[3B. Provide an update and seek consensus from Council regarding the selection of the Solid Waste vendor/partner for the City to commence with the expiration of the current contract on October 1, 2024. (60 minutes)]

PROVIDE AN UPDATE AND SEEK CONSENSUS FROM COUNSEL REGARDING THE SELECTION OF THE SOLID WASTE VENDOR/PARTNER OF FOR THE CITY TO COMMERCE WITH THE EXPIRATION OF THE CURRENT CONTRACT ON OCTOBER 1ST, 2024. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I'M SEEING ON. HOW ARE YOU? OH, AND ANGIE NEEDS T

START OFF. >> WE HAVE ARE PRESENTED IT IS FROM TWO DIFFERENT ORGANIZATION FROM THE SOLID WASTE CONNECTIONS. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THIS IS BEEN A PROCESS. YOU SEE A TEAM IN FRONT OF YOU IN BROW SHIRTS THAT SAY "I LOVE TO TALK TRASH". WE INTENDED TO TURN THIS INTO AN EXPERIENCE. YOU SEE FOLKS, LAURA AND I DO NOT HAVE ON OUR SHIRTS , BUT LITERALLY, IN THIS ROOM, THERE ARE MEMBERS OF EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THIS CITY THAT TOUCHES SOLI WASTE. BILLING, UTILITY BILLING, CODE ENFORCEMENT, COMMUNICATIONS , OUR ACTIONS AS WELL . SO, THESE GUYS HAVE PUT LOT, A LOT OF WORK INTO THE PROCESS, IF I COULD GO THROUGH THAT, AND I DO ENCOURAE EVERYONE TO REMEMBER, TONIGHT, WE ARE NOT NECESSARILY TALKING ABOUT OUR RESIDENCE, BUT THE COST OF THE CITY OF ROWLETT. YO WILL HEAR ME SAY THAT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN TONIGHT, JUST AS A REMINDER, DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE SET THE RATE FOR OUR RESIDENTS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, IT WILL LITERALLY PROBABLY BE THE 2024 BUDGET PROCESS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT. AS YOU KNOW, OUR CONTRACT DOES NOT START UNTIL OCTOBER 1ST OF 2024. BUT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE COMPANIES HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO GET TRUCKS, AND CARTS, ALL O THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL ON DAY ONE. SO, OUR ASSET MANAGER, YOU ALL KNOW RONNIE O'BRIEN , I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THEM TO DO THE PRESENTATION.

>> TO SOME TRASH TALK. >> TRASH TALK, THE THREE.

>> IT EVENING, COUNSEL. WITH M IS RYAN O'BRIEN, THE DIRECTOR.

TONIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO PROVID AN UPDATE FOR EXPENSES ON THE SOLID WASTE CONTRACT. WE'LL BE COVERING QUITE A LOT OF MATERIA THIS EVENING WITH A CONTRACT VENDOR, AND WE OFF TIME FOR QUESTIONS AT THE END. I HAVE T REMEMBER HOW THIS WORKS. THE CURRENT CONTRACTORS ALWAYS CONNECTION WILL EXPIRE ON THE TIMBER 30TH, 2024. AS YOU KNOW POST-COVID, THINGS IN THE MARKE HAVE CHANGED. INFLATION IS ON THE UPTICK, LABOR IS DIFFICULT TO FIND, AND SUPPLY CHAINS GIVE A LONG WAY TIME FOR EVERYTHING. AS TOGETHER MARKET INTELLIGENCE, IT THAT WE HAD TO CONSIDER THESE I ORDER TO GIVE POTENTIAL VENDORS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ORDER TRASH CARDS IS PLENTY OF WAIT TIME.

THROUGH THESE FACTORS, STAFF THOUGHT IT BEST TO GO BACK OUT TO THE MARKET WITH REQUEST FOR APPROVAL , SO WE WILL END UP DOING THAT. THE SOLID WASTE FO THE UPCOMING CONTRACT, ALL QUALIFIED VENDORS ARE INVITED T SAMITI PROPOSAL, INCLUDING CURRENT VENDORS . IT'S A LITTL SMALL. HER CURRENT VENDOR WRITING WITH RFP FOR SOLID WASTE SERVICES FOR 2022 , THE DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE CITY ENACTED WITH SOLID WASTE PROVIDERS. EACH OF THE STAKEHOLDERS WERE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE . THE TEAM CONSISTE OF WHAT YOU SEE LISTED ON THE SCREEN. MANY ARE HERE WITH OUR TALK TRASH SHIRTS. SO, YOU CAN ASK THEM QUESTIONS AFTER THIS I OVER AS WELL. THIS IS THE TEAM RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ISSUES. TH PUBLIC ISSUE SESSIONS, AND FOR THE SURVEY DEVELOPED TO CAPTURE RESIDENT THOUGHTS AS WELL. SO WE HELD THREE PUBLIC INPUT SESSIONS, ONE OF WHICH WAS TAPE , AND I WAS PLACED ON OUR WEBSITE FOR THOSE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND. THE SURVEY ALSO DEVELOPED AN INPUT TAKE FOR FOUR WEEKS. THE MAJORITY OF TH RESPONDENTS VOTED FOR AUTOMATE CYBER SERVICES FOR A TRASH CYCLE, AND A ONCE A MONTH SERVICE FOR FOUR CUBIC YARDS MAXIMUM. FOR YOUR INFORMATION, FOUR CUBIC YARDS ARE FOUR WASHING MACHINES STANDING

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SIDE-BY-SIDE. SO, EACH WASHING MACHINE , THAT'S ONE CUBIC YARD. WE ALSO REQUIRED ASL SERVICE FOR RECYCLING, AND ONCE A MONTH , THE CUBIC MAXIMUM. VENDORS WERE ALSO ASKED TO PROVIDE A PRICE FOR EXCESS OVE THE MAXIMUM . THIS WILL PROVIDE A MECHANISM FOR RESIDENCE TO HAVE OVER THE LIMIT TO BE SERVICED AT THE CURB. SO, FOR REFERENCE, -- I DON'T KNOW HOW

TO ADVANCE ASIDE. >> I CAN DO.

>> THANK YOU. THE CITIES TRASH AND RECYCLE SERVICE IS USING 30 CUBIC YARDS WITH ONE DRIVER AN ONE HELPER ON THE BACK. AN ADDITIONAL SET UP WITH BAGS AND SUCH ARE PERMITTED, AND ACCEPTABLE NEXT TO THE CARTS. BOTH SERVICES ARE PROVIDED BY 40 CUBIC YARD TRUCK ON A WEEKL BASIS. THERE IS NOT CURRENTLY A LIMIT ON THE AMOUNT OF BULK OR BRUSH . COMMERCIAL SERVICES AR AVAILABLE FOR WIDELY CUSTOMIZABLE TO HAVE SERVICE OPTIONS. SO, ALSO FOR REFERENCE, WE COLLECTED TEAM SURVEYS AROUND THE CITY TO COMPARE SERVICES THROUGH BOTH OUR CURRENT SERVICE IN THE PROPOSED SERVICE. TRASH AND RECYCLING ARE PRETTY CONSISTEN ON A WEEKLY BASIS. THE MAJORIT OF SURROUNDING CITIES PROVIDE BULK AND BRUSH SERVICE ON A MONTHLY BASIS WITH CONSIDERABLE DIFFERENCES IN WATER QUALITY , RANGING ANYWHERE FROM UNLIMITED TO ONE SINGLE ITEM WEIGHING N MORE THAN 40. THAT IS HARD TO BELIEVE.

>> YOU HAVE A SKILL ON THE TRUCK?

>> SOME OF THE DRIVERS ARE REALLY GOOD AT VISUALIZING IT.

USING INFORMATION GATHERED DURING THE SURVEYS AND PUBLIC INPUT SURVEYS, AS WELL AS MARKE INTELLIGENCE FOR THIS PROCESS, A TEAM DEVELOPED AN RFP IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER OF 2022.

THERE IS INCLUDED INFORMATION ABOUT SOLID WASTE COLLECTION FO DISPOSAL SERVICES. THE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL PRICING WAS REQUESTED FOR A SEVEN YEAR TERM WITH THREE ADDITIONAL ONE-YEAR TERMS . TH RFP SPECIFIES A MYRIAD OF SERVICES FOR SOLID WASTE SERVICES WITHIN THE CITY.

ALTERNATE OPTIONS MAY OR MAY NOT BE PROVIDED, INCLUDED IN TH RFP , OUR EXCLUSIVE FRANCHISE RIGHTS FOR THE SUCCESSFUL VENDOR FOR SERVICES AND COMPAC SERVICES, WHICH ARE TYPICALLY USED FOR CONSTRUCTION ON PROJECTS. NEXT? SEVEN VENDORS SAMITI PROPOSALS IN RESPONSE TO THE RFP. THE TEAM REVIEWED ALL PROPOSALS PROVIDED BY OUR PURCHASING FOR IT. ALL INDIVIDUAL FORMS ARE RETURNED T THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT SURRENDERING THE RANKING THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN HERE. THE TOP THREE VENDORS WERE REPUBLIC SERVICES , VOICE CONNECTIONS, AND CWD. THESE VENDORS WERE THEN ASKED TO PRESENT TO THE TABLE TO REVIEW THEIR PROPOSALS , AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE TEAM MAY HAVE HAD. ONCE THIS PROCESS WAS COMPLETE, THE TEAM VOTED ON THE TOP TWO VENDORS THAT WE WILL PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT AND THEIR ADDENDUM THE TOP TWO VENDORS ARE PUBLIC SERVICES AND WASTE CONNECTION. BOTH VENDORS ARE NATIONAL COMPANIES WITH SIGNIFICANT PRESENCE IN NORTH TEXAS. IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THIS SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPARISON , A VER SPECIFIC SET OF QUESTIONS COVERING KEY AREAS OF THE PROPOSAL WAS SENT TO EACH OF THE POTENTIAL VENDORS. WE ARE GOING TO GO TO THE HIGHLIGHTS O THOSE RESPONSES TO THOSE QUESTIONS HERE. ALL OF THE QUESTIONS WERE INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSAL AND SUBMISSIONS. I WILL START BY LOOKING AT EQUIPMENT . AS YOU CAN SEE, WASTE CONNECTIONS UTILIZED SEMI TRUCKS FOR RESIDENTIAL TRASH AND RECYCLING TO RESERVE A RATIO OF SEVEN TO ONE. THIS WILL UTILIZE 10 TRUCKS FOR RESIDENTIAL TRASH AND RECYCLING, THE RESERVIST TANDEM. BOTH VENDORS WILL UTILIZE TWO STANDARD MOVEMENT TRUCKS FOR BULK AND BRUSH. THAT IS WITH WASTE CONNECTION UTILIZING AN ADDITIONAL RELOAD FOR THAT PURPOSE FOR OUR PUBLIC TO USE TWO RELOADS. THERE ARE SPECIAL AREAS TO USE TWO REAR

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LOAD RETRIEVER TYPE TRUCKS WIT 13 YARD BODIES ON THEM , ALLOWING NAVIGATION IN SMALL ALLEYS AND STREETS, AS WELL AS WEIGHT LIMITS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF THOSE SET. PUBLIC SERVICES WILL USE 28 YARD RETRIEVER STYLES VERSUS SIDELOADING TRUCKS TO NAVIGATE . THE NEXT KEY AREA I STAFF. BOTH VENDORS HAVE SEVERA KEY STAFF ASSIGNED TO THE CITY.

OUR STAFF ARE COMPARABLE, WHER THEY BOTH HAD A DEDICATED SUPERVISOR ONLY ASSIGNED FOR ROWLETT. WASTE CONNECTIONS WOUL UTILIZE 13 TO 15 UNWRAPS STAFF WITH A SUPERVISOR , CRATING A SUPERVISOR AND STAFF RATIO . PUBLIC SERVICES WOULD ALSO UTILIZE 16 DRIVERS FOR THE STAFF RATIO OF ONE TO 15 AS WELL. WITH REGARDS TO TRAINING BOTH HAD CLASSROOM TRAINING FO SAFETY , AND ON-THE-JOB TRAININ FOR DRIVERS. WASTE CONNECTIONS HAVE A MINIMUM OF 10 DAYS FOR DRIVER TRAINING , AND SUPERVISO TRAINING IS A MONTH. ONE MONTH. PUBLIC SERVICES DRIVER TRAININ IS 15 DAYS, WITH BEHIND THE WHEEL TRAINING. SUPERVISORS ALSO WARM-UP TO TRAINING PERIOD. THERE IS ALSO TECH FO SOLID WASTE FOR PROGRAMS. CUSTOMER SERVICE IS THE NEXT KE AREA WE ARE LOOKING AT. OUR HOURS OF OPERATION FOR CALL CENTERS ARE VERY SIMILAR MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY , WITH FRIDAY HAVING PUBLIC SERVICES ON CERTAIN HOURS. BOTH VENDORS HAV LOCAL CALL CENTERS, WITH CONNECTIONS TO 10 CUSTOMER SERVICE ARE PRESENTED AS SET, AND --. WASTE CONNECTIONS HAVE ONE CUSTOMER SERVICE SUPERVISOR OVERSEEING THOSE 10 CUSTOMERS.

PUBLIC SERVICES HAVE A LOCAL RESOURCE CENTER WITH 99 AGENTS HANDLING 155 CITIES . THERE ARE THREE SERVICE SUPERVISORS, AND TWO SALES SUPERVISORS. THREE SUPERVISOR STAFF RATIO , IT'S ONE-TO-ONE. ANOTHER KEY AREA O CUSTOMER SERVICE IS HOW THIS IS HANDLED. THESE WASTE CONNECTIO PICKUPS ARE HANDLED THROUGH THE CALL CENTER, AND IF RECEIVED PRIOR TO 2 P.M., THEY WILL BE ON THE SAME DAY. THEY MUST PICK UP CALLS AFTER 2:00 P.M., OR FIRST THING THE FOLLOWING MORNING. PUBLIC SERVICES ALSO HANDLE PICKUPS FOR THE CALL CENTER , AND THE STICKERS WILL BE RECOVERED WITHIN 24 HOURS. BOTH COMPANIES HAVE A 99.9% TAKE-UP RATE. SO, THE DON'T MISS MUCH. OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT EXAMINED THE FINANCIALS OF BOTH POTENTIAL MEMBERS, AND FOUND THEY HAVE VERY SIMILAR FINANCIAL FOOTING.

BOTH THE PUBLICLY HELD COMPANIES AND NATIONAL COMPANIES THAT MEET CONTRACT OBLIGATIONS TO DETERMINE THE CONTRACT. ANOTHER KEY AREA OF IMPORTANCE DURING THE TRANSITION BOTH WITH NEW VENDORS AND A NEW LEVEL OF SERVICE WILL BE EDUCATING RESIDENTS. BOTH VENDORS WILL VISIT WITH EACH COMMERCIAL CUSTOMER TO DETAIL SERVICE EXPECTATIONS , AND ENSURE APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF SERVICES FOR EACH CUSTOMER. BOTH VENDORS ANTICIPATE USING SOCIAL MEDIA PRINT COMMUNICATIONS TO MEDICAID TO BOTH RESIDENTS AND COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS PRIOR TO INITIATION OF THE NEW CONTRACT.

WASTE CONNECTIONS ANTICIPATE SENDING FLYERS TO EACH RESIDENT , AS WELL AS PLACING KEY MEDICATION ON EACH OF THE CART AS THEY ARE CHANGED OUT PRIOR T CONTRACT USE. PUBLIC SERVICES HAVE AN IN-HOUSE GRAPHIC DESIGN TEAM THAT WILL ASSIST IN DEVELOPING EDUCATION MATERIALS. THEY ALSO ANTICIPATE MEETING WITH THE HOAS WHO ARE ENSURING ADEQUATE THINGS OF THE RESIDENCE. PUBLIC SERVICES ALSO PLAN TO PROVIDE US A VISUAL EXAMPLE OF WHAT FOUR YEARS INVOLVED WILL LOOK LIKE SO RESIDENTS CAN ENGAGE ON A NEW LIMIT OF PICKUP. BOTH VENDORS WILL WORK CLOSELY WITH THE CITY STAFF TO BOTH DEVELOP AND DELIVER COMMUNICATION TO RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES WITHIN THE CITY. AS WE LOOK AT TECHNOLOGY , BOTH VENDORS USE EXTENSIVE IN TRUCK TECHNOLOGY, ALLOWING GPS TRACKING , REPORTING SERVICE RELATED ISSUE , ALONG WITH REAL-TIME TO MEDICATION WITH DRIVERS. BOTH VENDORS UTILIZE VIDEO FOR SAFET

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SERVICE VERIFICATION , AS WELL AS ISSUE TRACKING AND RESOLUTION. FOR BOTH VENDORS, THE CITY WOULD BE ABLE TO TRAC TRUCKS ON ROUTE TO VERIFY SERVICES. BOTH VENDORS ALSO UTILIZE RESIDENT TECHNOLOGY I THE FORM OF ABSENT WEBPAGES.

BOTH SERVICE REQUESTS CAN BE MADE THROUGH WEB SERVICES FOR BOTH VENDORS AND STAFF TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF CALLS THAT WE SEE. BOTH WASTE CONNECTIONS AND PUBLIC SERVICES CAN ALSO INFORM RESIDENTS LIKE BUSINESS SERVICE DELAYS THERE WHETHER O OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THEY CAN INTERACT. PUBLIC SERVICES WILL ALSO UTILIZE A TRACK BY TRUCK SERVICE, ALLOWING PEOPLE TO SEE WHERE THEIR TRUCK IS ON ROUTE. THE PUBLIC WILL ALSO CREATE A DEDICATED SAFE ROUTE WEBPAGE AND EMAIL ADDRESS FOR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES TO COMEDIC IT WITH THEM. SO, NOW THAT WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED THE POTENTIAL VENDORS AND KEY POINTS, WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT COST. WILL BE LOOKING AT THE COST TO THE CITY , NOT THE COST TO THE RESIDENCE OR COMMERCIAL USERS OF THE SERVICE SO, IT'S A GREAT SETTING THAT THE COUNCIL DOES A PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR SETTING UP RATES. THIS IS WHAT THE CITY WILL PAY VENDORS, AND WHAT THE CITY WILL GET BILLED BY VENDORS THE COST OF CITY TOTALS ARE ESTIMATED USING FEHERVARY 2023 ACTUAL BILLING FOR HOUSEHOLD AND COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS. LOOKING AT THE COST FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL HOUSEHOLD ON A MONTHLY BASIS FOR WEEKLY TRASH AND RECYCLING, THE MONTHLY BULK SERVICE WILL BE FOUR CUBIC YARDS. OUR CURRENT COST IS TW -- ON AVERAGE. THE PUBLIC COS FOR THE CITY WILL BE $18.72 . WASTE CONNECTIONS WILL COST SAME SERVICES WILL COST $19.44. LOOKING FOR RESIDENTIA TRASH RECYCLING AND MONTHLY BULK AT THE END OF THE CURRENT COST IS $14 06. THE PUBLIC COST OF THE CITY WILL BE $19.25 WITH CONNECTION COST FOR THE CITY WOULD BE $22.00. BASED ON THE FEHERVARY, 2023 BILLING , CURRENT TOTAL RESIDENCE PROCESSES THAT YOU SEE ANNUALLY IS ABOUT 3.6 OR $3,700,000,000.00. RESIDENTIAL TRASH RECYCLING WOULD CALL AN ANNUAL COST FOR PUBLIC AT $4,700,000,000.00 , AND FOR THE CONNECTIONS, 4.8 OR $4,900,000.00. FOR RESIDENTIAL TRASH RECYCLING , THERE'S AN EIGHT CUBIC YARD MONTHLY OPTION THEY EXPECT ANNUAL COSTS OF TH CITY FOR BOTH SERVICES IS $4,950,000.00. THAT WILL ALSO BE 5.5 FOR WASTE CONNECTIONS.

THE COST OF THE CITY IS CURRENTLY UNCHANGED. RESIDENTS WILL BE CHANGING FROM THE CURRENT UNLIMITED TO EITHER FOUR CUBIC YARD OR EIGHT CUBIC YARD OPTION , THE PRICE WAS REQUESTED IN THE RFP FOR EACH ADDITIONAL CUBIC YARD OVER THE LIMIT. THIS WILL BE BILLED DIRECTLY TO THE RESIDENT FROM THE VENDOR. THE PUBLIC SERVICE COST IS $10.00 BREACH ESTABLISHMENT, AND WITH CONNECTION IS $17.50 PER CUBIC YARD. THIS GIVES RESIDENTS THE OPTIONS TO STILL HAVE LARGER AMOUNTS OF BULK TRASH AT THE CURB. LOOKING AT THE COMMERCIA COST TO THE CITY, WE HAVE THE COST OF THE CITY THAT WOULD BE BILLED FOR THE SERVICES , NOT WHAT OUR COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS WILL TAKE. THE RATES WILL BE SET AS PART OF THE BUDGETING PROCESS NEXT SUMMER. AGAIN, USING FEBRUARY, 2023 ANNUAL BILLING , THE CURRENT COST OF THE CITY IS 24 MILLION , AN ESTIMATED ANNUAL COST IS ASSUMED THE SAME. A MIX OF CONTAINER AND SERVICE LEVELS FO PUBLIC SERVICES IS 1.5 MILLION , AND 1.3 MILLION FOR WASTE CONNECTIONS. COMMERCIAL SURGE IS GREATLY DO FOR COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS WITH DIFFERENT PICKU SCHEDULES AVAILABLE TO THEM. MONTHLY COSTS RANGE FROM $22.00 TO 1500 FOR THE LARGEST CONTAINER WITH MULTIPLE TIMES PER WEEK. THE REALITY IS, BOT COMPANIES ARE DOING A GREAT JOB

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FOR THE CITY OF ROWLETT. SO, BASED ON ALL THE INFORMATION REVIEWED, THIS PROPOSAL DURING THE PRESENTATION IS ASKING QUESTIONS FOR POTENTIAL VENDORS STAFF RECOMMENDS MOVING FORWARD WITH PUBLIC SERVICING. HIGHLIGHTS OF THE SERVICE CF1 O INCLUDE THE LOWEST RESIDUAL COST INCREASE FOR BOTH FOUR CUBIC YARDS , AND EIGHT CUBIC YARD OPTIONS. AS WELL AS THE LOWEST EXCESS BULK FOR 15 YARDS ALSO, REPUBLIC WILL BE UTILIZING RIGHT SIDE VEHICLES T ANALYZE FENCE DAMAGE IN OUR ALLEYS. CITY STAFF, AS WELL AS RESIDENTS AND COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS WILL BE ABLE TO TRACK TRUCKS NON-ROUTE IN REAL TIME, AS WELL AS SEEING SERVICE FOR VERIFICATION. IN ADDITION, REPUBLIC IS BEST PARTNER FOR THIS EVENT, WITH DISASTER TEAM READY TO STEP IN SHOULD DISASTERS OCCUR. THIS TEAM PULLS STAFF AND EQUIPMENT FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY TO BE READY IF DISASTER OCCURS . THE PUBLI ALSO OFFERS THE "PINK TAG PROGRAM", WHICH ALLOWS THE CIT TO SET UP TABS TO RESIDENT, HAVING THEM SET UP ADDITIONAL SERVICES OUTSIDE THEIR ORIGINA SERVICE. SO, IN SUMMARY , STAF RECOMMENDS MOVING FORWARD WITH PUBLIC SERVICES FOR THE NEXT SOLID WASTE CONTRACTOR AT THE CITY, AND THE CITY ADVISES THE COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD. SO, NEXT STEPS , ONCE THE COUNCIL HAS REACHED CONSENSUS ON THE VENDOR , CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS FOLLOWED BY COUNCIL APPROVAL, THE COUNSELOR WILL BE BROUGHT BACK FOR APPROVAL . PLANNING WILL BEGIN TO INFORM THE RESIDENTS AND COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS OF THE CHANGE IN VENDOR AND SERVICE . THE CONTRACT BEGINS OCTOBER 1ST, 2024 , SO WE DO HAVE QUITE A BI OF TIME TO GET THAT HANDLED. SO, WE REVISITED IS FROM BOTH COMPANIES HERE TONIGHT TO ASSIST WITH QUESTIONS IF NEEDED RONNIE, I, AND THE TEAM ARE AL AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS

YOU MAY HAVE. >> THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS HERE THAT I NEED TO UNDERSTAND BEFORE I AM COUNTABL ENOUGH TO MAKE A DECISION ON A CONSENSUS. SO, ONE OF THE COMPONENTS, CRITICAL COMPONENTS THAT WERE MISSING FROM YOUR PRESENTATION WAS WHAT KIND OF SERVICE IS OFFERED HERE? IS I A AUTOLOADER TRUCK ? WAS THERE THOUGHT TO DO A HYBRID APPROAC OF THAT? I KNOW THERE ARE SERVICES THAT MAY HAVE ONE THING ON THE BACK MONITORING THE ZIPPER ON THE TRUCK, AND CLEANING UP DEBRIS THAT MAY BE LEFT BEHIND? WAS THERE THOUGHT FOR THAT KIND OF SERVICE?

>> THE RFP WAS ISSUED WITH AN AUTOMATED SIDE LOADER , AS I WA BOTH THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE , TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE COST INCREASE . PART OF THE ISSUE THESE DAYS FOR MOST FOLKS WERE THESE RELOAD VEHICLES WAS FINDING STAFF TO RUN THE TRUCK MOST OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE USIN RELOAD VEHICLES USED TEMP SERVICES TO STAFF THOSE. THE COST IS GOING UP, AND LABOR IS HARDER TO FIND. SO, WHAT IS HAPPENING IS SOMETIMES, THINGS HAVE NOT BEEN COMPLETED. THOSE FOLKS MIGHT WALK OFF ROUTE WHEN IT IS COLD OUT, OR WHEN IT IS TOO HOT. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO STAFF THAT. SO, FOR BOTH RELIABILITY AND COST , WE ARE BEING ISSUED WITH AUTOMATED SID LOADERS. THE RESPONSE ABILITIES TO ENSURE THAT THE ROUTES ARE DONE. WE WILL WORK WITH VENDOR TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS DONE IF IT IS NOT.

>> SO, I'M TRYING TO THINK HERE . THE SERVICES OFFERED BY 18 COMPARISON CITIES, I KNOW THAT THERE WERE SOME LISTS THERE FOR SOME OTHER CITIES, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE KIND OF SERVICE ? WITH THE CITIES THAT HAVE THE ROBOT ARMS, OR THE ZIP ARMS , O

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RIDERS ON THE BACK ARE HYBRID , DO WE KNOW WHAT IS THE SERVICE

TYPE PROVIDED BY COMMUNITIES? >> MOST OF THE RECENT CONTRACTS ARE GOING TO BE AUTOMATED SIDE LOADERS FOR THE REASONS I HAVE STATED. BOTH COST AND AVAILABILITY . THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE STILL USING REALTORS, AS I STATED , WHO HAVE DIFFICULTY STAFFING THAT. AND THE ONES WHO HAVE THE SERVICES HAVE INTENTION TO DO SO. FOR TH MOST PART, NOT ALL. THE OLDER CONTRACTS THAT STILL HAVE THEI TRUCKS, THEY ARE SO USING THAT.

AS THOSE CONTRACTS COME UP, I THINK THE AUTOMATED SIDE LOADER WILL SHOW HER THE INDUSTRY IS GOING . ANYTHING TO INCLUDE TH RELOAD VEHICLES , TWO THINGS. ONE, MOST OF THOSE, NOT ALL, BUT RELOAD VEHICLES DAMAGE THE ELEMENT. WE ARE GETTING COMPLAINTS , AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO USE A REALTOR, YOU ALSO HAVE TO USE VEHICLES TO MAKE IT COST-EFFECTIVE. THE NUMBER OF TRIPS THAT ARE BEING DONE AND SUCH, IT JUST DOES NOT MAKE IT COST-EFFECTIVE TO USE A SMALLER LOAD. I HOPE I ANSWERE

YOUR QUESTION. >> AND THEN, GIVEN THE NUMBERS WE WERE GIVEN ON THE AVERAGE COST PER HOUSE, DID WE USE THA DATA TO COMPARE WITH OTHER CITIES TO MAKE SURE WE ARE

GETTING A FAIR PRICE? >> IS DIFFICULT TO GET THAT PAID. WE CAN SURVEY RATES, WHICH IS CONSIDERABLY DIFFERENT DIFFERENT CONVERSATION FOR BUDGETS.

>> WE WERE ABLE TO SURVEY SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES . THERE WER SOME DEDICATED NETWORKS THAT W WERE A PART OF . THAT INFORMATION IS COMPARABLE TO WHAT WE ARE PAYING NOW. THIS HAS A LOT TO DO WITH HOW WILL THOSE CONTRACTS ARE. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, OUR CURRENT CONTRACT IS SEVEN YEARS OLD . IT'S DIFFERENT NOW THAN IT WAS SEVE YEARS AGO FOR A VARIETY OF

REASONS. >> IF WE CAN EXTRACT SOME DATA FROM OTHER CITIES , WE JUST RECENTLY SIGNED A CONTRACT FOR DIFFERENT KIND OF SERVICE TO LOOK AT WHAT THEY ARE BEING CHARGED , TO SEE IF WE ARE IN LINE HERE. YOU KNOW, WE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE AN INCREASE IN COST GIVING THE MARKET CHANGE FROM FIVE YEARS AGO. BUT THAT NUMBER IS STILL A TOUGH PILL TO SWALLOW. ULTIMATELY, W ARE LOOKING AT THE COST OF THE CITY, BUT THE DATA THAT COSTS FOR THE CITY COSTS US. SO, WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ARE WE ACCEPTING A RATE THAT IS IN LINE WITH THE CURRENT MARKET? I JUST WANT TO

MAKE SURE -- >> THE SEVEN VENDORS WHO SOME OF THE PROPOSALS OF THE WANT T DO BUSINESS ACROSS TEXAS. SO, THAT IS THE BEST PRICING THAT THEY PROVIDED, AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT PROVIDER COS THAT WE GOT AS PART OF THE

PROPOSAL PROCESS. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CA GO BACK OUT THERE, WITH A CONTRACT NEGOTIATION, WE ABSENTLY CAN GO OUT AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION FO ANYBODY'S CONTRACT TO MAKE SUR THAT THOSE PRICES ARE ALIGNED. THEY WILL BE ON TRACK FOR THE

SERVICE TODAY. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> READY FOR THE QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS.

PUBLIC HAS AN AUTOMATED SIDE LOADER FOR SOME THINGS IN THE CITY , WHERE IS WASTE CONNECTIO IS USED ON A RETRIEVER TYPE TRUCK. IS THAT A GUY ON THE BACK?

>> YES. >> OKAY. DO WE HAVE A PREFERENC OF WHICH WE WOULD PREFER? BECAUSE ESPECIALLY RATES FOR TH CITIES ARE THE ONES WE'LL TAKE MOST LIKELY, RIGHT?

>> FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, KEEPIN EVERYTHING AUTOMATED SIDE LOADERS IS PREFERABLE. BECAUSE THAT WAY, IT IS THE SAME FOR EVERYBODY. SO, IT IS AN AUTOMATED SIDE LOADER SERVICE FOR TIGHT ALLEYS. THERE ARE SOME EXTREME TIGHT ALLEYS AND SUBDIVISIONS BEING BUILT . YOU MAKE A COMPLAINTS THAT THEY AR RUNNING ALL THE TIME , BECAUSE OF THE SERVICES FOR THE VALLEYS I THINK THE SMALLER VEHICLES ARE USING AUTOMATED SIDE LOADER

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CONSISTENTLY ACROSS THE CITY. THINK THAT IS AN ADVANTAGE FOR US , ESPECIALLY FROM A CUSTOMER SERVICE STANDPOINT.

>> DID WE ASK WASTE TO SUBMIT TO HAVE THAT DIVERSE OFFERING? CHALLENGES. THEY HAVE A BUNCH OF THAT INFORMATION.

>> OKAY, SO, THEY ARE WILLING T OFFER A HYBRID SERVICE ?

>> NO, ONLY THOSE SPECIALIZED SMALL VEHICLES IN CERTAIN AREA WITHIN THE CITY . YOU CANNOT GE A TRUCK -- WE HAVE SOME BRIDGES THAT TRUCKS NOT GO OVER. AS WELL AS SOME ALLEYS THAT ARE NOT POSSIBLE TO GO TO SAFELY WITH REGISTERING PRIVATE PROPERTY. THE TWO VENDORS TO WAS TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE.

WITH COLLECTION WAS DOING A RELOADER , BUT THE PRIMARY TRAS AND RECYCLING , WITH JUST THAT ONE SPECIALIZED VEHICLE , WE'LL PROVIDE TWO ON THE 13 YEAR RELOAD TRUCKS. FOR PUBLIC, ON THE OTHER HAND, WE EXPECT THE AUTOMATED SIDE LOADER ON THE SMALL BODY OF A TRUCK TO PROVID THOSE SERVICES. SO, IT IS THE SAME -- WERE DELIVERING THE SAME, I GUESS, SERVICE, BUT WE ARE DELIVERING IT IN A DIFFEREN WAY. BUT, THE RFP SPECIALIZED THAT THIS WAS FOR WEIGHT LIMITS

>> ANY GO BACK TO SLIDE NUMBER FIVE, I THINK IT WAS?

>> THIS ONE? >> IT'S GOT THE EQUIPMENT ON IT THAT ONE. SO, A.B. THIS IS JUST A NOMENCLATURE DIFFERENCE THE BOOK CATEGORY, YOU HAVE TW STANDARD TELL TRUCKS VERSUS TWO LONG TRUCKS. OF THOSE DIFFERENT --

>> YES. >> SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, THE SET A VERY SPECIFIC LIST OF QUESTIONS . WHEN YOU GET THOSE CONTRACTS, WHEN WE DID THE INTERVIEWS, WE DID ALL KINDS OF STUFF. BRIAN AND I PUT TOGETHER A QUESTIONNAIRE THAT WE SENT THE . IT WAS THEIR EXACT WORDS WIT THOSE RESPONSES.

>> THANK YOU. WE SIGN WITH FCS, I RECALL CHIPS BEING IN ALL TH TRASH CANS WAS A BIG THING. THA WAS ONE OF THE SELLING POINTS.

I ASSUME THAT IS ALL BEEN REPLACED BY GPS AND ALL THAT

SORT OF STUFF? >> I DON'T THINK THEY EVER DID.

>> NO. >> OLD TECHNOLOGY. WE LEARNED THAT DURING THIS PROCESS. WE DI NOT KNOW, WE WERE NOT AWARE OF IT. SO, THE SERVICE VERIFICATION IS ACCOMPLISHED .

>> OKAY. >> YOU MENTIONED ONE THING THAT I FOUND REALLY INTERESTING, WHICH WAS THE EXTRA BULK BUILDING. SO, HOW IS THAT ACCOMPLISHED WHEN A RESIDENT

PUTS OUT 10 YARDS OF STUFF FOR >> RIGHT NOW, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, IF YOU PICK UP ANYTHING, YOU PUT 50 YARDS OUT THERE . YO MIGHT TAKE SIX TRIPS TO THE DUMP. THAT IS NOT COST-EFFECTIVE , AND OUR MARKET INTELLIGENCE WANTED TO GET AHEA WERE SOME VENDORS WOULD BID THAT.

>> I WONDER WHY. >> IT ALSO MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TO STAY ON GRAVEL, BECAUSE THER IS JUST TOO MUCH , ESPECIALLY A VARIOUS TIMES OF THE YEAR . SO, WE WENT TO THE PUBLIC , THE PUBLIC SAID FOUR YARDS ARE FOR YOUR AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD . TRIM TREES, TRIM BUSHES, FOUR YARDS IS ENOUGH. BUT WE'VE BEEN TOLD THE WAY THIS WOULD WORK IS, IF IT IS A LITTLE OVER FOUR YARDS, WE WILL JUST PICK IT UP. IF IT IS CLEARLY OVER FOUR YEARS, THE WILL PICK UP OF FOUR YARDS, AND THEN TAG THE REMAINDER WITH A PHONE NUMBER , SO THE RESIDENT HAS THE OPTION OF HAULING IT OFF THEMSELVES, OR CALLING THE VENDOR AND NEGOTIATING OR FINDING OUT HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST , WHICH IS WHERE THE $10.0 COMES IN FOR QB CARDS. YOU CAN STILL GET SERVICE IF YOU WANT TO PUT 50 YARDS OUT THERE. YOU CAN STILL GET IT PICKED UP OFF YOUR CURB, THIS IS GOING TO COS YOU A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY.

>> IS THERE A WAY THAT CAN BE ARRANGED IN ADVANCED?

>> THROUGH THE APP. >> PHONE CALL.

>> OUR EDUCATION PROCESS WILL G INTO THIS FOR THE WHOLE YEAR.

WE WILL EXPLAIN THAT TO ALL RESIDENTS. BY THE TIME WE GET THERE, WE WILL HAVE ENOUGH EDUCATION WITH THE VENDOR AND OUR OWN GROUP TO GET THAT OUT THERE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 15 YARD PICKUP, WE WILL PICK UP FOUR. SO, ARRANGE FOR THE REST.

YOU KNOW? >> WE WILL JUST TAG ONTO THAT PARTICULAR POINT . LOOK AT THIS BID BETWEEN THE DIFFERENCE OF

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FOUR UB GUARDS AND EIGHT CUBIC YARDS. THAT'S ONLY $.53 , WHICH ROUGHLY COMES OUT TO A DOLLAR 36. TO ME, YOU CAN GO THE EIGH CUBIC YARDS , OTHERWISE YOU'RE REALLY STICKING IT TO THE RESIDENT. SO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A POINT ON THE TRAIN OF

THOUGHT. >> I WILL TACK ON THAT TOO, IF ANYONE HAS EVER TAKEN IT SERIOUS, FOUR YARDS IS NOT A LOT. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS THOSE RESIDENTS WILL NOT CALL AND JUST LET IT SIT THERE FOR A MONTH UNTIL THE NEXT VEHICLE

GETS THERE. >> YEAH, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE

ALREADY THERE. >> SO, THE OTHER THING, THE REASON WE HAVE BOTH FOUR AND EIGHT, WHEN YOU DO A SPECIFIC AMOUNT , THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME HEARTBURN ON THAT. SO, WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS THAT OPTION. THIS COULD BE FOR THE CONTRACT, IS GOING BE FOUR, OR EIGHT?

>> AND ONCE A YEAR, IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A WINTER STORM, AND YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT, EVERYBODY IS OUT THERE CLEANING UP THE DEBRIS , AND YO CAN PUT IT ON THE CURB , SO THERE IS THE DISASTER THAT ENSUED AFTER 2021, WHERE, DENIS KNOWS VERY WELL, WE HAD MONTH AND MONTH OF DEBRIS SITTING OUT AS WE JUST COULD NOT GET IT ALL.

>> OH, YEAH, IT'S PRETTY CRAZY.

>> A SECONDARY MARKET INVOLVES TRASH.

>> THIS IS ANOTHER OPTION THAT PAYS , AND SO THAT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY INCLUDE THAT IN THE CONTRACT.

>> I WAS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED , DISSING SOME INFORMATION OF THE RESIN COMMERCIAL TOLLS, IT SURPRISES ME OF THAT SMALL INCREASE IN TOTAL COMPARED TO WHAT I WAS EXPECTING . EVEN THE WORST CASE, I THINK, FALLS JUST MARGINALLY ABOVE THE COMPLETIO RATE OF ONE YEAR . I THINK I CALCULATED 3.8, 6.7, 2.6 .

THAT'S THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE IN TOTAL . SO, CONGRATULATIONS TO COMPANIES THAT HAD THAT EFFICIENCY .

>> I HAD A CONCERN . THAT WILL TELL US YOUR COMMENTS. I GET WHY YOU GO THERE, BECAUSE OF THE DIFFICULTY IN ADDING LABOR AND STAFF. BUT, THE TRUCKS AR DESIGNED IN SUCH A WAY TO DETERMINE SHROUD. SO, THEY ARE PREVENTING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE

TO BLOW OFF. >> TO TAG ONTO THAT, IT IS WORT NOTING THAT, THE REASON WE WENT TO THESE PROFESSIONAL TRUCKS WAS, BACK WHEN WE HAD OUR WAST MANAGEMENT -- NO, NO, NO , IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE, WE ARE GETTING POINTS ABOUT DEBRIS, FEST FENCE POSTS BEING DESTROYED, IT WAS JUST CONSTANT COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT.

>> SO, TO TAG ONTO THAT, THOSE WITH THE ARMED TRUCKS? WE ARE

NOT USING THOSE? >> RIGHT.

>> THEY PICK IT UP WITH SERVIC ORDERS?

>> SO, YOU HAVE TO PUT YOUR TRASH BIN OUT THIS FAR ENOUGH.

THAT IS GOING TO BE AN EDUCATIONAL THING.

>> THAT IS WHY WE ARE SO RELIEVED .

>> THE REQUIREMENT WILL BE -- >> MY NAME IS RICK , THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE. IT IS A RAPID RAIL THAT WE ARE OFFERING HE COMES OUT, HE HAS A CONTAINER, IT DROPS BACK INTO THE VEHICLE, GO STRAIGHT BACK UP AND DOWN, AND IT GOES STRAIGHT BACK UP. THERE IS NO SWAY. BACK 15 YEARS AGO, I HAD AN ARM THAT DID NOT COME UP , THIS GRABS IT, BRINGS IT RIGHT BACK IN , AND DUMPS A BACK OVER

>> IS THERE A FLANGED AT THE TOP?

>> THERE IS A FLANGED AT THE TOP. THEY'RE PRETTY COOL, JUST

TO CLARIFY. >> JUST LOOK IT UP ON YOUTUBE.

IT'S JUST GONE INSTANTLY. >> YEAH, IT TALKS BACK INTO TH VEHICLE. SO, THAT'S FOR RESIDENTIAL TRASH AND RECYCLING AND AS TO CLARIFY, UNDERSTAND THAT THE WAY WE SET THIS UP IS THAT YOU WILL HAVE BULK RODS THAT RUN SEPARATELY EVERY DAY .

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SO, THE START MONDAY MORNING WITH YOUR 240 YARD GRAVEL TRUCK , AND TWO TO THREE REALTORS. THEY CONCENTRATE ON A SECTION FOR THAT WE, AND THAT'S ALL THE DO. WE HAVE TRUCKS THAT JUST D SOLID WASTE, AND WE HAVE TRUCKS THAT JUST TO RECYCLING, AND OTHER TRUCKS ADJUSTABLE. RIGHT NOW WHAT IS CURRENTLY HAPPENING IS THEY ARE TRYING TO MIX BOTH TOGETHER. WE HAVE AN IN THREE

SECONDS. >> SO, BUT WOULD RUN ON A REGULAR BASIS? YOU DON'T HAVE T CALL?

>> WE'LL HAVE A SCHEDULE PER WEEK TO GET A CALENDAR ON WHER

IT IS. >> THE WORD IS WE JUST BID OUT THE MONTH. SO, RESIDENT WOULD GET IT ON THIS DAY OF THE MONTH THAT THE FIRST WEEK IS BY THE SECOND WEEK .

>> YOU CAN ACCESS THE SCHEDULE ON THE APP.

>> YES, ON THE APP, ONLINE . NOTIFICATIONS WILL BE SENT TO RESIDENTS AS WELL AS AN EDUCATION PROCESS.

>> AND IF THERE IS A DELAY OR SOMETHING?

>> THAT IS CAPABLE OF PUTTING OUT NOTIFICATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THE SAYS WE ARE HAVIN A SUSPENSION.

>> AND WE COMMUNICATED WITH OTHER CITIES TO DISCUSS WITH THESE COMPANIES FOR WHAT THESE EXPERIENCES HAVE BEEN?

>> YES, WE CHECKED WITH EVERYBODY.

>> IT IS WANT TO CHECK, WITH REGARD TO NUMBER OF CUSTOMER SERVICE ARE PRESENTED IS, WE THINK WHAT A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO IN TERMS OF SUPERVISOR COVERAGE. SO, I'M WONDERING HOW OFTEN A CALL GETS ROUTED TO A SUPERVISOR THAT IS JUST YOUR

CALL TO STAFF? >> IS IS AN ESCALATION PROCESS THAN THE WAY WE ARE WIRED IS THAT, THE ESCALATION COMES THE CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER . SO, A SUPERVISOR WILL OVERSEE THAT THEY WILL DO THIS IN ABOUT 15 SECOND TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT HER PEOPLE ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING. IF THERE IS EVER A QUESTION, IT WILL GO UP TO OUR GENERAL MANAGER.

>> AND ASKED THE QUESTION , BECAUSE I DON'T DO GOOD IS ANY SECRET THAT WERE SERVICE PROVIDER HAS BEEN LESS THAN STELLAR. SO, WE HAD TO BE A GAME CHANGER IN THAT WAY TO DO SOME QUALITY SERVICE IN THAT AREA.

>> WE MEET IN THE FACT WITH TH WAY THAT WE ARE SET UP IS THIS IS A DIVISION FOR EVERY CALL THAT COMES INTO THE CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER, WE GET CHARGED. SO, IT BEHOOVES OF US THAT THE TAKE MONEY AWAY FROM US EVERY MONTH THAT WE ARE NOT DOING WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO AT THE END OF THE YEAR. WHY DIDN'T YOU? YOU DIDN'T DO WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. BUT, THEY TAKE IT AWAY IS SAYING YOU DIDN'T D WHAT YOU DO.

>> YOU JUST MADE MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS VERY HAPPY BY SAYING THAT.

FOLLOWING YOUR QUESTIONS, THES COMPLAINTS HAVE BEEN REPLACED.

BUT CONSTRUCTION IS JUST A CHALLENGE.

>> WITH OUR WHEELS FALLING OFF WE CALL, AND IT HAPPENS.

>> WE ARE DEALING WITH TWO MAJO NATIONAL CORPORATIONS , EITHER ONE THAT HAVE AN ABUNDANCE OF ASSETS. SO, YOU KNOW, NOTHING AGAINST OUR CURRENT VENDOR . HI CLOSEST PLACE IS IN IOWA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO, THEY ARE LIMITED IN WHAT THEY CAN HAVE HERE. THESE TWO COMPANIES ARE WELL KNOWN NATIONALLY. NO, THERE NATIONALLY RANKED, AND THEY HAVE NUMBERS OF ASSETS.

ALL OF THE BINS WE ARE GOING TO GET ARE GOING TO BE NEW STARTING OFF, AND THEY HAVE THE ASSETS TO REPLACE ALL THAT

STUFF. >> IT WAS NOT TO PICK UP THE OL

ONES, IT'S ALWAYS A PROCESS. >> THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS THAT THEY WILL GO THROUGH. BUT THEY BOTH HAVE GREAT PLANS FOR

LIMITATION. >> SO, I AM JUST CURIOUS WHY W DID NOT INSPECT INTO OUR DISASTER RESPONSE , AND I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT TORNADOES, BECAUSE THAT IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LEVEL , BUT IS VERY POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER MAJOR FREEZE EVENT, WE CAN HAVE AN ICE EVENT , AND IRREVERSIBLE EVENT. NOW, EVERY RESIDENT IN TOWN IS GOING TO HAVE WAY MORE THAN EIGHT CUBIC YARDS. LOOKING AT THESE DOLLARS THEY CAN ADD HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS FOR OUR RESIDENTS. SO,

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IT'S AN YOU MAY HAVE A CANCER TODAY, OR IS IT SOMETHING FURTHER ON ONLINE? TO ME, I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT A PREMIUM BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE, WHETHER DOES THIS, OR A SEPARATE DEAL THAT WE CAN PREPARE FOR THAT I THE CASE THAT WE RUN INTO SOME OF THOSE SITUATIONS, SO WE DON' PEOPLE SITTING WITH DEBRIS IN THEIR YARD FOR A MONTH , AND IT IS COSTING THEM HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF DOLLAR TO GET THEIR YARD CLEANED UP.

>> SO, PART OF THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATION IS THAT THERE ARE CLAUSES IN THEIR THAT WE RECEIVED 20%, I THINK THAT'S WHAT OUR CURRENT DEAL IS THAT WE HAVE. ONCE WE MEET THAT CRITERIA , WE WILL SPEAK TO THE CREW TEAM . ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF HAVING A NATIONA CORPORATION RESIDENCE IS THAT YOU CAN GET ASSETS FROM ALL OVER. SO, IF IT'S A LOCALIZED EVENT, THEY CAN GET THAT HERE I A WEEK. THEY WILL GET THAT OUT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. YOU MA GET BILLED WITH THE CITY, BUT W CAN DISCUSS AS PART OF THE CONTRACT WHAT HAPPENS. OUR CURRENT CONTRACT, I BELIEVE, I COULD BE WRONG, I HAVE TO LOOK

AT IT . >> 20% OF BOTH?

>> IF YOUR TONE IT GOES UP BY MORE THAN 20%, THAT TRIGGERS A DISASTER EVENT. THERE IS SPECIA PRICING FOR THAT. THAT HAS YET TO BE HASHED OUT AS PER THE CONTRACT.

>> DID YOU GET AN IDEA OF THAT? BECAUSE I COULD MAKE UP THE COST DIFFERENCE IN ONE EVENT, W ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO NATIONAL COMPANIES HERE , YOU LAID IT OU PRETTY WELL AND PRICE IT WHAT I IS. IF YOU HAVE ONE EVENT, AND THE OTHER CUSTOMER IS CONSIDERE CHEAPER, AND THEY CAN STILL GET EVERYTHING PICKED UP, YOU COULD EVEN THE PLAYING FIELD A LITTLE BIT.

>> DO WE STILL HAVE CONTRACTS?

>> WE DO. >> WE HAD A THIRD PARTY THAT CA COME IN AND HELP US REMEDIATE THAT .

>> I AGREE. WITH A TORNADO , THAT IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT SET.

BUT, WE COULD HAVE AN ICE STOR NEXT FEBRUARY THAT GENERATES HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TONS O DEBRIS THAT DOES NOT GET PICKED UP THAT NOW RESULTS IN TONS O TREES ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN TO GE PICKED UP . ONE OTHER COMPANY I GOING TO COST MORE THAN THE OTHER. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THESE COMPANIES, THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO IT. REALLY, IT GETS DOWN TO THE FINE DETAILS.

>> SO, IN EITHER CASE, WE ARE STILL NEGOTIATING THAT CONTRACT SO THAT DISASTER CLAUSE WOULD STILL BE NEGOTIATED WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT , ANY OF THEM. SO, THE BASE RATE, WHATEVER THE CONTRACT SAYS FOR THOSE EVENTS WE ARE STILL DEALING WITH THE LOWEST RATE RIGHT NOW. SO, I STILL THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, WITH THOSE ISSUES TAKE PLACE, WILL STILL TAKE THAT COST OUT OF THE VENDOR GOING FORWARD.

>> HOW DID YOU ALL MANAGE THE 2020 ICE STORM? THAT WAS NOT LOCALIZED, THAT WAS A STATEWIDE DISASTER.

>> IT TOOK GETTING WITH THE CURRENT VENDOR.

>> I KNOW HOW WE DID IT. SO WE HAVE AN ADVANTAGE OVER 500 TRUCKS IN NORTH TEXAS. SO, FIRST, WE PULL RESOURCES THAT ARE POSSIBLE THAT IS EVERYWHERE WITH OUR RESOURCES TIED UP .

BUT, WHEN THAT STORM HITS, THA WAS BARKING CONTRACTS. A LOT OF OUR CONTRACTS WERE NOT OUT ALREADY, SO HOW MUCH DO YOU HAVE, THIS IS HOW MUCH IT IS GOING TO TAKE. AND THEN, THE DISPOSAL FEES ARE GREAT FOR VEHICLES. SO, THAT SETS THE COST. A LOT OF TIMES , WHAT YOU SEE HAPPENS IS THAT THEY'RE PUTTING THE GUARDS OUT . SO, THE THREE SEE LITTLE BIT OF AN ADVANTAGE. THE OTHER ADVANTAGE IS THAT RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE A MIXTURE TO PICK UP SOLID WASTE, AND THE PICKUP BRUSH IN THE SAM VEHICLE. THIS WILL BE SEGREGATE TO WHERE YOU KNOW BOTH VOLUMES . THAT'S ALL WE ARE PICKING UP

>> I THINK DURING A NATURAL DISASTER LIKE THAT, YES, IT GETS PICKED UP, BUT RIGHT NOW, WE ARE ON THIS TECHNOLOGY, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IN THE FIRST OF THE MONTH THAT IS

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REQUIRED WITH THE CITY DOES NO UNTIL THE END OF THE MONTH.

THEY'RE SITTING THERE FOR 30 DAYS, AND I WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE GETTING CLEANED UP AS

QUICKLY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. >> THEY TALKED TO SOME OF OUR PARTNERS , WHICH WE WRITE OURSELVES WITH RESPONSIVENESS.

AND IS IN THE FRUSTRATION OF OUR CITIZENS, WE HAVE A PLAN FO OUR GROUP. SO, WE HAVE A LOT O RESOURCES WE CAN PULL. WE ARE ALSO GAUGED TO RUN THIS THROUG ROWLETT FOR 15 YEARS. WITH WHA IS GOING ON HERE FOR A LONG TIME, WE MOVE ACROSS THE LAKE , AND WE HAD MORE EQUIPMENT , BECAUSE WE KNOW WHATEVER IT TAKES, WE RAN VEHICLES . SO, WE HAVE DONE OUR HOMEWORK YOUR OVE AND OVER TO SET OURSELVES UP FOR THE SPACE. NOT JUST RIGHT NOW WHERE WE AREN'T SEEING ANYTHING, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT EARLY FALL FOR WHAT IS GOING UP. WE GAUGE OURSELVES DAY IN

AND DAY OUT. >> ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK, DID YOU EVEN GET AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT IT WOULD BE TWO TIMES A MONTH WITH TRASH PICKUP? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GO BACK AND SEE IF WE GIVE DIRECTION ON ONE WAY , AND SEE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE DID THIS TWICE A MONTH?

>> WE NEED TO CHECK WITH THAT.

>> THE REQUEST FOR ONCE A MONTH WAS BASED ON SURVEY DATA , AS WELL AS TRYING TO ENHANCE THE COST. ONCE A MONTH, FOR MOST O THE FOLKS WHO ARE AT THE READINGS, IT WAS QUITE ADEQUATE IT WAS BY FAR ONCE A MONTH. THESE FOLKS ARE AT THE CITY , TYPICALLY, ONCE A MONTH IS ADEQUATE FOR THEM.

>> SPEAKING OF SERVICE, HOW MAN SURVEY RESULTS WERE GIVEN?

>> 347. >> YOU SAID THAT THE MAJORITY DESIRE TO BE AUTOMATED FOR THE SERVICES? IS ALSO WE DON'T HAV A LOT OF CHOICE. IF THE INDUSTR IS GOING TO THAT WITH THE REAR

LOADER -- >> LET ME SPEAK TO THAT. WE DID INTERVIEW REAR LOADERS IN THE CONTRACT , AND WE FOUND THEIR PRICING FOR THEIR REAR LOADER TO BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY

WOULD NOT WANT TO SPEND. >> WAS THE COST MADE -- ATTIRE.

>> DO WE KNOW THAT WITH THE SURVEY RESPONDENTS? IS THAT WH THEY OVERWHELMINGLY ROOT FOR THAT?

>> YES. >> THIS IS A ONE DOLLAR FIGURE, AND THIS IS THE TWO DOLLAR FIGURE BASED ON JUST THE

EXPERIENCE THESE GUYS HAD. >> SO, THE SURVEY RESULTS PROBABLY WERE IMPACTED CONSIDERABLY BY THE DEPARTMENT

>> ONE OTHER THING, YOU TALKED ABOUT NEEDING TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC IN TERMS OF THE EVENTS. HOW PRECISE DOES THAT HAVE TO BE, AND WHAT HAPPENS TO SOMEONE PUT THEIR TRASH OUT, BUT IT IS

NOT RIGHT? >> WE STILL HAVE THE SERVICE TODAY. SO, THE BINS MUST BE PLACED, WE DON'T OUT WANT OUR CONTRACTORS GOING UP INTO YOUR YARD, SO WE ASK THAT THE AUTOMATED SIDE LOADERS , THEY HAVE TO BE WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FEET WITHIN THE ALLEY, OR 70 FEET IN THE STREET TO THE CERTAIN SERVICE. THEY HAVE TO BE SEPARATED. I THINK I IS A FOUR OR THREE FOOT SEPARATION BETWEEN THE TWO CAMPS, WHEREAS TODAY, MOST FOLKS -- THAT IS PART OF THE INDICATION PROCESS FOR PLACING THAT OUT FOR SURE.

>> SO, SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT SEPARATE THEM SUFFICIENTLY THEN

THEIR CONSEQUENCES? >> THAT IS A CHANCE FOR EDUCATION. SO, WE PICK IT UP AN PLACE IT WHERE WE WANTED, AND

THEN WE WOULD PLACE A TAG. >> SO, YOU WILL HAVE SOMETHING

FOR THEM? >> THERE WILL BE A GRACE PERIOD

SPRAY PAINT. >> WE HAVE SOME.

>> WE HAVE SOME THAT'S IS SCENTED LIKE CHOCOLATE.

>> THAT IS ON STREET PARKING INTERFERE WITH AUTOMATED SIDE

LOADERS? >> THERE ON THE BLOCK, BECAUSE THAT BECOMES A SAFETY ISSUE. SO, THEY CAN TAG IT, LET THE

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RESIDENT KNOW , AND ASK WE HAVE DONE, SAME WITH OUR VENDORS.

THERE IS NO COST TO TAKE A PICTURE OF IT, AND SHOW THAT

THERE IS A CAR BLOCKING IT. >> WHAT IS OUR PLAN TO HANDLE,

WELL, THAT'S NOT MY CAR. >> IT GETS TAGGED, AND THEN THERE IS A RESOLUTION TO THAT.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> SO, IT GETS TAGGED, IT DOES

GET PICKED UP, IT'S TAG. >> THAT'S TYPICALLY THE NEXT

CYCLE, YES. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. IF THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT TO TAKE THEIR TRASH CAN OUT, WHAT DO YO

DO? >> CURRENTLY, WE PROVIDE CERTAIN SERVICES. THE RESIDENT WILL NEED TO CALL A GROUP, ,

AND THEY WILL SIGN UP. >> THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN OFFERED

THE SAME THING. >> WE WOULD HAVE A HANDICAP STICKER ADDED TO OUR LIST , AND THEN, WE WILL GO UNDER TREE THE CAN . TYPICALLY, WE HAVE THE VENDOR AND THE RESIDENT ON PLACEMENT , DEPENDING ON HOW TH HOME IS. IT CAN'T BE INSIDE TH HOME, IT CAN'T BE INSIDE THE GARAGE UNLESS THE GARAGE DOOR I OPEN. WE DO HAVE RESIDENTS WHO LEAVE IT IN THE GARAGE , OR PUL IT JUST OUTSIDE THE FENCE , SINCE WE DON'T WANT THEM GOING INTO YOUR FENCE. THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, WE ARE WORKING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE BEST WA TO DO THIS BACKDOOR SERVICE

CURRENTLY. >> WE LET THE REPUBLIC TALK, AN WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE WAYS OF CONNECTION.

FAIRNESS, I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE THEM A CHANCE.

>> THIS IS EXACTLY THE SAME WAY I PROMISE WE DO NOT GET TOGETHE BEFORE. I PROMISE, WE LOOK VERY SIMILAR.

>> MAYOR COUNCIL, WE HAVE WASTE MANAGEMENT WITH CONNECTIONS? VERY SIMILAR FOR YOUR COMPANY , YOU GUYS CHOSE THE RIGHT THIN . TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MAYOR, WE ARE SPECIFICALLY THINKING ABOUT IT REALLY HYPER SITUATION. HOW ARE WE DOING ON THIS? OUR THOUGHT PROCESS FOR THE SERVICES, WE ARE GETTING RELOADED. SO, WE DID NOT WANT TO PUT YOU IN A TIGHT SPOT , SO I BREAK UP A BULK ITEM ? THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGE IN THERE, RIGHT? THAT WAS OUR THOUGHT PROCESS. THAT'S JUST FOR THE SMALLER AREAS. OR, SOMETHING T THAT EFFECT. BUT, IT IS A VERY SIMILAR SERVICE . OUR CALL CENTER, WHEN YOU'RE ASKING ABOU THE ONE IN 10 , THE SUPERVISOR SITS RIGHT THERE WITH THOSE CALLS , AND SHE SITS RIGHT OUTSIDE MY OFFICE. SO, THE ONE AND 10 IS RIGHT THERE. SAME SERVICE SITUATION, I THINK .

WHEN I CALL YOU LATER THE PRICE , RESIDENTIAL PRICING WITH LOWER, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL TOGETHER , THEN THE CITY WOULD SAVE ABOUT $400,000.00 A YEAR.

THE CONTRACTOR, THE PRICING BEFORE AND AFTER. SO, AFTER LOOKING AT THE CURRENT COMMERCIAL PRICING , I THINK SOME OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS NEE A REFRESHMENT. SO, WERE TRYING TO ADD THAT TOGETHER. ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE RAISED?

>> SO, WAS THE REASON FOR, I GUESS THERE IS A REASON FOR BEING JUST A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, AND COST IS DUE TO THE REAR LOADER SITUATION DISCUSSED HERE

>> I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT IS GUIDED, PER SE, WITH COST, BUT WE THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS A SOURCE. SO, WE CAN

YOU SUFFER BULK AS WELL. >> GOTCHA.

>> JUST FOR THE SMALLER? >> YES, JUST FOR THE SMALLER.

>> AND WE HAVE ANOTHER MODEL JUST FOR THE MAJORITY OF 99% OF THE CITY SERVICE WAYS. SO, WE HAVE A VERY TIGHT WITH LIMITED

REGION. >> SO, THERE 20 AREAS IN THE

CITY THERE'S MORE? >> 10 OR 12.

>> 10 OR 12, WELL. >> YEAH, YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB IN THE SET UP WITH THIS. TH INTERVIEW PROCESS WAS FANTASTIC , AND WE DOES APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE YOUR SERVIC

AROUND. >> THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR, FOR RUNNING AREAS , CAN I ASK ABOUT PRICING? IT RANGES FROM $7.00, AND THAT IS ONLY SOLID WASTE, NO

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RECYCLABLES, UP TO $24.00 FOR FULL-SERVICE THAT THE CITY GET BUILT. SO, SHE HAD THAT INFORMATION . IT'S ALL OVER THE MAP, BECAUSE EVERYONE'S SERVIC IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

>> YES. SO, I DON'T REMEMBER, DID YOU ALL COME TO COUNSEL TO SUBMIT SURVEY RESULTS, AND DISCUSS THE SERVICE PREFERENCES THAT WAS A MISSED OPPORTUNITY, I THINK. I THINK WE COULD HAVE COME BACK TO COUNSEL WITH SURVE RESULTS , AND DISCUSSED WHAT WE WANTED TO PUT IN THE RFQ IN REGARDS TO TIMING AND SERVICE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THE COUNCILS BEING PRESENTED THESE ARE YOUR TWO OPTIONS , AND THESE ARE THE TWO TYPE OF SERVICES, AND THAT' IT. AND YOU GET TO CHOOSE NOW, RIGHT HERE. SO, YOU KNOW, THI IS THE RED SHIRT, GREEN SHIRT. YOU PICK, BUT YOU DON'T GET TO HAVE A YELLOW SHIRT, RIGHT? SO, THAT WAS A MISSED OPPORTUNITY.

WITH YOUR QUESTION ON THE SURVEY, THE SERVICE HAD DOLLAR SIGNS BASED UPON THAT ON THAT KIND OF THING. SO, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE THAT PRESENTATION WITH THE SENSE THAT THAT TYPE O SURVEY , PEOPLE CAN MAKE A VALU JUDGMENT . BECAUSE, IF YOU ASK

WITHOUT THAT -- >> IT'S LIKE BUYING A CADILLAC, BUT THE CADILLAC WILL COST US

SPEAKERS ] >> WE DID NOT EXPECT ANY SERVICE . BUT, THAT SERVICE COMES WITH A COST. THESE GUYS HAVE HAD SOME VERY PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH A NUMBER OF LEADERS. THEY WERE ACTUALLY AT SOME OF OUR PRESENTATIONS. BUT, OUR GOAL WAS TO GET, WHAT ARE YOU WILLING TO PAY FOR, RIGHT? MUCH LIKE OUR FACILITIES, WHAT ARE YOU WILLING TO PAY FOR? THI IS THE CONCEPT OF WHAT IT IS GOING TO COST TO GET THAT.

THERE WERE GREAT SESSIONS, WE HAD A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT.

>> FOR YOUR THOUGHT THOUGH, I THINK, IF WE PROCEED DOWN THIS PATH OF WEEKLY TRASH , AND RECYCLING MONTHLY INVOLVED, WE CAN NEGOTIATE AN OPTION DOWN TH ROAD WHICH BE A STEP UP IF WE FIND THAT THIS IS NOT SUFFICIENT FOR US , THAT WE CAN

PRICE INTO ANY CONTRACT . >> WILL BE A CONTRACT AMENDMENT

I THINK. >> JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT WOUL ADD. WE WOULD BE REQUIRED EVERY OTHER WEEK BASED ON YOUR BULK PICKUP. SO, WE HAVE THE DOUBLE EQUIPMENT , JUST AN FYI.

>> IF WE GET HUNDRED THE BLANKS EVERY WEEK , WE'LL HAVE TO CONSIDER STEPPING UP THE SERVICE.

>> AND LET ME SAY THIS WITH BOT OF THEM. AGAIN, THE RESOURCES, THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES TO HAV THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN, YOU KNOW? AND THEY'RE GOING TO SPECIFICALLY SIGN, YOU KNOW, BULK ROUTES THE BOOK TRUCKS, AND NOT USE REGULAR SANITATION TRUCKS TO PICK UP TRASH . THEY WILL ALSO LOAD UP, AND THEN HE HAS TO GO OUT TO TH DUMP, AND YOU MISS ROUTES. SO, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THEM ALL WORKING CONCURRENTLY . WITH THE PUBLIC, YOU HAVE THE RECYCLE TRUCK, HAVE THE BOOK TRUCK, AND ANY OF YOU TRASH TRUCK. SO, THE CAN COVER MORE GROUND THAN ONE

TRUCK DOING TWO THINGS. >> SO, THE PREVIOUS CONTRACT, I BELIEVE, HAD A CLAUSE FOR THIS THE OTHER PREMIUM WAS ON FUEL COSTS. WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT HERE THESE CONTRACTS?

>> REMEMBER, ONE OF THE BENEFIT THAT THE STAFF RECOMMENDED TO THE REPUBLIC IS THE ABILITY TO DO AN INITIAL PICKUP , AND THE PINK TAG PROGRAM, WHICH BASICALLY MEANS , YOU GET A PIN TACK, ANYBODY BACK OUT IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE, AND THAT DRIVER

WILL PICK UP THAT BAG. >> SO, WHY CAN'T WE NEGOTIATE

WITH BOTH? AM I CRAZY? >> WE HAVE BEST AND FINAL PRICES. WHAT YOU SEE IS BEST AND FINAL PRICE FOR BOTH

ORGANIZATIONS. >> THERE ARE A LOT OF LITTLE KNICKKNACKS THAT MAY EFFECT THAT CONTRACT.

>> GENERALLY, WHEN HE GOING TO SANITATION CONTRACTS, YOU PICK

ONE OF THE OTHER . >> THERE ARE FRANCHISE RIGHTS AS PART OF THE RFP AND CONTRACT , WHICH ARE SERVICE RATES TO ON

ANOTHER. >> THAT'S IN THE RFP , THEN --

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>> WE DID THAT AS PART OF THAT LAST QUESTIONNAIRE ASKED FOR THIS AND FINAL THOUGHTS. SO, WE DID GET THEIR BEST AND FINAL THOUGHTS. THEY DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THEIR

PRICE AT THE END. >> OKAY. COUNSEL, ARE WE COMFORTABLE OF COMING TO A CONSENSUS? YARDS. IN TODAY'S WORK, THAT THE COST OF LESS FOR SOCIAL SECURITY. SO, I'M CONTROL WITH THE EIGHT CUBIC YARDS WITH THE

REPUBLIC. >> EIGHT CUBIC YARDS? I KNOW W

DON'T HAVE THAT NOW. >> WE WILL COME BACK WITH

DIFFERENCES . >> BUT, IT WOULD BE NICE IF HE

HAD A LITTLE BIT EXTRA. >> SURE, WE CAN PUT THAT IN THERE IF YOU HAVE CONSENSUS ON THAT RIGHT NOW. WE WILL COME

BACK WITH THAT. >> WE LOVE TO KNOW WHAT THE

DEPARTMENT SAYS FOR BUDGETING. >> SO, 18 WITH REPUBLIC AGAIN? THAT, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, IT'S NOT THAT MUCH MORE COST, BUT APPARENTLY, THE SURVEY SHOWED THAT MOST PEOPLE WANTED THE FOUR CUBIC YARD BASED ON THE COST. DOING A SURVEY ON OTHER THINGS, WE WANT TO RAISE THEIR PRICE THAT SMALL, INSIGNIFICANT AMOUNT , WHEN THAT WASN'T WHAT THEY

WANTED? >> WE CAN COME BACK WITH BOTH.

OR WE CAN COME BACK WITH A CONSENSUS.

>> I THINK THE MORE INFORMATION THE BETTER.

>> THE PRICES JUST $.58 A MONTH AND I'M SEEING $0.50 A MONTH.

BOTH. >> YOU'RE BUYING FEWER COMPLAINTS, BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU, IF YOU TAKE ONE LARGE TREE AND HAVE IT PRUNED, IT'S MORE % THAN FOUR CUBIC METERS.

>> WE ARE NOT BUYING COMPLAINTS .

>> I DID NOT THINK THAT WITH YOUR ARGUMENT. I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT WHAT THE SURVEY SAID , AND WHAT IT WOULD HURT T

BOTH. >> WHAT WE RECOMMEND IS GOING WITH ONE OPTION. THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BRING THIS BACK IS THE SAME CONTRACT. NOT CHOICES OF CONTRACT. BUT WE WANT TO COME BACK WITH IS A CONTRACT ON THE FINAL PRICE SO THAT WE CAN SEE THAT , AND IT WILL BE AN INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION ITEM. HOWEVER THE COUNCIL WANTS TO

HANDLE IT. >> I THINK I AM OKAY WITH EIGHT I HEAR WHAT DEB IS SAYING, BECAUSE THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOU ASKING EVERYBODY IN THE CITY, NOTICED ONLY $0.50 , BUT THAT' AN EXTRA THAT THEY WOULD PAY TO POTENTIALLY SUBSIDIZE , NOT IN FULL, BUT THE PERCENTAGE OF RESIDENTS THAT DON'T PUT OUT EIGHT CUBIC YARDS OF BULK. BUT THOSE PEOPLE ON THE FOUR UB GUARD PLAN CAN PURCHASE THAT WASTE, SO THEY WANTED TO, THEY COULD GET RID OF THAT STUFF FOR $10 .00 A CUBIC YARD, RIGHT?

YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT. >> IT WOULD JUST SIT THERE UNTIL NEXT MONTH. THINK ABOUT YOUR INCENTIVES. I WOULD DRAG MORE OVER TO MY NEIGHBORS YARD.

>> I WOULD NOT LET IT SIT IN MY BACKYARD , AND SIT THERE, AND DECOMPOSE, AND ROT. THEN, I HAV COMPLAINTS FROM NEIGHBORS.

>> OKAY, OKAY . >> I THINK I'LL NEXT DONATION WHY WE ARE CHOOSING REPUBLIC OVER YOU GUYS, AND THAT IS MAINLY WITH THE SERVICE LEVEL, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT THEY SERVE IN THE AREA, THE NUMBER O RESOURCES THEY HAVE AVAILABLE IS BETTER FOR US BECAUSE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE ON THE SERVICE LEVEL. JUST KNOWING THAT THEY CAN CALL ON SOMEBODY IF THERE IS A TRUCK DOWN, JUST KNOWING WE HAVE THE CAPACITY I THE REAL DIFFERENTIATOR THAT LEANS ME IN THAT DIRECTION.

>> WE APPRECIATE IT. >> YES, SIR.

>> YEAH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION , EIGHT CUBIC YARDS , SORRY, NOT FEE. ONE ITEM, 40 POUNDS, THAT'S IT.

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>> WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A SCALE.

>> YEAH, I WISH WE COULD HAVE PLUGGED THE PLANE A LITTLE MORE BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THE MARKET GUIDES US IN A PARTICULAR DIRECTION , AND IT I WHAT IT IS.

>> YEAH, WITH MY FELLOW COUNCI MEMBERS, I STRESS WHEN YOU GUYS TO THE NEGOTIATION AND COME BACK WITH A CONTRACT, REALLY HAMMER DOWN WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE IF WE CAN MAKE SURE TO GE THAT STUFF CLEANUP AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. AND JUST FIGURE WHAT THAT PRICES, AND HAVE THAT PEACE OUT IN TIME FRAMES FOR QUICKLY I CAN GET PICKED UP , AND YOU HAVE THAT PERCENTAGE OVER, WITH THAT TYPE OF EVENTS YOU HAVE WAYS OF FIGURING OUT THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IT IS GOING TO TAKE WHEN THAT COMES OUT , AND WHICH THEY CAN VERY QUICKLY TELL YOU HOW THEY CAN GET THAT CLEANED UP, AND WHAT THAT'S GOING TO COST. I THINK THAT REALLY HAS TO BE SPELLED OUT. WE HAD OUR ISSUES WHERE LOT OF IT WAS LABOR RELATED BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY ARE, BUT WHEN THEY REALLY GOT HAMMERED IN, WE HAD A BIG EVENT. AND WE DON'T WANT TO ASK WHAT IS GREAT FOR CITIES WILL HAVE THEIR OWN YOU KNOW, TRASH SERVICE OR WHATEVER IS THAT THEY CAN JUST HAVE IT OUT TO GET IT CLEANED UP. AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU ALWAYS HAVE ONE OFFS. OH, MY CA WASN'T THERE , THOSE ARE JUST ONE OFFS . IT'S WHEN YOU HAVE A BIG EVENT LIKE THAT WERE RUBBE REALLY MEETS THE ROAD. WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT IF YO HAVE IT HERE, YOU GET ON THE BACKSIDE OF IT, AND THEN THEY CHARGE YOU IF HE WAS OOH. THAT COMPLETELY NULLIFIES WITH THERE

THREE YEARS? >> IT WILL PROBABLY CONTINUE HAPPEN MORE AND MORE AND MORE. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THA IS REALLY WELL THOUGHT OUT, AND IT COMES BACK WITH REASONABLE THINGS. I PROBABLY WILL NOT BE HERE WHEN THAT HAPPENS . SO, I HOPE THAT WORKS OUT FOR EVERYBODY ELSE. AND THANK YOU TO BOTH OF THE VENDORS FOR THIS. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT

>> ALL RIGHT, WE ARE WAY PAST TIME. SO, ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

[3C. Discuss amending Chapter 34 “Miscellaneous Offenses” Section 2 in the Code of Ordinances related to Public consumption of alcohol. (30 minutes)]

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT, OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM 3C, DISCUSSED AMENDING CHAPTER 34 OH COMMUNALLY IS OFFENSES" SECTION 2 IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES RELATED TO PUBLIC ATTENTION OF ALCOHOL.

ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON THAT? >> IT UP VERY PRESENTATION. I CAN SPEAK BRIEFLY ON WHAT MOTIVATION IS AND THAT KIND OF

THING IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT. >> YEAH. IF YOU CAN PULL UP, IF IT IS POSSIBLE, PULL UP THE PACKET WITH THE ORDINANCE? JUS IN CASE THERE ARE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LANGUAGE?

>> SO, WHAT TRIGGERED THIS IN M MIND WAS THE DOWNTOWN REPORT THAT WE GOT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO FROM TEXAS DOWNTOWN , WITH HIRING CONSULTANTS LOOKING AT WAYS TO HELP DOWNTOWN ROWLETT REACH ITS PROMISE THAT WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO SEE. ONE OF THE ITEMS IN THAT WAS TO REVIEW DOWNTOWN ORDINANCES TO MAKE SURE THEY COMPLY WITH DOWNTOWN, ALONG WITH USE OF SIDEWALKS TO ELIMINATE PARKING PERMITS ON THE SIDEWALKS , AND ALLOW TOWNHALL BEVERAGES AND CONTAINERS. THERE WAS PUBLIC RESPONSE THAT. SO, I LOOKED AROUND AT THE VARIOUS CASES.

THERE ARE DIFFERENT ORDINANCES IN PLACE THAT WE HAVE HERE THA WE HAD SOME YEARS AGO WERE REDEFINED THE AREA AROUND DOWNTOWN ON THE STREETS, AND ALLOWED THOSE VENDORS TO HAVE PROPER LICENSES TO SELL DRINK THE PEOPLE CAN THEN TAKE OUT AN WALK AROUND IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. WHEN I LOOKED AT THE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS , WE ARE ASKED SOME YEARS AGO TO DEAL WITH CHALLENGES IN TERMS OF , LIKE, KIDS RUNNING THROUGH DOWNTOWN , TO ISSUES WITH THE DARK RAIL , AND FOUND THAT WE ARE TO HAVE A DOWNTOWN AREA SOUTH OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS WITH DENTISTRY WEST OF SKYLINE , AND EAST OF ROWLETT SO, WORKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY DRAFTED THAT THAT ARE WOULD ALLOW CARRYING OF OPEN CONTAINERS FOR THAT AREA. I

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BELIEVE THAT VETERANS PARK IS INCLUDED IN THAT AREA , CORRECT

>> I HAVE IT RESERVED IN A NUMBER OF YEARS. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE WAITING FOR TABLES I SALES. I HAVE SPOKEN A BIT WITH THE FORMER ADVISORY BOARD ON CHAMBER . THEY WERE GENERALL IN FAVOR OF THAT WHEN I SPOKE WITH CHIEF LEARNING . THEY DID NOT SEE ANYTHING THAT FELT THA THE POLICE WERE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH. IN PARTICULAR, THE EXISTENCE BOARD WOULD STILL ALLOW THEM TO APPROACH PUBLIC INTOXICATION , WHICH WOULD POTENTIALLY BE A PROBLEM. BUT, BECAUSE THIS PURPOSE BEHIND THIS WAS TO GENERATE INTEREST IN MORE ESTABLISHMENTS IN DOWNTOWN, WE ALSO WENT INTO THE ORDINANCE T BE PURCHASED DOWNTOWN. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD FLY OR NOT, BUT IT PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY, THERE IS A DEFENSE FOR THAT, WHICH WOULD BE SHOWN IN AN ARMBAND . THAT APPROACH WAS LOCAL HERE . BECAUSE, YOU HAVE TO PROVE THAT YOU ARE OF AGE.

>> BEFORE YOU GO TOO FAR, LET M JUST CLARIFY SOMETHING, BECAUS I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THA THIS IS PASSED ON FROM CITY ATTORNEYS IN THE CITY THAT I WORK FOR THAT THE STATE OF TEXA ALREADY HAS A LOWER IT IS LEGA TO DRINK IN PUBLIC. SO, I AM TRYING TO FIND OUT WHERE THE NUANCES HERE.

>> IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT, I SUGGEST WE DO THAT IN A

EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> I LIKE WE ARE GOING WITH IT, I TOTALLY DO, BUT I WANT TO MAK SURE WE ARE NOT GETTING