[1.CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:13] >> GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. RESERVE THE RIGHT TO RECONVENE OR WORK SESSION OR CALL EXECUTIVE SESSION OR ORDER OF BUSINESS PRIOR [3. CITIZENS INPUT] COMMENTS WILL BE TAKEN ON ANY TOPIC. I WILL GO IN THE ORDER OF THE CARDS THAT WE RECEIVED IN THE FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE PAT. IF YOU WILL STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE AND YOU ARE WELCOME TO STAND . >> I WOULD LIKE TO NOT STAND. >> ABSOLUTELY. STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE AND YOU CAN MAKE REMARKS. >> >> WE ARE JUST DOING ONE INPUT SESSION FOR THE AGENDA ITEMS. >> ALL OF MY COMMENTS HAVE TO DO WITH THE TRASH SITUATION AND CODE ENFORCEMENT. I LIVE AT 3405 WESTWOOD CIRCLE. I'VE LIVED HERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. SINCE REPUBLIC STARTED THERE HAVE BEEN INCONSISTENCIES. THERE IS NO CONSISTENCY ON TRASH PICKUP TIMES. WE NEVER KNOW IF WE ARE GOING TO BE MR. NOT. SPECIFICALLY, AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING YOU WOULD PUT IN THE CONTRACT, BUT IT IS SOMETHING YOU CAN SET YOUR CLOCK TO THE PRIOR VENDOR. I KNEW BY 7:30 IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM. WE NEVER KNOW IF WE ARE GOING TO GET PICKED UP, AND WHEN WE DO CALL, WE CAN NEVER GET THROUGH TO REPUBLIC. WITH HAD TO RESORT TO CALLING DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF STAFF , WHICH IS PART OF THE ISSUE. SO MY REQUEST IS, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THE DRIVERS TO FOLLOW CONSISTENT ROUTES AND SCHEDULES. SECOND ISSUE. SOMETIMES THE VOLUME OF TRASH EXCEEDS WHAT OUR DUMPSTERS WILL HOLD. IF WE HAVE A PARTY , THEN YOU'RE KIND OF SCREWED AND YOU HAVE TO HOLD ONTO NASTY TRASH BECAUSE IT WILL NOT GET PICKED UP UNLESS IT'S IN THOSE BAGS. I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO HANDLE THAT BECAUSE LIFE HAPPENS AND WE LIVE IN THE CITY AND WE DON'T ALWAYS GENERATE THE SAME AMOUNT OF GARBAGE WEEK AFTER WEEK. INSTEAD OF CONTACTING A CITY EMPLOYEE, WE ARE INSTRUCTED CALL THE VENDOR. I HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO GET THROUGH TO THE VENDOR ON THE PHONE. I FOUND OUT YESTERDAY AFTER A MEMBER OF REPUBLIC REFERRED MY MESSAGE TO THEM CALLED ME AND SAID THEIR PHONES HAVE BEEN OUT OF ORDER FOR 2 WEEKS , WHICH, GIVEN OUR CALL SCHEDULE, I CONCUR WITH THAT. THERE IS NO OTHER -- WE ARE HAVING TO BOTHER CITY STAFF MEMBERS TO CALL AND COMPLAIN. MY HUSBAND HAS TWO EYES THAT HE HAS GONE TO CALL. WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WORK AROUND THE SYSTEM. THE SYSTEM SHOULD WORK IF THAT'S THE PROTOCOL WE ARE SUPPOSED TO COVER. YESTERDAY I HUNG UP AFTER 48 MINUTES OF TRASH DID NOT GET PICKED UP. THE LADY SAID TO GO ON AND HANG ON AND SEE HOW LONG IT GOES AND I HUNG UP WHEN THE TRASH GUY FINALLY SHOWED UP AT 4:20. ARE REPUBLIC TAKING CALLS FOR THESE ISSUES? IT'S SORT OF A FOX GUARDING THE HEN HOUSE. DOES THE CITY KNOW THE NUMBER OF ISSUES , ESPECIALLY OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS WHEN THERE'S NOT BEEN A WORKING PHONE. HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF US ARE GETTING FRUSTRATED ? I HAVE TOO MUCH GOING ON IN MY LIFE TO BE FRUSTRATED ABOUT TRASH. WE'VE HAD A SPECIFIC ISSUES INCOMPLETE EMPTYING OF THE TRASH CANS. IT'S ALL AUTOMATED. ONE TIME WE CALLED AND THEY SENT ANOTHER DRIVER OUT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED HE RETALIATED. HE CAME BACK AND HE DUMPED THE TRASHCAN AND PROMPTLY DUMPED IT ON ITS SIDE AND WENT DOWN TO THE CUL-DE-SAC AND TURNED AROUND AND PARKED IN FRONT OF HER HOUSE FOR LITTLE WHILE AND WE THOUGHT, HUSBAND WORKS FROM HOME AND I AM ON DISABILITY. WE WATCHED AND HE NEVER GOT OUT OF HIS VEHICLE AND NEVER PICKED UP THE TRASHCAN. JUST UNDER NORMAL TRASH PICKUP THEY KNOCK OVER ALL THE TIME. AND DON'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. I HAVE TROUBLE PICKING UP THOSE THINGS. SO NOT ACCEPTABLE. [00:05:03] >> CAN YOU RAP UP YOUR COMMENTS IN THE NEXT 10 SECONDS OR SO? >> AS FAR AS BULKY ITEMS , I DIDN'T FIND OUT UNTIL YESTERDAY IT'S WEDNESDAYS THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO PICK UP. SO NOW I HAVE THAT EXPECTATION AND IT WOULD BE NICE IF IT WERE PUBLISHED. THE OTHER THING IS ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS GOT A NASTY GRAM FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE LIMBS WERE OUT EARLY A FEW WEEKS AGO. WE HAD 80 MILE PER HOUR WINDS AND A BUNCH OF US HAD LIMBS DOWN. ARE WE SUPPOSED TO PICK THEM UP AND HIDE THEM IN THE BACKYARD AND THEN WAIT UNTIL OUR WEEK AND THEN CURING THEM OUT TO THE CURB? THERE'S NO COMMON SENSE AND THAT. CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THE CITY NEED TO GET TOGETHER AND TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT LIFE HAPPENS. AND IT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN ON THE SCHEDULE. >> I THINK WE NEED TO RAP UP. >> ONCE A MONTH IS NOT ENOUGH. >> THANK YOU. >> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS CURTIS SMITH. STATE YOUR NAME. >> CURTIS SMITH. MY PICKUP DAY IS WEDNESDAY TWO WEEKS AGO I PUT OUT MY TRASH AT 6:00 P.M. ON TUESDAY TO MAKE SURE IT'S PICKED UP WEDNESDAY. WENT OUT THERE THURSDAY AND IT WAS STILL FULL , SO I CALLED ACTION CENTER. THEY SAID YOU HAVE TO CALL THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT. I CALLED UTILITY DEPARTMENT AND THEY SAID CALL REPUBLIC. I WAITED A LITTLE OVER TWO HOURS ON THE PHONE, FINALLY GOT THEM THEY SENT -- BY FRIDAY MORNING IT WAS STILL NOT PICKED UP SO I CALLED UTILITY DEPARTMENT. I THINK THE CITY NEEDS TO KNOW. WE SHOULD NOT BE CALLING REPUBLIC. THE CITY NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING. THE CONTRACT IS BETWEEN REPUBLICAN THE CITY , NOT BETWEEN INDIVIDUALS LIKE MYSELF. I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH ANYTHING THAT YOU DID THE ONCE A MONTH BULK -- ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF REPUBLIC WOULD DO THE CONTRACT SAYS. AND THE CITY NEEDS TO COME DOWN ON THIS. AND ALSO GETTING THE RUNAROUND FROM CITY DEPARTMENTS. THE CITY NEEDS TO BE THE CONTACT. JUST LIKE THIS LADY HERE SAID THE PHONE SYSTEM HAS BEEN DOWN FOR 2 WEEKS. I CALLED ON FRIDAY AND WAS TOLD THAT PEOPLE ARE WORKING FROM HOME WHICH IS WHITE TRASH DIDN'T GET PICKED UP. MY TRASH DID NOT GET PICK UP LAST WINS EITHER BUT THAT WAS MY FAULT. I DID NOT PUT OUT AT 6 PM TUESDAY. HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE PICKED UP TOMORROW. I DO WISH THEY WOULD DO IT THEY SAID WHAT THE CONTRACT SAYS. AND THE CITY IS THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT CAN FORCIBLY DO THIS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> WHEN YOU SAID YOU TRASH DID NOT GET PICKED UP, IS THAT TRASH AND RECYCLE? >> I NEVER GOT A RECYCLE CAN. I MENTIONED THAT TO THE ACTION CENTER. AND I STILL DO NOT HAVE ONE. I MENTIONED THAT TWO WEEKS AGO. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ROBERT. >> >> IS UNBELIEVABLE. FOR 5 MATTRESSES -- COUCHES -- THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO PICK THEM UP BUT THERE BAGS OF LEAVES. THAT HAVEN'T PICKED UP BULK TRASH FOR 3 MONTHS. I WILL GIVE YOU ANOTHER EXAMPLE. THE CITY IS MAKING MORE MORE MONEY ON THE TAXES BECAUSE THE VALUE OF HOUSES IS GOING UP. THE PRICE [00:10:07] WOULD BE TERRIBLE. VALUE PROPERTIES GOING DOWN AND IT MEANS YOU GET LESS TAXES. PICK UP THE TRASH WITH SOMEONE ELSE. I'VE TICKETS TO GET INTO THE DUMP. I COULD PICK UP SOME OF HIS STUFF IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD TO MAKE IT LOOK BETTER FOR ME AND I CAN TAKE IT TO THE DUMP. BUT I HAVE TO DO THAT? I DON'T THINK I SHOULD. THE PREVIOUS COMPANY DID SUCH A WONDERFUL JOB. IT WAS ALL GONE. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PICKED UP LAST MONDAY OF THE MONTH AND HASN'T BEEN DONE . I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO PLEASE GET SOMEONE TO PICK IT UP. IT LOOKS LIKE A DUMP IN MY STREET. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> NEXT SPEAKER IS KRISTI . >> I LIVE ON WEST SHORE DRIVE. MY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS NEVER LOOKED SO BAD. I WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR INCREASED TRASH PICKUP. IF YOU DRIVE WANTED TWO STREETS OVER ALMOST EVERY HOUSE HAS TRASH AND GARBAGE OUT FRONT. I POSTED SOME PICTURES. THAT'S A TINY SNAPSHOT MOST EVERY HOUSE HAS GARBAGE IN FRONT OF IT. MY NEIGHBORS , WE'VE ALL LIVED THERE -- MANY HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 10 TO 1520 YEARS. WE ARE POSITIVE THAT MOST OF OUR TRASH, BELIEVES, THAT'S BEEN THERE SINCE RIGHT AFTER THE FREEZE IN FEBRUARY. IT'S BEEN WELL OVER A MONTH. NOW IT'S NOT JUST LEAVES AND BRANCHES. I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE'S , BUT I THINK OUR HOMES ARE ASSESSED AT A HALF-MILLION DOLLARS AND UP AND THERE ARE SO MANY MATTRESSES ON MY STREET. MATTRESSES THROUGHOUT MY NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE NEXT STREET OVER THE OTHER WAY THEIR MATTRESSES AND RANDOM DEBRIS PEOPLE RENOVATING AND BROKEN FURNITURE AND ALL KINDS OF CRAP ON THE CURB AND ALMOST EVERY SINGLE HOME IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T LIVE IN A TERRIBLE PLACE. IT USED TO BE IMMACULATE AND EVERY WEEK IT WAS AUTOMATIC AND THE TRASH WAS PICKED UP. IT'S A DISASTER NOW. AND IT SNOWBALLS. HOMEOWNERS WHO CARE LESS ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD , THEY CONTINUE TO THROW GARBAGE OUT THERE. JUNK. TONS OF BROKEN DOWN CRAP SITTING ON THE CURB ALONG WITH THE LANDSCAPING DEBRIS. THAT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN HERE. I UNDERSTAND CITIES RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SERVICES. THERE WILL BE ANOTHER SPECIAL MEETING , BUT IN MY OPINION TRASH MANAGING GARBAGE GETTING IT OFF OF OUR RESIDENTIAL STREETS IS A SUPER AN ESSENTIAL SERVICE JUST LIKE POLICE AND FIRE. >> THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MICHELE. >> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS AND THERE'S A LOT OF TRASH ON THE AREA. ONE OF THE [00:15:02] AREAS WE DID -- THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COMMUNICATION , I KNOW -- FOR BULK PICKUP. >> NOISE ] SOMETIMES IT'S BECAUSE IT'S OUR OWN FAULT AND THEN WILL BE OUT THERE BEHIND HOUSE AND BE OUT THERE FOR SEVERAL WEEKS, ALMOST 2 MONTHS. SENDING A TEXT MESSAGE AS A REMINDER THAT NEXT WEEK IS YOUR WEEK IT CAN REMIND PEOPLE LET'S GET IT OUT THIS WEEKEND AND ALSO MAYBE SIGNS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THE SECTION WHEN IT'S THE NEXT WEEK TO HAVE YOUR BULK TRASH PICKED UP ON COMMUNICATION BOARDS. ISN'T GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM BUT IT WILL HELP PEOPLE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> OUR LAST SPEAKER IS INAUDIBLE ] BROWN. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON REPUBLIC ? >> STAFF AND COUNCIL FOR THE WORK FOR PUTTING TOGETHER -- THAT YOU WILL BE CONSIDERING. IT'S BEEN A FEW MONTHS COMING AND IT'S A GREAT THING IT WILL TAKE US TO THE NEXT LEVEL WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW CITY STAFF , BUT A LOT HAS CHANGED SO MINE IS KUDOS. I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FOR THE EFFORT THEY PUT IN AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT PHASE OF OUR RELATIONSHIP. >> DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER REQUESTS TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? SEEING NONE, AND I DON'T MEAN TO MAKE LIGHT OF YOUR COMMENTS. WE DO APPRECIATE EVERYBODY THAT COMES REGARDLESS OF THEIR POSITION OR FRUSTRATION OR WHATEVER. IT'S JUST NOT OFTEN THAT WE HEAR KUDOS. >> MR. MAYOR, CAN I ADD ONE MORE THING ABOUT THE BULK PICKUP? >> ONE SENTENCE. >> CAN WE PLEASE INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF VOLUME THAT IS ALLOWED FOR BULK PICKUP? I HAVE A ONE ACRE YARD WITH A LOT OF TREES. SO TO ADHERE TO THE SIX FOOT VOLUME REQUIREMENT , IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. >> THANK YOU. [4A. Presentation regarding options to revise contract with Republic Services in relation to bulky waste service collection.] >> WITH THAT, AND HAVING NO FURTHER INPUT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO 4A PRESENTATION REGARDING OPTIONS TO REVISE CONTRACT WITH REPUBLIC SERVICES IN RELATION TO BULKY WASTE SERVICE COLLECTION. [00:20:01] >> WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS. WE WILL WALK-THROUGH THOSE OPTIONS. BULK SERVICE TRANSITION. WE WENT FROM ONCE A WEEK TO ONCE A MONTH. THE CURRENT CONTRACT IS A LITTLE VAGUE ON HOW THAT IS IMPLEMENTED REPUBLIC'S INTERPRETATION IS YOU SAID IT OUT SUNDAY AND MONDAY AND IT'S COLLECTED BY SATURDAY. THAT MEANS SOMETIMES IT'S IT'S OUT THERE FOR A WHILE. THEY DEFINE A SPECIFIC DAY BUT THEY HAVE BEEN SHARING THAT AS PART OF THE PROCESS. >> FOR 5 DAYS AND SOME CAN BE THERE FOR A MONTH. OVERSIZED LOADS THEY CAN PICK UP PART OF IT AND THEY CAN SIT THERE FOR ANOTHER MONTH. WE HAVE EXPERIENCED SITUATIONS LIKE THE PHOTOS YOU PROVIDED HERE. >> NEW DEFINE AND NONCOMPLIANT LOAD? >> TOO MUCH. >> THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NONCOMPLIANT --'S FREQUENCY? >> WHERE IT IS LOCATED , WHAT IS IT IS COMPOSED OF, THINGS LIKE THAT. CARD COLLECT , IT GETS MORE FRUSTRATING FOR THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS -- EXAMPLES OF PEOPLE WHO PUT IN THE ROADWAY RATHER THAN ON THE CURB EDGE THAT WOULD BE NONCOMPLIANT. THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM OUT TO EARLY CUTS OVERSIZED , MAKES IT HARD AND CARS PARKED IN FRONT OF IT COLLECTED. IT'S AUTOMATED. SO THEY HAVE TO BE TO GET TO IT IN ORDER TO PICK IT UP . IN THE PAST WHEN SOMEBODY GOT SOMETHING -- BECAUSE IT WAS WEEKLY THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY BECAUSE YOU GIVE NOTICE OF VIOLATION SEVEN DAYS TO COMPLY, WELL, -- IT WAS NOT REALLY AN ISSUE OF OPPORTUNITY -- BECAUSE OF THAT WEEKLY COLLECTION. SO OUR RESIDENTS GOT USED TO PUTTING IT OUT WHEN THEY WANTED AND GET PICKED UP. NOW IT IS ONCE A MONTH AND IT IS LIMITED, AND THEREFORE THE OUTCOME HAVE A POOL AND YARD DEBRIS AND LOTS OF THINGS GOING OUT AND IT MAKES HARD TO COLLECT IT'S NOT BUNDLED IN ANY WAY. AND IT'S A CHALLENGE. THERE'S A CERTAIN EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT HERE THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR REGARDLESS OF HOW THE COUNCIL WANTS TO GO. BECAUSE BEHAVIOR IN THE PAST. SINCE OCTOBER 28TH WE BEEN TRYING TO EDUCATE OUR RESIDENTS. WE'VE DONE A LOT OF NOTIFICATIONS AND YOU'LL SEE THESE NOT NOTIFICATIONS. WE JUST TRY TO COMMUNICATE. IS NOT CITATIONS. WE HAD OVER 1000 VIOLATIONS . WE'VE ONLY ACTUALLY DONE A FEW CITATIONS. IF YOU HAVE A CONTRACTOR, THE STREET. THIS HAS BEEN RAMPING UP A LITTLE BIT RECENTL NOTICES FOR A PERIOD AND NOW WE ARE MOVING FARTHER AND PEOPLE [00:25:05] DON'T TAKE THE ACTION THAT THEY NEED TO RESOLVE THINGS. THEIR OPTIONS TO RESOLVE IT. IF THEY WANT TO HAVE IT PICKED UP -- REPUBLIC WILL COME OUT AND CHARGE A FEE . $12 PER YARD. >> ] >> THE QUOTAS WITHIN 24 HOURS. >> >> WE CAN CLARIFY THE CONTRACT REGARD REGARDING COLLECTION DAY. THAT THIS IS THE DAY FOR COLLECTION. YOUR COLLECTION IS ONCE A MONTH ON WEDNESDAY, THEREFORE , YOUR EXPECTATION THAT YOU PUT IT OUT ON TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY EARLY MORNING RATHER THAN HAVING IT SIT OUT THERE FOR 3 DAYS BEFORE IT'S COLLECTED. ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVE GONE OUT WITH MORE EDUCATION IS WE WANT TO SEE -- A COMMUNICATION CAMPAIGN THAT WOULD BE A PERFECT TIME TO SAY, YOUR COLLECTION DAYS WEDNESDAY COLLIERS IS FRIDAY , PLEASE DON'T PUT IT OUT MORE THAN 24 HOURS . AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. IT GIVES THEM MORE TIME TO COLLECT DURING HIGH SEASONS WHEN WE HAVE A LOT OF DEBRIS AND MORE TIME TO CATCH UP IN SPRING BROTHERS SIGNIFICANT TIMES THIS IS A CONTRACT CLARIFICATION >> HELP ME UNDERSTAND COUPLE THINGS. IN THE CURRENT CONTRACT ARE THE LOW TYPES DEFINED AT ALL? >> FOR BULKY? >> YES. >> JUST DEFINED BY SIZE >> THERE SECTIONS IN THE CONTRACT THAT ARE NOT ALLOWED AND SECTIONS OF WHAT ARE ALLOWABLE AND ON THE WEB PAGE OF WHAT'S ALLOWABLE AND WHAT IS NOT >> WHEN YOU SAY NOT ALLOWABLE, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HAZARDOUS-WASTE? IS THAT WHAT WE ARE FINDING? THAT'S WHAT'S BEING DEEMED NONCOMPLIANT ARE SPECIFICALLY THOSE THINGS OR IS IT UP TO THE DRIVER'S DISCRETION TO SAY I'M NOT PICKING THAT UP. >> IF THERE WAS HAZARDOUS-WASTE HER TIRES REFRIGERATORS , THEY WOULD PICK UP AND LEAVE THOSE ITEMS. IT'S ANYTHING OVER 8 YARDS. WE HAD A 50 4 YARD PILE TODAY. THAT IS NOT COMPLIANT. AND THEN WE TAG IT AND SAY PLEASE CALL TO SCHEDULE PICKUP AND IT'S UP TO THE CUSTOMERS THEY WANT TO CALL. BUT THAT'S WITH THE NONCOMPLIANCE THE MAJORITY ARE. >> WHEN YOU ORIGINALLY TALKED TO US ABOUT THIS, THURSDAY TRACK OUR TRUCK. THAT DOESN'T WORK WITH BULK THAT DOES WORK WITH IT SO WE DO KNOW WHAT DAY. THAT'S MY QUESTION. WHAT ARE WE CLARIFYING? >> LET ME GO TO FROM THE BEGINNING. YOU CAN HAVE LIGHT WEIGHTS OR HEAVYWEIGHTS. SEND OUT BY MONDAY MORNING WE RUN THROUGH ZONES WE TRY TO PUSH AHEAD AND GET TO THE OTHER ZONES. SO IT'S A 5 TO 6 DEAR DEAR. WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING IS YOU ARE SCHEDULED AND YOU SAY WEDNESDAY , THAT'S THE DAY WE WILL BE THERE TO PICK IT UP. WE WILL TELL YOU A SPECIFIC DAY OF THE MONTH SO PEOPLE [00:30:01] DON'T HAVE TO PUT IT OUT ON MONDAY. THEY CAN LOOK AT THE APP AND SAY I HAVE TO HAVE IT OUT TONIGHT AND BRING IT TO A SPECIFIC DAY. >> AND THAT REQUIRES A CONTRACT AMENDMENT. >> THIS WILL >> BACK -- INCLUDE CLARIFICATION. SPEC CAN WE HAVE AT THE SAME DAY THAT YOUR TRASH IS PICKED UP? >> NO. WE RUN FIVE DAYS TO 20,000 HOMES AND AS YOU RUN THROUGH IT, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE CONFUSING YOU WILL SPLIT ON MONDAY INTO FOUR ZONES AND SPLIT THAT INTO FOUR SECTIONS IT WILL BE MORE CONFUSING THAN THE OTHER WAY AROUND. >> ] >> THINK OF A QUADRANT OF THE CITY IS MONDAY TRASH PICKUP. BUT TO DO BOTH , BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF WORK THEY HAVE TO DO, THAT COME FIRST MONDAY OF THE MONTH. >> LESS CONFUSING FOR THE RESIDENT. YOU'RE SAYING IT'S MORE CONFUSING FOR REPUBLIC. IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO THINK I'M TO TAKE THE TRASH OUT AT THE SAME TIME. >> BUT YOUR MONDAY WOULD BE SPLIT INTO FOUR ZONES. YOU COULD GET PICKED UP ON MONDAY AND THE PERSON ACROSS THE STREET MAYBE THE SECOND MONDAY AND THEN YOU HAVE THE THIRD MONDAY AND A FOURTH MONDAY. >> I TZIMMES MY TRASH IS ON MONDAY , THAT'S MY WEEK GOES UP SAME TIME. >> STARTS RAINING IT SEEMS LIKE MORE TRASH. AT LEAST A DEFINED DAYS A GOOD START. >> JUST SO YOU KNOW WE PLAN ON TRYING TO STICK WITH THAT ONCE A WEEK OR EVERY OTHER WEEK WE PLAN ON TRYING TO STICK TO THE SPECIFIC DAY SO THEY CAN LOOK AT THE APP AND NO. >> I WANT TO SHARE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. I KNEW I WAS CAN HAVE TREE WORK DONE. AND I KNEW IT WAS COULD BE OF BUNCH OF STUFF AND I PLANNED FOR. I KNEW THEY ARE GOING PICK UP -- I'M ON THE FIRST WEEK AND I SPENT DAYS AND HOURS ON THE PHONE ALL I WANTED TO FIND OUT IS CHARGE ME . I KNOW THIS IS MORE THAN WHAT YOU WANT. AND THEY SHOWED UP AND THEY TOOK HALF. AND THEY LEFT THE OTHER HALF. AND I WAS EXTREMELY UNHAPPY. AND THEN FINALLY SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY -- I DON'T KNOW WHO, MANAGED TO GET IT DONE. BUT EVEN WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO PLAY BY THE RULES AND YOU UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, IT STILL DOESN'T WORK, THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE SERIOUS PROBLEMS AND, UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT. >> LET ME ADDRESS THE PHONE ISSUES. WE ARE PUTTING IN A NEW PHONE SYSTEM. IT'S A NEW CUSTOMER SERVICE SYSTEM WE'VE MOVED ALL THE CALLS IT WAS PICKED UP IN ONE MINUTE AND 30 SECONDS. YOU'RE IN A SEPARATE ZONE RIGHT NOW IT WAS MOVED LAST NIGHT AND I TEST THEM ALL THE TIME. I TESTED ALL THE TIME. [00:35:13] WERE TRYING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN FOR YOU GUYS. >> IT'S JUST BY WAY OF ILLUSTRATION AND EVEN TRYING TO DO THE PROCESS CORRECTLY AND DOING EVERYTHING RIGHT DOESN'T WORK, THE FUNDAMENTALS ARE NOT THERE. >> I BELIEVE THAT WAS IN THE FIRST THREE WEEKS OF THE CONTRACT. >> THIS IS GOING FURTHER -- YOU SAY WE CANNOT NECESSARILY COORDINATE THE BRUSH BULK WITH THE COLLECTION DATE. YOU OFFER THAT IN OTHER CITIES. SO WE KIND OF NEED TO REVISIT THAT QUESTION AND MAYBE YOU'RE NOT PREPARED TO ANSWER NOW. BUT WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE ? >> YOU WANT MONDAY PICKED UP ON MONDAY. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? >> IN ARLINGTON YOU PICK UP BRUSH BULK WASTE AND RECYCLING ON THE SAME DAY. AND THE CITY IS BROKEN INTO -- 'S AT THE CAPITOL QUESTION? THAT'S THE QUESTION I THINK WE NEED TO JUST BE ABLE TO PROVIDE -- SO THEY CAN WEIGH THE OPTIONS. >> I JUST LOOKED AT IT. >> IS A SMALLER AMOUNT, BUT LET'S PUT THE ISSUE OF SIZE TO THE SITE FOR MOMENT. IF WE CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION OF COORDINATING THE SCHEDULE. JUST TO PROVIDE THAT OPTION TO THE COUNCILS SO THEY CAN CONSIDER IT AT SOME POINT. >> YOUR FIVE DAYS A WEEK. >> I'M SORRY. HOW CAN YOU PUT THE QUESTION OF SIZE TO THE SIDE. ISN'T THE QUESTION THE AMOUNT OF TRUCK SPACE THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO MOVE THAT BULK? >> POSSIBLY. AND THAT'S FOR HIM TO ANSWER. ALL I'M SAYING IS THIS. HE ASKED A QUESTION. CAN YOU DO IT? THE ANSWER IS YES COULD YOU DO IT ELSEWHERE. SO WHAT RESOURCE DO YOU NEED FROM THE CITY OF ROWLETT TO ACCOMPLISH THAT? IT MIGHT BE BEYOND OUR MEANS, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT'S BEING DONE IN ANOTHER CITY. >> WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE CITIES , MOST OF THEM ARE PROBABLY 2 YARDS AND THAT'S ALL YOU ARE ALLOWED AND THEY PICK IT UP -- THEY RUN A LOADER BEHIND IT. WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS WITH 8 YARDS. PERSONALLY, I WILL DO ANYTHING YOU WANT, BUT IT MAY BE MORE CONFUSING THAN THE ENTIRE ZONE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. >> I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO COME BACK AND SAY EITHER FOR YOU OR FOR US THAT IT APPEARED WE ANSWERED THIS QUESTION SAYING YOU DON'T OFFER THAT SERVICE AND I KNOW BECAUSE I OWN A HOME IN ARLINGTON. IN THE SAME SERVICE WAS PROVIDED, MAYBE THEY WERE PAYING MORE OR LESS. I DON'T KNOW. BUT I KNOW THE SERVICES THERE AND I CHECKED AGAIN TO MAKE SURE MY INFORMATION IS CURRENT AND I DON'T WANT EITHER OF US TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE THEY CAUSED A LIAR FOR NOT ANSWERING THE QUESTION COMPLETE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION AT HER FINGERTIPS. BUT IT'S AN ANSWER WE CAN GIVE THE COUNCIL AND WHAT THEY DO WITH IT IS A DIFFERENT QUESTION. >> I WILL GO BACK TO OUR ROUTING FOLKS IF YOU REALLY WANT A QUADRANT EACH MONDAY BY FOUR SECTIONS IS YOU WILL HAVE 20 SECTIONS TO LOOK AT. INSTEAD OF ONE AREA . SO YOU KNOW MONDAY SOUTH OF LAKEVIEW IN CERTAIN BORDER AND THAT'S YOUR BORDER AND YOU ARE WITHIN THAT WEEK. SO WE WILL LOOK AT THAT. I THINK IT MAY BE MORE CONFUSING BUT IF THAT SOMETHING YOU WANT US TO LOOK AT, WE WILL LOOK AT. >> I WANT TO GIVE THE OPTIONS TO COUNCIL. >> NO PROBLEM. >> SO WHAT IS THE DAY OF COLLECTION. OPTION NUMBER TWO IS INCREASED TO TWICE A MONTH. REDUCE IT TO 6 YARDS AND IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE YARDS IS A PRICE PIECE THAT WOULD INCREASE THE RESIDENTIAL RATE FROM -- TO 27.8. IT CUTS THE PROBLEM IN HALF. WE GO TWICE A [00:40:12] MONTH, THEN IF YOU PUT -- GO OUT AT THE WRONG TIME YOU WILL WAIT TWO WEEKS RATHER THAN FOUR WEEKS. IF YOU PUT OUT OVERSIZED LOAD, IT WILL GET PICKED UP IN TWO WEEKS AND TWO WEEKS LATER. INAUDIBLE ] AND 12 INSTEAD OF EIGHT ON THIS OPTION. OPTION NUMBER THREE IS TO STICK WITH EIGHT . I DON'T KNOW WHY PUT 6 YARDS THERE. PRICE GOES UP BY A DOLLAR. $1.02 8 YARDS TWICE A MONTH. >> >> $1.00 MORE. FROM $20.36 TO $28.10 . >> WHATEVER. NOT A TRIVIAL INCREASE IN PRICE. FULL COST RECOVERY , ONE PASS THAT ADDITIONAL PRICE CUSTOMERS ON TOP OF THE CURRENT RATE -- FOR 6 YARDS AND STILL TWICE A MONTH BUT GOING FROM 8 TO 6 SO YOU WOULD NEED THE 8 YARDS BUT YOU WOULD DO IT TWICE. YOU COULD REDUCE THE FUND BALANCE. INAUDIBLE ] THIS WOULD REDUCE IT TO 5000 BELOW THE RECOMMENDED -- SORRY -- THE RECOMMENDED LEVEL OF FUND BALANCE. BY NOT CAPTURING ALL OF THAT CAUSED THE YOU SPEND DOWN THE FUND BALANCE IN THIS FUND. THE RECOMMENDED LEVEL IS ABOUT 308,000 AND WE PROJECTED TO BE ABOUT 375. >> ] >> IF YOU ARE -- THIS IS PROJECTIONS. WE COULD GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE A DEFICIT INAUDIBLE ] >> IN SOME SITUATIONS -- >> THAT IS CERTAINLY CORRECT. >> BILLS WE COVER IT -- >> THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S COVERING OUR COSTS. >> YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW OFTEN RESIDENCE DON'T PAY? JUST HAVE THE IMPACT? >> CERTAINLY , WE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. WE HOPE WE ARE RIGHT AND WITH THIS CHANGE STILL BE WITHIN A REASONABLE LEVEL OF RESERVE. JUST 5K BELOW THE RECOMMENDED LEVEL. THE RISK GOES UP >> YOU HAVE THE NUMBERS UP THERE. INAUDIBLE ] >> A PERCENTAGE HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF -- >> IT HAS INCREASED DRAMATICALLY. I THINK WE DO ABOUT 40 A WEEK OR 45 A WEEK. SMOKY SO THAT WAS $12? >> SOMEBODY HAD AN EXTRA PICK UP [00:45:04] A MONTH -- 8 YARDS ON THEIR OWN? AND A DISCOUNT >> >> THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH REPUBLIC BUT WITH ABOUT BULK. HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT GOING BACK TO GARLAND? TO TAKE TO THE LANDFILL? CAN WE NEGOTIATE A MORE FREQUENT OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE STUFF OUT TO THE LANDFILL? >> WE ARE CONTRACTUALLY PROHIBITED. >> I BELIEVE THAT'S CAUSED THAT'S BUILT INTO THE SERVICE WE PROVIDE. >> ] >> >> >> WAS ORIGINALLY CAME OUT I TEND TO BE HIGH WASTE USER BECAUSE I HAVE TREES. SO I GENERATE A LOT. I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT USE VERY LITTLE WASTE. PART OF THE CHALLENGES WE LOOK AT PARTICULARLY AND FOR ME RATE INCREASES TO THE PUBLIC IS A HARD PILL TO SWALLOW. YOU KNOW, TRYING TO BALANCE THAT , AND MAYBE IT IS EDUCATION. WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IT, I STILL CAN'T DO IT. AND THAT ADDS TO THE COMPLEXITY. WORKING BE HIGH WASTE GENERATORS. MAKES IT VERY HARD . JUST AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO CHIME IN ON THAT. IT'S ONE FACTOR TO CONSIDER. >> TO YOUR POINT, AND I DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE THE ISSUE , HOW WE BUY WATER IS BY BULK A CERTAIN AMOUNT. TO CITIES -- WE BUY X AMOUNT A SERVICE FOR X AMOUNT OF BULK AND SOME WILL BE HEAVIER USERS AND SOME WILL BE LESS AND THE FEE FOR THE AVERAGE BULK AND IF WE GO OVER, THEN -- IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT? I GET THAT. >> THERE IS AN OPTION AND WHEN I LOOKED AT WILEY THERE'S A CENTRALIZED LOCATION PEOPLE CAN LOAD UP THEIR STUFF AND HAVE REPUBLIC AND WHAT IS PERMISSIBLE [00:50:13] OR POSSIBLE REMOVE THAT STUFF. IT SEEMS MORE ECONOMICAL FOR PUBLIC BECAUSE THEY'RE PICKING UP A CENTRAL LOCATION AND MAKING RUNS BACK-AND-FORTH AS OPPOSED TO GOING DOWN EACH STREET. IS THAT A CONSIDERATION WE HAVE ? >> LET ME ADDRESS THAT. WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THIS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THE REALITY IS THOSE ARE CALLED CONVENIENCE STATIONS. THEY ARE GOVERNED BY INAUDIBLE ] REGULATIONS AND THEY ARE VERY STRINGENT AND YOU DIRECT US TO DO SO, WE WILL GO OUT AND TRY TO IDENTIFY LOCATION AND TRY TO GET ESTIMATES ON THE REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS TO FACILITATE THAT THAT WAS NOT PART OF THIS CONVERSATION AND IT'S NOT A QUICK THING TO DO AND WILL BE A FAST TURNAROUND AND IT WILL BE EXPENSIVE. IF YOU TELL US TO INVESTIGATE THAT WE WILL, BUT THERE'S JUST A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS. IT IS DONE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT IN PLACE. WHEEZE TO DO SOMETHING AKIN TO THAT AND WE MAY HAVE BEEN VIOLATING THE REGULATIONS, I DON'T KNOW. BUT TO DO IT PROPERLY , I DON'T KNOW. BUT TO DO IT PROPERLY YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THOSE REQUIREMENTS. THAT'S WHY WE PRESENTED IT AS AN OPTION. >> THAT IS INTERESTING . I KNOW THEY WOULD TAKE IN ALL OF THIS BRUSH AND GRIND IT AND GIVE IT BACK TO THE PUBLIC AS MULCH WITH AS MANY STORMS AS WE HAVE. IT'S JUST A THOUGHT AND SOMETHING WE COULD DO. IF WE DID EXPLORE A CENTRAL DROP OFF AND WE COULD GRIND IT UP. >> SURE. YOU CAN INVEST IN A COMMERCIAL GRADE SHREDDER OR GRINDER AND CHIPPER . AGAIN GOT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, YOU DID BRING THIS FORTH AS AN OPTION AND IT REQUIRES RESEARCH AND IT'SNOT AN IMMEDIATE SOLUTION. >> DO YOU STILL HAVE MORE PRESENTATION TO GO? >> ONE ISSUE WE HAVE IS COMPLIANCE NOW. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT OPTION OF CREATING YOUR OWN MULCHING OPERATION .THERE'S A LOT OF COMPLEXITY THAT. AND BE WILLING TO BRING IT TO YOU AND THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE WILL CUSTOMERS ARE INTERESTED IN DOING. >> ARE WE BEING MORE AGGRESSVE ON THE CONTRACT -- I SEE AN AWFUL LOT OF THAT AROUND. >> >> ONE THING I NOTICE -- A LOT OF LAWN CARE COMPANIES IN EVERY LAWNCARE COMPANY THAT PICKED UP IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THEY PICK UP CLIPPINGS AND EVERY WEEK THEY PUT OUT 2 TO 3 BAGS AND IT EVERY WEEK -- >> THEY ARE PILING THE OLD WOOD -- >> THE CONTRACTOR AND LAWN CARE SERVICES ARE THE BIGGEST PART OF THE PROBLEM. BUT THERE -- THERE'S A STEADY WASTE STREAM AND I REMEMBER LAST MONTH , WE WENT THROUGH BULK THE NEXT DAY. PUT MORE STUFF AND -- CONTRACTOR. >> LITERALLY THE NEXT DAY. THEY PICK UP MONDAY >> BY WAY OF ILLUSTRATION I PICKED UP CLIPPINGS THREE TIMES THIS MONTH AND I GENERATED 30 BIG BLAGG'S BIG BAGS. AND [00:55:12] YESTERDAY , WHATEVER IT WAS , I HAD -- IT GOT RAINED ON FOR A MONTH AND IT WAS DECOMPOSING AND DRAG IT TO THE CURB I WAS COMPLAINING . LET'S JUST PUT IT THAT WAY. >> I AM A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED ABOUT THIS. I'VE LIVED IN THE CITY 13 YEARS AND I'VE USED BULK TRASH TWICE. I AM NOT A BULK TRASH USER AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT COMES FROM. I'M CONFUSED. I'VE USED IT TWICE SO THE BAG CLIPPINGS , IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING , I WENT TWO WEEKS AGO TO UTILITY BILLING AND I PUT THE PINK TAGS ON THE BAGS THAT GO NEXT TO THE TRASHCAN LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE A PARTY AND PUT THOSE PINK TAGS ON THE BAGS AND THEY DISAPPEARED. THEY LEFT. SO I WOULD'VE SAID, OKAY, GET 30 PINK TAGS AND IT WILL GO BECAUSE >> WHAT ARE THE PINK TAGS FOR. >> THEY HAVE NO CLUE. >> NOW I'M CONFUSED. >> AS FAR AS THE VIDEO. LIKE I SAID >> WHAT IS THAT CALLED? >> EXCESS WASTE. >> WHAT IS THE MINIMUM? >> ONE CUBIC YARD. >> THEY ARE PAYING THAT $12.00 ON A WEEKLY BASIS? >> AND MAYBE BIG PICTURE SINCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT, MAYBE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE AS A CITY ARE NOT DOING A GOOD JOB OF, OBVIOUSLY AS CITIZENS -- A LOT OF IT IS LAWNCARE COMPANIES AT LEAST YOU HAVE TO PICK YOUR POINTS THAT YOU CAN COME IN AND MAKE THE BIGGEST IMPACT. AND MAYBE THAT IS SOMETHING WE SPENT OUR TIME DOING SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO HAUL IT OFF. >> >> WHEN WE MET WITH YOU ORIGINALLY AND I FEEL LIKE WE WERE SOLD A BILL OF GOODS THAT TALKED US THROUGH THE PROCESS. >> ALL THE ADVANTAGES THAT YOU HAD , YOU WERE GOING TO VISIT EACH COMMERCIAL CUSTOMER IN THE CITY. AND WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME ? DID THE HOA COMMUNICATE OUT TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS? YOU HAVE AN IN-HOUSE GRAPHIC DESIGN TEAM ? YOU WERE SAYING IT DOES NOT WORK [01:00:19] BUT IT DOES? I SAID THIS IN THE MEETING , I THINK THE APP HAS TREMENDOUS VALUE. I LOGGED INTO IT AND THERE ISN'T REALLY ANY ADDITIONAL FEATURES. I CAN SEE WHERE YOU CAN REPORT ISSUES . WE DON'T HAVE PICKUP TODAY. TO ME , REQUESTING BULK PICKUP THROUGH THE APP IS JOB NUMBER ONE, I THINK I ASKED THAT YEARS AGO. IT GOES TO THE SERVICE CENTER AND IT IS APPROXIMATELY THIS MUCH. THE POINT IS, WE ARE TRYING TO NICKEL AND DIME PEOPLE . AND IT IS REALLY AGGRAVATING BECAUSE IT IS NOT USER-FRIENDLY AT ALL. THE TURNAROUND MAY BE PRETTY QUICK. I CAN SNAP A PHOTO , AND HAVE SOMEONE COLLECT MY STUFF THE NEXT DAY OR THE DAY AFTER. SOMEONE MENTIONED , I NEVER KNOW WHEN THE TRUCK IS GOING TO COME, WE NEVER KNOW WHAT TIME OF WEEK OR DAY. >> DID THOSE NOTIFICATIONS WORK ? COMMERCIALLY , THEY GET ALL KINDS OF NOTIFICATIONS. WE DO NOT BILL RESIDENTIAL, IT IS ONLY BILLED TO THE STATE . NO PHONE NUMBERS, THE ADDRESS , SO YOU CANNOT GO BY ADDRESS. >> IF I OPT IN , SO TO SPEAK, TO THE NOTIFICATIONS , DO I HAVE NOTIFICATIONS? >> IT IS SINGLE BILLED , WITH THOSE TYPES OF MESSAGES. >> CAN WE FACILITATE THAT? >> WE CAN CHECK. >> >> TO HAVE THAT NOTIFICATION IN THE APP ? >> I WILL FOLLOW THAT AND GIVE YOU THAT ANSWER. >> IF TACO BELL AND AMAZON CAN PUSH NOTIFICATIONS 18 TIMES A DAY, I WOULD THINK I COULD GET ONE, ONE TIME PER WEEK, FOR WHEN THE TRASH IS GOING TO BE PICKED UP. >> IT DOES DO THAT ON RESIDENTIAL, IT WILL SHOW YOU ON YOUR SCREEN, RIGHT AT THIS TIME , IF YOU ARE A FRONT PICKUP, YOU WILL GET A NOTIFICATION SAYING IT IS COMPLETED. IF THEY ARE WORKING ON THE SPLIT, IT TELLS YOU THE PERCENTAGE THAT IS COMPLETED. >> THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER. I WANT TO SAY I GOT THE PUSH NOTIFICATION, LET'S SAY I GOT THE PUSH NOTIFICATION FOR MONDAY. I HAVE A SCHEDULE. IT SAID ON MONDAY, I WOULD HAVE MY TRASH CART , RECYCLE CART, BULK SERVICE, MY NEXT DATE IS APRIL 14TH. SO, THAT WAS ON THE APP, YOU KNOW? IT KIND OF WORKED , I AT LEAST KNEW WHEN I WAS SUPPOSED TO GET THE STUFF. I KEEP ACTIVE. I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE I AM GOING. >> YOU DEFINITELY COULD SEE THE SCHEDULE . YOU DEFINITELY COULD SEE THAT. THE PUSH NOTIFICATIONS, THE ADDRESS . I WILL CALL UP TOMORROW , I WILL [01:05:02] FOLLOW-UP WITH YOU AND EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. I CAN ONLY SEE MY HOUSE. SO ,■ I WILL OLLOW UP . IT IS , PICKING IT UP , THEY ARE ROUTED, I WILL DOUBLE CHECK. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CUSTOMER SERVICE ASPECT. THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS MADE , IF YOU ARE HAVING SOME TRANSITION, OKAY, I CAN UNDERSTAND IT . BUT GOING FORWARD, WHAT IS THE EXPECTATION? DOES REPUBLIC HAVE THE POINT OF CONTACT ? UTILITY BILLING ? >> PUBLIC SERVICES. >> THAT IS IN THE CONTRACT? I KNOW THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT, I THINK I SHOULD WORK AT THE CITY. IT SHOULD BE ROUTED TO THE PUBLIC. PICKUPS CAN GO THROUGH HERE. WHAT CAN THE RESIDENT EXPECT , VIA PHONE OR THROUGH THE APP? >> THEY HAVE 24 HOURS TO PICK IT UP. AS SOON , JUST SO YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS A PHONE CALL IS MADE, IT IS AUTOMATICALLY LOGGED, AND WE GIVE YOU EVERYTHING , EVERY MISSED PICKUP, WE CAN REPORT THAT . THEY KNOW EXACTLY . >> WHAT IS STAFF DOING WITH THAT INFORMATION ? >> I DID NOT KNOW WE WERE GETTING THAT INFORMATION. >> IT IS A PENALTY IF IT IS ABOVE A CERTAIN LEVEL. >> ANECDOTALLY , MY -- I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO, OKAY? I JUST DROVE OVER THERE . I HAVE GOT TO START SOMEWHERE. PROBABLY NOT CONTRACTUALLY LINKED. BUT THEY DO LESS THEN NOTHING. THEY COULD NOT GIVE ME A PHONE NUMBER. HE HANDED ME A PINK STICKER. BUT HE COULD NOT ANSWER A QUESTION . HE DID NOT KNOW HOW TO CONTACT REPUBLIC. I THINK THAT STAFF NEEDS TO HAVE A MINIMAL EDUCATION AND TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CALL THAT. THAT IS WHO THEY ARE GOING TO CALL, IT IS NOT CORRECT . YOU KNOW? PROCEDURALLY , THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. THE COMMENT WAS, AT THE END OF THE DAY , YOU HAVE GOT TO KIND OF MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE . IF WE KNOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO THERE, AND WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE PART OF THE POPULATION, WE BETTER MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HELP THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS, WHATEVER THAT MEANS. AGAIN, I JUST SORT OF THROWN OUT THERE, NOT AS AN INDICTMENT ON ANYBODY OR ANYTHING ELSE, ANECDOTALLY, THAT IS MY EXPERIENCE. >> FAIR STATEMENT. WE CAN OFFER SOME DEGREE OF SERVICE. THAT WILL BE RECOGNIZED. >> I ALSO WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE FEEDBACK , THEY RAN A SURVEY. THERE WERE 347 RESPONSES AND THE MAJORITY OF RESPONDENTS PREFERRED A ONE TIME PER MONTH SERVICE , FOUR CUBIC YARDS. I AM SAYING THAT FOR EVERYONE IN THE ROOM, THE RESPONDENTS, WHEN WE WERE -- ONE TIME PER MONTH AND FOUR CUBIC YARDS. THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME , INCLUDING SOME SITTING HERE, ELECTED TO CHANGE THAT, BECAUSE IT WAS THE EQUIVALENT TO FOUR WASHING [01:10:01] MACHINES, THUS, INCREASING IT TO EIGHT. I THINK WE ALL THOUGHT WE WERE DOING A GOOD JOB . FINDING A MIDDLE GROUND. I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON HOW OTHER CITIES MAKE IT WORK . CLEARLY, THEY DO NOT HAVE THE PROBLEMS WHERE THERE ARE MASSIVE AMOUNTS ALL THE TIME. HOW DO THEY MAKE THAT WORK? >> FOR 2015 , BACK 10 YEARS, THAT IS THE WAY IT IS HANDLED. IF THEY ARE TRYING TO FIND WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO, YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS OF THIS. AND YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, THERE IS A TAG ON THE CARD -- I TRY TO EDUCATE, EDUCATE, EDUCATE. SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE, I AM GOING TO DO IT. WE LEARNED THAT DAY , THE DAY THAT IT CLEARS, I CAN GO BACK DAYS LATER. RIGHT NOW . UNFORTUNATELY, ONCE PER MONTH. AND WE HAD TO CONTINUE TO EDUCATE AND SAY ONCE A MONTH . WE START ELIMINATING SOME OF THIS , WE CAN'T WAIT FOUR WEEKS . >> SO, CODE ENFORCEMENT, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING , YOU CALL THE WAREHOUSE, YOU GET THE NOTICE . YOU GET A BILL . AND THAT IS GOING TO COME TO YOUR HOUSE? >> TO YOUR PROPERTY, CORRECT. >> CAN WE PICK IT UP AND BILL THEM. >> THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE. >> THAT CERTAINLY IS THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS . 7 TO 10 DAYS OTHER AGREEMENT FACTORS AND MOVE FORWARD. >> IT IS FAIRLY AGGRESSIVE . WE CAN BE MORE AGGRESSIVE. >> >> THAT WOULD DEPEND ON THE LEVEL OF DAMAGE. NEGOTIATING , THAT WAS A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION ON THE COUNCIL. WE HAD JUST EXPERIENCED THE 2020 STORM. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE TORNADO , THE MEMORIAL DAY STORM , BUT WHAT IF IT DID NOT RISE TO THAT LEVEL, WHAT IF IT IS MORE LOCALIZED, NOT TO THE LEVEL WHERE IT IS CATASTROPHIC? >> IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE THE RESULTS OF THAT SURVEY. IF WE ARE GOING TO CONSIDER OPTIONS , I WOULD RATHER SEE US DO A SURVEY. >> NOW >> I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF RAISING RATES . SOME PEOPLE CANNOT FOLLOW THE RULES. BUT I WOULD BE VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF BEING AGGRESSIVE. >> WE PROBABLY WOULD NEED TO ADD A PROGRAM. WE HAVE PEOPLE MOVING INTO OUR CITY . THERE PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE ONGOING EDUCATION. >> ESPECIALLY -- >> THE PROCESS HAS TO BE FROM NOTIFICATION TO PICK UP. [01:15:04] WHATEVER. A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. MY EXPERIENCE, AS I LOOK AROUND THE CITY, YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE CERTAIN PEOPLE THAT DO NOT CARE. THEY ARE GOING TO PUT IT OUT THERE AND IT WILL MAGICALLY DISAPPEAR AND IT IS IN FRONT OF ME AND I THINK, HONESTLY, IN A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS, I WILL AGREE ON THAT. I HAVE SEEN WHERE PEOPLE STARTED OUT , WITH FIVE BAGS OF LEAVES. FIVE DAYS LATER, A COUCH. AND YOU CAN JUST TELL. THEY ARE GOING TO PILE STUFF THERE AND THEY DO NOT CARE . AGAIN, JUST IN MY OPINION , I THINK THAT MAYBE GENERATES SOME OF THE TRASHY LOOKS THAT WE GET. AND IN THIS WAY, WE ARE SORT OF PINPOINTING THE PROCESS, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO MAKE EVERYBODY RESPONSIBLE FOR , YOU KNOW, WHO IS FOLLOWING THE RULES, MAYBE THE ANSWER IS TO AGGRESSIVELY RAMP THAT UP WITH SHORT TIME PERIODS. WE WILL GET THE NASTY-GRAMS , I HAVE NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. AS WE LOOK TO OPTIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED. >> >> IT WOULD CLEAR BEHIND IT. SO, THAT PROCESS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. >> THE ABATEMENT IS NOT PART OF IT. >> THERE IS ONE RIGHT BEHIND IT. WE GO DOWN THERE, WE SNAP A PICTURE , AND >> I WOULD WAIT TWO WEEKS. THE FIRST WEEK, IT IS ALL GOING TO BE GONE . THEY MAY HAVE CLEANED OUT THE GARAGE. GIVING IT A LITTLE TIME. >> YEAH . THEN >> IT IS FAST. >> THERE WAS ABOUT SEVEN , AND I KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING, THE PERCEPTION IS WE CANNOT DO OUR JOB. I HAVE WATCHED VIDEO . IT GETS FRUSTRATING , WITH THE FRUSTRATION . AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE FRUSTRATED WITH THE PROCESS, BELIEVE ME, THERE ARE A LOT OF OPTIONS RIGHT NOW. >> WE ARE ONLY SIX MONTHS IN. TO ME, THE FACT THAT WE ARE STILL TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNICATIONS STRATEGY, AND THE CONTRACT FOR MITIGATION AFTER THE FACT, TO ME, WE SHOULD'VE HAD THOSE THINGS REALLY FLESHED OUT . WE HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO RAMP UP. WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON? THIS IS WHAT YOU DO. THIS IS YOUR EXPERTISE. >> OUTSTANDING . IT HAD TO BE SPELLED OUT. A LOT MORE COMMUNICATIONS HERE. >> THIS IS A REAL CHALLENGE . >> AND THEN , HONESTLY , IT IS IMPORTANT . AND THEY FORGOT IT , THAT, YOU KNOW THEY ENDED UP USING IT , NOW, I THINK WE SHOULD DO A MASSIVE EDUCATION CAMPAIGN , I MEAN , YOU KNOW? [01:20:16] AND THEN, THE NOTICES , FOR PEOPLE IN VIOLATION . WITH THE NOTICES, THAT WAY YOU KNOW , SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST UNAWARE WHAT THE RULES ARE AND I THINK , THAT WILL PROBABLY TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THE ISSUES . >> I DO THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY CLEAR. WE NEED TO BILL THEM. >> THEY ARE FLEXIBLE, BECAUSE THERE ARE GOING TO BE SITUATIONS . THE , I MEAN, YOU KNOW? THEY HAVE A REALLY GOOD PRIORITY AREA. SO, I DO THINK WE WILL FIND A SOLUTION . THAT WILL POINT PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR THE PROCESS . I WOULD ALSO LOVE TO HEAR IF WE CAN HAVE THE BULK TRASH, WHATEVER IT IS , THAT IS HELPFUL , THAT IS WHAT WE CAN REVISIT . THAT WILL GET US STARTED WITH THE APP . >> I PERSONALLY WOULD ADVOCATE, WE HAVE LOTS OF TREES IN THIS COMMUNITY. THERE IS A LOT AND WITH EVERYBODY DOING THE BEST THEY CAN, IT CAN BE DIFFICULT. IF WE WERE TO DO A FUND BALANCE, $5000 BELOW THE RECOMMENDED LEVEL, I THINK I HAVE A FAIR IDEA OF HOW WE COME UP WITH THESE NUMBERS. WE CAN NOT ADVOCATE SKINNING THE CAT ALL THE WAY DOWN. IF WE, AS A CITY GOVERNMENT, WERE ABLE TO DO ALL OF THE THINGS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, AND GIVE TWICE PER MONTH , WHATEVER THE SPECIFICS ARE , IF WE CAN NOT RAISE ANYTHING TO THE TAXPAYER, THE $500,000, IT IS NOT AN ABSOLUTE RED FLAG . IT DOES INCLUDE THE INCREASE. >> THAT IS THE SECOND INCREASE . AS OPPOSED TO A SLIGHTLY LOWER INCREASE IF WE WERE GOING TO DO THE INCREASE AT ALL, SO. >> I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A PROBLEM , BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A RESPONSE TO THE CITY-LED SURVEY, IF YOU HAVE AN OVERWHELMING SENSE OF FEEDBACK THAT SAYS, YES, RAISE THE RATES. >> IT WAS AFTER A VERY LONG TIME WITH NO ISSUES , AND IT WAS SLIGHTLY HIGHER. AND MORE OFTEN THERE IS A SUPER MAJORITY, AND THERE IS A RESPONSE SAYING, WHAT EVER. >> I DO NOT DISAGREE WITH YOU , ON THIS FINANCIAL PEACE AS WELL, KEEP IN MIND , I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF USING THE EXCESS FUND BALANCE. EVEN IF WE DO THIS, IT ONLY DOES THAT. AND WHEN WE GETE [01:25:02] THAT RATE INCREASE. IT ALLOWS 45% ADJUSTMENT , I BELIEVE , AND THIS DOES NOT TELL YOU ABOUT THE SALES TAX, THAT IS BUILT-IN , TOO. >> IF YOU TAKE THAT SECOND OPTION, YOU ARE INCREASING . >> IF YOU GET AN INCREASE , I WOULD NOT DO THE CPI. >> WE WOULD NOT DO THE INCREASE -- FUND WORKS. IT IS STRICTLY FOR THE SERVICE BEING PROVIDED. >> TO YOUR POINT , THAT IS WHAT WE COULD BE DOING. >> IT IS A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE. IF YOU WANT TO GET A CROSS-SECTION OF THE COMMUNITY, A REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE, THAT IS CERTAINLY POSSIBLE. >> I WANT TO SEE PEOPLE PARTICIPATE. >> WE HAVE MULTIPLE WAYS THAT PEOPLE CONTACT US. FROM MY EMAILS , OVERWHELMINGLY, OVERWHELMINGLY THE TAX INCREASE , I KNOW THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN FACEBOOK THREADS THAT ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT? I AM JUST SAYING , THAT IS WHY PEOPLE ARE REALLY MAD PEOPLE ARE LIKE THAT IS THE RESPONSE. IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO IT , IT IS THE GOOD DATA. GARBAGE IN, GARBAGE OUT. >> FOR SOME PEOPLE IT IS FIVE DOLLARS PER MONTH AND FOR SOME PEOPLE IT IS $60 PER YEAR. WE NEED TO SEE WHAT THEY THINK. >> ABOUT 15,000? >> 15. >> IN MY EXPERIENCE. >> EDUCATION IS KEY . THEY UNDERSTAND THE SYSTEM. AND I DO BELIEVE IT. >> I THINK WE WENT A LOT OF YEARS , I AM GUILTY, THE TRASH FERRY CAME ON MONDAY MORNING AND EVERYTHING DISAPPEARED. WE ARE NOT IN THAT SITUATION. IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE . I AM WILLING TO DO THAT. I DON'T THINK OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY FOR MY LIVE BULK TRASH . EVEN AS MUCH SENSE AS THAT MAKES , YOU HAVE TO BE MORE CONSCIOUS OF THE HUMAN BEHAVIOR . >> TO BE FAIR, THERE IS SOMETHING WE COULD DO , IF WE CAN GET THE ADDENDUM DONE , WE CAN TURN AROUND AND START EDUCATING THEM , AND THAT WAY WE HAVE A SPECIFIC DAY AND MONTH . WE CAN KEEP OUR EYE ON IT, SO THAT PEOPLE GET THE NOTICE . >> THE DEFINITION OF PERFORMING VERSUS NONPERFORMING, THAT WILL BE WRITTEN IN, AS WELL ? OR IS THAT JUST -- I MEAN, WHY IS THAT LISTED? OPTION ONE ? >> IT IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT [01:30:01] COULD HAPPEN. >> IT IS A PROBLEM. WE HAVE COMPLIANT CHANGE THE CODE OF CONDUCT. >> OPTION ONE , CLARIFIED THE SERVICE DAY, RENEWED CODE ENFORCEMENT FOCUS. AGGRESSIVE COMMUNICATION. >> >> AND ENGAGED IN SCIENTIFIC -- >> >> GETTING AROUND BUDGET TIME? >> YES, THIS IS A HOT BUTTON ISSUE AND THEY KNOW THAT -- >> REALISTICALLY - OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ] >> IT IS PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE A MONTH TO GET IT POSTED. REALISTICALLY, LET'S NOT OVERPROMISE ANYTHING . >> A LOT OF QUESTIONS . >> PART OF THAT IS QUESTIONS, COMPLAINTS, I WOULD ASK, ONE REQUEST , FOR THE INDIVIDUALS THAT SPOKE TONIGHT ABOUT SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOODS, DO RESEARCH AND FIND OUT WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE STREETS. I KNOW THAT A COUPLE HAVE ALREADY LEFT TO GO. >> YEAH. >> ANYBODY ELSE? >> >> WE WILL, IMMEDIATELY , ONE DAY . >> THAT IS THE MODIFIED CONTRACT THAT WILL COME BACK TO US. >> WE WILL START PULLING THE TRIGGER NOW, JUST SO YOU KNOW. THAT IS THE SPECIFIC BASIS. WE CAN START NOW , BECAUSE THE COMMUNICATION THAT WE HAVE NOW, WE WILL START CHANGING . >> YES. >> WELL, THE COMMENT WAS MADE , ESSENTIAL SERVICES. IT CAN NOT BE LOW-PRESSURE, IT CANNOT BE BROWN. WE NEED A RELIABLE AND TRUSTWORTHY LEVEL OF SERVICE. >> IT IS INCREDIBLY RESPONSIVE. EVERY TIME I HAVE GOTTEN IN TOUCH WITH HIM , THAT WAS THE COMMON DENOMINATOR, DOING AN INCREDIBLE JOB. >> REPUBLIC TAKES IT PERSONAL. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ALL RIGHT , ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC ? THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, THANK YOU [4B. Discuss and provide feedback regarding a Funding Agreement with Keep Rowlett Beautiful.] FOR THE PRESENTATION. LET'S MOVE TO 4 -B, DISCUSS AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK REGARDING A FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH KEEP ROWLETT BEAUTIFUL . >> THERE WAS AN INDICATION IT IS A LONG TIME COMING. >> [01:35:17] >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME IS MICHELLE. WE CALL IT KEEP ROWLETT BEAUTIFUL, THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. SINCE ITS FORMATION , THE CITY OF ROWLETT HAS BEEN ENGAGED IN A LOT OF ACTIVITIES ACROSS VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS, WE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH MICHELLE AND MARTHA TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN MEMORIALIZE THOSE. THROUGH THAT DIALOGUE, OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST TWO MONTHS, WE HAD A CLEAR OUTLINE OF THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF EACH PARTY, AS WELL AS SOME DIFFERENT PROVISIONS WE WILL WALK YOU THROUGH . IN HIGH-LEVEL TERMS, THE AGREEMENT WOULD BE OCTOBER 30TH, FISCAL YEAR , AUTOMATIC GOAL -- RENEWAL . WITHIN THAT 30 DAYS , THIS IS A FUNDING AGREEMENT, THEY WOULD DISPENSE THAT, AND YOU MUST SUBMIT VARIOUS ACTIVITIES AS WELL . WHAT IS IN THE AGREEMENT , KEEP ROWLETT BEAUTIFUL WILL RECEIVE A PAYMENT OF $40,000 , THROUGH THE CITY , AND THAT WOULD TRANSFER ALL OBLIGATIONS, CONTINUED OFFICE SPACE , AT NO COST FOR FISCAL YEAR , THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT , SUPPORTING ALL ACTIVITIES, AND THIS CITY HAS OUTLINED THE SERVICES, WE CAN GO INTO A BIT MORE DETAIL. IN EXCHANGE, RESIDENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF ROWLETT WOULD RECEIVE ONE DESIGNATED STAFF LIAISON. A MINIMUM OF ONE MORE POSITION ON THE KEEP ROWLETT BEAUTIFUL BOARD OF DIRECTORS. AND SERVICES FROM KEEP ROWLETT BEAUTIFUL, JUST A STATEMENT OF OBLIGATIONS. I WILL BREEZE THROUGH THE STATEMENTS OF OBLIGATION THEY ARE IN YOUR PACKET. THEY ARE A COMBINATION OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE DO TOGETHER. IT WILL BE RECYCLING , AT THE ROWLETT HIGH SCHOOL, AND A KEEP ROWLETT BEAUTIFUL EVENT WITH MARKETING COMMUNICATIONS , FOR THAT EVENT. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THERE WAS ONE RAINED OUT ON SATURDAY. AND THE INFORMATION, THE CITY WILL HELP COORDINATE TRASH, WITH ANY ROLLOFF REQUIRED, AND THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT GOES AND DISPOSES OF THE TRASH. THERE IS A BIG EVENT PUT ON AND THERE IS A COLLABORATION WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT , KNOWING WHEN IT WILL BE FINALIZED . ANY SPECIAL CELEBRATION, TYPICALLY INAUDIBLE ]. >> REAL QUICK , ARE THOSE BASICALLY PERMITS, OR KR BE? >> PARTICIPATE IN LITTER ABATEMENT . THEY WILL MANAGE THE PROGRAM, THE REPOSITORY FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND THEY WILL PICK UP THOSE MATERIALS . EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES, PRETTY [01:40:05] SELF-EXPLANATORY . THEY HAVE INFORMATION AND THAT OBLIGATION WOULD BE SHARED BY THE APPROPRIATE MEDICATIONS CHANNEL. THEY HAVE THAT ACROSS THE CITY MANAGING THE PROGRAM AND THE LOCATIONS RESPONSIBLE FOR SIGN INSTALLATIONS . THEY DO THOSE WITH SPRING CLEAN OFF, AND THEY ARE MAKING SURE THEY GET THAT PICKED UP. IF I AM GOING TOO FAST, LET ME KNOW. EVALUATIONS, SOMETHING WE ASSIST WITH , WE HAVE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT BUT THERE IS AN OBLIGATION TO APPROVE PRIOR TO SUBMISSION. IN COLLABORATION IT WILL BE PUT ON BY THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TEAM, WITH KEEP ROWLETT BEAUTIFUL TO EXECUTE LARGE-SCALE SPECIAL EVENTS . HAVING THEM PROVIDE STAFF , AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. >> WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS WITH THE PARKS BOARD , THEY HAD THE FREE TREE GIVEAWAY , IT WAS BEING TURNED OVER TO THE CITY. WE WANTED TO HAVE THAT BRANDING FOR THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND IT IS MORE OF A COLLABORATION AND MAYBE NOT NECESSARY, BUT THIS IS THE SIGNATURE EVENT FOR KRB. MAYBE THE CITY HANDLES IT ALL , BUT SERVES AS A BRAND IDENTIFIER , FOR BEING KIND OF THERE -- THEIR HISTORICAL EVENT . MAYBE , MAYBE IN BIG LETTERS, BE MORE CONSCIOUS OF THIS IDEA. MAKE SURE THAT THE KRB BRANDING IS PROMINENT . >> THERE IS A PART FOR THE ACTIVITIES , WE WOULD CONNECT THEM , THEY WOULD ULTIMATELY MAKE THE DECISION OF HOW THEY PARTICIPATE IN THAT . AS WELL AS JUST SHARING OFFICIAL CITY OF ROWLETT INFORMATION ON THERE. THIS IS B CITY , THERE IS AN ORDINANCE RESOLUTION WHICH OUTLINES EACH ONE OF THESE AND WHERE IT CAME FROM. KEEP ROWLETT BEAUTIFUL, THE OFFICIAL COMMITTEE, THERE ARE EXISTING ROLES WE PLAY. THAT IS INFORMATION, AND THAT IS THE NOTIFICATION . AROUND ACCESS , COMMUNICATION , AGAIN, THAT IS A LONG LIST. I AM HAPPY TO PROVIDE YOU A COPY OF THE MANAGEMENT PLAN OR ANY COMP PLANS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KEPT IN, IT IS A COMPETITION WE PUT ON EVERY YEAR, AND WE PROMOTE THE SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS, AND THE ONES THAT MAKE SENSE FOR KRB TO BE PART OF , THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING, AND PROVIDING AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT AND SPREAD THE WORD . PART OF YOUR PACKET . DUE TO TIMING, MICHELLE HAS SOMETHING , NOTHING MATERIAL IN NATURE, BUT THEY WANTED TO HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. >> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. CHANGE IS [01:45:05] FRUSTRATING TO GO THROUGH BUT IT IS NECESSARY . AND, THANK YOU, STAFF . FOR ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT HERE, AS WELL. IN ORDER TO CLARIFY , A MEMBER SUGGESTED PART OF IT JUST BEING KIND OF -- TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE GOING FROM. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO JUST DISCUSS THE CHANGES OR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE . >> GRAMMATICAL CHANGES NEED TO BE FIXED. I WOULD BE INTERESTING TO HEAR THE STAFF PERSPECTIVE ON THE FIRST CHANGE, IDENTIFY THE ANNUAL MECHANISM , INSTEAD OF JUST DISAGREEMENT . THERE ARE AGREEMENTS LONGER OR MORE IN PERPETUITY. >> THE FUNDING, AT YOUR DISCRETION , THAT IS A ONE-TIME OCCURRENCE. >> THE GRANT FUNDING, NOT TO EXCEED $40,000 , THROUGH 2025? NOT TO EXCEED $40,000, THE COUNCIL IF THEY DECIDE TO MAKE THAT ZERO? >> IT WOULD REQUIRE BOTH PARTIES. >> THIS IS PUTTING US INTO THE OTHER GRANT PROGRAM GROUPS. FOLLOWING ALONG THE SAME LINES, AS IS YOUR DISCRETION? >> MAKE A CONTRACT , SO , WHAT WE CAN DO IS AUTOMATICALLY RELIEVE , UNLESS SOMEONE GIVES NOTICE, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GO FORWARD? >> WE WANT THIS TO BE AN ONGOING SITUATION. I REALLY DID NOT FEEL IT NECESSARILY WAS WORKING OUT RIGHT. I MEAN , THE INTENT TO CONTINUE ON, TO REVIEW IT ANNUALLY , YOU KNOW? >> I MEAN, THIS IS ENTIRELY AT THE COUNCIL'S DISCRETION. WITHIN AN EXISTING PROGRAM, YOU CAN CHANGE THIS ONE, YOU COULD CHANGE ANYTHING. >> >> HE DOES HAVE THE FUNDING AGREEMENT . >> WELL ? >> SO, WHAT IF THE LANGUAGE WAS AGREED TO, BY BOTH PARTIES. >> UNILATERAL AUTHORITY. >> TO BE REVIEWED . >> THAT IS ALREADY IN THERE. IT IS NOT BINDING , BUT FARTHER DOWN , IT AUTOMATICALLY WILL RENEW, UNLESS SOMEBODY STOPS IT. >> JUST TO CLARIFY , IT DOES TALK ABOUT EQUIPMENT AND MATERIALS. AND IT DOES ALLOW -- I GUESS, WHAT I AM ASKING , THAT IT HAD BEEN USED, OR IS IT MORE, WOULD THEY REQUEST AN AMOUNT FOR A PARTICULAR ITEM? >> THEY WILL SEND AN INVOICE , ONCE THIS IS APPROVED, THEY WILL [01:50:07] SEND OUT THE AMOUNT CONSISTENT . >> IT IS THE ABILITY ] . >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> VICTORIA , ARTICLE 2.1 , THE $40,000 GRANT ALLOWED WOULD WE REDRAFT AND REEXECUTE THESE AGREEMENTS EVERY YEAR? >> IT AUTOMATICALLY RENEWS EVERY FISCAL YEAR. IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THAT AMOUNT, YOU WILL HAVE TO AMEND IT OR TERMINATE IT. >> TO MICHELLE'S POINT , WOULD IT BE RENEWED EVERY FISCAL YEAR, OR , WHATEVER? >> WOULD IT BE TOTALLY UNNECESSARY? >> THIS SAYS IT WILL RENEW. STRIKE THAT LINE . IF THERE IS A PROGRAM . TO THIS , THAT WILL TAKE AN AMENDMENT. JUST LIKE ANY FUNDING AGREEMENT, THIS IS PUBLIC MONEY. TO DO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THE PUBLIC WE ARE GETTING SOMETHING THAT IS SERVING A PUBLIC PURPOSE. THAT IS WHAT THAT BIG MONITOR IS AT THE BACK, SHOWING THAT PUBLIC PURPOSE . AND WE COULD DO THAT SAME THING AGAIN. >> >> OKAY. >> THERE IS A RECOMMENDED CHANGE TO IDENTIFY IF THE AGREEMENT WERE TERMINATED, THE BALANCE WOULD BE RETURNED IN SECTION 2.2 EMMA AND MICHELLE'S RECOMMENDATION , THE VALUE, IN THIS CASE , THAT WOULD BE CONTINGENT ON KELLEY BLUE BOOK VALUE . AND AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT, NO ISSUE WITH THAT CHANGE ? MICHELLE , THAT EXTENDS TO THE END OF THIS AGREEMENT? >> IT WON'T BE . BUT IF THIS CITY WANTED TO BEND BACK , IN OTHER WORDS , IF WE ] THERE IS NO BOUNDS. >> 2020 ? >> JUST BEFORE COVID. >> THE GRANT EXPIRED IN '21. >> >> >> THE GOAL IS TO NOT GET IT BACK, WE WANT TO BE LEGAL. >> I WOULD SAY THE INITIAL YEAR OF THE AGREEMENT . YEAR ONE. PERSONALLY, UNLESS THERE IS MAJOR OBJECTION TO THAT. LET'S FIND A WAY TO PUT IT TO GOOD USE. >> IT IS NOT AN OPERATIONAL QUESTION. >> IS IT AN APPROPRIATE AMENDMENT? >> I DON'T THINK IT IS GOING TO [01:55:02] DEPRECIATE TO ZERO I WOULD PROBABLY SAY WE NEED A LITTLE LONGER PERIOD , OTHERWISE , THE REASON THAT IT IS PUT IN THERE , SHE IS IN THE HOSPITAL . THEY HAVE THE DONATED STUFF. IT IS INCUMBENT ON US TO SAY, WE ARE GOING TO TERMINATE THIS AGREEMENT. SO, YOU KNOW, $28,000 CAR THERE. >> ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THREE YEARS? >> IT IS BETTER THAN FOREVER. >> MORE REASONABLE. >> I AM NOT SURE WHO IS TRACKING CHANGES. >> ANYMORE CHANGES , PLEASE? >> BRITNEY? JUST TO CONFIRM, YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE SUGGESTED CHANGES? >> WHAT DID YOU HAVE? >> JUST A LITTLE MORE CLARIFICATION ON ITEM 4.1 , IT SAYS GRANT MONEY SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR PRIVATE GAIN , OR THE , I WANT TO BE CLEAR THIS DOES NOT GO TO SALARY OR ANY -- THE $40,000? >> THERE ARE NO RESTRICTIONS. >> QUESTION FOR VICTORIA, I AM IN THE SAME BOAT WITH THE 4.7, ANY OF THE MATERIALS MAY BE ASSIGNED TO ANY ENTITY OF THE CONTRACTOR. IS PAYROLL CONSIDERED ASSIGNMENT OF FUNDS? >> NO. >> IF YOU WANT TO , YOU CAN PUT SOME SOT OF LIMIT ON IT. MY IMPRESSION , IT WAS NOT COVERED. >> THEY ARE PROGRAMMATIC IN NATURE, NOT BEING USED TOWARDS SALARIES. >> THE GRANT FROM 2023, FISCAL YEAR 2023-24, IF THAT WAS CORRECT, LAST YEAR , THAT WAS CHANGED , AND THE EXCLUSION DOES NOT EXCLUDE SALARIES . THAT IS ATTACHMENT D , TO WHAT HAS BEEN SALABLE ACTIVITIES . THE FUNDRAISING VETERAN -- APPRECIATION , THE UNDERWRITING FINANCIAL WAS LAST YEAR'S ? >> PART OF THIS COMING YEAR. >> THIS IS THIS COMING YEAR'S CONTRACT. >> FOR THE COMMUNITY SERVICES GRANT PROGRAM , THAT IS ATTACHED TO THIS . >> I MEAN , I AM GUESSING, BASED ON THAT INFORMATION . KEEP ROWLETT BEAUTIFUL , USING SOME OF THESE FUNDS TOWARDS SALARY EXPENSE? >> CORRECT. YOU HAVE A PART-TIME EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR . THESE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS , WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATION . AND COLLECTING THE COSTS AND INVOICING TO THE NEXT LEVEL. IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND, IN ADDITION -- I HAD ANOTHER THOUGHT. >> >> YEAH. SO -- >> PROVIDING THESE PUBLIC SERVICES WOULD REQUIRE MORE? >> JUST FOR CLARITY, JUST FOR CLARITY. >> YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO AUDIT. [02:00:03] IF YOU SPOT SOMEBODY GIVING SOMEBODY $40,000 IN SALARY AND YOU DON'T LIKE THAT -- >> WELL, THE OTHER OPPORTUNITY , THAT WILL BE SITTING IN ON A BUNCH OF DISCUSSIONS GOING FORWARD . AND THE PLAN TO REEVALUATE . MAKING THAT BALANCE. >> SALARIES? >> I KNEW THAT SOMEBODY WAS GOING TO ASK A QUESTION LIKE THAT. WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY AN APPROXIMATE $83,000 BUDGET FOR THE YEAR , PAYROLL EXPENSES , WHEN WE PUT THE BUDGET TOGETHER, FOR EXPENSES. THEY WERE AT $30,000. >> SO, ESSENTIALLY , >> ADMINISTRATIVE SALARIES WERE RIGHT AT 23,000. >> EXPENSES , OR TOTAL REVENUE? DOES THAT INCLUDE THE CITY'S PIECE LAST YEAR? >> NO. >> THIS IS ANOTHER THING, WE ARE CALENDAR YEAR . WE HAVE TO REDO THE CALENDAR YEAR. IT DID NOT HAVE THE 2024 TO 2025 . >> OUTSIDE OF FUNDING? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> THE BUDGET . WE WILL HAVE TO RAISE IT IN OUTSIDE GRANTS . COME UP WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDING . >> YOU ARE NOT PRECLUDED FROM THE DISAGREEMENT. TO YOUR POINT , IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS PROGRAMMATIC EXPERIENCES . BETWEEN THE TO LOOK AT IT THAT WAY, OR IT COULD BE JUST A SALARY, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT THAT WAY. I AM OKAY WITH THAT . BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT YOU WANT TO DO, THE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE. HOW MUCH WORK DID YOU ALL DO ON WHAT WAS AWARDED IN 2022? >> IF YOU WERE TO GIVE IT A PERCENTAGE SHARE VERSUS WHAT THE CITY DID TO GET THAT ACROSS THE CITY LINE, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? >> A MONTH AND A HALF . INAUDIBLE ] THAT INCLUDES GATHERING THE INFORMATION INAUDIBLE ] IT IS ABOUT 6000 MORE. THE TERM IS SIGNIFICANT. IT IS A GREAT INVESTMENT OF TIME . >> I WOULD ARGUE [02:05:12] EVENT LIKE THE ROWLETT CITY CLEANUP, THAT IS A BIG DEAL . IT IS A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF HOURS AND I THINK WE ARE GETTING A GREAT VALUE FOR THE $40,000. I ALWAYS WANT TO BE A CHAMPION OF KEEP ROWLETT BEAUTIFUL. I HAVE WATCHED THEM DO THE HARD WORK, YOU ARE OUT THERE AND THEY DO A GREAT JOB . IT IS VERY BENEFICIAL, THEY LEARN HOW TO RECYCLE AND THEY LEARN A LOT OF SKILLS. SO, I THINK IT IS AN INCREDIBLE INVESTMENT IN THE CITY OF ROWLETT. I AM A KEY SUPPORTER. >> THIS LAST WEEK , WE WENT TO ONE OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. AND PLANTED AROUND THREE TREES. AND THEY WANTED TO TAKE EDUCATION, AND WE EVEN HAD KIDS, I HAVE KIDS, THEY WERE EVEN IN THE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE PART OF. >> LET'S DIVE BACK INTO THE AMENDMENTS. ARTICLE FOUR, PARAGRAPH 4.3, IT IDENTIFIES WHEN THE REPORTING PERIOD WOULD START, ANY ISSUES WITH THAT? THE NEXT ONE IS ARTICLE 4, OR, ARTICLE SIX, PARAGRAPH 6.2 , THAT WOULD ADD THE WORDS AND FUNDING SHALL BE SUBJECT TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. >> THE FUNDING IS NOT THE ONLY BENEFIT . THE STAFF SUPPORT . THE CITY STAFF SUPPORT. >> IN ESSENCE , IT IS ALREADY INCLUDED , IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. >> WE WILL NOT MAKE THAT CHANGE. ITEM 6, PARAGRAPH 10.2, AND THAT IS CLARIFICATION OF THE COUNCIL'S ASIAN DECIDED -- COUNCIL APPROVING THE AGREEMENT, AND COUNCIL SHOULD BE THE ONE TO DISAPPROVE THE AGREEMENT. WE WILL ADJUST THAT LANGUAGE TO , OR, IS IT ALREADY CLEAR? >> IT IS ALREADY CLEAR . ONLY THE COUNCIL CAN APPROVE OR AMEND IT. >> MICHELLE, ANY CONCERN? >> NO. >> DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS , THAT IS PURSUANT TO THE PART-TIME NATURE . THAT IS PARAGRAPH 11.10 . THAT IS WITH AN AUDIT. >> WE MAY NOT BE IN THE OFFICE FOR THIS NOTIFICATION. >> I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. I WOULD NOT EXPECT TO WALK INTO ANYONE'S PLACE OF BUSINESS AND SAY, SHOW ME YOUR BOOKS, AND HAVE A PRESENTATION. >> AGAIN , THAT IS JUST ANOTHER PAGE. SO, A COUPLE QUESTIONS. YOU MENTIONED THAT THE CITY WAS NOT INTENDING TO CHARGE PERMIT FEES. I APPRECIATE THAT. COULD WE, OR SHOULD WE, MEMORIALIZE THAT SO THAT IT IS CLEAR. LET US PLEASE DO THAT. AND THEN , IN THE EXHIBIT A , THE LIST OF RESPONSIBILITIES, IS THAT WHAT THEY ARE LIMITED TO? AT MINIMUM YOU CAN DO ANYTHING ELSE, AND [02:10:02] TYPES OF VENTURES INVOLVED? THEY ARE NOT PRECLUDED FROM PARTICIPATING. >> THEY DO MORE THAN THAT. WE DID NOT FEEL LIKE IT WAS NECESSARY FOR INCLUSION. >> WE WANTED TO BE SURE THAT THEY WERE NOT IN THE WAY. WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS? >> IF WE GO BACK TO THE TWO-WEEK NOTICE , THE POLLINATOR GARDEN PURPOSES AT LEAST TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE, ARE YOU SAYING THEY CANNOT GO OUT AND WE'D THE POLLINATOR GARDENS? SINCE THURSDAY ? I THINK THAT IS MAYBE A LITTLE RESTRICTIVE. >> WE WILL NOT HAVE TO BOOK THE ACTIVITIES. PUBLIC MAINTENANCE IS OUT THERE, IF WE HAVE A SPECIAL EVENT AT THE PARK, AND PARKING WOULD BE AN ISSUE. TO BE ABLE TO DO MAINTENANCE WORK, THAT IS GIVING US THE HEADS UP THAT THEY WILL BE OUT THERE SO NOTE THAT THEY WILL BE OUT THERE. >> I FIND THAT OVERLY RESTRICTIVE , BECAUSE THINGS BLOOM . THINGS DIE. I MEAN , IT IS NOTHING PERSONAL FROM A SERIOUS STANDPOINT. >> ALL OF THIS IS NEGOTIABLE. THE RATIONALE WAS FOR OPERATIONAL EFFECTIVENESS . WE WILL DEAL WITH IT AS BEST AS WE CAN AND THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE. >> I FEEL LIKE, I GO UP AND THE PARKING LOT IS CRAMMED FULL OF PEOPLE. AND I JUST THINK -- >> I WOULD SAY DEPENDING ON THE POSITION. >> YEAH. >> PART OF THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAD BEFORE IS COMMUNICATION. AND HAVING THE AMOUNT OF TIME AHEAD OF TIME SHOWS THAT WE ARE COMING TOGETHER AND I APPRECIATE BEING ABLE AND WE CAN WORK WITH IT NOW. WE ALSO HAVE PUBLIC PARKS. AND PEOPLE THAT IS THE OTHER THING. >> YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME LEVEL OF NOTICE . >> I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE GET THAT SITUATION WHERE WE GO TO THE PHOENIX FARM. AND PLANT WILDFIRES -- WILDFLOWERS. IT IS A NICE EVENT. GREAT DAY , GREAT, WE ARE OUT THERE, AND WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR WAS TO TURN OUT THE IRRIGATION. AND NOW , YOU HAVE A WHOLE SERIES OF PEOPLE INVOLVED IN IT WITH NO IDEA OF WHAT IS GOING ON, FROM A PRACTICAL OPERATING SYSTEM, IF EVERYONE KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING, IT IS FINE , EVERYTHING WORKS FINE. THE POINT REALLY, THEY ARE COMPLETELY BLIND TO EVERYBODY. YOU DID NOT KNOW WHAT THEY WERE MOWING DOWN. I THINK IT WORKS TO THE BENEFIT OF EVERYBODY. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE COMPLETELY CLEAR, YOU ALL HAVE ONE CONTACT PERSON TO GO THROUGH FOR THAT NOTIFICATION PROCESS. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO CALL. AND BY ONBOARD, IT IS ONE PERSON. AND THAT ONE PERSON DECIDES, THEY HAVE GOT TO GO TO [02:15:03] THE BEACH AND THEN THERE IS A SECOND CONTACT PERSON. >> >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION WE NEED FROM STAFF. >> I AM GOOD. ONCE AGAIN. >> WE APPRECIATE YOUR GREAT WORK, TOO. THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO. YOU ARE A VALUABLE ASSET. >> THANK YOU. WE COULD GO ON FOREVER. >> WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A BRIEF RECESS AND >> ALL RIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO RECONVENE OUR WORK SESSION. WE [4C. Presentation regarding options to contract for the improvement of the Kids Kingdom play facility.] ARE GOING TO RECONVENE. IT IS 8:56 P.M. WE ARE MOVING ONTO I 4C. PRESENTATION REGARDING OPTIONS TO CONTRACT FOR THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE KIDS KINGDOM PLAY FACILITY. >> LET'S ADDRESS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM BUT REALLY NOT, WHY ARE WE BRINGING THIS I CAN BEFORE YOU? I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH ALL OF YOU TO BE DEGREES OF UNDERSTANDING THAT PERHAPS WE WERE ALLOWING EMPLOYEES TO GIVE US INFORMATION THAT A FORMER EMPLOYEE DIDN'T PROVIDE THE FULL AMOUNT OF INFORMATION WE THOUGHT WE HAD GIVEN TO YOU. ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE PRIDED MYSELF ON IS WE GIVE YOU EVERY OPTION WHETHER WE LIKE THEM OR NOT, WHETHER YOU LIKE THEM OR NOT, WE GIVE YOU THE OPTIONS. WE HAD A CONVERSATION WHERE ONE OF THE OPTIONS WAS TO DEMOLISH IT. MAYBE IT WASN'T A REALISTIC OPTION BUT WAS AN OPTION. AS WE LEARN THAT WE HADN'T GIVING YOU FULL INFORMATION, I IMMEDIATELY PLACED A HOLD TO THE PROJECT. SO, LET ME BE CLEAR THAT THIS IS NOT A CASE WHERE THERE WAS ANY KIND OF MALFEASANCE OR WRONGDOING, FINANCIAL IMPROPRIETY, ., AND IN PROPRIETY, OR OTHERWISE, BUT IT IS A VERY CLEAR CASE WHERE WE DIDN'T GIVE YOU THE FULL AMOUNT OF PERTINENT MATERIAL, VALUABLE INFORMATION THAT IS DISPOSITIVE IN HOW YOU MAKE THIS DECISION. SO, WE STOPPED EVERYTHING. TO DATE, WE HAVE NOT INCURRED ANY COSTS. NOTHING HAS BEEN TORN DOWN. WE HAVE LOST, UNFORTUNATELY OR OTHERWISE, IS TIME AND SOME DEGREE OF REPUTATIONAL HARM . FOR THAT, OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE TO APOLOGIZE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GIVE YOU EVERY BIT OF INFORMATION THAT WE ARE AWARE OF WHEN WE BRING THESE ITEMS TO DO, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THIS IMPORTANT AND WE DIDN'T DO THAT. THANKFULLY, NO HARM IN TERMS OF THE PROJECT HAS BEEN DONE. NOW WE COME BACK BEFORE YOU. ONE OF THE POINTS THAT I THINK WAS DISPOSITIVE TO YOU IS WE ASSERTED THAT WE STRUGGLE TO FIND VENDORS WHO WERE WILLING TO DISSIPATE IN A FULL-SCALE RENOVATION OF THIS PROJECT. TO DO SO AT A PACE THAT MADE ANY APPRECIABLE SENSE. WE ALSO STARTED TO YOU THAT IN ORDER TO LEGITIMATELY RENOVATE THIS FACILITY, THAT WE WOULD MOST LIKELY, WE WERE TOLD, MOST LIKELY HAVE TO DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURE BECOMES IF WE REPLACE THE PLAY SURFACE , THEN IT WAS MOST LIKELY WE WOULD DAMAGE THE EXISTING STRUCTURAL APPARATUS. WE HAVE FOUND THAT THAT IS NOT EXACTLY ACCURATE. SO, UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE GIVEN YOU THIS INFORMATION WHERE SOME CONSISTENCIES, SOME GAPS OF INFORMATION EXIST, WE STOPPED, WE WENT BACK TO WE GATHERED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. WE TALKED TO THE ORIGINAL, THE SECONDARY VENDOR, WHO DIRECTED THIS VERSION OF THE PLAY FEATURE. I HAVE ASKED FOR A PRESENTATION TO WALK US THROUGH. THAT PROPOSAL TO US AND CONTRAST IT WITH THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU CHOSE FOR. WE ARE ASKING THEREAFTER FOR YOUR DIRECTION AS TO WHICH OF THOSE YOU FIND MOST APPEALING AND WHICH DIRECTION TO GO IN. WITH THAT, WE WILL JUMP RIGHT INTO THIS . >> BEFORE WE DO THAT, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE DIDN'T HAPPEN UPON THIS INFORMATION ON OUR OWN ACCORD. THIS WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION BY A MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE HER. SHE KNOWS WHO SHE IS. WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE HER. WITHOUT HER, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY. WE WOULD BE BUILDING A PARK WE PROBABLY DON'T NEED TO BUILD. >> INDEED, THANK YOU. >> IN RESPONSE TO THAT, I'M [02:20:02] GOING TO GO THROUGH AN UNUSUAL LEVEL OF DETAIL IN THIS PRESENTATION. IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU ARE RENOVATING A PROJECT FOR THE SPECIFIC DETAILS OF THE RENOVATION. I'M GOING TO RUN THROUGH THAT BASED ON THE FEEDBACK. I'M GOING TO TRY TO DO IT QUICKLY. I'M JUST GETTING. CERTAINLY, IF I MOVE TOO FAST, AT ANY TIME, PLEASE DO ASK ME TO PAUSE. ASKING A CLARIFYING QUESTION. WE WILL GO THROUGH THE DEMOLITION PLAN, WHAT GOES AWAY, WHAT IS UPDATED TO THE EXISTING FEATURES, WHAT NEW FEATURES ARE PROPOSED, THE SURFACES, WHAT IS THE SURFACING. WE MENTIONED ALL THE SURFACING WOULD BE REMOVED AS PART OF THIS AND REPLACED. WE HAVE SAMPLES HERE, WHICH WE WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT, AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON SYMBOLS AND COLORS, TALK ABOUT OPTIONS, COSTS, AND TIMING, AND GET THE DIRECTION. THIS IS A BY DESIGN, THEY ARE THE ORIGINAL DESIGNERS, INSTALLERS OF THE PROJECT AS IT SITS UP THERE RIGHT NOW. THIS PROJECT WOULD MAINTAIN THE FOUNDATIONS AND STRUCTURAL COMPONENTS OF THE WOULD LIKE SURFACES, UPRIGHTS, STRUCTURES WOULD STAY IN PLACE AND IT REMOVES THE BROKEN, ONE COMPONENTS AND REPLACES THOSE AND IT REPLACES ALL OF THE PLAY SURFACE WITH A COUPLE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. IT STANDS TO ADD A COUPLE NEW FEATURES. THIS IS THE DEMOLITION PLAN. THIS IS WHAT IS TAKEN AWAY FROM THE STRUCTURES. THE SLIDES ARE UPDATED. SOME THINGS HAVE RUBBED OFF. THOSE WOULD BE REMOVED. YOU HAVE THE MERRY-GO-ROUND OVER THERE THAT IS WELL-OFF, STILL DOES WORK BUT IS SHOWING ITS AGE. THOSE PIECES WOULD BE REMOVED. THERE IS A DOWNTURN THAT HASN'T BEEN WORKING FOR SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE REMOVED. SLIDES, CLIMBERS, CARGO NET, ALL OF THOSE PIECES THAT ARE WEARING, THAT WOULD BE REMOVED, THE EXISTING SWINGSET WOULD BE REMOVED AND THERE IS A FENCE IN THE BACK THAT WOULD BE REMOVED AS WELL. OVER HERE, SIMILARLY, WE HAVE A SPINNER. WE HAVE A SINGLE SWING TO BE REMOVED. SLIDES, EXISTING STEPS AND AN EXISTING RUBBER BRIDGE AREA WOULD BE REMOVED AS WELL. WE ALSO HAVE A FENCE THAT WAS A LITTLE TOO CLOSE TO THE ENDING POINT OF THE ZIP LINE WHERE IT DOESN'T MEET CURRENT SAFETY STANDARDS SO THE FENCE WOULD BE VACATED OUT OF THAT ZONE. THAT IS KIND OF THE DEMOLITION PLAN. >> BUT, ADDITIONAL FENCING WOULD REPLACE IT. >> IT WOULD BE MOVED. YES. SO, A NEW SLIDE WOULD GO IN. YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER SLIDE OVER THERE. THESE ARE JUST NEWER SLIDES. YOU HAVE A NEW CLIMBING FEATURE THAT REPLACES THE EXISTING CLIMBING ROPES. YOU HAVE A NEW BRIDGE. INSTEAD OF THE CRADLE THAT, YOU HAVE A BRIDGE THAT GOES IN. YOU HAVE THIS CLAIMING NET RIGHT ON THAT LINE, THE VERTICAL CLIMBING NET. THEN YOU HAVE THIS TUBULAR ROPE BRIDGE THAT GOES BETWEEN THE STRUCTURES. THAT IS KIND OF HOW YOU TAKE THEM AWAY AND PUT NEW FEATURES IN PLACE. WHEN YOU GET THIS ACTIVITY PORTAL. THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A LITTLE VEHICLE THAT YOU PUT IN, THEY CALL THAT STEM ACTIVITY PANELS, THAT IS ON THE LOWER LEFT. THEN, WE DO PUT IN A NEW WALL, THIS IS THE EXACT SAME MODEL, IT IS JUST KNEW. WELL OF, WILL USE THE. IT WOULD BE REPLACED WITH THE NEW VERSION OF THE SAME APPARATUS. IN THIS AREA, WE'VE GOT A NEW COMPOSITE SLIDE GOING IN WITH SOME NEW FEATURES AND TRIANGULAR NETS AT THE BOTTOM. WE HAVE ANOTHER ROPE BRIDGE VERSION, WHICH IS MORE DIFFICULT TO CLAIM AND THE CARGO NET. REPLACING THE SPINNERS WITH BRAND-NEW SPINNERS. THIS IS A DIFFERENT CLIMBING FEATURE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STRUCTURE. OVER THERE, YOU HAVE THESE EXISTING STEPS AND WE WILL PUT NEW STEPS IN PLACE, A NEW SLIDE. AND YOU HAVE THIS LITTLE CARGO NET. SOME SIMILAR PIECES I CAN SHOW YOU ON THE NEXT SLIDE. ALL OF THEM HANDRAILS WILL BE REPLACED, ALL OF THE HANDGRIPS, WHICH ARE ON THE LOWER LEFT, WILL BE [02:25:02] REPLACED. ALL OF THE POST CAPS. ALL OF THE POSTS HAVE THE PYRAMID CAPS. THOSE WILL BE REMOVED. THE ENTRY, SOME OF THE ROOFING IS COMING LOOSE, SOME OF IT IS FADED. THE TREE HOUSE IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A ROOF IN IT. THAT ROOF HAS BEEN PULLED OUT, WHICH ALLOWS THE CHILDREN TO CLIMB UP INSIDE THAT., WHICH IS BE REPLACED. ALL SWINGS, SEATS, AND CHAINS WILL BE REPLACED. WE WILL HAVE SOME NEW FEATURES. THIS IS A NEW CLIMBING FEATURE. IT IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE A WATER TOWER LIKE THE CITY OF ROWLETT. NICE BIG SLIDE COMING OUT. AND THEN THERE ARE SOME OBSTACLES TO GET UP TO THE SLIDE. THAT WOULD BE A NEW FOCAL POINT. THIS IS ANOTHER PICTURE OF A SIMILAR FACILITY FROM ANOTHER COMPANY. IT WILL HAVE A NEW CLIMBING ROLLING SITTING UP IN THE UPPER RIGHT. CURRENTLY JUST A PICNIC TABLE THERE THIS WOULD CREATE A NEW ACTIVITY IN THAT CORNER. IT WOULD REPLACE THE EXISTING SWINGSET WITH A COVERED SWINGSET. SOME SHADE FOR THE SWINGS AND THEN YOU HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SWING, EVERYTHING FROM THE TODDLER TO THE ACCESSIBLE SWINGS TO THE SWINGS. THEN, OVER THERE, WHERE WE HAVE CURRENTLY THE ONE SWING, WE WILL HAVE TWO. THE PLANCK THING AND THE ROUND THING. THOSE ARE OF COURSE TECHNICAL TERMS. IT IS A GLIDER. ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE ARE ADDING IS SHADE. WE DO BRING IN SOME OF THE SUN SAILS TO BRING IN SHADE AND WE HAVE ADDITIONAL FEATURES. THE LITTLE SLIDE AREA, WHICH LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE MUSHROOM ON THE DRAWING. WE HAVE THE SPINNER, WHICH IS THIS PLASTIC SPINNER. IT IS A BOLTED SPINNER. THEN YOU HAVE SOME AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE SOME TIC-TAC-TOE BOARDS ALONG THE FENCE. WE ALSO HAVE AN ANALOG TO THE TEETER TOTTER THAT IS SAFER. WE HAVE THIS TORTURE CHAMBER SORT OF ROLLER TABLE . THEN YOU HAVE SOME ACTIVITIES ON THE FENCES. OVER BY THIS AREA, WHICH IS CURRENTLY NOT ACTIVATED, YOU GET THIS VERY NICE MUSICAL FACILITY. IT IS AN AREA WHERE THEY CAN MAKE SOUND, DRUMS AND SO FORTH. A LITTLE COLLISION DEVICE. SPIN IT AND YOU CAN MOVE THROUGH. THOSE ARE ALL THE NEW FEATURES. UPDATED EXISTING, NEW, THEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE SURFACES. WE HAVE THE SURFACE OUT THERE NOW AND WE HAVE THESE OPTIONS. THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PRICING OPTIONS. THE TURF OPTIONS ARE IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER OVER HERE. PASS THAT ALONG. >> THOSE ARE SAMPLES. PLEASE PASS THEM AROUND. >> THAT ONE IS THE ULTRA, OPTION TWO. AND, THAT IS THE LOWER COST. ONE HAS A 10 YEAR WARRANTY, ONE HAS A 15 YEAR WARRANTY. THE PORT IN PLACE IS THE TOP ONE, WHICH IS THIS MATERIAL. YOU WILL NOTICE IT GIVES YOU A 75-25. THAT IS THE RATIO OF BLACK TO COLOR. THE BLACK, AS IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME, THE PLAQUE IS FROM TIRES. SO, IT DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME DURABILITY AS OF THE COLOR, WHICH IS A MANUFACTURED MATERIAL SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PURPOSE. IF YOU HAVE A HIGHER CONTENT OF THE COLOR, YOU HAVE A MORE STABLE PRODUCT. 75-25 IS A 75% COLOR, 25% BLACK. OPTION 2 IS A 50-50. 50% BLACK. AND WE CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE [02:30:02] COLOR AS WE WILL WITH THE TURF. >> IS THE IDEA TO HAVE SOME POURED IN PLACE AND SOME TURF? >> OF THE LIGHT GREEN IS PROPOSED TO BE POURED IN PLACE, THE DARK GREEN IS PROPOSED TO BE TURF. BOTH HAVE THE SAME PROTECTIVE VALUE AS FAR AS CUSHIONING. THE SAME SAFETY. HE RECOMMENDS THE TURF IN THE TOP AREA AND IT IS A LITTLE LESS LIKELY TO DO A RUG BURN SITUATION AND IT TOLERATES THE SAND FROM THE SAND A LITTLE BETTER FROM A MAINTENANCE PERSPECTIVE. >> ARE ALL THESE EQUAL IN DURABILITY? >> THIS IS WARRANTY, THIS IS LESS WARRANTY. THIS, YOU CAN GET 10 TO 15. THIS IS A 15 YEAR WARRANTY. THE OTHER ONE, THAT ONE IS A 10 YEAR WARRANTY. POURED IN PLACE IS AROUND SEVEN YEARS. THEY DON'T GIVE YOU THE SAME WARRANTY WITH THIS PRODUCT AS THEY DO WITH THIS PRODUCT. FOR HIGH-TRAFFIC AREAS, THIS ONE IS PREFERRED. IN THE OLDER CHILDREN, ROUGH PLAY, THEY RECOMMEND POURED IN PLACE. YOUNGER KIDS, THEY RECOMMEND TURF. >>, I ASKED A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT TURF? >> YES. >> THERE ARE NUMEROUS DIFFERENT HEIGHTS AND SOME OF THEM HAVE THE FIBER INFILL, ESPECIALLY THE BIGGER ONES UNDERNEATH THEM, TO ANY OR ALL OF THESE REQUIRE SOME SORT OF INFILL OR RESURFACING, DO THESE REQUIRE RUBBER INFILL OR DO THEY STANDALONE? >> THESE ARE STAND-ALONE PRODUCTS. YOU CERTAINLY CAN GET ONES THAT DO REQUIRE YOU KNOW, FOR SPORT FIELDS. THESE ARE NOT THAT PRODUCT. >> WE DON'T HAVE THAT MAINTENANCE ISSUE OR ADDITIONAL COST? >> THERE ARE MAINTENANCE ISSUES THAT GO WITH TURF . YOU HAVE TO KEEP IT CLEAN. YOU HAVE TO OCCASIONALLY, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO WATER IT. WE HAD A BIG DEBATE ABOUT WHICH ONE STANDS UP TO CHILD VOMIT BETTER THAN THE OTHERS. >> THAT WILL HAPPEN. >> THE OTHER ONE IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH ARTIFICIAL TURF IS HEAT, TO KENNERLY LATE SUMMER, 6:00, IT STARTS TO GET REALLY HOT. HAVE THEY GIVEN ANY INDICATION THAT THERE HEIGHT OR COLOR OR ANYTHING WE ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW TENDS TO BE COOLER IN THE REALLY HOT SITUATIONS OR IS THAT NOT ANYTHING ANYONE HAS ADDRESSED? >> THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT. WE CERTAINLY DID RECOGNIZE THAT BOTH OF THESE SURFACES CAN GET HOT. COURSE, WITH ANYTHING, THE DARKER THE COLOR, THE MORE LIKELY IT IS TO GET HOT. IN OTHER APPLICATIONS, WE WATER THE TURF TO TRY TO JUST KEEP IT MAINTAINED BUT ALSO KEEP IT COOL. >> WHICH ONE HAD THE LONGEST? THE LONGEST WARRANTY? FOR FADING, DO THEY FADE? >> WE GET A LOT OF HOT SUN. I DIDN'T HAVE THAT SPECIFIC DECISION >> WHERE WERE THE SUN SAILS GOING TO GO? >> THEY GO OVER THE TOT AREA, RIGHT WHERE THE SF IS. THEN, OF COURSE, THE SWINGS. THAT WHOLE AREA THERE. YES. AND, ONE OF THE AREAS RIGHT IN THE CENTER, YOU CAN SEE THE DOTTED AREA, THAT IS THE LUNCH AREA. IT CURRENTLY HAS THIS SURFACE, WHICH WE ALL AGREE DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE. THIS IS HARD TO CLEAN. THE IDEA IS TO HAVE THAT BE CONCRETE SO IT IS EASIER TO CLEAN. IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE SOFT. YOU ARE EATING LUNCH THERE. THERE YOU GO. VOMIT, KETCHUP, MUSTARD, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, EASIER TO MAINTAIN. SO, I'VE GIVEN YOU BASICALLY, IN THE NEXT SECTION, AND UPPER AND LOWER LIMIT. YOU CAN TAKE THE HIGH QUALITY OPTIONS ON BOTH, YOUR MAXIMUM PRICE IS 1.1466. YOU TAKE THE LOWER VOLUME ON BOTH, YOUR TOTAL IS 1.4. IF YOU PICK DIFFERENT OPTIONS BETWEEN THAT, THEN, OF COURSE, YOU GET A PRICE SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN THAT. IF YOU WERE TO GO FOR THE MOST EXPENSIVE OPTION, IF YOU WERE TO CHOOSE ONE OF THESE OTHERS THAT MAYBE DOESN'T HAVE AS TALL, THEN YOU WOULD EXPECT THAT PRICE [02:35:03] TO BE SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE. CERTAINLY, WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO TAKE THE VERSION OF CLASS THAT YOU LIKE BEST. WHAT THEY HAVE ALSO SUGGESTED, AND I HAVEN'T COVERED THIS, YOU WILL NOTICE THE BLUE AROUND THE ACTIVE AREAS. WHAT THEY ARE RECOMMENDING IS A DIFFERENT COLOR, DIFFERENT QUALITY OF PRODUCT IN THE HIGH WEAR AREAS, THE AREAS AROUND THE MERRY-GO-ROUND, THEY ARE RECOMMENDING A DIFFERENT COLOR AND ONE THAT IS MOSTLY COLOR AS OPPOSED TO HAVING THE BLACK IN IT SO IT IS MORE STABLE IN THE HIGH TRADE AREAS. SIMILARLY, THEY ARE RECOMMENDING THE HIGHER WARRANTY TURF AROUND THE ACTIVE AREAS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN BLUE. IT GIVES YOU THE OPTION . I KNOW THESE ARE SHOWN IN GREEN AND BLUE. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE OTHER OPTIONS. IF YOU LIKE MOST OF THE GRASS BEING GREEN BUT THEN HAVING DIFFERENT COLOR AROUND THE FACILITIES, YOU CAN GO TO TWO OR YELLOW. WITH THE POURED IN PLACE, YOU BASICALLY HAVE UNLIMITED OPTIONS AS FAR AS COLOR . SO, IF YOU WANT THAT TO ALL BE GREEN, IT CAN ALL BE GREEN. THE GREEN IS DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER ONE. THEY ARE RECOMMENDING GREEN, NOT SURE WHY. IF YOU WANT IT TO BE A DIFFERENT COLOR, THAT IS WHERE WE ARE LOOKING FOR THAT FEEDBACK. YOUR COST OPTIONS ARE BETWEEN BASICALLY 1,000,004 66, 1,000,004 01 REGARDLESS OF THE COLOR OPTIONS. >> SO 41 466 WOULD BE EVERYTHING HIGHEST END. >> THAT IS WHAT THE FINAL DESIGN FOR YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT. YOU CAN SEE AROUND THE ZIP LINE. THE FENCE IS MOVED . IT GIVES YOU A LITTLE MORE ROOM IN THE LANDING ZONE SO YOU DON'T HIT THE FENCE. OF COURSE, THIS WILL INCLUDE, THERE ARE SOME GRADING ISSUES THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED. THERE IS A CONTINGENCY. $60,000 WAS SENT. IF THEY PULL THIS UP AND THEY FIND BAD SOIL, THAT IS A CONTINGENCY. IF THE PROBLEM IS WORSE THAN THAT, THERE IS THE POTENTIAL THE COST COULD GO UP. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. THERE WILL BE SOME DISCOVERY WHEN WE PULL THE SURFACE. >> ON THE PLAY FEATURES, IS ANY THOUGHT BEING GIVEN TO SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS? >> THE SWINGS AND A NUMBER OF THE OTHER FEATURES ARE SPECIFICALLY ACCESSIBLE. ACTUALLY, THE WHIRLING THING IS ALREADY EXISTING, THAT IS ALSO ACCESSIBLE AS WELL. >> CAN YOU REMIND ME WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE OLD VERSION WE LOOK AT FIRST, DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT THAT NUMBER WAS? >> I WILL GIVE IT TO YOU IN A SECOND. >> I WANT TO ADDRESS, COUNCILMEMBER REAVES, THE PLAY STRUCTURE ITSELF, THE CASTLE AND STUFF, IT WAS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR ALL ABILITY ACCESS. TWO CHILD WHEELCHAIRS CAN GO EVERYWHERE. THEY CAN GO PARALLEL. THAT REALLY WAS ONE OF THE THEM OF THE SLIDES ARE PARTICULAR SLIDES FOR KIDS WITH COCHLEAR IMPLANTS. THERE WAS REALLY A LOT OF THOUGHT THAT WENT INTO THIS DESIGN . >> ONE OF THE QUESTIONS ASKED WAS ABOUT THE DECKING IN THE MAIN FACILITY. WE WERE ASKED WHETHER WE NEED TO REPLACE THE DECKING. THE DECK IS IN GOOD SHAPE AND WOULD LAST 10, 15 YEARS. >> FOR ALL OF THE SLIDES AND THE MERRY-GO-ROUND, YOU CALLED IT A WHIRLING THING, THOSE ARE ALL MATERIALS THAT WOULDN'T GET EXCESSIVELY HOT, CORRECT? >> THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. >> I HAVE CHILDHOOD MEMORIES OF THOSE. >> THE WHIRLY IS STILL METAL. THE OF METAL SLIDES THAT WE REPLACE WITH PLASTIC SLIDES. WE ARE IMPROVING SOME OF THAT CONDITION. >> I REMEMBER THAT THE CURRENT DECKING, IS THAT WOOD OR COMPOSITE? >> IT IS COMPOSITE. >> I DON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME THERE BUT I SEE THE KIDS HAVING A GOOD TIME ON THE ZIP LINE, IS THE ZIP LINE BASICALLY IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE? >> IT IS FIXED NOW. [02:40:02] >> WHEN THEY CAME OUT AND INSPECTED, THEY WERE ABLE TO SHOW US HOW TO APPROPRIATELY ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE THERE. >> OKAY. TIMING FOR THIS OPTION, THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT IN MAY , SO, 3 TO 4 DAYS, THE MAIN STRUCTURE REFURBISHMENT. THAT IS REPLACING THE SAFETY ISSUES, THAT IS THE POST CAPS, THE CEILINGS, THE BALUSTERS. ONE OF THE FEATURES WOULD BE REPLACED. IT IS SIMPLY STRUCTURES. THAT WOULD TAKE 3 TO 4 DAYS. THEY WOULD REPLACE ALL OF THAT. GET RID OF SOME OF THE SAFETY ISSUES AS FAR AS HANDRAILS. THEN, SOMETIME IN JULY OR AUGUST, DEPENDING ON NO EARLIER THAN JULY BECAUSE OF THE OPPORTUNITY OR THE NEED TO ORDER THINGS AND GET THEM IN PLACE, WE ARE GETTING CLOSE TO 4 TO 6 WEEKS FOR SURFACING, SELECTION OF ALL OF THE ELEMENTS. LET'S COMPARE THAT TO WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY SEEN. >> WE STILL DIDN'T GET SOME OF THE KEY FEEDBACK THAT WE NEED. SINCE YOU ARE STILL CLOSE TO THOSE SLIDES, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GET SOME DIRECTION ON WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO GO WITH THIS. >> ONE POINT WOULD BE THAT WE ARE THE TRUTH IS, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF TREES IN THAT TOP AREA SO TO SPEAK. THAT WILL CREATE SOME SHADE. YOU ARE ADDING, WHAT YOU PROPOSED IS ADDING SOME SHADE AREAS AS WELL. >> THE SWINGS, SWING SETS WILL BE SHADED AND THE SUN SAILS. >> THAT WILL HELP TO A CERTAIN EXTENT AS FAR AS PROVIDING SOME COOLING EFFECT . AND, THIS TURF, I THINK ASKED THIS QUESTION, DOES IT REQUIRE THE GLOBAL PELLETS TO HOLD IT DOWN? I THINK TWINS START PARK HAS TURF THAT HAS THE RUBBER PELLETS OR MAYBE SEND, SOMETHING THAT IS HOLDING IT DOWN. >> BOTH OF THOSE ARE USED AT DIFFERENT TIMES. >> THE ONE THAT THEY RECOMMENDED, WHAT EXACTLY, WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC PROPERTIES OF THAT THAT MAKE IT THE MOST ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THIS IS IT THE BALANCE FACTOR? >> IT IS A 15 YEAR WARRANTY. I BELIEVE, I HEARD THIS FROM YOU AS WELL, IT HAS THE BACKING. IT HAS A GOOD, STRONG BACKING. IT ALSO IS A THICKER, I GUESS, IS THAT THE RIGHT WORD, IT IS EXPECTED TO WEAR BETTER IN HIGH-TRAFFIC AREAS. IN THE MAIN AREAS, THEY ARE STILL RECOMMENDING THIS FOR THE TWO IDENTIFIED AREAS. >> FOR THE BACKING, WITH THE OTHER ONE, THE GOOD ONE WITH THE NONWOVEN FABRIC, SO YOU CAN REALLY SEE THAT IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE STRUCTURALLY IN THOSE PRODUCTS. >> HOW ARE THEY STITCHED TOGETHER AT THE INTERSECTIONS WHERE THEY INTERSECT? >> THEY COME IN MUCH LARGER SHEETS. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT WHERE THE BLUE CIRCLES ARE, IF WE WERE TO DO THE HIGHER TRAFFIC WERE BETTER QUALITY IN THE BLUE CIRCLES INTO THE OTHER OUTSIDE OF THAT, HOW WOULD THOSE BE CONNECTED? >> I DON'T KNOW. >> I WOULD BE CONCERNED BUT THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT WOULD START TO COME UP. >> NORMALLY WHAT THEY DO IS THEY USE HEAT ACTIVATED TAPE AND THEY PUT IT UNDERNEATH IT, THEY PUT IT OVER ALMOST LIKE AN IRON. IT IS WHAT THEY DO WITH AN NFL FIELD WHERE THEY CHANGE THE LOGO, IT IS THE SAME THING, THEY JUST RUN A HEATED DEVICE JUST WRITE DOWN AND IT KEEPS ACTIVATES AND IT IS ABOUT 12 INCHES WIDE. THAT IS NORMALLY HOW THEY DO IT. THE ONES I HAVE WORKED ON, THAT IS HEALTHY AND. >> YOU FEEL REASONABLY CONFIDENT? >> THE PROPERLY INSTALLED SEEM WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE. >> THIS WOULD BE IF YOU WENT WITH A LOWER COST FOR THE MAIN AREA AND THE HIGHER COST, THIS WOULD BE THE LOOK? >> ANY OF THESE OTHER SAMPLES. >> CERTAINLY, THERE ARE OTHER SAMPLES IF THERE ARE OTHERS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE GET PRICED. WE ARE OPEN TO ALL THOSE OPTIONS. >> IF WE ARE PRESENT THAT WITH THE LOWER COST ONE? >> THE OPTION ONE IS THIS OKAY , THAT IS OPTION ONE. [02:45:01] >> ALL RIGHT. >> THE LOWER COST IS THE MAIN AREAS, THE HIGHER COST FOR THE BLUE AREAS. AND OPTION TWO IS THIS EVERYWHERE. THEN, YOU JUST USE A COLOR. YOU ARE BASICALLY PUTTING THE HIGH-TRAFFIC ONE UBIQUITOUSLY THROUGH THAT AREA. AGAIN, YOU DO HAVE -- >> THAT HAS THE SAME KIND OF BACKING. >> ANYWAY, YOU CAN THINK ABOUT THAT. I DON'T SEE ANYONE FEELING STRONGLY. >> I LIKE OPTION ONE. I WOULD RATHER HAVE THE HIGHER QUALITY AROUND THE MORE TRAFFIC AREAS AND THE COST IS NOT DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT. WE KNOW IT IS GOING TO WEAR BETTER AND HAVE BETTER WARRANTY. I'M MORE OF THE TRADITIONALIST AND I LIKE GREENER BUT I AM NOT MARRIED TO THE COLOR. >> YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT PUTTING THE HIGH QUALITY EVERYWHERE? >> OPTION ONE IS JUST A HIGHER QUALITY IN THE BLUE. >> THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS. THEY ARE KIND OF CONFUSING. THEY ARE FLIPPED. WHAT IS YOUR PREFERENCE FOR THE POURED IN PLACE? >> LET ME GO BACK TO THE PERCENTAGES . >> OPTION ONE IS THE 75-25. IT HAS A BRIGHTER COLOR, LESS BLACK IN IT. >> WHAT IS THE CURRENT COLOR SCHEME OUT THERE? THAT IS WHAT I WAS THINKING. IS THERE A PLACE YOU WANT TO KEEP THAT OR DO YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT? >> IT WOULD BE COOLER. >> WHAT IS THE COLOR SCHEME ON THE NEW FEATURES WE ARE ADDING? ARE THOSE THE PHOTOS OF THE COLOR SCHEME WE HAVE SELECTED? >> MY UNDERSTANDING, THAT IS WHAT THEY COME IN. >> THERE IS THE YELLOW, THE BLUE. >> WOULD THAT BE THE ONE FEATURE? THE DARK BLUE. >> THAT IS GREEN. >> THE BLUE, HIGH WHERE SPOT. >> THAT IS KIND OF COOL LOOKING. I DO LIKE THE GREEN FOR THE LARGER. >> OR THE OTHER SLIDES ALSO BLUE? >> THOSE SLIDES ARE GRAY. THE OTHER SLIDES I BELIEVE ARE BLUE. >> BLUE, YELLOW, RED, THE PRIMARY COLORS SEEM TO BE THE BULK. >> JUST GOING TO THROW THIS, IS READ AN OPTION? NOT FOR THE. >> WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE ALL OF THE COLORS BUT RED IS AN OPTION. >> WHAT ABOUT THE RED WITH THE BLUE AROUND THE SLIDES? ANY OBJECTION TO THAT? >> I LIKE THE GREEN. WHAT DOES THE GREEN LOOK LIKE? >> THERE DEFINITELY IS A GREEN. >> WOULD YOU WANT THE TURF TO BE THE SAME COLOR? WHAT IF THEY CONFLICTED WHERE THEY MEET UP? WHAT IF THE GREEN WAS A LITTLE OFF, DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? >> THAT IS PRETTY MUCH ABOVE MY HEAD. >> I PERSONALLY LIKE CONTRASTING COLORS. THAT IS APPEALING TO THE KIDS. >> I THINK WE'VE GOT THE RED AND THE BLUE AND THE OTHER COLORS ON THE FEATURES THAT ARE ON THE LARGE PLAY STRUCTURE TO TIE THOSE IN. SO, THE RED THROUGHOUT THE BLUE IN THE FOCUS AREAS? IN THE POURED IN PLACE . >> THIS IS WHERE I STAY OUT OF IT. I'D HAVE TO ASK MY WIFE. >> WHERE IS THE POURED IN PLACE AGAIN? >> I AM OVER MY SKIS HERE. >> YOU WANT ALL OF THAT TO BE IN THE RED? >> EXCEPT FOR WHERE THERE IS HIGH-TRAFFIC. >> IT IS NOT LIKE BRIGHT RED. >> IT HAS A LOT OF BLACK IN IT. [02:50:03] >> IT IS NOT A REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE. >> IT WOULD BE THE 75-25. >> ONE THING TO SORT OF THINK ABOUT, NOT THE RIGHT ONE. LET'S GO BACK HERE. WHERE ARE WE ? WHERE IS THE WHIRLY? OKAY. SEE BEHIND THE WHIRLY, THE TAN? THAT IS A POURED IN PLACE COLOR. IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE WOOD-LIKE SURFACE . >> IT SORT OF LOOKS LIKE SECOND. >> THIS PARK IS GOING TO BE ALL BABIES. I AM SEEKING A BIG WOODEN STRUCTURE THAT IS BAKED INTO THE GROUND THAT IS SUBAGEN A SENSE THAT IS AGENT THIS IS GOING TO BE THE MOST CORPORATE AMERICA PLAY STRUCTURE EVER. >> JUST LIKE MY HOUSE. >> I SUSPECT THAT COLOR CHOICES, I DON'T, IS THIS A COLOR CHOICE WE NEED TO MAKE AT THIS MOMENT? CAN WE LOOK AT SOME DRAWINGS? >> WE CAN, IT WILL SIMPLY DELAY THE TIMELINE. WE ARE HAPPY TO COME BACK, IT IS JUST TIME. >> I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANYMORE TIME. >> WE SHOULD SETTLE ON SOME COLORS. >> I THINK THE TURF SHOULD BE GREEN. >> I LIKE THE GREEN POURED IN PLACE . >> IF THIS IS LIKE THAT, I WOULDN'T WANT TONS OF COLOR BECAUSE THE PLAY STRUCTURES HAVE COLOR BUT THIS IS IN MY BACKYARD. I WILL DEFER TO THE CITY COUNCIL. >> IT IS, IT HAS TREES, IT SORT OF HAS A NATURAL VIBE TO IT. AS AN ADULT LOOKING AT IT, MAYBE THIS IS WHAT KIDS WANT IT DOES SORT OF GREEN, SOME OF THESE MORE NEUTRAL, NATURAL COLORS, ESPECIALLY ON THE SURFACES, TO YOUR POINT. ALL THE ELEMENTS ARE GOING TO BE BRIGHT COLOR. MAYBE THAT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. >> IT SHOWCASES THE BRIGHT COLORS OF THE PLAY FEATURES. >> KEEP THIS IN MIND , THERE ARE INTENSITY LEVELS. IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU COULDN'T GET A MUCH LESS INTENSE GREEN. >> I LIKE THE COLOR. >> IT LOOKED BETTER FROM THE ASSIGNMENT. >> THIS IS THE TURF, NOT THE POURED IN PLACE. >> I'M HAVING TROUBLE FOCUSING. >> IT LOOKS -- >> THAT LOOKS LIKE MY SIDE YARD RIGHT NOW. >> IS A THE ROBOT STRUCTURE >> YES. >> AND IT HAS A RED TOP? >> I THINK ABOUT PARENTS, TO GO TO SOME OF THESE KID PLACES AND YOU HAVE ALL THESE COLORS AND IT IS SO OVERWHELMING. THE KIDS LOVE IT. THE PARENTS ARE HANGING OUT. SOMETIMES I THINK TOO MUCH COLOR MAKES IT, I'M THINKING FOR MYSELF, I THINK SOMETIMES WHEN YOU HAVE, KIDS ARE GOING TO HAVE FUN NO MATTER WHAT. IF IT IS A NICE AMBIENCE FOR PARENTS, AND YOU WILL HAVE MORE PEOPLE HANGING OUT. >> AND, IT IS VERY COLORFUL. IT IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE WET ZONE. >> TO THAT POINT, WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS, THAT WE WANTED, BECAUSE THE QUESTION CAME UP, DO YOU WANT IT TO MATCH WET ZONE FOR WAS THAT TOO BUSY? I THINK THE CONSENSUS ONCE WE REALLY DON'T, WE WANT TO BE ITS OWN PLACE. THAT IS PROBABLY SOMETHING TO CONSIDER ALSO. >> I LIKE GREEN. >> I THINK WE ALL LIKE GREEN FOR THE TURF. >> I MEAN GREEN POURED IN PLACE . >> CAN IT BE DESIGNED WHERE IT IS LIKE A WALKWAY THAT IS A DIFFERENT COLOR? >> WITH A FEATURE IN A STADIUM, [02:55:01] IT WAS A DIAMOND. >> LET'S DO THIS, WHAT IS TWO MORE WEEKS? LET'S TRY TO GET YOU SOME DESIGN OPTIONS. IF YOU WANT TO GET A SPECIAL MEETING, WE CAN GET THEM RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU. IS THAT FAIR? >> SOUNDS GOOD. >> WITH THE TURF, YOU ARE PRESENTED, YOU HAVE QUALITY QUESTIONS. YOU ALSO HAVE PLAYED A QUESTION. IF YOU LIKE THAT REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE WITH THE HIGHER QUALITY WITH THAT PILE HEIGHT, GREAT. IF YOU LIKE ANY OF THE PILE HEIGHT WITH DETECTOR, THEY COME IN THE HIGHER GRADE TURF OPTIONS. WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU WANT. >> IS THE HEIGHT FUNCTIONALLY HIGHER BETTER? >> I THINK WE SAID THAT IT WEARS BETTER. THERE IS MORE TO IT. >> SO, THAT OPTION, THE HIGH QUALITY. THIS OPTION, THIS COLOR, THIS SITE? >> GREEN THROUGHOUT. WE WILL KEEP THIS GREEN. >> WE WILL COME WITH DIFFERENT OPTIONS IN THE POUR-N-PLAY. >> I WOULD BE FINE WITH GREEN AND DIFFERENT COLORS. >> WE WILL BRING YOU BACK SOME OPTIONS. >> I REALIZE THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD MEETING IS TOMORROW, COULD WE SOLICIT INPUT FROM THEM ON INDIVIDUAL BASIS OR , I ASSUME NONE OF THIS HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THEM? >> IT HAS NOT. REMEMBER, THE ORIGINAL OPTIONS WORK, THEY WERE PRESENTED BUT THIS IS NOT BEEN. >> COULD THIS BE PUT IN THE DIRECTORS REPORT? >> THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THAT. >> IF YOU WANT AN OFFICIAL RECOMMENDATION, THEN, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE OFFICIAL MEETING PROCESS. >> YOU COULD JUST ADVISE. >> I THINK WE CAN GET SOME INPUT. >> I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THEIR INPUT. >> PARTICULARLY AS IT PERTAINS TO THE COLOR SCHEME. THEY PROBABLY KNOW THIS PARK BETTER THAN ANY OF US PUT TOGETHER. THEY COULD ADD THAT. >> VERY GOOD. >> SO, LET'S, WE TALKED ABOUT CLAIMING ALREADY. THIS IS THE OPTION YOU LOOK AT BEFORE. THESE ARE THE MAIN FEATURES. THIS IS THE ACCESSIBLE FEATURE OFF TO THE RIGHT, THE CLIMBING AREA OFF TO THE LEFT. THERE IS THE TOT STRUCTURES. YOU CAN SEE THE POUR-IN-PLACE FEATURES HERE, DIFFERENT COLORS. THIS WAS POUR-IN-PLACE AND TURF. THE GREEN IS TURF AS WELL AS AROUND THE SANDPIT. THE PRICE IS 2,047,000. >> THAT POUR-IN-PLACE STRIP, THAT IS AN INTERESTING DESIGN CHOICE. IF WE COULD FIND A WAY TO INCORPORATE THAT, PRESENT ONE OPTION THAT HAS SOME SORT OF, YES, I THINK IT WOULD BE NEAT. >> OPTION A IS THE ONE YOU SELECTED FIRST, OPTION B IS WHAT WE HAVE PRESENTED TODAY. THERE CAN BE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT QUALITY AND COLOR OF THE POUR-IN-PLACE. >> OPTION B, FOR SURE. >> WE WILL FOLLOW-UP WITH SOME POUR-IN-PLACE DESIGN OPTIONS . ON THE TURF AREA, GOING WITH THE HIGHER QUALITY THROUGHOUT. >> I HAVE A QUESTION, I KNOW THIS IS IMPORTANT TO COUNCILMEMBER BOWERS, WILL THEY BE ABLE TO RESERVES THE SPIGOTS? >> THAT IS, WE CAN MOVE THE SURFACE WITHOUT DAMAGING THE EXISTING FOUNDATIONS OF THE STRUCTURE. >> ARE WE DOING ANYTHING WITH REGARD TO THE ENTRANCE AREA TO THE PLAYGROUND? THAT IS ALWAYS, YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE BOTTOM OF THIS IMAGE, IT IS ALWAYS COMPLETELY WORN, IT IS DIRT AND OR MUD, THE SIDEWALK IS TYPICAL MAYBE 3 TO 4 FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK THAT DOESN'T AFFORD MUCH IN THE WAY OF FOOT TRAFFIC, WHICH IS WHY THE GROUND LOOKS THE WAY IT DOES. >> THIS COST IS JUST WITHIN THE FENCE. >> WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH PARKS MAINTENANCE. IS IT THE APPROPRIATE TURF, GRASS, OR SOME OTHER SURFACE. >> THIS ALSO FLAUNTS QUITE A BIT. >> THINKING ABOUT DROUGHT TOLERANT SHRUBS OR LANDSCAPING LIKE THAT. >> THERE WILL ALWAYS BE TRAFFIC. [03:00:04] WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS TRAFFIC FRIENDLY BUT ALSO DURABLE. >> JUST AS YOU ARE LOOKING AT SURFACES, CONCRETE WOULD BE AN OPTION BUT WE RECENTLY WROTE SPECIFICATIONS FOR USING THE DECOMPOSED GRANITE WITH THE PLUMBER, VERY STABLE SURFACE, NATURAL SKIN SURFACE MIGHT BE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO CONSIDER. IT WOULD FIT THE SITE. IT IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME AS CONCRETE. THAT MIGHT BE AN ALTERNATIVE TO LOOK AT. >> CHRISTOPH, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED WE ARE MOVING THE PICNIC TABLE, WAS THERE ANY SEATING THAT WAS ADDED UNDER THIS PROPOSAL? >> NO, THE SEATING UNDERNEATH THE COVER IS PRESERVED. THEN, THERE IS JUST THE ONE PICNIC TABLE THAT IS MOVED. >> I SEE A BENCH ON THE LOWER LEFT CORNER. I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER BENCHES AROUND. >> THOSE ARE NOT IN THE DEMOLITION PLAN. I BELIEVE THOSE ARE STAYING. >> I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, IS IT YOUR PREFERENCE THAT WE MAINTAIN THAT SEATING? WE CAN, IN SOME DEGREE. >> THAT IS MY PREFERENCE. I THINK THE QUESTION I MIGHT HAVE, IS THAT ENOUGH SEATING? >> YOU WILL HAVE PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS EITHER WALKING WITH KIDS OR SITTING AND WATCHING. >> WHY DON'T WE DO THIS, WE WILL TALK TO THE VENDOR AND GET OPTIONS OURSELVES FOR ADDITIONAL SEATING SO WE COME BACK WITH THE TURF OPTIONS, WE CAN PRESENT THOSE AS WELL. >> I'M NOT ASKING FOR SEATING LIKE AROUND THE PERIMETER BUT SOME WELL-PLACED BENCHES THAT ARE IN THE RIGHT SPOT MAKES SENSE. SO, DURING THE INITIAL REFURBISHMENT , WE ARE REFURBISHING THE PLAY STRUCTURE, CLOSE FOR A FEW DAYS, MAKE SURE WE COMMUNICATE THAT REALLY, REALLY WELL. AND, WE OPEN BACK UP AND WE ARE OPEN BASICALLY THROUGH THE MONTH OF JUNE. THEN WE CLOSE SOMETIME AROUND JULY DURING THE HOTTEST MONTHS, IS THAT YOUR IDEA? >> I DON'T THINK WE HAVE OPTED OUT. THE GOAL FOR US HAD ALWAYS BEEN TO INTO THE SUMMER ALLOWING KIDS TO ACCESS THE FACILITY DURING THE SUMMER. >> JULY IS THE EARLIEST. THE PREFERENCE FOR THE VENDOR WOULD BE LATER. >> SCHOOL GOES BACK TO SECOND WEEK OF AUGUST, FIRST WEEK OF AUGUST. I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT JULY. I KNOW IT IS HOT AND PROBABLY OUR MOST CONSISTENTLY DRY MONTH. >> HOW MANY OF THE FEATURES ARE CLOSED FOR SAFETY REASONS? I SEE THE SAFETY FENCE AROUND ONE. >> THE FEATURES THAT ARE THERE RIGHT NOW, ARE THEY OPEN? ARE THERE SOME THAT ARE SO UNSAFE WE CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE THERE? >> THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE SO UNSAFE WE CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE THERE. >> IF WE DO, I THINK THAT CHANGES THE CALCULUS JUST A LITTLE BIT. YOU GO TO A PARK AND TWO THIRDS OF THE AMENITIES ARE NOT AVAILABLE, I DON'T KNOW, IS THAT , JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. I'M NOT TAKING A POSITION. >> WE WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION AS WE TALKED TO THE VENDOR. >> THE EARLIEST IT CAN BE IS IN JULY. HIS PREFERENCE IS TO BE IN THE FALL. HE'S GOING TO FOLLOW THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL. >> IS THERE A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE WE SAY IS A BIG CLOSING WHERE HALF THE PARK IS OPEN AND THE OTHER HALF, I GUESS THEY COULDN'T BECAUSE OF THE ENTRANCE BUT COULD WE LEAVE THE POUR-IN-PLACE OPEN WHILE THEY DO THE BACK END OF THE PLAYGROUND? >> NO. >> THAT IS OKAY, THAT IS OKAY. >> I FEEL LIKE KIDS REALLY START COMING BACK IS LIKE MID-SEPTEMBER. WHEN IT COOLS OFF JUST A LITTLE BIT. I HAVE BEEN OUT TO THEIR MANY, MANY, MANY TIMES. IT IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE PLACES. IF I AM IN A BAD MOOD, I WOULD GO OUT AND SEE THESE LITTLE KIDS BE HAPPY. IN AUGUST, NOBODY IS THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE AFTERNOON. IT IS JUST TOO HOT. >> THEN YOU WOULD BE READY FOR SEPTEMBER, LATE SEPTEMBER, GOING INTO THE FALL. >> IN JULY, WE WILL HAVE THE WET ZONE. >> STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ALL THAT YOU NEED? >> I THINK SO, YES. >> CITY COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> EXCELLENT. THAT * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.