May 01, 2025 Special City Council Work Session

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>>> GOOD EVENING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS A QUORUM PRESENT IN THE WORKROOM. AUTHORIZED SECTION 551.071 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE THIS MEETING MAY BE CONVENED INTO CLOSE EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF SEEKING CONFIDENTIAL LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY ON ANY AGENDA ITEM HEREIN. PROCESS FORMS AND REGISTRATIONS ARE AVAILABLE OUTSIDE THE DOOR IN THE HALL TO THE CITY CONFERENCE ROOM. WITH THAT WE WILL HOLD EXECUTIVE SESSION UNTIL LAST MOVING TO ITEM 3 CITIZEN INPUT AT THIS TIME COMMENTS WILL BE

[4B. Receive an update from DART Board Representative, Mark Enoch, and discuss pending legislation related to the Dallas Area Rapid Transit System (HB3187 and SB1557).]

>> HOW ARE YOU? I WOULD LIKE TO DO TWO THINGS TONIGHT. FIRST OF ALL GIVE A REPORT ON VARIOUS THINGS, LEGISLATION AND I WANT TO START BY GIVING THANKS. I THINK YOU KNEW THAT NIGHT YOU DID THE RESOLUTION GOING TO THE BACK OF THE ROOM I DID NOT TAKE THAT LIGHTLY. IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME AS YOUR REPRESENTATIVE AND IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO DART. BECAUSE OF THAT, THE MAYOR PRO TEM WHEN I ASKED HIM TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL DID AN EXCELLENT JOB REPRESENTING THE COUNCIL, EXPLAINING THE RESOLUTION, EXPLAINING THE VALUE OF DART AND WHAT MAKES WONDERFUL. THANK YOU TO YOU BECAUSE YOU ALLOWED ME TO BE ABLE TO ASK THE MAYOR PRO TEM AND HE CAME DOWN AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 27 HOURS PROBABLY I'M GUESSING BECAUSE I DON'T THINK

UNTIL 1:00 IN THE MORNING. >> I WANT TO MENTION THAT A BIG PART OF THE REASON I WENT TO SPEAK IS THE CITY WAS BEING MISREPRESENTED IN SOME LITERATURE CIRCULATED.

MISREPRESENTED THAT THE CITY WAS IN SUPPORT OF THIS LEGISLATION AND WE ARE NOT. THE SECOND RESOLUTION WE PASSED INDICATED WE WERE NOT AND WE WANTED TO SUPPORT THE FUNDING AND ENCOURAGE OTHER CITIES TO DO THE SAME SO I THOUGHT IT WAS DISTASTEFUL IS THE RIGHT WORD THAT SOME OF THE LITERATURE GOING AROUND BEING PASSED AROUND FROM DIFFERENT LEGISLATORS WAS SING A CERTAIN NUMBER OF CITIES WERE IN SUPPORT BASED ON THE COUNT WE DID SO THAT WAS A HUGE PART OF IT.

>> THE MAYOR PRO TEM MENTIONED THERE WAS A TWO-PAGE FIRE GIVEN OUT ON MONDAY. I WAS THERE ON TUESDAY AND I SAW THE FIRE AND HE TALKED ABOUT PASSING THE RESOLUTION THE FIRST ONE AND DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE SECOND. THE SEVEN CITY SUPPORTING A BILL THAT WOULD HAVE TO INCLUDE ROWLETT. SO THE MAYOR PRO TEM WAS KIND ENOUGH TO SEND THE LETTER TO THE COMMITTEES AND CHAIRS AND OBVIOUSLY THAT WAS NO SMALL PART OF HIS DISCUSSION MEETING WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE LAST THURSDAY NIGHT. SO ANYWAY I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE CITY I AM PROUD TO CALL HOME AND CITY COUNCILMEMBERS AND MAYOR PRO TEM. NOW LET'S GET TO REPORTS, FIRST ON THE LEGISLATION. THERE ARE TWO BILLS TWO BILLS IN EACH THE HOUSE AND SENATE ONE IS THE GOVERNANCE BILL TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE PAST. DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT, DON'T THINK ANYTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT. AS WE ARE FOR 50 TO THE ENABLING LEGISLATION , A PORTION ARE MEMBERS OF THE POPULATION, EACH PERSON HAS 160,000 THAT HE OR SHE REPRESENTS SO SINCE ROWLETT DOES NOT HAVE 160,000 PEOPLE I AM THE ONLY BOARD MEMBER IN MY 27 YEARS OF THE BOARD THAT HAS HAD MORE THAN THREE, EXCUSE ME LET ME TAKE THAT BACK. I USED TO REPRESENT FARMERS BRANCH BUT BECAUSE OF THE RELATIONSHIPS I HAD THE PLEASURE OF REPRESENTING , SO THAT HAS NOT HAD A HEARING. I DON'T THINK THAT WILL GO WITH IT AND THAT WOULD PORTION THE BOARD DIFFERENTLY AND ADD UP TO 22 MEMBERS TO THE BOARD. I THINK ON LATE NIGHT WITH 15 NUMBERS I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT 22 WOULD DO. BUT ANYWAY, THE MORE IMPORTANT NOTE, DID GET A HEARING AND REFERRED TO THE MAYOR PRO TEM TESTIMONY THERE LAST THURSDAY AT THE TRANSPORTATION HEARING ON THE DEFUNDING OF THE DART BILL AND

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IT'S NOT REALLY 25% IT IS 34% BECAUSE THE FIRST HALF IS THE DEBT SERVICE AND OPERATING EXPENSE AFTER THAT IS 680 MILLION AND 235 TAKE AWAY THAT'S 34% OF REVENUES. SO IT WOULD BE A TERRIBLE , ONE OF THE LEGISLATORS ASKED ME WHAT IT WOULD DO AND I EXPLAINED EVERYTHING FROM 75 BASIS POINTS ON BONDS TO ONCE PER HOUR BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT REPAIRED, WE HAVE SOME OF THE TRAIN CARTS NOW THAT ARE OLD ENOUGH THAT WE HAVE TO HAND MAKE PARTS FOR THE TRAIN WITH SIMILAR 30 PLUS YEARS OLD. SO, WE HAVE NEW TRAINS ORDERED. WE HAVE A STATE OF GOOD REPAIR WITH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS TO MAKE SURE THINGS STAY NEW AND OPERATING WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE SECOND POINT. ON THAT LEGISLATION THERE HAS BEEN NO VOTE IN THE COMMITTEE YET AND NO MOVEMENT ON THE SENATE SIDE. 'S WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT IT DIES FOR LACK OF INTEREST BUT WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE KNOW. WE ARE WAITING WITH BAITED BREATH FOR INFORMATION. I DID GET TESTIMONY LAST THURSDAY NIGHT AND EXPLAIN TO THEM WHAT I THOUGHT WAS WRONG WITH LEGISLATION AND I WAS ONE OF THEM, 33. SPEAKING IN FAVOR FOUR AND 29 AGAINST IT. THE 430 COMMON CARDS THAT WERE SUBMITTED , I THINK THERE WERE EIGHT IN SUPPORT OF THE RESOLUTION. FOR THE BILL SO WE TRIED TO MAKE A POINT THIS WAS NOT A TRANSPORTATION ISSUE. IT WAS A BUDGETING ISSUE FOR THE CITY PLAN, PLANO LEFT HUNDRED $69 MILLION IN BOND. IF YOU CALCULATE 4% FIRST ON THAT IT'S A RELATIVELY SAFE BET OVER THE LONG-TERM CITY BONDS THAT'S $20 MILLION. WHAT IS IT I TRY TO GET BACK, $28 MILLION A YEAR. SO I THINK IT IS A BUDGETING ISSUE NOT A TRANSPORTATION ISSUE.

PEOPLE THAT COME TO AUSTIN AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WRITING LETTERS TO THE LEGISLATORS SAYING WE DON'T LIKE DART IT'S DIRTY AND IT DOES NOT GO WHERE WE WANT TO GO. SO LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE STATE OF GOOD REPAIR AND WHAT WE ARE DOING THAT WE CAN DO BETTER.

ONE OF THE PET PEEVES OF MY CITY AND ME AND MY WANT HAS BEEN THE ROWLETT GUARDRAILS THAT CROSS THE ROAD BECAUSE THEY SEEM TO GO DOWN WITH GREAT CLARITY. AND I HAD THE DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS CHIEF COO AND THE PERSON UNDERNEATH THEM SO I COULD CALL THE MOMENT I HEARD OR THE MOMENT I WAS IN TRAFFIC AND SAW THOSE.

ONE OF THE PROBLEMS AS WE HAVE TWO SETS OF TRACKS, ONE WE HAVE CONTROL AND ONE OF HER WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE CONTROL. THE DG AND O TRACKS ARE USED INFREQUENTLY AND I WILL BE JUDICIOUS ABOUT WHAT I SAY I'M NOT SURE THEY HAVE AS HIGH PRIORITY TO MAINTAIN THE SIGNALING SYSTEM AS DART DOES SO IT'S FRUSTRATING TO ME AS A DART REP THAT THE FAILURE MODE IS DOWN. IF THEY FAIL UP AND SOMEBODY GOT HURT, THEY ALWAYS FAIL DOWN SO IT'S FRUSTRATING BUT IT IS A SAFETY THING. SO IF OUR SIGNALING SYSTEM IMPROPERLY , THERE'S A SHORT, IF IT GETS WET IF IT GETS TOO HOT IN THE SUN THOSE THINGS COME DOWN AND OF COURSE HAVE A COUPLE THINGS THAT ARE IN CONTROL. AT THE TRAIN COMES INTO THE STATION AND A TRAIN IMMEDIATELY LEAVES THE STATION IN THE ARMS WILL STAY DOWN LONGER AND THEY WON'T COME UP FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. SO THE LATTER PART WE WORKED HARD ON.

THE GOOD NEWS, THE SIGNAL SYSTEM WHICH IS A THREE-YEAR PROGRAM, ROWLETT HAS BEEN STARTING BECAUSE WE PRESSED AND WE PUSHED SO I THINK MY LAST EMAIL TO THE MAYOR PRO TEM IS BY THE END OF

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QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT LIKE. >> COUNCIL QUESTIONS.

>> DO YOU NEED US TO SEND EMAILS AS WELL? WRONG WITH THAT. THE ANSWER IS - YES. IF WE HAVE PEOPLE WRITING TO MEMBERS OF HOUSE COMMITTEE AND GO TO THE ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE AND SAY WE DO NOT FAVOR DEFUNDING DART BECAUSE DART IS APPOINTED TO THE CITY AND TO THE PEOPLE WE REPRESENT AND IT IS GOOD INVESTMENT VALUE I HAVE TOLD THE STORY AND YOU HEARD ME SAY THIS THE OTHER NIGHT. WHETHER IT'S DOWNTOWN GARLAND OR DOWNTOWN ROWLETT. I THINK I TALKED WITH YOU ALL INDIVIDUALLY. ROWLETT HAS BEEN TRANSFORMED , THAT CREATES PEOPLE WHO HAVE MONEY GOING TO BUY A BREWERY OR NEXT CAN FOOD AND THAT HELPS THE ECONOMY. 190 HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE SUCCESS AND DART HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT SUCCESS. SO I THINK ROWLETT HAS DONE VERY WELL THUS FAR IT IF YOU WANT TO SHARE

THAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT. >> SALUTES THE TRANSPORTATION

COMMITTEE IN THE SENATE? >> IT IS, THE FORMER SPEAKER IS THE CHAIR OF THE TRANSFORMATION COMMITTEE AND THE VICE CHAIR IS

>> 14 OR 15. >> SHOULD BE 13 ON THE COMMITTEE

RIGHT? >> MY GUESS IS 13. SO ANYWAY.

ANYTHING YOU ALL CAN DO HAVE YOUR CONSTITUENTS DO WOULD HELP.

YOU ALL HAVE MY CELL NUMBER. >> WE HAVE SOME RESIDENTS IN THE CITY AND WHERE MEMBERS OF THE DALLAS AREA TRANSIT ALLIANCE.

HAVE BEEN PRETTY BIG SUPPORTES OF DART. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF THE ORGANIZATION THAT TESTIFIED ALSO. SO A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ADVOCATING ON BEHALF OF DART.

>> ANOTHER AND FINAL SHOT, I WILL THANK YOU AGAIN NOT ONLY DID YOU COME DOWN, WE ALL SPENT THE WHOLE DAY GOING OVER TESTIMONY AND MAKING SURE WE WERE ON THE SAME PAGE. WE APPRECIATE , THE FIGRE WITH WHICH YOU PRESENTED, JUST LIKE WHEN YOU SAID WE SET A MOMENT AGO I THINK IT WAS RECEIVED VERY

WELL. >> COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT, APPRECIATE THE UPDATE. ESPECIALLY THE CROSSING ARMS. WE ARE ALL THANKFUL FOR THAT ONE.

ESPECIALLY THE CROSSING ARMS WE ARE ALL THANKFUL FOR THAT ONE.

[4A. Presentation regarding a new option to revise contract with Republic Services in relation to bulky waste service collection]

>> WE WILL MOVE ON ITEM 4 A PRESENTATION REGARDING NEW OPTION REGARDING CONTRACT PUBLIC SERVICES RELATION TO THE BULK AND WASTE TO SERVICE COLLECTION. WE HAVE CITY MANAGER DAVID HALL AND PUBLIC REPRESENTATIVE

>> WANT ME TO MAKE -- WAIT FOR COUNCILMEMBER BRITTON?

>> YES LET'S GIVE HIM A MOMENT. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE THE ITEM.

>> SO, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL. WE MET WITH THE PROPOSAL A MEETING TWO OR GO WE GAVE YOU BOTH OPTIONS.

WE REALLY PROVIDED THE FIRST OPTION

>> THERE WERE VARIATIONS. ONE WAS A SIX YARD OPTION THE OTHER

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OPTION FOUR AND THAT OFTEN TOOK INTO ACCOUNT A LOT OF THINGS YOU SAID AND CONVERSATIONS WE HAD. INCREASE IN THE SERVICE TO WEEKLY SERVICE. GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE RATE IMPACT OF THAT AND GET YOUR DIRECTION AND NEXT STEPS. OPTION FOUR WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE PUTTING BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A WEEKLY OPTION TWO YARD SERVICE OPTION. IN ESSENCE THE BRUSH BULK WOULD BE COLLECTED ON THE SAME DAY AS WASTE AND RECYCLING. THAT WOULD BE WEEKLY. SO EVERY WEEK THAT YOU HAVE REGULAR WASTE AND RECYCLING, THEY WOULD ALL BE ON THE SAME DAY. IN ADDITION YOU WOULD NOW PLACE OUT YOUR BRUSH BULK. BY SO-CALLED A.M. WHICH IS CURRENTLY THE CASE, THE SERVICE WOULD BE SCHEDULED TO BEGIN JUNE 30. THE CHANGE, IF YOU WILL, IS RIGHT NOW ONCE A MONTH WE PUT OUT EIGHT YARDS MAXIMUM. THAT WOULD TAKE THIS DOWN TO WEEKLY TWO CUBIC YARD MAXIMUM. YOU CAN SEE THE APPROXIMATE SIZE OF THE BUNDLE OR APPROXIMATING 22 WASHING MACHINES. COMPLIANT LOADS WILL BE COLLECTED THAT DAY, NONCOMPLIANT LOADS WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT PRIOR , LOADS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SET OUT IN TIME.

THEY MAY WAIT UP TO SIX DAYS. LET'S PRESUME THEY GIVE A NOTICE, WE DON'T GIVE CITATIONS IMMEDIATELY. IMPORTANT TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN A CITATION AND NOTICE. WE WOULD GIVE A NOTICE AND WE WOULD ASK YOU TO IMMEDIATELY REMOVE IT, PEOPLE MAY OR MAY NOT. HERE IS WHERE THIS IS A GREAT IMPROVEMENT OVER WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING. IF YOU HAVE A NONCOMPLIANT LOAD TODAY SERVICE MODEL IT COULD WAIT AS LONG AS 30 DAYS. THAT'S PART OF WHAT'S EXACERBATING THE PROBLEM WITH THIS FEELING OF JUNK ACROSS THE CITY. IN SOME WAYS THIS HELPS SOLVE THAT. YOU SHOULD IN THEORY WAIT NO LONGER THAN SIX DAYS. IF YOU PUT OUT OVERSIZED THAT'S NOT THE SAME AS A NONCOMPLIANT LOAD. OVERSIZED LOAD IS EXCESS OF THE TWO CUBIC YARDS OR THE SIZE AND CAPACITY.

THOSE WOULD NEED TO BE CALLED IN MUCH LIKE THEY ARE NOW. SO WHAT CHANGED IS WHAT QUALIFIED AS OVERSIZED LOAD BUT THE PROCESS TO RESOLVE IS STILL THE SAME. YOU CALL IN, WORK WITH REPUBLIC TO ASSESS WHATEVER THE CHARGE WOULD BE AND YOU WOULD PAY FOR THAT AS A RESIDENT INDIVIDUALLY FOR THE COLLECTION OF THAT LOAD.

AGAIN THAT MAY BE LEFT A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN SIX DAYS. IN TALKING WITH RICK ABOUT THIS. HE HAS DEVISED A METHOD UPON HEARING SOME OF YOUR INPUTS TO CREATE AN EMAIL SYSTEM WHERE A CUSTOMER COULD TAKE A PHOTO, VIA EMAIL AND RECEIVE A QUOTE BACK.

THEY MAY WORK WITH PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A PHOTOGRAPH. FAIR ASSESSMENT? THE ADVANTAGE OF THAT IS NOW YOU CALL AND SOMEONE HAS TO COME OUT, GET THE QUOTE, THIS WOULD POTENTIALLY EXPEDITE THAT SIGNIFICANTLY AND REDUCE THE WAIT TIME. ANY QUESTION ON WHAT THE OPTION LOOKS LIKE?

>> SOME OF IT IS EXCESS LOAD TWO CUBIC METERS YOU PICK IT UP AND

LEAVE THE REST? >> WE LOVE TWO CUBIC YARDS. WE WILL TAG IT SAYING NONCOMPLIANCE BECAUSE OF SIZE WITH A NUMBER TO CALL OR EMAIL? AND THEN THEY HAVE THE OPTION.

>> DO YOU HAVE ANY ESTIMATE OF THE BULK LOADS PUT OUT?

>> SO TODAY , IT WAS PRETTY PACKED AND ON THE WAY I CUT THROUGH 15 STREETS AND THEN WEEK THREE RIGHT NOW I LOOKED AT IT ALL EVERY STREET LAST WEEK. THERE WAS 15 PILES OUT THERE WERE UNDER TWO YARDS AND ONE THAT WAS OVER. REMEMBER THAT WAS WEEK THREE, THEY'RE NOT PICKED UP UNTIL WEEK THREE SO THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE EQUIPMENT. SO, THEY'RE DOING THAT THAN IS SITTING SO LONG THE PERCEPTION IS IT'S NOT GETTING

PICKED UP. >> SO THE WEEK WE HAVE THE SAME EIGHT YARDS BUT THEY HAD PER MONTH? SO YOU'RE NOT PRODUCING?

>> A COUPLE WEEKS. YEAH. >> ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE

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EDUCATION PROCESS. >> THAT IS CERTAINLY A BIG PART

OF THIS. >> IF I CAN ASK A QUESTION. I THINK THIS IS GREAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND MR. HALL FOR REALLY GRINDING ON THIS BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A DIFFICULT ISSUE FOR THE CITY SO THINK OF EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING. THIS WAS A CONCERN, NOW IT'S A CONCERN AND PREVIOUSLY AS PART OF THE COMMUNICATION. IN PARTICULAR WITH OVERSIZED LOADS. PEOPLE GET USED TO THEM EVERY WEEK TWO CUBIC YARDS. NOTES GOING TO HAPPEN, THERE WITH HER ON A BIG PILE OF STUFF PRETEND LIKE THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING IS GOING ON. TWO MONTHS LATER, WHAT I WANT TO BE SURE IS WE HAVE A FAIRLY ROBUST WAY OF IDENTIFYING. YOU SAID PUTTING TAX ON THE PILES IMMEDIATELY AFTER, I'M GOOD WITH THAT, A DOORHANGER OR SOMETHING. WILL THAT BE DONE BY THE DRIVER? WE HAVE A SUPPORT PERSON FOLLOWING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?

>> SO THE DRIVER , HE WILL GET OUT OF THE TRUCK AND TAG IT.

THEY WILL TAKE A PICTURE. WILL HAVE THE ADDRESS AND THAT WILL GET TO THE DISPATCH. THE PICTURE GOES TO DISPATCH AND DISPATCH WILL DEVELOP AND IT WILL GO TO CODE COMPLIANCE.

>> OKAY THAT SEEMS TO BE THE MISSING PIECE. EVERYBODY SAW IT AND NOBODY KNOCKED ON YOUR NEIGHBOR'S DOOR AND ANYWAY THAT SEEMS LIKE PART OF THE STANDARD . ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE PRICE? SO THE PROPOSED RATE IS $1.37 INCREASE TO THE CITY. I AM DISTINGUISHING CITY RAID VERSUS WHAT A CUSTOMER THINGS. CITY RATE IS WHAT REPUBLIC CHARGES US, CURRENTLY $18.30 A MONTH. PROPOSED RATE INCREASE WOULD GO TO $19 PROPOSED RATE INCREASE WOULD GO TO $19.60 THAT REPUBLIC CHARGES.

WE CHARGE THE RESIDENT $20.36. ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1 PART OF THE CONTRACT THERE IS A CPI ADJUSTMENT PROVISION APPROXIMATELY 4.98% ADJUSTMENT TO THE RATE. THAT SORT OF IS A $.98 INCREASE THAT REPUBLIC WOULD CHARGE US. OUR RATE WOULD THEN GO EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1 FROM $19.60 TO $20.58.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE BEING CHARGED. NOW I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, THE IMPACTS OF THIS. SO THIS IS A BUSY CHART AND HAVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT COMING UP.

IN SHORT I WANTED TO THROUGH THE REFUSE FUND AND PROJECTIONS.

INTERIOR OF THE YELLOW COLUMN, MIDYEAR WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. I AM PROPOSING THE CITY WILL EFFECTIVELY SUBSIDIZE THE RATE INCREASE AND EAT IT. FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

YOU CAN SEE THE IMPACT ON THE REFUSE FUND TAKES US DOWN TO 6% RESERVE BALANCE. FROM THE BOTTOM, THE REAL DECISION POINTS WILL COME WITH RESPECT TO THE FISCAL YEAR 26 BUDGET. THAT IS NOT A DECISION FOR TONIGHT BUT I WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE AS YOU MAKE A DECISION LOOKING FORWARD BECAUSE IF YOU CHOOSE TO GO DOWN THIS PATH THERE IS A COST THAT WE CAN EAT FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS FISCAL YEAR BUT THERE WILL BE SOME COST IMPACTS, OBVIOUSLY GOING INTO FISCAL YEAR 26. WHEN WE HAVE GIVEN YOU HERE ARE TWO FUND BALANCE SCENARIOS OF 8% AND 6%. IT DOES NOT MEAN WE COULDN'T SETTLE ON 7%. JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME DEGREE OF CHANGE. YOU CAN SEE FISCAL YEAR OPTION 1A THERE IS NO RESIDENTIAL INCREASE WITH 40% COMMERCIAL INCREASE KEEPING US AT 8% FUND BALANCE RESERVE. AGAIN YOU CAN LOOK ACROSS THE COLUMNS AND I WON'T READ EVERY SINGLE THING BUT ONE PERMUTATION HAS 9% RESIDENTIAL INCREASE WHICH WILL CHANGE THE RESIDENT BILL FROM $20.36, TO $20.19. I WILL LET YOU LOOK AT THIS BUT THE POINT IS TO SAY THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME FUND BALANCE IMPACTS LATER ON THAT WE WILL DISCUSS OBVIOUSLY SIGNIFICANTLY IN GREATER DETAIL TO THE BUDGET PROCESS BUT YOU WANT TO BE AWARE AS YOU MAKE THE DECISION. THIS WILL BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR YOU TO SEE. THE SAME HEADER FROM THE PREVIOUS LIGHT AND YOU CAN SEE AT THE BOTTOM THE FUND BALANCE RESERVE PERCENTAGES THERE. AGAIN THESE ARE OPTIONS ON HOW YOU DECIDE TO APPORTION THE PRICE INCREASE DOUBLE COME EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1. AGAIN THIS IS A DISCUSSION POINT FOR THE FUTURE BUT I WANT YOU TO BE VERY

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LOOK. >> CAN YOU REMIND ME WHAT WAS THE COMMERCIAL INCREASE WE DID FOR 25?

>> I CANNOT REMIND YOU BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW. SPLIT LOOKING AT

OPTION A. >> WE CAN ARRANGE THIS AS WE WORK THROUGH FISCAL 26 BUDGET , HOWEVER YOU DECIDE. WHAT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE TRY TO GET TO THE POLICY REQUIRING 5% FUND BALANCE RESERVE. RIGHT NOW ABSORBING THIS PRICE INCREASE TAKING US TO 6% STILL ABOVE THE THRESHOLD. AGAIN THESE ARE EXAMPLES SHOWING EIGHT AND 6%, WE CAN GIVE YOU SEVEN OR FIVE AS WE HAVE THE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS. AND I WILL POINT THIS OUT, IMPORTANT TO NOTE YOU WILL SEE IN THE RESPECTIVE HEADER WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING WITH EACH ASSOCIATED RESIDENT TO INCREASE YOU WILL SEE THE BILL TO THE RESIDENT AND PRICE CHANGE FROM 2026 TO 2019, AND AGAIN SO FORTH AND SO ON. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS OR ANYTHING BEFORE I MOVE ON TO CONCLUDE THIS?

>> SO IN SHORT A QUICK SUMMARY FOR YOU AGAIN. WE ARE ASKING FOR YOUR CONSENSUS. WE WILL BRING BACK THE OFFICIAL AMENDMENT ON 6 MAY BUT WE ARE PROPOSING THIS NEW OPTION TO YOU WHICH IS A WEEKLY COLLECTION CYCLE FOR THE RUSH BULK WITH A MAXIMUM OF TWO CUBIC YARDS. THREE, THREE, SIX FEET CLAIMING THAT THE TWO WASHING MACHINE TO THE EXCESS FOLLOWS CURRENT POLICY TO CALL IN. AGAIN WORKING AT THE IMPROVEMENT IN THE SERVICE DELIVERY OF THAT CURRENTLY. AGAIN TALKING ABOUT THE ASSUMPTIONS WE MADE I WOULD ASK THAT THROUGH CONSENSUS CONFIRM YOUR OKAY WITH SUBSIDIZING THE REMAINDER OF THIS FISCAL YEAR RATE INCREASE BECAUSE THE FIRST BILL WILL TAKE EFFECT JULY 1.

THAT LEAVES SEVERAL FISCAL MONTHS REMAINING AND AGAIN THE CURRENT RESIDENT CHARGED NOT CHANGE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE FISCAL YEAR. FISCAL YEAR 26 NUMBERS WE DECIDE DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS AND PLEASE KEEP IN MIND IN FISCAL YEAR 26 EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1 THERE IS A CPI CONTRACT ADJUSTMENT OF 4.98% TAKING US TO THE NEXT STEPS WHICH AGAIN DOING A SECOND MEETING WE WERE ABLE TO GET IT ON THE SIXTH. SO WE GOT THIS AMENDMENT FOR YOU TO CONSIDER FOR THE AGENDA MAY 6. THE CHANGE IS GOING TO AFFECT JUNE 30, A MONDAY WITH BILLING EFFECTIVE JULY AND WE HAVE HEARD MULTIPLE TIMES WE WILL ROLL OUT RUST TEST MICROBUS COMMITTEE KITCHENS PLAN TO ENSURE WE TALK ABOUT THE CHANGE IN SERVICE AND THESE ARE POSITIVE THINGS. THE NEW THRESHOLD EMPHASIZING THAT DOING AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO EDUCATETHE

PUBLIC. >> ONE FACT IF I MAY, RIGHT NOW A DRIVE-BY GOING BY A HOUSE, 20,800 FOR HOMES UNDER CURRENT BULK GOING ONCE A MONTH WITH THIS WEEKLY TRIBE BUYS OVER 1 MILLION UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF AWARE DRIVING BY SAUGUS HE RUN A COUPLE ROUTES. THE ONE POINT THE 1.103 MILLION. SO OBVIOUSLY THE SERVICE LEVELS AND IS THE SAME SCHEDULE WE HAVE CURRENTLY

INAUDIBLE ] >> YOU HAVE AN ELECTRONIC

VERSION AS WELL. >> DEPENDING ON THE OPTION LOOKS LIKE A MAXIMUM INCREASE OF FOUR DOLLARS.

>> THAT'S A DECISION YOU MAKE IN THE FUTURE.

>> IT COULD BE FURTHER BUT I DO WANT TO SEE IS BECAUSE YOU MAY DECIDE TO OPERATE.

>> FOR SOME CLARITY, WHAT IS THE ANNUAL DONATION TO ROWLETT CHARITIES? IS THAT A REQUIREMENT?

>> WE PUT IT IN , I HAVE ADDED IT TO THE ADDENDUM. IF SOMEBODY NEEDS A DONATION AND THEY COME TALK TO ME IT WILL BE QUICKER TO HAVE IT IN THE CONTRACT TO SAY THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY I CAN HAND OUT SO THAT WAY I DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CHANNELS.

IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME SO -- >> YOU GUYS ARE ALL RIGHT.

>> I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS. WE MET A FEW WEEKS AGO. I APPRECIATE YOU BEING FLEXIBLE COMING WITH MORE SOLUTIONS THAN WHAT WE TALK TO STAFF ABOUT BECAUSE AFTER WE LEFT THE MEETING I'M THINKING THAT'S JUST NOT GOING TO WORK THAT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS WE HAVE

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>> THE PROBLEM IS COMMUNICATION. IF WE PUSH IT FORWARD, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WE DO THE ENTIRE REROUTE SO, THERE'S A CHANCE THAT THE TRUCK MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE COME JULY 1 JUST EVERYBODY IS AWARE. WE THINK THE REROUTE WILL BE DONE BUT IT MAY NOT BE. WE HAVE RECYCLE ROUTES RUNNING THE SAME WAY THEY RUN SO WE BELIEVE WE WILL BE OKAY BUT JULY 1 WAS PUSHING IT.

>> LET ME GIVE RICK CREDIT. COMING BACK WITH AUGUST 1 I CALLED RICK AND SAID WE WILL GET KILLED, FREQUENT BACK AND WAS

ABLE TO MAKE JULY 1. >> I WOULD NOT BE DOING MY JOB

IF I WASN'T ASKING. >> WOULD NOT WANT TO GET AHEAD

OF THE -- >> THANK YOU FOR THE EMAIL REQUEST PICK UP OPTION. I THINK THAT IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT.

>> WE WILL WORK THROUGH IT TOGETHER. SOMETHING WE WILL TRY WITH A PICTURE AND IF THE PICTURE DOES NOT WORK, BUT

HOPEFULLY IF IT'S SMALL PILES. >> THAT WOULD BE HUGE SELLING POINT IN ALL THE CONTRACTS YOU'RE WORKING WITH.

>> ABSOLUTELY, SURE. THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS WITH REGARD TO FISCAL YEAR RATE THAT I BELIEVE THE CONTRACT TODAY SAYS THE CITY AND REPUBLIC WOULD MUTUALLY AGREE UPON THE RATE INCREASE THAT HAPPENS YEAR OVER YEAR. WE COMMITTED TO THAT.

>> THERE IS A MINIMUM. UP TO 5%.

>> OBVIOUSLY INFLATION AND ALL THAT HAS BEEN CRAZY. OKAY, RICK, THANK YOU. I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. ALL IN ON OPTION

FOUR. >>

>> I'M SORRY, I DON'T THINK , I THINK WE CAN EDUCATE OUR RESIDENTS AND I CAN LIVE WITH THE SYSTEM WE HAVE. I THINK THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT A 5% INCREASE NEXT YEAR. WE ARE LOOKING AT INFLATION. I MEAN SOME PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT $10 A YEAR IS TOO MUCH FOR THE REC CENTER. BUT THIS IS $25. SO I AM A NO. I THINK PEOPLE CAN LEARN HOW TO MANAGE THEIR TRASH AND WE CAN DO BULK PICKUP ONCE A MONTH. HOW MANY CITIES DO THAT? ONCE A

MONTH. >> DOING IT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. THE QUESTION WAS ASKED INAUDIBLE ] THEY HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. THEY NEVER HAD THE OTHER OPTION. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ONCE A MONTH.

>> THAT'S THE PROBLEM WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING AND IT'S TAKEN AWAY IT'S REALLY REALLY HARD TO ADJUST THAT. IT COULD TAKE A YEAR OR YEARS FOR OUR CITIZENS TO ADJUST.

>> WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT THIS IS A SYSTEM FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THEY REALIZED AND WE HOPE MAYBE THAT DRIVES THE HOME WE WILL

SEE. >> WE ALL HAVE OPINIONS AND

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>> IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL.

>> WE TALKED ABOUT DOING A SURVEY AND ASKING PEOPLE WOULD RATHER HAVE THE PRICE INCREASE OR INCREASED FREQUENCY? WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT. I HAVE IN FORMERLY TALKED AND GOT VERY MIXED REVIEWS. WE HAD ADAMANT PEOPLE WHO SAY I DON'T CARE WHAT IT COSTS YOU NEED TO DO IT AND OTHER PEOPLE SAY I DON'T EVEN USE IT ONCE A MONTH SO I SHOULD I HAVE TO PAY EXTRA? WE HAVE TO BALANCE THOSE TWO THINGS AND I WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF THE PRICE INCREASE WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE? BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS, WE ARE SUBSIDIZING IT IN THE BEGINNING. THE INCREASE THAT WE HAVE THERE ARE GOING TO BE SIMILAR TO THE INCREASE OF EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING IS GOING UP AND PEOPLE EXPECT THAT. THEY DON'T EXPECT IT TO GO UP NOW, BUT THEY DO EXPECT , WE HAVE 8% ON THERE AND WE ALSO HAVE WE HAVING NO RESIN INCREASE IN OPTION 1 P. NOW LOOKING AT A MORE COMMERCIAL INCREASE. WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT. AND WE HAVE A COMMERCIAL INCREASE ON ALL OF IT. I THINK IT IS A GOOD COMPROMISE AND YOU CANNOT A PERFECT SOLUTION TO THIS. WILL NOT FIND A PERFECT SOLUTION. I THINK IT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE AND FRANKLY I AM SURPRISED, ASTONISHED AND PLEASED THAT YOU WOULD COME BACK WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS BECAUSE I NEVER EVER EXPECTED WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET

IT THIS GOOD. >> AGREE.

>> I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK. >> THANK YOU, RICK.

>> THIS IS A GOOD THING TO FIGURE OUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL WITH A BUDGET AND THERE ARE OTHER IN TERMS OF OVERALL TAX BASE AND CUSTOMERS WE ARE TALKING TO BUT I THINK IT IS A SMALL PRICE TO PAY FOR A CLEAN CITY. I THINK PICKUP GOES WITH THE NATURAL RHYTHM OF LIFE , GET RID OF A CHAIR AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO HOLD IT FOR A MONTH OR THREE WEEKS OR 30 DAYS OR WHATEVER IT IS. I THINK THAT'S EASIER WITH PEOPLE TRACKING. APPRECIATE THE WORK

AND THIS IS A GREAT SOLUTION. >> I AM SUPPORTING THIS AS WELL.

AND I RESPECT YOUR POSITION. CERTAINLY LIKE YOU SAID I WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF THE MASSIVE INCREASE BEFORE . I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE EDUCATION PART. WHATEVER OPTION WE CHOOSE AND IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO COMMUNICATE THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO EAT THIS. SEEING WHAT THAT IS GOING TO BE, YOU'RE NOT GETTING AN INCREASE FOR THE REST OF THE FISCAL YEAR, BUT THIS IS WHAT

YOU NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT. >> I AM SAYING YOU CAN TALK

SPECIFIC TO THE OPTION. >> HERE IS MY POINT. I WAS MAKE SURE MY EXPECTATIONS ARE ACCURATE. WE WILL DEFINITELY LET PEOPLE KNOW WE ARE SUBSIDIZING AND WE WILL LET THEM KNOW THE RATE INCREASE IS COMING. WHAT I'M SAYING IS I CANNOT THINK WHICH ONE OF THESE SO THE COUNCIL NOT TELL ME THAT FOR

SEVERAL MONTHS. >> I KNOW I DID NOT SAY NOW, I

SAID WHEN WE ARRIVE. >> THAT WILL BE PART OF THE BUDGET TO MEDICATION. I WANT TO BE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE, WE ARE COMMITTING THIS NOW AND WE WILL COMMUNICATE OUT THERE IS A PRICE INCREASE COMING AND WE WILL COMMITTING OUT THAT WE ARE SUBSIDIZING NOW WE JUST CANNOT BE SPECIFIC ABOUT THE PRICE

INCREASE UNTIL A FUTURE DATE. >> I THINK I SAID LAST TIME I LOOK AT THIS LIKE BASIC CABLE. WHAT IS IN FRONT OF THEM IS BASIC CABLE. IS SOMEBODY SAYS THEY WANT TWICE A MONTH THEY CAN STILL DO THAT BUT THEY WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR THE SERVICE OR THAT CHANNEL SO THE OPTION IS OUT THERE TO PAY AS YOU USE , THAT'S WHAT I ALWAYS SAY. THIS IS BASIC CABLE NOW WEEKLY YOU GET TWO YARDS AND IF YOU WANT TWICE A MONTH PUT EIGHT YARDS OUT TWICE A MONTH THEN SCHEDULE. YOU CAN CALL AND SAMPLING EIGHT YARDS OUT AND SCHEDULE AND PICK IT UP. AND THEN THEY ARE PAYING FOR WHAT THE YEARS BUT NOT THE WHOLE COMMUNITY IS PAYING BECAUSE A LOT MORE BRUSH THAN EVERYBODY ELSE.

>> IF I ASSUME QUICKLY UNDER CONTRACT THERE WOULD BE A PRICE

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>> FOUR POINT >> 4.198 IS THE PRICE INCREASE.

>> ONE THING I LIKE ABOUT THIS AND WHAT IT ADDRESSES, IT SEEMS TO BE THE BIGGEST OFFENDER, NOT THE BULK TRASH IT IS LAWN CLIPPINGS. TYPICALLY TWO BAGS OR THREE , THAT IS A TYPICAL LOAD.

THE CURRENT SYSTEM BECAUSE MOST LAWN COMMITTEES DO NOT PICK IT UP, THAT'S THE WAY THEY DO IT. SO I SEE IT IN MY NEIGHBOR, MONDAY THEY PICK IT UP TODAY AND TOMORROW THE GRASS CLIPPINGS GO OUT ON THE CURB AND THE NEXT WEEK THE GRASS CLIPPINGS GET DOUBLED IN THE GET DOUBLED AND DOUBLED AND IT GOES ON AND ON.

SO IT'S NOT THE GUY REMODELING THE KITCHEN OR ANYTHING IT'S JUST THAT THE STUDY DRIP DRIP DRIP OF TWO BAGS, TWO BAGS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FOR A MONTH. THIS SOLVES THAT BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT THIS SOLVES THAT BECAUSE TO YOUR .15 OUT OF 16, FOR ME THAT IS WHAT VISUALLY WAS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM. WE HAD THE EDUCATION PART NOW WHERE PEOPLE DO UNDERSTAND OKAY THIS IS WHAT I GET AS MY SERVICE. ANYTHING ABOVE THAT I'VE GOT TO PAY. I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY EASY SELL AND SEEMS FAIRLY CLEAN. EASY TO UNDERSTAND COMPARED TO WHAT WE

ARE DOING NOW. >> CODE ENFORCEMENT, TOO. I

CAN'T IMAGINE. >> MUCH EASIER WITH THIS.

>> I LIKE THIS A LOT. >> SOUNDS LIKE EVERYBODY HAS HAD A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS ITEM. WE HAVE THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN FAVOR OF BRINGING IT BACK TO THE MAY 6 MEETING TO BE RECONSIDERED FOR APPROVAL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR RICK OR DAVID? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, RICK. >> ALL RIGHT WITH THAT WE MOVE

[2. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

>>> COUNCIL HAS CONCLUDED EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH NO ACTION TAKEN, IT

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.