Mar 28, 2023 Planning and Zoning Commission

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GENTLEMEN. WELCOME TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF TUESDAY, MARCH 28. WE HAD A WORK SESSION NEXT DOOR SO WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING. IT IS 7:12 PM AND WE ARE GOING TO RESUME WITH ITEM 3 ON OUR JET IS THE CITIZEN INPUT. AT THIS TIME WE WILL TAKE THREE-MINUTE COMMENTS FROM ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE ON ANY TOPIC IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON A SPECIFIC ITEM ON THE AGENDA AND YOU WANT A WAY TO THAT ITEM COMES UP. FOR NOW THIS IS JUST OUR REGULAR CITIZENS AND ND PAT. WE WILL MISS ITEM NUMBER FOUR. THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[4. CONSENT AGENDA]

I WAS NOT PRESENT. DID ANYONE THAT WAS PRESENT AT THE CHANCE AND WE HAVE ANY

CHANGES? I AM READY FOR A MOTION. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE

THE MARCH 14, 2023 MINUTES AS WRITTEN.>> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR APPROVAL OF

THE MINUTES BY MS. WILLIAMS. DO I HAVE A SECOND. >> AND MISTER CONTE.

THOSE IN FAVOR. WE HAVE SIX YES AND ONE ABSTENTION BY ME BECAUSE I WAS NOT HERE. THAT ITEM

[5A. Conduct a public hearing and make a recommendation to City Council regarding a request by Maxwell Fisher, Zone Dev, on behalf of property owner Avalon Sunset, LLC, regarding a Development Plan with Major Warrants to Article 2.4.6, Article 2.8.6, Article 3.1.3, and Appendix 1.1 to allow the use of Self Storage and related development conditions on property zoned FormBased Urban Village (FB-UV) District. The 1.979-acre property is situated northwest of the intersection of Sunset Boulevard and Dalrock Road, Lot 1A, Block C of the Bayside East Addition, in the City of Rowlett, Dallas County, Texas.]

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IT WILL LOOK LIKE AN OFFICE AND YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THROUGH IT.

THE TOP LEVEL WORTHY OFFICES THE 23,000 FT.? OFFICE IS TINTED LIKE YOU WOULD FOR AN OFFICE BUILDING SO THOSE PATRONS WOULD HAVE A TINTED GLASS LIKE YOU WOULD EXPECT.

YOU SEE THE VIEW FROM MY 30 AND YOU WILL SEE IT WITH THE SIZE. HERE'S AN OBLIQUE VIEW LOOKING WEST ACROSS DULL ROCK AND THIS SHOWS YOU THAT IT'S OUT WITH THE HOTEL AND THE MULTI FAMILY AND RETAIL. THIS IS MORE OF A CITY COUNCIL. WE ARE PROJECTING A $19 MILLION DEVELOPMENT WITH A 45 INCREASE IN AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAXES. THAT INCLUDES HUNDRED AND $32,000 FOR THE CITY ANNUALLY. THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY RETAIL SALES TAX.

YOU'LL ALSO HAVE THAT FOCUSES A PRETTY BIG IMPACT NOT TO MENTION THE JOBS THAT IT WOULD CREATE WITH AN OFFICE USER ON THE TOP FLOOR. I WILL SUMMARIZE.

THIS IS A CHALLENGE PARTIALLY WE BELIEVE WE'VE MET THE URBAN VILLAGE DISTRICT AS MUCH AS WE CAN. WE ARE ASKING FOR SOME MORE ON THE SELF STORAGE COMPONENT USE IS OBSCURED. IT'S SORT OF EMBEDDED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND WE'VE HAD IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. WE PROVIDE SELF STORAGE THAT'S NEEDED IN THE AREA AND WE ALSO ASK YOU TO FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS ON THIS. THE TWO ITEMS THAT WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY DON'T AGREE WITH STAFF ON THE PARKING. THERE WAS MADE MENTION THAT A COMPROMISE WAS THERE AND THE PROBLEM WAS THAT IS IF YOU POSE THE RATIO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD THE PROJECT BECAUSE WE REQUIRE SO MUCH PARKING. IN MY 20 YEARS IN THIS INDUSTRY HAVE NEVER SEEN A SELF STORAGE DEVELOPMENT GO TO AN OFFICE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE SELF STORAGE IS SUCH A GREAT BUSINESS MODEL. I HAVE SEEN HER USE PROJECT THAT I'VE WORKED ON WHERE YOU SEEN AN OFFICE BUILDING GO OUT AND IT'S GONE TO SELF STORAGE OR ANOTHER TYPE OF BUSINESS. YOU JUST DON'T SEE IT GO THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

YOU'LL NEVER GET HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING EVER TO BE MARKETABLE IN THIS LOCATION. THIS IS A HUGE NUMBER OF JOBS AND YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO PARK IT ON THIS SITE AND SO IT JUST PRESENT A LOT OF CHALLENGES.

WE THINK WE'VE RIGHT SIZED THE AMOUNT OF RETAIL AND OFFICE THAT WE DO HAVE THAT WE CAN FILL OUT BECAUSE WE WILL BE OWNING THIS BUILDING. WE HAVE SEVERAL PARCELS AND WE SELL THIS OFF TO GET RID OF IT. THIS IS A VERTICAL INTEGRATIVE BUILDING SO WE NEED TO BE VERY CONFIDENT ON WHAT WE CAN BUILD AND WHAT WE CAN FILL UP AND SO WE WOULD NEVER HAVE A SEVEN STORY ONLY OFFICE BUILDING ON THE SIDE. THE OTHER ITEM IS THE SIDEWALK ALONG DULL ROCK. WE ARE PROPOSING THAT THE MONEY BE PUT IN ESCROW.

THE REASON IS THERE IS NO LOGICAL CONNECTION NORTH ACROSS THE TRACKS RIGHT NOW SO WE

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IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GETTING AWAY FROM PAYING THE CITY WITH THE COST IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO DO IT RIGHT NOW. WE DID AGREE TO DO THE STREETLIGHTS ALONG MUSIC THING SIDEWALK SO YOU AT LEAST YOU WILL HAVE STREETLIGHTS ALONG THERE.

THERE ARE THREE OR FOUR THAT ARE REQUIRED ALONG DULL ROCK. IN THE EVENT THAT THE COMMISSION TOOK ISSUE WITH THAT WE CAN RECONSIDER PUTTING IN AN 8 FOOT SIDEWALK WITH TREES BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE RIGHT NOW THE CONNECTION TO THE NORTH. I WILL STOP THERE AND BE ABLE

TO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >>. >> COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS

FOR THE APPLICANT? >> HE SAID THIS IS CONFIDENT IN THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF RETAIL AND OFFICE THAT YOU CAN LIVE WITH YOUR PROPOSED PARKING? IF WE DECIDE THAT WE AGREE WITH YOU AND MAKE A CONTINGENT THAT THE FLOORS TWO THROUGH SIX REMAINS SELF STORAGE OR AGREE WITH THAT UNLESS FLOORS TWO THROUGH SIX DON'T REMAIN SELF STORAGE WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH

THAT? >> YES WE WENT. IN THE FUTURE LET'S SAY THE SELF STORAGE WE COULDN'T FILL IT UP. IT CAME BACK AND WE ASKED FOR AN OFFICER FOR THE OCCUPANCY. IT WOULD NEVER GET APPROVED BECAUSE WE NEVER PROVIDE THE

PARKING REQUIREMENT TO THAT. >> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING. WE WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO OCCUPY THOUGHT. THE SELF STORAGE IS ONE OF THE BEST BUSINESS MODELS THAT

EXIST. >> IF YOU ARE CONFIDENT AND NOT WITH WHICH YOU ARE TELLING ME YOU ARE THEN YOU WOULDN'T MIND IF WE APPROVED YOUR REQUEST CONTINGENT ON FLOORS

TWO THROUGH SIX REMAINING SELF STORAGE. >> I'M JUST CURIOUS.

WHERE DO YOU THINK YOURSELF STORAGE BUSINESS IS GOING TO COME FROM IN THAT AREA?

>> TYPICALLY ARE SELF STORAGE DOESN'T LIKE TO TRAVEL MORE THAN A COUPLE OF MILES TYPICALLY AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE A SELF STORAGE FACILITY THAT'S THIS IT PROVIDES A LITTLE MORE ACCESS. IT HAS SORT OF ELONGATED BECAUSE PEOPLE GET THEIR FROM

OTHER COMMUNITIES. >> IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THAT. >> MY QUESTION IS BECAUSE I'VE COME ACROSS THIS HAS OTHER ISSUES AND OTHER STORAGE FACILITIES.

HOW MANY ELEVATORS WILL BE IN EACH OF THE BUILDINGS BECAUSE WHEREVER I GO THEY ARE BROKE DOWN. IF YOU HAVE ANY WANT ONLY WHEN YOU HAVE AN ISSUE.

>> WE ARE PROPOSING A SEPARATE ELEGANT LEADER FOR THE OFFICE AND THEN WE HAVE A MAIN ELEVATOR TO THE SELF STORAGE FACILITY IN THE LOADING AREA. WE JUST MY DON'T WANT TO CREATE ANY TENTATIVE ISSUES. WE PROVIDE ELEVATOR CAPACITY WHEN WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES IN THAT REGARD. I BELIEVE THIS IS A TEST TO ANY OFFICE HAS A SEPARATE ONE.

>> THE ONLY OTHER THOUGHT IS WHAT IS NO OTHER COMMERCIAL COMES IN FOR 10 YEARS? IN SOME YEARS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME BETTER LANDSCAPE. I LIKE YOUR IDEA THAT YOU ARE

PAYING INTO AN ESCROW BUT WHAT IF NOTHING EVER HAPPENS? >> I THINK BECAUSE THE ROCK

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FUTURE. FOR NOW IT NEEDS TO MOVE OVER. >>.

>> HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. WHERE ARE YOUR OTHER SELF STORAGE FACILITIES?

>> WILL HAVE ONE IMPROVED AND RELEVANT AND MILLERS OF THIS WOULD BE THE SAME STORAGE DEVELOPER. WE HAVE ONE IN RICHARDSON, BUCKINGHAM AND ABRAMS. THESE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE RETAIL WITH THAT SO THEIR MULTI-STORY WITH RETAIL ON THE GROUND FLOOR. WE HAVE SEVERAL THAT ARE JUST SELF STORAGE ONLY.

SEVERAL THAT ARE INTEGRATED MIXED-USE AND IS A NUMBER I CAN KEEP GOING IF YOU WANT ME TO.

>> ANOTHER QUESTION. WHY DO YOU WANT TO CONCEAL THAT IT'S A STORAGE FACILITY AND

MAKE IT LOOK LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING? >> BECAUSE THE FORM-BASED CODE REQUIRES IT TO BE A RETAIL OFFICE TYPE OF LUCK AND SO WE WANTED TO LOOK LIKE AN OFFICE

IT'S JUST A BETTER AESTHETIC. >> IN THIS CLASS WHAT IS THE THICKNESS OF THE GLASS THAT YOU

ARE PROPOSING? >> BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW. YOU CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD BUT YOU

WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THROUGH IT. >> HAVE A QUARTER INCH AND THEY HAVE 1 INCH.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S 1 INCH BUT I CAN CHECK INTO THAT. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO

THAT. >> WOULD THERE BE INSULATION? WOULD YOU BE INSTALLING

INSTALLATION? >> THERE WILL BE INSULATION TO 70 WILL BE LIVING THERE YOU DON'T HAVE THE SCENE INSULATION STANDARDS. WE WOULD HAVE TO MEET MEET THE

BUILDING CODE AND REQUIREMENTS. >> THE RESTAURANT SHOWS ITS 2500 FT.? AND THE PATIO IS 490 FT.?. HOW MANY TABLES AND CHAIRS WILL FIT ON A 490 FT.? PATIO THAT

DOESN'T SEEM VERY LARGE TO ME. >> IT IS SOMEWHAT LIMITED. IT'S BASED ON YOUR CODE REQUIREMENTS OR THE PARTICULAR RESTAURANT OPERATOR AND HOW MANY THEY CAN FIT IN THERE.

THEY WILL MAXIMIZE THEIR CAPACITY. >> WOULD YOU CONSIDER INCREASING THE PATIO AREA ON THE RESTAURANT SPACE? THAT TO ME AS TO SUCH US PRIME

LOCATION. TO PUT A STORAGE FACILITY. >> THE RETAIL SUITES FROM THE RESTAURANT SUITES ARE SET UP TO WHERE IF WE GET A RESTAURANT THAT IS LARGER AND NEEDS A LARGER SPACE WE CAN MOVE THAT WALL OVER AND IT WILL JUST BE A LARGER RESTAURANT.

WE COULD POTENTIALLY MAKE THE PATIO A LITTLE LARGER AND THE PARKING VARIANCE ARE ASKING FOR

IT TO GIVE US THE FLEXIBILITY TO HAVE MORE RESTAURANTS. >> WHY WHEN YOU CONSIDER

LUXURIOUS OFFICE TOWN? VERSUS A SUB STORAGE? >> WHERE PROPOSING AS MUCH OFFICE AS WE THINK THAT CAN BE FILLED APPEAR. WE WOULD NEVER BUILD A SEVEN STORY OFFICE BUILDING. HE PROBABLY SEEN THAT SINCE COVID THERE'S BEEN A FIGHT QUALITY WITH A LOT OF OFFICE PARKS LIKE CITY LINE AND LEGACY.

PEOPLE WANT TO BE AN ESTABLISHED OFFICE PARK SO WE FEEL THAT 23,000 FT.? OF OFFICE WILL BE AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT FOR THIS LOCATION. WE WOULD NOT BE IN A POSITION

TO BUILD A SEVEN STORY OFFICE BUILDING. >> IT FLUCTUATES BASED ON MARKET DEMAND. THE INTERIOR CAN BE CHANGED AND YOU HAVE MORE 5 X 5 AND YOU CAN HAVE MORE FAT 10 X 10. THE NUMBER OF STORAGE UNITS FLUCTUATES.

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AT THE VERY LOW INTENSIVE USE. >> IS GOING TO BE 24 HOUR ACCESS?

>> WHAT ABOUT SECURITY? WHAT KIND OF SECURITY ARE YOU GOING TO PUT IN?

>> WHO HAVE CAMERAS AT SEVERAL KEY LOCATIONS. OUR BUSINESS IS KEEPING PEOPLE SO THERE'S NOT REALLY A SAFER USE. ONE BECAUSE IS NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ONTO SELF STORAGE PART. THEY ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE CUSTOMERS.

THEY ARE CONSTANTLY MONITORED FOR WHAT THEY PUT IN TO THE STORAGE FACILITY.

WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING ILLEGAL OR THAT WOULD BE A LIABILITY THAT COULD HARM SOMEONE IN OUR

FACILITIES. >> OKAY THANK YOU. >> YOU GONE TO GREAT LENGTHS TO SAY THAT THIS IS A SELF STORAGE FACILITY. ARE YOU GOING TO BLAZE ACROSS

THE BUILDING? >> BUT WE'RE WILLING TO DO IS HAVE A MEAN SIGN AT THE MIDDLE

OF THE BUILDING AT THE TOP WOULD BE THE OFFICE USER SIGN. >> IT'S A SELF USAGE SIGNAGE TO THE END. AND A LOT OF TIMES WITH SELF STORAGE AS YOU KNOW WHEN YOU SEE DOORS INSIDE OF SELF STORAGE FACILITIES THOSE ARE REAL SELF STORAGE DOORS THOSE ARE DISPLAY DOORS TO TELL YOU PIT'S A SELF STORAGE FACILITY. WE NEED TO HAVE SOME SIGNAGE

THE PEOPLE KNOW THAT IT'S A STORAGE FACILITY. >> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. AT THIS TIME IT WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS? IS ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK? ON THIS ITEM.

I AM SURPRISED. IF WE HAVE NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS.

>> JUST FOR THE RECORD I WANTED TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS NUMBER ONE I LIVE VERY CLOSE TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND I'M EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

AS YOU MAY KNOW ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO THIS USED TO BE PUBLIC LAND OWNED BY THE CITY

OF DALLAS AS A PARK THAT ME AND MY FAMILY USE. >> AS YOU WILL REMEMBER THERE WAS A LOT OF CONTROVERSY OVER THIS PARTICULAR SECTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

BECAUSE OF THE AND FOR DEVELOPMENT. WE ENVISIONED TO HAVE A FAIR

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THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL IS ONE OF MANY PARCELS THAT ARE STILL LEFT WITHIN THE BAYSIDE DEVELOPMENT AREA. IN THE AREA THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE TARGETED FOR COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL DEVELOPMENT. THE ONE HOTEL. WHAT'S THE STATUS THAT IS OPEN

FOR BUSINESS YET. ACCESS IT HAD. >> UNTIL CASES ARE DOWN ON THE LOWER LEVEL. FOR THOSE OPEN FOR BUSINESS AS WELL?

>> VERY CLOSE TO. SO THEY DON'T HAVE THE SEAL YET.

>> IS THERE ANY SPECULATION ORIENTED ANTICIPATING THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

>> WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED APPLICATIONS FOR SPECIFIC USES BUT WE DO KNOW THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE COMMERCIAL RETAIL AND MIXED-USE COMPONENT TO BE IN KEEPING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT

AGREEMENT BUT THE TERRACE THAT IS ON THE PROPERTY. >> A LOT OF CONCERNS TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT. KIND OF HARD TO EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN.

I AM APPRECIATIVE OF THE DEVELOPER WANTING TO COME IN AND BRING END OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THAT PERSON INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THAT IS THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. SOMETHING THAT PROBLEM WON'T BE DISCUSSED FOR A WHILE IN OUR COMMUNITY IS THAT RAILROAD THAT IS SPECIFICALLY RIGHT BEHIND THE STORAGE FACILITY.

RIGHT NOW IT IS AN ACTIVE RAILROAD TRACK BUT IF YOU FOLLOW THAT RAILROAD TRACK FURTHER INTO TOWN YOU WILL KNOW THAT IT TIES IN DIRECTLY WITH THE BLUE LINE OF THE DARK ROAD SYSTEM WHICH EVENTUALLY, THIS IS WHERE WE SOMETIMES HAVE TO THINK AS PLANNERS.

IT JUST STANDS TO REASON THAT FELT RAILROAD LINE WILL BE CONVERTED OVER TO BECOME AN EXTENSION OF THAT BLUE LINE. IT IS PRACTICALLY INEVITABLE AS THE DARK SYSTEM GROWS.

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BEFORE SPACE IS GOING TO BE. IS NOT A LAW? COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN HERE.

THE OFFICE LAND USES, AND A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS AND I WILL SAY THAT THERE IS A HUGE DEMAND IN THIS AREA QUALITY OFFICE SPACE. MY OFFICE SPACE IS NOT THAT FAR FROM HERE. I WOULD ABSOLUTELY HAVE NO PROBLEM SEEING MORE OFTEN THESE WERE CONDOMINIUM COMPLEX OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET JUST SOLD FOR A LOT OF MONEY. FOR BASC OFFICE USE OF THE DEMAND POTENTIAL IS THERE.

I THINK WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE MORE SOPHISTCATED ABOUT THE MARKETING OF POTENTIAL ABUSE.

IN ADDITION TO THE COMMERCIAL RETAIL. I'LL BE HONEST I MAY BE VOTING AGAIN THAT I MAY BE THE ONLY ONE AND I DON'T REALLY THIS IS THE BEST AND HIGHEST USE OF

DEVELOPABLE LAND FOR THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL. >> ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY

COMMENTS? >> I FOUND THE ISSUE WITH THE IDEA OF MAKING THIS COMMERCIAL OFFICE SPACE WOULD BE PARKING. I KIND OF LIKE IT ANYWAY. I THINK IT'S GOOD.

BAYSIDE AND DOCTOR BAER THE HERE. IF THE APARTMENTS AND TOWNHOMES. IS OFTEN THE RESTORED OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE USES THE LONG-TERM STORAGE. I LIKE THE IDEA WHEN YOU TALL BUILDINGS WITH DARK CLASS THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS. I GET THE BOTTOM BEING OPEN FOR US I KIND OF UNDERSTAND THE PARKING FROM THE DEVELOPER AND THEIR CONCERNS WITH THE SIDEWALK PART.

I'M NOT REALLY CONCERNED AND I AGREE WITH THE DEVELOPER. NOT I DON'T THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA. IT'S REALLY NOT TAKING IT NOT THAT MUCH SPACE.

I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE. >> I THINK THAT THIS COULD BE A VERY UNIQUE DESIGN FOR THIS

LOCATION. >> WE HAVE PASSED SO MANY OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS AREA OF DIFFERENT SIZES AND TOWNHOMES. APARTMENTS AND SAPPHIRE BAY

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THERE'S GOING TO BE LIMITED SPACE FOR THESE PEOPLE TO HAVE PUT ANY EXTRA SUPPLIES WHERE FAMILIES WANT TO GET INTO BOATING AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. I JUST THINK THAT'S A STORAGE FACILITY IS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY FULL BECAUSE OF THE HIGH AMOUNT OF PEOPLE LIVING IN THIS AREA. THAT WAS MY THOUGHT RIGHT AWAY. I THOUGHT THE DEVELOPER HERE HAS COME UP WITH A UNIQUE IDEA THAT THEY HAVE OFFICE SPACE ON THE TOP FLOOR WHICH WOULD BE PROBABLY IN HIGH DEMAND BECAUSE YOU HAVE A GREAT VIEW LOOKING OVER COVERED AND THE CONCEPT OF

RETAIL AND RESTAURANT STORES AT THE LOWER LEVEL. >> AVERAGES MIRROR EVERYTHING THAT THE LAST TWO GENTLEMEN HAVE SAID SO FAR. I SEE A LOT OF POTENTIAL WITH APARTMENTS AND TELEPHONES IN THE RESIDENCE THAT WILL BE MOVING INTO THAT AREA TO

PROBABLY BE REALLY GOOD USE. I WOULD MIRROR WHAT WAS SAID. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY

SOMETHING? >> I AGREE WITH MISTER FRISBIE.

I THINK I DROVE BY THERE SEVERAL TIMES AND IT IS JUST SUCH A PRIME BEAUTIFUL LOCATION. I THINK IT LEANS MORE TOWARDS QUALITY OFFICE BECAUSE OF THE VIEW THAT THERE. I THINK PEOPLE WOULD JUMP AT THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEASE OFFICE SPACE. THAT'S A MILLION-DOLLAR VIEW FROM THERE.

I RENTED OFFICE SPACE FOR MANY YEARS AND VIEWS OF IS IMPORTANT.

AMERICAN STORAGE FACILITIES. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER FACILITIES AND ROWLETT SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF FACILITIES.

I WOULD RATHER SEE MORE RETAIL BECAUSE OF THE BEAUTIFUL LOCATION FOR RESTAURANTS TO 10 WITH BIG PATIOS IT JUST BECAUSE OF YOU SO GORGEOUS OVER THERE AND YOU CHOOSE TO STICK WITH THE FORM-BASED CODE. AND FOR THAT REASON I WON'T BE IN FAVOR OF IT.

>> WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT IT I WAS PRETTY MUCH AGAINST IT. YES I THINK THE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO BE A NEED A LOT AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ASK NICE. SOMETHING THEY'VE GONE TO GREAT LINKS TO MAKE IT LOOK GOD ON THE PERSONAL LAND. MY ONLY CONSIDERATION AS I REALLY THINK THEY NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE SIDEWALKS ON DULL ROCK NOW BECAUSE IF I'M NOT HERE ON THIS PATIO WE LIKE TO WALK AROUND IN A WALKOUT NEXT TO THAT STREET.

IT'S RIGHT ON THE STREET. I THINK THAT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED TO MAKE

THAT MOVE OTHER THAN THAT IT LOOKS GOOD. >> I LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF RETAIL OPPORTUNITIES ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

I WOULD PREFER TO NOT WALKING UP THE STEPS TO GET MY DINNER. IT'S NOT MY PLACE TO TELL DEVELOPERS THAT YOU SHOULDN'T PUT YOUR MONEY HERE BECAUSE YOU NOT TO MAKE ANY MONEY BECAUSE WE HAVE ENOUGH SELF STORAGE. OBVIOUSLY THEY'VE GONE OUT AND ON THEIR STUDIES AND THEY ARE

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THE PROBLEM BUT IT'S NOT IN THE FORM-BASED URBAN VILLAGE CONCEPT IS BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE ACTUALLY GROWING OUT OF THE FORM-BASED URBAN VILLAGE WITH THIS PROJECT.

IT'S A LARGE DEVELOPMENT AND SO TO ALLOW THAT SELF STORAGE COMPONENT THERE AS NICELY AS THEY DRESSED IT UP IS FINE WITH ME. I AGREE THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE SIDEWALK ALONG THE MAJOR ARROW FAIR. WHEN DETERMINING TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS OR NOT. AS FAR AS THE PARKING RATIO IS CONCERNED I KIND OF AGREE WITH THE DEVELOPER AND HIS NUMBERS BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THERE'S ONLY ONE FLOOR OF OFFICE SPACE AND ONE FOR RESTAURANT. A MEETING TO DEBATE THE DEVELOPER ON THAT REQUEST AS WELL. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SIDEWALKS ON DULL ROCK I'M GOING TO BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS.

I'M GONNA WANT THE SIDEWALK ON DULL ROCK. >> DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO

SPEAK ON THIS? >> OKAY WELL I GUESS WE ARE READY FOR A MOTION.

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE WARRANT NUMBER ONE, WARRANT NUMBER TWO AS STIPULATED DYESTUFFS RECOMMENDATION AND WARRANT NUMBER THREE.

I WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR NUMBER FOUR I RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND THAT'S CONTRARY TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. I WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE A WARRANT TO ESTABLISH A ONE IN 1000 FOR STORAGE USES PICK. BUT NUMBER TWO?

THAT'S THE ONLY ONE WITH STAFF. >> NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER FIVE. >> NUMBER FIVE I DISAGREE WITH

STAFF RECOMMENDATION I WANT TO PROVE IT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR WARRANT NUMBER ONE APPROVAL OF WARRANT NUMBER TWO WITH THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION

OF. >> INSTALLING THE REQUIRED SIDEWALKS ALONG DULL ROCK.

>> AS WELL AS LIGHTING ENTRIES. >> OKAY APPROVAL OF NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO WITH THE INSTALLATION OF THE SIDEWALK ON DULL ROCK AND THE REQUIRED

LANDSCAPING. >> RATE. >> THAT'S AS STAFF RECOMMENDS.

APPROVAL ITEM NUMBER THREE AND NUMBER FOUR. DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> WE HAVE A SECOND BY MISTER TUCKER. >> STAFF NEEDS CLARIFICATION.

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>> CLARIFICATION QUESTION. >> AS IT RELATES TO RECOMMENDATION FOR POINT NUMBER THREE APPROVAL OF THE MAJOR WARRANT TO WAIVE THE TRUE REQUIREMENT ALONG THE GROUND LEVEL. I JUST A CLARIFICATION ON THAT. ARE YOU SUPPORTING STEPH'S

RECOMMENDATION? >> YES. >> IN WHICH WHAT WAS THAT?

>> ITEM NUMBER THREE. >> ITEM NUMBER THREE IS AN APPROVAL WITH STAFF

RECOMMENDATIONS. >> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR WITH A CORRECTION WARRANT

NUMBER THREE PLUS STAFF RECOMMENDATION. >> BEFORE YOU VOTE I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE MOTION SO IT'S AS PROPOSED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF REPLACING THE 5 FOOT SIDEWALK WITH AN 8 FOOT SIDEWALK AND ADD TREES AND STREET LIGHTING IS THAT CORRECT? EVERYTHING ELSE IS AS IS BEEN REPRESENTED.

>> IS JUST ONE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE VOTE WAS ANYONE UNDERSTAND IT WAS AS PROPOSED.

>> WE'RE GOING TO START FROM THE BEGINNING AND HAVE JOHN CLARIFY EVERYTHING FOR US.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A MAJOR WARRANT UP TO APPENDIX 1.1 TO ALLOW THE USE OF SELF STORAGE. I'M RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE MAJOR WARRANT ARTICLES 2, FOUR AND SIX AND 286 TOLL TO THE STREETSCAPE ELEMENT ALONG SUNSET BOULEVARD AND AND APPROVE STAFF TO RECOMMENDATION THAT AN 8 FOOT SIDEWALK BE INSTALLED 6 FEET FROM THE BACK CURB ALLOWING FOR TREES AND LIGHTING TO BE INSTALLED WITHIN THAT PARKWAY.

I RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO ARTICLE 2868 TO WAIVE THE TRUE REQUIREMENT IN THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AT THE GROUND LEVEL OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE. WE AGREE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO PROVIDE ALTERNATE SHADING FOR THAT AREA.

WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE MAJOR WARRANT ARTICLES 3.1.3 TO ESTABLISH A ONE AND 8000 PARKING RATIO FOR THE SELF STORAGE USES. AND APPROVE THE MAJOR WARRANT ARTICLE TO 86 AND APPENDIX 3 AND TWO TO ALLOW GLASS ON FORCE 236 WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE WINDOWS BE RETROFITTED TO BE COMPLYING WITH THE STANDARD IN THE EVENT THAT THEY CHANGE WITHIN THOSE LEVELS. THOSE OPPOSED? THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> WE HAD VOTED

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