUT BASED UPON ASSESSED VA VALUE. I'M THINKING YOU HAVE ASSESSED VALUE. THE PROPOSAL.

>> A $250,000 HOUSE. SOMEBODY SAYS, WELL, YEAH, MY

HOUSE IS WORTH MORE THAN THAT. >> THEN THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS IF YOU CAN FIND SOMETHING TO COMPARE THAT TO IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. AND WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN TERMS OF SIMILAR FACILITIES: AND WHAT IMPACT THOSE HAD.

>> GOOD IDEA. >> ON THOSE JURISDICTIONS.

SO WE SEE WHETHER WE ARE IN LINE OR NOT WITH THAT.

>> I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT FOR OUR OWN INFORMATION AT LEAST.

>> I DON'T KNOW. >> LIKE I WAS TELLING SOMEONE TODAY, I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE STUFF.

THEY WENT OUT WITH A $10 MILLION BOND PROGRAM FOR THREE

FACILITIES. >> THEY HAVE MORE MONEY THAN WE

DO. >> THEY DO HAVE MORE MONEY.

>> A LOT MORE. >> I DO THINK THE IDEA OF A MATRIX IS A GOOD ONE. WE WILL PUT IT TOGETHER LIKE THAT AND SEND IT OUT TO Y'ALL. WE CAN DO THAT.

BUT I THINK WHAT WE WILL DO, AND ANGIE WILL SHARE WHAT SHE HAS FIRST. THEN WE WILL DO THE MATRIX THAT

WE CAN ALSO SHARE. >> YOU KNOW, THERE IS SOME PLUG-IN ADD-ONS TO WEBSITES THAT MAYBE ARE OUT THERE WHERE YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH IT IS A CALCULATION THAT YOU TYPE IN.

YOU CAN TYPE IN YOUR ASSESSED VALUE.

YOU GET THE AMOUNT OF EXACTLY HOW MUCH YOU ARE EXPECTED TO OWE. SOMETHING WORTH LOOKING INTO.

IF THERE IS A PLUG-IN WIJT WE CAN ADD TO THE WEB PAGE.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THEN YOU CAN TYPE IN YOUR PREVIOUS ASSESSED VALUE, GET THE REAL NUMBER.

>> THAT IS WHAT THEY HAVE FOR REAL ESTATE.

>> WE WILL SEE WHAT WE CAN FIND. >> PROGRAMCALLY, THAT WOULDN'T

BE DIFFICULT. >> THERE WILL BE A COST TO THAT.

>> WE WILL DO SOME RESEARCH. >> IT SHOULD BE PRETTY STRAIGHT

FORWARD. >> YEAH.

I MEAN, THE BUTTON POPS THE SCREEN UP.

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT STUFF WORKS EITHER.

>> I WILL TRUST Y'ALL. A GOOD CODER CAN DO THAT.

WE WILL TRY TO FIND ONE. (LAUGHTER).

>> THAT WOULD BE A NEAT FEATURE TO HAVE ON THE WEBSITE.

>> WE WILL SEE WHAT WE CAN FIND. .

>> YES. >> I THINK BRIAN, I WOULD VEER AWAY FROM COMPARING US TO OTHER CITIES.

I SAY THAT ONLY BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS TO OUR RESIDENTS WHAT ANOTHER CITY PAYS.

THEY ARE GOING TO BE LOOK AT THE IMPACT ON ME, MY SITUATION.

NOT HOW IT COMPARES TO ANYBODY ELSE.

>> I WAS THINKING MORE IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL COST OF THE

PROJECT. >> OH.

OH. IS $60 MILLION... ARE WE BUILDING THE TAJ MAHAL OR IS THAT WHAT THINGS COST NOW?

>> YEAH. >> SO REMEMBER, WHEN WE HAD THE PRESENTATION LAST WEEK, I SHARED THAT.

THAT FIGURE CAME FROM THE BUILDING OF SEVERAL OTHER BUILDINGS. THAT IS HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE

COST. >> RIGHT.

WE ARE BEING REASONABLE HERE. BASED UPON WHAT WE SAW ORIGINALLY FROM THE CONSULTANT, WE HAVE TRIMMED DOWN SOME OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. TO MANAGE THAT COST AND TRY TO KEEP IT... WE HAVE HAD THIS HUGE INFLATION IN CONSTRUCTION COSTS THE COUPLE OF... THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAS BUILT ANYTHING.

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IT IS GOING TO BE A BIG PRICE TAG.

IT IS NOT GOING TO GET ANY SMALLER THROO YEARS FROM NOW.

>> POLICE DEPARTMENTS ARE EXPENSIVE.

YOU HAVE TO BUILD A JAIL SYSTEM. A COURT SYSTEM.

I MEAN,... >> AND ALL THE TECH.

YOU KNOW? THERE IS A LOT OF COMPUTERS AND STUFF THAT GOES WITH THAT. NOT CHEAP.

>> YES. >> OKAY.

>> YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. >> RIGHT.

IF YOU TRY TO GO CHEAP IN THE BEGINNING, YOU END UP PAYING

MORE OVER THE LONG RUN. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS ON THIS? ARE WE, I GUESS, IF NOT, WE WILL TAKE A MOTION. NO MOTION?

>> THIS IS MORE OF A WORK SESSION ITEM, IF YOU WILL.

>> THIS IS A DISCUSSION. >> WE NEEDED TO APPROVE THE DESCRIPTION. POSTCARDS?

TWO POSTCARDS? >> YES.

>> FOCUS BOTH ON MAILING, AND BOND.

>> GUYS, I THINK WE GOT WHAT WE NEEDED.

>> AWESOME. THANK YOU, ANGIE.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> THANK YOU, DENISE.

>> IT IS 6:12

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