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AT 6 P.M. AS AUTHORIZED BY SECTION 5 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THIS MEETING MAY BE CONVENED INTO CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF TAKING CONFIDENTIAL LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY ON ANY AGENDA ITEM AND THE CITY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO RECONVENE, RECESS, OR CALL THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
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AND INSTRUCTIONS ARE AVAILABLE ON THE TABLE OUTSIDE THE DOOR OF THE CONFERENCE ROOM, AND WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GET INTO CITIZENS AND PUT AND FIRST AND ONLY CARD AT THIS POINT IS JUSTIN MARSTON AND HE WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. YOU CAN JUSTSTAND ANYWHERE. >> JUSTIN BARR STAN, INAUDIBLE ], I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE EXISTING TREE ORDINANCE . I HAVE TALKED WITH SEVERAL OF YOU BEFORE AND CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. A COUPLE OF MAIN POINTS THAT I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT AS FAR AS HOW IT RELATES TO THE EXISTING TREE ORDINANCE, THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT I THINK COULD BE IMPROVED ON, SPECIFICALLY THE LARGER THE TREE SIZE, I BELIEVE A REPLACEMENT RATIO , BASICALLY A MULTIPLIER FOR TREE SIZES WILL BE BENEFICIAL. I HAVE DONE SEVERAL TREE MITIGATION AND TREE ORDINANCES THROUGH MY PAST EXPERIENCE THAT SEVERAL CITIES HAVE A LOT MORE -- STRICTER GUIDELINES FOR THEIR TREE ORDINANCE, ESPECIALLY TREES THAT ARE LARGER IN SIZE, JUST BECAUSE OF THE SHEER FACTOR THAT IT TAKES SUCH A LONG TIME FOR TREES TO GROW BACK. AND I THINK WE SHOULD DO MORE OF THAT AND I ADVISED THE DEVELOPERS TO PROTECT MORE AND LARGER TREES AND PENALIZE THEM FOR THE REMOVAL OF THESE TREES. THE BIGGEST THING THAT I HAVE FOUND ON THE TREE ORDINANCE IS JUST THE SIZE I MENTIONED BEFORE, EIGHT INCHES IS CUT TO -- CURRENTLY A PROTECTED TREE.
MANY OF THE CITIES THAT I DEAL WITH ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS START WITH SIX INCHES AND ABOVE SOME GOING DOWN AS LOW AS FOUR POINT. ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL CONSIDER IS HIRING AND WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE CONSULTANT THAT IS FAMILIAR WITH THESE TREE ORDINANCES TO HELP PRESERVE AND REVISE THE TREE MITIGATION LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE. AND LASTLY, I KNOW I TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE, BUT I THINK REALLOCATING SOME OF THE TREE FUNDS FOR SOME OF THESE PROJECTS THAT THE CITY HAS COULD BE DEFINITELY -- INCLUDE TREE PURCHASING, BUT ALSO INCLUDED THINGS LIKE PARK CONSTRUCTION, PARK DESIGN, CONSULTATION, GENERAL PARK MAINTENANCE, AS WELL AS OPPORTUNITIES FOR ACQUIRING LAND OR BUILDING TRAILS, THINGS LIKE THAT
[4A. Discuss and provide feedback on the presentation from American Golf Corporation regarding the operation of the Waterview Golf Course.]
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT, THEN MOVING ON TO ITEM FOR A, A PRESENTATION FROM AMERICAN GOLF CORPORATION REGARDING
>> WE DID THAT. CANCEL DID NOT RECEIVE A COPY OF THE
PRESENTATION, DID WE? >> I DON'T THINK.
>> GOOD EVENING. THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
>> THANKS FOR LETTING US COME BACK. TO ADDRESS YOU ALL. MY NAME IS PAUL, I AM SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT AT AMERICAN GOLF CORPORATION, I AM JOINED BY AND KING SIMMONS, WHO IS OUR GENERAL MANAGER HERE AT WATERVIEW, AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE JUST CELEBRATED KING'S ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY AT WATERVIEW. HE'S BEEN WITH OUR COMPANY FOR TOO MANY YEARS, HE PROBABLY DOESN'T WANT ME TO SAY, WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE HIM TAKE A POSITION YOU'RE AT WATERVIEW, AND I THINK WE CONTINUE TO SEE POSITIVE RESULTS, NOT ONLY COURSE CONDITIONS, PLAYER PARTICIPATION, BUT ALSO OUR OVERALL TRAJECTORY FOR RECORD ROUNDS ON REVENUE, SO WE WANT TO CELEBRATE KING'S WORK OVER THERE . HE DEFINITELY WILL CONTINUE TO DELIVER FOR THE CITY , RESIDENTS AND GUESTS AND AMERICAN GOLF, SO, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT THE NEXT YEAR HAS TO HOLD FOR ALL OF US.
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>> LET'S SEE. THERE WE GO. JUST A COUPLE OF BULLETS FROM OUR LAST MEETING, JUST SORT OF AS A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY FOR ANYONE WHO MAY HAVE MISSED OUR LAST MEETING. AS YOU ALL KNOW, AMERICAN GOLF OPERATES ON A LONG-TERM LEASE, WE PAY APPROXIMATELY $250,000 ANNUAL IN RENT, WHICH IS EQUAL TO THE BOND PAYMENT FROM ONE OF THE ORIGINAL BONDS THAT WAS FLOATED TO BUILDING THE GOLF COURSE ORIGINALLY. AMERICAN GOLF HAS INVESTED OVER $10 MILLION INTO THE OPERATIONS OF WATERVIEW AND WE CONTINUE TO INVEST TO THIS DAY. WE ARE OVERALL -- HAPPY TO REPORT , AND BRAD IS HERE TODAY, WE ARE EXPERIENCING IMPROVED SPIRIT OF ALL STAKEHOLDERS WANTING TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY, AND WE ARE ALL IN A POSITION TO BUILD ON THAT COLLABORATION. I THINK IT IS A COMBINATION OF, YOU KNOW, THE STAKEHOLDERS GETTING TOGETHER, THE WARMNESS OF KING AND HIS COMMITMENT TO THE PROPERTY, BUT ALSO, REALLY WANT TO THANK THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE , MR. BAUER, FOR WORKING SO CLOSELY WITH US. IT HAS SORT OF BEEN UNPRECEDENTED HOW CLOSELY WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER, AND HAVING THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO COME HERE AND COLLABORATE WITH CITY COUNCIL, WE FEEL LIKE WE ARE IN A GOOD PLACE, AND WE THANK YOU, VERY HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS. OUR OVERALL GOAL IS TO MAINTAIN AND GROW WATERVIEW AS A VALUABLE, COMMUNITY RECREATIONAL ASSET, AND STRIVE TO PROVIDE THE BEST GOLFING EXPERIENCE FOR CITY RESIDENTS AND VISITORS. AND TO MAINTAIN THE GOLF COURSE TO PETITIONS OF COMPARABLE COURSES. SINCE OUR LAST MEETING, WITH THE HELP OF MR. BAUER AND THE ADVISORY BOARD, THREE COMPARABLE COURSES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED BY THE STAKEHOLDERS, WHICH IS PROGRESS TOWARDS OBJECTIVE COMPARISON, SO NOW WE CAN SEE, FEEL, TOUCH WHAT WE ARE ALL STRIVING FOR AND WHAT WE WANT TO BE MEASURED BY. YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT THERE YET. BUT WE ARE MAKING GREAT PROGRESS. THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS HAVE BEEN REALLY GOOD FOR THE GOLF COURSE AND THE FACILITY, AND WANTING I THINK WE CAN ALL BE PROUD OF IS THAT WE DEFINITELY ARE COMPARABLE IF NOT BETTER THAN THOSE PROPERTIES WITH OUR GREENS , WHICH TENDS TO BE ONE OF THE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS FOR GOLFERS, SO, WITH ADDITIONAL DETAILED WORK, WHICH KING AND HIS TEAM , AND THROUGH OUR VP COLLINS, THINGS WE ARE WORKING INTO THE SCHEDULE AND OUR MANPOWER PROJECTIONS, WE WILL GET THERE. WE WILL GET THERE IN PRICE AND WE WILL GET THERE IN CONDITION COMPARISONS. WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. SINCE OUR LAST MEETING, BIG NEWS. WAY TO BURY THE LEAD, PAUL, WE WELCOME THE NEW SUPERINTENDENT, SHAWN CANNON, HAS JOINED THE TEAM HERE AT WATERVIEW. SEAN IS A VETERAN OF AMERICAN GOLF. HE HAS BROUGHT FRESH PERSPECTIVE, A NEW ENERGY TO WATERVIEW, AND WE ARE SEEING IMPROVEMENTS DAILY, SO WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO WELCOME SEAN HERE. HE HAS BEEN A LONGTIME MEMBER OF OUR TEAM, AND A REAL GOOD FIT IN TERMS OF HIS EXPERIENCE , AND YOU KNOW, THE UNIQUE CHALLENGES THAT WATERVIEW HAS. HE HAS THE TOOL CHEST, AND THE WHEREWITHAL TO ADDRESS THOSE THINGS AND KEEP US MOVING FORWARD. UM, WE MENTIONED THE GREENS, I THINK WE RECEIVED BEST IN CLASS GREEN CONDITIONS. WE HAVE UPDATED THE REACH AND OUR IRRIGATION SYSTEM, SO WE ARE ABLE TO WATER FURTHER THAN WE HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY. AND WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT THROUGH CONTROLLER REPLACEMENTS AND IRRIGATION REPLACEMENTS. IT IS AN ONGOING PROCESS, BUT WE HAVE THE PLAN MAPPED UP THERE AND ] TODAY. WE FINISHED THE PHASE ONE CAR PATH REPLACEMENTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT OUR LAST MEETING ON THE PRACTICE AREA AND THE TEA. THERE IS OBVIOUSLY MORE OF THAT TO COME. WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE LATER HERE IN THE PRESENTATION. OUR TEAM CONTINUES TO WORK ON THE DALLAS GRASS CONTROL , 40 ACRES HAVE BEEN TREATED , BUT IT IS ONGOING. WE ARE GOING TO GET THE WHOLE PROPERTY AND IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS, YOU CAN'T LET YOUR GUARD DOWN, YOU'VE JUST GOT TO KEEP WORKING ON IT AND TAKE IT IN SEGMENTS, AND 100% FOCUSED ON DOING THAT. AND THEN TO AMPLIFY WHAT OUR TEAM IS ABLE TO DO, WE PURCHASED $120,000 WORTH OF EQUIPMENT . WE ACQUIRED A SECOND
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INAUDIBLE ], WHICH GIVES US MORE EFFICIENCY AND FREQUENCY ON BEING ABLE TO MAINTAIN BUNKERS , AND THEN HAVE THOSE TEAMS BE ABLE TO GO INTO OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE DONE. AND WE ADDED TO OUR ROUGH UNIT A GREENS MOWER AND SPREADER TO ASSIST WITH THE APPLICATION OF THE VARIOUS FERTILIZERS AND CHEMICALS THAT WE NEED TO KEEP THE TURF WELL FED. AND MANAGE ANY OF THE UNDESIRABLE WEEDS AND GRASSES, ET CETERA. LOOKING AHEAD, WE HAVE BEEN APPLYING PRE-AND POST TRANSITION IN THE SPRING. I THINK WE ARE GOING TO BE IN A BETTER POSITION EVEN THEN WE WERE COMING ON LAST YEAR, JUST WITH SOME NEW CHEMISTRY , IS WHAT WE WILL CALL IT, THAT OUR TEAM HAS THE EXPERIENCE AND THE ABILITY TO PUT DOWN CONFIDENTLY, SO, REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO A TRANSITION THIS YEAR. IT MAY NOT BE COMPLETELY ERADICATED, THOUGH, AND THAT MAY BE A LOT TO ASK AND A LOT OF GOLF COURSES HAVE HAD TROUBLE THIS PAST YEAR, BUT I THINK WE ARE GOING TO BE EVEN IN BETTER SHAPE THAN WE WERE COMING ON LAST YEAR. THE GREENS COVERS ARE OUT AND STAGED AND PREPPED FOR US AS NEEDED. WE DO HAVE A PUMP STATION CONTROLLER THAT WENT DOWN AND WE DO NEED TO HAVE THAT REPLACED, AND WE WILL BE REPLACING THAT , IT'S ABOUT A $35,000 EXPENDITURE THAT IS IN THE PLAN HERE FOR THE NEXT COMING WEEKS. AND WE ALSO ARE PLANNING A PARKING LOT AND ENTRYWAY IRRIGATION UPGRADES. WE WANT TO ELEVATE THE FIRST IMPRESSION AS YOU FIRST PULL INTO WATERGATE, I THINK WE CAN GET A LOT OF BANG FOR OUR BUCK IN DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO MAKE IT MORE WELCOMING AND MORE ATTRACTIVE, SO, THAT IS IN THE PLANNING AND LIKELY SOMETHING THAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2024. UM, I KNOW KING, THE ADVISORY BOARD, MR. BAUER, AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES BETWEEN US IN THE ADVISORY BOARD, IS IN THE CITY OVER THE NEXT 12 TO 18 MONTHS WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PULL RESOURCES, BE THAT IN FINANCIAL MANPOWER, WHAT HAVE YOU, TO ADDRESS SOME PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE HIGH ON ALL OF OUR LISTS. THE PRIORITY WANTS FOR US WOULD BE INSTALLING CONCRETE TEE LINE IN THE BACK OF THE DRIVING RANGE TO ALLOW US TO BE OPEN EVEN RIGHT AFTER INCLEMENT WEATHER , WHEN THE GRASS IS TOO WET FROM A RAIN EVENT. LOOKING AT MORE SELECT CAR PATH REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS OUT THERE, AND THE THOUGHT IS THAT WE COULD -- I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE FORUM TO GET INTO THIS, CHRISTOPH, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THE CITY DOES HAVE A TEAM THAT WORKS ON CONCRETE SIDEWALKS , ET CETERA, AND IF THERE IS A DOWNTIME OR WHEN MANPOWER AND MATERIALS FREE UP, WE CAN WORK COLLECTIVELY TO TRY AND ADDRESS SOME OF THAT, THAT WILL BE AN ONGOING PROJECT AT THE GOLF COURSE, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE -- MAKING USE OF ANY AVAILABLE MANPOWER OR MATERIALS. THE OTHER THING THAT WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO DO IS A PHASED DRIVING RANGE LANDING AREA IMPROVEMENT. THE LANDING AREA OUT THERE IS ROUGH, IT IS GOING TO REQUIRE REGRADING, WHICH WILL REQUIRE TOPSOIL, SO WE CAN THEN FOLLOW ON WITH SEED OR SCRAPING. WE PROBABLY WOULD SCRAPE IN THE RANGE HERE, JUST BECAUSE WE WANT TO KEEP WITH THE TYPE OF BERMUDA STRAIN THAT WE HAVE, AND THAT WOULD BE OPTIMALLY DONE WITH SPRINGING. SO, TO DO ALL THAT, OUR PLAN IS -- WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN TALKING TO A GREATER , WE WOULD LOVE SOME ASSISTANCE IN TRYING TO FIND SOME TOPSOIL, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY DEVELOPERS OR FOLKS THAT ARE DOING MAJOR PROJECTS IN THE CITY THAT HAVE A NEED TO GET RID OF SOME TOPSOIL, BUT IN GETTING OTHER PROJECTS COMPLETED IN AND AROUND THE CITY. AND THEN YOU KNOW, WE DON'T -- IT IS LIKE AN EIGHT TO 10 TWO PHASES. PERHAPS WHAT WE DO IS WE DO ONE SIDE OF THE RANGE, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS THIS SPRING, AND THAT WE DO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RANGE, PERHAPS THAT SPRING. OPTIMUM TIME WOULD BE MADE. SO, WE DON'T HAVE TO CLOSE THE RANGE COMPLETELY FOR EIGHT TO 10 WEEKS. SO, THAT IS ONE THING THAT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT THEIR IN TERMS OF GETTING THIS DONE, BUT ALSO NOT HAVING[00:15:02]
TOO MUCH INTERRUPTION, BOTH TO THE CUSTOMER, AND ALSO BUSINESS INTERRUPTION. SO, SOME EXCITING THINGS TO CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT HERE. REVENUE PARTICIPATION AND RATE ARE GROWING AT WATERVIEW.WE ARE PROJECTING TO FINISH THE YEAR AT 45,000 ROUNDS. IT WILL BE SLIGHTLY DOWN TO LAST YEAR'S RECORD, AND THAT IS DUE TO THE FIRST QUARTER RAINS THAT WE HAD THIS YEAR. BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT AVERAGE REVENUE IS UP ALMOST FIVE DOLLARS , IT'S 11.6% COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, SO, WE ARE ABLE TO KEEP THE RATE UP WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS WE ARE DOING , YET WE ARE STILL ALSO GETTING THE OVER 2 1/2 MILLION DOLLARS, JUST TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE .
IN 2023, IT WAS A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNDER 2.5 MILLION, SO IT HAS BEEN A GOOD YEAR. AND CONTINUE TO BUILD ON THAT. 2024 WAS ALSO A GOOD YEAR FOR COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION IN NON-GOLF EVENTS. WE ARE STILL LOOKING TO INCREASE THIS LIST AND INCREASE PARTICIPATION, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION AND NON-GOLF PARTICIPATION AT THE FACILITY. AGAIN, I SAID THIS LAST TIME, BUT WE ENCOURAGE THE COMMUNITY TO UTILIZE OUR CAFE, OUR EVENT SPACE AND PAVILION, AND OUR OUTDOOR PATIO. AND THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF EVENTS THAT WE HAVE HOSTED IN 2024, YOU SHOULD ENCOURAGE YOUR NEIGHBORS TO REACH OUT TO KING AND HIS TEAM, AND WE WILL OBVIOUSLY KEEP DOING THE SAME. WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE CAPACITY AND THE FACILITY TO BE ABLE TO HOST THESE EVENTS. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING MUCH MORE OF THAT. AND THEN IN ADDITION, WE HOST OUR WEEKLY FIRST RESPONDERS AND MILITARY GOLF TOURNAMENT. I THINK THE LAST ONE WAS TWO WEEKS AGO?
>> 2 1/2 WEEKS AGO. AND YOU WILL START THAT BACK UP IN
APRIL? >> IN MARCH, OKAY. AND THEN KING IS THE GODFATHER OF TURKEY SHOOTS , HAD A TURKEY SHOOT OUT THERE THIS PAST THANKSGIVING, SO, KEEPING UP WITH A LONG TRADITION THAT KING LIKES TO BRING TO THE COURSES THAT HE OPERATES. AND THEN OF COURSE, WE CONTINUE TO HOST A NUMBER OF HIGH SCHOOL TEAMS, INCLUDING THE ROWLETT HIGH SCHOOL GOLF TEAM. AND WE THINK -- ROCKWELL WAS THE FIRST YEAR ?
>> YES. >> ALWAYS NICE TO HAVE TO HELP US GROW AGAIN. THE FUTURE. UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE BULLET POINTS PROBABLY LOOK SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR TO THE LAST GO AROUND, BUT THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS AND WE ARE LOOKING TO CONTINUE TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF THE GOLF COURSE AND THE FACILITY AND THE EXPERIENCE. WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO GROW PARTICIPATION I'M A BOTH ROUNDS, BUT ALSO NON-GOLF USE OF THE FACILITY. AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO GROW RATE ROUNDS, AND ONE OF THE WAYS WE CAN DO IT OR ARE SEEING THE THIRD -- FRUIT OF THAT IS MAINTAINING THE GOLF COURSE TO A HIGH CONDITION, SO WE BELIEVE THAT IS GOING TO BE A DIRECT CONTRIBUTOR TO CONTINUE TO GROW RATE AND ROUNDS. AND THEN OF COURSE, WHY WE ARE HERE AND WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE, I WANT TO BUILD ON OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY AND HOA AND COLLABORATING ON SHARED PROJECTS , AND COMMON GOALS LIKE THE FEW THAT WE INTRODUCED IN THE PAGES PRIOR. SO, WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. BRIAN INAUDIBLE ] TO ANSWER THINGS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THEIR AREA
AS WELL. >> SURE. AM I GOING TO GO FIRST? OKAY. FIRST, I WANT TO SAY THIS, I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE GOLF COURSE LIAISON NOW FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF, AND IT IS JUST SO HEARTENING TO SEE HOW TOGETHER WE -- WORKING THROUGH THESE CHALLENGES, WE ARE NOT THERE YET, I KNOW I R. BAUER HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB. KING, I LOVE WORKING WITH KING. I JUST GO AND HANG OUT IN HIS OFFICE, JUST ALWAYS PLAYING
>> IT IS DOING A GREAT JOB. SEAN, THE SUPERINTENDENT, IS -- WITHOUT THROWING SHADE ON ANY DEVIOUS SUPERINTENDENTS, WE HAVE FINALLY GOTTEN A REALLY GOOD SUPERINTENDENT THAT ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTANDS WHAT HE IS DOING, SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE JUST ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE, SO I THINK WE HAVE GOT A GOOD RELATIONSHIP TO WORK FROM. I THINK WE ALL SEE THERE
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ARE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE, WE ARE GOING TO WORK THROUGH THOSE THINGS. AT LEAST FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE VERY CONTENTIOUS, ANTAGONISTIC RELATIONSHIP THAT MAYBE WE HAD A YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS AGO, SO I WANT TO COMMEND YOU ALL ON THAT. A COUPLE THINGS I DO WANT TO ASK ABOUT, JUST IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, I PLAYED TODAY, SO I WAS KIND OF WATCHING SOME STUFF. ONE OF THE ISSUES -- AND SOME OF THESE ARE LONG-TERM STUFF, SO DON'T ANYBODY FREAK OUT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY GET BROUGHT UP. ONE OF THEM IS WE ARE HAVING A SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH THE SAND TRAPS. THOSE LINERS ARE LITERALLY IN SOME AREAS QUARTER INCH UNDER THE SAND. WE WERE PLAYING TODAY AND WE WERE SPENDING A LOT OF ENERGY MAKING SURE THAT WE WERE PAYING ATTENTION TO THE SAND, AND WE HAD A NUMBER OF PLACES WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAD TO MOVE THE BALL ON SAND TRAP LINER, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS INVOLVED. I'VE GOT TO BELIEVE IT IS MORE THAN JUST ADDING SAND, BUT IF YOU'RE PUTTING THINGS UP ON YOUR LIST, SOMETHING TO BE AWARE OF, BECAUSE I HEAR FROM A LOT OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS , THEY ARE ALL SHAKING THEIR HEADS, SO THAT IS ONE THING THAT I WOULD AT LEAST LIKE TO GET ONTO THE LIST. ON SOME OF THE FUTURE PLANS YOU HAD, SOME REALLY GOOD STUFF. THE ONE THAT YOU WERE TALKING 12 TO 18 MONTHS ON THE CONCRETE DRIVING RANGE PATH, WHICH I THINK IS JUST DESPERATELY NEEDED, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD SEE BY SPRING 2025? X YEAH, THAT'SSOMETHING WE COULD DO SOONER. >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE A HUGE WAY TO GO IN THE SPRING TO HAVE THAT, BECAUSE THAT IS KIND OF ONE OF THE MAJOR GRIPES FOR A LONG TIME, AND I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE A PHASED PLAN, AND THAT IS COOL, BUT WE NEED TO DO THAT.
YOU KIND OF TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CAR PASS , AND HOW YOU ARE WORKING WITH CHRISTOPH ON THOSE. THAT IS A PRETTY BIG JOB UP THERE. AS WELL AS TREES , WHICH AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A REAL IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION ON TREES HERE, THAT IS ONE OF THOSE ONES THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER ON. IT JUST -- THERE ARE JUST THINGS OUT THERE THAT HAVE TO BE DONE FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, SO, JUST MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS ON YOUR LIST. PARTICULARLY TREE REMOVAL
, TO BE MORE SPECIFIC. SO, >> THE GOLF COURSE WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO BE MORE OF A LINK STYLE GOLF COURSE, SO USUALLY, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TREES ON THE COURSE.
>> AND SOME OF THE HOLES, I THINK NUMBER FOUR IS ONE, IT IS JUST SITTING AND JUST A DARK HOLE BUT THAT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO PROBABLY SOONER THAN LATER HAVE A SORT OF PLAN AS TO WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO. WE HAVE GOT A WHOLE WINTER NOW, THEY REALLY BUDDED UP NICELY IN THE FALL, I WATCHED THEM, THEY WERE OUT THERE TODAY, INAUDIBLE ] . SO, THAT WAS AWESOME. AND THEN WHAT I'VE GOT, AND THIS IS JUST KIND OF SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN ON MY MIND, I HAVE TRIED TO CAVE A LITTLE, VERY BRIEFLY, SINCE YOU GUYS ARE HERE, I KIND OF WANT TO THROW IT OUT. I JUST FEEL LIKE THE FOOD SERVICE, BANQUET HALL IS A MISSED OPPORTUNITY.
IT IS JUST A MISSED OPPORTUNITY. AND IT IS A PROFIT CENTER, YOU KNOW, IT IS A PLACE THAT WE COULD MAKE MONEY, YOU CAN MAKE MONEY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS GOING TO TAKE TO LEVERAGE THAT BETTER. I KNOW YOU HAD A PRETTY GOOD YEAR IN TERMS OF EVENTS THERE, BUT THAT IS JUST A SPACE AND , YOU KNOW, OPERATION, JUST CRYING FOR SOMEBODY TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL EVER GO OUT OR YOU JUST GET A FOOD TRUCK THAT ONCE A BRICK-AND-MORTAR PLACE TO START OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, AND ACTUALLY BRING IN SOME PEOPLE TO LEASE A KITCHEN, THERE ARE A LOT OF WAYS TO DO IT, BUT I JUST HOPE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS ON YOUR RADAR, BECAUSE ONE, AS A COMMUNITY, AND AS A PROFIT CENTER FOR ALL OF US, I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT LONG-TERM WE REALLY NEED TO
LOOK AT AND LEVERAGE. >> WE HAD OUR FOOD AND BEVERAGE TEAM RECENTLY TO BASICALLY DO THEIR COMPETITIVE ANNOUNCEMENTS OR COME UP WITH WHAT TYPE OF END -- MENU WE SHOULD BE ROLLING SOME CHANGES OUT TO YOUR MENU.
>> SOME CHANGES ALREADY. >> BUT YOU ARE RIGHT ON THAT.
AND WE HAVE LOOKED INTO AND I HAVE TALKED TO CONGRESSMAN ,
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INAUDIBLE ] WE MIGHT HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN AND TRYING TO SELL THAT ROOM OUT. WE HAVE OTHER GOLF COURSES THAT INAUDIBLE ] , SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT ASPECT. THERE ARE STILL SOME THINGS THAT CAN IMPROVE BACK THERE, TOO. CHANGE THE>> SOME THINGS WE HAVE TO DO BEFORE STEP-BY-STEP, ALONG WITH SAND TRAPS, ALONG WITH DIFFERENT THINGS, QUARTER COMING UP, SO TRAP. SO, OF THIS, A LOT OF THIS IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF COUNCIL INAUDIBLE ] . I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE KIND OF AWARE DIRECTIONALLY OF WHAT THE RELATIONSHIP LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE STILL ASKING FOR.
THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY IT WORKS, AND THERE IS A LOT TO DO . TANGIBLE, TANGIBLE, POSITIVE PROGRESS, PARTICULARLY IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS, JUST AS BEEN A NIGHT AND DAY FROM WHERE WE WERE IN MAY. THAT IS MY TWO CENTS.
>> ANYONE ELSE? >> YEAH, SO, JUST THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, VERY IN-DEPTH. I DID HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS WITH PASS AND YOU MENTIONED THAT PHASE ONE WAS PRETTY MUCH WRAPPED UP. HOW MANY PHASES ARE THERE IN TOTAL AND WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE COURSE IS PHASE ONE VERSUS
>> PHASE ONE WAS PROBABLY 4% .
>> PHASE ONE SOUNDS GREAT UNTIL YOU GET THE CONTEXT BEHIND IT, IT IS NOT SO GREAT. SAME QUESTION WITH THE IRRIGATION UPGRADES. YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAVE DONE SOME DISTANCE MODIFICATIONS TO THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM. WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE COURSE HAVE YOU UPGRADED AND WHAT IS WHAT?
>> THAT'S PROBABLY LIKE -- WE ARE TALKING PROBABLY LESS THAN 10% IS WHAT IS NEEDED TO UPGRADE. REMAINDER.
>> BASICALLY ALL OF THAT IS DONE.
>> OH YEAH, YEAH. THERE WAS PROBABLY -- I'M GOING TO MESS THE NUMBER UP, BUT MAYBE LIKE 8% OF SOME OF THE HEADS WEREN'T SPREADING AS MUCH AS THEY NEEDED TO.
>> A LOT OF HEADS ON THE GOLF COURSE.
>> 2000 HEADS. >> WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THOSE AND WE ARE MAKING THE PROGRESS. THAT WILL ALL BE DONE BY THE TIME WE HAVE TO WATER IT AGAIN IN THE SPRING.
>> OKAY, GREAT. ON THAT POINT, ARE WE PREPARED FOR ANOTHER DROUGHT SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD LAST YEAR?
>> YEAH. YEAH. >> I SAY WE ARE BETTER
>> BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT REALLY SET US BACK, FROM THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD, JUST WE WENT SO LONG AND OF COURSE THE CONDITION IT WAS, IT TAKES SO LONG TO RECOVER, SO WE ARE FINALLY TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE RECOVERED. RECOVERING. WE
DON'T WANT IT TO HAPPEN AGAIN. >> THE IN PLAY AREAS, IF WE HAD ANOTHER SEVERE DROUGHT LIKE THAT, BUT IN PLAY AREAS WOULD BE FLOODED.
GOING TO BE THE CHALLENGE WITH A DROUGHT THAT BIG.
>> AND WHEN WE MEET IN A YEAR OR TWO, THE DISCUSSION THAT WE MAY COME BACK TO HAVE AND SAY, HEY, THOSE ORIGINALLY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THAT WAY, THERE WILL BE MORE DROPTOP WHEN THAT HAPPENS, BUT IT ALSO FRAMES THE GOLF COURSE REAL WELL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER. WE ARE ON TO THE OTHER THINGS FIRST.
>> THERE ARE STILL SOME TACTICAL CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S MORE THOUGHT INTO THE OVERALL STRATEGY.
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EQUIPMENT THAT HAD BEEN PURCHASED, IS THERE MORE EQUIPMENT THAN IS NEEDED AT THIS POINT?>> THAT WOULD BE AS WE GO. RIGHT NOW, EVERYTHING IS UP AND RUNNING. A FANTASTIC MECHANIC DOWN THERE WHO HAS BEEN WITH US FOR 10 YEARS AND KEEPS EVERYTHING RUNNING. ALL OUR EQUIPMENT IS BEING REPAIRED FOR THE SPRING AND SUMMER, SO INAUDIBLE ] SOME ARE STILL GOING OUT, BUT WE GOT A LOT OF WHAT WE NEEDED LAST YEAR THAT WE HADN'T HAD HERE IN YEARS.
IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER SMALL PIECES THAT WE MIGHT PICK UP, INAUDIBLE ] THEN I WILL JUST GO AND TALK TO BRIAN . X AND THE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM IS BETTER THAN IT WAS BEFORE, SO THAT LEADS ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION, WHICH IS WAS THE PUMP STATION CONTROLLER FAILING A SURPRISE? WAS THAT A SURPRISE FAILURE OR DID YOU ALL ANTICIPATE THAT THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN? $35,000 PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IS PRETTY SIZABLE, SO JUST WANT TO ASK.
>> I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE KIND OF DIFFICULT FOR ME TO MAKE -- IF YOU'RE REALLY CORRECT ANSWER ON THAT.
INAUDIBLE ] WHEN IT FIRST STARTED THE RIGHT PERSON
>> WE FOUND A LOT OF THINGS LAST YEAR THAT HAD TO BE REDONE
AND FIXED. SO -- >> KIND OF LIKE HAVING A 10-YEAR-OLD REALLY.
OF THE BIG ISSUE. >> IT IS PART OF THE BIGGER
ISSUE. >> AS WE WERE TALKING BEFORE THE LAST MEETING, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT REDOING THE POOL INAUDIBLE ]. IT'S LIKE CHUMP CHANGE, BUT THOSE ARE THINGS WE'VE GOT TO KEEP UP AND GET THOSE THINGS FIXED. AND WE ARE ON THE WAY TO GETTING THOSE THINGS ALL THAT TAKING CARE OF
JUNE. >> I THINK MY LAST QUESTION MAY BE KIND OF A HYBRID QUESTION OR COMMENT FOR STOCK, WHICH IS IN REGARD TO THE CONCRETE REPAIRS, REPLACEMENTS, ET CETERA. THE CITY RIGHT NOW HAS A TREMENDOUS NEED FOR UPKEEP OF EXISTING MAINTENANCE OF ROADWAYS, SIDEWALKS, ALLEYS, ET CETERA.
THIS IS KIND OF AN OPERATIONAL THING, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THE CAPACITY, AND I WOULD RATHER HAVE OUR TEAMS FOCUSED ON OUR STREETS AND OUR ALLEYS AND OUR SIDEWALKS VERSUS THE GOLF COURSE, IF THERE IS DOWNTIME, FANTASTIC. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE DOWNTIME IS GOING TO COME FROM, HONESTLY.
SO, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR THOUGHT ARE ON THAT
OR IF YOU HAVE ANY. >> OF COURSE I DO. ALWAYS.
>> IF SO, WHAT DO THE FINANCES LOOK LIKE?
>> THE SHORT ANSWER IS WE HAVEN'T COMMITTED TO THAT.
BECAUSE CERTAINLY, WE ALWAYS STAY OPEN TO POSSIBILITIES IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE AGC. YOU KNOW, THIS CANNOT BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO IN A SYSTEMATIC FASHION , THAT GOES TO YOUR POINT, THIS GROUP IS BEING STOOD UP FOR THE EXPRESS PURPOSE OF ROADS, ALLEYS, AND SIDEWALKS. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, THERE ARE MOMENTS IN BETWEEN JOBS, THEY JUST ARE, IT HAPPENS, NO MATTER IF YOU ARE A PRIVATE COMPANY OR AN IN-HOUSE GROUP LIKE WHAT WE ARE STANDING UP, WHERE THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITY. AGAIN, IS IT GOING TO HAPPEN? WE DON'T KNOW, BUT WE CERTAINLY REMAIN OPEN TO THE POSSIBILITY. BUT OBVIOUSLY, WE RECOGNIZE WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS?
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US.
>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU ALL. ALL RIGHT,
[4B. Discuss and provide feedback on amendments to Chapters 77 and 98 related to tree preservation and mitigation.]
OUR NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSSING FEEDBACK ON AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 77 AND 98 RELATED TO TREE PRESERVATION AND>> OKAY, MAYOR, COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US BACK HERE
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AGAIN TONIGHT TO REVISIT A TOPIC THAT WE TALKED ABOUT NOT TOO LONG AGO IN CONJUNCTION WITH REFORESTATION POLICY.INAUDIBLE ] WE TOLD YOU WE WERE GOING TO BRING BACK THE RECOMMENDED REVISIONS TO INCORPORATE REFORESTATION POLICY, BUT AS WELL AS RECOMMENDATIONS AND CHANGES TO THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE. SO, JUST TO RECAP, OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE -- OUR CURRENT GOVERNMENT ORDINANCE HAS TWO SEPARATE CHAPTERS REQUIRES INAUDIBLE ] PROTECTED -- PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING THAT IS NOT INCLUDED ON OUR PROHIBITED PLANT LIST, WHICH IS JUST A FEW SPECIFIC SPECIES. WE ALSO REQUIRE A TREE MITIGATION -- SORRY, TREE REMOVAL PERMIT FOR ANYTHING OVER THREE TREES, SO SOMEBODY EVEN ON THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL HOMES WANTS TO DELIVER -- REMOVE FOUR TREES, IT REQUIRES A PERMIT. THE CURRENT PROCESS, EVEN IF THEY ARE WILLING TO MITIGATE THE TREES IN TOTAL BY PLANTING STILL REQUIRES TO GO THROUGH COUNCIL. THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS TO THAT . THAT IS ONE THING WE ARE GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS EVENING. WE GIVE CREDITS FOR THE TREES THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO PRESERVE OR TO REPLANT, AND THAT IS CONFLICTING ON THE TWO SECTIONS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY. IN ONE PLACE, IT GIVES ONE AMOUNT OF CREDIT, AND THE OTHER ONE, HE GIVES A DIFFERENT AMOUNT OF CREDIT, SO OBVIOUSLY, WHEN DEVELOPERS BRING FORWARD, THE SAME THIS SECTION, IT SAYS YOU ONLY REQUIRE ONE-TO-ONE VERSUS ONE AND A HALF TO ONE, SO THAT IS A LITTLE BIT OF THE CLEANUP THAT WE WANT TO DO. SO, ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT WHEN SOMEBODY COMES IN WITH A PLAN FOR REMOVAL OF TREES ON WHATEVER SCALE, WHATEVER MAGNITUDE THAT DEVELOPMENT MIGHT BE, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE TOTAL THAT IS AGAIN, ANYTHIN OVER THAT EIGHT INCHES.
] AND WE GIVE ANY CREDITS THAT THEY HAVE FOR SAVING TREES OR REPLANTING, AND THEN THE TOTAL AMOUNT , THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PAY THE FEE, AND THAT ONE 2167 IS PER CALIBER INCH ON ANY TREE THAT THEY ARE NOT MITIGATING BY PLANTING. IN CHAPTER 98, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT SECTION OF ORDINANCES AND HAS A LITTLE BIT OF THE POPULATION AND THAT ONE -- INAUDIBLE ] CREDIT FOR PRESERVED TREES IN CHAPTER 77, HE CURRENTLY GETS A ONE TO ONE INCH FOR PRESERVED TREES, SO ANY TREES THAT STAY ON THE LOT OR ON THE SITE, WE GIVE A 1-1 INCH CREDIT FOR REPLACEMENT. IN CHAPTER 98, WE GIVE A TWO INCHES CREDIT FOR ANY TREE, REGARDLESS OF THE SIZE OF THE TREE. SO, AGAIN, JUST KIND OF A CONFLICTING INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE THERE. SO, JUST TO TALK THROUGH THE PROPOSED INAUDIBLE ] BASED ON CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE HAD AND REVIEW OF MANY, MANY OTHER CITY TREE ORDINANCES, WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE LIST OF CITIES , PRIMARILY FOCUSING ON THOSE THAT ARE TREE CITIES , SCENIC CITIES, THOSE THAT ] TREE CITY USA ORGANIZATION, SO ALL OF THOSE WERE KIND OF OUR TARGETS , AND THAT WE LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT THOSE WITHIN DFW AND TRIED TO FOCUS ON THOSE, EITHER IN PROXIMITY TO US OR IN SIZE, TO COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS HERE. SO, I AM SORRY, THAT TOP LINE IS REVERSED HERE, SO SORRY.
PROTECTED TREES, EIGHT INCHES, WE ARE PROPOSING THAT THAT CHANGES TO SIX INCHES. SORRY. I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT FLIP-FLOPPED THERE. WE ARE PROPOSING OUR REDUCTION IN SIZE FOR PROTECTED TREE TO SIX INCHES. WE DON'T CURRENTLY REQUIRE ON THE TREE MITIGATION PLANS THAT WE RECEIVED A REVIEW HISTORICALLY THAT THEY IDENTIFY THOSE TREES, SO IT IS HARD FOR ME TO SAY HOW MANY ADDITIONAL WHAT HAPPENS IN THAT RANGE OF THE SIX TO EIGHT INCH TREE, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE RECORD OF IT, WE ARE NOT REQUIRING THEY IDENTIFY THEM, SO I DON'T HAVE A WAY TO TELL YOU WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, BUT I THINK THAT IT IS WELL WITHIN THE NORM, ESPECIALLY IN CITIES THAT HAVE RELEASED PAID SPECIAL ATTENTION TO ORDINANCES TO LOWER THAT DOWN TO SIX INCHES. I THINK I AM LOOKING AT ABOUT 20 DIFFERENT CITIES. THERE WAS ONE THAT WENT DOWN TO FOUR INCHES.
BUT THEY GIVE A LOT OF OTHER OFFSETTING THINGS KIND OF AN EXCHANGE. THE MAJORITY WERE SIX TO EIGHT INCH RANGE. SOME WERE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, BUT THAT WAS KIND OF WITHIN THE NORM OF SIX TO EIGHT INCHES. UM, WE ALSO ARE PROPOSING THAT OF THE TWO DIFFERENT RATIOS THAT ARE LISTED , THAT WE STICK WITH THE ONE THAT REQUIRES MORE PLANTING, SO WE WOULD REMOVE THE 1-1 RATIO AND MAINTAIN THE REQUIREMENT THAT THEY PLANT 1.5 INCHES PER ONE INCH REMOVED. SO, AS THE SPEAKER EARLIER SAID, SOME CITIES HAVE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF TREES, WHETHER IT IS UP TO A CERTAIN NUMBER OF INCHES, THEN THOSE ARE REPLACED AT ONE RATIO, AND THAT A HIGHER RATIO FOR THE LARGER TREES , SPECIMEN TREES, WHATEVER THE CITIES MIGHT CALL
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IT, SO, WITHOUT HAVING A REALLY GOOD OR RECENT ANALYSIS OF WHAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY AND HOW MANY OF THOSE LARGER TREES WE MIGHT HAVE, INSTEAD OF DOING A 1-1 FOR ALL THE TREES, MAYBE A 2-1 FOR LARGER TREES, OUR PROPOSAL IS HERE THAT WE WOULD JUST INCORPORATE JUST A 1.5 INCH TO ONE RATIO FOR ALL OF THE TREES. CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE ARE OPEN TO BUT IF YOU HAVE OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT, ADMINISTRATION AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE DOING INAUDIBLE ], PROTECTING WHAT WE HAVE, THAT WAS A PROPOSAL HERE.WE HAVE ALREADY ON THE BOOKS A FOUR INCH FOR PLANTINGS. SOME CITIES ALLOW PEOPLE TO PLANT SMALLER TREES FOR MITIGATION, BUT I THINK THAT IS A PRETTY GOOD MINIMUM SIZE THERE , KIND OF LEAVE IT AT FOUR INCHES, SO WE ARE NOT PROPOSING A CHANGE THERE. THE CREDIT FOR SAVING TREES, I HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME WITH THE SAVED TREES BECAUSE IT IS PRETTY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO EITHER SHOW ME THAT YOU HAVE ACTUALLY ALTERED YOUR PLAN TO SAVE THE TREE, UNLESS YOU CAN PHYSICALLY SHOW A ROAD CURVING AROUND A TREE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT IS EASY FOR A DEVELOPER TO MAKE THE CASE WE PUT THE TREE ON THE SIDE TO SAVE THOSE TREES, BUT IT DIDN'T REALLY SO, IT IS KIND OF DIFFICULT TO PIN DOWN. I LOOKED AT A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS TO TRY TO FIND ONE THAT GAVE A BETTER DEFINITION OF IT THAT MAY BE EASIER TO INTERPRET, AND REALLY, IT WAS JUST ALL OVER THE BOARD AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAS A GREAT WAY THAT THEY HAVE MANAGED THAT, WHAT I AM PROPOSING IS THAT INSTEAD OF A 1-1 RATIO OR EVEN TWO INCH CREDIT FOR THE SAFE TREES, THAT WE DO A HALF INCH CREDIT FOR THE SAFE TREES. AND ANOTHER THING , TO CONSIDER THE ADDITION OF SAFE TREES THAT ARE BELOW SIX INCHES. SO, IN THE FOUR TO SIX INCH RANGE, WHERE WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY CONSIDER A PROTECTED TREE, THEY WOULDN'T BE REQUIRED TO MITIGATE IF THEY REMOVE THOSE TREES, BUT IF THEY CAN SHOW THEY HAVE BEEN SAVING A NUMBER OF TREES WOULD GIVE A HALF INCH CREDIT PER CALIBER INCH FOR THOSE TREES AS WELL. AND THEN KIND OF A FINAL POINT, CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE, WE CURRENTLY DO GIVE EXEMPTIONS FOR A FEW THINGS, BUT WE WILL BE ADDING IN THE PROPOSED COLUMN AN EXEMPTION FOR CITY CONTRACTS OR CITY -- THAT IS ACROSS THE BOARD, AND I THINK EVERY, IF NOT EVERY ORDINANCE THAT I FOUND, WE HAVE NOT INCLUDED THAT IN OUR ORDINANCE HERE, AND SO, WE DID HAVE EXCEPTIONS FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY AND FOR UTILITY , FRANCHISE UTILITIES AND THAT SORT OF THING, BUT WE DO HAVE THE EXEMPTION FOR TO DO THAT KIND OF WORK, AND SO, WE ARE PROPOSING THAT WE ADD THAT IN. FOR RIGHT OF WAYS, BUT ALSO FOR EASEMENTS AND OTHER THINGS. WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO MITIGATE THOSE TREES. AND FINAL CHANGES IN THIS ORDINANCE AND CHAPTER 98 WHERE WE WILL BE LUMPING ALL OF THE TREE MITIGATION ORDINANCE SECTION TOGETHER, AND CHAPTER 98, IT HAS REFORESTATION FUND, THIS IS AN EXISTING SECTION 98, INAUDIBLE ] , I JUST REALLY ASSESS THE FEES AND DEPOSIT MONEY INTO THE FUND, BUT DOESN'T REALLY SAY WHAT WE DO WITH IT, AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT INCLUDING KIND OF A GENERIC STATEMENT ABOUT COMPLYING WITH THE REFORESTATION POLICY, WHICH CHANGES UP THERE. IT SAYS IT WAS MAINTAINED BY DEPARTMENT, AND REALLY, THAT REFERENCE WAS ADVISORY BOARD, WHICH SERVES AS A TREE BOARD , TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE TREE POLICIES OF THE CITY. JUST TO RECAP, THE REFORESTATION POLICY, BULLET POINTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THESE ARE KIND OF A FIVE OR SIX -- THE FIRST FIVE CATEGORIES THAT INCLUDE A NUMBER OF THINGS UNDERNEATH THEM. SO, PLANNING TREES ON CITY-OWNED PROPERTY, THAT COULD BE CITY FACILITIES, IT COULD BE A LONG TRAILS , OR ANY CITY PROPERTY DISTRIBUTING PLANTS . FOR PLANTING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, LIKE INAUDIBLE ], ANY OTHER EVENTS LIKE THAT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, OR APPLICATION PROGRAMS , OR JUST ANY NUMBER OF THINGS COULD FALL UNDER THAT CATEGORY, EXISTING TREE MAINTENANCE, THIS COULD BE TO HIRE AN ARBORIST OR MAINTENANCE AND ALL OF THE EXISTING PARKS AND OTHER TREES THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY, AND IT COULD BE EDUCATION FOR TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN TREES. - AND STORE MITIGATION. STORE MANAGEMENT MITIGATION, THIS IS SOMETHING WE SAW IN A COUPLE OF OTHER REFORESTATION POLICIES
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THAT WE REALLY LIKED, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE STORM EVENTS HERE WHERE WE LOST A NUMBER OF TREES. JUST TO SET SOME MONEY ASIDE ANNUALLY FOR THAT PURPOSE IF THE NEED ARISES. THE FIFTH ONE IS REALLY INVENTORY ANALYSES, OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT HELP US TO PLAN FOR TREE CANOPY IN THE FUTURE. WE ARE NOT PROPOSING THAT WE LAUNCH ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE HAVE JUST KIND OF PUT THOSE THINGS TOGETHER IN THIS REFORESTATION POLICY. AND THEN SIX OTHER CATEGORIES, THE WAY THAT WE HAVE TO DRAFT CHANGES IN THE ORDINANCES IN THE REFORESTATION POLICY OR AT THE DIRECTION OF CITY COUNCIL, SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COMES UP AS AN ELIGIBLE EXPENSE FOR THE FUNDS, BUT IS NOT NECESSARILY STATED IN THE POLICY, THEN YOU AS THE POLICYMAKERS WOULD GET TO DIRECT SUCH INAUDIBLE ], WE WOULD TAKE THESE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD TO ASSESS WITH THEM THE PROPOSED CHANGES, AS WELL AS ANY SPECIFIC PLANT LISTS OR PRINTED PLANT LISTS AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE OKAY WITH THAT.WE TALKED ABOUT BRINGING PERSON, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A GREAT LANDSCAPE, ARCHITECT, OR ARBORIST ONSET, WE ARE LOOKING AT OTHER CITIES AND THE PLANTS THEY INCLUDE IN THEIR LISTS. THE ONES THAT ARE UPDATED IN MORE RECENT YEARS, JUST BECAUSE THE SPECIES AND PREFERRED PLANTS HAVE CHANGED OVER TIME, BUT WE ARE REALLY NOT TEXT ON THAT, WE DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE ON STUFF THAT MIGHT BE MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THE PLANTS.
>> IS EXPERTISE. SO, WE WOULD GET FEEDBACK FROM THEM, MAKE SURE THEY ARE OKAY WITH THE CHANGES OR HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK THAT WE WOULD INCORPORATE INTO A DRAFT ORDINANCE. THIS WOULD AMEND CHAPTER 77 TO REMOVE ALL OF THOSE REFERENCES OUT OF THE CHAPTER, WHICH REQUIRES COMMISSION, AND CITY COUNCIL, AND THEN BACK TO THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING
SEE FIT. >> THERE IS ONE THING YOU MISSED, WHICH IS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ADDING IN -- ACTUALLY, IT WAS FUNNY, WHEN YOU AND I COMMUNICATED, SOMETHING WE WERE SUPPOSED TO ADD IN FOR THE REFORESTATION MONEY IS A PROPOSAL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO ALLOW US TO INCORPORATE PARKS CAPITAL. I DON'T WANT TO INCLUDE PARKS MAINTENANCE, BECAUSE I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE A CONSIDERED USE FOR THIS FUND, BUT WE WANTED TO ASK YOU TO CONSIDER ALLOWING US TO ENHANCE PARKS TO CAPITAL AND OTHER RELATED EXPENDITURES THROUGH THIS FUND, SO THAT SHOULD BE ON THIS LIST AS WELL, YOU CAN ADD IT. YEAH, NOT JUST TREES, BUT ACTUAL -- PARKS , PARK IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH IS DISTINCT FROM NUMBER ONE, SO I WANT TO DRAW THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
THERE. >> I WANTED TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT IT, SO IT DOESN'T FEEL THAT WE ARE JUST NOT BEING
CLEAR ABOUT OUR INTENTIONS. >>
THAT WE ARE MAKING THE CHANGE. >> JUST SO I AM CLEAR, THAT IS PRETTY MUCH OPEN-ENDED THEN? PARKS MONEY?
>> OPEN-ENDED TO THE DEGREE THAT WE WOULD COME BACK AND INAUDIBLE ] ULTIMATELY BRING IT BACK TO THE PARKS BOARD AND TO CITY COUNCIL, YEAH. FOR YOUR APPROVAL AND THOSE CAPITAL EXPENDITURES AND ENHANCEMENTS.
>> I GUESS WHAT I AM GOING FOR IS AT LEAST SOMEWHAT TIED TO PARKS, TIED TO TREES, OR IS IT PRETTY OPEN-ENDED?
>> IT IS OPEN-ENDED, IN MY MIND, YES, SIR, IT WAS, IT WAS MEANT TO ENHANCE THE PARKS. I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE CONTEMPLATED THIS DIRECT TIE THAT IT WAS RELATED TO A TREE OR REFORESTATION, BUT REALLY THE PARK ENHANCEMENT
>> AND THAT IS FINE. ONE OF THE REASONS WE ENDED UP WITH SO MUCH MONEY KIND OF LOCKED OURSELVES IN A BOX, SO YEAH, I THINK THAT IS A
GOOD IDEA, I THINK. >> JUST TO BE CLEAR, THERE WILL NOW ONLY BE ONE PLACE IN THE ORDINANCES WHERE THE TREES ARE?
>> YES. IT'S CONFUSING BOTH FOR THE APPLICANTS AND FOR THE STAFF TO REVIEW DAVITT IN MULTIPLE PLACES, SO WITH RESPECT TO THE GOLF COURSE, FROM EARLIER, YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT THE ORDINANCE TO SEE WHAT PERMITS WOULD BE NECESSARY, THERE IS NO EXEMPTION FOR GOLF COURSE IN CHAPTER 77, BUT IN CHAPTER 98, YOU HAVE THAT EXCEPTION, SO,
INAUDIBLE ] >> SO, WE WOULD BE TAKING CHAPTER 77 AND PUTTING EVERYTHING INTO CHAPTER 98
POINT >> ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO CLARIFY, AND MAYBE I JUST MISHEARD YOU, BUT I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT THIS APPLIED TO HOMEOWNERS, BUT ANY REFERENCE
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TO THE EXEMPTION FOR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE TWO ACRES. DOES IT OR DOES IT NOT -->> IT DOES APPLY TO -- IT IS AN EXISTING OCCUPIED HOME UNDER TWO ACRES, WE DO HAVE AN EXCEPTION, YES.
>> 77 SAYS SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED . SO, WE ARE KEEPING THE LANGUAGE OF 77, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> YEAH, SINGLE-FAMILY. >> BECAUSE RESIDENT COULD BE LIKE A DUPLEX, AS LONG AS THEY USE IT AS THEIR HOME.
>> PART OF THIS IS TO FIND OUT YOUR PREFERENCE, THAT IS PART OF WHY WE ARE BRINGING THIS. SO, IF THERE WAS A PREFERENCE, WE WANT TO HEAR IT. IT WAS DO YOU PREFER DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY OR EXPLICITLY THAN --
>> AN EXEMPTION FROM THE MITIGATION?
>> YES. >> IT SAYS WE CAN'T REQUIRE A PERSON TO PAY A MITIGATION FEE FOR A REMOVED TREE IF THE TREE IS LOCATED ON PROPERTY THAT IS AN EXISTING ONE FAMILY OR TWO FAMILY DWELLING, A PERSON'S RESIDENCE, AND IT IS LESS THAN 10 INCHES IN DIAMETER AT 4.5 FEET, SO --
>> AND MOST OF THE CITIES HAVE KIND OF LUMPED IN SINGLE-FAMILY TOWNHOME AND DUPLEX, SO IF YOU WANT TOWNHOMES TO NOT BE PART OF THAT, I WOULD BE OPEN TO HEARING THAT, OTHERWISE THAT
>> SO, JUST KIND OF FOLLOWING ALONG STATE LAW ON THAT.
LITTLE BIT HERE, I JUST KNOW THIS FROM EXPERIENCE, SO, I LIVE IN AN OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD, AND 20 YEARS INTO WHEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS BUILT, THREE, 400-YEAR-OLD PECAN TREES BACK THERE , THERE ACTUALLY IN PEOPLE'S YARDS, THAT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WHEN THEY PUT THEM, THEY HAVE A CITY DESIGNATION AS A PRESERVATION TREE , HISTORIC TREE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. I'M JUST BRINGING THAT UP , AND HAVE YOU RUN ACROSS THAT, SEEN THAT? I MEAN, THAT WAS VERY SPECIFIC.
CITIES HAVE OVER A CERTAIN SIZE, SPECIFICALLY WITH A
CERTAIN SPECIES. >> THERE ARE 300-YEAR-OLD PECAN
TREES THAT ARE 50 FEET TALL. >> AS A HISTORIC TREE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT MAY HAVE HAPPENED
IN THE PAST. >> THAT IS KIND OF WHERE I AM
GOING. >> ONLY UNDER 10 INCHES. SO, A TREE OF THAT AGE --
] >> YEAH, BUT I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A FILE SOMEWHERE THAT LISTS THEM ALL OR IF IT IS JUST KIND OF A HANDSHAKE DEAL. I AM BRINGING IT UP, JUST YOU MIGHT LOOK INTO IT , JUST SO WE CAN CLEAR THAT
UP A LITTLE BIT >> WHAT SHE CAN DO IS ADD A PROVISION IN HERE, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE HAVE KIND OF PUSHED AROUND A LITTLE BIT, SO I THINK PART OF THIS CONVERSATION IS TO GET THIS FEEDBACK, SO WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT, AND REMEMBER, TO HER POINT AND WHAT IS NEXT, THIS IS GOING TO MAKE THE ROUNDS. WE WANTED YOUR FEEDBACK WITH THIS.
>> OKAY. TWO POINTS, SO, I APPRECIATE THE DESIRE TO HAVE THE MITIGATION KIND OF BE CONSISTENT AMONG ALL TREE SIZES THAT MAKES SENSE, BUT WHEN WE GET INTO SOME LARGER, REALLY LARGER TREES, THERE ALMOST HAS TO BE A SCALING, SLIDING-SCALE OF LINEAR SCALE, BUT YOU GET TREES THAT ARE HUGE, THERE'S A PRETTY TREMENDOUS THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT, SO PERSONALLY, THAT IS SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. I WAS GIVEN THE EXAMPLE THAT THEY HAD A TREE THAT WAS 44 1/2 INCHES AND IT REQUIRED A MITIGATION APARTMENT, SO IT WAS HUGE, BUT THAT IS A TREE THAT IS ALMOST FOUR FOOT IN DIAMETER. I MEAN, THAT IS A TREMENDOUSLY LARGE TREE. IF WE HAVE ANY OF THOSE IN THE CITY, THE DEVELOPER CAN REMOVE AND JUST PAY THAT 1-1. TO ME, THEY CAN PLAN 11 FOUR INCH TREES, AND THEY HAVE MITIGATED IT, WHEN IN REALITY,
THAT AGE. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, PART OF THIS IS, AGAIN, FEEDBACK. SO, ARE THERE ENOUGH NODS IN THE ROOM? WE WILL PUT THAT IN THERE IN OUR NEXT
DRAFT. >> IF I COULD JUST USE AN ILLUSTRATION THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT , ESPECIALLY -- I GUESS PART OF THE QUESTION IS HOW PENAL DO WE WANT TO MAKE
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THE MITIGATION, IN PARTICULAR FOR LARGER TREES, WHICH I AGREE WITH YOU, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THE COLUMBIA PARK PROJECT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, THEY ARE LOOKING AT MITIGATION. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT IS HIGH, CONSIDERING THAT IT IS 10 ACRES OF HARDWOOD, BOTTOM FOREST, THEY'RE SQUAWKING ABOUT IT, BUT ME PERSONALLY, AS WE ARE DESIGNING THIS, I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MAKING IT -- I MEAN, YOU CAN'T MAKE IT RIDICULOUSLY PENAL, BUT STILL, THERE IS A COST.>> I WANT TO MAKE IT HARD FOR THEM TO THINK NOT JUST TWICE, BUT THINK ABOUT IT A LONG TIME BEFORE
>> THE ALTERNATIVE SHOULD BE THERE TO BUILD THAT TREE OR THE SIDEWALK AROUND THAT TREE OR BUILD A HOME SLIGHTLY OFFSET, SO THE TREE CAN REMAIN. THERE'S ALWAYS A WAY A
DEVELOPER CAN REDESIGN. >> THE EASIER ONE FOR HERE, THEY CODED IT AT 9000 SQUARE FEET, WAS THE ORIGINAL LOT SIZE, AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE MITIGATION. THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY THE MITIGATION, AND THEIR CHANGES -- 3000 SQUARE FOOT, BASICALLY A UNIT NOW. THIS COULD WORK. YOU CAN SAVE TREES WHEN YOU'VE GOT 9000 SQUARE FOOT LOT SPEEDIER JUST PUTTING A ROW OF HOUSES UP AGAINST HERE, YOU JUST CAN'T SAY INAUDIBLE ]. SO, IN ONE WAY, IT IS SOMEWHAT -- WHETHER THEY WANT TO DO IT OR NOT, IT DOES DIRECT BEHAVIOR TOWARDS IS IT REALLY WORTH IT, CAN WE MAKE 9000 SQUARE FOOT LOT'S AND SELL THE HOUSES FOR 800,000 INSTEAD OF 350,000, WHATEVER.
TO YOUR POINT, THERE ARE WAYS TO WORK WITH THEM, BUT YET, I JUST THINK THE TREE SHOULD BE MORE PENAL. PROGRESSIVELY MORE PENAL.
>> MY LAST QUESTION OR POINT WOULD BE -- IN GOING THROUGH THE DIFFERENT CODES THAT YOU LOOKED AT, WAS THERE ANY MITIGATION OF CLIMATE FOR UNPROTECTED TREES, TREES THAT ARE TRASH TREES, SO TO SPEAK, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?
>> WE TALKED ABOUT A SCALE, SO THEY ARE CLASS ONE.
>> THE LARGEST TREE CATEGORY, AND YOU HAVE A 2-1 MITIGATION REQUIREMENT FOR THAT, AND CLASS TO IS YOUR TYPICAL PROTECTED TREES, WHICH NORMALLY WOULDN'T BE PROTECTED, AND THEY HAVE A HALF INCH TO ONE RATIO , SO THEY DO SOMEWHAT PROTECT THE SMALLER TREES UNDERNEATH THEIR SIX-INCH REQUIREMENT.
>> I THINK WE SHOULD CUT THOSE DOWN.
>> MAYBE NOT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL BE CODIFIED OR NOT, BUT MAYBE NOT , CLEARING A LARGE AREA AND THEY ARE TAKING ON A LOT OF PROTECTED TREES AND UNPROTECTED TREES AT THE SAME TIME, WE WANT TO REQUIRE MITIGATION IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE, OR IS THAT EVEN
POSSIBLE? >> I GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF A SCENARIO WHERE I THINK THAT MAYBE WENT A LITTLE TOO FAR IN TERMS OF THE UNPROTECTED CHILIES. THEY HAD A ROW THAT BLOCKED THE VIEW OF THEIR BUSINESS. THEY ARE NOT ATTRACTIVE LOOKING. AND THEY WANT TO TAKE IT OUT AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY COULD TAKE IT OUT BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T SURE IF IT WAS PROTECTED OR NOT, AND UNFORTUNATELY FOR THEM, IT WASN'T PROTECTED, SO THEY ARE GOING TO QUICKLY GET IN THERE. NOW YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THAT WE HAVE A CHILIES. SO, THERE HAS KIND OF BEEN AN EXAMPLE OF -- I THINK THERE IS A BALANCE THAT WE CAN STRIKE, AND WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS PENALIZE FOR THOSE TRASH TREES , YOU KNOW?
>> JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP SINCE IT WAS KIND OF NOT REALLY CONSIDERED AS PART OF THIS DISCUSSION.
>> JUST SO I'M CLEAR, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING LISTS OF SPECIES WHEN WE HAD A LIST OF UNDESIRABLE SPECIES, OR WILL IT BE EVERYTHING THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE PROTECTIVENESS, WHICH IS PROBABLY EASIER TO DO? YOU'RE PROTECTING YOUR OAKS,
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>> I DON'T THINK THEY ARE ON OUR PROHIBITED TREE LIST.
>> THAT IS THE DEVELOPER'S CHOICE.
>> CLEARLY, WE HEAR THAT YOU WANT IT ON THAT LIST, SO OKAY.
IT WILL MAKE THE LIST. >> EVERYWHERE THAT NEEDS TO BE ON THE LIST
[5. DISCUSS CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS FOR DECEMBER 3, 2024 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.]
>> EXCELLENT, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL, ITEM FIVE.
NIGHT'S MEETING. >> WE'VE GOT ONE. PULL IT ALL.
ALL RIGHT, WE ARE GOOD? OKAY.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.