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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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THERE IT IS, ALL RIGHT. WE ARE LIVE. THANK YOU FOR BEARING WITH US. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION SO WE WANTED TO MOVE TO A BIGGER ROOM. IT IS MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2024.

WE ARE AUTHORIZED BY SECTION 551 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THIS MEETING MAY BE CONVENED INTO CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CITY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO RECONVENE, RECESS OR REALIGN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ANY TIME. FOR IN PERSON COMMENTS, REGISTRATION FORMS ARE AVAILABLE INSIDE THE DOOR RIGHT OVER THERE. WE DID RECEIVE SOME ONLINE CITIZENS INPUT. I DO NOT REMEMBER HOW MANY WE HAVE. THERE WERE EIGHT, OKAY. WE RECEIVED EIGHT AND THE COUNCIL DID REVIEW THAT AND HAS ACCESS

[3. CITIZENS INPUT]

TO IT. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON, THANK YOU. WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE CITIZENS INPUT. AT THIS TIME COMMENTS WILL BE TAKEN FROM THE AUDIENCE AT ANY TOPIC AND NO ACTION CAN BE TAKEN BY THE COUNCIL DURING THE INPUT. WE HAVE A LIST AND I WILL START WITH THE FIRST ONE. FIRST COMING UP IS SHARON, CORRECT ME IF I HAVE YOUR LAST NAME WRONG. AFTER THAT WILL BE DAVE HALL.

WHEN Y'ALL COME UP JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENTS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

>> I'VE LIVED IN THE CITY FOR 32 YEARS. I AM VERY UPSET ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING ON MILLER ROAD. WITH THE PARK OVER THERE.

AND I AM JUST HERE BECAUSE I WANT TO GET ACTION AS FAR AS CODES BEING ENFORCED. IF WE NEED MORE CODES TO GET THE SITUATION CLEANED UP I REQUEST THAT WE GET THOSE IMPLEMENTED

TONIGHT. THANK YOU. >> NEXT SPEAKER IS DAVE HALL AND AFTER DAVE IS MARK, COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENTS AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

>> DAVE HALL. ROULAC. SEVERAL YEARS AGO I WAS SITTING IN THE OFFICE WITH BRIAN AND TAMMY AND THEY MADE MANY PROMISES TO ME FOR MY COMMITMENT TO BUILD MY KAYAK POST ON MY 1.2 ACRES OF PRIVATE LAND. THEY INCLUDED THAT THE PADDLE POINT PARK WILL BE DEDICATED TO PADDLE SPORTS ACTIVITIES AND BANK FISHING WOULD BE PROHIBITED BY A COUNCIL ORDINANCE WHICH HAD BEEN APPROVED BY THE DALLAS AND TEXAS WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT.

THOSE FISHING ACTIVITIES WOULD BE DIRECTED TO LAKESIDE PARK SOUTH IN WHAT IS NOW CAMP MILLER. THERE WAS NO CONSIDERATION FOR HOW THIS WOULD AFFECT THE NEIGHBORHOODS OR HOW IT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED. ONE COMMENT WAS MADE THAT THIS WAS NOT A PRIORITY FOR POLICE BUT TO CALL POLICE WHEN PEOPLE WERE ILLEGALLY FISHING ON THE PADDLE POINT PARK BANK AND POLICE WOULD RESPOND AT SOME POINT. EFFECTIVE IMPLEMENTATION OF CHANGES LIKE THIS DEPEND UPON EDUCATION AND ENFORCEMENT.

THERE WAS NEVER ANY EDUCATION AND LITTLE TO NO ENFORCEMENT.

HERE IS A LIST OF THE PARK RULES AND REGULATIONS TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM RELA'S WEBSITE. THE HIGHLIGHTED ONES ARE THE ONES NOT ENFORCED. AS YOU CAN SEE THE HIGHLIGHTED ONES SHOULD BE ENFORCED. YOU WOULD CERTAINLY WANT THEM ENFORCED TO CAMP MILLER. HERE ARE TWO PICTURES, EXHIBIT TWO AND THREE TAKEN BY THE POLICE OF A FAMILY WHO STOLE A KAYAK FOR MY STORE YESTERDAY. THE POLICE TOLD ME I COULD NOT TAKE PICTURES OF THE THIEVES WHO STOLE THE KAYAK FROM MY STORE SO THE POLICE TOOK THE PICTURES. HERE IS A PICTURE FROM A FAMILY THAT HAD AN ILLEGAL BARBECUE FIRE ON THE LAKE. PLEASE NOTICE THEIR SWIM ATTIRE NEXT TO THE NO SWIMMING SIGN. HOW MUCH BETTER CAN RECREATION GET ON ROWLETT? A FAMILY ON THE SHORELINE CONDUCTING MULTIPLE -- AT THE LAST ADVISORY BOARD MEETING DURING THE CITIZENS INPUT I CHALLENGED EACH PARK BOARD MEMBER TO SCHEDULE FIVE MINUTES WITH ME TO WALK THE PERIMETER OF PADDLE POINT PARK AND WALK UP TO MY HOUSE TO LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE INFRACTIONS. SO FAR NO PARK ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER HAS RESPONDED. FIVE MEMBERS OF A BOARD MEMBER'S TIME. A.B. WE NEED A MAJORITY CHANGE IN THE ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERSHIP ALONG

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WITH MANY OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND SUPPORTED ORGANIZATIONS. WHAT YOU THINK? THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AND ADD THIS TO THE PUBLIC RECORD. I WILL PICK THE EXHIBITS UP TOMORROW FROM CITY HALL.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. AND AFTER MARK IS TOM SCHINDLER.

AGAIN, JUST COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY OF

RESIDENCE. >> THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO ITEM 4B ENFORCEMENT, IN ORDINANCE OF LEASED AND NON-LEASED LAKE AREA. I LIVED ON THE LAKE AND IN ROWLETT FOR 25 YEARS. I CAN TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE HAVING.

I STILL RUN INTO MANY OF THE SAME ISSUES THAT THEY ARE EXPERIENCING. OVER THE YEARS I HAVE PERSONALLY HAD TO DEAL WITH TRESPASSERS, PEOPLE TAKING OVER MY DOCK INKING IT IS PUBLIC PROPERTY, INCLUDING WALKING BETWEEN THE HOUSES AND THROUGH MY BACKYARD. PLAYING OUT OF MUSIC AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING. DEFECATING IN THE AREA, NAKED SWIMMING, VEHICLES IN THE AREA. I'VE PERSONALLY BEEN SHOT AT ONCE DOWN ON THE TAKE AREA. SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE ALSO AN ISSUE. WE HAVE AN AIRBNB OR SHORT-TERM RENTAL, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, ON THE WATER ABOUT NINE HOUSES SOUTH OF WHERE I LIVE. TAKE MY FRIENDS DAUGHTERS OUT FOR A BOAT RIDE I PASSED THAT HOUSE AND TWO GUYS AT THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL WERE CACKLING DEROGATORY STATEMENTS AT 214-YEAR-OLD GIRLS IN MY BOAT. SOME OF THESE ISSUES, THE POLICE JUST DON'T HAVE TIME FOR OR NEED GUIDANCE ON HOW TO MANAGE THESE ISSUES. MAYBE A PUBLISHED LIST OF ORDINANCES AND ENFORCEMENT DETAILS CAN BE GIVEN TO LAKE OWNERS. A PANEL CAN BE SET UP WITH RESIDENTS TO DISCUSS WHAT CAN BE HAPPENING -- DONE. MAYBE SIGNS OF ENFORCEMENT AND CURRENT LAWS AND ORDINANCES, MORE STRICT ORDINANCES CAN BE ADOPTED. SIGNS AT THE LOCATIONS LISTING PENALTIES. NO SWIMMING, NO TRASH OR LOUD MUSIC. NO DEFECATING. OR JUST CLOSE THE PARK. MORE ENFORCEMENT BY POLICE, MAYBE MAKING IT A HIGHER PRIORITY. I'VE RUN INTO THAT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT OUR POLICE FORCE IS LIMITED AND HAVE BIGGER THINGS TO DO. IF YOU LIVE IN THESE AREAS AND I CAN TOTALLY RELATE TO THE PROBLEMS WE ARE HAVING, IT IS A BIG PROBLEM IF YOU LIVE IN THE AREA. ANYTIME YOU HAVE OPEN PUBLIC AREAS THAT ARE NOT MANAGED YOU WILL HAVE ISSUES. IT ONLY TAKES A FEW BAD EGGS TO MESS THIS UP FOR EVERYBODY. THANK YOU.

>> NEXT SPEAKER IS TOM AND AFTER TOM IS JIM. DO WE HAVE A MR. ROWLETT IN THE ROOM? ALL RIGHT, SIR, YOU KNOW THE DRILL.

>> I WAS GOING TO ITERATE WHAT MARK SAID SO WELL AND OTHER FOLKS WILL SAY, TOO. I WON'T WASTE PEOPLE'S TIME. I WILL FOCUS ON MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES WITH PLACES LIKE CAMP MILLER. I GREW UP IN LOS ANGELES, MOVED TO SAN FRANCISCO, SEATTLE, CHICAGO AND A BAD PART OF HOUSTON. IN ALL OF THE CITIES I LIVED IN THE BAD PART BECAUSE I WENT TO SCHOOL FOR 16 YEARS AND STUDENTS ARE NOT RICH. I WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT A COUPLE OF MY EXPERIENCES. I SPENT MY YOUTH IN CALIFORNIA AND THEN IN CHICAGO. I'VE SEEN THE LACK OF CONTROL OVER AREAS WHERE THEY PROGRESS AND EVENTUALLY DISTURB A ONCE PEACEFUL AMBIENCE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD OR CITY. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY WHAT MY RELATIONSHIP WAS TO THIS WOMAN BUT I LOVED HER VERY MUCH. WHEN I WAS YOUNG I WAS SEXUALLY ASSAULTED BY SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN ONE OF THESE REFERRALS. THE SAME THING HAPPENED TO MY BEST FRIEND WHEN I WENT TO MEDICAL SCHOOL IN CHICAGO. BOTH HORRIBLE INCIDENTS COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED WITH PROPER GOVERNANCE BY THE CITY AND MIGHT EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE WITH THESE CRIMES MAKES ME HIGHLY

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CONFIDENT AND AS IT SECURITY PROFESSIONAL FOR 25 YEARS THAT THIS WILL HAPPEN HERE AND I DO NOT WANT MY WIFE OR ANY OF THESE LADIES TO GO THROUGH WHAT THESE TWO WOMEN THAT I REFERRED TO WENT THROUGH. I BELIEVE WITH EVERY CELL IN MY BODY THAT IT WILL HAPPEN. IT IS NOT IF BUT WHEN. WE LIVE IN FEAR THAT IT IS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME ALSO BEFORE A CHILD DROWNS SINCE MANY OF THEM ARE SWIMMING IN THE LAKE, OFTEN WHEN THE ADULTS ARE ON THE SHORE, COOKING, PARTYING, DRINKING AND DRIVING.

EVEN WORSE, A CHILD CAN BE CUT DOWN BY A JET SKIER. THEY ARE IN THE SUN AND HAVING FUN AND THEY ARE NOT LOOKING FOR KIDS IN THE LAKE. THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE LAKE.

WHAT A TERRIBLE TRAGEDY IT WOULD BE FOR THAT FAMILY. LATER I WANT TO DISCUSS A PLAN. LET'S GET AWAY FROM THE SAD AND THE FEAR AND ALL THAT. I WANT TO PRESENT AN IDEA, A MODEL IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY THAT WE CAN READ TEAM, TABLE TALK AND FIX WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE CURRENT CAMP MILLER AND MAKE IT SAFER FOR THE FAMILIES HERE IN ROWLETT.

WE CAN ALSO ASSESS THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT IN THE AREA AND WE CAN STOP THE DECIMATION OF THE BIRD AND

WILDLIFE POPULATION. >> THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS JIM. JUST COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE. AFTER JIM IS STEPHANIE.

YOU JUST SAY WHAT CITY YOU LIVE IN, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO GIVE YOUR ADDRESS.

VOLUME ] OR DISTANCES. I'D LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT THEM. I HAVE PERSONALLY WITNESSED GUNFIRE, AFTER OUR CAMPFIRES, OVERNIGHT STAYS, LOUD MUSIC EVERY WEEKEND AND TWO VEHICLES BEING PULLED OUT OF THE LAKE. TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES I PROPOSE, ONE, THE CLOSURE OF THIS AREA TO THE PUBLIC AND TWO, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE DESIGNATED FISHING SPOT BETTER SUITED TO PEACEFUL AND RESPECTFUL USE. POSSIBLE LOCATIONS INCLUDE THE PECAN GROVE SOCCER FIELD AREA THAT CAN BE CONVERTED INTO A PARKING LOT WITH ADJACENT FISHING SPOTS IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE 66 WHERE IT JUST CROSSES THE LAKE RIGHT NEXT TO OR ADJACENT TO TOKYO MONO AND THEY ALREADY HAVE STONE JETTIES THAT GO OUT ONTO THE LAKE WHERE FISHERMEN CAN ENTER AND THEY HAVE A HUGE AREA AND THERE IS NO RESIDENTIAL LOCATIONS. I

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KNOW THAT IMPLEMENTING THESE CHANGES --

>> NEXT SPEAKER IS STEPHANIE AND AFTER STEPHANIE IS MICHELLE. HI THERE, STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE. YOU

HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> STEPHANIE, ROWLETT. I UNDERSTAND ALL THE THINGS THEY HAVE GOING ON AT CAMP MILLER BUT BECAUSE OF ALL THE ISSUES HAPPENING AT CAMP MILLER AND ALL THE CRAZINESS HAPPENING AT PADDLE POINT, IT IS BLEEDING OVER ACROSS THE RAILROAD. WE HAVE KIDS JUMPING OFF THE RAILROAD AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THERE IS RAZOR WIRE UNDERNEATH THAT BRIDGE WHERE KIDS ARE JUMPING OFF CONSTANTLY. I'VE EVERYWHERE.

THE NIGHT.

WILL BE MOVING INTO AND LIVING AT THE COVE WILL SOON BE DEALING WITH A VERY LARGE ISSUE. I DO THINK THAT A LOT OF THIS CAN BE MANAGED IF WE ENFORCE SOME OF THE ROLES AT THESE PARKS. A LOT OF THESE HUGE FIRES, TONS OF STUFF HAPPENING AT THE PARKS, AT CAMP MILLER AND ON THE OTHER SIDE WHERE YOU HAVE TO WALK OVER TO SEE THE CRAZINESS. I DO THINK THIS IS A GROWING ISSUE THAT WILL BECOME SOMETHING VERY BAD IF IT IS NOT TAKEN CARE OF SOON. THAT'S ALL I GOT.

>> NEXT SPEAKER IS MICHELLE AND AFTER MICHELLE IS CHARLIE

RILEY. >> HERE WE ARE AGAIN, THE ISSUES OF PUBLIC INTOXICATION, WRONGFUL CAMPFIRES, OPEN DRUG USE, DEFECATION AND GUNFIRE HAVE GOTTEN WORSE AND ALSO COMMON. COLLECTIVELY MOST OF US HAVE STOPPED REPORTING THEM.

WHY SPECIFICALLY? TUNE INTO THURSDAY AUGUST 1ST, UPON OBSERVING AN OPEN CAMPFIRE IN EBER CALLED A NONEMERGENCY REPORT OF A CAMPFIRE AT CAMP MILLER. THIS NEIGHBOR WATCHED AS THE POLICE WENT TO LAKESIDE PARK, DROVE OVER TO PADDLE POINT AND ENDED UP AT CAMP MILLER. WHEN THE OFFICER CONFRONTED THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FIRE THE POLICE OFFICER WAS OBSERVED POINTING DIRECTLY AT OUR HOME AND BOAT DOCK. THE NEXT DAY A FAMILY MEMBER WAS A TARGET OF AND SOCIAL MEDIA FALSE ACCUSATIONS ABOUT DELIBERATELY DRIVING FISHING LINES OFF OF CAMP MILLER AND CONSISTENTLY CALLING TO REPORT LIES ABOUT PEOPLE AT THE PARK. SHE CALLED FOR THE 5000 PLUS MEMBERS OF THIS FACEBOOK GROUP CALLED RAY HUBBARD FISHING TO CAUSE HARM TO MY FAMILY AND MY PROPERTY.

AND INCLUDED PHOTOS OF THIS FAMILY MEMBER, OUR BOAT AND

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BOAT DOCK. THIS FAMILY MEMBER WAS PUBLICLY NAMED AND COMMENTS ABOUT HIM OR HATE FILLED AND EXTREMELY THREATENING. HER POSTED LIES INFURIATED MEMBERS OF THIS FACEBOOK GROUP AND THERE WERE DOZENS OF COMMENTS ON HOW TO SABOTAGE OUR PROPERTY AND EVEN INCLUDED DETAILED INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO PERMANENTLY DISABLE OUR BOAT AND INCLUDED WHERE MATERIALS COULD BE PURCHASED ON SALE TO DO SO. THIS POSTER DOES NOT LIVE IN ROWLETT, SHE DOES NOT VOTE HERE OR PAY TAXES HERE.

SHE PUBLICLY ADMITTED THAT POLICE WERE CALLED ON THEM FOR HAVING AN ILLEGAL CAMPFIRE ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 1ST AT APPROXIMATELY 11:30 P.M. EVENTUALLY THE THREATENING POSTS WERE TAKEN DOWN BUT THE DAMAGE HAS BEEN DONE. THE PROVERBIAL GENIE IS OUT OF THE BOTTLE AND WE ARE TARGETS OF A GROUP OF HATE FILLED MISINFORMED VIGILANTES. I WILL NOT HAVE TIME FOR EVERYTHING BUT I'D LIKE TO COUNSEL TO IMMEDIATELY TAKE ACTION, BE DECISIVE ON HOW YOU MANAGE CAMP MILLER. AT ONE POINT WE WOULD HAVE ACCEPTED COMPROMISE OF LIMITING ACCESS TO DAYLIGHT HOURS TO ENSURE BASIC POSTED RULES AND ETIQUETTE ARE ADHERED TO. MORE FREQUENT TRASH PICKUP AND DISPOSAL, BATHROOM FACILITIES, PLEASE, MAKE A PLAN, DEFINED THE RULES, COMMUNICATE AND ENFORCE THE RULES OR CLOSE THE WHOLE THING DOWN. I HAVE 12 SECONDS.

>> CHARLIE RILEY AND IF ANYONE ELSE WISHES TO SPEAK THERE IS A REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM AT THE BACK.

>> CHARLIE FROM ROWLETT. I AM ONE OF THE MANY THAT LIVE ON SUNRISE. I AM WITH THEM AND I'M AFFECTED. FREQUENTLY I LOOK OUT MY WINDOW AND I SEE THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR THE ROWLETT GROUNDS AND MAINTENANCE CREWS AT CAMP MILLER EMPTYING THE TRASH, CLEANING UP AND DOING THINGS THEY ARE ASSIGNED.

I ALSO SEE POLICE AND FIRE PERSONNEL GOING THERE WHEN WE CALL THEM FOR GUNSHOTS, OPEN FIRES AND ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS. WITH THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT OUR SCARCE RESOURCES ARE BEING APPLIED TO THE CAMP. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP, THERE ARE 30 DIFFERENT ZONES PUBLISHED. SO IF YOU OWN A HOUSE ZONING RESTRICTIONS ARE THERE. IF YOU RENT, ZONING RESTRICTIONS ARE THERE. IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS, ZONING RESTRICTIONS ARE THERE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT CAMP MILLER, THERE IS NO ZONING. IT'S NOT ON THE ZONE MAP AND IT'S NOT CALLED OUT. OUR SCARCE RESOURCES ARE BEING APPLIED TO CAMP MILLER, WHICH DOESN'T EXIST. WHAT DO WE GET FOR THAT? WE GET FISHING. THERE ARE HONEST ANGLERS THAT GO OUT FISHING AND THAT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. I THINK THEY WOULD BE BETTER SERVED A QUARTER OF A MILE AWAY AT LAKESIDE PARK WHERE THERE IS A WELL CONSTRUCTED FISHING DOCK AND A VERY NICE BATHROOM FACILITY. WHAT ELSE DO WE GET? ALL OF THE RIFFRAFF AND NUISANCE AND ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR. SCARCE RESOURCES FROM OUR CITY ARE BEING APPLIED TO SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EXIST, RESULTING IN REDUNDANT FISHING AND ALL THE ILLEGAL ACTIVITY. IT MAKES NO SENSE. THE ONLY SOLUTION IS TO CLOSE IT DOWN. IF YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO VOTE TO CLOSE IT DOWN AT THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY, I REQUEST THAT YOU APPLIED TIME BOXING. IT IS A MANAGEMENT TOOL THAT BRINGS THE BEST IDEAS FORWARD, ELIMINATES PROCRASTINATION AND GETS YOU TO A DECISIVE OUTCOME. WHAT YOU DO IS YOU FIRST STATE AND OBJECTIVE. YOU SAY MY OBJECTIVE IS TO ELIMINATE THE ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES THAT HAPPEN AT CAMP MILLER. THEN YOU PICK A TIMEFRAME. LET'S SAY THREE MONTHS. AND THEN NUMBER THREE, YOU PICK A CONSEQUENCE IF YOU DON'T ACHIEVE YOUR OBJECTIVE IN THE TIMEFRAME AND THAT CONSEQUENCE WOULD BE CLOSING CAMP MILLER. IT WOULD SOUND SOMETHING LIKE THIS. OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO ELIMINATE THE ILLEGAL ACTIVITY AT CAMP MILLER, WE GIVE OURSELVES THREE MONTHS TO BRING ALL OF THE IDEAS FORWARD AND IF WE DON'T SELECT AND IMPLEMENT AN IDEA THAT SUCCESSFULLY MEETS OUR GOAL, WE CLOSE IT DOWN UNTIL A BETTER ALTERNATIVE COMES FORWARD. IT IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. DO THE RIGHT THING AND TAKE CARE OF THE CITIZENS.

>> IF THERE IS NO ONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK, DID I HEAR

[4A. Annual Presentation of Activity from the Senior Advisory Board.]

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SOMEONE? OKAY, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 4 A. THE REASON WHY YOU

ARE ALL HERE. GOOD EVENING. >> I AM WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AND WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD HERE. KENNETH WILLIAMS IS OUR CHAIR AND WILL BE GIVING OUR PRESENTATION THIS EVENING.

>> GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE CITY ADVISORY BOARD OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS. OUR SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD, NEXT SLIDE , DO I JUST PUSH IT LIKE THAT? OKAY, GOT IT. I'M SORRY. THERE WE GO. OUR MEMBERS, THERE IS SUSAN BELL WHO HAS BEEN WITH US FOR 13 YEARS, OUR VICE CHAIR.

VIRGINIA DENSON WHO HAS BEEN A MEMBER OF THE BOARD FOR SEVEN YEARS, TINA CLARK, THREE YEARS, SHARON, THREE YEARS, MARILYN JORDAN, TWO YEARS, MARY DEBOSE, TWO YEARS, JACLYN PRESCOTT, ONE OF OUR NEWEST MEMBERS AND I JUST WANT TO THANK OUR NUMBERS OF THE BOARD BECAUSE THESE ARE THE GUYS WHO HAVE DONE ALL THE WORK AND THIS IS WHY WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL. I JUST WANT TO SHOW APPRECIATION FOR THEM. AND OF COURSE OUR CITY COUNCIL LIAISON WHO HELPS GUIDE US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. SOME OF OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS OVER THE PAST YEAR HAVE INCLUDED , WE PROVIDE SEMINARS FOR OUR SENIORS. WE HAVE A RESOURCE FAIR WHICH IS KIND OF OUR SEMINAR AND THE ONE WE JUST HAD IN THE PAST WEEK, WE HAD WE HAD ABOUT 40 VENDORS AND ABOUT 150 PEOPLE ATTENDED. WE ALSO OBTAINED DONATIONS FROM RESOURCES, SO A COUPLE OF THINGS WERE EVEN BETTER THAN WHAT WE SEE ON THE SCREEN. WE HAVE HOSTED SIX FREE SEMINARS AND EVEN DID A SEMINAR IN THE EVENING HOURS. THAT WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. IT WAS ONE OF OUR MOST SUCCESSFUL ONES. WE HAD PEOPLE COME OUT TO FIND OUT SOME OF THE WAYS SENIORS ARE VICTIMIZED BY SCAMS. SOME OF THE OTHER SEMINARS, WE WANTED TO TRY TO HELP PEOPLE ON WHAT TO DO AFTER LOSING A SPOUSE AND ALSO HELPING TO TRANSITION TO END-OF-LIFE PLANNING. WE HAD A PRESENTATION ON VETERAN SERVICES, VERY IMPORTANT. AND EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS. THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS SENIORS NEED TO THINK ABOUT IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE SAFE IF THERE IS SOME KIND OF EMERGENCY. ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID, OR ONE OF OUR MILESTONES IS THAT WE IMPLEMENTED A PROGRAM IN COORDINATION WITH THE COUNSELING INSTITUTE OF TEXAS TO PROVIDE COUNSELING SERVICES AND ALONG WITH SCORE WE PARTNERED WITH SCORE AND THE SENIOR CITIZENS OF ROWLETT TO ACHIEVE THAT. AND WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE INDIVIDUAL COUNSELING AND GROUP COUNSELING TO THE RESIDENTS OF ROWLETT. SO WE GOT 13 INDIVIDUALS WITH 129 SESSIONS AND WE HAD GROUP SESSIONS FOR A TOTAL OF 81 ATTENDEES. IN ADDITION, WE ALSO SUPPORT THE D.A.R.T. PASS PROGRAM WHERE SENIORS WHO LIVE IN ROWLETT CAN GET FREE PASSES TO ALLOW THEM TO USE THE D.A.R.T. SYSTEM. AND THAT IS REALLY A POWERFUL PROGRAM.

THERE ARE JUST SO MANY THINGS PEOPLE CAN DO INCLUDING GOING TO THE HOSPITAL, ATTENDING SCHOOLS, GOING TO THE STATE FAIR OF TEXAS. THERE IS A LOT YOU CAN DO WITHOUT. AND WE HAVE ALSO HAD A PROGRAM WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE ROWLETT ONE OF THE SENIOR FRIENDLY LOVABLE COMMUNITIES UNDER THE BANNER OF AARP. AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT. THIS IS OUR SECOND YEAR WHERE WE HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTING THE GOALS OF THAT

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PARTICULAR PROGRAM. IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATION, WE'VE HELD AN EDUCATIONAL BOOTH AT THE ROWLETT COMMUNITY CENTER. WE WOULD HAVE SOMEONE THERE THAT WOULD BASICALLY TAKE TURNS, THEY WOULD MAN A TABLE AND HANDOUT INFORMATION TO SENIORS TO LET THEM KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT THE SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD IS DOING. WE'VE ALSO DONE THAT AT THE FARMERS MARKET AND WE'VE VISITED SOME OF THE SENIOR LIVING FACILITIES. WE'VE ALSO HAD BOARD MEMBERS COORDINATE WITH THE LIBRARY BECAUSE MOST OF OUR THINGS REVOLVE AROUND THE IMMUNITY CENTER BUT NOT EVERYBODY GOES THERE SO WE REACH OUT TO FOLKS BY GOING TO THE LIBRARY AND TO THE SENIOR LIVING FACILITIES. WE PARTICIPATED IN LIGHT UP THE MAIN AND RECOGNIZED VOLUNTEERS BECAUSE WE HAVE SENIOR FRIENDLY BUSINESSES, BUSINESSES THAT GO THE EXTRA MILE TO HELP SENIORS IN ROWLETT. SO WE RECOGNIZED VOLUNTEERS, THERE WERE 19 VOLUNTEERS WE RECOGNIZED AND TWO BUSINESSES. THE VETERANS RESOURCE CENTER AND ALSO CHICK-FIL-A. IN ADDITION, THERE WAS ALSO THE ROWLETT DONUTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN SUPPORTING US AS WELL. WE SUPPORTED THE LIGHT THE WORLD FOR ALZHEIMER'S . THIS IS A TERRIBLE DISEASE THAT AFFECTS A LOT OF SENIORS AND WE WANTED TO SUPPORT THE EFFORTS THEY ARE DOING TO HELP OUT SENIORS WITH THAT TERRIBLE DISEASE. OKAY, SO ON THE D.A.R.T. PASS PROGRAM, THIS IS JUST SOME DATA ON THE NUMBER OF D.A.R.T. PASSES THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN USING. PEOPLE CAN GO TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND SHOW THEIR I.D. AND THEY CAN GET UP TO FIVE D.A.R.T.

PASSES AT A TIME. AGAIN, IT IS A GREAT PROGRAM. YOU CAN SEE A LOT WHEN DRIVING THROUGH THE PROGRAM. IN THE PASSES CAN ALSO BE USED WITH THE GOAL LINK. AND YOU WILL GET SOMEONE WHO WILL COME TO YOUR HOME, THEY WILL PICK YOU UP AND TAKE YOU TO A LOCATION YOU'D LIKE TO GO TO. LIKE SAY YOU WANT TO GO TO THE DOWNTOWN TRAIN STATION, WALMART OR THE HOSPITAL, IT EVEN DOES THAT. IT IS A VERY USEFUL PROGRAM. WE ALSO HAVE A CART SHUTTLE BECAUSE SOME OF THE SENIORS HAVE A DIFFICULTY WALKING FROM THEIR CARS DOWN TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER. THEN WE HAVE A GOLF CART THAT WILL COME UP ON THE SIDEWALK AND TAKE YOU RIGHT UP TO THE DOOR AND THAT IS VERY HELPFUL AS WELL. THIS IS OUR PROGRAM WHERE WE ARE BASICALLY WORKING TO MAKE ROWLETT A SENIOR FRIENDLY LIVING COMMUNITY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PRINCIPLES ESTABLISHED BY THE AARP. SO WE ARE WORKING, WE ARE IN YEAR TWO OF OUR PLAN AND I THINK THIS WILL GO INTO SOME OF THE AREAS WE ARE FOCUSING ON. ONE OF THE AREAS IS TRANSPORTATION AND WE ARE BASICALLY COLLECTING DATA AND TRYING TO FIND WAYS WE CAN MAKE TRANSPORTATION MORE ACCESSIBLE TO SENIORS IN ROWLETT. AND A LOT OF THIS FOCUSES ON D.A.R.T.

BUT ALSO FOCUSES ON THINGS LIKE HAVING THE POSSIBILITY OF BICYCLE PATHS OR SAFER WALKING PATHS FOR SENIORS AS WELL. IN THE HOUSING AREA, SOME OF THE THINGS WE LOOK AT THEIR HAVE TO DO WITH A LOT OF SENIORS, IF YOU LIVE IN YOUR HOUSE AND YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE AND YOU PAID YOUR HOUSE OFF, YOU WOULD LIKE TO STAY IN YOUR HOUSE. ONE OF THE THINGS PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS BE ABLE TO AGE IN PLACE. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE THINGS WE CAN DO ON THE FRONT AND IN PLANNING TO ALLOW SENIORS TO AGE IN PLACE. THINGS LIKE, DOES THE HOUSE HAVE A RAMP? ONE-STORY HOUSES VERSUS TWO-STORY HOUSES AND SOME OF THESE KINDS OF ISSUES. SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT.

SOCIAL PARTICIPATION AND INCLUSION, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HELPS WITH AGING IS BEING SOCIALLY ACTIVE, INTERACTING WITH OTHER PEOPLE. THAT HELPS PEOPLE ENJOY THEIR SENIOR YEARS OR SO AND ALSO HELPS LIVE LONGER. WE ARE TRYING TO MOLD

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THESE KINDS OF ACTIVITIES INTO THIS PART OF OUR PLAN. SOME OF OUR FUTURE PLANS, WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE EDUCATION TO THE SENIORS IN ROWLETT THROUGH SEMINARS. WE STARTED WORKING ON SOME PROJECTION OF SOME OF THE SEMINARS WE WOULD DO IN 2025, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT THIS MORNING. WE WILL CONTINUE TO REACH SENIORS IN ROWLETT AND WILL CONTINUE TO REACH OUT TO THEM, GOING TO THOSE SENIOR LIVING FACILITIES AND COORDINATING WITH THE LIBRARY AND WORKING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL TO GET THINGS OUT ON FACEBOOK. WE WILL ALSO WORK ON YEAR THREE OF IMPLEMENTING OUR LIVABLE COMMUNITY ACTION PLAN. AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS SUCH AS THE D.A.R.T. PASSES AND THE GOLF CART SERVICES. AND OF COURSE WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO RECOGNIZE VOLUNTEERS WHO DO SO MUCH TO TRY TO HELP THE SENIOR COMMUNITY IN ROWLETT. WE WILL EXPLORE SOME STRATEGIES GOING FORWARD TO HELP WITH COUNSELING SERVICES. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE MAIN THINGS WE ARE WORKING ON.

SOME OF OUR EXISTING CONCERNS AS THE SENIOR POPULATION GROWS IN ROWLETT, ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT OR ARE THINKING MIGHT BE A FUTURE PROGRAM TO WORK ON IS AN EXTENSION WING TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER FOR SENIORS. THERE WAS A FEASIBILITY STUDY DONE IN 2016 AND IT IS SOMETHING WE ARE STILL KIND OF THINKING ABOUT CONSIDERING AS AN OPTION. SAFE ACCESS TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS STILL IMPORTANT BECAUSE THERE IS A LONG WALK FROM THE PARKING LOT TO GET TO THE FRONT DOOR OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THERE IS NO WHETHER COVERING UNDER THAT LONG WALK AND SOMETIMES THAT CAN BE A CHALLENGE FOR SOME SENIORS. AND OF COURSE WE WANT TO WORK TO REACH SENIORS WHO ARE ISOLATED. AT THIS TIME, IF THERE ARE ANY

QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU TO THE SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD. I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU DO. I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE SESSIONS YOU'VE HAD, HAVE YOU EVER CONSIDERED DOING SESSIONS AT SOME SENIOR LIVING FACILITIES LIKE THE EVERGREEN. ACTUALLY GOING AND DOING SOMETHING

ON-SITE? >> WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT IN THE PAST, OR AT LEAST I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT DONE BEFORE BUT THAT IS AN INTERESTING IDEA AND SOMETHING WE CAN CONSIDER

DOING. >> IT'S WORTH A SHOT.

>> I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE IN THOSE FACILITIES THAT KIND OF JUST STAY THERE. SO THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER OPTION WE COULD DO TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.

>> AND IT WOULD HELP KEEP THEM ACTIVE IN THEIR OWN SPACE. THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD SAY, IN THE COMING FISCAL YEAR THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME FOR YOU TO DO WHAT IS CALLED A START STOP CONTINUE EXERCISE. THINK ABOUT THINGS YOU ARE NOT DOING THAT YOU WISH YOU COULD DO. THINGS YOU ARE DOING THAT MAY NOT BE AS LUCRATIVE AS YOU'D LIKE, MAYBE STOP DOING THOSE THINGS AND THINK ABOUT THE THINGS YOU ARE DOING THAT ARE GOING REALLY WELL. YOU LISTED A NUMBER OF THINGS YOU'D LIKE TO CONTINUE AS A BOARD. THAT'S THE ONLY RECOMMENDATION I HAVE. TURN EVERYTHING INSIDE OUT, SEE WHAT OPTIONS YOU HAVE AND CONSIDER

THE POSSIBILITIES. >> JUST A COMMENT. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR THE COMMUNITY. I'M BLOWN AWAY. I THINK THIS IS A VITAL PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.

MR. WILLIAMS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THANK YOU, TO THE REST OF YOU, FOR VOLUNTEERING AND BEING A MAJOR

PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. >> LET ME CLOSE WITH SAYING THAT IT IS A REAL HONOR SERVING AS LIAISON AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR WORK. YOU PUT A LOT OF HOURS IN THE RESOURCE FAIR AND CRAFT FAIR AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

>> APPRECIATE IT. >> ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO THE

[4B. Discuss usages of property and enforcement of statutes, ordinances, and park rules on publicly accessible non-sublease-eligible lakefront areas potentially designated as park land.]

EXCITING PART WHICH IS DISCUSS USAGES OF PROPERTY AND ENFORCEMENT OF STATUTES, ORDINANCES AND PARK RULES ON PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE NOT SUBLEASE ELIGIBLE LAKEFRONT AREAS POTENTIALLY DESIGNATED AS PARK LAND. DEPUTY MAYOR.

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>> I HAVE TO LOWER THIS A LOT FOR ME. YOU HAVE THE PRESENTATION AND STAFF REPORT IN YOUR PACKETS. SOME THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THOSE WERE SUBMITTED. I SPENT THE LAST BASICALLY THE LAST WEEK PUTTING TOGETHER THIS PRESENTATION MEETING WITH CITIZENS WHO ARE IMPACTED BY THIS SITUATION AND COMING UP WITH POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS WE WANTED TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT. I WALKED IN TO CITY HALL TODAY AND ABOUT 40 MINUTES BEFORE THE MEETING LEARNED THAT SOME OF THE PREMISES ON WHICH THIS IS BASED ARE NO LONGER APPLICABLE. THE CITY MANAGER LET ME KNOW THAT APPARENTLY THE MILLER ROAD BRIDGE AREA IS ALREADY DESIGNATED AS A PARK. IN THE PAST WE HAD BEEN TOLD WHEN WE MADE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS AREA THAT PARK RULES DID NOT APPLY BECAUSE IT WAS NOT A PARK. SO THIS IS KIND OF A GOOD THING. BECAUSE IF IT IS A PARK THEN THE PARK RULES ARE APPLICABLE, MORE QUICKLY WE CAN GET SOME SOLUTIONS THEN WE COULD HAVE BASED ON THE PREMISE THAT IT WAS AN UNDESIGNATED PARK AREA, WHICH NOW IS INCORRECT IN THE SLIDESHOW AND THERE WILL BE SOME SLIDES THAT ARE NOT GOING TO BE APPLICABLE. I WILL SKIP OVER THOSE. THEY SAY ALWAYS BE PREPARED FOR ANYTHING. SO, COMING INTO A MEETING WITH A HUGE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, HALF OF WHICH HAS BEEN RENDERED MOOT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO BE PREPARED FOR. BUT I HEAR THAT WE ARE NOT THE ONLY GROUP THAT HAS HAD A BOMB DROPPED ON THEM TODAY. I THINK THIS WILL NEED MORE DISCUSSION SINCE MANY OF THESE THINGS AND NEW SITUATIONS HAVE NOT BEEN RESEARCHED THE WAY IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IF I HAD KNOWN ABOUT IT EVEN YESTERDAY. THE PROBLEMS ARE STILL THE PROBLEMS. WHETHER IT IS A PARK OR NOT A PARK. WE STILL HAVE PROBLEMS. YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THOSE PROBLEMS FROM A BUNCH OF CITIZENS WHO SPOKE TONIGHT. AND THEY TOLD YOU AND NOW I WANT TO SHOW YOU SINCE I HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF BEING ABLE TO GIVE YOU THE GRAPHICAL VIEWPOINTS. MOVING ON, UNDESIGNATED PARK, WE WILL SKIP THAT. SO, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM OR WHAT ARE THE PROBLEMS AND WHO IS THAT A PROBLEM FOR? SOME PEOPLE IN THE PAST HAVE SEEN THIS AS JUST A SUNRISE DRIVE PROBLEM THAT JUST AFFECTS A FEW CITIZENS THAT LIVE ON THAT PARTICULAR STREET ON THE LAKE BUT AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM CITIZENS TONIGHT WHO LIVE IN TOTALLY DIFFERENT AREAS, THIS IS MORE THAN JUST A SUNRISE PROBLEM. SUNRISE IS IMPACTED MOST DIRECTLY BUT IT IS ALSO A PROBLEM FOR THE LEGITIMATE FISSURES WHOM WE HAVE WATCHED ON MANY OCCASIONS COME OUT, THERE WOULD BE A DAD WITH HIS CHILD, WHAT YOU TYPICALLY THINK OF AS THE SERENE FISHING SITUATION WHERE THEY WERE CASTING WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU CAST, I'M NOT A FISHER, IS IT THAT OBVIOUS? CASTING THEIR RODS? OKAY. AND THEN THE PARTIERS WOULD MOVE IN. AND THE DAD AND THE KIDS WOULD PACK UP AND LEAVE BECAUSE THERE WERE PEOPLE DRINKING, PUBLIC INTOXICATION, LOUD NOISE THAT SCARES THE FISH AWAY. IT IS NOT JUST A PROBLEM FOR US BUT IT IS A PROBLEM FOR SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT USE THAT AREA. IT IS ALSO, AS YOU HEARD FROM JIM, IT IS A PROBLEM FOR THE BOATERS. MOTORS GET ENTANGLED IN THE FISHING LINES, THEY CAN CAUSE DAMAGE TO THE BOAT MECHANISMS AND WE ALSO HAVE EXPERIENCED, AND I'VE BEEN OUT ON BOATS WITH THEM, WE'VE EXPERIENCED PEOPLE SHOUTING FROM THE FISHING AREA AT THE BOATERS, EVEN WHEN YOU'RE FAR OUT AWAY FROM THE AREA BECAUSE AS JIM MENTIONED, THOSE LINES ARE CAST VERY FAR OUT. I DON'T KNOW THAT THESE ARE ALL JUST RECREATIONAL FISSURES. SOME OF THEM APPEAR TO BE FISHING IN A WAY THAT WOULD BE COMMERCIAL

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BECAUSE THEY ARE USING NETS AND CATCHING LOTS OF FISH AT A TIME. IT IS OBVIOUSLY A BIG PROBLEM FOR THE HOMEOWNERS.

YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THAT. WE'VE HAD INTRUSION ONTO PRIVATE PROPERTY, WE'VE HAD DAMAGE TO BOATS AND BOAT DOCKS, VANDALISM, THEFT, GUN FIRE, PERSONAL AND PUBLIC SAFETY IS THE MOST SERIOUS ISSUE. THE FIRES, WHICH ARE EXTREMELY CLOSE TO SOME OF THOSE STOCKS AND COULD DEFINITELY IN A DRY SUMMER MOVE OVER AND SPREAD. WE HAVE HAD THE THREATS THAT YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT. THERE IS A BROKEN GLASS OUT THERE THAT AT CHILD CAN CUT HIM OR HERSELF ON AND THEY ARE IS ALSO, HOMEOWNERS HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF POTENTIAL LIABILITY IF INTRUDERS COME ONTO THEIR PROPERTY AND GET INJURED. WE'VE ALL HEARD THE CASES WHERE SOMEONE, A THIEF OR A CRIMINAL TRESPASSER SUES THE HOMEOWNER BECAUSE THEY WERE INJURED ON THEIR PROPERTY AND THEY WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ON THAT PROPERTY. THEY MIGHT NOT PREVAIL IN COURT BUT THEY STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH GETTING AN ATTORNEY AND TRYING TO COUNTER THAT LAWSUIT. AND THEN JUST BASIC QUALITY-OF-LIFE ISSUES.

THE EXCESSIVE NOISE, THE TRASH IN VIEW, THE EXPOSURE TO ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES. ACTIVITIES THAT ARE VERY SUSPICIOUS AND APPEARED TO BE DRUG TRANSACTIONS OR SOME SORT OF ILLICIT TRANSACTIONS WHEN TWO CARS WILL PULL UP THIS WAY AND YOU WILL SEE THINGS CHANGE HANDS. OF COURSE WE DON'T HAVE PROOF OF WHAT IT IS BUT IT DEFINITELY LOOKS SUSPICIOUS.

WHAT DID I DO? GO BACK? OKAY, YEAH. IT IS A PROBLEM FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT JUST THE PEOPLE ON SUNRISE. WE HAD MUSIC SO LOUD THAT PEOPLE IN THE BACK OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE REPORTED BEING ABLE TO HEAR THAT NOISE. AND IT IS ALSO A PROBLEM FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE BECAUSE IT IS NOT A GOOD LOOK FOR CITIZENS OR VISITORS. IT ARGUABLY REDUCES PROPERTY VALUES NEARBY. IT IS A DRAIN ON OUR PUBLIC SAFETY AND PARK MAINTENANCE RESOURCES LIKE SOMEONE MENTIONED EARLIER. IT REDUCES INVESTMENT POTENTIAL AND BRAND EQUITY. MY HUSBAND'S BROTHER IS AN INVESTMENT BANKER AND WHEN HE FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS AND SAW PICTURES HE SAID THAT IS A REAL DETRIMENT TO BRINGING GOOD COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT INTO YOUR CITY FOR SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO INVEST A LOT OF MONEY ON A BIG PROJECT, THEY WILL NOT BE IMPRESSED WHEN THEY DRIVE DOWN MILLER ROAD AND THEY SEE WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO SEE IN THESE SLIDES. POSSIBLE VIOLATION OF THE ILA, I WILL NOT GO INTO THAT BECAUSE THAT IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE MOOT POINTS DISCUSSED WITH THE CITY MANAGER. I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT IT IS NOT THE ONLY PROBLEM AREA AND YOU HAVE HEARD FROM OTHERS ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS WHERE THIS IS LEAKING INTO OTHER AREAS OF WHERE THEY HAVE A SIMILAR PROBLEMS OF OVERNIGHT ENCAMPMENTS, LOUD NOISE, FIRES AND GUNSHOTS AND ALL THE SAME THING. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT OUT TO BE THAT IT IS JUST ABOUT MILLER ROAD BRIDGE. THIS IS A PROBLEM THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN SEVERAL AREAS. WE NEED POLICIES THAT ADDRESS THESE PROBLEMS AND WE NEED ENFORCEMENT OF THOSE POLICIES IN ALL AREAS OF THE CITY WHERE THIS IS OCCURRING. I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THAT AREA STEPHANIE WAS TALKING ABOUT IN CASE ANYBODY DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THAT. THAT IS THE RAILROAD TRACK AND YOU CAN SEEM THAT THERE IS ACTUALLY ABOUT 60 SOMETHING FEET OR ABOUT 55 FEET ON EACH SIDE OF THE TRACKS. THERE IS PLENTY OF ROOM THERE FOR ENCAMPMENTS. IT LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT JUST BE THE RAILROAD WITH NO ROOM FOR ANYTHING THERE, THERE ACTUALLY IS. WE WENT THROUGH THIS WHEN WE WERE HERE BEFORE AND HERE WE ARE AGAIN. A BRIEF HISTORY OF THAT AREA DURING THE TIME THAT MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE LIVED ON SUNRISE DRIVE. WHEN WE MOVED

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HERE IN 2004 IT WAS A VERY WILDLIFE FRIENDLY AREA AND IT WAS IN EGRET NESTING PLACE AND WE HAD THE WONDERFUL BIRDS OUT THERE, HERONS AND OTHER BIRDS. AND IT WAS A COVE THAT PROVIDED A REALLY PEACEFUL VIEW FOR THE HOMEOWNERS. A REALLY PEACEFUL HABITAT FOR THE WILDLIFE. AND IN 2017 AS WAS MENTIONED, THIS AREA WAS CREATED APPARENTLY TO BE USED BY THE FISHERMEN TO DIVERT THEM FROM PEDAL POINT PARK WHERE THEY WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE BECAUSE OF THE KAYAKS AND INTERFERENCE WITH THE KAYAK LAUNCHING. FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, AFTER THAT AREA WAS PAVED, IT STILL WAS NOT A PROBLEM. WE WOULD HAVE THE OCCASIONAL FISHER, IT WAS NICE TO LOOK OUT THERE, THEY DID NOT CAUSE ANY PROBLEMS. IT HAS BEEN A PROGRESSIVE THING.

IT DID NOT HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. IT HAS BEEN A SLOW BOILING OF THE FROG SO TO SPEAK. NOW IT IS AT THE POINT WHERE IT IS AT THE BOILING POINT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT. HERE IS CAMP MILLER AS WE CALL IT BECAUSE OF THE OVERNIGHT CAMPERS, IN 2024. IT IS PARTY TIME ALL THE TIME. CARS ARE PARKED WILLY-NILLY, THERE ARE NO PARKING SPACES DESIGNATED, SO THEY DON'T PARK IN ANY ORGANIZED FASHION AND THAT MAKES ME WORRY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IF ONE OF THOSE FIRES GETS OUT OF CONTROL . IF ALL OF THESE PEOPLE TRY TO EVACUATE THE AREA AT THE SAME TIME. WILL THEY BE ABLE TO DO THAT OR WILL THEY GET BLOCKED IN AND STUCK? THAT IS ANOTHER POTENTIAL SAFETY ISSUE. PEOPLE ARE IN THE LAKE WHO ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE SWIMMING IN THE LAKE BECAUSE IT IS NOT A DESIGNATED SWIMMING AREA. IT IS THE ONLY AREA THAT THE DALLAS CODES ALLOW FOR SWIMMING. THE MIDDLE PICTURE AT THE BOTTOM IS HEADLIGHTS WHICH WE GET ALL TIMES OF THE DAY AND NIGHT, SHINING DIRECTLY INTO THE WINDOWS OF THE HOMEOWNERS. BASICALLY BLINDING US AND IT IS LIGHT POLLUTION BECAUSE IT KEEPS YOU FROM BEING ABLE TO SIT OUT AND ENJOY YOUR BACKYARD. AND HERE IS TRASH ON A TYPICAL MONDAY MORNING AFTER THE WEEKEND PARTY. WE TALKED ABOUT THE LOUD NOISE. HOW LOUD IS TOO LOUD? WE'VE BEEN TOLD, OH WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HEAR IT, WELL, YES WE CAN HEAR IT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING, I GUESS THE SOUND ISN'T GOING TO PLAY. I RECORDED SOUND SITTING INSIDE MY HOUSE IN MY OFFICE AND I COULD HEAR IT INSIDE, I OPENED THE DOOR AND IT WAS SO LOUD THAT WE COULDN'T EVEN BARELY HEAR OURSELVES SPEAK OVER IT. ACCORDING TO THE CODE FROM 7:00 A.M. UNTIL 10:00 P.M.

THE NOISE IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE OVER 65 DECIBELS. 10:00 P.M. TO 7:00 A.M. IS 60S DECIBELS. THERE WAS A OBLIGATED PROCESS FOR ALKYLATING THAT BUT THAT IS THE LOW-END. WE ALL KNOW THAT NOISE POLLUTION DOESN'T ONLY DRIVE HEARING LOSS AND TINNITUS, BUT ALSO CAUSES MORE SYSTEMIC HEALTH PROBLEMS AND CAN CONTRIBUTE TO EVEN HEART PROBLEMS, DIABETES, SLEEP DISTURBANCE AND CAUSES STRESS, BOTH MENTAL AND PHYSICAL. THAT IS FROM HARVARD MEDICAL MAGAZINE. HERE IS THE MEASURE OF THE SOUND SITTING IN A NEIGHBORS BACKYARD WHICH IS NOT ONE OF THE CLOSEST HOMES TO THIS AREA. IT IS ACTUALLY ABOUT ALMOST HALFWAY DOWN AND IT WAS 85.5 DECIBELS. THAT IS LOUD.

PUTTING IT INTO PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS MY HOME WITH THE RED PUSHPIN. IT IS ABOUT 1072 FEET FROM THE AREA AND THAT IS WHERE I CAN HEAR IT INSIDE MY HOUSE. WE'VE ALSO GOT REPORTS FROM

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SOMEONE DOWN ON BAYPORT, WHICH IS THE YELLOW NOT EXACTLY CIRCLE. AND THEY SAID THEY COULD HEAR THE SOUND ON ONE OF THESE WEEKEND NIGHTS WHEN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FACEBOOK GROUP REPORTS ON THINGS LIKE THAT. IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE LOUD MUSIC. THAT IS ANNOYING BUT THERE ARE MUCH -- OTHER THINGS THAT ARE MUCH MORE THAN ANNOYING. THERE ARE ONGOING SAFETY ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT ALREADY, THE PUBLIC DEFECATION AND URINATION IN FULL VIEW OF RESIDENTS BACKYARDS. INCLUDING RESIDENTS WHO HAVE GRANDKIDS OVER. SO IT'S REALLY NICE FOR THEM TO SEE. LOTS OF DRINKING OF ALCOHOL AND PUBLIC INTOXICATION. YOU CAN HEAR THE PARTIERS ARE OBVIOUSLY INTOXICATED. WE HAVE TRASH THAT INCLUDES GLASS BOTTLES, WE HAVE BRIGHT LIGHTS FROM THE HEADLIGHTS AND SPOTLIGHTS AND PEOPLE COMING ONTO THE SUBLEASE TAKE AREAS, INTO THE RESIDENTS BOATHOUSES. SWIMMING ON THE LAKE, INCLUDING LITTLE CHILDREN THAT ARE NOT SUPERVISED. FIRES INCLUDING ILLEGAL CAMPFIRES THAT ARE NOT IN A GRILL. YOU WILL SEE PICTURES OF THE AFTERMATH OF THAT IN A LITTLE BIT. FIREWORKS DURING HOLIDAYS AND OTHER TIMES AS WELL AND THEN HARASSMENT AND THREATS DIRECTED AT THE BOATERS.

ANOTHER CONCERN IS THE EGRESS FRO AND TO MILLER ROAD WHICH IS A POTENTIAL HAZARD TO MOTORISTS AND ONE PERSON REPORTED THAT IN TRYING TO COME OUT ONTO MILLER ROAD SOMEONE WAS TRYING TO COME OUT OF THE CAMP MILLER AREA AND ALMOST CAUSED A COLLISION. SO THAT IS A PROBLEM AS WELL. OVERNIGHT CAMPING, HERE ARE SOME PICTURES OF SOME OF THE. ONE OF THE FIRES THE GUY WASHING AND DRYING HIS CLOTHES, AND WE HAD SOMEBODY OUT THERE ACTUALLY CUTTING DOWN SOME OF THE TREES.

AND THEY HAVE BUILT SOME SORT OF MAKESHIFT BENCHES OUT OF PARTS OF TREES. THIS IS JUST MORE OF THE PROOF THAT THE PEOPLE THERE, NOT ALL THE PEOPLE THERE, BUT THE PROBLEM PEOPLE THERE, THEY SEEM TO FEEL THAT THEY OWN THIS PLACE AND IT'S LIKE A NO MAN'S LAND. IT IS A PLACE WHERE THERE ARE NO REGULATION LIKE THERE ARE OVER AT THE PARK. AND WE WILL SEE LOTS OF PEOPLE AT CAMP MILLER ON A PARTICULAR DAY AND THE PARK WILL BE EMPTY BECAUSE IN THE PARK THERE ARE PARK RULES POSTED AND THAT THERE ARE POLICE PATROLLING THE PARK REGULARLY. WHY WOULD THEY, ESPECIALLY IF THEY WANT TO ENGAGE IN ILLICIT ACTIVITIES, WHY WOULD THEY GO TO THE PARK WHEN THEY CAN COME HERE INSTEAD? THIS IS HOW CLOSE WHAT WE CALL THE CAMP MILLER BEACH IS TO PRIVATE PROPERTY. THIS IS A PRIVATE DOCK BEHIND ONE OF THE HOMES, THE FIRST HOME ON THE STREET. AND IT IS ONLY ABOUT 65 FEET FROM THE DOCK TO THAT BEACH. AND HERE IS A CAMPING TENT THAT WAS IN THE AREA BY THOSE TREES, THAT CLOSE TO THAT HOME. SO WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT WHEN YOU SEE ILLEGAL ACTIVITY, JUST CALL THE POLICE.

OF COURSE THAT IS WHAT YOU SHOULD DO WHEN YOU SEE ILLEGAL ACTIVITY. BUT THEN AFTER RESIDENTS HAVE DONE THAT, WE HAVE ALSO BEEN TOLD, WELL, WE REALLY DON'T RECEIVE THAT MANY CALLS. EVEN WHEN IT IS A SPECIFIC TIME AND DATE OFTENTIMES, SOMEHOW THOSE CALLS OR INCIDENTS ARE NOT GETTING RECORDED, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT IS. ONE PROBLEM IS PROBABLY THE DIFFICULTY OF IDENTIFYING THE LOCATION. WE CALL THIS AREA CAMP MILLER AND INTERNALLY IT IS CALLED MUDDY CREEK AREA. WE HAVE EXPERIENCED, EVERY ONE OF US THAT HAS CALLED AND HAS EXPERIENCED TALKING TO DISPATCH AT LEAST ONCE AND WATCHING AS THE FIRE TRUCK OR POLICE CAR PASSED BY THE CAMP MILLER AREA AND WENT TO LAKESIDE PARK SOUTH. WE NEED AN ADDRESS THERE. WE NEED A GOOD

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IDENTIFIER SO THAT THE PUBLIC SAFETY PEOPLE KNOW WHERE THIS ACTUALLY IS. IT IS NOT WORKING WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW. AND ALSO , AS SOMEONE ELSE MENTIONED, THE POLICE HAVE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO THEN TO PATROL THIS AREA. THEY CAN'T BE THERE CONSTANTLY AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY EXPECTS THAT. BY THE TIME THEY GET THERE WHEN WE CALL, BECAUSE THEY ARE USUALLY OUT ON CALLS TO MORE IMPORTANT THINGS, BY THE TIME THEY GET THERE THE ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES OFTEN HAVE CEASED SO THERE IS NOTHING THEY CAN REALLY DO ABOUT IT. IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT BUT WE NEED SOME SORT OF SOLUTION. EVEN IF WE HAD SIGNS PROHIBITING ALCOHOL. WE DO HAVE ONE CUTE SIGN, BUT IT DOESN'T SPECIFY ALL THE PARK RULES WE HAVE POSTED. A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE JUST GIVEN UP ON CALLING. BECAUSE OF WHAT WE JUST SAID, THEY CALL AND THEY EITHER DON'T GET TO THE RIGHT PLACE OR THEY DO GET TO THE RIGHT PLACE AND IT IS ALL OVER BY THEN. SO WHY BOTHER TO CALL. AND FINALLY THE FEAR FACTOR, THE FEAR OF RETALIATION AS MICHELLE RECOUNTED TO YOU. WE HAVE HAD REAL SOCIAL MEDIA THREATS AND THAT COUPLED WITH THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD GUNFIRE FROM THE AREA ON MANY OCCASIONS KIND OF MAKES PEOPLE RELUCTANT TO MAKE THEMSELVES A TARGET. SPEAKING OF THOSE SOCIAL MEDIA THREATS, HERE ARE SOME OF THE SCREENSHOTS FROM THAT GROUP THAT WAS MENTIONED .

I REDACTED THE NAMES BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO ALL THAT. THIS IS SOME OF THE THINGS THEY SAID, THEY ARE TALKING HERE ABOUT A CABLE BRAID THAT WILL GET INTO THE PROPELLERS OF THE BOATS AND MESSED THAT UP. SOMEONE SAID IT WOULD BE MESSED UP IF THE BOAT ENDS UP MISSING. YOU CAN USE WEIGHTS, THEY WERE GREAT. ANYBODY WHO SHOOTS GUNS KNOWS THAT PEW, PEW MEANS SHOOTING A GUN. THAT IS CERTAINLY AN IMPLIED THREAT. AND MORE THERE. I'D HAVE SOMETHING VERY SPECIAL FOR HIM, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT WAS MEANT AS A THREAT, IN THE CONTEXT OF ALL OF THIS IT IS OBVIOUS IT WAS MEANT AS A THREAT. THIS IS, AT THE TOP YOU CAN SEE THE GUNFIRE AND THE LITTLE FLASHING LIGHT. UNFORTUNATELY THE CAMERA THAT TOOK THIS ON A NEIGHBOR STOCK DOES NOT HAVE AUDIO RECORDING CAPABILITY. YOU CAN ONLY SEE , BUT WE WERE THERE AND WE KNOW THAT THERE WAS AUDIO. IT IS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT. IT HAPPENS FAIRLY FREQUENTLY. 1 TO 2 TIMES A MONTH, BASICALLY, ON AVERAGE. WE'VE DONE ALL THAT AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE AESTHETIC IMPACT OF THIS AREA. THESE PICTURES WERE TAKEN EARLIER THIS MONTH. IT SHOWS SOME OF THE TRASH. THEY BROUGHT THEIR OWN GRILL AND THEN THEY LEFT IT THERE. THE PARK RULES, OUR PARK RULES IN THE ORDINANCE SAY NO COOKING FIRES EXCEPT IN GRILLS PROVIDED BY THE CITY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS PICTURE DOWN HERE IS, WHETHER IT IS A SHRINE, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT IS ABOUT BUT THAT WAS LEFT THERE FOR THE MORNING AFTER.

AND HERE WERE CLOSE-UP PICTURES TAKEN THIS LAST SUNDAY. WE WALKED DOWN THERE AND WE SAW ALL THIS TRASH. THERE IS A TAMPON APPLICATOR THEY ARE, THERE ARE THINGS THAT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY ARE, THERE ARE LOTS AND LOTS OF BEER BOTTLE CAPS. GLASS BOTTLES, FOOD, DEBRIS, PACKAGING. THERE IS A SHOTGUN SHELL OVER HERE. IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THIS AREA IS BEING USED AS A FREE-FOR-ALL ZONE. AND WE DO HAVE THIS SIGN THAT SAYS PLEASE ENJOY THIS OPEN SPACE AND HELP US KEEP IT

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CLEAN. THAT'S NOT WORKING VERY WELL. WE NEED SOMETHING MORE EFFECTIVE THAN THAT. HERE IS A FEW MORE. THE CAMP FIRE THAT IS DEFINITELY NOT IN A GRILL HAS BURNT THE TREE THERE AND WILL PROBABLY CAUSE THE TREE TO DIE AND FALL OVER. AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST SHOWING THE PROXIMITY HERE, SO WHAT IS THE SOLUTION? YOU HEARD SOME PEOPLE ASK TO SHUT IT DOWN AND WE ASK THAT BACK IN MARCH. THE COUNCIL MAJORITY SAID NO. APPARENTLY THAT SOLUTION IS OFF THE TABLE. ANOTHER OPTION IS TO DO NOTHING, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE MARCH. ALLOW IT TO KEEP BEING AN ANYTHING GOES ZONE AND WATCH IT GET PROGRESSIVELY WORSE. A VERY POPULAR CONCEPT IN LAW ENFORCEMENT IS THE BROKEN WINDOWS THEORY. THAT WHEN SMALL CRIMES AND DISORDER ARE AND TOLERATED IT ENCOURAGES MORE OF THE SAME AND IT GROWS, IT PROGRESSES AND IT GETS WORSE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING HAPPEN OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS AND EVEN MORE SINCE MARCH. THE COUNCIL, ALTHOUGH THEY DID NOT WANT TO SHUT IT DOWN, AGREED BACK IN MARCH THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE. SO, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? ANOTHER OPTION, THE LAST OPTION, IS TO DEVISE SOME SORT OF A WIN-WIN PLAN, INVEST SOME MONEY IN THIS AND COME UP WITH SOME MITIGATIONS THAT WILL TURN THIS EYESORE AND CRIME HAVEN INTO AN ASSET FOR OUR CITY. WE HAVE TO BALANCE THE DESIRE FOR THE PUBLIC LAKE ACCESS WITH THE RIGHTS OF THE RESIDENTS TO FEEL SAFE AND ENJOY THEIR OWN PRIVATE PROPERTY. I THINK WE CAN BRING ORDER OUT OF CHAOS IF WE GET SOME POLICIES, REGULATIONS, GOVERNANCE AND ENFORCEMENT IN THIS AREA. WE COULD CREATE A BEAUTIFUL, FAMILY-FRIENDLY FISHING PLACE THAT WILL TAKE IT BACK TO THE WAY IT USED TO BE WHEN WE HAD PEOPLE THERE THAT DID NOT BOTHER ANYBODY BECAUSE IT WAS NOT A PARTY COVE, IT WAS A FISHING PLACE. AND THIS IS SOMETHING ELSE I DISCUSSED WITH THE CITY MANAGER THAT I WON'T DISCUSS HERE. ALTERNATIVE POTENTIAL FISHING AREAS THAT JIM BROUGHT UP. THOSE ARE JUST SOME PICTURES AT THE OTHER AREA AT THE PARK. BUT HERE IS A CONCEPT PLAN. FOR HOLIDAY OR HABITAT/FISHING AREA AT THE MILLER ROAD BRIDGE, AND IF THIS IS IN FACT ALREADY A PARK THEN WE ARE ALREADY HAVING THE FIRST STEPS TAKEN CARE OF WHICH WE WERE GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO TODAY. WHICH WAS TO DESIGNATE IT AS A PARK AND MAKE IT A BEAUTIFUL AND FUNCTIONAL AREA.

YOU CAN SEE, OR MAYBE YOU CAN'T, MY HUSBAND CAME UP WITH THIS DIAGRAM THAT INCLUDES DESIGNATED PARKING SPACES ON THE EAST END OF THE AREA AND A FISHING PLACE DOWN THERE. IT INCLUDES A FENCE LIKE WE HAVE AT LAKESIDE PARK, TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM WALKING ON THOSE ROCKS. WE'VE SEEN ADULTS, WE'VE SEEN CHILDREN WALKING ON THESE ROCKS, FALLING ON THESE ROCKS, POTENTIALLY HURTING THEMSELVES ON THESE ROCKS. AND THE ROCKS ARE A GOOD THING. IT PREVENTS OR SLOWS DOWN EROSION AND IT KEEPS PEOPLE FROM HAVING THE BEACH TO ENTER THE WATER AND SWIM ILLEGALLY. SO THE ROCKS ARE GOOD BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE A BARRIER TO PROTECT PEOPLE, AND ESPECIALLY CHILDREN FROM THAT ROCK AREA. WHAT WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE IS FOR THE BEACH TO BE WRAPPED AS WELL SO THAT WE HAVE THE SAME THING THERE. AND DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM BEING DOWN THERE AND TRASHING IT AND LEAVING GRASS BOTTLES OR BURNING THE TREES.

AND WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HAVE AS A BARRIER BETWEEN THIS AREA AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE CAN'T PUT THE FENCE THERE APPARENTLY BUT WE COULD PUT A POLLINATOR GARDEN. IT IS A BEE CITY AND WE

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ARE REALLY PROUD OF THAT. WHY NOT PUT IN A HABITAT FOR THE BEES AND BUTTERFLIES AND BIRDS AND BRING BACK SOME OF THAT WILDLIFE SANCTUARY AMBIENCE THAT WE USED TO HAVE BACK THERE WHEN WE HAD THE EGRET NESTING AREA. THIS WOULD DIVIDE THE AREA ON THE WEST SIDE WHICH WOULD BE AN EGRESS TO THE FISHING AREA AND THE POLLINATING GARDEN AND LANDSCAPING TO MAKE IT BEAUTIFUL INSTEAD OF MAKING IT BE AN EYESORE. IT WOULD ENHANCE THE AMBIENCE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE NEIGHBORS WOULD BE PROUD TO LOOK OUT AND HAVE PEOPLE OVER IN YOUR BACKYARD AND FOR THEM TO SEE THIS BEAUTIFUL POLLINATOR GARDEN AND THESE NICE FISHERS DOWN AT THE END. AND THESE PARKING SPACES ARE ALLOCATED .

YOU WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO ANGLE THEM INSTEAD OF HAVING IT STRAIGHT IN LIKE IT SHOWS. WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE TO HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM WE HAVE WITH HEADLIGHTS SHINING INTO THEIR HOME AND THEIR WINDOWS. BUT THOSE ARE DETAILS THAT CAN BE WORKED OUT. THIS IS A BASIC CONCEPT OF A WAY TO TURN THIS AROUND AND MAKE THIS AN ASSET. IT WILL LOWER THE RISK TO CHILDREN AND ADULTS OF INJURY ON THE ROCKS, DROWNING IN THE LAKE, REDUCE THE RISK TO HOMEOWNERS OF FIRES, THEFTS AND PROPERTY DAMAGE. BECAUSE THE FISHERS WOULD BE DOWN ON THIS END. THEY WOULD NOT BE RIGHT UP BY THE HOMEOWNERS HOMES. THAT IS OUR VISION FOR THE MILLER ROAD BRIDGE TO TURN IT FROM AN EYESORE INTO AN ASSET AND FROM A CRIME HAVEN INTO A FAMILY-FRIENDLY AREA. HOW DO WE GET FROM THAT TO THIS, THAT IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER AND BOTH DEVELOP POLICIES AND ALLOCATE FUNDING TO DO THIS. SO WHAT IS THE ASK, FUNDING. EVERYTHING COSTS MONEY. BUT RELATIVELY SPEAKING THIS IS NOT A SUPEREXPENSIVE THING. WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR PARK EQUIPMENT AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF. WE ARE ASKING FOR SOME LANDSCAPING AND SOME STRIPING FOR PARKING PLACES IN A LITTLE BIT OF FENCING. IT IS NOT A HUGE EXPENSE. THE RETURNING REPUTATIONAL EQUITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE FOR CITIZENS WOULD MORE THAN WEREN'T THAT EXPENSE. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MONEY WOULD BE SPENT ON AND WE ARE ALSO LOOKING FOR ENFORCEMENT OF THE RULES. INCLUDING THE OVERNIGHT CLOSING WHICH IS ONE OF OUR PARK RULES. THAT WOULD SOLVE A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS IF WE WEREN'T HEARING LOUD MUSIC AT MIDNIGHT, THAT WOULD HELP A LOT. THAT IS WHEN MOST OF THIS TAKES PLACE. THAT IS WHEN THE GUNFIRE TAKES PLACE AND THE MAJORITY OF THE PROBLEMS TAKE PLACE. JUST ENFORCE THE RULES AND THE STATE LAWS THAT CONTAIN OVERNIGHT CAMPING AND PUBLIC INTOXICATION AND UNREASONABLE NOISE AND LIGHT POLLUTION AND SO FORTH. THE OTHER THING WE NEED IS AN ADDRESS OR NAME FOR THE AREA THAT CLEARLY DEFINES THAT LOCATION FOR PUBLIC SAFETY CALLS. AND PROTOCOLS TO MINIMIZE THE DANGER OF RETALIATION. EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER SAID SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE, SO LET'S DO SOMETHING. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT COMPREHENSIVE REPORT.

>> IT WAS MORE COMPREHENSIVE BEFORE I TOOK THOSE SLIDES OUT.

>> ALL RIGHT. SIR, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING?

>> WHEN DID WE FIND OUT OR WHEN WAS THIS DESIGNATED AS A PARK?

>> THE CITY MANAGER WOULD NEED TO ADDRESS THAT.

>> IT DID NOT COME UP IN MARCH.

>> LIKE EVERYONE HERE, I'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY SINCE JUNE OF LAST YEAR AND I WOULD CHALLENGE ANYONE WHO THOUGHT THAT WAS A PARK. NOT A PERSON IN THE PARK STAFF OR ANYONE ON THIS DAIS OR EYE. WE OPERATED FROM THAT I MISS BECAUSE THAT IS HOW WE'VE BEEN OPERATING, THAT THAT SPACE WAS NOT A PARK.

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WHY WOULD I HAVE HAD ANY EVIDENCE PERSONALLY AS THE CITY MANAGER TO CHALLENGE THAT ASSUMPTION? I HAD NONE. DO SO WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THAT UNDERSTANDING UPON WHICH WE'VE OPERATED FOREVER, WE SOUGHT TO SAY WHAT COULD WE DO WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THAT UNDERSTANDING? FAST FORWARD TO YOU PLACING THIS ITEM BACK ON THE AGENDA, COMING FORWARD, AND IT IS YOUR ITEM NOW. I SAID THAT IN MARCH THIS WAS NOT OPERATIONALLY IMPERATIVE. BEFORE ANYONE MISCONSTRUES THAT, IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THESE ISSUES ARE UNIMPORTANT OR THAT THE POLICE ARE DRIVING PAST, OBSERVING AND NOT TAKING ACTION. IT MEANS WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE BUDGET AND THESE OTHER THINGS LIKE THE $75 MILLION IN CIP, THE PRIORITIZATION HAS NOT BEEN ESTABLISHED BY MY BOSS THAT THIS ROSE TO THE TOP. BUT IT DID BECOME POLITICALLY IMPERATIVE AND THUS I TRY TO BRING FORWARD A CONVERSATION TO SAY WHAT IS IT THAT WE CAN DO WITHIN THE CONFINES OF AT LEAST IN OUR ERRONEOUS UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WAS NOT A PARK. WE LOOKED AT SOLUTIONS AND TALKED TO THE COUNCIL AND GOT THAT FEEDBACK. AT THE TIME MAYOR PRO TEM SHINDER PLACED THE STOCK ON THE AGENDA. TO HER CREDIT, SHE PREPARED THIS ITEM, SO HERE COMING FORWARD THIS WEEKEND I WANTED TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL RESEARCH. I JUST THOUGHT, WELL, OBVIOUSLY I WANT TO BE PREPARED TO ENGAGE IN THE CONVERSATION.

WE TALKED WITH THE CHIEF AND MADE SURE HE HAD SPECIFIC STATISTICS. SO I BEGAN TO LOOK AT OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES AGAIN. FIRST I REVIEWED THE ILA WHICH I HAVE REVIEWED NUMEROUS TIMES AND IT IS VERY CLEAR, AND THAT IS WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN MARCH. IT SAYS A PARK IS WHATEVER THE CITY DESIGNATES AS A PARK AND THERE IS NOT ANY INDICATION IN THE RECORD OF OUR OPERATIONS THAT THE CITY HAS DESIGNATED THAT AS A PARK. TO THE POINT THAT WAS MADE NUMEROUS TIMES, THERE IS NO SIGNAGE OR ANYTHING. ONE OF THE POINTS I MADE IN MARCH IS THAT IT ALMOST FEELS MISLEADING IF WE DON'T CALL IT A PARK OR DESIGNATE IT AS A PARK. WE HAVE OPERATED AS IF IT IS A PARK.

FAST FORWARD TO THIS WEEKEND AND AS I WAS REVIEWING THE REGULATIONS THAT ONE WOULD NATURALLY GO TO, PARKS AND RECREATION, TALKS ABOUT GREENBELT A LITTLE BIT, SO IT SPEAKS TO IT BUT DOES NOT DESIGNATE IT AS A PARK.

HOWEVER, IF YOU GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN INTO A COMPLETELY SEPARATE CHAPTER, CHAPTER 66, MORE SPECIFICALLY, THAT'S RIGHT, 241, WHICH IS BY THE WAY, TRAFFIC AND VEHICLES. IF YOU GO THERE THERE IS A STATEMENT OF PARTICULAR CLARITY THAT TALKS ABOUT THE FACT , IT SAYS THAT WITHIN THE LIMITS, LYING ADJACENT TO THE WATER LINE OF LAKE HUBBARD WHICH IS UNDER LEASE FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS TO ROWLETT, WHICH AREA HAS BEEN DESIGNATED AS PART OF THE CITY PUBLIC PARK SYSTEM.

THIS HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS SINCE 1982. OKAY? I'M GLAD TO ADDRESS THIS THAT THIS WASN'T SOME LAST-MINUTE BOMB TO SABOTAGE THE DEPUTY MAYORS PRESENTATION BUT IN FACT TRY TO FIND A WAY TO SUPPORT THE CONTEXT AND ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES WE HAVE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION. THIS IS COMING BACK FOR A REALLY ROBUST CONVERSATION THAT I WAS PREPARED AND SO I DISCOVERED THIS. I DON'T PRACTICE LAW, I AM THE CITY MANAGER, SO I WAITED UNTIL TODAY WHEN I COULD SPEAK TO THE CHIEF AND CITY ATTORNEY. THIS READING THAT APPEAR TO BE SO STARKLY EXPLICIT AND CLEAR THAT HAS BEEN HERE SINCE 1982, WAS I READING WHEN I THOUGHT I WAS READING IN HER OPINION TO ME, NOT TO PUT WORDS IN HER MOUTH, WAS YES. NOT ONLY IS THE AREA THAT YOU COLLOQUIALLY CALLED CAMP MILLER, BUT EVERY SINGLE PARCEL AND SQUARE INCH OF THAT ENTIRE GREENBELT SHORT OF THAT AREA THAT WAS FORMERLY THE PARK

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BELONGING TO THE CITY OF DALLAS, WITH THE EXCLUSION OF THAT, EVERY OTHER SQUARE INCH OF THAT TAKE AREA IS GREENBELT PARK. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THOSE PARCELS THAT ARE SUBLEASED. THAT IS HOW WE ARRIVED HERE TODAY.

>> LET ME FOLLOW UP WITH THAT. DO WE HAVE IT WITHIN OUR POWER TO SAY THAT IF IT IS A PARK, IT IS A POORLY RUN PARK AND FOR THE SAFETY OF CITIZENS CAN WE CLOSE THAT UNTIL IT COMES UNDER THE STANDARDS OF OUR PARKS AND REC?

>> FOLKS, FOLKS. I HATE TO BE THE BAD GUY BUT WE CAN HAVE ANY

MORE OUTBURSTS. >> THIS IS YOUR POLICY DISCUSSION. I AM HERE NOT TO ADVOCATE FOR ANYTHING I DON'T BELIEVE ADMINISTRATIVELY IS WITHIN MY PURVIEW. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I IMAGINE YOU COULD. RIGHT NOW YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THE BOOKS THAT WOULD ALLOW THAT. I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DESIGNATE THAT YOU'VE GIVEN TO ME AND ORDINANCE FORM, NO FISHING, NO CAMPING AND A HOST OF OTHER THINGS BUT I WILL NOT DO THAT UNLESS YOU TELL ME TO. IT IS NOT FOR ME TO INTERJECT MYSELF INTO A POLICY POSITION. COULD YOU CLOSE IT? YOU COULD IF YOU PASS SOMETHING. THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE STANDARD OF A PARK BECAUSE YOU HAVE SEVERAL UNDEVELOPED DESIGNATED PARKS. IN EVERY POINT IN TIME THERE WILL BE TRASH IN EVERY PARK AND WE HATE THAT, BUT THE CREWS WILL BE OUT CLEANING. IF YOU WANT TO SNAP A PICTURE, YOU CAN DO THAT, CAN WE DO A BETTER JOB MAINTAINING THIS AND OTHER PARK PROPERTIES, YES. TO ENHANCE IT OR NOT, THAT IS REALLY THE QUESTION BEFORE YOU. SO IF YOU GIVE ME DIRECTION TO ENHANCE

THIS AREA -- >> TIME IS UP.

>> THAT IS THE SHORT ANSWER. IF YOU TELL ME TO GO TO THIS --

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. I WILL FREELY ADMIT THAT I WAS ONE OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS PREVIOUSLY WHERE I WAS NOT AT THE POINT WHERE I WANTED TO SHUT THAT DOWN. BUT IT WILL APPEAR, AND I CANNOT BASE THIS ON ANY FACTS, IT WILL APPEAR THAT THE BAD ACTORS ARE NOW OUTWEIGHING THE HONEST FISHERMEN THAT WANT TO GO OUT THERE AND HAVE A GOOD TIME WITH THEIR KIDS.

>> WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT PERMANENTLY SHUTTING IT DOWN.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SHUTTING IT DOWN TO IMPROVE IT.

>> I'M TALKING ABOUT SHUTTING IT DOWN FOR SAFETY REASONS RIGHT NOW UNTIL SUCH TIME WHEN WE CAN BRING IT UP TO THE STANDARDS THAT OUR PARKS AND WRECKS DESERVED.

>> LET ME ADDRESS THAT AND IT IS NOT A REBUTTAL. I AM NOT ARGUING A POSITION. I HAVE TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL MISCONSTRUE BUT I HAVE TO MAKE SURE I PROPERLY REPRESENT OUR ACTIONS. I HAVE TALKED EXTENSIVELY WITH THE POLICE CHIEF ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON OUT THERE, WHAT IS HAPPENING AND WHAT CAN WE DO. IN RECOGNITION OF THE REALIZATION THAT IT IS LEGITIMATELY A PARK, WE CAN POST HOURS, WE WILL DO THOSE THINGS THAT GIVES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT A LITTLE MORE LEVERAGE WITH RESPECT TO PC AFTER HOURS AND THOSE THINGS.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU ARE SATISFIED WITH THE ACTIVITIES THERE BUT IF YOU KNEW THE STATISTICS IN TERMS OF THE PROACTIVE POLICE PATROLS AND THE STOPS THEY MAKE, I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO THINK THEY ARE DRIVING PAST, SEEING THESE ACTIONS, JUST GOING FORWARD AND NOT STOPPING TO DO ANYTHING.

NOT THAT YOU ARE IMPLYING THAT. I JUST THINK IT IS IMPORTANT

THAT I AM CLEAR ON THAT FACT. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY REAL QUICK, I THINK MOST PEOPLE HERE ARE MORE REASONABLE THAN JUST WANTING TO CLOSE IT DOWN AS THE FIRST OPTION INSTEAD OF TRYING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES DIRECTLY, INSTEAD OF THAT NUCLEAR OPTION FIRST. I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION THAT REALLY CAPTURES SOME OF THE WAYS WE CAN ADDRESS THESE ISSUES DIRECTLY AT THIS PARK. IN FACT, I WROTE A LIST THAT SOME OF IT IS PARALLEL TO THE IDEAS THAT YOU'VE COME TO US WITH. AS WE RECENTLY DISCOVERED, FROM OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES, THE SUBJECT

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AREA IS IN FACT A PARK THEREFORE THE ROWLETT POLICE WILL BEGIN ENFORCING THE CITY PARK ORDINANCES. WHICH MEANS THERE ARE NOW PARK HOURS THAT PD CAN ENFORCE. SIGNS WILL BE INSTALLED WITH PARK RULES IN ENGLISH AND HOPEFULLY ALSO IN SPANISH. PLACEMENT OF POTENTIALLY PLACING A PORT-A-POTTY THERE'S A PEOPLE HAVE A PLACE TO USE THE RESTROOM. ALSO HAVING PARK STAFF DO A MORE COMPREHENSIVE AND PROACTIVE CLEANING OF THE PARK LIKE THEY WOULD AT ANY OTHER PARK ON A NORMAL SCHEDULE. ADDITIONALLY, WORK TO ASSIGN AND ADDRESS AND NAME THE PARK AREA SOMETHING LIKE MILLER PARK , NAME IT SOMETHING THAT WAY SO THAT THERE IS AN EASY WAY TO IDENTIFY IT. SO THAT IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS IT IS NOT A QUESTION OF WHERE IS IT. ALSO UPDATE THE CITY PARKS MAP SO IT IS OFFICIAL THAT THIS IS A PARK. CONSIDER HAVING PUBLIC WORKS CONDUCT AND ASPHALT OVERLAY PROJECT AT THE PARK ONCE THE MILLER ROAD REHABILITATION IS COMPLETE.

OBVIOUSLY OUR PUBLIC WORKS WILL HAVE TO STAGE CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT AT THIS PARK. CONSIDER FUTURE FUNDING FOR SOLAR STREETLIGHTS FOR THE PARKING LOT. CONSIDER ALLOCATING FUTURE FUNDING TO INSTALL A CAMERA AT THE PARK. I KNOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT FOR PADDLE POINT. THERE HAS BEEN FUNDING ALLOCATED TO INSTALL A PTC CAMERA AT PADDLE POINT AND I'D LIKE TO DO THAT HERE AS WELL. NEVER ROWLETT POLICE RECEIVED THEIR CAMERA OWERS, SEEING IF WE CAN PD PLACE THE CAMERA TOWER HERE ON A ROTATING SCHEDULE EVER SO OFTEN IN ORDER TO TRY TO PREVENT ANY ILLEGAL ACTIVITY FROM HAPPENING AND I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY THE MOST REASONABLE APPROACH WE CAN TAKE FIRST RATHER THAN CLOSING THE PARK DOWN. I AM CURIOUS TO HEAR OTHER THOUGHTS FROM COLLEAGUES.

>> IF I CAN JUMP IN. THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR COMING UP. I KNOW THIS IS A REALLY INTENSE ISSUE AND I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND IT.

AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION. WHEN THIS FIRST CAME UP I WAS PROBABLY THE MOST VOCAL ONE IN OPPOSITION BECAUSE OF ACCESS TO THE LAKE AND I THINK YOU ALL KNOW MY REASONING ON THAT. HOWEVER, AS DEPUTY MAYOR OF HAS SAID, SOMETHING DOES HAVE TO BE DONE. AND EVERYBODY BEING HERE BUT THIS PRESENTATION HAS ABSOLUTELY HIGHLIGHTED THAT. MAYBE EVEN A LITTLE MORE THAN I WAS AWARE. THAT ASIDE, A COUPLE OF THINGS HAVE COME TO MIND. NUMBER ONE, IT SEEMS TO BE FROM THE RESIDENTS, IT SEEMS TO BE THAT THE MAJOR PROBLEMS ARE IN THE EVENING. IT IS AFTER 10:00 OR 11:00. IT IS NOT THE DAY-TO-DAY PROBLEM. IT BEING A PARK IS ABSOLUTELY A GAME CHANGER. THAT COMPLETELY REFRAMES THE ENTIRE ARGUMENT FOR ME. BEFORE IT WAS SORT OF THIS NO MAN'S LAND. IT WAS JUST A VERY COMPLICATED ISSUE. IT IS NOT COMPLICATED ANY MORE. IT IS A CITY PARK AND WE HAVE TO TAKE CONTROL OF IT. WE HAVE TO INSTALL RULES AND PROCEDURES. AND MAKE SURE THAT NOT ONLY THE RESIDENTS LIVING CLOSE BY KNOW THAT THIS IS AN ASSET AND NOT AN EYESORE OR A DEFICIENCY TO THE CITY. WE HAVE HEARD A LOT OF THINGS ALREADY SAID. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT COME TO MIND. ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I THINK WE ARE ALL AWARE OF, AS THE HOMEOWNERS, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WANT SOMETHING DONE NOW. THE WHOLE THING ABOUT FUNDING THIS, I THINK IS IS A GREAT IDEA BUT LET'S BE HONEST, IT WILL NOT HAPPEN TOMORROW OR IN SIX MONTHS, BUT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THAT INTERIM AND THAT IS WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH AN INTERIM PLAN, MAYBE WITH THE IDEA THAT THIS IS THE GOAL. IF YOU WANT A NAME I AM STILL OFFERING CATFISH COVE. AND OBVIOUSLY THE CURFEW IS THE BIG

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REGULATORY HAMMER WE HAVE. I WAS DEAD SET AGAINST PUTTING UP A FENCE AND SHUTTING IT OFF. HOWEVER, IN SPRINGFIELD PARK WHERE THEY HAVE THE RC GROUP, THEY HAVE ONE OF THESE PIPE TYPE FENCES, YOU CAN CLOSE THEM. IT WILL REQUIRE SOME CITY PERSONNEL TO GO OUT THERE AT 11:00 OR WHATEVER TIME WE DECIDE, TO PHYSICALLY SHUT IT OFF. THAT WOULD BE A RELATIVELY EASY, SHORT-TERM THING WE CAN DO. AS WE START MOVING TOWARDS SORT OF RECLAIMING -- RECLAIMING AND PUTTING THE PARK BACK UNDER CONTROL. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL

HAVE DONE. THANK YOU. >> IT IS NOT REALLY NECESSARILY TO ADDRESS YOUR SPECIFIC COMMENTS, MAYOR, YOU GAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS, AND YOU MAY ALL HAVE SOME, KEEPING IN MIND, I CAN'T TAKE ANY OF THEM NECESSARILY BUT I WILL TRY MY BEST TO TAKE AS MANY AS I CAN. THE ONE THING THAT HAS BEEN SAID IS THE RECOGNITION AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS A PARK, IT REALLY DOES CHANGE THE DYNAMIC OF HOW WE VIEW IT AND HOW WE WILL OPERATE TO READ IT WAS KIND OF A NO MAN'S LAND.

WE WERE NOT SURE IF WE WERE EXPENDING CITY RESOURCES ON SOMETHING THAT WASN'T OF VALUE TO THE CITY IN A LEGITIMATE WAY. THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE TELLING ME, PUTTING UP THE GATES, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE WILL START TO INVESTIGATE. SO SOME OF THESE THINGS WE CAN BRING TO FRUITION. I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK I WILL IGNORE WHAT YOU WERE SAYING. THERE IS ALSO ONE OTHER THING THAT I'D ASK YOU TO GIVE ME SOME FEEDBACK ON MORE SPECIFICALLY AND EXPLICITLY. IN ONE OF THE SLIDES, THE DEPUTY MAYOR TALKED ABOUT A POLLINATOR GARDEN. BUT THERE IS ANOTHER OPTION, AND THAT IS TO TAKE IT BACK. THOSE ARE ALSO OPTIONS. MY JOB IS TO TALK ABOUT IT, THE VERY UNPOPULAR OPTIONS. AND BEFORE I START MOVING FORWARD, BECAUSE ONCE WE MOVE FORWARD WE WILL SPEND MONEY AND RESOURCES. I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THAT IS NOT THE DIRECTION WE WERE GOING

TO GO IN. >> DID YOU SAY BRING TRUCKS IN?

>> BEGAN TO RETURN IT TO ITS NATURAL VEGETATIVE STATE. THAT IS AN OPTION FOR US OPERATIONALLY, NO DIFFERENT THAN IT IS FOR US TO GO OUT AND PUT THE POLE GATES THERE. I JUST KIND OF WANT CLARITY BECAUSE ONE IS KIND OF A POINT OF NO RETURN. ONCE I START IMPROVING THIS PARK IT WILL BE A WASTE OF MONEY TO RESTORE IT TO ITS NATURAL VEGETATIVE STATE. SO FOR ME AS THE GUY WHO IS HERE TO TRY TO FOLLOW YOUR INSTRUCTIONS, I WANT CLARITY ON THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO

DO. >> THANK YOU FOR DOING THE HOMEWORK AND FINDING OUT THAT THIS IS A PARK SINCE 1982. THE GUIDING PRINCIPLE IS, DOES THIS MAKE ROWLETT BETTER. TO THE POINT YOU JUST BROUGHT UP, THAT IS A VALID QUESTION TO SAY, DO WE EVEN KEEP THIS AS A PARK OR TO BE CLOSE IT DOWN AND I AM OPEN TO THE CONVERSATION EITHER WAY. IF WE DO LEAVE IT AS A PARK, I AGREE THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE HARD AND FAST RULES ON WHEN THE PARK IS SHUT DOWN AND IMMEDIATELY PUT UP PIPE FENCING AND ENSURE THAT THAT IS ENFORCED. AND IF WE CAN ALSO ASK THE GAME WARDEN TO ENFORCE IN THAT AREA, CHECK FOR FISHING LICENSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I'M SURE THAT THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME FISHERMEN NOT USING LICENSES AND ARE JUST OUT THERE WILLY-NILLY BECAUSE THEY LOOK AT IT AS A PARTY PLACE.

THAT WOULD BE SOME ADDITIONAL REINFORCEMENT THAT WILL NOT TIE UP CITY RESOURCES. I HAD NO IDEA THAT SOME OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE NEARBY AREA WERE RECEIVING THREATS. FOR THAT, I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE IT IS OUR FAULT FOR NOT TAKING CARE OF THIS SOONER AND PROJECTING THAT ON Y'ALL TO HANDLE THAT. I'M SORRY YOU HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT. THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE.

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UNFORTUNATELY WE DO LIVE IN A SOCIETY AND WE LIVE ON A LAKE.

I LOVE TO PARTY RESPONSIVELY AND RESPECTFULLY AND I LIKE TO HAVE A GOOD TIME AND WATER DOES THAT. IT IS A CHALLENGING QUESTION OF KEEPING ACCESS TO THE LAKE BUT DOING IT IN A MANNER IN WHICH IT DOES NOT IMPINGE UPON THE SAFETY, SECURITY AND LIVELIHOOD OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BOUGHT HOMES AND LIVED HERE FOR A LONG TIME. I'M OPEN TO THE CONVERSATION OF SHUTTING IT DOWN AND RETURNING IT TO ITS VEGETATIVE STATE. THAT IS SOMETHING I'M WILLING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ON. IF WE CAN DIVERT AND GIVE PEOPLE, LIKE AT LAKE PARK SOUTH, IS THAT WHAT IT'S CALLED? LAKESIDE SOUTH. THANK YOU. IT IS ALREADY ENFORCEABLE AND HAS FISHING DOCKS.

REGARDLESS, I DO BELIEVE THAT IF WE KEEP THIS OPEN, WE SHOULD FUND IT AND MAKE IT TO WHERE IT DOES MAKE ROWLETT BETTER. WHERE WE HAVE FENCING, I LIKE THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM'S IDEA OF A FENCE AND ENHANCING THAT AREA SO IT IS BEAUTIFUL. AND IT IS A PLACE WHERE FAMILIES DO WANT TO BE AND IT COULD BE AN ASSET TO THE CITY. I AM 50-50. I COULD GO EITHER WAY ON HOW WE GO.

>> I HAVE ASKED FROM INPUT FROM OUR PARKS BOARD, DID WE GET

THAT? >> THIS REALLY ISN'T MY ITEM.

I AM JUST HERE TO SUPPORT IT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE SPOKEN TO THE PARKS BOARD ABOUT THEIR THOUGHTS. IF WE DID, WHY DON'T

YOU COME UP AND ADDRESS THAT. >> I'M GOING TO SIT DOWN.

>> WE DID TALK TO THE PARKS BOARD ABOUT IT AND THE FEEDBACK WE GOT WAS TO PRIMARILY TURN IT INTO A PARK. GIVEN THE INFORMATION UNCOVERED TODAY I THINK THAT WE HAVE CHECKED THAT

BOX. >> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

>> THESE ARE MY LAST WORDS. I'M OPEN TO WHATEVER WILL FIX THE PROBLEM. I KNOW WE NEED TO HAVE A SENSE OF URGENCY.

WHETHER WE CLOSE IT UP TO GET IT UP TO A STANDARD, WHATEVER WE DO, WE NEED TO HAVE A SENSE OF URGENCY BECAUSE GUNFIRE IS GOING TO KILL SOMEBODY. PEOPLE WHO ARE RECKLESS WITH GUNS AND DON'T HAVE ANY CONCEPT THAT WHEN THAT ROUND GOES UP, IT COMES DOWN OR GOES ACROSS AND IT WILL HIT SOMETHING. SO WHATEVER WE DO, JUST HAVE A SENSE OF URGENCY ABOUT WHAT WE

DO. >> ON THAT NOTE, I LIKE THE TIME BOX IDEA THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING. SO LET'S DO IT.

>> I THINK, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, EVERY INFRACTION YOU OBSERVED IN THE PARK IS EITHER ALREADY AGAINST CITY ORDINANCE OR PARK RULES, IS THAT CORRECT? WITH MAYBE THE EXCEPTION OF COMMERCIAL FISHING.

>> THAT IS AGAINST THE DALLAS ILA.

>> COMMERCIAL FISHING IS EVEN A VIOLATION. I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW HOW WE DETERMINE IF SOMEONE IS FISHING FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES OR NOT. ADMITTEDLY THAT IS PROBABLY AT THE LOW END OF THE SPECTRUM AS FAR AS ISSUES THAT YOU BROUGHT UP. WITH THAT BEING THE CASE AND THE FACT THAT ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE ILLEGAL, TO ME IT IS AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE. THE FACT OF THE MATTER BEING THAT IT IS A PARK WE ARE NOW IN THE POSITION OF ENFORCING THE RULES, LAWS AND ORDINANCES WE HAVE IN PLACE IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS A BETTER PLACE. MAKING IT AN ASSET TO ROWLETT INSTEAD OF A LIABILITY. TO ME, I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW WHAT THE STEPS FORWARD ARE OR WHAT FUNDING POSITION WE ARE IN TO SPRING A PARK UP OUT OF THE GROUND, SO TO SPEAK. AND IF THERE ARE SOME PHASES OR STEPS TO GET THERE, I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF HAVING TRUCKS GO OUT TOMORROW RETURNING IT TO ITS NATURAL VEGETATIVE STATE BUT I DO BELIEVE WE NEED TO FIND SOME MIDDLE GROUND OF SPENDING THE FARM AND SPENDING NOTHING SIMPLY BECAUSE IT WILL BE A PARK FOREVER. AT SOME POINT

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THERE WILL BE A BRIDGE GOING ACROSS THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO IMPROVE THIS SPACE IS PROBABLY NOT THE MOST FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE DECISION. THAT'S

MY FEEDBACK. >> I CAN THINK OF A FEW OF THOSE THINGS THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED RATHER QUICKLY DEPENDING ON WHAT THE CITY MANAGER SAYS TO READ YOU ALREADY INDICATED THAT PARK RULES SIGNAGE WILL BE A GUARANTEE UNLESS THE COUNCIL SAYS OTHERWISE. A PORT-A-POTTY TO GET PEOPLE NOT USING A BATHROOM -- THE BATHROOM IN A PUBLIC SPACE. MORE TRASH CLEANUP IF POSSIBLE. AND OF COURSE THE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM, WHICH NOW THAT WE KNOW WE CAN ENFORCE THOSE RULES.

>> CLEANING UP THE PARK, IT IS EASY AND IT IS A CHALLENGE ALL AT THE SAME TIME. KNOWING THAT THIS IS OUR PARKS, WE WILL GIVE IT MORE ATTENTION AND THERE IS THE REALITY. THE FENCING, I WILL NOT PROMISE THE FENCING AROUND THE BARRIERS YET. I THINK THAT IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF CONVERSATION. THIS IS A PHASED PROJECT. THIS IS TIME FOR US TO GET THE SIGNAGE UP AND CLEAN IT UP. AND THEN WE CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT ADDITIONAL INFRASTUCTURE THEY ARE GOING TO ADD. IF IT IS FENCING OF A CERTAIN TYPE OR CERTAIN PURPOSE. IF IT IS RENOVATING THE PARKING SPACE, SO I THINK THE FIRST THING IS EASY, IT IS FOR US TO SIT DOWN OPERATIONALLY AND GET A PATH FORWARD AND THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY. SO I CAN COME BACK TO YOU IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. HERE IS THE THING, ALSO ADDED TO THE SURPLUS SEVERAL MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN ONE-TIME FUNDING IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET. I CAN COME BACK TO YOU AND THIS WOULD PROBABLY TAKE SEVERAL HUNDRED OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, NOT SEVERAL MILLION.

WE CAN USE SOME OF THAT SURPLUS MONEY AND DEVELOP A PLAN THAT YOU CAN SIGN OFF ON IN TERMS OF THE DIRECTION OF THIS PARK. BUT GETTING IT UP TO A RESPECTABLE AND CLEAN SPACE IS FAIRLY EASY.

>> ONE COMMENT TO THE MANY SPEAKERS AND THOSE WHO DIDN'T SPEAK TODAY, YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE OR MAYBE YOU ARE, THE WAY OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TRACKS INCIDENTS IS PARAMOUNT. THAT IS HOW THEY DETERMINE ENFORCEMENT AREAS. THE PURPOSE OF THAT, SORRY, THAT WAS VERY FAST. AND THE PURPOSE IS THAT THEY TAKE ALL THE DATA THAT IS FED IN, EVERY LOCATION AND TYPE OF INCIDENT AND IT GETS FED INTO THIS MODEL AND IT DETERMINES WHERE THE POLICE OFFICERS USE THEIR DOWNTIME. WHERE TO SIT AND BE PRESENT. IT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT YOU ALL ARE CALLING IN EVERY TIME THERE IS AN INCIDENT. I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS FRUSTRATING. THERE ARE HOMES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT FRUSTRATE ME AS WELL. I LIVE IN TWIN STAR PARK AND THERE WAS A SHOOTING. SOMEONE WAS ACTUALLY SHOT. I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO PLEASE CONTINUE TO MAKE THOSE PHONE CALLS. DON'T BE ASHAMED, DON'T BE , YOU CAN ALSO CALL THE NONEMERGENCY NUMBER IF YOU THINK THAT IT IS NOT SUPERCRITICAL. IF IT IS LOUD MUSIC MAYBE OR SOMETHING LESS URGENT THAN GUNFIRE. THE OTHER ISSUE WE HAVE AS A SOCIETY IS THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO BAD THINGS. THEY WILL ALWAYS CAUSE PROBLEMS AND HAVE ISSUES. AND THAT WILL HAPPEN WITH ANY PARK. AND YOU ALL HEARD MR. HALL EARLIER SPEAK ABOUT THE ISSUES ON POINT PARK. AND THERE IS NO SHORTAGE OF ISSUES THAT HAPPENED IN THESE AREAS BECAUSE THEY ARE SO DIFFICULT TO PATROL. THIS IS LARGER THAN JUST THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS ONE AREA AS EVIDENCED BY THE AGENDA ITEM AND KNOWING THAT ALL OF THIS LAKESIDE AREA IS A PARK, IT WILL TAKE TIME FOR THE OPERATIONAL SIDE OF THE CITY TO WORK THROUGH ON HOW DO WE ENFORCE THESE PARK RULES THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN ENFORCED IN THE

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PAST. I WILL DO WHAT MIKE DID A SECOND AGO AND SAY THAT'S IT,

I WILL STOP TALKING. >> IT IS IMPORTANT TO REITERATE THAT RESIDENTS DID NOT STOP CALLING BECAUSE THEY ARE FRUSTRATED. THEY STOPPED CALLING BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID. THERE HAVE BEEN THREATS OF RETALIATION AND THERE NEED TO BE NEW PROTOCOLS TO ADDRESS HOW OR WHETHER RESIDENTS ARE IDENTIFIED. I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY ILL INTENT OR ANY INCOMPETENCE OR ANYTHING ON PART OF THE POLICE OFFICER BUT THIS IS A TRAINING ISSUE. I TOTALLY SEE HOW IT HAPPENS. YOU ARE OUT THERE AND YOU CONTACT THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE A CAMPFIRE AND YOU SAY, I'M AFRAID IT MIGHT SPREAD OVER THERE AND YOU POINT OVER TO THE SUNRISE AREA OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO BE MINIMIZED, OR THE REASON THAT THEY ARE NOT JUST GETTING LAZY OR FRUSTRATED, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE STOPPED CALLING BECAUSE THEY WERE

AFRAID. >> I THINK THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT ENFORCEMENT AND POLICIES AND THOSE THINGS AND I THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME TO HEAR FROM OUR POLICE CHIEF. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS TOPIC A LOT AND I THINK THERE ARE SOME THINGS HE CAN GIVE CONTEXT TO.

>> GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME UP AND PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING CONCERNS WITH THIS AREA THAT WE REFER TO AS MILLER AND MONEY CREEK. WE ALL SORT OF COLLOQUIALLY NAMED THIS THE KENT MILLER AREA BUT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PURPOSES, BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT CONSIDERED THIS A PARK FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS, IN ORDER FOR US TO TRACK ANY DATA, WE ARE VERY HEAVILY DATA-DRIVEN. OUR APPROACH IS FOR THE CRIME AND TRAFFIC SAFETY INITIATIVES.

THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN TO BE IN ONE OF THOSE ZONES BUT IT IS AN AREA OF HIGH PATROL. I WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME NUMBERS TO PROVIDE SOME REASSURANCES THAT OFFICERS ARE REGULARLY PATROLLING THESE AREAS AND HAVE SUSPICION BASED STOPS IN THESE AREAS AND THE REALITY IS THAT DATA DOES NOT SHOW THAT WE HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF CITIZEN INITIATED CALLS FOR SERVICE IN THESE VARIOUS AREAS. BEFORE I DO THAT I WANT TO BACK UP. WHEN THIS ISSUE WAS INITIALLY RAISED, I THINK BACK IN THE MID-LAST YEAR TIMEFRAME, JUST TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT WE WERE DEALING WITH IN TERMS OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CALLS THAT WE ACTUALLY GET AT THE MILLER AND MONEY CREEK AREA, WE HAD TO DO A SEARCH, SPECIFICALLY THE ONLY WAY FOR US TO TRACK THAT IS WHEN THE OFFICERS CALL OUT STOPS IN THE AREAS. THERE IS NO PHYSICAL ADDRESS TO THE MILLER MONEY CREEK PARKING LOT AREA.

SO THE WAY WE TRACK IT IS WITH OUR CAT SYSTEM AND THEY ARE TRYING TO STOP A VEHICLE THAT IS PASSING BY THE MILLER ROAD AND MONEY CREEK PARKING LOT. I WILL BE AT MILLER ROAD AND MONEY CREEK AND IF A CAR PULLS INTO THE PARKING LOT, THAT IS WHERE THE TRAFFIC STOP TAKES PLACE. SO WE RAN A SEARCH OF THE THREE YEARS OF CALL DATA GOING BACK TO 2021. AND WE ENDED UP WITH A TOTAL OF 21 TOTAL CALLS FOR SERVICE INCLUDING CITIZEN OR OFFICER INITIATED CALLS DIRECTLY TIED TO THE MILLER AND MONEY CREEK PARKING AREA. WHAT I FOUND IS WHEN SCREENING THROUGH THOSE IS THAT MANY OF THOSE MAY HAVE BEEN A TRAFFIC STOP THAT AN OFFICER CALLED OUT, A CAR DOESN'T ALWAYS STOP. MAYBE THEY DROVE CLEAR TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BRIDGE AND STEPPED IN THAT AREA. SO THIS WAS DIRECTLY TIED TO THE DEALER AND MONEY CREEK PARKING AREA AND THERE WAS A TOTAL OF A LITTLE LESS THAN 20. TWO BONFIRE CALLS IN NOVEMBER OF 2023, MOST OF THEM, SOME OF THEM WERE ROAD RAGE TYPE CALLS THAT HAD NOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH CRIMINAL

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ACTIVITY IN THAT AREA. AND THERE WERE SEVERAL FIREWORKS CALLS AND ONE DOMESTIC INCIDENT AND ONE REPORTED SHOOTING. AND ALL THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE ARE HAVING, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE SHOTS PEOPLE ARE HEARING, PARTICULARLY HEARING THE GUNFIRE OR CALLS REPORTED INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT SHOW EVIDENCE THAT THERE WERE IN FACT GUNFIRE, WE HAVE ONE CALL. ONE CALL GOING BACK TO FEBRUARY OF 2023. THE REPORTING PERSONS HOUSE BACK TO THE WATER AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE SHOTS CAME FROM THE BRIDGE OR WHAT WAS DESCRIBED AS THE PEDAL POINT BRIDGE. THEY SPOKE TO TWO SUBJECTS IN THE MILLER AND MONEY CREEK PARKING LOT. THE SUBJECTS WERE CONTACTED IN THE MILLER MONEY CREEK PARKING LOT AND CONFIRMED THAT THE SHOTS WERE FIRED AND HAD NO DESCRIPTION OF THE VEHICLE. NO DESCRIPTION OF INJURIES IN THAT INCIDENT. WE'VE ALSO HAD REPORTS OF TEENS JUMPING OFF THE BRIDGE, AND WE HAVE REINFORCED THAT TO OUR OFFICERS. WE HAVE HAD FOLKS INJURED JUMPING OFF THE BRIDGE. THAT IS GOING BACK TO LAST YEAR, 2023. LET ME FAST-FORWARD AND THEN I WILL GET TO YOUR QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER. AT THIS YEAR, YEAR TO DATE THIS SPEAKS TO, WE ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC, PLEASE CALL US. IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT NOISE VIOLATIONS, PEOPLE CONDUCTING HAND-TO-HAND VIOLATIONS THAT MAY LOOK SUSPICIOUS, YOU ULTIMATELY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT ANY TYPE OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, THESE NUMBERS DO NOT LIE. WE HAVE HAD FIVE CALLS OF SERVICE FROM THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR THAT INCLUDED AN OFFICER INITIATED ARREST THAT WAS MADE FOR A WANTED PERSON, IT WASN'T ILLEGAL PARKING VIOLATION, A FISHING COMPLAINT AND A FIREWORKS CALL AND LOUD MUSIC CALL. THAT IS YEAR TO DATE, 2024. 2023 WE HAD A TOTAL, I'M SORRY, GOING BACK TO 2023, WE HAD A TOTAL OF FOUR THE SAME TIME YEAR TO DATE WHICH INCLUDES THE TWO BONFIRE CALLS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED. NOW I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE PRESENCE OF OUR OFFICERS. THIS CERTAINLY HAS NOT BEEN TREATED LIKE A PARK, ESPECIALLY AFTER HOURS. IF OFFICERS ARE DRIVING BY IT IS A COMMON AREA TO DRIVE THROUGH OR DOCUMENT GREED TROLL. BASICALLY WHEN THEY ARE DRIVING THROUGH A BUSINESS COMPLEX OR APARTMENT COMPLEX, THEY ARE GREETED PATROLS. IN ADDITION TO THAT WE ARE LUGGING ANY PROACTIVE STOPS THAT ARE MADE. NOT JUST IN THIS AREA BUT ALL OF OUR PARKS. THERE WAS QUESTION ABOUT DIFFERENT ACTIVITY AT LAKESIDE PARK SOUTH AND PEDAL POINT PARK. SO YEAR TO DATE, JUST PROACTIVE PROBABLE CAUSE OF REASONABLE SUSPICION BASED STOPS, NEARLY 100. PEDAL POINT PARK, 48 COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, SAME TIME, 33.

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. >> TO ENFORCE OUR PARK ORDINANCANCE RULES THE SAME AS PARK PARK YOU NAME IT. A LITTLE EXTRA EDUCATION BUT I AM CONFIDENT WITH JUST SOME BRIEFING OUR OFFICERS ARE ALREADY IN THE PARKS A LOT. OUR PARKS ARE SAFE ESPECIALLY AFTER THE HOURS WHERE THE MAJORITY TAKE PLACE AFTER HOURS AND CONTACTS IS AFTER HOURS AND IT IS TAKING PLACE AFTER HOURS BECAUSE THEY HAVE EASY PROBABLE CAUSE AFTER 11:00 P.M., AND THEY SHOULDN'T BE IN THE PARK. OFFICERS IT GIVES THEM REASON TO MAKE CONTACT. AND IT CAN MAKE IT IN A LOW-KEY ALMOST CONSENSUAL ENVIRONMENT. AND YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A CRIMINAL VIOLATION, THEY ARE GOING TO ADDRESS IT. AND IF THEY ARE AFTER HOURS THEY WILL EDUCATE THEM. WE WANT COMPLIANCE AND EDUCATE. WE WILL EDUCATE THEM ON PARK RULES. AND 99.9% OF THE TIME PEOPLE WILL COMPLY AND LEAVE. AND SO I THINK THAT'S THE END GOAL IS EDUCATION AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR OFFICERS ARE CONSISTENTLY APPLYING OUR PARK RULES ACROSS THE BOARD.

>> CHIEF, A QUESTION FOR YOU. >> YES, SIR.

>> HOW OFTEN DO WE INTERACT WITH THE GAME WARDEN AND ASKING FOR ASSISTANT SUPPORT, PARTNERSHIP, ET CETERA?

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I DON'T THINK VERY MUCH AT ALL.

AND ACTUALLY, I WAS GLAD TO HEAR SOMEONE SUGGEST THAT. I MEAN THAT'S A POTENTIAL VIABLE OPTION AS A FORCE MULTIPLIER FOR US ESPECIALLY THE FIRSTING CONCERNS AND WE MADE A NOTE OF

AND WILL LOOK INTO. >> I THINK THERE'S SOME LEVEL OF A PARTNERSHIP THERE BECAUSE AT THE CAMPING EVENT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT SPONSORED NOT THIS YEAR BUT LAST YEAR, THE GAME WARDEN BROUGHT THE BOAT OUT ONE OF THEIR WARDENS SPOKE TO THE KIDS THAT WERE THERE FOR A WHILE. THERE WAS INTERACTION THAT WAS PRETTY COOL. BUT, I THINK THERE MAY BE SOME

PARTNERSHIP BUILT. >> AND THERE VERY WELL MAY BE

AND WE WILL LOOK INTO THAT. >> WE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE GAME WARDEN. MOST INTERACTION IS DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASON LIKE FOURTH OF JULY AND THAT SORT. SO THAT

[INAUDIBLE] >> I THINK WE MIGHT BE AT POINT WE WANT THEIR HELP SO WE MIGHT WANT TO GIVE THEM CALL AND SAY CAN YOU HELP US OUT A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE CLEARLY, THERE'S ISSUES THERE AND IF THERE'S ANGLERS BRINGING IN MORE THAN THEIR KEEP OR FISHING WITHOUT A LICENSE THAT'S DEFINITELY.

>> YES. >> COUNCIL QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF?

>> A COMMENT THANK YOU APPRECIATE ALL THAT BACKGROUND INFORMATION AND ASSISTANT CHIEF, APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP AND WHAT THE DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE DOES FOR THE COMMUNITY. YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME, AND I JUST HAVE A HUNCH THAT ONCE THIS CAMP MILLER WHATEVER WE HAVE CALL IT AS AN OFFICIAL CAMP BECOMES MORE ENFORCED IMMEDIATELY UNDER PARK RULES, THAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE A DROP, JUST MY HUNCH, I AM NOT A LAW ENFORCEMENT SPECIALIST I DON'T KNOW, WE WILL SEE A DROP IN ENTIRE AREA IN THE NUMBERS. BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM LIKE IT'S SORT OF A SYSTEMIC THING AND WHEN WE GET TO THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM I THINK WE WILL SEE IT DROP ACROSS THE BOARD. HOPEFULLY, YOUR A YEAR FROM NOW YOU WILL SAY YOU ARE A GENIUS AND CORRECT. BUT REGARDLESS, THANK

YOU GUYS. >> ALL RIGHT. WHAT YOU GOT? GO

AHEAD. >> OKAY.

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>> WHY WHY DON'T YOU GO FIRST. >> FYI I BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH PUBLIC WORK STAFF AND PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. IF WE FINALIZE THE LANGUAGE WITHIN THE NEXT DAY, WE CAN PROBABLY HAVE THIS SIGNAGE UP AND INSTALLED BY WEDNESDAY THE END

OF BUSINESS WEDNESDAY. SO. >> SO THANK YOU TO KIND OF GO BACK OVER BEFORE PEOPLE LEAVE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND KIND OF WE ARE AT RIGHT NOW. SO, THE PARK WHICH MEANS WE CAN BEGIN ENFORCEMENT POLICE CAN BEGIN ENFORCEMENT OF THE PARK RULES, SPOKE ABOUT THE SIGNAGE CITY MANAGER. WE CAN LOOK AT [INAUDIBLE] WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE SOME PORT-A-POTTY COMPANIES IF WE CAN SEE ABOUT GETTING ONE THERE. HOPEFULLY THE NEXT TWO OR THREE WEEKS IF POSSIBLE.

DEPENDING ON AVAILABILITY. AND THEN OF COURSE, AS CITY MANAGER ADDRESSED, MORE ATTENTION TO TRASH PICKUP. AND THOSE ARE THE IMMEDIATE THINGS AND, OF COURSE, WE WILL COME BACK AT A FUTURE DATE, HOPEFULLY SOME TIME IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS, TO PRESENT A PARK IMPROVEMENT PLAN. TO INCLUDE THINGS LIKE SURFACE IMPROVEMENT, PERMANENT ADDRESS ASIGNED TO THE PARK, POTENTIALLY RIP RAPPING THE BEACH AREA THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN DEPUTY PRO TEM MAYOR'S PRESENTATION. AND POTENTIAL FENCING, AND I LIKE THE POLLINATOR GARDEN IDEA, THAT WAS IN DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SHINDER AND ASSIGNING AN OFFICIAL NAME FOR THE PARK. THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE MORE LONG-TERM THINGS THAT -- NOT LONG-TERM IN A YEAR BUT A FEW MONTHS, THAT STAFF CAN COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH SOME IDEAS, THAT WE CAN FLUSH OUT. UNLESS YOU WANT IT TO BE A

COUNCIL ACTION ITEM ONLY. >> HERE'S THING, WE WILL COME BACK WITH MOST OF THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE THINGS YOU TALKED ABOUT, THE FENCING, PARKING IMPROVEMENTS. WHEN YOU CREEP INTO THE IDEA OF A POLLINATOR GARDEN, THAT CHANGES THE COMPLETE COMPLEX OF HOW WE DEVELOP THIS. AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING I AM NOT GOING TO BRING BACK TO YOU UNLESS YOU TELL ME TO. BECAUSE WHAT I AM GOING TO DO IS IMPROVE WHAT'S THERE, AND ENHANCE WHAT'S THERE TO AN APPRECIABLE DEGREE, BUT THAT'S A POLICY DECISION IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IT IN THAT DIRECTION. THAT'S NOT ADMINISTRATIVELY FOR ME TO SAY, AND I HAVEN'T HEARD A CONSENSUS ON THIS COUNCIL TONIGHT BUT THAT'S THE DIRECTION. IT MAY NOT BE THE TIME FOR YOU TO TELL ME THAT. YOU MAY TELL ME WHAT I COME BACK PHASE 2 I WANT TO BE CLEAR WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO. PHASE 2 YOU MAY SAY MAKE IT A POLLINATOR GARDEN, AND THAT WILL BE SOMETHING WE CAN DO AT THAT TIME.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT IDEA YOU HAVE SOMETHING.

>> SO TO THAT END, DOES THIS FIRST PHASE ACCOMPLISH MANY OF THE GOALS THAT WERE DISCUSSED OR MANY OF THE OBJECTIVES

DISCUSSED AND PRESENTED? >> , I CERTAINLY HOPE SO.

CERTAINLY WE CAN TALK ABOUT CLEANLINESS AND OTHER THINGS,

THOSE ARE EASILY ACCOMPLISHED. >> LET ME BE MORE SPECIFIC. I ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND PEOPLE MAKING THEIR WAY ONTO PROPERTY THAT IS SUBLEASED AND PEOPLE'S DOCKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE POLLINATOR GARDEN THAT WAS THE PURPOSE, WAS -- IS BORDERING THE PUMP STATION THAT'S THERE.

SO THE PURPOSE WAS TO KIND OF SEGREGATE THAT LAND FROM THE PARKLAND AND SO, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT.

>> , WHICH ASPECT OF SEGREGATION?

>> YES I HAVEN'T HEARD YOU WISH TO INSTALL A BARRIER BETWEEN THE PUMP STATION AND THERE ARE LIMITATION BECAUSE PROHIBITIONS AGAINST CUTTING OFF ABILITY TO TRAVERSE THE AREAS. COPING IN MIND, I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO THE STATUS BUT REMEMBER IF THE PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO THAT AREA THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ARE NOT SUBLEASED, IT TOO IS PARK AREA.

AND THE CITY WOULDN'T NOT NECESSARILY HAVE ANY RIGHT TO QUADRANT THAT OFF. SO I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU, BECAUSE I GUESS I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE OBJECTIVE. IF MAYBE THIS IS A PHASE 2 ISSUE THAT WE DEAL WITH. BUT FROM THE CITY PERSPECTIVE, IF IT IS PARK IT IS PARK. IT'S PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY THE CITY CAN, YOU KNOW, BLOCK OFF THE PARK. BUT THEN WHEN YOU GET INTO AN ISSUE OF IS SOMEONE GOING ONTO SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY, OR SUBLEASED AREA, THAT IS A DIFFERENT QUESTION. AND THAT'S AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE FOR THE POLICE IF THERE ARE VIOLATIONS

OF LAW. >> YES, I THINK THE MANY OF THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE PARK RULES WE WILL ALLEVIATE 90 TO 95% OF THE ISSUES THAT'S A CRITICAL ISSUE.

>> I THINK SO. >> THAT STILL --

>> I THINK SO AND WE CAN DO THAT STUFF IMMEDIATELY.

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>> OKAY. AND THERE'S PROBABLY THIS IS PROBABLY PART OF A BIGGER CONVERSATION AT SOME POINT. BUT WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE SHOULD SPAN ALL OF THE TAKE LINE AREA THAT'S NOT SUBLEASED CURRENTLY. THERE'S D -- I MEAN THAT'S THROUGHOUT

THE CITY. I DON'T KNOW. >> I AM NOT SURE WHAT THAT MEANS. YEAH, I AM NOT SURE WHAT THAT MEANS.

>> YOU ARE NOT SURE WHAT THAT MEANS.

>> YES. >> THIS ISSUE ENFORCEMENT OF PARK RULES IN ALL THE AREAS WHICH ARE NOW PRESUMABLY A PARK, ALONG THE SHORELINE, WHAT HAPPENS?

>> NO, SIR AND WE BEGUN TO ADDRESS THAT TOPIC AND IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS THIS PER SE AND IT'S RELATIVE. AND IT'S CONTEXTUAL. SO YOU TAKE A PARCEL THAT IS IN BETWEEN ABUTING TWO ADJACENT PARCELS THAT ARE SUBLEASED SO TECHNICALLY, THE PARCEL THIS IS A NOT SUBLEASED IS PARK PROPERTY. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT THEN TO TRAVERSE ACROSS PRIVATE PROPERTY TO ACCESS THAT. SO PRACTICLLY, AGAIN WE ARE GIVING YOU TWO THINGS. GIVING YOU THEORETICAL ANSWER IT IS PARK LAND AND PRACTICE ASPECT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE EASILY ACCESSIBLE BY ANYONE TO THE PUBLIC UNLESS THEY BREAK THE LAW. AND THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE. NOW IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT MAINTENANCE OF THOSE AREAS, THAT, TOO, IS ALSO CONTEXTUAL IF GENERALLY IT IS ALLOWED TO EXIST IN ITS NATURAL GREEN BELT STATE.

THAT'S RELATIVE TO THE CONDITION. IF IT'S -- IF WE HAD AN ISSUE ONE HAD A LARGE SINK HOLE OR OTHER SUCH THINGS THOSE ARE THINGS TO ADDRESS. IF THERE'S INORDINATE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS OR THINGS WE WILL ADDRESS THAT BUT THERE'S IN THE AN OBLIGATION, I SHOULD BE VERY CLEAR, TO GO OUT AND MANICURE A PROPERTY THAT'S ADJACENT THAT'S SUBLEASED.

WELL, AND I THINK IT IS. AND SO I GUESS I AM GLAD YOU BROUGHT THIS UP. THAT'S NOT THE OBLIGATION THAT'S INURED OR RESPONSIBILITY TO US UNDER THE IOA OR REASONABLE PRACTICAL INTERPRETATION OR ENFORCEMENT OF THE PROVISIONS.

>> SO, SORRY. I THOUGHT YOU WERE DONE. SO ARE WE SAYING IF THERE IS A PARCEL OF TAKE AREA THAT'S IN BETWEEN TWO SUBLEASED TAKE AREAS IT'S A PARK, BUT THEN IF SOMEONE MOVES IN THERE AND DECIDES TO SUBLEASE IT, IT IS NO LONGER A

PARK? >> THAT'S CORRECT. AND

UNDEVELOPED PARK. >> AND THAT'S I AM GLAD THE AGENDA ITEM IS MORE COMPREHENSIVE THAN THIS PARTICULAR AREA. WITH THAT INFORMATION IN MIND, A-GRANTED YOU JUST GOT IT THIS WEEKEND, SO I UNDERSTAND MAYBE WE HAVE NOT GONE THROUGH TO FIGURE IT OUT, BUT IT JUST POTENTIALLY IS A BIGGER CONVERSATION THAN WHAT.

>> WE HAVE THAT'S WHY I CAN ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS YOU ASK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THIS PARCEL THIS PARCEL IF IT'S PARK AND HOW DO ADDRESS IT. WE SPENT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME IN THIS SMALL WINDOW GOING THROUGH THAT PERMUTATION.

>> DID YOU TALK TO ANYONE AT CITY OF DALLAS AND WHETHER

THAT'S THE INTENT OF THE IOA. >> THE IOA IS VERY CLEAR IT DESIGNATES THAT ANYTHING THAT THE CITY DESIGNATES AS A PARK IN THAT LEASED AREA IS A PARK. AND IN OUR ORDINANCE FROM 1982 IS EQUALLY CLEAR IT'S A PARK. THERE WOULD BE NO REASON TO

CALL DALLAS. >> PASS AN ORDINANCE CHANGING

THAT. >> YOU ABSOLUTELY COULD.

>> DID WE BEAT THAT HORSE TO DEATH? I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE RECESS. LET'S

>>I KNEW SOMETHING WAS NOT RIGHT.

>> I LOVE SCIENCE. >> ALL RIGHT, WHAT'S THE NEXT

[4C. Discuss Tree Reforestation Policy outlining possible uses of funds collected in lieu of tree mitigation, and any related ordinance updates]

ITEM? >> YES TREES ITEM 4 C CUSS TREE REFORESTIZATION AND COLLECTED IN LEW OF TREE MITIGATION AND

ANY RELATED ORENCE IN UPDATES. >> JOINED BY CORY REAM DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WE WILL BE VERY BRIEF TONIGHT. I WILL LET CORY TAKE IT AWAY. THIS IS -- YOU LIKE TREES WE LIKE TREES, THE END. ALL RIGHT. LIKE WE WILL TRY SHE SAID WE WILL GO THROUGH QUICKLY SLOW US DOWN IF WE ARE GOING TOO FAST.

IT'S ABOUT REFORESTATION POLICY WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY. TO GIVE YOU BACKGROUND TWO SECTIONS OF THE ORDINANCES THAT COULD HAVE RELATE TO TREE PRESERVATION MITIGATION, AND TALK ABOUT COLLECTING FEES FOR TREES WHICH ARE NOT MITIGATED BY EITHER PRESERVED TREES OR REPLANTED TREES. SO THIS IS KIND OF JUST A QUICK RUN DOWN OF HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS AND HOW THE FEES ARE CAL CUE LATED. REFERENCES IN CHAPTER 77 IN THE ROWLET DEVELOPMENT CODE AND CONFLICTING VERBIAGE IN CHAPTER 989 UNDER THE TREE REPLACE PLENT WHICH IS A SEPARATE SECTION OF THE ORDINANCES THAT

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HAS DIFFERENT LANGUAGE FOR THE CREDIT SET ALORD FOR REPLANTING OF TREES AND HAD APPROVES THE TREES AND OTHER THINGS. SO WE WILL KIND OF WORK ON THOSE ORDINANCE UPDATES TO CLARIFY THAT AND CLEAN IT UP LATER DATE, BUT, WHICH EVER -- WE HAVE DEFAULTED TO CHAPTER 98 OF THE ORDINANCES FOR ALL OF THE TREE PRESERVATION, AND THAT'S WHERE IT SPEAKS TO AND THE ONLY PLACE REFORESTATION FUND WHICH IS WHAT BRINGS US HERE TONIGHT.

>> SO, TODAY, WE HAVE A LITTLE OVER 423,000 DOLLAR IN THE REFORESTATION FUND BUT THERE HAS NOT BEEN POLICY ON THE BOOKS FOR HOW THE FUNDS ARE EXPEND. SO SO, CORY AND I HAVE DONE DIGGING HOW OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HANDLE THIS WE LOOKED AT GARLAND AND DALLAS AND ORDINANCES RANGE FROM JUST FOLLOWING WHAT'S IN THE REFORESTATION PLAN AND VERY IN-DEPTH SIGNIFICANT GUIDELINES FOR THE REFORESTATION. SO, WHAT STAFF WILL PLAN TO BRING BACK TO YOU IS A VERY BASELINE ORDINANCE INSTRUCTING STAFF TO USE REENFORESTATION FUNDS BASED ON THE POLICY BUT WE THOUGHT WHAT WE DO IS BRING TO YOU WHAT WE ARE SUGGESTING PUTTING IN THAT REFORESTATION POLICY, BASED ON BEST PRACTICES ACROSS THE METROPLEX. AND SO, THESE ARE THE FIVE CATEGORIES THAT WE CAME UP WITH FOR REFORESTATION POLICY THAT WE FEEL ARE BROAD ENOUGH TO ENCAPSULATE GOALS OF THE REENFORCESTATION AND GOALS OF THE FUND AND FLEXIBILITY HOW THE FUNDS ARE SPENT. MAJORITY OF THE CITY'S STATE THAT THEIR REFORESTATION FUNDS WILL BE USED ALMOST MAJORITY ON PLANTING TREES ON CITY PROPERTY. A LOT OF THE POLICIES AROUND THE METROPLEX TALK ABOUT PLANTING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT THIS IS FOR RESIDENTIAL TREE GIVEAWAYS. SO WE ARE THINKING ARBOR DAY AND OTHER TREE GIVE AWAY USING THE FUNDS FOR THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS STATED IS REFORESTATION FUNDS WILL NOT BE USED TO OFFSET THE FAILURE FOR DEVELOPERS TO PUT IN TREES. THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD SUGGEST, TOO. EXISTING TREE MAINTENANCE, SO BEING ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THE TREES THAT ARE ALREADY PLANTED IN THE CITY WOULD BE A GOOD USE OF THESE FUNDS. AS WELL AS STORM DAMAGE MITIGATION. SO THE WIND STORM THAT STRUCK THE CITY EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE HAD A LOT OF TREES THAT WERE DAMAGED. THE REFORESTATION FUNDS COULD BE USED TO FIX THOSE TREES, AND THEN IN SOME CASES REPLANT THE TREES THAT WERE DAMAGED IN STORMS FREEZES AND WIND STORMS, AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, A CITY WIDE TREE CANOPY ANALYSIS OR OTHER ASSESSMENTS THAT LET US KNOW WHERE TREES SHOULD BE PLANTED, WHAT CANOPY LEVELS LOO LOOK LIKE. WE FEEL BETWEEN STAFF THE FIVE CATEGORIES ARE SPECIFIC HOW THE FUND SHOULD BE USED BUT BROAD ENOUGH TO ALLOW FOR FLEXIBILITY FOR THE REFORESTATION FUND AND SO FOR NEXT STEPS, CORY INDICATED, WE WANT TO BRING BACK CLEANING UP OF CHAPTER 77 AND 98. WE PLAN TO MOVE OUR REFORESTATION LANGUAGE INTO THE VEGETATION CHAPTER 98 FOR JUST CLARITY. AND THEN REMOVE THE TREE PRESS PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS FROM CHAPTER 77. AND WE PLAN TO BRING BACK A BASELINE ORDINANCE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ADOPTING THE -- UTILIZING THE FUNDS BASED ON THE TREE MITIGATION -- REFORESTATION POLICY AND GUIDELINES WE PRESENTED TO YOU.

SO, I THINK I TALKED ENOUGH. CORY WILL TAKE YOUR HARD

QUESTIONS. >> THAT'S IT? OKAY. LOVE THAT.

I DID JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, IT IS NOT A RECENT STUDY, BUT IN NOVEMBER OF 2018, WE WERE DELIVERED WITH A ROWLETT SO YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT. OBVIOUSLY NOT UPDATED. THERE'S -- A LOT OF THINGS CHANGED DEVELOPMENT AND ALL OF THAT, BUT, THAT WAS GOING MORE INTO THE POINT OF LOOKING AT A NEW ANALYSIS, MAYBE LOOKING AT THAT UPDATING IT. OKAY.

>> IF I COULD JUMP IN. ONE OF THE, I GUESS, THINGS THAT STRUCK ME WE KNOW WHEN A DEVELOPER GOES IN THEY HAVE TO REMOVE TREES IT'S A GIVEN NOT ALWAYS PLEASANT BUT THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. IT SEEMS TO ME, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE ARE COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER THEY ARE PAYING FOR ENTRY WHATEVER, I MEAN LET'S FACE IT ON A $10 MILLION PROJECT, $100,000 FOR TREE MITIGATION IS ROUNDING. I DON'T WANT IT TO BE PENAL BUT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW, WE ARE MAXIMIZING THAT AND JUST TO TRY TO MAKE THEM MORE AWARE OF SAVING TREES. THE OTHER THING THAT, AND I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME AND MAYBE YOU CAN

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CORRECT ME. ON THE FIRST SLIDE IN FACT I THINK YOU MAY HAVE REFERENCED IT. YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT UP TO -- ONE CALIPER MAN 4 INCH TREES FOR REPLACEMENT? I THINK I SEEN BEFORE IT WAS 3 INCH TREES AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS TOO SMALL. WE NEEDED TO

HAVE A LARGER CALIPER FOR THAT. >> THE WAY THAT THIS READS WE GIVE A 1 TO 1 INCH SO IF THEY REMOVED 400 CALIPER INCHES OF PROTECTED TREES THEY HAVE TO REPLACE IT WITH 400 OR PAY THE FEE FOR 400. BUT THAT CAN'T BE DONE BY TWO OR THREE INCH TREES. EACH INDIVIDUAL TREES PLANTED HAS TO BE AT LEAST 4

INCHES FOR IT TO COUNT. >> THAT'S HOW IT IS SET UP.

>> THAT'S THE WAY IT CURRENTLY IS.

>> DOES ONE A HALF TO ONE REPLACEMENT.

>> OTHER COMMUNITIES? >> IT'S ALL ACROSS THE BOARD.

>> REALLY? >> WE CAN BRING THE INFORMATION BACK TO YOU. I WOULD SAY THAT, WELL, ACTUALLY LET ME NOT GIVE TOO MUCH INFORMATION. THOUGHTS I DON'T HAVE THE DATA TO BACK

IT UP. >> AGAIN I DOESN'T WANT TO BE IN A POSITION TO STIFLE DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S NOT WHA WE ARE TRYING TO DO. BUT WE HAVE LOT OF TREES IN THIS CITY AND PEOPLE REALLY CARE FOR THEM A LOT AND ARE ATTACHED TO THEM, AND SOMEBODY WILL PULL THEM OUT, THEY BETTER, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S SOME SORT OF COMPROMISE WHERE WE FEEL THE TREES ARE BEING TREATED FAIRLY. I AM NOT SURE I

FEEL THAT. >> THIS IS JUST REFORESTATION POLICY. I DIDN'T GET THE INFORMATION FOR THE UPDATED TREE MITIGATION. BUT THAT WILL COME MOVING IT FROM ONE LOCATION TO THE OTHER. WE WILL DO THE CLEANUP NECESSARY AND HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU AT THAT TIME.

>> OKAY. THAT WAS ACTUALLY MY QUESTION BECAUSE IT APPEARED IT WAS FOCUS ON HOW TO USE THE FUNDS. AND WHETHER WE LOOK AT CHANGES TO THE ENTIRE TREE ORDINANCE.

>> WE ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU RECOMMENDATION FOR CLEANUP AND CLARITY BECAUSE WE HAVE CONFLICTING STATEMENTS. AND THAT WOULD BE THE PRIORITY. BUT THEN WE WILL ALSO DO THE ANALYSIS FOR THE FEES ALONG WITH I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A MASTER FEE UPDATE BUT WE WILL TRY TO DID IT CONCURRENTLY SO

YOU CAN HAVE THE FACTS AT ONCE. >> RIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> DOES THE TREE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM DOES THAT INCLUDE

REMOVAL OF DEAD TREES? >> YES, SIR THAT INCLUDES THE REMOVAL OF DEAD TREES PRUNING TREES.

>> JUST SO HAPPENED THIS MORNING I WAS COMING OUT RCC AND CITIZEN CAME UP TO ME AND COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF DEAD TREES ON THE PATHWAY UP THERE AT PECAN GROVE. THAT

WOULD INCLUDE THAT RIGHT. >> YES, SIR.

>> OKAY. >> THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.

YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING A SUGGESTION FOR US ON WHAT A DEVELOPER DOES NOT REPLACE TREES IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID OR

COULDY REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID. >> YES, SIR ONE OF THE CONSISTENT PROVISION IN EVERY TREE ORDER INNOCENCE WE FOUND ACROSS THE METROPLEX IS THE TREE MITIGATION FUND COULD NOT BE USED TO SUPPLEMENT THE DEVELOPER'S FAILURE TO REPLACE TREES. THIS WOULD BE USED FOR OUR CITY OWNED PROPERTY AND RESIDENTIAL TREE GIVE AWAYS BUT NOT THIS FUND TO OFFSET ANY SHORTCOMINGS BY THE DEVELOPER TO FULFILL THEIR OBLIGATIONS.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU.

[4D. Discuss a contract with Swinerton Builders to act as the Construction Manager At Risk (“CMAR”) for the construction of the Municipal Complex project (City Hall, Public Safety Administration, Animal Shelter, and Herfurth Park).]

>> ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE ONTO ITEM 4D WHICH IS TO DISCUSS A CONTRACT WITH WINNERTON BUILDINGS TO ACT AS CONSTRUCTION ASTERISK FOR CONSTRUCTION MUNICIPAL CONSTRUCTION PROTECT INCLUDING CITY HALL ANIMAL SHELTER AND

HERBERT PARK. >> CITY MANAGER AND WITH ME IS LAWYERS OUR PROJECT MANAGERAND MY GOAL IS TO GET HER IN FRONT OF YOU MORE OFTEN AND ME LESS OFTEN. THEE ITEMS WE WILL MAKE IT CRIBBINGLY AND WILL RUN THROUGH THEM. SELECTION PROCESS, TWO-STEP PROCESS BY SUN QUALIFICATION. SECOND IS BASED ON COST. SO WE HAVE THE BENEFIT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE DURING THE DESIGN PROCESS BEING ABLE TO GET THE COST INFORMATION UP FRONT AS PART OF THE PROCESS. WINNERTON IS A LARGER FIRM A NATIONAL FIRM WE RECOMMEND AND LOT OF OFFICES.

YOU CAN SEE HERE. AND GARY BRIGHT IS THE PROJECT MANAGER AND WE WILL SEE THROUGHOUT AND MANAGING THE PROJECT FOR US.

AND THESE OTHER TWO INDIVIDUALS ARE COST ESTIMATING CREW FOR PRECONSTRUCTION AND I WILL GO OVER THAT IN DETAIL SHORTLY.

THIS IS THE REST OF THE TEAM WHEN WE GET UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THEY ARE RESOURCES DURING THE INITIAL PRECONSTRUCTION PHASE AS WELL. YOU CAN SEE OVER HERE DEMOGRAPHICS ABOUT THE COMPANY, THIS IS A LITTLE UNUSUAL THIS IS AN EMPLOYEE OWNED ORGANIZATION. SO, A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN A LOT OF THE OTHER COMPANIES WE LOOKED AT. EQUALLY IF I CAGES YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT SCORED IN THE CRITERIA UP TOP THERE. SO THESE

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ARE THE THREE COMPANIES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS THE MOST QUALIFIED HAVING EXPERIENCE WITH SIMILAR COMPLEX LARGE PROJECTS. AND THEN WE GOT A CHANCE TO LOOK AT PRICE, PRICES MADE UP THREE ELEMENTS. THE PRECONSTRUCTION FEE WHICH IS FLAT, FOR THE PRECONSTRUCTION PROCESS. AND YOU HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FEE WHICH IS A PERCENTAGE OF THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR WHAT THEY CALL WORK. AND THAT IS BASED ON FLEXIBLE DEPENDING ON WHAT THE CONSTRUCTION COST IS.

SOMETIMES REFERRED TO AS BASICALLY THE PROFIT MARGIN.

YOU CAN SEE HERE, GENERAL CONDITIONS IS THEIR COST RECOVERY FOR EMPLOYEES THEY UTILIZE IN THE RESOURCE FOR EMPLOYEES DURING THAT CONSTRUCTION PERIOD.

SWINERTON'S BID WITH A $2.5 MILLION LOWER THAN THE OTHER TWO ORGANIZATIONS. SO, VERY COMPETITIVE. BACK TO HOW THE PROCESS WORKS. YOU KNOW WE HAVE GOT THESE PHASES OF DESIGN, AND WHAT WE WILL START WITH IS PRECONSTRUCTION SO WE BRING IN THE PARTNER ON NOW EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT CONTRIBUTING THE PROJECT UNTIL YOU GET ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS, BUT THEY ARE HERE TO HELP IN THE DESIGN PROCESS WITH COST ESTIMATION LOOKING AT WHAT METHODS OF CONSTRUCTION METHODS ARE MORE EFFICIENT FOR US. AND TO TAKE A LOOK AT MARKETPLACE IDENTIFY LONG LEAD ITEMS THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE ORDER WELL IN ADVANCE LIKE, GENERAL RATERS RIGHT NOW. AND SO THAT REALLY IS THE PART OF THE PRICE YOU ARE CONTRIBUTING OR OBLIGATED IS PRECONSTRUCTION CROFT $30,000. WE ARE ASKING FOR THE FULL AUTHORIZATION SHOULD THIS MOVE FORWARD ALL THE WAY TO $OF 5 MILLION CONSTRUCTION COSTS. BUT WE WILL BE BACK WITH A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE AMENDMENT ONCE WE ESTABLISH THAT INFORMATION AS WELL. SO YOU WILL SEE THAT BEFORE WE MOVE ON THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION -- THAT'S DEVELOPED TOWARD THE END OF THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWING DESIGN PHASE. AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THERE WILL BE ROUNDS OF COST ESTIMATION AND PROVIDING ESTIMATES AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THAT PROCESS. SO WE BRING THIS BACK TO YOU TOMORROW NIGHT FOR CONSIDERATION. AND YOU WILL SEE THAT AMENDMENT AROUND 70, 90% CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS IN THE SPRING, AND GROUND BREAKING IN APRI RIBBON

CUTTING FALLISH. QUESTIONS. >> COUNCIL, QUESTIONS? I WANTED TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU PUT INTO THIS CMAR PROCESS. HAVING THE FEE PROPOSAL FROM SWINERTON AS LOW AS $2.25 MILLION OR 1.8% SERVICE FEE IS LIKE YOU SAID, VERY COMPETITIVE. AND I WOULD BE LOOKING AT THAT IF I DIDN'T KNOW WHOSWINERTON I WOULD SAY I NEED TO LOOK AT COMPANY MORE AND THINK IS IT A GOOD PRODUCT, BUT SWINERTON IS A MASSIVE ORGANIZATION AND LARGER THAN I THINK PROBABLY THE OTHER TWO COMPETITORS. SO, I WAS SURPRISED AND EQUIPMENT PRESSED AT THEIR BID, AND GLAD TO SEE THAT WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THEM FOR THIS REALLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PROJECTS THIS

CITY HAS EVER UNDERTAKEN . >> I WANT TO SAY I AM EXCITED WE ARE FINALLY GETTING STARTED, YOU KNOW. THERE'S SOMETHING TANGIBLE TO HOLD ONTO. ON THIS PROJECT, BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO IT FOR A LONG TIME, AND WE HAVE HAD SOME CITIZENS WHO ASKED WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG TO GET STARTED.

AND I THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT IS THIS IS A HUGE PROJECT. YOU KNOW, THIS IS 77 MILLION DOLLARS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SPENDING. AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET IT RIGHT, THAT WE GET THE RIGHT PEOPLE, THE RIGHT COMPANIES IN THERE TO HANDLE THIS. AS THE MAYOR SAID, YOU KNOW, AT FIRST, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE PRICE COMPARISON, IT WAS LIKE HMM, BUT THEN GOING BACK, AND RESEARCHING SWINERTON AND LOOKING AT QUALIFICATIONS, THIS WE REALLY, I DON'T KNOW WE GOT LUCKY HERE OR YOU ARE A MASTER NEGOTIATOR OR SOMETHING. BECAUSE I THINK WE REALLY KIND OF GOT THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS THERE. AND, THIS IS DEFINITELY A VERY COMPREHENSIVE CONTRACT. I TRIED TO GO THROUGH IT ALL, BUT I -- YEAH. I AM NOT IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY, SO I HAVE TO TRUST THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE OR WHO HAVE DONE THIS MANY TIMES BEFORE, AND SO I THINK YOU KNOW, I AM SURE THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS REVIEWED IT. THAT WAS FUN, I AM SURE. AND THAT YOU KNOW SHALL ALL OF YOU IN CITY MANAGEMENT HAVE REVIEWED IT AND I TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO US, AND I AM REALLY, REAL EXCITED TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT STEP IN THIS.

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>> I BEINGO MY COLLEAGUE'S STATEMENTS. THANK YOU FOR DOING HEAVY LIFTING AND OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SELECT THAT. THANK YOU. LOOK FORWARD TO THIS AND A SIDE NOTE I THINK IT'S COOL THE LEAD ESTIMATEOR LIVES HERE IN ROWLETT.

>> THANK YOU, YOU KNOW, SERVING ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE WITH COUNCIL MEMBERSCHUPP AND IT WAS GREAT AND A FREIGHT OPPORTUNITY

TO GET. >> THE WEEDS WITH THE WAY THEY VET AND GOES THROUGH THE PURCHASING PROCESS AND HUGE SHOUT OUT TO THEM THAT'S NOT IN MANY CASES NOT THEIR DAY JOB SO TO SPEAK. THEY PROBABLY HAD OTHER DUTIES THEY WERE SETTING ASIDE TO BE THERE SITTING IN ROOM LISTENING TO PRESENTATIONS AND GOING OVER REVIEWS AND LOOKING AT ASSESSMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT. SWINERTON THE THING THAT STUCK OUT FOR ME THE MOST WAS THEIR AWARENESS OF THE PLAN FOR CONSTRUCTION AND UNDERSTANDING IT IS GOING TO BE IMPACTFUL. THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND COMPONENT OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS GREAT. THEY HAVE THE CALL IT COFFEE WITH CONTRACTORS WHICH I THINK IS COOL AND FIBS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF AND RESIDENTS TO MEET WITH THEM AND BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION SO THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT'S HAPPENING. ONE THING WAY I WANT TO POINT OUT AND I THINK IS COOL AND I THINK ALL OF THE CMARS HAD THIS PARTICULAR SKILL IS THEY GO THROUGH AND DO VIRTUAL WALKS THROUGH OF THE BUILDINGS AT VARIOUS STAGES OF CONSTRUCTION. ANY POINT IN THE FUTURE IF WE ARE LOOK FOR PIPE OR ELECTRICAL LINE OR ANYTHING, WE CAN REFER BACK TO THE VIDEO WALK THROUGH AND SEE IT AT DIFFERENT PHASES OF CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT AND KNOW AT WHAT POINT THAT WENT IN AND EXACTLY WHERE IT IS AT IN THE WALL. IT IS, I MEAN, DOWNRIGHT AWESOME. AND IT SEEMS SO OBVIOUS, BUT YOU KNOW, I HAD A SLAP LEAK IN MY HOME AND I WOULD HAVE LIKE TO HAVE KNOWN WHERE THE PIPES WERE RATHER THAN OUR CONTRACTOR HAVING TO GO OUT THERE WITH WEAK DETECTORS AND THIS STUFF TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. SO REALLY EXCITED FOR THE PROJECT. THANK YOU, AGAIN, TO STAFF FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND MAKING IT HAPPEN.

>> ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT, THE AGGRESSIVE BUT EXCITING SCHEDULE WHERE HERE ON THE SLIDE IN FRONT OF YOU, GROUND BREAKING SHOWING TO BE APRIL 2024, AND RIBBON CUTTING, OBVIOUSLY PENDING SO MANY FACTORS. BUT, SHOWING FALL OF 2025 IS A PRETTY AGGRESSIVE -- APRIL 2024.

>> DID WE MISS THAT. >> WE DID.

>> YEAH APRIL 2025, SORRY. >> AS YOU GET OLDER YOU WANT TO HOLD BACK THE DATES, SO I AM TO THE READY FOR 2025 YET.

>> MISINFORMING COUNCIL IS A CRIME.

>> '25 AND '26. >> JOBBING. ANYWAY IT'S AN IMPRESSIVE AND EXCITING SCHEDULE. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S SUBJECT TO FACTORS BUT I WAS PLEASED TO SEE THAT. SO WE ARE PUSHING IT. GLAD TO SEE THAT. ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCIL?

>> THAT'S GROUND BREAKING APRIL 2025 RIBBON CUTTING FALL

OF 2026? >> YES, SIR.

>> DON'T WANT TO SET EXPECTATIONS HIGHER THAN WE CAN

DELIVER. >> WHERE ARE THE KEYS TO THE BUILDING, WE SHOULD BE IN THERE.

>> IT'S PREFAB STRUCTURE. >> YEAH. WE ARE BRINGING IT ON TRAILERS. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT. THEN WE WILL MOVE ONTO EXHETIVE SESSION AND I WILL READ BOTH OF

[2. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

THEM KNOT RECORD ITEM 2A CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE IN CLOSED EXECUTIVE SECTION PURSUIT TEXTATE GOVERNMENT COLD 55101 CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY TO SEEK ADVICE AND ITEM 2B CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE INTO CLOSE EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE CONVERSATION WITH THE ATTORNEY TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE FOR PARK IMPROVEMENT DEVELOPMENT AN AGREEMENT WITH RELATED TO A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION GENERALLY LOCATED EAST OF PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE AND SOUTH OF ROYAL BAY DRIVE AND NORTH OF CAROL LANE EXPANSION OF COLUMBIA PARK WITH WITH THAT, IT'S 8:49 P.M. COUNCIL AND WE WILL GO.

>> THE

>>> KOOP ALL RIGHT. IT'S 9:18 AND CITY COUNCIL CONCLUDE BOTH EXECUTIVE ITEMS WITH NO ACTION TAKEN AND WE WILL SEE YOU TOMORROW NIGHT.

OH, YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. FORGOT. YOU WANT ANYTHING ELSE.

>> NO. OKAY. >> NO.

>>

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.