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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: GOOD EVENING, IT'S 6:30 P.M., TUESDAY, JULY 18TH, 2023. WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT AND AS AUTHORIZE AUTHORIZED IN 551.71.

THIS MEETING CAN BE CONVENED IN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. THE CITY OF ROWLETT RESERVESES THE RIGHT TO CONVENE OR CALL THE SESSION IN ORDER OF BUSINESS ANYTIME PRIOR TO ADJOURNMENT. IF YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND IN PERSON, YOU MAY COMPLETE THE INPUT FORM BY 3:30 P.M. ON THE DAY OF THE MEETING.

REGISTRATION FORMS AND INSTRUCTIONS ARE AVAILABLE

[3A. Annual presentation by the Animal Shelter Advisory Board. (30 minutes)]

INSIDE THE DOOR AT THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS. AND OUR FIRST ITEM TONIGHT, WE DO NOT HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION. OUR FIRST ITEM FOR WORK SESSION IS ITEM 3A. ANNUAL PRESENTATION BY THE ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD. DOES ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK ON

THIS ITEM? >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: YOU'RE THE CHAIR, YOU'RE PRESENTING. CITIZEN'S INPUT, DOES ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS? ALL RIGHT. THEN, YEP, COME ON UP.

>>> SO, THIS IS OUR PRESENTATION FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD, I'M SUE HARPSON, I'M THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD. SO, IT'S INTERESTING, I THINK THAT THE ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD IS PROBABLY ONE OF MAY BE A FEW BOARDS WHICH IS MANDATED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND THAT IS, AND WE'LL GO INTO, WHAT OUR ROLE IS, BUT, DURING THAT MANDATE, THEY ALSO SPECIFY CERTAIN MEMBERS THAT HAVE TO BE ON THE BOARD. AND THAT INCLUDES A LICENSED VETERINARIAN WHICH, WE'RE BLESSED TO HAVE DODOCTOR HUB, AS WELL AS AN ANIMAL REPRESENTATIVE AS WELL AS OTHER MEMBERS ON THE BOARD THAT YOU SEE HERE, INCLUDING SHELTER OPERATIONS AND CITY STAFF MEMBER. SO, WE HOLD OUR MEETINGS ON THURSDAY. AND, WE DO IT ON THE SECOND THURSDAY OF THE MONTH. WE HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST SIX TIMES A YEAR. SO, OUR RESPONSIBILITY INCLUDE ADVISING THE CITY COUNCIL ON COMPLYING WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS STATUTES RECORDING THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER. AND THE ANIMALS WITHIN. WE ALSO ASSIST WITH THE PROCUREMENT OF GRANTS AND PARTNERSHIPS AND HELP WITH ADOPTION OF THAT, AND FUNDRAISING, AND WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT FUTURE PROGRAMS AND FUTURE IDEAS FOR HELPING THE ANIMAL SHELTER, CURRENTLY AND IN THE FUTURE. AS YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU, IS WE SPEND AN AWFUL LOT OF TIME GOING OVER ALL THE ORDINANCE RELATED TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND THE ANIMALS OF ROWLETT AND WE STILL HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT FISH. AND Y'ALL WERE SO BRILLIANT WITH COMING UP WITH ADDITIONS THAT WE HAD MISSED.

AND HOPEFULLY, THAT'S BEING BOARDED AND WE'RE GOING ONTO BIGGER AND BETTER THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, LET ME TELL YOU HOW ABSOLUTELY EXCITED I AM THAT WE'RE GETTING A NEW ANIMAL SHELTER AND THAT THE BOND PASSED. WE'RE JUST OVERJOYED ABOUT THAT. SO, WE'VE FORM ADD SUBCOMMITTEE TO GO OUT TO RECENTLY-BUILT ANIMAL SHELTERS TO GATHER THEIR LESSONS LEARNED.

WE'RE GOING TO ASK QUESTIONS LIKE, IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO DO IT ALL OVER, WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY. AND WHAT DID YOU REALLY LIKE AND WHAT WAS KNOCKING IT OUT OF THE PARK WITH RESPECT TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND WE'RE REALLY HOPING THAT WE COULD BE A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SHELTER AND GIVE OUR INPUTS AND WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED IN COMING UP WITH THE DESIGN OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER. SO, WE HAVE GROUPS OF PEOPLE GOING TO THE VARIOUS SHELTERS. I THINK THEY'VE GONE TO

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GRAPEVINE. AND WE'VE GONE TO GARLAND AND ASKED THEM WHAT THEIR PROCESSES WERE AND THE LEARNING CURVES WERE. AND WE ALSO MET WITH THE CITY'S GRANT WRITER. AND WE FOUND OUT THAT MOST OF THE GRANTS COMING OUT ARE MORE FOR THE 501(C)3 RESCUES, AS OPPOSED TO CITY MUNICIPALITIES. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE GRANT WRITER TO COME UP WITH AND APPLY FOR GRANTS TO BRING SOMEBODY IN TO HELP WITH THE ANIMAL SHELTER AS IT CURRENTLY IS. THE OTHER THING, AND WE ALSO DISCUSSED GRANTS WITH RESPECT TO FRIENDS OF ROWLETT ANIMALS, THEY'RE DOING A LOT WITH GRANTS SINCE THEY'RE NOT A 501(C)3. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MICROCHIP EVENTS, THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE ANIMAL HOSPITAL AND THEY'VE CONDUCTED SOME MICROCHIPPING EVENTS AND AT THESE EVENTS, WE'RE ENCOURAGING REGISTRATION OF YOUR ANIMALS. WE COULD BE VERY REMISS IN GETTING PEOPLE TO REGISTER THEIR ANIMALS. AND FINALLY, THIS IS A NEW ONE, IS WE ARE WORKING ON PROVIDING MICROCHIP SCANNERS TO THE FIRE STATIONS. AND THIS IS SOMETHING IS THAT I HOPE WILL HAPPEN BECAUSE, AND WE'RE NOT EXPECTING THE FIRE STATIONS TO KEEP THE ANIMAL. IT'S JUST WHEN PEOPLE FIND LOOSE ANIMALS, AND IF THEY'RE CHIPPED, IT WILL BE A QUICK WAY TO GET THEM BACK TO THEIR OWNER AT THE FIRE STATION, THE ANIMAL WILL BE SCANNED AND WE'LL TEACH THE FOLKS AT THE FIRE STATION HOW TO SCAN THE ANIMAL AND THAT INFORMATION WILL BE PROVIDED TO THE FINDER AND THEY COULD THEN CONTACT THE OWNER AND MAKE THE HANDOFF.

THIS GETS THE ANIMAL BACK TO THE PERSON QUICKER AND IT ALSO ALLEVIATES ANY PRESSURE ON THE SHELTER. SO, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN. SO, THE NEXT SLIDE IS TO. OKAY. THIS NEXT SLIDE IS ALL ABOUT THE NUMBERS. AND, TO BE HONEST, THE KEY TAKE AWAY FROM THIS, AND I'LL GIVE YOU A MINUTE TO MAYBE LOOK AT IT, IS THAT, WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING AS MANY ANIMALS ADOPTED OR AS MANY ANIMALS GOING TO RESCUES. THIS IS, OF ALL THE RESCUES ARE FULL.

SHELTERS ARE FULL. SHELTERS AT CAPACITY. WHAT THIS TRANSLATES TO IS ANIMALS STAYING AT THE SHELTER LONGER THAN IT USED TO BE. AND TO BE HONEST, IF IT WASN'T FOR OUR INSTITUTING A FOSTER PROGRAM AT THE SHELTER, WE, THERE WOULD REALLY BE AN ISSUE. BECAUSE, WE PRIDE OURSELVES. ROWLETT, IF YOU'VE NOTICED HAS NOT EUTHANIZED OR SPAYED SINCE 2019. AND WE HAVE A 94% LIVE RELEASE RATE. THERE IS SOME EUTHANIZATION, BUT, TYPICALLY, THAT'S FOR AN ANIMAL. AS YOU COULD SEE, 2023 HAS BEEN A CHALLENGINGER YEAR FOR ALL TEXAS SHELTERS AND RESCUES. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS IN PARTICULAR ON THE NUMBERS?

>> I'M CURIOUS, DOES THAT BEGIN TO COROLLATE WITH SOCIETAL ISSUES IN TERMS OF RECESSIONS. WHEN YOU START TO SEE FINANCIAL STRAIN IN THE MARKET, DOES THIS HAPPEN TO ANIMAL SHELTERS?

>> PEOPLE ARE TURNING IN THEIR ANIMALS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD THEM. PEOPLE ARE MOVING BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO, THEY CAN'T AFFORD THEIR HOUSING THAT THEY HAVE, AND SO, THEY'RE MOVE ING D SOMETIMES THEY ARE ABANDONING THE ANIMALS. WE'RE LUCKY, I

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MEAN, AGAIN, IT'S A, IT'S AMAZING THE STAFF AT THIS SHELTER. THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO NOT EUTHANIZE OR SPAY, BECAUSE, I CAN HONESTLY TELL YOU, YOU GO TO DALLAS, THEY'RE EUTHANIZING FOR SPACE. ARLINGTON, THEY'RE EUTHANIZING FOR SPACE. BUT, HERE, IT'S THIS STAMP AND IT'S A TESTAMENT TO THIS STAMP THAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS, TO REFRAIN FROM EUTHANIZING.

>> (INDISCERNIBLE)

>> AM I ALLOWED TO ANSWER TO THAT?

>> SURE. >> THIS IS MICHELLE.

>> OH, WE ALL KNOW MICHELLE. >> ANOTHER PART OF THAT, THE PEOPLE HAVING TO MOVE AND MOVE TO APARTMENTS OR RENTALS, APARTMENTS AND RENTALS ARE NOT NORMALLY VERY ANIMAL-FRIENDLY.

SO, BETWEEN, RESTRICTIONS ON DOG BREEDS AND NUMBER OF ANIMALS THAT YOU COULD HAVE. SO, IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT AS, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE DEVELOPMENT COMES INTO THE CITY IS ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS, "ARE YOU ANIMAL FRIENDLY, AND IS IT SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO, AS PEOPLE MOVE IN WILL THEY HAVE TO TURN IN THOSE ANIMALS TO THE SHELTER BECAUSE THEY CAN'T KEEP

THEM WHERE THEY LIVE. ". >> THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

>> THIS IS A GOOD POINT. THE REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF SERVICE CALL FROM 2019 TO 2022 IS REALLY SIGNIFICANT.

>> THAT'S YEAR-TO-DATE. >> NO, BUT, I'M LOOKING AT

2022. >> SHE'S LOOKING AT '21 TO '22.

>> AND WE HAVE SEEN IT ACROSS THE BOARD A DECREASE IN NUMBERS.

WHEN COVID OCCURRED, THE NUMBERS DROPPED AND THEN THEY DROPPED AGAIN LAST YEAR, AND THEN IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE STARTING TO REBOUND A LITTLE BIT. BUT, WE'RE TRYING TO GET A HANDLE ON EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON. AND, IF THERE'S A TREND, IF THERE'S A REASON FOR THIS. BUT, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IT IS WHAT IT IS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING. >> I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE HAVE THEORYS TO THE REASONS FOR THAT. THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE ADOPTION RATES AND SO FORTH, I WOULD THINK THAT SERVICE CALLS WOULD HAVE STAYED MORE STABLE THAN THAT.

>> AND IN PARTICULAR, IF WE COULD LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE CAUSES OF THOSE CALLS, WHAT INITIATES THOSE CALLS? THAT MIGHT HELP IN IDENTIFYING TREND. BECAUSE, RIGHT NOW, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ABOUT TO HIT THE SAME NUMBERS AS 2022. BUT THAT'S STILL DOWN HALF BEFORE COVID. AND WE'RE ESSENTIALLY OUT OF THE PANDEMIC AND IT'S HARD TO BREAKDOWN WHAT THOSE QUARTER NUMBERS LOOK LIKE, BUT, WE HAVE WHAT INITIATED THE CALLS, THAT

WOULD BE GREAT TO DIVE INTO. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: I MEAN, WE'RE GLAD THAT THE SERVICE CALLS ARE DECREASING, BUT, IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO KNOW WHAT'S CAUSING THAT.

>> WE'LL DO MORE ANALYSIS ON THAT AND SEE IF WE COULD GET MORE INFORMATION FOR YOU ON THAT.

>> I THINK THE SAME IS TRUE IN ANIMAL INTAKES, WHETHER IT'S OR ANIMALS SURRENDERS. THAT EE- LOOKS LIKE THIS YEAR IT WILL BE LOWER THAN 2022. AND THAT'S SIGNIFICANT.

>> AND SOMETIMES THE SHELTERS ARE SAYING, WE CAN NOT TAKE YOUR ANIMAL. WE'RE FULL, AND THAT'S BEEN QUITE A BIT THIS YEAR.

>> AND THERE'S ALSO ONE OTHER ISSUE WHICH HAS OCCURRED. AND SO, WITH THE INTAKES, MANY TIMES WHEN THERE'S A CALL, THE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER, WHEN THEY'RE ON-SITE, THEY COULD SCAN THE CHIP AND FIND OUT WHO'S ANIMAL IT IS, RATHER THAN INTAKE IT, THEY'RE TAKING IT DIRECTLY TO THE HOME WHICH IS NOT SHOWING UP AS AN ANIMAL INTAKE AT THAT POINT. SO, THAT'S.

>> SO, IS THAT SOMETHING THEY STARTED TO DO DURING THIS AND

THAT WAS EXPLAINED. >> AND THAT WAS TO TRY TO REDUCE THE CONGESTION THEY WERE EXPERIENCING IN THE SHELTER AND TRY TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE (INDISCERNIBLE).

>> HOW DOES RESCUE DIFFER FROM (INDISCERNIBLE)?

>> SO, RESCUED, IT MEANS THAT THE ANIMAL'S GOING TO A RESCUE.

INTAKE, IS THE ANIMAL'S COMING INTO THE SHELTER. SO.

>> IS THAT WERE THE ANIMALS ARE SEEN IN A BAD SITUATION?

>> RESCUE, LITERALLY IS AT A RESCUE, THE RESCUE CAME TO THE SHELTER AND PICKED UP ANIMALS AND BROUGHT THEM TO A RESCUE

ORGANIZATION. >> OKAY.

>> SO, THESE ARE GOING TO RESCUES.

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>> THESE ARE GOING OUT. INTAKES COMING IN.

>> SO, WHAT HAPPENS IS A RESCUE WILL SEE THE ANIMALS THAT ARE AT THE SHELTER, VIA FACEBOOK OR WHATEVER, AND THEN, FOR INSTANCE, PAWS, WE HAVE OUR OWN STAND ALONE CAT RESCUE, IF THERE ARE CATS AT THE SHELTER, WE'LL PICK UP THE CATS AND THOSE WILL

END UP IN THE RESCUE THERE. >> THE BREED CLUBS, LIKE, THOSE THAT REALLY TRACK FRENCH Y'S OR PUGS.

>> I WAS WITH 501(C)3 RESCUE AND I STARTED THAT RESCUE FROM THE ROWLETT SHELTER AND GONE TO PICK UP DOGS AND BROUGHT THEM TO

OUR RESCUE. SO. >> SO, WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY FOR THE EDIFICATION FOR EVERYBODY THAT IS WATCHING THIS THAT IF, THOSE 114 DOGS HAD NOT BEEN RESCUED THIS YEAR, THEY

WOULD HAVE BEEN EUTHANIZED? >> NO. I THINK, RIGHT NOW,

THEY WOULD STAY IN FOSTER. >> THE GOAL IS NEVER TO

EUTHANIZE FOR SPACE. >> RIGHT.

>> SO, WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, THE ANIMAL SHELTER STAFF WORKS MANY HOURS JUST TO GET THE OTHER RESCUE ORGANIZATIONS TO PULL, GET THEM INTO FOSTER HOMES, ADVERTISING ON FACEBOOK TO FIND NEW FOSTERS. BUT, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UM, IN OTHER SHELTERS, IT WOULD BE DEFINITELY YES.

>> CAN THE COUNTY CLARIFY THAT AS TO WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IN REDUCTION TO ANIMAL INTAKES BY 114 BECAUSE THERE WOULDN'T HAVE

BEEN SPACE TO TAKE THEM. >> I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES WHEN YOU GET TO A SITUATION THAT, THOSE, THAT HAS TO BECOME AN OPTION. AS PEOPLE ARE WATCHING THIS, I HOPE THERE ARE 150 PEOPLE THAT SAY, "GOSH, I REALLY DID WANT A DOG, SO, I THINK I'LL GO TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND GET ONE THIS AFTERNOO OR TOMORROW MORNING

FIRST THING. ". >> SO, WE HAVE MICHELLE ON THE BOARD, AND WE WORK WITH FRIENDS OF ROWLETT ANIMALS AND NOW IT'S FRIENDS OF RESCUE ANIMALS. AND THEY ARE WITHOUT A DOUBT, THE BIGGEST SUPPORTERS AND SOURCE OF VOLUNTEERS FOR THIS SHELTER.

AND WHAT PAWS DOES IS COVER, EMERGENCY. I THINK TO DATE, THEY'VE COVERED ALL EMERGENCY MEDICAL.

>> NOT ALL. >> NOT ALL, BUT, A GOOD PORTION TO COVER EMERGENCY MEDICAL EXPENSES. THEY HAVE A PULL-UP FOSTERING PROGRAM FOR CATS AND KITTENS AND PROVIDE THE CATS TO WORK THROUGH THEIR ADOPTION PROGRAM TO PET SMART LOCATIONS.

THEY RUN OFF-SITE ADOPTION EVENTS AND ASSIST IN ADOPT-A-THONS. AND THEY ALSO PHOTOGRAPH THE ANIMALS AND MARKET THEM ON THE FRAS WEBSITE AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA TO GET THEM ADOPTED. AND THE VOLUNTEERS ARE ALMOST DAILY AT THE SHELTER, INCLUDING THE WEEKENDS. ALWAYS WALKING THE DOGS AND EXERCISING

AND SOCIALIZING THE ANIMALS. >> ONE THING THAT'S NOT ON HERE THAT WAS ON YOUR SITE, SUE, WAS EVERY DOG THAT'S ADOPTED FROM THE SHELTER, IF THEY'RE HEART-WARM POSITIVE, FRAS, COVERS THE COST FOR THAT DOG TO GET THAT TREATMENT AND THAT'S FOR ANY DOG IN THE SHELTER, AND THOSE ARE $1,000 TREATMENTS.

>> AND DON'T YOU ALSO RUN THE (INDISCERNIBLE) TLR.

>> TRAP, LITTER AND RELEASE. >> WE PROVIDE TRAPS FOR THEM SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO BUY TRAPS AND PROVIDE THEM WITH DOCTORS TO GO TO THE LOW-COST SPAY AND NEUTER CLINICS AND THEY COULD RETURN THE KITTIES TO COLONYS THAT THEY TAKE CARE OF

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THEM. >> HOW MANY COLONIES DO WE HAVE

ROUGHLY IN THE CITY? >> I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER

RIGHT NOW. I'M SO SORRY. >> I MEAN, 50? 100? TEN?

>> I WOULD SAY BETWEEN 30-50. I HAVEN'T COUNTED THEM LATELY.

BUT, WE HAVE A DATA BASE. >> IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WE HAVE A COLONY MANAGERMEN. AND IT USED BE MY NEIGHBRHOOD WOULD BE OVERBLOWN WITH KITTENS AND NOW MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS STABLE BECAUSE ALL THE ANIMALS THAT WERE TRAPPED HAVE BEEN SPAYED AND NEUTERED AND IT'S STABLE RIGHT NOW. SO, IT REALLY ISN'T.

IT'S A GREAT SERVICE. >>> IT WORKS.

>> IT WORKS. >> HIS STORY IS PRETTY AMAZING.

THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS WHERE THE TORNADO WENT THROUGH, SO, ALL THE CATS WERE DISPLACED. AND SO, SINCE HE FED THE CATS, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE COMING AROUND. SO, WHEN TNR WAS APPROVED FOR THE CITY, HE CONTACTED US, AND, COVID HIT. SO, ALL OF THE LOW-COST SPAY AND NEUTER CLINICS SHUT DOWN. AND AS SOON AS THEY WERE OPEN AGAIN, I THINK WE DID 27 CATS JUST FROM HIS ALONE.

AND THERE ARE SEVERAL COLONY MANAGERS IN THAT AREA THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS. SO, UM, THAT IS ANOTHER EFFECTIVE (INDISCERNIBLE) IS ALL THE CATS IN THE AREA.

>> MAKES SENSE. >> SO, THE TRAVEL SHELTER, YEAH. WE KNOW THAT I'M SPEAKING TO THE CHOIR HERE THAT ROWLETT'S GROWING POPULATION AND INCREASED NUMBER OF ANIMALS, I THINK IT WAS REALLY AN INCREDIBLE (INDISCERNIBLE) FOR A LARGER, MORE MODERN ANIMAL SHELTER. AND, SO, IN THE DESIGN THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT MUST BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. AND THAT IS THE EASE OF CLEANING AND SANITATION AND DISINFECTING.

THERE NEEDS TO BE AN AREA TO ISOLATE SICK ANIMALS TO PREVENT THE SPREAD OF ILLNESS AND DISEASE AS WELL AS AN AREA QUARANTINE ANIMALS, SUCHES D-- SUCH AS DOGS THAT HAVE BIT SOMEONE. THERE NEEDS TO BE A METHOD FOR FOLKS TO COME AND VISIT ADOPTABLE ANIMALS AND ACCESS TO THE OUTSIDE AREA SO THAT THE DOGS CAN EXERCISE AND PLAY. AND MORE SPACE FOR EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL ANIMALS WE'RE CURRENTLY OVERFLOWING AT THE SEAMS. SO, THIS IS COMING, WE JUST HAVE TO BE PATIENT BECAUSE IT TAKES TIME. SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> YES, QUICK QUESTION, JUST, I KNOW THAT YOU HAD A GROUP OUT HERE LAST WEEK, YOU KNOW, ADVOCATED FOR MORE MONEY AT THE BUDGET AND THEY DID GET SOME MONEY. HOW QUICKLY COULD WE GET SOME OF THAT STUFF, THE DRAINAGE AND STUFF THAT'S REALLY PRETTY BAD. DO WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL OCTOBER TO BE FUNDED OR CAN WE

GET STARTED ON THAT? >> WE ARE WORKING ON IT RIGHT NOW. WE EXPECT TO SEE SOME CHANGES PRETTY QUICKLY AND WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OPTIONS. RATHER THAN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, IS RATHER THAN FRAS PAID TO PUT UP TARPS OVER THE TOPS OF THE KENNELS AND THE FIRST WINTER THAT WE HAD A STORM COME THROUGH, IT DESTROYED ALL THE TARPS. WE'RE LOOKING AT TAKING SOME OF THAT INSURANCE MONEY THAT WE GOT FROM THAT AND APPLYING SOME OF THE MONEY COUNCIL AUTHORIZED AND TRYING TO GO WITH HARD-COVERED TARPS. SO THAT WE DON'T RUN INTO THE SAME THING OVER THE WINTER IF WE HAVE ANOTHER STORM.

>> AND ISN'T IT THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HERE, WHICH IS LAYING OUT A PLAN FOR THE DRAINAGE AND STUFF?

>> WE'VE LOOKED AT POSSIBLE DOING CONCRETE AND WE'VE LOOKED AT USING ASTRO TURF WITH NATURAL TYPE OF UNDER (INDISCERNIBLE) AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE WILL BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE. AND, IS GOING TO LAST US AT LEAST THREE

YEARS. >> YEAH.

>> SO, THE DOGS DON'T DIG IT UP.

>> AND IF WE WERE GOING TO DO CONCRETE, I WOULD STILL RECOMMEND SOME TYPE OF SURFACE OVER THE CONCRETE SO THAT

THEY'RE NOT GETTING BURNED. >> YES.

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>> AND WE ARE LOOKING ATT LEAST PUTTING DOWN ASTROTURF. BUT, SOMETHING THAT THE DOGS WON'T DIG UP.

>> EVEN WITH THE ASTROTURF, THE DOGS CAN STILL BE BURNED.

>> IS THERE SOME KIND OF SURFACE THAT WORKS BEST FOR THAT KIND OF SOLUTION OTHER THAN ASTROTURF?

>> >> WE SPOKE WITH SOME EXPERTS AND THEY INDICATED TO US THAT CONCRETE WASN'T NOT BEST WAY TO GO. THE BEST WAY WAS TO USE ANOTHER MATERIAL UNDER THE ASTRO TURF AND THEY'RE WILLING TO WARRANTY IT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. BUT, WE NEED TO GET MORE INFORMATION BEFORE WE REALLY

BRING THAT IN. >> IS THAT LIKE A PERMEABLE

AGGREGATE? >> IT'S MORE LIKE THAT.

>> I THINK THAT'S IT, CRUSHED BOARD.

>> YOU COMPACT THAT. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL, I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO THE DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, WE OBVIOUSLY WANT TO HAVE A MATERIAL THAT DOES NOT HARM THE ANIMALS WHICH ARE OUTSIDE. WE HAVE SPOKEN TO THREE VIRENDS WITH ASTRO TURF THAT DO THIS IN OTHER COMMUNITIES AND INSTALL THE ASTRO TURF IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING THE NECESSARY DRAINAGE, THE MAINTENANCE AND IT'S A LOT EASIER.

(INDISCERNIBLE) ASTRO TURF. >> WE HAVE HAVE A WARRANTY ASSOCIATED WITH THE ASTRO TURF AND IT IS CRUSHED GRANITE. WE HAVE MORE DURABLE TURF. (INDISCERNIBLE)

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR ALL OF Y'ALL'S WORK. AND, THANK YOU FRAS FOR SAVING US.

>> SORRY. >> SORRY.

>> I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION. SO, YOU SAID THAT ARE SURRENDERS THAT HAPPEN BECAUSE PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD THEIR FOOD ANYMORE. IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE, A FOOD PANTRY IN ROWLETT?

>> WE DID HAVE ONE, FRAS DID HAVE ONE, BUT, WE JUST HAD FOOD SITTING AROUND. I DON'T THINK IT'S FOOD THAT'S THE ISSUE. I

THINK IT'S THE HOUSING. >> OKAY. SO, IT'S NOT -- I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE. THANK YOU.

>> THAT BEING SAID, THERE ARE TWO FOOD PANTRIES IN ROWLETT, AND I KNOW THAT ONE OF THEM OCCASIONALLY HAS PET FOOD AND THAT'S THE ONE AT FIRST RICHLAND CHURCH.

>> I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT IF THAT WAS A NEED, THAT PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE LONG-TERM NEED FOR PET FOOD.

>> FRAS, IF WE HAVE IT WE GIVE IT BUT WE PROVIDE IT TO THE SHELTER TOO, AND THERE'S SHELVES THERE FOR PEOPLE TO GET

DONATIONS. >> THANK YOU.

>> (INDISCERNIBLE)

>> ANIMAL SERVICES DOES RECEIVE A CALL WHEN SOMEONE HAS FOOD INSECURITIES. (INDISCERNIBLE)

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY QUICKLY THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT THE BOARD DOES. BEING THE LIAISON TO THE ANANIM SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD I MAY BE BIASSED, BUT, I BELIEVE THIS IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT REALLY REALLY CARE ABOUT OUR ANIMALS AND I THINK THAT ROWLETT AS A WHOLE, THE CITIZENS HERE HAVE SHOWN THAT THEY REALLY CARE ABOUT ANIMALS AND I'M PROUD TO LIVE IN A PLACE LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST WE USED TO CALL THE PLACE WHERE PEOPLE TOOK THEIR ANIMALS WHEN THEY SURRENDERED THE POUND. AND NOW WE CALL IT THE SHELTER. AND THAT WORDING, THAT MAKES SUCH A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE, TO IMPOUND, YOU KNOW, MEANS TO SEIZE AND TAKE INTO CUSTODY, BUT, TO SHELTER, MEANS TO COMFORT AND TO TAKE CARE OF SOMEONE OR SOMETHING. AND, WE HAVE SO MANY ANIMALS THAT COME IN WHO ARE EITHER LOST FROM FAMILIES THAT LOVE THEM AND YOU GET THEM BACK TOGETHER WITH THOSE. WE HAVE THOSE THAT COME IN THAT ARE BASICALLY ORPHANED BECAUSE THEIR OWNERS DIE. AND THEN WE HAVE THE ONES THAT ARE TERRIBLY ABUSED, AND THAT'S ANOTHER HORRIBLE SITUATION. BUT, NONE OF THEM IN MY OPINION DESERVED TO BE EUTHANIZED. I BELIEVE THAT EUTHANIZATION SHOULD BE A

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LAST RESORT, ONLY IN THE CASE OF MEDICAL NEED OR IN SOME REALLY RARE CASES, A VICIOUS DOG THAT CANNOT BE REHABILITATED. BUT, AS A COUNCIL, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYONE THAT LIVES IN THIS CITY AND, YOU KNOW, FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND SAFETY OF EVERYONE. AND SOME OF THOSE LIVES ARE NOT HUMAN, SOME OF THOSE LIVES ARE ANIMALS AND I FEEL JUST AS RESPONSIBLE TO THOSE ANIMAL LIVES AS I DO TO THE HUMAN LIVES. I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO TOO. I KNOW YOU DIDN'T SAY SO, BUT, YOU DO A HUGE AMOUNT OF RESEARCH IN TRYING TO FIND OF THE GRANTS AND EVERYTHING. AND I KNOW THAT MICHELLE DOES SO MUCH WITH ALL THE ANIMALS AND JUST THE WHOLE BOARD. JUST, THANK YOU. SO MUCH. FROM THE

BOTTOM OF MY HEART. >> THANK YOU.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> GOOD JOB, WE APPRECIATE YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: THANK YOU,

[3B. Discuss amending Rules of Procedures and ordinance to change schedule of Work Sessions and Regular Meetings. (30 minutes)]

VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. WELL NOW MOVE ONTO ITEM 3B. DISCUSS AMENDING RULES OF PROCEDURES AND ORDINANCE TO CHANGE SCHEDULE OF WORK SESSIONS AND REGULAR MEETINGS. DOES ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, I REQUESTED THIS ITEM AWHILE BACK AND, REALLY, JUST WANT TO DISCUSS SOME ALTERNATIVES TO OUR CURRENT MEETING SCHEDULE. WE HAVE RUN INTO SEVERAL TIMES, WHERE WE'RE SITTING AT THE DAIS KIND OF DWINDLING INTO THE NIGHT AND NOT REALLY CONSCIOUS. AND, EVERYBODY JUST WANTS TO GET HOME. AND THAT'S JUST NOT THE BEST WAY TO CONDUCT BUSINESS.

AND, IN ADDITION HAVING A WORK SESSION, THE SAME NIGHT AS THE COUNCIL MEETING PREVENTS US FROM SPENDING A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME ON TOPICS ON THE WORK SESSION BECAUSE WE'RE REGULATED TO A TIMEFRAME AND WE CANNOT GO PASSED THAT TIME FRAME. SO, MY SUGGESTION IS THAT WE CONSIDER MOVING WORK SESSION OFF OF COUNCIL NIGHT. IT IS, NOT UNPRECEDENTED. IT HAPPENS, ACTUALLY, IN MANY, MANY COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY WILL HAVE THE WORK SESSION ON THE FIRST AND THIRD MONDAY OF THE MONTH AND THE COUNCIL MEETING ON THE FIRST AND THIRD TUESDAY OF THE MONTH. THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION. IS THAT WE BEGIN TO DO WORK SESSIONS THE FIRST AND THIRD MONDAY OF THE MONTH BEGINNING AT 6:30 P.M., AND THE COUNCIL MEETINGS THE FIRST AND THIRD TUESDAY OF THE MONTH BEGINNING AT 6:30 P.M. I'M OPEN TO ALTERNATIVES, IF YOU HAVE IDEAS THAT MAY WORK BETTER.

>> YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND I SEE THE PROS AND THE CONS OF THIS. AND OBVIOUSLY, IT MEANS BEING HERE TWO NIGHTS INSTEAD OF ONE NIGHT. ON THE OTHER HAND, IT MEANS NOT BEING HERE ALL NIGHT LONG. STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT THE LONGER A MEETING GOES ON, THE LESS PRODUCTIVE THAT IT GOES. I KNOW, THAT MANY TIMES WE'VE RUSHED THROUGH AND I HAVEN'T GOTTEN A CHANCE TO HAVE THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED THAT I WANTED TO GET ANSWERED OR TO SAY THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO SAY.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE TRAVEL IS NOT AN ISSUE FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS BECAUSE WE ALL LIVE IN THE CITY. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT IT MAY AFFECT THE STAFF SOMEWHAT, THOSE WHO LIVE FURTHER AWAY, ESPECIALLY. SO, THEY NEED TO MOVE TO THE CITY, I GUESS. I THINK, I LIKE THIS IDEA, BECAUSE, IT GIVES US POTENTIALLY MORE PREP TIME, IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THE MEETING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING AT, SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, ON MONDAY, WE COULD BE FOCUSED ON PREPARATION FOR THE WORK SESSION ON TUESDAY, WE FOCUS ON THE PREPARATION FOR THE REGULAR MEETING. AND I LIKE THAT. THE SHIFTING OF GEARS FROM WORK SESSION TO REGULAR MEETING SOMETIMES IT'S A LITTLE JARRING, TOO. SO, ALL IN ALL, I KNOW THAT GARLAND DOES THIS, I BELIEVE, I KNOW SEVERAL OTHER CITIES THAT DO THIS. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE STAFF. FROM THE CITY MANAGER, AS TO WHAT HE THINKS ABOUT IT. BUT, BASICALLY

I'M IN FAVOR OF IT. >> WELL, GEE, I'M HONORED TO BE IN A DISCUSSION THAT'S PURELY YOUR PREROGATIVE. I HAVE A PERSONAL TAKE, BUT IT'S DIFFERENT. MY PERSONAL TAKE IS THAT I WOULD LIKE THE SEPARATION. BUT, WE ALSO KNOW

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WE'RE UNSETTLED IN TERMS OF OUR FOUR-DAY WORKWEEK STATUS. AND THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE IMPACTFUL, I'M NOT SURE. I DO THINK THERE IS SOME BENEFIT HAVING SERVED IN A CITY WHERE THE MEETINGS WOULD CARRY ON INTO THE NIGHT AND THE GENERAL, PLAIN KNOWLEDGE IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO WEAR DOWN. SO, WHATEVER SCHEDULE YOU GO TO, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF SEPARATION. I JUST THINK THAT IT'S DIFFICULT, I FEEL IT'S UNFAIR FOR ME TO SPEAK FOR STAFF BECAUSE I HAVE NOT TALKED WITH THEM ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC. SO, I WANT TO MENTION THAT, OBVIOUSLY, I HAVEN'T HAD THE DISCUSSION WITH STAFF TO POLL THEIR FEELINGS OR THOUGHTS ON WHAT WOULD BE BEST. I DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE AN OUTSTANDING ISSUE THAT WE HAVE TO RESOLVE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL WITH RESPECT TO THE FOUR-DAY WORKWEEK. AND I KNOW, I SAY THAT IN THE SENSE THAT, I THINK THE COUNCIL IS CLEAR THAT WE'RE REOPENING ON FRIDAY. I MENTION THAT BECAUSE THERE MAY BE AN IMPACT WITH RESPECT TO ALTERNATING SCHEDULES. AGAIN, THAT'S OUR PROBLEM. THIS IS A COUNCIL PREROGATIVE. I DON'T KNOW THAT I COULD ADD MUCH VALUE TO IT IN THIS INSTANCE. BEYOND MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, WHICH IN THIS CASE, I DON'T

THINK ARE VALID. >> INITIALLY, I WAS FAIRLY SUPPORTIVE, I THINK THAT I STILL AM TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. I REALLY LIKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION WITH REGARD TO THE TIMING, MAYOR. BECAUSE, I KNOW ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS FOOD BUDGET, FOR COUNCIL, OBVIOUSLY. I WOULD BE IN THE OPINION THAT COUNCIL MEETINGS AT 7:00 P.M., FOOD IS NOT SERVED. I THINK, GRAB A BITE BEFORE YOU GET HERE, YOU DON'T WANT TO SIT DOWN AT THE DAIS WITH A HAMBURGER. SO, FOOD BUDGET WISE, THINK WE'RE GOOD IN TERMS OF COST, BUT, THE STAFF COST, BOTH IN THE TIME AND EFFECTIVENESS IN DOING THE BULK OF THEIR DUTIES, I COULD SEE WHERE THAT COULD BE A CHALLENGE. AND IT MIGHT BE WORTH WAYS UNTIL AFTER WE ASSESS THE FOUR-DAY WORKWEEK TO MAKE A FIRM DECISION ON THIS. I DEFINITELY WANT TO CONSIDER IT, BECAUSE, I THINK LONG-TERM, IT'S MORE EFFECTIVE IN GETTING WORK DONE.

>> THERE'S TWO SCHOOLS, ONE, IF YOU'RE SITTING IN MEETINGS FROM 5:30 UNTIL 10:30 OR 11:00, YOU'RE GOING TO WEAR DOWN, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE AND YOU'RE TAXING THE STAFF FOR THOSE WHO MAY LIVE FAR, YOU'RE DRIVING HOME LATE. ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU'RE COMING IN AN EXTRA NIGHT. SO, PART OF THE EXTENDED GOES TO 6:00 ANYWAY. IF YOU WANTED TO LOOK AT IT AND EXAMINE IT, AT LEAST IN OUR CURRENT VERSION, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO STAY THAT MUCH LONGER, POTENTIALLY. BUT, AGAIN, I HAVE TO BEG AWAY FROM THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S GOING TO BE AN IMPACT IN PERFORMANCE, BUT THERE SHOULDN'T BE. PART OF WORKING FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS THAT YOU EXPECT TO STAY LATE FOR CERTAIN MEETINGS. I ALSO THINK THAT THERE MAY BE A CONFLICT WITH OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IN THEIR STANDING MEETINGS, DEPENDING ON WHEN YOU WANT TO DO THIS. SO, THERE'S THE CONSIDERATION, BUT, WITH RESPECT FOR THE EFFICACY OF STAFF, WHEN YOU SIGN UP FOR SOME OF THESE ROLES, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO STAY LATE FOR MEETINGS, POTENTIALLY, MOST DAYS OF THE WEEK. IF YOU KEPT THEM ON THE SAME DAY, WE MEET THE FIRST AND THIRD TUESDAY. I DON'T HAVE A FIRM POSITION. I SIMPLY WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT WHATEVER YOU DECIDE WE WILL HAVE TO CON FORM.

>> THE COMPLAINT I HEAR FROM RESIDENTS IS THAT THEY HOLD THESE MEETINGS SO LATE AT NIGHT AND THERE'S NO CHANCE FOR THEM

TO HAVE AN OPINION. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: I THINK IT HAS TO BE DONE. AND WE'LL LET YOU FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT

WORK. >> AND THAT'S REALLY THE BOTTOM

LINE. >> CAN I WEIGH IN HERE TOO?

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: YEAH. >> I UNDERSTAND THE REASONING TO DO IT AND I THINK THE REASONING IS SOUND. I KNOW THESE MEETINGS GO WAY TOO LONG. A COUPLE OF THINGS, THOUGH, AND ONE IS, IT'S NOT EVERY MEETING THAT GOES LIKE THAT. I'VE PROBABLY BEEN COMING TO COUNCIL MEETINGS NOW SINCE FEBRUARY.

AND YOU HAD MAY BE THREE HOURS, YOU HAD ONE THAT WAS REALLY EGREGIOUS. MAYBE WE NEED TO BE MORE EFFICIENT WITH THE TIME

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THAT WE HAVE, RATHER THAN DOING IT, MAY BE, IF WE COULD ORGANIZE THINGS IN SUCH A WAY THAT MAY BE OUR TIME IS MORE EFFICIENT, WE WEREN'T SPENDING, MAYBE, QUITE SO MUCH TIME ON CEREMONIAL TYPE ITEMS, OR IF WE PUT RULES WITHIN THERE THAT WOULD KEEP THAT

WITHIN 45 MINUTES INSTEAD OF AN >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: THAT'S TES.- EXACTLY THE PROBLEM, THOUGH, THAT'S WHY WE'RE WANTING TO DO THIS. IS THAT WE'RE ALREADY RESTRICTED IN TIMING, RIGHT? WE'RE ALREADY AT A DEADLINE, WE GOT TO GET OUT OF HERE.

>> I'M TALKING ABOUT, FOR, FOR, THE VARIOUS PROCLAMATIONS AND VARIOUS THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING. PUT A LIMIT ON HOW MANY DO YOU, YOU KNOW, AN EVENING, PUT A LIMIT ON HOW MAY A BOARD CAN PUT FORWARD. I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S NOT REALLY

CREATIVE. >> BECAUSE THEN WE GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE PICKING AND CHOOSING.

>> AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THAT, BUT, MAY BE IT'S A BAD IDEA, BIG PICTURE, IF WE WERE MORE EFFICIENT WITH THE TIME THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND WE COULD CARVE AN EXTRA 30 OR 40 MINUTES OUT OF IT, WOULD IT BE NECESSARY TO GO TO A SECOND MEETING? AND AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A SECOND

MEETING. >> I THINK THERE ARE TWO ISSUES, THE VOLUME OF WORK SESSION ITEMS AND THE LENGTH TO WHICH WE HAVE TO DEDICATE TO THOSE. AND THE OTHER ONE IS

THE. >> SO, THE BIGGEST ISSUE FOR ME, PERSONALLY IS THAT WE DON'T GET ENOUGH TIME TO DEDICATE TO DISCUSSION ON WORK SESSION ITEMS.

>> FAIR. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: THAT'S WHERE THE WHEELS REALLY TURN IS IN THE WORK SESSIONS. THE REGULAR SESSION IS REALLY, UM, IT'S THE FORMAL ACTIONS OF COUNCIL, MORE CEREMONIAL. BUT, THIS IS WHERE, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE MAKING STUFF

HAPPEN, RIGHT? >> THIS IS WHERE THE SAUSAGE IS

MADE. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: THIS IS WHY, GOING TO A MONDAY-TUESDAY, WOULD ALLOW MORE TIME, UM, TO DEDICATE ON THE IMPORTANT ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION. AND REALLY, TUESDAY NIGHTS WILL TURN INTO SOMETHING THAT YOU'LL PRETTY MUCH BE IN

AND OUT WITHIN TWO HOURS. >> AND ARE YOU SUGGESTING AN ALTERNATING WEEKS, MONDAY 1, AND THE FOLLOW TUESDAY.

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: SO, THEY THE WEEK.

>> SO, IT WOULD BE THAT MONDAY, THAT TUESDAY?

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: CORRECT. >> THAT WORKS BETTER FOR ME, BECAUSE, I DON'T NEED TO PULL OUT SEPARATE WEEKS FOR TRAVEL.

IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, I LIKE DOING IT THAT WAY. AND GOOD

LUCK, SIR. >> THAT'S JUST PART OF WHAT IT IS. I THINK TO THE POINT THAT YOU MADE, THOUGH, IT'S MY EXPERIENCE THAT WHEN COUNCIL SPEND MORE TIME IN THE WORK SESSIONS IRONING THE DETAILS AND THOSE OTHER THINGS, IT IS MORE THAN A FORMALITY WITH RESPECT TO THE COUNCIL ITEMS AND THE WAY IN

WHICH THEY PROGRESS. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: THE COUNCIL NIGHT, TUESDAY, IS MOSTLY CEREMONIAL IN NATURE, THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO FORMALLY, BUT, OVERALL, IT DOESN'T TAKE THAT LONG, MOST OF THE TIME. WORK SESSION IS WHERE WE'RE DEDICATING A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME TO DISCUSSION.

>> AND WE SHOULD BE. >> I'M OKAY WITH IT.

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: OKAY. SO, DO YOU NEED AN EFFECTIVE, LIKE,

>> WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE THAT PUTS THAT IN

PLACE. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT YOUR WORK SESSIONS ARE GOVERNED BY ORDINANCE.

>> IT'S COUNCIL PROCEDURES. >> SO, YES, WE COULD BASICALLY SAY, THE NEXT MEETING, OR THE MEETING AFTER, SECOND MEETING IN AUGUST. WOULD BE WHEN THAT WOULD START TO TAKE EFFECT.

>> AND ARE YOU WANTING TO START AT 6:30?

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: SO, THE TIMING ON IT, WHAT MOST OF THE OTHER CITIES WERE DOING, FIRST AND THIRD MONDAY OF THE MONTH, THE WORK SESSION STARTS AT 6:00 P.M. AND THE FIRST AND THIRD TUESDAY OF THE MONTH, FOR REGULAR MEETINGS AT 7:00 P.M.

OR WE CAN START THEM BOTH AT 6:00.

>> 6:00 FOR COUNCIL WILL THAT GIVE THEM A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE GETTING FROM WORK. I KNOW THAT WE HAD THAT PROBLEM WITH SOME OF

THE BOARDS. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: THAT'S TYPICALLY WHY MOST CITIES STICK TO A 7:00 OR LATER NUMBER, BECAUSE, IT'S ABOUT LETTING IT PEOPLE GET OFF OF WORK TO GET TO

A MEETING. >> YEAH.

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: SO, ARE WE GOOD WITH THAT?

>> I THINK SO, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE US, I MENTIONED WHAT THE FOOD COSTS, KEEPING THAT DOWN. ONLY SERVING FOOD AT WORK

SESSIONS. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: I MEAN, 7:00 P.M., I EVEN EAT EARLIER THAN THAT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S

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AN ISSUE. I CERTAINLY DO NOT WANT TO BE EATING AT THE DAIS.

THAT'S GROSS. ALL RIGHT. >> WAS ANY PART OF THIS AGENDA ITEM DESIGNED TO THE ADDRESS THE VIRTUAL MEETING COMPONENT?

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: NO. >> OKAY. VERY GOOD.

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: OKAY. THAT IS IT ON THAT ITEM. ANYMORE

QUESTIONS ON THAT? >> I WAS GOING TO SAY, CAN WE, WHEN DO YOU WANT -- WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET CLARITY ON, THE RULES OF PROCEDURE, IF THEY'RE CODIFIED THROUGH AN ORDINANCE OR

OTHERWISE A RESOLUTION? >> THEY ARE.

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: IT IS A RESOLUTION. AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE AT THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST. AND THEN, BASICALLY, THE NEW RULES AND PROCEDURES WOULD THEN TAKE EFFECT AFTERWARDS, AND THE SECOND MEETING IN AUGUST IS WHEN THE CHANGE WOULD OCCUR. UNLESS YOU NEED A LATER EFFECTIVE DATE.

> I DON'T BELIEVE WE DO. >> I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF IT

WERE CODIFIED OR A RESOLUTION. >> IT WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT.

>> SO, VIA RESOLUTION? >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: CORRECT.

>> I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE ROOM THAT ATTEND THE TASK FORCE MEETINGS WHICH ARE THE FIRST MONDAYS, THAT IS A CONFLICT, SO, IF WE WENT THIS ROUTE, WE WOULD HAVE

TO RESCHEDULE THOSE MEETINGS. >> MAYOR MARGOLIS: CORRECT.

WOULD THAT BE OKAY? >> OF COURSE, IT WOULD. WE WOULD THEN ACCOMMODATE BASED ON THE SCHEDULES.

[4. DISCUSS CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

>> MAYOR MARGOLIS: ALL RIGHT. THAT IS IT WITH ITEM 3 B. THE NEXT IS DISCUSS CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. DOES ANYBODY WISH TO PULL AN TIME FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION? OF WHICH

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