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>> GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
WELCOME TO THE ROWLETT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF MAY 27TH, 2025.
AS AUTHORIZED BY SECTION 5-5. 1 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THIS MEETING MAY BE CONVENED INTO CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF SEEKING CONFIDENTIAL LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY ON ANY MATTER, AGENDA ITEM HEREIN. THE CITY OF ROWLETT RESERVES THE RIGHT TO RECONVENE, RECESS, REALIGN THE REGULAR SESSION OR CALLED EXECUTIVE SESSION OR ORDER OF BUSINESS AT ANY TIME PRIOR TO ADJOURNMENT.
PROCESS FOR PUBLIC INPUT, IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND IN PERSON, YOU MAY COMPLETE THE CITIZENS INPUT FORM ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE BY 3:30 P.M. THE DAY OF THE MEETING.
ALL FORMS WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING. FOR IN PERSON COMMENTS, REGISTRATION FORMS, AND INSTRUCTIONS ARE AVAILABLE INSIDE THE DOOR OF THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS. WE HAVE A QUORUM SORNGS WE'LL , SO WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
NEXT ITEM IS CITIZENS' INPUT. AT THIS TIME, THREE- MINUTE COMMENTS WILL BE TAKEN FROM THE AUDIENCE ON ANY TOPIC. NO ACTION CAN BE TAKEN BY THE COMMISSION DURING CITIZENS' INPUT.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO AHEAD
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AND CLOSE THE CITIZENS' INPUT. NEXT ITEM IS CONSENT AGENDA, THE FOLLOWING MAY BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION.A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OR A CITIZEN MAY REQUEST ITEMS BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
WE HAVE ONE ITEM, CONSIDER ACTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF MAY 13TH, 2025, REGULAR MEETING. I WOULD LIKE TO PULL THAT FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT? OKAY. SO, THE REASON WHY I WANT TO PULL THAT FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA IS BECAUSE IN THE MINUTES IT READS UNDER CITIZENS' INPUT, DAVE HALL ADDRESSED THE COMMISSION ON HIS DISAGREEMENT WITH A PRIOR BUILDING APPROVAL THAT ENCROACHES UPON HIS PROPERTY LINE. AND THAT'S ACTUALLY INCORRECT IN SEVERAL INSTANCES. BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT REWORDED AS, DAVE HALL ADDRESSED THE COMMISSION ON HIS DISAGREEMENT WITH A PERCEIVED ENCROACHMENT OF HIS PROPERTY LINE. ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS? AGREE, DISAGREE? THEN I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES WITH THAT AMENDMENT. MR. HERNANDEZ.
>> I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES WITH THE AMENDED CHANGE.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY MR. HERNANDEZ.
SECONDED BY MISS WILSON. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? CALL TO VOTE. AND WE'RE WAITING.
AND THAT IS -- THAT PASSES 7-0. MOVING ON TO ITEM
[4A. Take action on the Lakeview Parkway Preliminary Plat submitted by Michael Hodges, Windrose, on behalf of Austin Read. The property is located at the southeast of the intersection of Lakeview Parkway and Main Street, consisting of 7.727-acres of the R. Christ Survey A-225 and the U. Matthusen Survey, Abstract No. 1017 in the City of Rowlett, Dallas County, Texas]
FOUR, INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, THE PUBLIC HEARING COMMENTS MAY BE MADE IN PERSON AND WILL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. REGISTRATION FORMS AND INSTRUCTIONS ARE AVAILABLE INSIDE THE DOOR OF THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.ITEM 4A, TAKE ACTION ON LAKEVIEW PARKWAY PRELIMINARY PLAT SUBMITTED BY MICHAEL WINDROSE ON BEHALF OF AUSTIN READ, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST INTERSECTION OF LAKEVIEW PARKWAY AND MAIN STREET, CONSISTING OF 7. 727 ACRES OF THE R. CHRIST SURVEY A- 225 AND THE U. MATTHUSEN SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 1017 IN THE CITY OF ROWLETT, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS.
>> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. BRITNEY MUSSER, REPRESENTING AGENDA ITEM 4A, 2700 LAKEVIEW PARKWAY, IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WITH A BASE OWNING GENERAL COMMERCIAL RETAIL. THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2024, RELATIVELY RECENTLY.
IT IS APPROVED TO CONSTRUCT SIX PAD SITES.
THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS FOR A PRELIMINARY PLOT, THIS CAME ABOUT BECAUSE ONE OF THE PAD SITES WHICH WILL BEBE ON -- IF THIS IS APPROVED LOT THREE, IS COMING IN FOR THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. BUT BECAUSE THIS IS COMING IN AS A PHASED DEVELOPMENT, NEED TO GO AHEAD AND COME IN AND DO THE PRELIMINARY PLOT TO ESTABLISH THOSE LOT LINES, OTHERWISE IT IS HARD TO, YOU KNOW, DO SOME OF OUR STANDARDS AS FAR AS LANDSCAPING, TREE MITIGATION, SO ON AND SO FORTH. WE NEED THE LOT
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LINES PRELIMINARILY PLOTTED SO WE CAN REVIEW THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THIS HERE IS THE APPROVED CONCEPT PLAN, THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE LARGE PAD SITE IN THE MIDDLE OFF OF LAKEVIEW.SO THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY PLOT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
SO I DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH TWO CONDITIONS, THE REASON BEING FOR PLOTS, WE ARE ON A 30-DAY SHOP CLOCK FROM SUBMITTAL DATE. WE HAVE TO GET IT BEFORE YOU WITHIN THE TIME PERIOD. IF THEY'RE NOT MEETING ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS, WE HAVE THE OPTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH SOME CONDITIONS, CONDITIONS BEING RELATED BACK TO THE RDC TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE MEETING THE REGULATORY CODES OR RECOMMEND DENIAL. SO STAFF FELT THE MOST APPROPRIATE WAY WAS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL, SO FIRST ACCESS EASEMENT ON THE FINAL PLOT AND THE SECOND THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE REQUIRED EASEMENTS TO THE FINAL PLOTS.
EASEMENTS ARE BEING DETERMINED. THOSE ARE LARGELY FIGURED OUT DURING THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND THE CIVIL CONSTRUCTION SET PLAN, SO THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS STILL UNDER REVIEW.
ONCE THAT IS APPROVED, IT WILL GO TO THE CIVIL AND SO DURING THOSE TWO PHASES IS WHEN WE REALLY FLESH OUT THE EASEMENTS. AND SO THOSE WILL BE ADDED AS PART OF THE FINAL PLOT. THE SECOND CONDITION, I'LL GO BACK FOR THIS, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE TWO DRIVEWAYS THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR THIS SITE, NEITHER OF THEM ARE ON LOT THREE. AND NEITHER OF THEM ARE ON WHAT IS GOING TO BE LOT ONE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS AN ACCESS EASEMENT SOMEWHERE ON THIS SITE THAT GOES ACROSS ALL OF THESE LOTS TO MAKE SURE EVERY LOT HAS ACCESS TO A RIGHT OF WAY.
THAT IS JUST REQUIRED FOR DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES.
YOU CAN'T LOCK SOMEONE IN AND NOT GIVE THEM ACCESS, BUT WE DON'T WANT EVERY SINGLE LOT TO HAVE A DRIVEWAY OFF LAKEVIEW. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THAT CONDITION ON THERE. SO WE DO RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THOSE TWO CONDITIONS. AND THEY ARE MEETING ALL THE OTHER TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, RDC AND TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.
THAT CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISS MUSSER.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE. WITH THAT BEING SAID, ANY -- I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MR.
POLLARD. >> I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAN AS SUBMITTED WITH THE CONDITIONS OF STAFF RECOMMENDATION ONE, THE APPLICAN WILL PROVIDE ACCESS EASEMENT ON THE FINAL PLOT AND, TWO, THE APPLICANT WILL ADD REQUIRED EASEMENTS ON THE FINAL PLAN.
>> VERY WELL. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. COMMISSIONER POLLARD, SECONDED BY MISS WILLIAMS. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SEEING NONE, WE'LL CALL THE VOTE.
[4B. Take action on a request by Mickey Hatzenbuehler, on behalf of the property owner Stephen Deere; Crossroads Church, for a non-residential replat to adjust the common lot line between Lot 1 and Lot 2 and to add a 24-foot emergency access easement. The 15.14-acre property is located south of the intersection of Liberty Grove Road and Chiesa Road, addressed as 7900 Chiesa Road, and is further described as Lot 1 and Lot 2, Block 1, Crossroads Church, in the City of Rowlett, Dallas County, Texas.]
AND THAT IS APPROVED 7-0. NEXT ITEM IS CONDUCT THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON REQUEST BY STACY TUCKER ON BEHALF OF PROPERTY OWNERS JEFF AND DEBBIE MAXEY REGARDING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR A CLOSED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WITH AN AREA GREATER THAN 500 SQUARE FEET ON THE PROPERTY ZONED SINGLE FAMILY SF- 40, APPROXIMATELY . 46 ACRE LOT IS SITUATED SOUTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF HICKOX AND TOLER ROAD. ADDRESSED AS 3205 TOLER DRIVE, ALSO DESCRIBED AS LOT 13, BLOCK 1, CHANDLER PARK.>> CHAIRPERSON -- APOLOGIES, ITEM 4B SHOULD HAVE BEEN --
>> SORRY, I ROLLED OVER 4B. SO I TAKE THAT BACK.
SCRATCH THAT FROM THE RECORD. ITEM 4B, TAKE ACTION ON A REQUEST BY MICKEY -- THAT'S THE REASON I RAN OVER THIS ONE.
HATZENBUEHLER ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER STEPHEN DEERE CROSSROADS CHURCH FOR A NONRESIDENTIAL REPLAT TO ADJUST THE COMMON LOT LINE BETWEEN LOT ONE AND LOT TWO AND TO ADD 24- FOOT EMERGENCY ACCESS EASEMENT. THE 15. 14 ACRE PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF LIBERTY GROVE ROAD AND CHIESA ROAD, ADDRESSED AS 7900 CHIESA ROAD AND FURTHER DESCRIBED AS LOT ONE, LOT TWO, BLOCK ONE, CROSSROADS CHURCH, IN THE CITY OF ROWLETT, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS.
>> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. LILYANA MOREJON PRESENTING THIS ITEM TONIGHT.
SO THIS IS THE REQUEST IS FOR REPLAT TO ADDRESS COMMON LOT LINES AND TO ADD 24 FOOT EMERGENCY ACCESS SO ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE SPLITTING ONE LOT INTO TWO. THE LOCATION IS AT 7900 CHIESA ROAD, FOR RELIGION ASSEMBLY AND MULTIPLE ZONING DISTRICTS, YOU'LL SEE SF- 10, USED FOR
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DAY CARE USE, AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AS OF TODAY. THE SITE IS CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW BECAUSE THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED AN EXPANSION TO THE PARKING LOT, WHICH IS WHY YOU SEE THAT THERE IS A NEW ACCESS EASEMENT ADDED TO THIS NEW REPLAT AND IN ADDITION TO THE -- GOING THROUGH TWO LOTS.IN THIS CASE, I'VE ADDED ALSO THE REQUIREMENTS FOR APPROVAL OF A FINAL PLAT OR REPLAT FOR THE REASON THE APPLICANT HASN'T ADDRESSED COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN REQUIRED BY STAFF FOR A WHILE PERTAINING THAT HAMMERHEAD, WE STILL HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT, WE NEED CLARIFICATION. WE'RE ASKING FOR CLOSURE REPORTSREPORTS CORRECTIONS ON THE LANGUAGE ON THE ACTUAL PLAT. SO THAT HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED YET FOR THAT REASON WE ARE REQUESTING DENIAL OF THIS PLAT. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT --
>> COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS MOREJON? THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT HERE?
>> OKAY. SO, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.
>> I DIDN'T PUSH IT. DID YOU PUSH IT? I DIDN'T PUSH IT.
>> OKAY, NEVER MIND. DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? MR.
HERNANDEZ. >> I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION TO DENY THE REPLAT.
>> DO WE HAVE A SECOND BY MR. POLLARD? ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? MR. POLLARD? DISCUSSION OR JUST --
>> NOT A PROBLEM. SEEING NO DISCUSSION, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CAL THE VOTE TO DENY THE REPLAT. AND THAT PASSES 7-0.
[4C. Conduct a public hearing and make a recommendation to City Council on a request by Stacy Tucker, on behalf of property owners Jeff and Debbie Maxey, regarding a Special Use Permit to allow for an enclosed accessory structure with an area greater than 500 square feet on a property zoned Single Family (SF-40). The approximately 0.46-acre lot is situated southeast of the intersection of Hickox and Toler Road. Addressed as 3205 Toler Drive, also described as Lot 13, Block 1, Chandler Park Rep, in the City of Rowlett, Dallas County, Texas.]
OKAY. NOW WE'RE BACK TO ITEM 4C.Y'ALL ARE SUPPOSED TO STOP ME WELL BEFORE I GOT TO THE LAST LINE OF THAT, BUT WHAT -- CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON REQUEST BY STACY TUCKER ON BEHALF OF PROPERTY OWNERS JEFF AND DEBBIE MAXEY REGARDING SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR AN ENCLOSED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WITH AN AREA GREATER THAN 500 SQUARE FEET ON A PROPERTY ZONED SINGLE FAMILY SF-40. THE APPROXIMATELY . 46 ACRE LOT IS SITUATED SOUTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF HICKOX AND TOLER ROAD, ADDRESSED AT 3205 TOLER DRIVE, ALSO DESCRIBED AS LOT 13, BLOCK 1, CHANDLER PARK REP IN THE CITY OF ROWLETT, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS.
>> I'LL ALSO BE PRESENTING THIS ITEM TONIGHT.
THE REQUEST IN FRONT OF YOU IS FOR AN SUP FOR A STRUCTURE OVER 500 SQUARE FEET. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SF- 40 AND THE LOT IS APPROXIMATELY .
46 ACRES. A SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT DOES SHOW A 2700 SQUARE FOOT PRIMARY STRUCTURE, WHICH INCLUDES THAT PRIMARY HOME AND THE ATTACHED GARAGE AND 160 -- APPROXIMATELY 160 FEET OF PORTABLE STORAGE SHED.
PER THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ROWLETT DEVELOPMENT CODE 4, AS YOU HEARD ME SAY BEFORE, WE LOOK AT LOT COVERAGE, HEIGHT AND SETBACK REQUIREMENTS. IN THIS CASE, THE SF-40 DISTRICT DOESN'T HAVE LOT COVERAGE STANDARDS, SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS 35% OF THE REAR LOT COVERAGE COVERED BY THE CODE, IN THIS CASE THAT REAR LOT IS ABOUT -- REAR YARD IS 7600 SQUARE FEET, 35% OF THAT IS ABOUT 2600 SQUARE FEET. THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE PLUS THE 300 SQUARE FOOT DRIVEWAY ADDITIONAL DRIVEWAY THAT THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING TO APPLY TO ADD TO THIS SITE ANDAND THE -- ALREADY EXISTING SHEDDED TOTALS 1600 SQUARE FEET, WHICH REMAINS WITHIN THAT 35% ALLOWABLE REAR YARD COVERAGE.
IN THIS CASE, THE STRUCTURE IS NOT HIGHER THAN THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE. THEY'RE MEETING THE SETBACK
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REQUIREMNTS AS YOU CAN SEE. THERE IS A 15- FOOT SETBACK BETWEEN THE DRAINAGE UTILITY EASEMENT WHICH COVERS 25 FEET FROM THE REAR LOT LINE.THERE IS ABOUT FIVE FEET FROM THE NEAREST LOT LINE AND OVER 100 FEET FROM THE FRONT. AND THE STRUCTURE IS ABOUT EIGHT FEET FROM THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE. IN THIS CASE, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, IT IS USUALLY INCIDENTAL TO THE PRIMARY USE.
THE APPLICANT IS USING IT TO -- LOOKING TO USE IT AS FOR STORAGE FOR AN ANTIQUE, SHOP AND STORAGE FOR PERSONAL ITEMS. IT IS CLEARLY INCIDENTAL TO THE PRIMARY USE. WE DID SEND OUT NOTICES ON MAY 15TH, WE RECEIVED TWO IN FAVOR WITHIN THOSE TWO -- WITHIN THE 200 FOOT NOTICES AND TWO IN FAVOR WITHIN THAT 500 FOOT NOTICE.
NOW TODAY, YOU AS A RECOMMENDING BODY MAY APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY THIS REQUEST.
PRESENTATION. >> AND WE ALSO RECEIVED AN ADDITIONAL IN FAVOR NOTICE, RIGHT?
>> I ADDED IT TO THE PRESENTATION BEFORE PRESENTING IT TO YOU ALL.
>> I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU. IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO YOUR LOT COVERAGE OR YOUR PLAN.
>> ONE SECOND, TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY.
FOR YOUR LOT COVERAGE CALCULATION, DID YOU INCLUDE THE ALREADY EXISTING PORTION OF THE DRIVEWAY THAT WAS IN THE
SIMPLY BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SF- 40 DISTRICT, THERE IS NO LOT COVERAGE FOR THE ENTIRE LOT. WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT --
>> FOR THE REAR, BUT YOU INCLUDED THE 30- FOOT -- OR THE SMALL STORAGE CONTAINER AND THE SIZE OF THE SHOP AND THE ADDITIONAL -- THE ADDITION TO THAT DRIVEWAY.
>> SO THE ADDITION TO THE DRIVEWAY IS BEHIND THE BACK FACADE OF THE PRIMARY HOME.
>> OKAY. IT APPEARED LIKE THERE WAS ALREADY A PORTION OF THE DRIVEWAY THAT WENT BACK THERE AND THEN THEY HAD AN ADDITIONAL EIGHT- FOOT TO THAT DRIVEWAY. AND YOU INCLUDED THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE DRIVEWAY, RIGHT?
>> NO, I JUST INCLUDED THE NEW ADDITION.
>> OKAY. LET ME ASK YOU THIS, MAYBE I'M NOT MAKING THIS CLEAR. THE DRIVEWAY THAT IS BEHIND -- THAT'S IN THE BACKYARD, EXCUSE ME, THE DRIVEWAY THAT'S IN THE BACKYARD ALREADY EXISTS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF EIGHT FEET OF IT, RIGHT?
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ME OF THE COMMISSIONERS? DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE A PRESENTATION? OKAY, THANK YOU. NO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MISS WEIS?
>> THERE IS NO DRIVEWAY AT ALL? THERE IS AN EXISTING
DRIVEWAY. >> THERE WAS AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY, IT WASN'T COUNTED TOWARD THE LOT COVERAGE.
>> SO THAT WAS A QUESTION, THAT WASN'T -- OKAY.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.
>> DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO ACCEPT THE SUP APPLICATION, SECONDED BY MISS WILSON, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE.
ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. CALL THE VOTE. AND THAT PASSES 7-0.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BACK UP.
>> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BACK UP.
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>> I IDN'T HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO, WE'LL VOID -- THAT WAS A GOOD TEST RUN, YEAH.
GOOD TEST RUN. SO AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SEEING NO INPUT, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TRY THAT ONE MORE TIME. MR. POLLARD, MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SUP, SECONDED BY MISS WILSON, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? NO? CALL THE VOTE.
AMAZINGLY WE STILL GOT 7- 0, EXCELLENT.
NEXT ITEM, 4D, CONDUCT THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON A REQUEST BY AKHILA REDDY ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER SREELAKSHMI TINNANOORU -- I APOLOGIZE VERY MUCH IF YOU'RE IN THE AUDIENCE LOOKING AT ME -- REGARDING A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT TO THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 1698 TO ALLOW, ONE, A DAY CARE, TWO, EXCEED THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED PARKING SPACES, THREE, ELIMINATE THE REQUIRED DROPOFF AND PICKUP LANES ON APPROXIMATELY 1. 49 ACRE LOT, CLASSIFIED AS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 1698A WITH A GENERAL COMMERCIAL RETAIL C-2 BASE ZONING.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SITUATED AT 5602 DEXHAM ROAD, LOT 2, BLOCK A, TALLAL ADDITION IN THE CITY OF ROWLETT, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS.
MISS MOREJON. >> THIS IS THE LAST ITEM I'LL BE PRESENTING TONIGHT.
4D, THE REQUEST IN FRONT OF YOU IS TO AMEND THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR GENERAL C- 2 USES FOR THE FOLLOWING TO ALLOW FOR A DAY CARE USE BY RIGHT, INCREASE THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED PARKING SPACES AND THE ELIMINATION OF REQUIRED DROPOFF AND PICKUP LANES. THIS IS AN UNDEVELOPED LOT.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY'S PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR GENERAL COMMERCIAL USES, THE AMENDMENT IS ONLY GOING TO APPLY TO LOT 2, HIGHLIGHTED IN RED IN THE IMAGE TO YOUR RIGHT.
THE APPLICANT DID NOT PROVIDE A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS BECAUSE PER OUR CODE, IT IS NOT -- WE DID NOT DEEM IT REQUIRED BASED ON THE STANDARDS THAT YOU'RE SEEING ON MY PRESENTATION TONIGHT AND ALSO HIGHLIGHTED ON MY STAFF REPORT. WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME OPERATIONAL DETAILS WITH WHERE YOU CAN SEE -- WHERE THE DAY-CARE CENTER WILL BE SERVING ABOUT 80 TO 100 STUDENTS, AND ABOUT 20 TO 24 STAFF MEMBERS. THE SURROUNDING LAND USE PATTERNS AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A FEW -- SOME RESIDENTIAL, SOME COMMERCIAL, SO IT IS A MIX, AND ALSO PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS. BUT THE IMAGE TO MY RIGHT IS OUR LAND USE MAP. SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE NOT SEEING PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS HIGHLIGHTED WITHIN THAT IMAGE.
THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN THAT THIS AREA SPECIFICALLY CALLS FOR RETAIL COMMERCIAL OFFICE USE.
JUST TO PROVIDE YOU SOME BACKGROUND, MORE BACKGROUND INFORMATION AND PARAMETERS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. IN THIS CASE, A DAY CARE USE IS ONE OF THOSE USES THAT YOU'RE NOT -- IS NOT NECESSARILY FULLY COMMERCIAL USE, BUT IT IS ALSO NOT RESIDENTIAL, SO IT FALLS WITHIN THAT -- THOSE PARAMETERS OF IF IT IS BEST WITHIN HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREA, OR LIMITED COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS WHY IN OUR RELATIVE DEVELOPMENT CODE YOU SEE IT AS SUBSPECIAL USE PERMIT WHERE YOU HAVE THE PREROGATIVE TO UNDERSTAND WHETHER OR NOT THAT FITS WITHIN, YOU KNOW, THE AREA THAT IT IS BEING PROPOSED. IN THIS CASE, AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR A DAY CARE USE BY RIGHT WITHIN -- AND THE PROPOSING OF 10,000 SQUARE FOOT STRUCTURE, 50 FOOT SETBACK, MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF 30 FEET, AND TWO POINTS OF EGRESS AND INGRESS FROM DEXHAM ROAD AND I HIGHLIGHT THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS PER THE ROWLETT DEVELOPMENT CODE AND IN THIS CASE WHICH IS ONE SPACE PER 400 SQUARE FEET OF UNIT OR BUILDABLE AREA, AND ONE SPACE PER -- FOR PICKUP AND DROPOFF.
AGAIN, THE DEVIATIONS THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING IS NOT ONLY THAT THIS USE IS ALLOWED
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BY RIGHT, BUT ALSO TO INCREASE THE PARKING STANDARDS FROM 26 REQUIRED TO 40, WHICH IN OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT EXCEEDS 225 OF THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED PARKING SPACES.AND THE REASONING WHY IS JUST THE OPERATIONAL -- THE OPERATIONAL STANDARDS REQUIRES THIS TYPE OF ASK BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING WHAT I'LL BE ASKING -- WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR NEXT, WHICH IS DROPOFF AND PICKUP LANES.
WHICH LEADS ME TO THE LAST REQUEST, WHICH IS TO ELIMINATE THOSE DROPOFF AND PICKUP LANES REQUIRED BY THE ROWLETT DEVELOPMENT CODE, AGAIN, FOR THE REASONS THAT IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THEIR OPERATIONAL MODEL. AND SOME OF THE -- SOME OF THE STAFF CONCERNS IN THIS CASE IS PERTAINING TO THE TWO WAY CIRCULATION OF TRAFFIC THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING.
WE NOTICED JUST FROM BEST PRACTICES THAT IT IS USUALLY BETTER TO HAVE A ONE- WAY TRAFFIC FLOW FOR FEWER COLLISION POINTS, CHILDREN -- IT AVOIDS CHILDREN CROSSING IN FRONT -- OR IN BETWEEN CARS, SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO POINT OUT.
THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A JUSTIFICATION TO WHY, YOU KNOW, THEIR WAY OF OPERATING WOULD ALSO WORK, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION. WE DID SEND OUT NOTICES FOR THIS -- FOR THIS ITEM, AND WE RECEIVED ZERO IN OPPOSITION AND ZERO IN FAVOR WITHIN 200 AND 500 FEET BUFFER ZONES. IN THIS CASE, YOU AS A RECOMMENDING BODY, AGAIN, HAVE THE PREROGATIVE TO APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY THIS REQUEST. AND THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE WITH A PRESENTATION TO ADDRESS ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS AND ANYTHING PERTAINING TO THE BUSINESS MODEL.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. STAFF -- OR COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.
[4D. Conduct a public hearing and make a recommendation to City Council on a request by Akhila Reddy, on behalf of property owner Sreelakshmi Tinnanooru regarding a Planned Development (PD) Amendment to Planned Development (1-6-98A) to allow 1) a Daycare 2) exceed the maximum allowed parking spaces 3) eliminate the required drop-off/pickup lanes on an approximate 1.49 acre lot, classified as Planned Development (1-6-98A) with a General Commercial/Retail (C-2) base zoning. The subject property is situated at 5602 Dexham Road, Lot 2. Block A, Tallal Addition, in the City of Rowlett, Dallas County, Texas.]
I'LL HAVE THE APPLICANT.>> HI, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS VENSHA.
>> IF YOU COULD GIVE US YOUR PLACE OF
RESIDENCE. >> I LIVE IN LAS COLINAS.
THIS IS MY FIRST TIME IN ROWLETT.
SO VERY NICE MEETING ALL OF YOU GUYS.
OKAY. SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE -- I'M GOING TO KEEP IT VERY BRIEF.
THE LEARNING EXPERIENCE, IT IS A CHILD CARE CENTER.
AND WE OPERATE AS A BRAND NEARLY 500 DAY-CARE CENTERS, JUST IN U.S.
AND LAST YEAR WE OPENED ONE IN UK AS WELL. AND WE'RE PLANNING TO GO GLOBAL.
AND CURRENTLY THE LEARNING EXPERIENCE AS A BRAND SERVES ABOUT 54,000 CHILDREN AND OUR MOST RECENT DEVELOPMENTSDEVE LOPMENTS IN KELLER AND RICHARDSON, NEIGHBORING, VERY CLOSE BY CITIES.
FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS WE ALSO HAVE BEEN VOTED THE NUMBER ONE CHILD CARE FRANCHISEE AS PER "ENTREPRENEUR" MAGAZINE AS WELL. THE COMMUNITY AND THE PARENTS REALLY LOVE US. AND ANYTHING WE DO, WE TAKE, YOU KNOW, CHILD CARE IS VERY IMPORTANT BUSINESS BECAUSE THE FIRST SIX YEARS OF A CHILD'S LIFE IS VERY IMPORTANT.
IT SETS UP A FOUNDATION FOR SUCCESS IN THEIR LATER LIFE.
SO, OUR PRIORITY, WHENEVER PARENTS ARE DROPPING OFF THE CHILDREN, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PROVIDE ENVIRONMENT THAT IS SAFE FOR THEM. IT IS HAPPY AND THEY'RE ALSO LEARNING. AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH AS A BRAND, THAT'S WHAT WE DO. AND THESE ARE A FEW VISUALS OF HOW THE SCHOOL IS GOING TO COME OUT TO BE.
THE COP LEFT IS OUR LOBBY. THE RIGHT SIDE COLUMNS ARE OUR CLASSROOMS. AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE VERY VIBRANT, WE HAVE A LOT OF CHARACTERS THAT CHILDREN LOVE AND THE PLAYGROUND WILL LOOK SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT.
AND THESE ARE A FEW MORE VISUALS AND WE USE A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY AS WELL TO BE PART OF THE S.T.E.M. CURRICULUM. AND THIS IS HOW THE SITE PLAN, PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN IS GOING TO BE FOR THE SCHOOL IN THAT 1. 49 ACRES.
IT IS A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AND 5,000 SQUARE FOOT PLAY AREA. AND THESE ARE THE SITE BUILDING VISUALS. THE WEST ELEVATION AND SOUTH ELEVATION. IT IS MORE OF A CONTEMPORARY LOOK. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT LOOKS NICE. OUR REQUEST IS TO PERMIT THE CHILD CARE CENTER HERE, AND WE'RE GOING TO BRING THE BEST CHILD CARE CENTER THAT IS THERE AND IN TERMS OF QUALITY, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE IT IS GOING TO BE THE BEST AND MEET AND SURPASS ROWLETT STANDARDS. ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS
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WE'RE ASKING FOR THE EXEMPTION OF THE DROPOFF LANE TO EXCLUDE THAT IS BECAUSE FOR OUR SCHOOLS, NORMALLY PARENTS DON'T JUST COME TO THE DRIVE THROUGH LANE, DROP OFF IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL AND LEAVE. IT IS ALSO A SAFETY HAZARD BECAUSE IT IS IN THE PARKING LOT, RIGHT? SO WHAT THEY DO IS CROSS ALL OF OUR 500 SCHOOLS, PARENTS COME INSIDE, THERE IS A TWO- TIER SECURITY CHECK IN SYSTEM AND THEY GO TO THE CLASSROOM, TALK TO THE TEACHER, CHECK IN, CHECK OUT AND EXIT.THAT PROCESS TAKES UPWARDS OF FIVE MINUTES.
SO AND MAJORITY OF OUR PARENTS ARE GOING TO BE COMING DURING CERTAIN PEAK TIMES. THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE TRAFFIC CONGESTION IF WE HAVE A PICKUP AND DROPOFF LANE AS WELL.
SO REALLY DOESN'T FIT OUR OPERATIONAL MODELS AND NONE OF THE SCHOOLS THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT U.S. HAVE ANY DROPOFF LANES. THAT'S WHY WE'RE REQUESTING THAT. THE SECOND THING IS THE PARKING, WE WANT MORE PARKING THAN THE CITY ALLOWS IS BECAUSE AT FULL BUILDOUT OR FULL OF COURSE PAN CCUPANCY, WE'LL HAVE 48 STAFF HERE.
WE DON'T HAVE TRAFFIC FOR THIS SPECIFIC SITE.
BUT I DID BRING ONE FOR SISTER SITE THAT HAS THE EXACT SAME BLUEPRINT, IF IT IS OKAY, I CAN BRING IT TO YOU
>> YOU HAVE IT, OKAY. AWESOME.
SO THAT SHOWS THAT, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IN THE MORNING PICKUP AND DROPOFF TIMES, THE MAX NUMBER OF CARS PARKED THERE IS AT LEAST 14.
TO ACCOMMODATE THE STAFF AND, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE PARENTS COMING TO DROP OFF THE CHILDREN, IF YOU HAVE AT LEAST 26 STAFF, PLUS 14, WE NEED AT LEAST ON THE MINIMUM AT LEAST 40 PARKING SPACES. AND DEFINITELY THAT'S GOING TO REDUCE THE CONDITION. THE MORE PARKING, THE BETTER. SO, THAT'S KIND OF THE REQUEST FROM OUR SIDE. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE ARE THE RICHARDSON AND KELLER SITES WE JUST FINISHED. THERE IS NO DROPOFF LANE.
AND WE HAVE 40 PARKING SPACES AND THE SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL, NO COMPLAINTS.
AND THIS IS JUST ONE PHOTO OF SOME OF THE CHARACTERS WE BRING INTO THE SCHOOL.
AND THAT'S ME AS SANTA CLAUS AS WELL.
YEAH. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE VERY, VERY -- SO, LEARNING EXPERIENCE AND WE BELIEVE HAPPY HAPPENS HERE AND WE REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO BRINGING THE BEST CHILD CARE CENTER TO THE ROWLETT CITIZENS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? MR. POLLARD?
>> YES, SIR. YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO LIKE MY COMMENT. IS THERE ANY REASON THAT YOU CANNOT FLIP YOUR PLANS? AND I'M TALKING ABOUT MOVING THE BUILDING BACK TO THE NORTH, PUTTING THE PLAYGROUND ON THE SOUTH SIDE TOWARD THE BANK?
>> THE REASON FOR THAT IS YOU HAVE AN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I LIVE OVER BY AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND ALTHOUGH IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME AT THE LEAST, I DON'T HAVE TO SLEEP DURING THE DAY, OR ANYTHING THAT PERHAPS YOU WOULD HAVE PEOPLE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT MIGHT AND THE NOISE FROM THE KIDS AND THE PLAYGROUND IS RIGHT UP AGAINST THE HOUSES. AND I WOULD MUCH PREFER IT BE FLIPPED OVER THAT THEY'RE BACK OVER TOWARD THE BANK BUILDINGAND MAKE IT A LITTLE QUIETER, A CUSHION TO THE NEIGHBORS.
>> THAT'S DEFINITELY A VALID POINT.
IF I WAS LIVING THERE, I WOULD HAVE A SIMILAR QUESTION.
SO WE DEFINITELY TRIED THAT, BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THE SITE IS THE TOPOGRAPHY, RIGHT. SO IT IS KIND OF SLOPING TOWARD THE NORTH SIDE, SO THEY NEED TO HAVE THE DETENTION POND ON THAT NORTHERN AREA AND DUE TO THE SETBACKS THAT ARE THERE RIGHT NOW, AND GIVEN THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS TO RUN THE CENTER, YOU KNOW, IN THE SAFEST WAY, MANNER POSSIBLE, OUR ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS CAME UP WITH THIS OPTION. SO WE DID DEFINITELY TRY TO PUSH IT, BUT COMING TO THE NOISE PART OF IT, RIGHT, THERE IS GOING TO BE A DETENTION POND, IF YOU LOOK IN THE SITE PLAN ON THE NORTH SIDE BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE PLAYGROUND. PLUS THERE IS GOING TO BE A SCREENING WALL THAT IS COMING THERE TO HELP WITH THAT.
PLUS AT ANY GIVEN TIME THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE MORE THAN 20 STUDENTS IN THE PLAYGROUND BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT -- THE WAY OUR -- THE LEARNING EXPERIENCE POLICY HAPPENS,S S IT IS ALWAYS IN ROTATION. IT IS NEVER ALL THE STUDENTS OUT THERE AT ONCE. MAXIMUM 20 STUDENTS AT ANY GIVEN TIME. I HOPE THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION, SIR.
>> COMMISSIONER POLLARD, I ALSO WANTED TO ADD, SO WITHIN OUR LANDSCAPE STANDARDS AND REQUIREMENTS, THERE IS INCAPACITIABILITY BUFFERS WHICH WHEN YOU'RE NEXT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT BUFFER INCREASES QUITE A BIT.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPING PLANS THAT I SUBMITTED WITH THE STAFF REPORT, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF DISTANCE AND THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS TO ABIDE BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS AND ALL -- ALL THAT IS
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REQUIRED FOR, YOU KNOW, TO ADDRESS NOISE AND ANY TYPE OF DISTURBANCE.SO, I APPRECIATE THE STAFF'S VIEW AND I APPRECIATE YOUR VIEW. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE IS TWO HOUSES -- TWO HOUSES, ONE BACKING UP TO ROWLETT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PLAYGROUND, AND A STREET, AND THEN MY NEIGHBOR AND ANOTHER NEIGHBOR BEFORE IT COMES DOWN AND I CAN STAND OUT IN MY -- OR EVEN IN THE HOUSE, I KNOW WHEN THE KIDS ARE OUTSIDE, I HEAR THE WHISTLES, I HEAR THE KIDS YELLING AND SCREAMING, WHICH IS FINE, THAT'S KIDS.
I WOULD HAVE NEVER MOVED OVER THERE IF I HAD A PROBLEM, BUT THAT'S TRAVELING QUITE A WAYS AND WE GOT NOISE, POTENTIAL NOISE THERE THAT'S MUCH CLOSER TO THE HOUSES THAN I AM TO THE PLAYGROUND AT ROWLETT ELEMENTARY.
I CAN TELL YOU IT COMES THROUGH LOUD AND CLEAR AT MY HOUSE. IN THE HOUSE.
SO, AND I HAVE TWO STORY HOUSES IN BETWEEN ME AND THAT.
SO THERE IS TWO TWO- STORY HOUSES AND THE STREETS AND SO FORTH. THE OTHER THING IS TO THE APPLICANT, SO STAFF MENTIONED ABOUT HAVING TWO LANES GOING ONE LANE GOING NORTH, ONE LANE GOING SOUTH ON THE PROPERTY INSTEAD OF JUST ONE WAY DRIVE THROUGH. I THOROUGHLY UNDERSTAND YOUR VIEW ON THE PARKING LOT, AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT WHATSOEVER. BUT UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO PUT UP A TURNING THROUGH THE MEDIAN THERE, I WOULD AGREE WITH STAFF THAT IT NEEDS TO BE ONE WAY BACK TO THE NORTH WHERE THEY COME IN FROM THE SOUTH FROM 66, COME IN AND PARK AND THEN LEAVE AND THEN GO UP TO BE ABLE TO TURN AROUND.
OTHERWISE, YOU GOT TWO LANES GOING DOWN AND THEN THE U- TURN TO DEXHAM TO GO BACK OUT.
SO THE TRAFFIC FLOW IS JUST EASIER TO GO OUT AND UP AND TO BE ABLE TO FLIP TO GO BACK TO 66. THAT'S IT.
>> MY CONCERN ALSO IS WITH THE TWO- LANE -- THE TRAFFIC SETUP HERE. BUT MY PRIMARY CONCERN IS WITH THE SECOND ENTRANCE. THE SECOND ENTRANCE SEEMS A LITTLE AWKWARD TO ME IN THE SENSE OF DEXHAM DRIVE IS GOING MORE TOWARD THE NORTHWEST AND THEN THE ENTRANCE IS KIND OF FLIPPING IT BACK TO THE EAST. PEOPLE AROUND HERE DON'T USUALLY DRIVE IN VERY SMALL VEHICLES.
SO THE ISSUE I'M LOOKING AT HERE IS THAT TURN TO ME, IT IS A TWO- LANE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, ON DEXHAM DRIVE GOING NORTH. SO THEY HAVE TO MAKE THE TURN FROM THE RIGHT. WHICH MEANS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE THAT TURN NOT GO INTO THE EXITING TRAFFIC ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO TO ME, IF A VEHICLE IS COMING IN THERE, SAY THEY'RE DRIVING A LARGE TRUCK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THAT VEHICLE AS THEY MAKE THEIR ENTRANCE WILL PROBABLY BE IN THE EXITING SIDE, THAT THE FRONT DRIVER'S SIDE COULD POSSIBLY BE GOING ON TO THAT SIDE, SO THAT MAY COMPLICATE TRAFFIC F1 FOR ANYBODY TRYING TO EXIT ON TO DEXHAM ON THAT SECTION.
TO MR. POLLARD'S -- MR. POLLARD'S CONCERN ABOUT THE MEDIAN, I BELIEVE YOU WANT TO OPEN UP THE MEDIAN TO HAVE EXITING ON TO SOUTHBOUND DEXHAM FROM THE SOUTHERN ENTRANCE AND EXIT. IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY.
WHICH I THINK IS OKAY, LIKE I SAID, MY NUMBER ONE CONCERN THERE I THINK IS -- WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO MAKE THE NORTHERN ENTRANCE AND EXIT ONLY?
>> OKAY. SO YOU'RE SAYING FOR THE -- IF I'M READING IT CORRECTLY, SO THE NORTHERN SIDE YOU'RE SAYING MAKE IT AS JUST EXIT ONLY?
>> YEAH, BECAUSE I CAN SEE BEING TWO- WAY IN THE SENSE OF WHEN SOMEBODY÷÷ WANTS TO EXIT OUT, IF THEY'RE PARKED IN -- WHERE THE -- I GUESS SPACE NUMBER 12 UP THERE ON THE TOP, IF THEY'RE WANTING TO EXIT OUT AND KIND OF GO SOUTH ON DEXHAM, THEY BASICALLY WOULD HAVE TO COME ALL THE WAY OUT, BUT THE
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NORTHERN INGRESS/EGRESS TO ME MAY SERVE A LITTLE BIT BETTER AS AN EXIT ONLY.>> I THINK DEFINITELY THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CONSIDER AS WELL. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NOTICED DURING THE PARKING FLOW WAS TO ACCOMMODATE ALSO THE TRASH BIN AND ALSO THE TRASH TURN RADIUS AS WELL. AND SOMETIMES THE WAY THEY OPERATE, THEY HAVE -- THEY HAVE -- WE HAD TO GO THROUGH SOME TURN RADIUSES AND TO MAKE SURE THAT -- SOME -- IT WAS CONVENIENT IN TERMS OF OPERATIONALLY FOR THEM. I THINK BASED ON THAT, OUR CIVIL ENGINEER CAME UP WITH THAT.
BUT WE CAN USE SOME SIGNS AS WELL TO SEE IF WE CAN ACCOMMODATE, TRY TO DIRECT IT ONE WAY.
>> SPEAKING OF THE TRACK, SO THE DUMPSTER IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE BUILDING.
>> WAS THERE ANY QUESTION AS TO HOW THE TRUCK WOULD ACTUALLY EXIT? ARE THEY BASICALLY GOING TO BACK UP ALL THE WAY OUT TO DEXHAM OR BACK UP AND THEN KIND OF GO IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING?
>> THEY'RE GOING TO TURN INTO THE SCHOOL AND BACK UP AND TAKE THE TRASH AND GO. SO, THIS WAS ACTUALLY -- WE WENT THROUGH JUST THE BACKGROUND ABOUT THIS PROJECT, SO WE WENT THROUGH -- WE'RE VERY THANKFUL FOR HELPING TO BRING IT TO THIS POINT, BUT I KNOW ROWLETT HAD A CHANGE OF STAFF AS WELL, LIKE, FROM THE PREVIOUS STAFF TO NOW, WE STARTED THIS PROJECT, YOU KNOW, ABOUT ONE YEAR BACK. AND WE HAD THREE MEETINGS ALREADY AND WE STARTED THIS PROJECT, THERE WAS AN ORDINANCE, ACTUALLY THE LOT IS PART OF, IT WAS PASSED IN 1980, WHICH, YOU KNOW, BY RIGHT, GAVE APPROVAL FOR CHILD CARE.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY DUE TO SOME MISCOMMUNICATION IN THE PROCESS AND THERE WAS SOME STAFF TURNOVER FROM CITY SIDE, THAT WAS MISINTERPRETED AND THAT'S WHERE WE HAD TO GO BACK AND CHANGE ALL THE PLANS AND GOT SOME COMMENTS FROM THEM AND BASED ON THAT, THAT'S HOW WE WERE ABLE TO -- THEY RECOMMENDED DUE TO THE TRAFFIC FLOW AND, AGAIN, THE WAY THE TRASH TRUCKS OPERATE HERE, THEY WANTED IT TO BE IN THAT -- THAT'S THE MOST OPTIMAL LOCATION AND THAT'S WHY.
>> DID THEY MENTION HOW THEY FORESEE THE TRUCK ACTUALLY EXITING THOUGH?
>> IT WOULD BE -- SORRY, GO AHEAD.
>> I WAS GOING TO ASK, I CAN ONLY SEE TWO POSSIBILITIES, EITHER ONCE THEY ENTER IN THE SOUTHERN EXIT, GO STRAIGHT TO THE DUMPSTER, PICK UP THE TRASH, WHEN THEY EXIT, EITHER THEY HAVE TO COMPLETELY EXIT ALL THE WAY OUT GOING BACKWARDS ON TO DEXHAM DRIVE, FROM THE SOUTHERN ENTRANCE, OR THEY BACK UP ENOUGH TO GO NORTH TO THE NORTHERN EXIT, WHICH BASICALLY MEANS THAT BIG TRUCK IS GOING TO GO IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
>> DEPENDING WHEN THEY PICK UP, USUALLY VERY EARLY IN THE MORNING FROM A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, THERE IS NOBODY THERE TO, YOU KNOW --
>> THAT'S ACTUALLY VERY GREAT POINT, THANKS FOR MENTIONING THAT AS WELL. THE TIMING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PICKING, WHERE IT IS THE PEAK TRAFFIC TIME, THEY'RE NORMALLY IN DIFFERENT PATTERNS.
A LOT OF TIMES IN CHILD CARE YOU SEE ONLY SPECIFIC TWO SMALL WINDOWS AND THEY'RE OUTSIDE OF THE TRASH PICKUP TIME.
>> OKAY. ONE LAST -- ONE MORE THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT. THE CHANGE TO THE MEDIAN, MY ONLY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT CHANGE TO THE MEDIAN THERE IS THE TRAFFIC EXITING FROM THE BANK WILL MOST LIKELY WANT TO USE THAT AS A U-TURN.
SO, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY PLAN TO MAKE THAT ACTUALLY A DEDICATED TURN INSTEAD OF WHAT APPEARS TO BE A U-TURN.
>> I THINK MAYBE WE CAN PUT A NO U- TURN SIGN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS WELL. ACTUALLY, THAT -- AGAIN, WHEN THE DRS MEETINGS WE WENT THROUGH WITH THE CITY ENGINEERS, THEY RECOMMENDED TO HAVE THE -- TO MAKE SURE THE TRAFFIC FLOWS
>> NOW I HAVE A QUESTION, POSSIBLY A STATEMENT.
BY SETTING UP OR CREATING ONE WAY ENTRANCES AND EXITS, THAT STILL WOULD POSE AN ISSUE BECAUSE DURING PEAK TIMES, WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMING TO PICK UP OR DROP OFF THEIR CHILDREN, YOU STILL MIGHT CREATE SOME TYPE OF ISSUE WITH THAT ALSO.
SO LIMITING THEM COMING IN ONE WAY ONLY OR I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND THAT EITHER BECAUSE WHEN I PICK UP MY -- OR DROP OFF MY GRANDSON AT HIS CHILD CARE , IT JUST LIMITS AND CREATES PEOPLE ON THE STREET WHEN YOU DO THAT. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
>> THANKS SO MUCH FOR SHARING YOUR INSIGHT AS WELL.
DEFINITELY A LOT OF TIMES IN CHILD CARE AS WELL, A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE MUCH SLOWER THAN THE STREET.
SO NORMALLY VERY VIGILANT, WHEN THEY HAVE KIDS IN THE CAR, SO THEY'RE VERY AWARE, VERY CAREFUL WHEN THEY'RE GOING IN AND OUT, YEAH.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
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>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYBODY WISH TO MAKE A COMMENT CONCERNING THIS DAY CARE PROJECT? SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COMMISSIONERS, I'LL ENTERTAIN.
MR. POLLARD? >> OKAY, I'M STILL KIND OF STUCK HERE. AND THANK YOU FOR MR. HERNANDEZ FOR POINTING THAT OUT ON THE -- AND I WOULD ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU ON THE TURN TO MAKE THAT A TURN ONLY ON THE SOUTH ENTRANCE TO THE DRIVEWAY. AND LOOKING AT THE LINES HERE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS 484 AND SLOPING TO THE NORTH.
AND I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE DRAINAGE.
I STILL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE PLAYGROUND BEING ON THE NORTH SIDE VERSUS THE SOUTH SIDE.
>> I JUST WANTED TO ASK COMMISSIONER POLLARD, IS THAT BECAUSE IT MIGHT IMPACT, I GUESS, POTENTIAL FLOODING OR IS THAT WHY YOU'RE ASKING THAT QUESTION AS FAR AS DRAINAGE OR -- I WAS JUST TRYING --
>> THE DRAINAGE PART OF IT, HE MENTIONED ABOUT THE DETENTION POND.
THERE IS A DETENTION POND RIGHT OFF OF DEXHAM ROAD GOING BACK TO THE EAST THERE ON THE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SO, YOUR DRAINAGE, IT IS HIGHER ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAN EVIDENTLY ON THE NORTH SIDE WHERE IT DROPS FROM 484 FEET TO 481.
SO, IF -- SO THE DRAINAGE WOULD RUN THIS WAY.
>> UNLESS THEY HAD TO DO SOME EXTRA EARTH WORK THERE.
SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S SAYING THERE.
BUT I STILL HAVE A PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE THE PLAYGROUND HERE RIGHT UP AGAINST THE HOMES VERSUS DOWN HERE AGAINST THE BANK.
>> WELL, I'M TRYING TO FIND IT. HOW MANY -- I'M SORRY.
MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER THIS FOR ME REAL QUICK INSTEAD OF ME TRYING TO FIND IT HERE. HOW MANY NOTICES DID WE SEND OUT? THERE IT IS.
200, 300 AND WE RECEIVED, WHAT, ZERO? GUESS NOBODY ELSE IS WORRIED ABOUT THE NOISE.
>> BUT DID THEY -- IN ALL FAIRNESS, DID THEY GET SOMETHING THAT TELLS THEM THERE IS A PLAYGROUND BACKED UP AGAINST THEIR PROPERTY VERSUS JUST THE LETTER, WE HAVE A DAY CARE.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE DAY CARE.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM IF I LIVED THERE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PLAYGROUND BE BACKED OFF FROM THE --
>> WELL, I AM WILLING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> ONE QUESTION, BEFORE A MOTION.
WOULD WE BE ABLE TO ADD RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE MOTION?
>> COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ, YOU CAN ADD CONDITIONS TO, YOU KNOW, YOUR APPROVAL, IF YOU DECIDE -- IF THAT'S THE WAY YOU WANT TO GO.
>> REMINDER TO COMMISSIONERS, THIS HAS BEEN VETTED BY THE ENGINEERS AND BUILDING SAFETY AND EVERYBODY ELSE.
I'M WAITING FOR A MOTION. MISS WILSON, WHAT'S YOUR RTS, PLEASE? OKAY. MISS WILSON.
>> THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN, I GUESS, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT
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WE APPROVE, RIGHT?>> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE.
WE HAVE A SECOND BY MISS WEIS? IS THAT CORRECT? YOU'RE SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? MR. POLLARD?
>> OKAY, ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO -- SINCE YOU MADE THE MOTION AND A SECOND TO MAKE ANY AMENDMENTS TO THAT, ESPECIALLY ON THE NUMBER OF --
>> ARE WE GOING TO HAVE, LIKE HE SAID, CERTAIN CONDITIONS, I GUESS THAT'S OFF THE TABLE, I'M JUST GOING TO RECOMMEND, LIKE, WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN --
>> THIS IS RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL, SO I DON'T -- CHAIRMAN CERTAINLY HAS THE -- I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY YOU CAN'T.
>> FOR -- FOR INSTANCE, THE DRIVEWAY.
>> YOU WANT TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITION OF WHAT?
>> WELL, IF YOU'RE GOING TO SAY THAT'S A ONE- WAY DRIVE, VERSUS A TWO- WAY OR LEAVE IT AS IS.
>> I WOULD LEAVE IT AS IS. THAT'S ME.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN THE -- AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION TO MAKE THE NORTHERN ENTRANCE EXIT ONLY. OR HAVE SOME KIND OF SIGNAGE THAT WOULD DISCOURAGE ENTRANCE TO THAT
INGRESS/EGRESS. >> IF YOU'RE COMING FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, DOWN TOWARDS LAKEVIEW, AND YOU HAVE A CHILD THAT YOU WANT TO DROP OFF, WOULDN'T YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE TURN
LANE? >> THAT ENTRANCE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, IN ORDER FOR THEM TO DO THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME DOWN TO THE SOUTHERN INGRESS/EGRESS, WHICH I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH.
>> YOU HAVE A TURN LANE THERE, SO WHY -- I'M NOT SURE WHY WE WOULD NEED TO --
>> I'M TALKING ABOUT THE NORTHERN INGRESS/EGRESS, THAT ONE HAS NO POSSIBILITY FOR ANYBODY COMING SOUTH ON DEXHAM TO TURN LEFT INTO THAT ENTRANCE.
>> CORRECT. SO THEY WOULD BE GOING DOWN TO THE SOUTHERN ONE TO TURN IN.
>> RIGHT. SO WHY WOULD ANYBODY SKIP THE SOUTHERN ONE TO GO IN ON THE NORTHERN ONE?
>> WHICH COULD POSSIBLY CREATE A TRAFFIC ISSUE OF IF SOMEBODY COMES INTO THAT THING, GOING TOO FAST, AND NOW THEY'RE ON THE EXITING SIDE OF TRAFFIC, ESPECIALLY WITH BIGGER VEHICLES, THAT'S MY NUMBER ONE CONCERN THERE.
>> WELL, I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW I DRIVE A BIG TRUCK, AND I RUN INTO THAT PROBLEM ALL OVER THE CITY. AND NOT ONLY THIS CITY, BUT MOST CITIES. SO YOU JUST HAVE TO UNDERSTAND AND BE AWARE OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS AND IF SOMEBODY IS COMING OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY I WANT TO GO IN, I HAVE TO STOP AND WAIT FOR THEM TO GET OUT BEFORE I TURN IN. THAT'S -- I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO RUN THEM OVER. BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DAMAGE MY TRUCK.
>> NO, AND I GUESS WHAT I'M -- IT IS -- I GUESS IT WOULD SERVE TWO PURPOSES, ONE, TO PREVENT THE ISSUE OF A LARGER VEHICLE LIKE YOUR BIG TRUCK GOING INTO THE OUTBOUND TRAFFIC ON THE NORTHERN SIDE TO BASICALLY POSSIBLY CLOG UP TRAFFIC RIGHT THERE, AND THEN THE OTHER THING I WOULD DO IS MORE ENCOURAGE ONE- WAY TRAFFIC GOING FROM SOUTH TO NORTH.
BUT THAT'S -- IF IT IS NOT AN ISSUE, I CAN WITHDRAWWITHDRAW --
>> I'M JUST -- I'M NOT SURE WE WANT TO DICTATE SUCH GRANULAR SUGGESTIONS OR WHAT NOT BECAUSE, AGAIN, THIS IS PRETTY MUCH PEOPLE WHO OPERATE THEIR MOTOR VEHICLES KNOW HOW TO OPERATE THEIR MOTOR VEHICLES.
BAUER. >> I TRY TO STAY OUT OF THIS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
>> IF YOU'RE HEADING NORTH ON DEXHAM, AND YOU NEED TO GO BACK SOUTH ON DEXHAM AFTER YOU DROP OFF YOUR CHILD, THE SAFEST WAY TO DO THAT IS TO GO TO THE SECOND ENTRANCE, TURN IN, COME BACK, SO YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE MEDIAN, AND THEN GO BACK TO THE SOUTH. SO IT PROVIDES AN APPROPRIATE CIRCULATION FOR THEM TO HAVE AN ENTRANCE ON THAT UPPER SIDE COMING FROM -- COMING AROUND, GOING OVER AND GOING BACK DOWN.
OTHERWISE THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND THEN GO UP INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT WOULD IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH TRAFFIC WE DON'T NEED TO IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH. FINALLY, YOUR ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITY IS TO LOOK AT LAND USE.
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AND YOU GUYS TEND TO GET INTO TRYING TO DO TRAFFIC ENGINEERING QUITE A BIT. AND JUST WANT TO REINFORCE WHAT CHAIR COTE SAID, WE HAVE THIS REVIEWED BY THE STAFF ON A REGULAR BASIS TO LOOK AT TRAFFIC SAFETY, EMERGENCY ACCESS, UTILITY ACCESS, ET CETERA. SO I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO STAY FOCUSED ON APPROPRIATE LAND USE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND WHETHER THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE USE FOR THE COMMUNITY, RATHER THAN TRYING TO SECOND GUESS THE TRAFFIC DESIGN, WHICH IS DONE BY AN ENGINEERING STAFF THAT IS FOCUSED ON THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE OF SAFETY AND ACCESSIBILITY.>> OKAY. AND IN THAT CASE, I'LL WITHDRAW MY FRIENDLY MOTION.
>> I GUESS I HAVE MY HAND UP, I WAS ABOUT TO SAY BASICALLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID, I THINK OUR MANDATE HERE IS TO REVIEW THE DAY CARE, THINK ABOUT THE PARKING, WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, THESE THREE ITEMS HERE, AND I'M ASSUMING THERE IS A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS BY AN ENGINEERING TEAM THAT HAS DONE THIS DESIGN.
>> NO, REMEMBER, SHE SAID THAT ONE WAS NOT REQUIRED FOR THIS DUE TO THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC.
>> THE LOW VOLUME, BECAUSE IT IS 26.
OKAY. I GUESS I'M AGREEING WE'RE GETTING INTO THE ENGINEERING WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT LAND USE. SO, THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT.
>> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY MISS WILSON TO APPROVE ITEM 4D AS PRESENTED.
MISS WEIS SECONDS IT. AND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? CALL THE VOTE.
AND THAT IS 5- 1 WITH ONE ABSTENTION.
[4E. Conduct a public hearing and make a recommendation to the City Council on a request by Stefanie Cooke, on behalf of property owner Kent Stainback, KMS Retail Huntsville LP, regarding a Special Use Permit to allow for an unmanned aircraft system hub on a property zoned General Commercial/Retail (C-2). The subject property is located generally east of Kenwood Drive and north of Lakeview Pkwy, consisting of a 2.85-acre tract described as a portion of Lot 6RA, Block A of the amending replat of Lukes Landing Lots 5ARA and 6RA, Block A, in the City of Rowlett, Dallas County, Texas.]
WE'RE ACTUALLY AHEAD OF MY PROJECTED TIME FRAME.CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON A REQUEST BY STEPHANIE COOKE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER KENT STAINBACK KMS RETAIL HUNTSVILLE LP REGARDING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR AN UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEM HUB ON A PROPERTY ZONED GENERAL COMMERCIAL RETAIL C-2. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED GENERALLY EAST OF KENWOOD DRIVE, AND NORTH OF LAKEVIEW PARKWAY, CONSISTING OF 2. 85 ACRE TRACT DESCRIBED AS A PORTION OF LOT 6RA, BLOCK A, OF THE AMENDING REPLAT OF LUKES LANDING LOTS 5ARA AND 6RA, BLOCK A, IN THE CITY OF ROWLETT, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS. MISS MUSSER.
>> GOOD EVENING, AGAIN. OUR LAST ITEM IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUEST LOCATED AT KENWOOD DRIVE, THIS SHOULD BE VERY FAMILIAR TO YOU ALL. WE HAD KENWOOD TOWN HOMES TO THE NORTHEAST, AND WE ALSO RECENTLY HEARD THE AMENDMENT WHICH IS ALLOWING THIS ITEM TO COME BEFORE YOU TODAY, SO EVERYONE SHOULD BE FAIRLY FAMILIAR WITH THIS REQUEST AT THIS POINT.
IT IS AN SUP FOR UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEM HUB.
IT IS A 2. 85 ACRE SITE, THE ACTUAL HUB WILL BE 10,000 SQUARE FEET, RIGHT UP AGAINST THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE CLOSE TO THE PARKING AREA DOWN THERE.
SO THIS WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 500 FEET FROM THE NEAREST RESIDENTIAL WHERE THE HUB ACTUALLY WILL BE LOCATED.
AND THIS SITE IS CONFORMING TO ALL THE APPROVED USE SPECIFIC REGULATIONS AS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. SO THIS IS THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN ITSELF, SO IT IS GOING TO HAVE TEN DOCKS, THEY ARE REQUESTING GRAVEL PAVING, AND THEY ARE PROVIDING 8- FOOT WELDED WIRE MESH SCREENING FENCE ALONG THE OUTSIDE OF THE HUB, AND REQUESTING TO NOT PROVIDE ANY LANDSCAPING.
SO, AGAIN, I WANTED TO POINT OUT, SO THEY'RE MEETING ALL THE USE SPECIFIC STANDARDS, BUT THEY DO HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL ASKSASKS YOU ALL TONIGHT SPECIFICALLY FOR PAVING. SO ROWLETT DEVELOPMENT CODE DOES REQUIRE CONCRETE, THEY'RE ASKING TO BE ALLOWED TO USE GRAVEL INSTEAD.
AND BECAUSE THIS IS A PRIMARY USE ON THE SITE, IT IS SUBJECT TO 77504 LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS, THEY'RE ASKING FOR A WAIVER TO THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS. THAT'S PART OF THE ASK HERE TONIGHT. SO THE COMMISSION MAY RECOMMEND APPROVAL, APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS, OR DENIAL.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT AND THEY
HAVE A PRESENTATION. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU.
COULD YOU BACK UP TO YOUR SLIDE? AND YOU SAID THAT THE
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SITESITE BE 500 FEET FROM THE NEAREST -->> SO, THEY ARE SPECIFIC HUB SITES, NOT THE OVERALL PARCEL, BUT THE SPECIFIC WHERE THEY ARE SHOWING THE HUB IS APPROXIMATELY 500 FEET FROM THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL. JUST TO CLARIFY, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE GETTING UP THERE, IF KENWOOD IS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL OR ANY RESIDENTIAL CITY COUNCIL, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THIS SITE WOULD BECOME NONCONFORMING IN SOME CAPACITY, BUT TECHNICALLY AS OF RIGHT NOW THEY ARE CONFORMING TO THAT REQUIREMENT THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL OF THAT DISTANCE REQUIREMENT.
>> THAT REALLY BRINGS UP AN INTERESTING QUESTION.
WOULD THEY BECOME NONCONFORMING OR WOULD THE KENWOOD HEIGHTS BE NONCONFORMING? SO ESSENTIALLY WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO EXPAND ANY ON THIS HUB BEYOND THIS POINT. THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE --
>> WHY DOES THAT NOT SURPRISE ME?
>> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.
MY NAME IS STEPHANIE COOKE, SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO.
I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION. MOST OF IT IS THE SAME MATERIAL I PRESENTED A FEW WEEKS AGO. SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE, WE CAN JUMP TO SOME OF THE SPECIFICS OF THE SITE.
OR I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH MATERIAL AGAIN IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH ANY OF IT AGAIN.
>> IS EVERYBODY GOOD WITH HER SKIPPING HER PRESENTATION AND JUMPING INTO THE MEAT OF THE QUESTION?
>> SORRY, TECHNICAL ISSUES. IT'S THAT TECHNOLOGY PART THAT'S --
>> YOU GUYS KNOW WHY THIS ISN'T WORKING, RIGHT? YOU'RE NOT SITTING IN THE RIGHT CHAIRS.
>> SO MUCH FOR RUNNING AHEAD OF MY SCHEDULE.
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>> DID YOU BRING IN A FLOPPY DISK OR SOMETHING?
>> I REMEMBER THE NINE HIM INCH FLOPPY
DISK. >> I WANTED TO SAY I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
>> I DID USE FLOPPY DISKS GROWING UP AND VHRS, THOSE TOO, AND MP3S.
>> THOSE WERE THE THINGS, MAN. THAT WAS GOING TO BE IT.
MR. BAUER, DO YOU HAVE ANY CRAYONS OVER THERE?
ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SO I SKIPPED FORWARD IN THE PRESENTATION.
BEFORE WE GO TO THE SITE PLAN, I FIGURE IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO DO A QUICK REFRESHER ON WHAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE.
SO THERE ARE TWO MAIN PIECES OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS THE UAS KIOSK, LIGHTWEIGHT, NO CONSTRUCTION INFRASTRUCTURE OPTION. AND IT IS FOR PICKING UP PACKAGES AT OUR PARTNER SITES. AND THE UAS KIOSK IS DESIGNED TO REQUIRE NO POWER, NO DATA, AND IF IT WERE TO BE PLACED IN A PARKING SPACE, FOR EXAMPLE, A BOLLARD WOULD BE INSTALLED IN FRONT OF IT. ON THE RIGHT IS A UAS HUB AND THAT'S WHAT IS COMING IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY FOR APPROVAL.
THE PICTURE IS FROM OUR SITE IN MESQUITE.
THE HUB IN ROWLETT WOULD LOOK SIMILAR AND I'LL SHARE THE SITE PLAN IN A SECOND E CAN TALK THROUGH THE DETAILS. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF DOCKS AND A FENCE AROUND THE SITE AS WELL.
>> AND COULD I -- CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PICTURE REAL QUICK? I'M NOTING THAT THERE IS CONCRETE ON THE GROUND THERE.
>> THAT IS CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT.
AND I'LL TALK TO THAT MORE IN A SECOND÷÷SECOND AS TO WHY WE'RE LOOKING FOR GRAVEL AT THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.
SO WHAT THE LAYOUT LOOKS LIKE, WHAT THE MODEL LOOKS LIKE IS AS SHOWN IN BLUE UP THERE, THAT'S THE LOCATION OF THE UAS HUB AND THAT'S WHERE THE AIRCRAFT WILL DOCK, KIND OF THEIR HOME, WHERE THEY CHARGE.
WHEN A CUSTOMER PLACES AN ORDER FROM ONE OF OUR PARTNERS WHO WOULD HAVE A KIOSK INSTALLED AT THEIR SITE, THE AIRCRAFT WOULD LEAVE THE UAS HUB, FLIES STRAIGHT UP TO 300 FEET AND STAYS AT 300 FEET AT ALL TIMES. AND THEN AS IT GOES OVER THE KIOSK, IT WILL LOWER DOWN THE ZIP ON A WINCH, PICK UP THE COVERAGE AND DO THE DELIVERY THEN CHARGE AT THE UAS HUB. THIS IS THE FIRST MODEL WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IN THE METRO THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS. THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE'RE LOOKING FOR THESE EXEMPTIONS HERE.
WE HAVE MODELS THAT SERVE ONE PARTNER.
THIS IS THE FIRST MODEL THAT WILL UNLOCK SERVING SMALL BUSINESSES AND MULTITUDE OF PARTNERS FROM ONE UAS HUB.
WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF REALLY EXCITING PARTNERS IN THE SHOPPING CENTER THAT KEEP ASKING US EVERY DAY WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BE LAUNCHING THIS.
SO, A FEW MORE DETAILS ON THE SITE PLAN.
AS MENTIONED, WE'RE LOOKING TO INSTALL TEN DOUBLED UP TOWERS, THE BLACK STRUCTURES, AROUND THEM IN RED IS SHOWING THE FENCING. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT EIGHT FOOT TALL BLACK WELDED WIRE MESH FENCE THAT WILL PROVIDE SOME SCREENING.
AND IN THE TOP RIGHT- HAND CORNER, WE HAVE SOME GENERATORS SHOWN, AND THEN THERE IS ALSO A SHIPPING CONTAINER ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT-HAND CORNER THAT WILL HOUSE OUR NETWORK EQUIPMENT SO IT CAN STAY COOL AND WILL SERVE AS A BREAK SPOT FOR FULFILLMENT OPERATORS TO GIT ET OUT OF THE HEAT OR THE COLD. AND THEN OUR RPIC STATION, REMOTE PILOT IN COMMAND.
THAT'S ONLY AT OUR LAUNCH, WE'RE EXPECTING THAT.
AND THOSE PILOTS ARE THERE TO WATCH OPERATIONS AND MAKE SURE THAT UNDER OUR CURRENT FAA WAIVER, WE HAVE LINE OF SIGHT OVER THE AIRCRAFT. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE FAA TO GET 135 WHICH WILL UNLOCK BEYOND VISUAL LINE OF SITE AND THEN THAT WILL GO AWAY. WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE EXEMPTION -- TEMPORARY EXEMPTION ON GRAVEL AND LANDSCAPING. THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT THIS IS OUR FIRST KIND OF SITE OF THIS NATURE AS I MENTIONED.
THOUGH WE INSTALLED THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IN OTHER LOCATIONS THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WITH THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS MODEL.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOME FLEXIBILITY AND THERE IS A CHANCE THE EXEMPTION WE WERE ASKING WOULD BE POSSIBLY FOR MAYBE 18 MONTHS, TEMPORARILY,
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AS WE LAUNCH THIS SITE AND AS WE FIGURE OUT WITH OUR PARTNERS WHAT THEIR EXACT NEEDS ARE AND HOW TO BEST SERVE THE COMMUNITY.IF WE ARE LOOKING TO MAKE CHANGES, WE WOULD COME BACK AND LOOK AT MAKING CHANGES AT THAT TIME ANDAND INSTALLING CONCRETE AND LANDSCAPING AT THAT TIME. SO THAT IS -- THOSE ARE THE THREE NEW SLIDES I HAVE. AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. SOUNDS LIKE THERE ARE SOME.
>> I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS THERE.
ESPECIALLY ON THE TEMPORARY GRAVEL AND LANDSCAPING.
WOULD YOU CONSIDER 12 MONTHS VERSUS 18? IT GIVES YOU A YEAR.
>> YEAH, I THINK 18 WAS IDEALLY WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR, BUT I THINK 12 MONTHS IS SOMETHING WE COULD WORK WITH AS WELL.
>> MISS WILLIAMS. I PUNCHED YOU OUT, SORRY. NO, NO.
MISS WILLIAMS. >> GOOD EVENING.
I WENT TO YOUR MESQUITE FACILITY AND THERE WAS LIKE THIS CONTROL TOWER. WHEN I FIRST PULLED UP, I THOUGHT IT WAS A POLICE TOWER, IT WAS WAY UP IN THE AIR AND THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN WHO WAS RUNNING IT. WHERE IS THAT ON THIS PROPOSED SITE PLAN?
>> SO THAT IS THE RPIC TOWER. REMOTE PILOT IN COMMAND.
THAT'S PICTURED ON THE LEFT- HAND SIDE OF THE SITE PLAN WHERE IT SAYS RPIC.
>> OKAY. AND WHY DO YOU HAVE CONCRETE THERE, BUT WANT GRAVEL HERE?
>> GOOD QUESTION. THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT THIS IS OUR FIRST MODEL FOR SERVING SHOPPING CENTERS AND MULTIPLE PARTNERS AND SO IT IS REALLY A NEW SITE FOR US, AND WE'RE FIGURING OUT EXACTLY WHAT MODEL IS GOING TO WORK BEST FOR OUR PARTNERS, SO THERE IS A CHANCE, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT MAYBE WE DON'T NEED TEN TOWERS, MAYBE WE ONLY NEED EIGHT, FOR EXAMPLE, IT IS GOING TO GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO INSTALL OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, HAVE THIS YEAR TO YEAR AND A HALF WITHOUT MAKING A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT, AND THEN COME BACK TO YOU ALL AT THAT TIME AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE -- THE MODEL IS NOW VALIDATED AND WE THINK THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED, AND AT THAT POINT, IT IS REALLY THE INVESTMENT THAT WE NEED TO MAKE INTO THE CONCRETE, SO IT IS REALLY ALLOWING US FOR FLEXIBILITY AS WE LAUNCH
OPERATIONS. >> SO IN THE FUTURE, IF ALL GOES ACCORDING TO PLAN, YOU WILL PUT
>> WHAT ABOUT THE SHIPPING CONTAINER? THIS WHOLE THING IS TEMPORARY TO SEE HOW IT WORKS TOGETHER, WHAT ABOUT THE SHIPPING CONTAINER? IS THAT PERMANENT?
>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. IT IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT IS MORE TEMPORARY IN NATURE. THE REASON WHY WE WANTED TO HAVE IT IS AS I MENTIONED, ONE FOR OUR NETWORK EQUIPMENT TO HAVE SOMEWHERE COOL TO LOCATE IT, WHEN WE GO TO DOING THAT PERMANENT INSTALL WITH CONCRETE, AT THAT TIME WE WOULD LIKELY ALSO RUN KIND OFOF DATA TO ANOTHER SECURE LOCATION WHERE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE COULD BE LOCATED AND IT IS ALSO -- IT ALLOWS US TO HAVE A BREAK ROOM FOR SOME OF OUR FULFILLMENT OPERATORS AS WE'RE TRAINING A LOT OF OUR PARTNERS THERE TOO. ONCE WE'RE WITHIN A YEAR AND A HALF, WE THINK OUR PARTNERS WILL BE TRAINED AND WE LIKELY WON'T NEED THAT SHIPPING CONTAINER ON SITE. AND WE'RE PLANNING ON BRANDING IT, MAKING IT LOOK NICE, WE ALSO WANT IT TO BE SOMEWHERE WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME AND ASK QUESTIONS, SAY WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE, KIND OF ALSO BE A BOOST THAT PEOPLE CAN COME UP TO, AND INQUIRE MORE ABOUT OPERATIONS, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE SEEING AS PART OF THE LAUNCH HERE.
>> NO, IT IS GOING TO BE BRANDED IN OUR COLORS, HAVE SOME KIND OF EXCITING SIGNAGE, MAYBE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING, SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING ON SITE, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
>> YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE LANDSCAPE EXEMPTION, AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS BOX JUST SITTING OUT THERE, SO JUST KIND OF THINKING ABOUT HOW IT'S GOING TO LOOK.
>> DURING THE COUNCIL MEETING WHEN THIS WAS PRESENTED FOR THE ORDINANCE, COUNCIL PERSON SHOOP ASKED QUESTIOS ABOUT PRIVACY. I TOO HAVE THAT CONCERN, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF WHERE YOU'RE ASKING FOR THIS TO BE IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO A PEDIATRIC DENTISTRY.
SO, MY CONCERN HERE IS HOW WOULD -- WHAT TECHNOLOGY DO YOU HAVE IN PLACE AS FAR AS MAKING SURE THAT CHILDREN ARE NOT GOING TO BE IDENTIFIED OR ANY OF THEIR IMAGES POSSIBLY RETAINED FOR OTHER PURPOSES?
>> YEAH, THAT'S A VERY VALID CONCERN. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALWAYS TRY TO ADDRESS WHEN WE PRESENT ON OUR TECHNOLOGY.
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IT IS NOT ONLY A CONCERN OF OUR DELIVERY -- CUSTOMER SITES AND ALSO DELIVERY SITES, DELIVERING TO PEOPLE'S HOMES.AND SO WE WANT TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH THE SYSTEM IN OUR OWN BACKYARDS.
AND ACTUALLY I'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH AND I WANTED TO PRESENT ON THAT FOR SURE BEFORE COUNCIL MEMBER REEVES NEXT WEEK AND HOW IT WORKS IS THAT WE ARE FULLY COMPLIANT WITH THE TEXAS DATA PRIVACY AND SAFETY ACT.
AND THAT HOLDS US ACCOUNTABLE IN TERMS OF HOW WE STORE OUR DATA, WHAT KIND OF DATA WE CAN COLLECT, AND ALL OF THAT NATURE.
SO, WE COMPLY FULLY WITH THAT. IN ADDITION, WE OBVIOUSLY AS A BUSINESS MODEL WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SERVE CUSTOMERS AND WANT THEM TO FEEL COMFORTABLE RECEIVING DELIVERY FROM US, SO HAVING OUR CUSTOMERS TRUST IS REALLY IMPORTANT. AND OUR WHOLE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED FOR DELIVERY. AND SO ANY DATA THAT WE COLLECT IS ONLY SO THAT WE CAN DELIVER SAFELY AND MAKE SURE WE CAN SERVE OUR CUSTOMERS' NEEDS.
>> IS THERE NOTHING AS FAR AS AUTOMATIC BLURRING OF FACES OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE?
>> I CAN JUMP BACK TO -- OOPS -- ONE FORWARD.
THIS RENDERING GIVES AN IDEA OF HOW OUR AIRCRAFT AND OUR ZIP LOOK AT THE WORLD. THEY DON'T LOOK AT IT IN TERMS OF IDENTIFYING HUMANS AS PEOPLE OR THEY REALLY LOOK AT EVERYTHING AS OBJECT AVOIDANCE.
SO WE APPLY INDUSTRY STANDARDS TO BLUR FACES, FOR EXAMPLE, WE DON'T HAVE A LIVE VIDEO FEED, WE HAVE STRICT ACCESS CONTROL TO DATA, ONLY PEOPLE WITH VERY SPECIFIC CLEARANCE CAN ACCESS DATA, AND THEN WE ALSO DON'T IDENTIFY INDIVIDALS OR -- SORRY -- OR READ LICENSE PLATES OR THINGS OF THAT
>> HOW MANY POUNDS CAN BE DELIVERED AT AA TIME?
>> SO THE DELIVERY WILL BE UP TO EIGHT POUNDS.
>> UP TO EIGHT POUNDS, CORRECT,
YES. >> THAT'S A WHAT A BURGER.
>> IT IS LIKE DINNER FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY, LET ME GO BACK, I HAVE A SLIDE THAT SHOWS -- OOPS, ONE FORWARD.
WE HAVE FIT 12 EIGHT- INCH SUBS INSIDE OF IT, 24 DOUGHNUTS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIT INSIDE, TWO MEDIUM- SIZED PIZZAS CUT IN HALF IN SPECIAL BOXES CAN FIT INSIDEINSIDE OF IT.
WE'RE NOT REPLACING THE WEEKLY GROCERY RUN.
IT IS REALLY THERE FOR DINNER, OR PROVIDING QUICK KIND OF TOP OFF ITEMS.
>> OKAY. THE ONLY QUESTIONS I HAVE, COULD YOU BACK UP ONE SLIDE, PLEASE? IS THIS THE SAME FENCING MATERIAL THAT YOU WANT TO INSTALL? OR --
>> YEAH. IT LOOKS RELATIVELY SIMILAR.
THE FENCING MATERIAL THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING IS WELDED WIRE MESH. AND IT IS BLACK AS WELL.
IT IS EIGHT FOOT TALL. SAME HEIGHT AS
THAT. >> MORE LIKE CATTLE FENCING THAT'S MADE OF BLACK.
>> I COULD SHOW SOME RENDERINGS IF HELPFUL.
>> AND THE GENERATORS ARE -- ARE THEY GOING TO BE SETTING ON A PAD OR JUST SITTING ON THE GROUND?
>> THOSE WILL BE SCREENED. WE'RE GOING TO BE PLACING THOSE ON GRAVEL AS WELL. AND, YEAH.
SO THEY WOULD BE PLACED IN THAT TOP RIGHT- HAND CORNER, FENCED INTO THEIR OWN AREA, PLACED ON GRAVEL, AND THEY WOULD BE SCREENED BY THE FENCING.
>> THAT'S TEMPORARY GRAVEL, RIGHT?
>> AND THE GENERATORS ALSO WOULD BE TEMPORARY.
>> NOW, YOU SAID EVENTUALLY THIS WOULD BECOME MORE PERMANENT?
>> AND THAT BOX, THAT SHIPPING CONTAINER WHY GO AWAY, WHERE WOULD ALL YOUR NETWORK EQUIPMENT BE THEN?
>> WE WOULD RUN THE NETWORK EQUIPMENT, PROBABLY HAVE SOME SORT OF SMALL CABINET THAT WOULD BE WEATHER PROOF, SO MUCH SMALLER THAN THE SHIPPING CONTAINER.
AND THAT WE WOULD ALSO HAVE WITHIN THAT FENCED AREA.
SO IT WOULD BE A LOT MORE DISCREET.
>> SO, IN 12 MONTHS, WILL YOU PUT THAT SAME NICE FENCING THAT YOU HAVE IN MESQUITE?
>> SO THE WELDED WIRE MESH FENCING IS ACTUALLY VERY NICE AS WELL.
BUT HAPPY TO DISCUSS -- HAPPY TO SHARE SOME RENDERINGS.
THE GOAL OF THE WELDED WIRE MESH IS THAT IT WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT IS INSTALLED AT MESQUITE.
>> OKAY. DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF IT?
>> NOT ON ME, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY SHARE IT AFTER THE MEETING AND HAPPY TO DISCUSS WITH STAFF AND HAVE THAT FOR CITY COUNCIL AS WELL.
>> OKAY, ONE OTHER QUESTION THEN.
WHEN TALKING AS COMMISSIONER POLLARD ASKED ABOUT THE GRAVEL BEING CONVERTED TO CONCRETE, WHAT ABOUT LANDSCAPING?
>> YEAH, WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD LANDSCAPING AS WELL AROUND THE FENCED AREA OR AS DESIGNATED BY CODE.
>> AND ABOUT 12 MONTHS IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?
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MR. POLLARD?>> LET'S GO BACK TO THIS FENCE FOR A SECOND. IS IT MORE LIKE A CHAIN LINK FENCE, BLACK CHAIN LINK FENCE, VERSUS WELDED WIRE?
>> WELDED WIRE IS MORE LIKE STRAIGHT VERTICAL PIECES OF FENCING, IF YOU WANT. AND IT IS BLACK.
IT IS NICER THAN CHAIN LINKED. DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE, I GUESS, IN TERMS OF WHAT --
>> WELDED WIRE IS PRETTY FLEXIBLE, UNLESS YOU REALLY SPEND THE MONEY AND GET AND IF YOU DO THAT, YOU MIGHT AS WELL GO TO WELDED IRON FENCE. BUT THAT'S MY THOUGHT.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO? OH, WELL -- HOLD ON. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO I WILL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR TO THE PUBLIC.
>> DID YOU PROVIDE A SLIP FOR THE --
>> ON YOUR WAY OUT, FILL ONE OUT AND I'LL GET --
>> MY NAME IS JEFF BURLESON, A RESIDENT ON CYPRUS DRIVE AND I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS AND THE MORE I HEARD THIS DIALECT, MY CONCERNS HAVE GROWN. SO I'M A RESIDENT THERE, AND I'M REALLY WORRIED, WELL, NUMBER ONE, ABOUT THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS OF THE CROSS TRAFFIC.
IS THIS -- MY QUESTION IS, IS THIS ONLY GOING TO BE FOR WALMART OR MULTIPLE BUSINESSES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE USING THIS HUB FOR? IS IT MULTIPLE BUSINESSES?
>> OKAY. IS THIS MULTIPLE BUSINESSES, I APOLOGIZE?
>> FROM HER PRESENTATION, IT IS GOING TO BE MULTIPLE BUSINESSES.
>> MULTIPLE BUSINESSES. I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE CROSS TRAFFIC. THERE IS A PARK, A CHILDREN'S PARK RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE THIS IS GOING TO BE.
WORRIED ABOUT THE CROSS TRAFFIC. AND THE BOTTLENECKING AND THE CROSS TRAFFIC THAT COMES FROM WALMART OR OTHER BUSINESSES, REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
ANOTHER THING, WHEN -- THIS -- I
UNDERSTAND -- >> CAN I INTERRUPT YOU FOR A SECOND. ARE YOU SAYING VEHICULAR CROSS TRAFFIC OR AERIAL VEHICLE --
>> VEHICULAR CROSS TRAFFIC, YES, SIR, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. VEHICULAR CROSS TRAFFIC.
I'M WORRIED ABOUT PEOPLE BRINGING THEIR, YOU KNOW, BOXES OR WHATEVER THEY ORDERED, AND GOING ACROSS THE KENWOOD, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THAT. BUT I'M ESPECIALLY WORRIED NOW AS A HOMEOWNER AND MY PROPERTY VALUES, I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT TO TRY TO BE LENIENT AND TRY TO GET PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEM THE LATITUDE TO BE ABLE TO SEE HOW MANY HUBS THEY WANT TO HAVE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THE GRAVEL, BUT I'M REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THAT. I DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE AN INDUSTRIAL AREA COMING UP TO MY -- COMING UP TO MY HOME, WHERE THERE IS GRAVEL AND THEN MESH FENCE FOR EIGHT FOOT, THAT'S GOING TO LOOK INDUSTRIAL AND THAT REALLY WORRIES ME ON MY PROPERTY VALUES AND OTHERS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. TO ME, THIS IS AN UPSCALE COMMUNITY AND WHEN YOU'RE APPLYING FOR A USE PERMIT, IT SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AN UPSCALE COMMUNITY AND WHY WOULDN'T THEY DO THE SAME FOR US AS THEY WOULD IN MESQUITE.
WE'RE AN UPSCALE COMMUNITY. I'M PROUD OF OUR COMMUNITY, I'M PROUD OF THE WAY IT LOOKS. I DON'T WANT AN EIGHT- FOOT FENCE, MESH FENCE, WITH GRAVEL AND GRAVEL COMING ON TO THE MAIN THOROUGH FARE AND HAVING TO GO AND GET CHIPS IN MY PAINT AND MY VEHICLE AND, YOU KNOW, AND IT IS JUST NOT -- THAT'S JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE IN MY VIEW.
TO ME, THEY NEED TO -- I AM REQUESTING DENIAL OF THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE WHOLE THING.
BUT ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE NOT -- IF THEY'RE WANTING TO TRY TO GET AROUND LANDSCAPING, IT IS ALREADY GOING TO BE AN EYESORE.
I EVEN WOULD ENTERTAIN THE THOUGHT OF WHY COULDN'T WE KEEP THE TRAFFIC, LIKE, ON THE BACK OF WALMART? I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ENOUGH SPACE THERE, BUT THE GRAVEL AND THE -- AND THE FENCE, IT IS JUST NOT -- THAT'S JUST NOT GOOD FOR ROWLETT AND THIS AREA.
SO I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COMMISSION TO DENY THE PERMIT TO --
>> THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP.
>> BUT JUST TO CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT YOU MENTIONED, AS FAR AS VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, NONE IS GENERATED HERE. OKAY.
>> HOW DO THEY GET THE BOXES FROM --
>> THEY GO TO KIOSKS, THE AERIAL VEHICLE ACTUALLY GOES TO
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THE KIOSK, THAT'S WHERE THE MATERIAL GETS PUT INTO AND THEN TAKEN TO -- IT IS DELIVERED.>> IN AND OUT, ALL AERIAL? I JUST REQUEST DENIAL OF --
>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
HE BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT. WHEN I FIRST DROVE IN --
>> ONE MOMENT, PLEASE. MISS WILLIAMS -- ONE MOMENT, PLEASE. NO FURTHER COMMENT? THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. NOW, MISS MISS WILLIAMS,
PLEASE. >> AND I HIT MY BRAKES BECAUSE I COULDN'T BELIEVE WHAT I WAS SEEING.
I HAD NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND I CAN SEE THE CARS GOING DOWN THE STREET AND THOSE LITTLE, LIKE, BEES BUZZING AROUND, YOU KNOW, LANDING INTO THOSE CONES AND I JUST -- IT STOPPED ME RIGHT IN MY TRACKS.
SO HAVE YOU GIVEN CONSIDERATION BECAUSE I'M SURE OTHER CARS SEEING SOMETHING LIKE THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME, YOU KNOW, ARE GOING TO STOP IN THEIR TRACKS AND OBSERVE WHAT THEY'RE SEEING. SO HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PREVENT ACCIDENTS?
>> YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
>> BECAUSE IN MESQUITE, IT IS BACK BEHIND THE WALMART, IT IS NOT LIKE IT IS ON A MAIN ROAD, THE CARS ARE COMING AND GOING. BECAUSE IF I HAD BEEN ON A MAIN ROAD, I MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN INTO AN ACCIDENT BECAUSE IT IS AMAZING WHAT I SAW.
>> MM-HMM. NO, AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR CONCERNS. THOSE ARE VALID, FULLY UNDERSTOOD. I THINK WE REALLY WANT TO BE A VALUED MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PARTNERS WHO ARE SUPER EXCITED TO BE LAUNCHING WITH US IN ROWLETT AND SO, I THINK ONE THING THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT IS, YOU KNOW, REDUCING THE AREA OF THE GRAVEL AND I THINK WITHIN -- IF IT WERE TO BE ALLOWED TEMPORARILY FOR A YEAR, SIMILARLY WE COULD LOOK AT UPGRADING THE FENCE AS WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT. I ALSO WOULD BE HAPPY TO BRING TO COUNCIL SOME RENDERINGS OF MAYBE THE WIRE MESH AND SEE IF, YOU KNOW, IF COUNCIL APPROVES THAT OR NOT. AND THEN I THINK THE OTHER THING I'LL ADD IS ONE THING THAT WE HAVE DONE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS MESQUITE OR NOT, BUT WE ADD SIGNAGE AROUND OUR FENCING, SO YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF THE FENCING BECAUSE WE PLAN ON HAVING SOME SIGNAGE UP THAT WILL EXPLAIN WHAT IS HAPPENING, AND WE'LL WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT SIGNAGE IS APPROVED. BUT THE VISUALS WOULD EXPLAIN THAT DRONE DELIVERIES COMING TO ROWLETT AND GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY BEFORE ANYTHING STARTS TO KIND OF SCAN A QR CODE, GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS HAPPENING.
WE'RE HOPING THAT WOULD ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.
WE ALSO DO A -- IN MESQUITE, WE HAD A PRELAUNCH EVENT WITH MEDIA. WE INVITED A NUMBER OF NEWS OUTLETS TO COME OUT, SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND SHARE ON LOCAL NEWS OUTLETS SO PEOPLE KNOW THAT IT IS COMING AND ARE AWARE OF THE TECHNOLOGY.
>> WE DO HAVE SOME LOCATIONS, WE'RE GOING TO BE LAUNCHING SOON, THAT ARE MORE FRONT OF -- NOT FRONT OF STORE, BUT MORE VISIBLE FROM SOME OF THE ROADS COMING BY. AND SO I THINK IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, IT WILL BE VISIBLE, BUT I THINK, YEAH, WE WILL DEFINITELY HAVE SOME SIGNAGE THAT HELPS CLARIFY WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>> I THINK PEOPLE WILL BE IN LINE AT CHICK-FIL- A AND WATCHING IT, SO, AS THEY'RE WAITING FOR --
>> IT WAS A SIGHT TO SEE, FOR SURE, BUT HE BROUGHT UP A GOOD SAFETY POINT ABOUT IT.
>> YEAH. AND IF ANYTHING WE'RE HOPING TO REDUCE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO RECEIVE SOME OF THE ITEMS MUCH QUICKER AND SO INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO INTO THEIR CAR TO PICK UP THEIR BURRITO OR DINNER OR COFFEE, IT CAN BE DELIVERED VIA ZIP.
>> THEY TOLD ME AT THE MESQUITE PLACE A BIG ORDER, THEY MIGHT SEND FOUR OR FIVE OF THESE DRONES TO YOUR HOUSE.
>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY LARGE ORDER.
BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN DELIVER AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IN EACH ZIP.
>> SO IS THERE A WAY IT COULD BE BACK BEHIND THE WALMART? I DIDN'T GO BACK BEHIND OUR WALMART.
>> SO WE -- THIS LOCATION WAS STRATEGICALLY BECAUSE OF THE ABILITY TO SERVE OUR PARTNERS IN THE COMMERCIAL AREA BECAUSE WALMART IS NOT GOING TO BE SERVED BY THIS HUB AT THIS TIME.
IT IS DESIGNED TO SERVE LOCAL BUSINESSES, SMALLER BUSINESSES, AND SO THAT'S WHY IT IS LOCATED HERE. WE ALSO WANTED TO MAINTAIN THAT 500 FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL.
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>> AND CAN I JUST CLARIFY, SO, AS PART OF THEIR TEXT, THEY D AS ACCESSORY USE AND PRIMARY USE.
BEHIND WALMART WOULD BE ACCESSORY USE.
THIS PROPOSAL IS BEFORE YOU AS A PRIMARY USE ON THIS LOT.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? AGAIN? THANK YOU.
WELL, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND SEND A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR AN UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEM HUB AT THE PROPERTY OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL C- 2 LOCATED AT KENWOOD AND NORTH OF LAKEVIEW PARKWAY CONSISTING OF 2. 85 ACRE TRACT DESCRIBED A PORTION OF LOT 6RA, LOT A, AMENDING REPLATS OF LUKE'S LANDING 5RA AND 6RA BLOCK A CITY OF ROWLETT, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS, WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS -- ONE, THAT AT THE END OF 12 MONTHS, FROM THE DATE THE PROJECT IS OPENED,THAT --
>> SORRY, TO CLARIFY FROM THE DATE IT IS APPROVED BY COUNCIL OR THE DATE THAT BUILDING PERMITS ARE APPROVED, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE
CLEAR. >> ACTUALLY FROM THE DATE THAT THEY INSTALL AND PUT IN THE --
>> YOU WANT TO DO IT FROM WHEN THE CO IS APPROVED?
THE ONE- YEAR, 12- MONTH MARK, THEY MUST THEN ADD THE LANDSCAPING AS REQUIRED BY THE CITY, LANDSCAPING ORDINANCE, TWO, THEY MUST REPLACE THE GRAVEL WITH CONCRETE, PER CITY REGULATIONS, AND, THREE, THAT THE FENCE ING, ONE, THE TEMPORARY FENCING IS OF -- OF BLACK CHAIN LINK OR EIGHT FEET AND IT IS REPLACED WITH A PERMANENT IRON FENCING AT THE END OF 12 MONTHS AS WELL.
>> SO YOU'RE SAYING REPLACE THE FENCING WITH WROUGHT IRON, BLACK WROUGHT IRON?
>> OKAY. AND -- HOW ABOUT THE BOX?
>> THE TEMPORARY CONTAINER BOX BE REPLACED WITH A PERMANENT STRUCTURE AS ACCEPTABLE BY THE CITY.
>> I DON'T THINK -- DON'T LOOK AT ME LIKE THAT.
OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THE SUP AS PRESENTED WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, ONE, AT THE END OF 12 MONTHS FROM THE ISSUE OF CO , WE ADD LANDSCAPING, PER THE ROWLETT DEVELOPMENT CODE, REPLACE THE GRAVEL AREA WITH CONCRETE, THREE, REPLACE THE FENCING WITH WROUGHT IRON, BLACK WROUGHT IRON, AND, FOUR, THE TEMPORARY CONTAINER BE REPLACED WITH A PERMANENT STRUCTURE APPROVED BY THE CITY.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT? MISS WILSON?
>> THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
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>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO FORWARD THE APPLICANT AND THE PUBLIC AND THE INDIVIDUAL THAT SPOKE, AND THE REASON WHY THE MOTION WAS AS IT IS, THIS IS THE FIRST TO MY KNOWLEDGE PRODUCT, IF YOU WILL, OF ITS KIND IN THIS CITY.
SO, I UNDERSTAND THEIR WANTING THE TEMPORARY BECAUSE IT IS SO NEW THAT THEIR EXPERIENCE MAY BE AT THE END OF 12 MONTHS WE CAN'T AFFORD TO SHUT IT DOWN.
OR, THAT IT IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEY NEED AND THEY PUT IN THE PERMANENT, OR HOPEFULLY, THE GREATEST THING, IT IS ENOUGH TO EXPAND. AND THEN IT BECOMES PERMANENT IN NATURE. BUT I WANT TO GIVE THEM THAT 12 MONTHS TO FIND THAT OUT RATHER THAN SPENDING IT AND THEN WE HAVE A CONCRETE EYESORE THAT IS LEFT IF IT DOESN'T WORK OUT. SO I'M WILLING TO GIVE THEM THAT. BUT I DO WANT THE APPLICANT TO AT THE END OF 12 MONTHS FROM THE TIME THAT THEY GEAR UP TO KNOW, OKAY, THIS IS WORKING, OR WHATEVER, AND PUT IN THE PERMANENT STUFF.
THE WELDED WIRE, I'M SORRY, I -- WITHOUT SEEING WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, THE WELDED WIRE THAT IS IN MY MIND IS PRETTY FLEXIBLE AND I CAN TAKE MY HANDS AND SQUEEZE MOST OF IT AND BEND IT.
I THINK A CHAIN LINK IS MUCH MORE HARD FOR SECURITY TO CLIP OR GO THROUGH OR WHATEVER, AND THAT'S THE -- YOUR SECURITY PART. AND IT IS ALSO -- CAN BE EASILY TAKEN DOWN TO PUT UP THE PERMANENT.
FOR THE PUBLIC, I UNDERSTAND YOUR PLIGHT.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT. AND THERE IS A BALANCE HERE.
THAT HAS BEEN COMMERCIAL ZONED FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.
AND I DON'T KNOW, QUITE HONESTLY, IF IT PREDATES OR POSTDATES WHEN THE HOUSES OVER THERE WERE BUILT.
BUT IT WAS CLOSE PROXIMITY THAT ALL THAT WAS COMMERCIAL. SO, WHOEVER HAS BOUGHT IN THERE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN, COULD HAVE KNOWN THAT SOME DAY COMMERCIAL MAYBE IS GOING TO BE THERE.
I THINK THE ONLY OTHER PLACE TO PUT THIS IS INDUSTRIAL, BUT WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO IS NOT AN INDUSTRIAL DEAL. IT IS A RETAIL -- I CAN SEE WHAT A BURGER WAS MENTIONED, MAYBE WHAT A BURGER, CHICK-FIL-A, WENDY'S, ALL THOSE IN THERE TO USE THIS. THAT IS IN THE AREA OF WHERE IT IS. AND I JUST -- IT IS COMMERCIAL.
AND HAS A RIGHT TO BE COMMERCIAL.
>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, WE'LL CALL THE VOTE.
AND THAT PASSES 7-0. AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.