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[1. CALL TO ORDER ]

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FOR TUESDAY, JULY 22, 2025, AS AUTHORIZED IN THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE THIS MEETING MAY BE CONVENED INTO CLOSED THEIR INTERCESSION WITH PURPOSES OF SEEKING LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY ON ANY AGENDA ITEM. THE CITY OF ROWLETT RESERVES RIGHT TO RECONVENE , RECESS, REALIGN OR CALL TO EXECUTIVE SESSION OR ORDER BUSINESS OF ANY TIME PRIOR TO ADJOURNMENT. FOR PUBLIC INPUT IF YOU'RE UNABLE TO ATTEND IN PERSON WE COMPLETE CITIZEN INPUT FORM ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE BY 3:30 THE DAY OF THE MEETING. ALL FORMS WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING. FOR IN-PERSON COMMENTS, REGISTRATION FORMS AND INSTRUCTIONS ARE AVAILABLE INSIDE THE DOORS OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 7:03 WE HAVE A QUORUM SO WE WILL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA OF THE CITIZENS INPUT, AT THIS TIME THREE-MINUTE COMMENT WILL BE TAKEN FROM THE AUDIENCE ON ANY TOPIC. NO ACTION CAN BE TAKEN TO THE COMMISSION DURING CITIZENS INPUT. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND

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ZONING COMMISSION? SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE THE CITIZENS INPUT, NEXT CONSENT AGENDA.

THE FOLLOWING MAY BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION. A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER OR A CITIZEN MAY REQUEST ITEMS BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. THE ONLY ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IS CONSIDER APPROVING MINUTES FOR JUNE 24, 2025 AND JULY 8, FOR JUNE 24, 2025 AND JULY 8, 2025 REGULAR MEETINGS. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO PULL EITHER OF THOSE? SEEING NONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MISS

WILLIAMS? >> I MAKE MOTION TO APPROVE THE

MINUTES OF JUNE 24 >> I MAKE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF JUNE 24, 2025 AND JULY 8, 2025 .

>> MR. POLLARD. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE AND SECOND BY MR. POLLARD. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION, SEEING NONE, CALL THE VOTE. AND THAT PASSES 5-0. WITH TWO ABSTENTIONS.

[4A. Conduct a public hearing and make a recommendation to the City Council regarding a request by Rusdien Samie, property owner, regarding a Special Use Permit (SUP) to allow for an enclosed accessory structure with an area greater than 500 square feet on a property zoned Single Family (SF-10), with a SUP for an accessory structure. The approximately 0.86-acre lot is situated northwest of the intersection of Hickox and Toler Road. Addressed as 2906 Toler Drive, also described as Lot 5, Block 3, Chandler Park 2, a Replat of Hickox Road Estates no.2 in the City of Rowlett, Dallas County, Texas. ]

MOVING ON TO INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. FIRST ITEM ON THE INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. PUBLIC HEARING COMMENTS MAY BE MADE IN PERSON AND WILL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES, REGISTRATION FORMS ARE AVAILABLE INSIDE THE DOORS OF COUNCIL CHAMBERS, FIRST ITEM IS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REQUEST BY RUSDIEN SAMIE, PROPERTY OWNER, REGARDING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR AN ENCLOSED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WITH AN AREA GREATER THAN 500 SQUARE FEET ON A PROPERTY ZONED SINGLE FAMILY (SF-10), WITH A SUP FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. THE APPROXIMATELY 0.86-ACRE LOT IS SITUATED NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF HICKOX AND TOLER ROAD. ADDRESSED AS 2906 TOLER DRIVE, ALSO DESCRIBED AS LOT 5, BLOCK 3, CHANDLER PARK 2, A REPLAT OF HICKOX ROAD ESTATES NO.2 IN THE CITY OF ROWLETT, DALLAS COUNTY,

TEXAS. >> GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, PLANNER PRESENTING THIS ITEM TONIGHT. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE OVER 500 SQUARE FEET SPECIFICALLY LOCATED AT 2906 DRIVE, THE ZONE SF 10 AND THE LOT IS .8 ACRES. SOME DISCRETION ON WHAT IS ON THE SITE TODAY WE HAD THE NEW ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WHICH THERE ARE REQUESTING SEP, FOR TONIGHT WHICH IS ALREADY BUILT AT 1400 SQUARE FEET AND THERE IS EXISTING STRUCTURES LOOKING AT A TWO-STORY PRIMARY RESIDENCE THAT INCLUDES A GARAGE TOTALING 3500 SQUARE FEET. THERE IS ALSO A CARPORT WHICH HAS A SEP AT 800 SQUARE FEET AND THEY SHED AT 96 SQUARE FEET. I WON'T GO INTO DETAIL IN REGARDS TO ANY OF THE IMPERVIOUS SERVICES BUT YOU'LL SEE THERE IS AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY, CONCRETE WALKWAY AND NEW DRIVER EXTENSION THAT LEADS TO THE NEW STRUCTURE. AND OTHER IMPERVIOUS SURFACES INCLUDING CONCRETE SLABS, HOT TUB, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT THERE IS A SET SYSTEM THAT BACKS ONTO THE HOUSE NEXT TO THE CARPORT. NOW, AS YOU HAVE HEARD ME SAY BEFORE, THERE ARE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS WHEN IT

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COMES TO ACCESSORY STRUCTURES SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THE LOT COVERAGE, HEIGHT AND SETBACK REQUIREMENTS. IN THIS CASE THE DISTRICT IS SF 10 WHICH ALLOWS 45% LOT COVERAGE, OR 35% OF THE REAR YARD WHICHEVER IS LESS. IN THIS CASE 35% IS THE LESSER OF BOTH STANDARDS AT 9147 SQUARE FEET. WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS WITHIN THE REAR BACKYARD IS STILL WITHIN THAT THRESHOLD OF 14% WHICH IS 3663 SQUARE FEET. WHEN IT COMES TO THE HEIGHT, THE HEIGHT OF THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS 15 FEET, THE PRIMARY IS 23 FEET ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT. LOOKING AT SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT THE SIDE AND THE REAR IN THIS CASE WE HAVE ADDED ADDITIONAL SETBACKS SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE THE STRUCTURE IS IN PROXIMITY TO EVERYTHING AROUND IT. SO IT IS ABOUT 131 FEET FROM THE REAR ROT LINE, 12 FEET FROM THE SIDE LOT LINE, 166 FEET FROM THE FRONT FACING THE ROAD, 59 FEET FROM THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE, NINE FEET FROM THE CARPORT AND 49 FROM THE SEPTIC SYSTEM. ACCESSORY STRUCTURES ARE INCIDENTAL TO PRIMARY YEARS IN THIS CASE THE APPLICANT IS USING FOR STORAGE OF HIS COLLECTOR VEHICLES AND FOR PERSONAL , FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE PERSONAL VEHICLES AND YARD EQUIPMENT. SO IT IS CLEARLY INCIDENTAL TO PRIMARY USE WHICH IS HIS HOME. I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME PICTURES PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT TO GIVE CONTEXT ON WHAT'S GOING ON, ON SITE, HE DID BUILD THE STRUCTURE BUILDING SAFETY HAS NOT HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE STRUCTURE IS BUILT IN CONFORMANCE TO STANDARDS AND IN CASE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO THE BUILDING , BUT IN RELATION TO WHAT HE IS ASKING IS SEP FOR THE STRUCTURE OVER 500 SQUARE FEET AND AS YOU CAN SEE THERE IS THE ADDITIONAL DRIVEWAY THAT HE HAS CONSTRUCTED. TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO HIS NEW ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. WE DID SEND PUBLIC NOTICES, WE RECEIVED ONE IN FAVOR WITHIN 200 ONE IN FAVOR WITHIN 201 IN OPPOSITION AND TWO IN FAVOR WITHIN THE 500 BUFFER. WHEN CONSIDERING THIS SEP WE ARE SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT THE APPROVAL OF STRUCTURE OVER 500 SQUARE FEET, THIS HAS TO MEET STANDARDS FOR FIRE AND BUILDING SAFETY SO KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, APPROVAL OF CONDITIONS OR DENYING THE REQUEST. AND THAT IS THE END OF

MY PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MR. HERNANDEZ.

>> MY ONLY QUESTION. DID I READ CORRECTLY THAT THE DRIVEWAY THE ACTUAL CARPORT FROM THE ROAD INTO THE REAR DOES NOT CONFORM? CORRECT? THE DRIVEWAY ITSELF, THE CARPORT.

>> THE NEW DRIVER? >> THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY FROM

THE ROAD INTO HIS BACKYARD. >> THAT CONFORMS. SO, THE EXTENSION OF THE DRIVEWAY TO ALLOW HIM TO COME INTO HIS NEW GARAGE , THAT IS ABOUT NINE FEET SO THE STANDARDS FOR US NEEDS TO MEET AT LEAST 10 FEET JUST PER OUR ROWLETT DEVELOPMENT CODE.

>> THANK YOU. >> MISS WILLIAMS.

>> WAS THE PERMIT OBTAINED TO BUILD THE BUILDING?

>> NO, NOT YET. >> AND THEN I SEE THE DRIVEWAY IS A FOOT SHORT FROM WHAT IS REQUIRED?

>> YES. IT IS ALSO FACING , IF YOU WERE TO TAKE A LOOK .

>> THE STRUCTURE DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS REGARDING THE MINIMUM SPACING BETWEEN THE

BUILDINGS. >> SO , EXACTLY, SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT, THE BUILDING AND FIRE WHEN REVIEWING THIS PROJECT, THAT SOMETHING THEY WILL CALL OUT AND HE WILL HAVE TO BRING THAT INTO CONFORMANCE. WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT TODAY IS JUST APPROVING FOR HIM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A BUILDING THAT'S OVER 500 SQUARE FEET NOT NECESSARILY IF IT'S CONFORMING WITH THE BUILDING AND FIRE CODE, THAT WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL STEP HE WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH.

>> SO , HAS A PERMIT BEING ACQUIRED NOW?

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>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS HE IS WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

RIGHT MICHAEL? >> MICHAEL KING, SENIOR PLANNER.

HISTORY OF THE PROJECT IS . >> MICHAEL COULD YOU LEAN INTO

THE MICROPHONE? >> SORRY ABOUT THAT. THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT, THE SLAB WAS POURED FOR STORAGE. AND HE RECEIVED A PERMIT FOR THAT AND THEN HE WENT AHEAD AND BUILT THE BUILDING WITHOUT A PERMIT. THE BUILDING , AS SUBMITTED HE WAS CITED , FOR NOT HAVING A BUILDING PERMIT. HE WENT AHEAD AND APPLY FOR A BUILDING PERMIT WHERE HE LEARNED HE NEEDED TO GET SEP BEFORE HE COULD GET THE BUILDING FOR PERMIT. THE BUILDING AS BUILT DOES NOT CONFORM TO THE PLANTS HE SUBMITTED. SO THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED LATER ON.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> WHAT ABOUT THE CARPORT?

>> THE CARPORT IS A SEPARATE STRUCTURE THAT WAS ALREADY

BUILT. >> THAT CARPORT RECEIVED A SEP BACK A FEW YEARS AGO SO THE CARPORT HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR A

WHILE. >> OKAY. YOU SAY WENT AHEAD AND GOT A PERMIT AND POURED THE SLAB , BUT FROM OUR UNDERSTANDING THE SLAB , DID HE NOT GET A FOUR SURVEY FOR THE SLAB BECAUSE

IT'S NOT 10 FEET? >> HE DID NOT GET A FORM SURVEY, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT RELIED ON THE PLANS SUBMITTED SAYING WHAT THE DISTANCE WAS TO THE PROPERTY LINE. BUT, FOR A SLAB LIKE PUTTING IN A DRIVEWAY OR PUTTING IN A SLAB TO PARK CARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD NOT REQUIRE FORM SURVEY BUT WHEN YOU BUILD A STRUCTURE YOU HAVE TO DO A FORM SURVEY SO THIS IS A STEP THAT WAS MISSED AND NOT TAKING CARE OF.

>> SO HOW DO WE KNOW THE PROPER CONSTRUCTION OF THE SLAB AS FAR

AS REINFORCEMENT OR FOOTERS? >> THE APPLICANT WHEN HE BUILT THE SLAB DID NOT CALL IN FOR PROPER INSPECTIONS. SO WE RELIED ON PHOTOGRAPHS GOING FROM THE PHOTOGRAPHS AND THE SITE INSPECTION BY THE SENIOR INSPECTOR, THE SLAB DOES NOT CONFORM TO THE ENGINEERING DESIGN PLANS FOR THE STRUCTURE ITSELF. SO WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT ON THE BUILDING PERMIT SITE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

>> YES. >> YOU ARE LATE. MR. POLLARD.

>> SO , MICHAEL, HOW ARE YOU, WHAT HAPPENS IF THE CONCRETE IS NOT AS , IT IS THERE, BUT HOW ARE YOU GOING TO CORRECT THAT?

>> IT HASN'T BEEN FULLY LAID OUT. I'M STILL WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM THE ENGINEER THAT DESIGNED THE BUILDING. BUT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO REMEDY THE SITUATION WHICH IN MOST CASES IS GOING TO MEAN RECONSTRUCTING PART OF THE SLAB , MAKING MODIFICATIONS, HAVING ENGINEER CERTIFIED AS SAFE. AND PUTTING THE BUILDING BACK ONTO THAT SPOT WE HAVE TO TEAR THE BUILDING DOWN IN ORDER TO FIX THE SLAB AND PUT THE BUILDING BACK UP.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IS THE APPLICANT HERE?

DOES HE HAVE A PRESENTATION? >>

>> IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE STEP FORWARD TO THE MICROPHONE. STATE

YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE. >> MY NAME IS OF THE PROPERTY. JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT THE FOUNDATION WAS INSPECTED BEFORE WE POUR THE CONCRETE.

>> WHO WAS IT INSPECTED BY? >> I DON'T HAVE THE NAME. I DO HAVE A RECORD OF THAT. IT WAS INSPECTED IN TERMS OF DEPTH AND EVERYTHING BEFORE WE POURED. THE PERMIT I SUBMITTED INDICATED THE INTENTION WAS TO BUILD THE BUILDING ON IT AND UNFORTUNATELY I SUBMITTED THE PERMIT IN SUCH A WAY THAT I SAID THE BUILDING WOULD BE BUILT ONTO THIS SIZE SLAB . I CONTACTED WHEN THEY CAME OUT TO INSPECT THE INITIAL FOUNDATION. I PHONED IN AND THEY MENTIONED TO ME THERE ARE TWO INSPECTIONS, YOU COMPLETED ONE

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AND YOU STILL HAVE THE FINAL INSPECTION AND I SAID THE SLAB IS NOW AND HE SAID ACCORDING TO THE PERMIT YOU HAVE YOUR FINAL INSPECTION GO AHEAD AND UNFORTUNATELY I TOOK THAT AS GO AHEAD AND BUILD. SO WHEN THE STRUCTURE WAS BUILT IN INSPECTOR CAME OUT HE SAID I'M SUPPOSED TO INSPECT ONLY THE CONCRETE SLAB BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN THE FOUNDATION. I'M ONLY CHECKING THE SLAB SO I WILL PUT IT ON HOLD AND THEN I APPLY FOR THE PERMIT FOR THE BUILDING STRUCTURE FOR WHICH MICHAEL IS NOW INVOLVED WITH. AS PART OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT TO HAVE TAKEN PHOTOS FROM BEFORE THEY STARTED ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE DEPTH AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND I HAVE DIRECTIONS FROM THE ACTUALLY BUILT AS TO WHAT THE SPECIFICATIONS ARE AND THEY WENT A LITTLE BIT DEEPER THAN I EXPECTED

>> SO DID YOU HAVE A GENERAL CONTRACTOR INVOLVED?

>> YES, JUST FOR THE FOUNDATION. FOR THE FOUNDATION A GENERAL CONTRACTOR CAME OUT.

>> WHEN I WAS LOOKING TO BUILDING CAN I DO THIS MYSELF HE SAID YOU PROBABLY COULD. I HAVE A CEMENT MIXER BUT YOU MAY WANT TO GIVE SOMEBODY AND HE RECOMMENDED SOMEBODY. SO WE DO

HAVE A CONTRACTOR. >> MISS WILLIAMS. MISS WILLIAMS.

>> HOW ARE YOU GOING TO CORRECT THE 10 FOOT DISTANCE

REQUIREMENT? >> I LOOKED AT THAT AND I HAVE ENOUGH DISTANCE FROM THE END OF THE BOUNDARY AND IT WAS INTENDING ON PUTTING A DRAIN SYSTEM BECAUSE THE RAIN COMES DOWN AND COMES FAR UP. I WOULD PUT THAT ALONG THE GAP SO IT WILL BE THE DRIVEWAY WITH A GAP FOR THE DRAINAGE AND THEN THE TWO FOOT. SO WHAT WILL ACTUALLY COME AND RUN THAT WAY BECAUSE

IT'S LAYING DOWN. >> CORRECT THE DRIVEWAY TO THE

REQUIRED WIDTH? >> YES. TO MAKE THE REQUIRED WIDTH. THE OTHER THING I MENTIONED FROM MY MAIN DRIVEWAY COMING TO THE BUILDING THERE IS A ENTRY DOOR. MY INITIAL IDEA WAS TO COME STRAIGHT TO THE DRIVEWAY INTO THE BUILDING.

I CAN COME STRAIGHT THROUGH MY DRIVEWAY INTO THE BUILDING.

WITHOUT USING THE SITE. >> I'M CONFUSED. WHAT IS THE

NINE FOOT WIDE DRIVEWAY? >> THE ONE WHERE THE MAIN DOORS

ARE. >> SIR CAN YOU TALK INTO THE

MICROPHONE? >> SORRY IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUILDING YOUR THE THREE DOORS THAT IS THE NINE FOOT DRIVEWAY.

PICTURE WITH A SMALL DOOR WITH THE DRIVEWAY. OKAY SO YOU LOOK AT THE MAIN BUILDING IN THE CARPORT THERE IS A DOOR IN BETWEEN THOSE STRUCTURES, 10 FOOT DOOR, 10 BY EIGHT FOOT DOOR OR 10 BY 10 THAT CAN GO THROUGH. SO I CAN DRIVE FROM THE DRIVEWAY STRAIGHT THROUGH INTO THE BUILDING. WITHOUT USING THE

SITE. >> SO ARE YOU GOING TO INCREASE

THE DRIVEWAY ANOTHER FOOT? >> YES IT NEEDS TO BE A FOOT OR TWO I WILL MAKE IT BEFORE MICHAEL OR WHOEVER COMES OUT.

>> WHY DIDN'T YOU GET PERMITS FOR THE BUILDING?

>> I HAD A PERMIT FOR THE SLAB AND ON THE SLAB PERMIT IT WAS MENTIONED, I JUST CANNOT DECIDE IF I WAS GOING WOOD OR METAL SO I GOT THE PERMIT FOR THE SLAB, I HAVE THE INSPECTOR COME OUT.

WHEN I APPLY FOR THE PERMIT FOR THE SLAB I PUT DOWN THE REQUIREMENT TWO INSPECTIONS. SO WHEN THE SLAB WAS PREPARED BEFORE GOING THE INSPECTOR CAME OUT SO TO ME THAT WAS INSPECTION NUMBER ONE. I HAD THE SLAB THROWN TWO OR THREE WEEKS LATER I CONTACTED THE CITY AND SAID THE SLAB IS READY TO NEED ANOTHER INSPECTION? THEN I WAS TOLD MY NEXT INSPECTION IS FINAL AND I SAID I AM PUTTING UP A METAL STRUCTURE AND IT SAID YOU COULD BUILD A MIDDLE STRUCTURE SO THAT'S THE FINAL INSPECTION AND I SAID TO NEED TO HAVE INSPECTION FOR THE SLAB? YOU ARE ALREADY UNDER FINAL INSPECTION AND THAT CONFUSED ME ALSO. I HAVE TO GET THE BUILDING UP SO I PUT THE BUILDING UP AND THE INSPECTOR CAME OUT AND SAID MY FINAL INSPECTION IS WHEN THE SLAB IS THROWN , THAT'S WHEN I FILLED IN THE PERMIT AND MENTIONED ON THE PERMIT I WENT AHEAD AND BUILT THE STRUCTURE ACCORDING TO THE DESIGN SPECIFICATIONS OF THE SLAB.

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>> SO NOW YOU ARE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE CITY

TO CORRECT THIS >> I TOLD THE INSPECTOR WHEN HE SAID STOP I STOPPED EVERYTHING, WE TOOK PHOTOS AND I SAID I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING. I DO NOT HAVE GARAGE DOORS FOR MONTHS NOW.

>> OKAY THANK YOU. >> WAIT A MINUTE , COME BACK HERE PLEASE. OKAY SO I AM NOW CONFUSED. SO IN THE TOP AS I LOOK AT THE PICTURE, THE TOP LEFT IS THE SIDE OF YOUR GARAGE.

ACCESSORY BUILDING CORRECT? IT'S GOT THREE OVERHEAD DOORS.

>> NO DOORS AT THE MOMENT. >> OKAY THREE HOLES AND FOUR DOORS. SO, YOU INTEND TO ENTER INTO WHERE THE CUTS ARE FOR THE DOORS TO PUT YOUR VEHICLES AND WHATEVER RIGHT?

>> EITHER OR THE DOOR ON THE OTHER SIDE BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS THE EASY WAYS TO COME BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS BECAUSE IT IS STRAIGHT. IN THE END THE OPTION WOULD BE TO USE THE DRIVEWAY.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO IF YOU ARE GOING IN TYPICAL I WILL PUT IT THIS WAY TYPICAL PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE YOUR OVERHEAD DOORS AND YOU'VE GOT THREE SLOTS , WHERE'S THE CONCRETE GOING TO BE AND WHERE IS THE DRIVEWAY SO YOU'RE DRIVING AND DRIVE INTO

YOUR BUILDING? >> WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING, THE FIRST OPENING? IF I WANT TO COME TO THE FIRST OPENING. I CAN COME FROM, I HAVE PHOTOS. I CAN COME IN FROM MY MAIN DRIVEWAY. SO I WILL BE COMING IN AND I CAN TURN ONTO THE DRIVEWAY HERE IN FRONT OF THE DOORS AND I CAN TURN INTO THE BUILDING.

>> OKAY SO HOW DO YOU ACCESS THE OTHER TWO?

>> MR. POLLARD LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN TO MY RIGHT WHAT IS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE BLUE IS WHAT HE IS PROPOSING AS HIS NEW DRIVEWAY AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

>> THE ORANGE? >> WHEN YOU ARE ENTERING HIS PROPERTY, HE IS GOING THROUGH THE CARPORT INTO THAT DRIVEWAY AND COME INTO THE STRUCTURE. SO THE LINE IS JUST SHOWING YOU

KIND OF THE ACCESS. >> DUE TO THE WIDTH?

>> NINE FEET NOW BUT THIS IS WHAT WE ARE SAYING STANDARD

PROCEDURE IS 10 FEET. >> OKAY. WAIT A MINUTE. I'M STILL CONFUSED. UNDERSTAND HE HAS A DOOR ON THE END RIGHT WHERE THE CARPORT IS AND HE CAN DRIVE TO THE CARPORT, RAISE THE DOOR AND COME IN THROUGH THE NEW BUILDING AND THEN IT IS A LONG WAY DOWN TO THE END. WHERE TYPICALLY OR NARROWLY YOU WOULD COME AROUND AND ENTER ONE OF THOSE THREE, WHERE THERE IS NO

DRIVEWAY. >> THERE IS A DRIVEWAY.

>> YOUR CONSIDERING THAT IS THE DRIVEWAY CONCRETE FROM THE BUILDING STICKING OUT INTO THE YARD?

>> THAT IS THE NINE FOOT EXTENDED BY A FOOT OR TWO.

>> IT GIVES YOU THE RADIUS TO TURN IN AND BACK OUT?

>> YES I WAS ABLE TO TURN INTO THE AREA. KEEPING IN MIND 17 FOOT DOORS SO THAT'S ENOUGH TO PULL IN. IF HE NEEDS TO BE EXTENDING FOR PERMIT PURPOSES FOR 10 YEARS I WILL EXTEND

BEFORE THE NEXT EXTENSION. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU, SIR. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING SO I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO ADDRESS US? DID YOU FILL OUT A CARD? HANDED TO MISS BRITNEY.

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>> WE HAVE CARY EATON. >> CARY EATON, TOLER WROTE 25 YEARS. I DID NOT FILL OUT A FORM EITHER DID MY NEIGHBOR BECAUSE WE WERE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT THE REQUEST WAS FOR AND IT'S HARD TO SAY IF WE ARE IN FAVOR OR OPPOSING WHEN THERE ARE QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED. I HAVE BEEN SITTING HERE LISTENING TO THIS AND I'M STILL CONFUSED AS TO WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE STREET. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS WAS BUILT WITHOUT AN ACTUAL PERMIT FIRST LIKE THE REST OF US HAVE DONE. WHAT IS GOING TO BE STORED IN THE BUILDING? HOW MANY VEHICLES? I DON'T SEE ANYONE I DRIVE MY, THEY ARE IN THE DRIVEWAY AND WHAT KIND OF MAINTENANCE IS GOING TO BE OUT OF THIS BUILDING THAT'S THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE. I AM OPPOSED TO IT AFTER WHAT I HAVE HEARD SO FAR AND SO IS MY NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR. CAN WE PUT THAT ON THE RECORD THERE ARE TWO IN OPPOSITION NOW THAT I HEARD SOME INFORMATION IN THERE IS NO CLARIFICATION. I'M STILL CONFUSED AS TO WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A BUILDING THAT HAS BEEN ILLEGALLY BUILT IF I AM UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY. ISN'T THAT KIND OF BACKWARDS TO HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE? THAT SETS A PRECEDENT FOR THE REST OF US NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE BEEN THERE FOR THE 10 PLUS YEARS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW CITY POLICY ROSE.

>> IF YOU NOTICE I'M NOT ANSWERING AND I WON'T. YOU TALK

TO ME. >> ARE THESE ANSWERS WE CAN GET?

>> JUST GIVE YOUR OPINION. >> I AM OPPOSED AND MY NEXT-DOOR

NEIGHBOR. >> SHE CAN FILL OUT A FORM AND

GET ON RECORD. THANK YOU. >> OKAY JANINE WHEN.

>> FULL AND COMPLETE AND EVENT WEAPON MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY OVER 50 YEARS. I LIVE AT 2910 TOLER ROAD NEXT TO SAMMY. HE HAS BEEN THERE ALMOST 2 YEARS NOW. HE CAME TO LET ME GET THIS HIGHER. HE CAME INTO THE STRUCTURE FROM THE PREVIOUS RESIDENTS THAT LEFT IT IN PRETTY MUCH DISMAY AND HE HAS DONE A GOOD JOB TRYING TO BRING IT UP TO CODE AND STANDARD, I CANNOT SPEAK AS TO WHY CERTAIN THINGS WERE NOT WORK THE WAY THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO COME I KNOW HE VERY MUCH WANTS TO DO IT PROPERLY AND HE HAS DONE A BEAUTIFUL JOB WITH WHAT HE HAS DONE AND AS HIS NEIGHBOR WE ARE VERY PLEASED WITH THE UPGRADES AND THE WAY THINGS ARE NOW, IT LOOKS LIKE A JUNKYARD BEFORE NOTES LOOKING MUCH MORE LIKE A NICE RESIDENTS AND IS SUPPOSED TO BE BRINGING DOWN A DELOREAN AND MY HUSBAND IS LOOKING FORWARD TO SPENDING TIME WITH HIM OVER THERE AND REBUILDING SOME OF THE CARS AND HAVING FUN NEIGHBOR WISE, HE IS A PILLAR TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IF SOMEBODY IS NOT FEELING WELL HE COMES AND MOST OF YARD, WHEN THE POWER IS OUT THE CHECKS ON ALL OF US TO MAKE SURE WE ARE SAFE, WONDERFUL TO HAVE AND I HOPE YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. FATHER SAID HE WOULD BE HAPPY TO BE HERE IF WE NEEDED HIM IN HIS OLD AGE AND I TOLD HIM HE DID NOT NEED TO BE HERE BUT IF WE NEED TO BRING HIM FORWARD WE

COULD. >> THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? I WILL TAKE THAT AS A YES.

>>

MICROPHONE DOWN. >> WE HAVE LIVED IN ROWLETT SINCE 1993. SO WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES, WE LOVE IT HERE BUT I DO THINK THAT OUR STREET SHOULD BE A BEAUTIFUL STREET. I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD TAKE PRIDE IN THEIR YARD LOOKS LIKE, WHAT

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THE HOUSE LOOKS LIKE AND I CAME TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD GIVE MY TWO CENTS ABOUT IT AND LIKE KERRY SAID MY NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR, YOU KNOW WE HAVE HAD TO FOLLOW THE RULES OF THE CITY WHEN WE HAVE ADDED THINGS , WHICH WE HAVE, WE HAVE ADDED A GARAGE. WE HAVE A SWIMMING POOL. WE HAVE HAD REMODELING DONE TO THE HOUSE, IT WAS BUILT IN 79 SO WE FOLLOWED ALL THE RULES AND I THINK WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PLACE AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ENTIRE STREET LOOK LIKE THAT ESPECIALLY AT 69 BECAUSE WHEN WE DO DECIDE TO SELL IT, WE WANT , WE WANT TO GET THE BEST BUCK YOU KNOW? SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY TONIGHT AND I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO FOLLOW THE RULES. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSIONERS I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I WAS HOPING YOU WOULD SAY DISCUSSION. AS SOON AS WE GET A MOTION WE WILL DISCUSS IT. MR. POLLARD.

>> I WILL MOVE THAT WE TABLED ITEM UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.

>> DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT MOTION? NOT WORKING OR OPERATOR ERROR? OKAY. I DON'T KNOW. HE PROBABLY CAN'T THERE YOU GO.

>> SORRY ABOUT THAT. >> SECOND BY MR. TUCKER. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO TABLED ITEM TO A FUTURE TIME.

DISCUSSION. MR. POLLARD? >> I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE CONCEPT OF WHAT THE APPLICANT WANTS TO DO. UP AND DOWN THAT STREET IS MANY MANY DETACHED GARAGES AND BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT. A BUNCH OF THEM, QUITE A FEW PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN TRAVEL TRAILERS AND MOTORHOMES THAT'S THERE .

HOWEVER, WITH THAT SAID I THINK THE REASON I AM FOR TABLING IT TO THE NEXT MEETING IS TO GET SOME ASSURANCES THAT SOME THINGS ARE GOING TO BE DONE AND MAYBE WITHIN A TIME PERIOD THAT WE KNOW SLAB BECAUSE THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SETBACKS, QUESTIONS ABOUT SLAB ABOUT MEETING THE CODE FOR THE DRIVEWAY. QUITE FRANKLY WITH A NINE FOOT DRIVEWAY I AM SEEING AND WHAT I UNDERSTAND I DON'T SEE THE TURNING RADIUS TO GO DOWN TO THE MIDDLE OF THE THIRD DAY TO BE ABLE TO DO A 90 DEGREE TURN RIGHT IN THERE IF YOU HAVE OTHER VEHICLES PARKED. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE KNOWLEDGE AND ASSURANCES OF

WHAT'S GOING ON, MR. HERNANDEZ. >> I WANT TO TACKLE WHAT MR. POLLARD IS SAYING. THE FACT THIS IS A LARGE STRUCTURE, THE FACT THAT THE STRUCTURE MAY OR MAY NOT CONFORM TO THE CODE, THE SLAB MAY OR MAY NOT CONFORM I BELIEVE UNTIL WE KNOW FOR SURE THIS WILL BE SAFELY BUILT WE SHOULD NOT PROCEED.

>> ANY OTHER? OKAY LET ME WEIGH IN ON THIS. TABLING THIS ITEM DOES NOT DO ANY OF THAT. THE ITEM BEFORE US RIGHT NOW IS THE REQUEST FOR THE SEP FOR THE DRIVEWAY AND BUILDING, IT IS YES OR NO. IF YOU SAY YES BASED ON EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IT IS A PERFECTLY APPROPRIATE THING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE SAY YES, THEN HE STARTS THE PROCESS OF

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PERMITTING. IT WOULD BE JUST LIKE IF THE BUILDING WASN'T THERE AT ALL, HE HAS TO SUBMIT THE PERMITS, ONLY DIFFERENCE IS YOU WILL PAY A LITTLE MORE BECAUSE HE DID NOT DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME SO THERE IS SOME PENALTY TO THAT. AND IF IT TURNS UP THE CITY OFFICIAL SAYS I NEED TO EITHER ONE, GO SEE WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE THE APPROPRIATE REBAR IN THE SLAB OR THE FOOTER WAS APPROPRIATE DEPTH, WHATEVER HAS TO BE DONE TO DETERMINE IT WAS BUILT PER THE DRAWINGS OR COAT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO AND IF IT IS NOT IT'S EITHER GOING TO GET TORN DOWN OR WELL TEAR IT DOWN TAKE IT APART, TEAR UP THE SLAB AND IT WILL BE POURED PROPERLY AND MOVE ON. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. SO IT'S NOT A MATTER OF WAITING TWO WEEKS TO SAY WE WENT AHEAD AND DUG UP THE FOOTER TO THE APPROPRIATE DEPTH SO CAN WE DO THIS? WE ARE NOT AT THAT POINT WE ARE JUST AT THE POINT OF ALLOWING THE APPLICANT TO GET THE PERMIT TO FIND OUT HE MESSED UP AND WHATNOT IS TO POLLARD.

>> I SOMEWHAT AGREE WITH YOU AND SOMEWHAT DON'T, THE REASON IS THIS IS RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL. WE DON'T APPROVE, IT IS PASSED ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND AT SOME POINT THEY WILL SAY YAY OR NAY AND I AM HOPING BY TABLING AND WAITING THAT SOME ANSWERS ARE PROVIDED SO WHEN WE MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION ON THE COUNCIL THAT IT IS NOT A STICKING POINT

AT THAT POINT. >> WHILE YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. WHEN I SAY APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE WE DON'T, CITY COUNCIL DOES. WE ONLY MAKE RECOMMENDATION BUT I'M SAYING IT'S JUST LIKE A LOT OF THE OTHER DEVELOPENTS UNTIL A DEVELOPER OR RESIDENT APPLICANT GETS PERMISSION TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING, HE IS NOT GOING TO INVEST A LOT OF MONEY INTO THE TRAFFIC STUDY, THE YOU KNOW STORM DRAINS STUDIES , THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDIES. SO WE ARE AT THE POINT WHERE WE EITHER APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE OR RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL. OKAY FOR HIM TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE HE HAS TO DO

ALL OF THOSE THINGS. >> I'M SORRY I WANT TO REITERATE. HE CANNOT DO ANY OF THOSE THINGS. UNTIL THEY GET PERMIT APPROVAL BECAUSE WE WILL NOT MOVE THE PERMIT FORWARD UNTIL COUNCIL APPROVES THE SEP. TO FIX THE SLAB AND DO THAT HE CANNOT UNTIL WE HAVE THE SEP BECAUSE WE ARE SITTING ON ALL

THE PERMITS RIGHT NOW. >> THANK YOU, BRITNEY. ANY

FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> I WILL BE WILLING TO RESCIND

. >> MR. TUCKER DO YOU AGREE? OKAY. WITH THAT BEING RESCINDED , I WILL MAKE OR ENTERTAIN ANOTHER MOTION. MR. POLLARD YOUR BUTTON WAS PUSHED.

>> I'M GOING TO PASS. >> MS. WILLIAMS?

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE REQUEST WITH SOME CONDITIONS, THAT THE STRUCTURE COMPLY WITH THE BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS REGARDING THE MINIMUM SPACING BETWEEN BUILDINGS WHICH MUST BE AT LEAST 10 FEET APART UNLESS THE WALLS ARE FIRE RATED, THAT THE DRIVEWAY MEETS THE REQUIRED WIDTH REQUIREMENTS AND THAT THE SLAB MEETS THE PROPER

REQUIREMENTS, AS WELL. >> CAN I ASK YOU TO MAYBE ABBREVIATE THAT? RECOMMEND APPROVAL ? WITH MEETING CODE

REQUIREMENTS. >> WITH MEETING CODE

REQUIREMENTS. >> WHICH IT WILL HAVE TO, BUT YES. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THE SEP WITH CONDITION THAT IT MEETS ALL CODE REQUIREMENTS. TO HAVE A SECOND?

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>> YES MA'AM THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS. WILLIAMS, SECOND BY MR. TUCKER. ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? SEEING NONE, THEN CALL THE VOTE. AND THAT PASSES 4-1. GOOD LUCK.

[4B. Conduct a public hearing and make a recommendation to the City Council on a request by Scott Caruthers, on behalf of property owner Melvin Bullitt, for the approval of a Development Plan with Warrants related to required landscaping per the existing Regulating Plan and Form Base-Urban Village Standards. The property is zoned Form-Based Urban Village (FB-UV) and is located northwest of Liberty Grove Road and Princeton Road, addressed as 8700 Princeton Road, consisting of 5.176 acres in the Bullitt Multisport Addition Survey, Abstract No. 544, Lot 1, Block B, Rowlett, Dallas County, Texas. ]

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON A REQUEST BY SCOTT CARUTHERS, ON BEHALF OF PROPERTY OWNER MELVIN BULLITT, FOR THE APPROVAL OF A DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH WARRANTS RELATED TO REQUIRED LANDSCAPING PER THE EXISTING REGULATING PLAN AND FORM BASE-URBAN VILLAGE STANDARDS. THE PROPERTY IS ZONED FORM-BASED URBAN VILLAGE (FB-UV) AND IS LOCATED NORTHWEST OF LIBERTY GROVE ROAD AND PRINCETON ROAD, ADDRESSED AS 8700 PRINCETON ROAD, CONSISTING OF 5.176 ACRES IN THE BULLITT MULTISPORT ADDITION SURVEY, ABSTRACT NO. 544, LOT 1, BLOCK B, ROWLETT, DALLAS COUNTY,

TEXAS. >> MISS MARANO.

>> SECOND ITEM IN FRONT OF YOU IS REQUEST FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE MULTISPORT COMPLEX DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH WARRANTS A PART OF MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF 10 ACRES SPECIFICALLY LOCATED AT 8700 PRINCETON ROAD, THE SITE PLAN THAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY IS PART OF THE PHASE 2 MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT WHICH CONSISTS OF 5.1 ACRES. ZONING GOVERNING THE AREAS FORM-BASED CODE URBAN VILLAGE WITH OTHER PLANS GOVERNING THE SITE WHICH IS A WOOD SITE LIVING FRAMEWORK PLAN AND THE AMENDED PLAN APPROVED BY COUNCIL LAST YEAR. IN AUGUST. TO BACKTRACK A LITTLE BIT THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS APPROVED NOT DEVELOPMENT PLAN REGULATING PLAN WAS FIRST APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY IN 2014 AS PART OF A THREE-PHASE DEVELOPMENT CONSISTING OF TOWNHOMES, MIXED-USE BUILDINGS AND RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES AND MULTISPORT COMPLEX. THEN AMENDED IN 2022 AT , TO INCORPORATE BATTING CAGES TO PHASE 1 DEVELOPMENT NOW THE APPLICANT CAME BACK LAST YEAR.

>> THANK YOU, GO AHEAD. >> THE APPLICANT CAME BACK LAST YEAR TO REMOVE PREVIOUS PROGRAMMING PHASE 1 AND TWO AND INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING WARRANTS IN FRONT OF YOU PERTAINING ATHLETIC FIELDS, ADDING TURF INSTEAD OF NATURAL GRASS. THERE WERE PARKING WARRANTS FOR THE BLOCK SIZE CONFIGURATION, THE LIGHTING , THE FENCING AND LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE APPLICANT WAS ASKING FOR WARRANTS. NOW THIS IS THE REGULATING PLAN APPROVED LAST YEAR TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'LL SEE PERTAINING THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, IN THIS CASE PRINCETON ROAD HAVING SCREENING LANDSCAPING SCREENING WHICH IS ONE OF THE WARRANTS YOU WILL BE HEARING TONIGHT. AS FAR AS THE SITE DATA ENTAILS , YOU CAN SEE THE TURF FIELDS, PARKING LOT , THE ADDITION TO THE PARKING LOT PER THE REGULATING PLAN AND THE PRACTICE AREA. SO, THE WARRANTS IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT SPECIFICALLY PERTAINING TO THE LANDSCAPING. BACK IN 2024 WHEN THE PLAN WAS APPROVED, AS PART OF THE ASK FROM THE COUNCIL TO ADD TO THE SCREENING NEXT TO THE FENCE THAT WAS APPROVED AS WELL COME IN TERMS OF INTERIOR PARKING LOT REQUIREMENTS, GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT FURTHER ONCE I GET TO THE SPECIFIC WARRANT AND THEN PLANT MATERIALS IS ALSO REQUESTING A WARRANT FOR. FIRST AGAIN LANDSCAPING PER THE REGULATING PLAN REQUIRES A LONG PRINCETON ROAD FOR THE SCREENING OF THE BLACK CHAIN-LINK FENCE THAT WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR THE

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APPLICANT IS LOOKING TO OMIT THAT FOR MAINTENANCE CONCERNS AND ALSO DAMAGES THAT MAY CAUSE TO THE TURF FIELDS PLANTING SO CLOSE TO THE FIELD. THAT IS PART OF HIS JUSTIFICATION. LOOKING TO ADD GRAVEL A LONG PRINCETON ROAD NEXT TO THE FENCE AND ALSO BUSHES. GRAVEL IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S CALLED FOR IN THE ROWLETT FORM-BASED CODE RELATED TO PLANTING AND LANDSCAPING, IT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR PAVING SO THIS IS SILENT ON THE COAT WHICH IS WHY I AM IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY. THE NEXT WARRANT IS INTERIOR PARKING LANDSCAPING. THE CODE ASKED FOR PARKING ISLAND WITH A LARGE TREE EVERY EIGHT SPACES, IN THIS CASE IS ASKING FOR VARIANCES FOR THE PARKING ISLAND CLOSEST TO THE TURF FIELD FOR THE SAME REASON IT JUST CONCERNS WITH DAMAGING THE FIELD. THE LAST WARRANT IS PLANT MATERIALS AGAIN PERTAINING TO THE GRAVEL ALONG PRINCETON ROAD AND ON THE ISLAND WHERE IT REQUIRES A TREE AND ON PRINCETON ROAD IT'S JUST THE SCREENING WITH LANDSCAPING HE IS ASKING FOR GRAVEL SOMETHING SILENT ON THE CODE SO IT IS IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT. JUST ONE LAST ITEM WHEN YOU ARE CONSIDERING ANY TYPE OF APPROVAL FOR MINOR WARRANTS CONSIDER THE FACT WHETHER OR NOT THE INTENT MEETS AND CONFORMS WITH FORM-BASED CODE AND FORM-BASED URBAN VILLAGE WHICH IS THE DISTRICT WHERE THE SITE LIVES IN. WHETHER THE PROJECT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THE ATTRACTIVENESS OF THIS DISTRICT AND IF IT MEETS THE OVERALL INTENT OF THE FORM-BASED URBAN VILLAGE. WE SENT OUT LETTERS WITHIN 200 FEET AND 500 FEET BUFFER FROM THE SITE AND RECEIVED ONLY ONE IN OPPOSITION

, BUT WITH NO COMMENTS WHY. >> I'M SORRY SAY THAT AGAIN.

>> WE DID RECEIVE A LETTER IN OPPOSITION BUT THERE WAS NO COMMENTS TO WHY THEY WERE OPPOSING.

>> OKAY. STAFF, ANY QUESTIONS HE SKEWS ME NOT STAFF, COMMISSIONERS QUESTION FOR STAFF? MR. HERNANDEZ.

>> CAN GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WE TALK ABOUT OMISSION OF THE TREES

ON THE PARKING? >> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. IT SAYS THE APPLICANT IS ASKING TO HAVE TREES OMITTED NEAR THE

SOUTHERN TURF FIELD. >> WHEN I WAS WRITING MY STAFF REPORT THE SOUTHERN PART WAS THE ONE FACING OLD PRINCETON ROAD.

>> OKAY SO IT'S NOT SOUTHERN IT'S THE NORTHERN, THE NORTHERN. ONE THAT'S FACING EAST AND WEST.

>> SPEAKING TO THE ONE FRONTING OLD PRINCETON ROAD, THAT TURF

FIELD. >> WHERE THE RETENTION POND , THAT'S WHERE THEY DON'T WANT TO PUT TREES?

>> THE APPLICANT DID ADD, THE TREES OMITTED FROM THE PARKING ISLAND REQUIRED BY CODE. HE DID PROPOSE ADDING IT TO THE, NEAR WHERE THE DETENTION POND IS SO HE IS PROPOSING THE TREES BUT NOT WHERE THE CODE REQUIRES IS JUST A FORM OF MITIGATION FROM

THE APPLICANT. >> I GUESS THE QUESTION IS IN THE DRAWING YOU HAVE THERE THAT IS HIS NEW PROPOSAL RIGHT? NORMALLY, THERE WOULD BE TWO TREES ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF

THE PARKING LOT OKAY. >> OKAY NOW THAT'S CLEAR. THANK

YOU. MR. POLLARD. >> SO, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION BETWEEN STAFF AND THE APPLICANT ABOUT MAYBE ALTERNATE TREES? I KNOW HE IS MAKING COMMENT THAT THE MYRTLES FOR INSTANCE ARE TOO CLOSE AND WOULD CAUSE POTENTIAL DAMAGE TO THE TURF FIELDS. HE ALSO SAYS THAT THE TREES , THE ROOTS AND ALL WOULD POSSIBLY DAMAGE IS CONCRETE AND MAYBE EVEN THE DIRT FIELDS. IS THERE DISCUSSION OF A TYPE OF TREE AND ROOTS THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE

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TO GO IN, THAT WOULDN'T DAMAGE HIS FIELDS WERE PARKING LOT?

>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS HE WAS WORKING CLOSELY WITH HIS LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT. MELVIN I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING. THIS IS WHAT THEY PROVIDED AS THE BEST ALTERNATIVE BASED ON WHAT HIS NEEDS ARE AND TRYING TO MEET REQUIREMENTS TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE BUT HE IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS

PERTAINING TO THAT MATTER >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU DOES THE APPLICANT WANT TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION OR COMMENT? COME TO THIS SLAUGHTER.

>> MELVIN BULLET, CITY ADDRESS? WHAT IS MY ADDRESS?

>> JUST CITY OF RESIDENCE. >> 6008 . SO, IF YOU CAN ASK THE QUESTION AGAIN MAYBE I CAN BETTER ANSWER YOU.

>> GO AHEAD. >> ON THE LANDSCAPING IS THERE ANY ALTERNATIVE OF TYPES OF TREES YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO PUT IN THAT YOU WOULD THINK WILL NOT DAMAGE OR CONCRETE OR YOUR

TURF? >> SO I WILL JUST GIVE YOU THE BEST ANSWER I CAN. I'M NOT 100% SURE ON WHAT DOES AND DOESN'T DAMAGE BUT I KNOW GRASS GROWS AND LIVE PLANTS AND TREES GROW SO WE HAVE TURF UNDER THE COVERED TRAINING AREA. SAME PROCESS BUT MUCH SMALLER 25 YARDS 15 YARDS WIDE. WE ARE A GOOD 10 FEET FROM ANY GRASS. WE HAVE NOT CONCRETE BUT WOULD IN CURBING WHICH IS WHAT YOU WOULD DO IN A SMALL AREA AND WE HAVE GRASS GROWING UNDERNEATH BECAUSE SAND AND OTHER GRASS GETS ON THERE. WHEN THIS HAPPENS AND GRASS GROWS AND FINDS A PLACE INSIDE OF TURF, YOUR TURF IS RUINED, THE TURF ALONE IS UPWARDS OF 2 MILLION PER FIELD. AND IT IS VERY DAMAGING CONSIDERING THE MONEY PUT INTO THAT, CONSIDERING WHAT THE CODES ARE AND WHAT I KNOW I COULD DO TO MAKE IT NICE AND UNDERSTAND GRAVEL OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF ROCK IS NOT IN CODE. MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO OMIT TREES AROUND THE FIELDS. NOW I UNDERSTAND THESE TREES ARE WANTED FOR THE AESTHETIC FOR THE CODE SO REPLACING THEM INTO THE PARKING IF YOU CAN GO TO THE OTHER SLIDE PLEASE. THANK YOU. PLACING OR ADDING ADDITIONAL TREES TO THE PARKING AREA IF THE AESTHETIC IS NEEDED I UNDERSTAND. BUT IT IS VERY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF ANALOGY TOLIKE SOMEONE OF AND I WANT TO GO TO BED AND THERE'S ANY TYPE OF RAIN OR ANYTHING AT ALL I'M ACTUALLY CONCERNED THERE WILL BE SOME TYPE OF GRASS ENOUGH TO GET ON THE TURF TO DAMAGE. IF YOU LOOK AT IN HIGH SCHOOL FIELDS THERE IS A TRACK AROUND IT, NOT JUST FOR A TRACK BUT FOR A REASON THEY DON'T PUT GRASS BY TURF OR TREES BY TURF BECAUSE WHEN YOU DO YOU ARE TAKING A VERY HIGH RISK OF DAMAGING TURF AND ONCE YOU DO THAT YOU'RE TALKING SIX FIGURES TO FIX IT.

>> SO, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT MAY BE SCOOTING YOUR FIELDS BACK AWAY FROM THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT FURTHER?

>> IF I HAD $1 BILLION I WOULD DO THAT BUT I DON'T. THAT IS ALREADY KIND OF DICTATED BY THE STREET WHEN IT WAS MADE SEVEN YEARS AGO AND THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY. THE CURBING COMPLETED WITH PERMITS GETTING STARTED ON THE FIELDS SO WE ARE AT THE POINT WHERE WE ARE ON THE FINAL STEPS OF GETTING LANDSCAPERS TO COME TO THIS. EVERYTHING IS ALREADY COMPLETE. UNFORTUNATELY FOR MYSELF THE PROCESS HAS BEEN MUCH LONGER THAN EXPECTED SO FIGHTING THROUGH THIS PORTION , IT'S A LITTLE , A LITTLE TENSE BECAUSE GETTING EVERYTHING DONE TO THE FINAL STEPS NOW HAVE THE OBSTACLE OF SOMETHING SO SMALL THAT COULD BE SO DAMAGING TO THE TURF. MY PREFERENCE AS I TOLD WHEN WE HAD OUR MEETING IS TO NOT HAVE ANY TREES OR GRASS AROUND THE TURF AT ALL. AND WE HAD MULTIPLE OPTIONS AND I WAS ABLE TO SPEAK TO YOU GUYS AND GO OVER IT SO I HAVE NO PROBLEMS OR ISSUES WITH WHATEVER ADJUSTMENTS NEED TO BE MADE, THAT'S WHY I MADE THE PREFERENCE OF NICE GRAVEL ROCK ON THAT SIDE AND AS FAR AS THE TREES ON THE PARKING LOT, THE HANDICAP SPACES, THOSE ARE EVEN CLOSER THAN THE ONES ON THE SITE SO THOSE SCARE ME EVEN MORE THAN THE ONES ON THE NEW

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PRINCETON ROAD, THE ONES ON THE NEW PRINCETON ROAD SQUARE ME TO TO THE QUANTITY AND HOW MANY THEY ARE AND HAVING TREES NOW IN THE CURRENT BUILDING AT THE TRAINING CENTER VERY LARGE TREES I CAN TELL YOU WE GET LEAVES AND EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE. IT IS BEAUTIFUL, BUT I'VE GOT TRASH BAGS FULL OF LEAVES AND EVERYTHING. I'M EVEN SCARED THAT WILL OVERFLOW TO THE OTHER SIDE , BUT THOSE ARE ROOTED IN 10 YEARS DEEP AND THOSE ARE NOT

GOING ANYWHERE. >> ARE YOU GOOD? MR. HERNANDEZ?

>> THE ONES ALONG PRINCETON ROAD I BELIEVE BASED ON WHAT I SAW YOU ARE PROPOSING TO PLANT HOLLY BUSHES.

>> NEW PRINCETON ROAD. >> THAT'S CORRECT. IS THERE GOING TO BE GRASS FOR YOUR PUTTING THEM IN THEIR OWN

DEDICATED PLOTS? >> WELL, IT WILL GO FULLY ALONG PRINCETON ROAD AND GRAVEL AROUND IT, BUT YOU NEED DIRT AND SOIL AND THINGS UNDERNEATH. WHEN YOU GET THAT AND YOU GET EVERYTHING ALONG THAT COMES WITH IT WITH THE GROWTH. I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE QUANTITY I HAVE TO PUT IN A LONG AND SO CLOSE ON NEW PRINCETON ROAD BUT AS FAR AS WHAT WE WOULD PUT IN REPLACEMENT, IF IT WAS AS I MENTIONED THE LARGE ROCK WHAT ARE THOSE , DECORATIVE ROCK. IF I WERE TO PLACE THOSE AND I DID NOT KNOW THAT WAS UP TO CODE OR NOT AS WELL. BUT I, AS YOU ALL HAVE THE SAME CARE FOR THE CITY AND THE SAME CARE FOR THE LOOK OF THE FACILITY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME HAVING ANY TYPE OF TREES THAT CLOSE IS VERY VERY CONCERNING.

>> I GUESS THIS QUESTION MAY BE MORE FOR STAFF. IS IT WITHIN CODE TO BE ABLE TO PUT AWNINGS OR COVERING ALONG PRINCETON ROAD? LIKE, INSTEAD OF THE HOLLY BUSHES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO DO SOME KIND OF AWNING ALONG THE FIELD TWO IS THAT SPACE BETWEEN THE FIELD AND THE STREET , COULD HE

DO ANY KIND OF AWNING? >> FOR WHAT PURPOSE?

>> FOR SHADE MOSTLY. >> THE MAIN REASON WHY WE REQUIRE SCREENING ALONG PRINCETON ROAD WAS SCREENING OF THE FENCE OF THE BLACK CHAIN-LINK FENCE.

>> OLD PRINCETON ROAD? >> COUNCIL APPROVED ONLY FOR THE NEW PRINCETON ROAD BECAUSE THERE IS NO SIDEWALK OR SPACE TO MY KNOWLEDGE BETWEEN THE FIELDS ON THE STREET TO ALLOW ANY LANDSCAPING. THAT WAS THE PRIMARY INTENT OF ADDING TREES , AS FAR AS SHADE GOES AND ADDING AWNINGS WE LOVE TO LOOK INTO

THAT FURTHER. >> I HAVE SEEN NOTHING OF THE CODE IS SILENT IT'S NOT ALLOWED.

>> OKAY SO I GUESS IF IT WERE ALLOWED WITH THE APPLICANT BE WILLING TO DO THAT INSTEAD OF BUSHES, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO PUT

AWNINGS INSTEAD? >> THE BUSHES OR THE PLANTINGS WERE THE OBSTRUCTION OF THE FENCE. TO BEAUTIFY THE LOOK.

>> I UNDERSTAND. I CAN APPRECIATE HIS STANCE ON WHAT CAN DAMAGE THESE VERY EXPENSIVE FIELDS BECAUSE HE CANNOT PUT A TRACK OR ANYTHING NEXT TO IT. IT MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE AESTHETIC BECAUSE IT'S NOT GREENERY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, MY THOUGHT WAS WELL IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING AS FAR AS THE SHADE AT LEAST IT'S SOMETHING.

>> IN RESPECT TO YOUR QUESTION I'M NOT SURE WHAT SHADING WOULD DO IN ANY ASPECT OR AS A SOLUTION. THE MAIN KEY IS BLOCKAGE OF THE CHAIN-LINK FENCE WHICH I DO UNDERSTAND. KEEPING EVERYTHING NICE AND THE LOOK WE ARE LOOKING FOR WITH A COAT. WE CURRENTLY HAVE AWNINGS ON THE BUILDING. I DON'T KNOW THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE STRUCTURALLY , EVEN REASONABLE ESPECIALLY AT THIS POINT WITH THE CURBS OF INCOME OF THE FENCING POST ALREADY IN AND THE SIDEWALK AND PARALLEL PARKING

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INSTALLED. >> MR. TUCKER.

>> I KIND OF UNDERSTAND I THINK THE SCREENING IS NOT JUST FOR THE FENCE? TYPICALLY WHEN YOU HAVE A FEEL LIKE THIS YOU HAVE HOUSES AROUND IT SO IT ABSORBS SOME OF THE NOISE AS WELL AS OPPOSED TO JUST BEING BEAUTIFUL. YOU HAD MYRTLE TREES MENTIONED HERE, THE ROOTS ARE VERTICAL, THEY GO STRAIGHT DOWN. THEY DON'T BRANCH OUT LIKE OTHER TREES.

>> YES YOU'RE CORRECT BUT THEY BLOOM VERY HEAVILY AND THAT IS A MAJOR CONCERN. THE BLOOMING IS JUST AS BIG OF A CONCERN AS THE ROUTING UNDERNEATH. I WENT THROUGH ALL OF THESE. WHEN I LEFT I SAID WHAT WE'VE BEEN THINKING OF DOING THE MYRTLES AND AS FAR AS YOU SING HOUSES AROUND THE AREA, THE ONLY HOUSE NEXT TO IT IS MINE, THE 4C CENTER ON NEW PRINCETON ROAD FACING THE FRONTAGE OF THE CENTER SO THE ONLY ONES WHO ACTUALLY SEE THAT PART ARE PEOPLE DRIVING ON NEW PRINCETON ROAD OR ANYONE THAT'S IN THE WEIGHT ROOM, ONE OF THE OFFICES

FACING THE FENCE. >> I THOUGHT I SAW.

>> TO THE NORTH THERE IS. >> ACTUALLY, THE ONLY HOUSES , THERE ARE NO HOUSES FACING. THE ONLY HOUSES THAT YOU GIVEN LOOK AND SEE ARE OLD PRINCETON ROAD, IN THE GARAGE MAYBE FOUR HOUSES.

>> OKAY ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHEN SELECTING A NATIVE TREE OR PLANT TO PLANT ARTIFICIAL TURF OR ASTROTURF IN NORTH TEXAS CONSIDER TREES WITH NONINVASIVE ROOTS, PRODUCE MINIMAL LETTER, TOLERANT TO THE HEAT AND REFLECTED LIGHT AND REQUIRE LITTLE WATER , RIGHT? WE HAVE A LIST OF 10 SPECIES THAT MEET THE REQUIREMENT. AND ONE OF THEM WHICH IS THE TEXAS MOUNTAIN LAUREL IS AN EVERGREEN. VERY HEAT TOLERANT, MINIMAL MAINTENANCE AND IT IS VERY CLEAN. SO I'M NOT SURE YOUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT IS DOING YOU ANY FAVORS BY NOT PROVIDING YOU ALTERNATIVES. AND I DON'T THINK ELIMINATING TREES IN THE AREA WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO DO , BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD VERY MUCH STERILIZE THE AREA AND ARE NOT LOOKING FOR A STERILIZED AREA. WE WERE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS FIT IN THE FORM-BASED, NEW NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR WHICH REMEMBER WE CALLED AN AUDIBLE ON THIS ONE ALREADY IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION AND GOT RID OF THE TOWNHOMES AND THAT.

WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO US HAD THE TREES IN THERE. I AM PERSONALLY THINKING ELIMINATING THEM IS NOT THE RIGHT ANSWER.

>> OKAY. THAT'S OKAY, BUT AS YOU SAID IT NEEDS TO BE LIKE YOU STATED VERY MINIMAL MAINTENANCE AND EXTREMELY LOW BLOOMING, IF AT ALL ALONG WITH LOW ROUTING. IF ANY OF THESE FALL IN THAT , THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A MAJOR ISSUE.

>> OKAY, WOULD YOU BE OPPOSED TO TRADING ARE YOUR CRATE MYRTLES WHICH ARE DIRTY TREES? WITH ONE OF THE SPECIES LISTED IN THAT

LIST? >> I WILL SAY I DON'T TRUST IT

AND I WILL BE 100% HONEST. >> DO YOUR RESEARCH.

>> AND I HAVE OVER 30 YEARS BEING PROFESSIONAL LOOKING AROUND PLAYING IN MULTIPLE STADIUMS AND FIELDS AND HAVE ACTUAL EXPERIENCE, NOT JUST FROM THE INTERNET. SO AS I REBUTTAL RESPECTFULLY, MY RESEARCH IS IN THE FIELD. NOT ONLINE.

>> THAT IS A PERFECTLY REASONABLE RESPONSE. OKAY? ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU. >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING WE WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. FOR ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT . SEEING NO INPUT WE WILL CLOSE

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THE PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSIONERS I'M WILLING TO

ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MISS WILLIAMS.

>> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.

>> DID YOU PUSH YOUR MOTION BUTTON? THANK YOU HAVE A MOTION BY MISS WILLIAMS. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND BY MR. HERNANDEZ. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? MR. POLLARD.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. I UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT'S VIEW , I THOROUGHLY UNDERSTAND ESPECIALLY ABOUT THE CRATE MYRTLES, THE FLOWERS AND THE BLOOMS COME OFF AND THEY GET INTO THE TURF AND EVERYTHING. HE HAS GOT TO CLEAN IT OUT AND SO FORTH, BUT I THINK THAT THERE IS, A POTENTIAL COMPROMISE SOMEWHERE. I AM WILLING TO DITCH THE CRATE MYRTLES , BUT I THINK SOMETHING ELSE NEEDS TO BE PUT IN THERE. I UNDERSTAND HIS HESITATION ABOUT ANY I WILL SAY OAKTREE OR PECAN TREE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE THE ROOT SYSTEM WILL GO OUT AND MAYBE GET UNDER AND POP-UP AND DAMAGED THE SLAB UNDERNEATH THE TURF. BUT I THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME TREES OUT THERE THAT WOULD HAVE A SMALL ROOT BALL THAT DO NOT EXPAND AND WOULD NOT CAUSE A PROBLEM WITH IS SURFACES OVER THERE. THAT NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED AND LOOKED INTO SO ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND HIS PLIGHT , I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT MAYBE THERE IS SOME ACCOMMODATION FOR A COMPROMISE HERE AND LOOK AT A SPECIES THAT WILL WORK ALONG THE

ROADS. BOTH ROADS. >> MISS WILLIAMS.

>> THE BENEFITS TO OUR COMMUNITY OF HIS MULTISPORT COMPLEX FAR OUTWEIGH A FEW TREES. I FEEL LIKE HE HAS MADE A LOT OF EFFORT WITH HIS LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TO COMPROMISE , TO PROTECT THE TURF AND I BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD CONTINUE AND IF THERE IS SOME SOLUTION, THEY OFFER TO GRAVEL WHICH THE CODE DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS. I FEEL LIKE HE IS MAKING EVERY EFFORT AND THAT COMPLEX DOES SO MUCH GOOD FOR ATHLETES WHO ARE TRYING

TO TRAIN TO ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS. >> MR. HERNANDEZ.

>> I DO WANT MISS WILLIAMS IS SAYING. I BELIEVE WHILE IT IS NOT IDEAL THAT THE VEGETATION HAS TO BE REMOVED, I GET IT AND I THINK , I WISH THERE WAS A BETTER SOLUTION, BUT IF THIS IS THE WAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH HIS PROJECT AND I WOULD SAY YES.

>> MR. POLLARD. >> YOU REALIZE HE IS ALSO TAKING THE TREES OUT OF THE PARKING AREAS THAT'S NOT ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THE FIELDS AND I REALIZE THAT, BUT THE POINT IS HE IS TAKING THEM OUT OF THE PARKING LOT AS WELL ALTHOUGH MOVING THEM OVER TO THE DRAINAGE AREA, THE DETENTION AREA. NEVERTHELESS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OTHER TREES THAT WERE NOT DISTURB THE

PLAYING SURFACES AT ALL. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WELL, I CAN APPRECIATE WHAT THE COMPLEX DOES. HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT, HOWEVER,, I CAN APPRECIATE THE LOOK, AS WELL AS WHAT IT PHYSICALLY DOES. AND I BELIEVE AND I'M NOT A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT. THERE IS SUFFICIENT INFORMATION THAT I CAN MAKE

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AVAILABLE TO MYSELF TO DETERMINE THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS BESIDE ROCK . I WOULD NOT SUPPORT PUTTING JUST ROCK IN THERE.

>> UNDERSTAND. >> I'M SORRY BUT.

>> I DID NOT KNOW YOU WERE NOT FINISHED, I'M SORRY.

>> IT'S NOT THAT I'M NOT FINISHED, WE HAVE ALREADY TALKED TO YOU AND ASKED FOR YOUR INPUT. WE ARE NOW CONVERSING AMONG

OURSELVES. >> OKAY.

>> NOT TO BE RUDE BUT PROCEDURALLY THAT'S THE WAY IT IS. I THINK THAT BEFORE I CAN SUPPORT GOING TO STONE I WOULD WANT MORE EFFORT PUT INTO TRYING TO IDENTIFY SOMETHING THAT WOULD MEET THE CODE REQUIREMENT WHICH WAS A SCREENING WALL. OKAY A LIVE SCREENING WALL AND WOULD NOT NEGATIVELY AFFECT THE FIELD.

SO, YOU HAVE TO HOLD ON. GO AHEAD.

>> YOUR MOTION WAS TO PROVE. >> TO PROVE WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT ADDITIONAL RESEARCH IS DONE ON THE ALTERNATIVES , YOU KNOW TO MEET THE CODE MORE CLOSELY IF FEASIBLE .

>> NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT YOUR MOTION IS. YOU WANT TO PROVE THE

REQUEST? >> APPROVE WITH THE CONDITION , YOU HAVE SAID THERE IS 10 TREES THAT WILL WORK. LET HIM GET WITH A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND SEE IF THEY AGREE WITH YOU AND THEN IF NOT, PROCEED. I HATE TO HOLD THIS WONDERFUL PROJECT UP

>> WE WON'T HOLD IT UP, IT'S A MATTER WHETHER OR NOT HE WILL PLANT THE TREES OR NOT. IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A REQUEST, NOT TO PLANT THE TREES THEN THAT'S

THE MOTION. OKAY? >> OKAY.

>> I BELIEVE MY MOTION. >> CORRECT MR. HERNANDEZ? APPROVE HIS REQUEST TO REMOVE THE TREES. OKAY. I'M SORRY.

>> I WANT TO BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR. THE CRATE MYRTLES WERE LONG RINSED AND WROTE NOT THE PARKING LOT.

>> YES, CHAIRPERSON, IF YOU ARE WANTING TO SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT THE CRATE MYRTLES ON PRINCETON ROAD THAT'S THE WARRANT. REMEMBER THERE'S THREE, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEM SPECIFICALLY. IF YOU WISH AMENDMENTS FOR EACH.

>> RIGHT, THE CRATE MYRTLES ALONG PRINCETON ROAD ARE BEING REMOVED IN FAVOR OF HOLLY BUSHES. THEN THE SECOND WAS REMOVAL OF THE TREES , ON THE PARKING LOT.

>> THE PARKING ISLAND. >> AND THOSE ARE BEING REMOVED

IN FAVOR OF STONE. >> STONE AND OTHER PLANTING. NOT JUST STONE, SPECIFICALLY, CAN YOU GO THE SECOND TO LAST SLIDE WHERE HE SHOWING? WE ARE HIGHLIGHTING THE DASHED LINES SO THAT'S WHERE GRAVEL IS GOING TO BE. SITUATED.

>> ON THAT WHERE THE RETENTION POND IS. THE SOUTHERN END OF THE PARKING LOT, THOSE TREES REMAIN? OR A COUPLE ARE REMOVED?

>> THE ONLY ONES REMOVED, WHAT YOU ARE SEEING NOW THE PLAN AS PROPOSING WITHOUT TREES ON THE PARKING ISLAND CLOSEST TO THE TURF FIELD , THREE TREES HE IS LOOKING. FROM WHAT THE WARRANT IS FOR. IN ADDITION TO THAT, TREES ON THE SOUTHERN PART WHAT YOU ARE SEEING, YES BY THAT SIDEWALK THOSE ARE TREES THAT INSTEAD OF PLANTING THEM ON PRINCETON ROAD, HE ASKED IF HE COULD PLANT WHERE THE PARKING LOT IS CURRENTLY SITUATED.

>> THE ONLY THING ALONG PRINCETON ROAD WILL BE HOLLY

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BUSHES AND THE GRAVEL. HE IS REMOVING THE CRATE MYRTLES FOR THE HOLLY BUSHES AND GRAVEL. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TREE REMOVAL'S WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF THAT'S ALREADY THERE OR NOT. I GUESS THE COMMENTS I AM HEARING FROM YOU MR. CHAIRMAN AND MR. POLLARD. THERE WERE NOT JIVING TO ME SOMETHING DID NOT SOUND. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS A DIFFERENT IMPRESSION OR BUT BECAUSE IT SOUNDS TO ME THERE

WAS A DIFFERENT THOUGHT. >> I THINK THE THOUGHT FROM MY STANDPOINT IS ANY TREE THAT'S CLOSE TO THE ARTIFICIAL TURF NEEDS TO GO AND WE CAN PUT ROCK THERE. AND WHETHER IT'S THE PARKING LOT THERE ARE SEVERAL OPINIONS THE TURF AREA OR WHETHER IT'S ALONG PRINCETON ROAD , ANY OTHER PLACE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF OLD PRINCETON ROAD, ANYTHING THERE? THOSE TWO AREAS. IT WAS AT, FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE ASTROTURF.

>> THERE ARE NO TREES ALONG PRESTON ROAD CRATE MYRTLES.

>> TREES AND CRATE MYRTLES. >> THE PRINCETON ROAD THAT'S THE HOLLY BUSHES SO THERE WILL BE VEGETATION WITH GRAVEL. THE PARKING AREA WARRANT THAT'S THE ONLY THING I GUESS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOT PUTTING TREES IN AT ALL. NOT PUTTING IN PLANTINGS. OKAY. WHAT'S THE THIRD?

>> THE GRAVEL ALLOWING GRAVEL. INSTEAD OF SHRUBBERY OR GREENERY. BECAUSE THE CODE IS SILENT.

>> WHICH USUALLY MEANS NO. OKAY. WELL I'M SORRY, DID YOU HAVE

ANYTHING TO SAY? >> LET'S GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL , WOULD YOU MIND WITHDRAWING YOUR MOTION? MISS WILLIAMS? BECAUSE WE NEED TO DO ONE WARRANT AT A TIME.

>> OH, OKAY. I WITHDRAW MY MOTION.

>> HOLD ON ONE SECOND. CAN WE GO AHEAD AND THE PRESENTATION PUT UP THE THREE WARRANTS? SO THEY'RE EASIER TO WORD. WELL, MISS BRITNEY THAT DOES NOT HELP ME. I GUESS IT DOES HELP ME BECAUSE YOU CAN GO BACK , THE WARRANT TO THE 2024 REGULATING PLAN FOR LANDSCAPING IS FOR THE MATERIAL ON OLD PRINCETON ROAD OR NEW PRINCETON ROAD. SO THAT'S WHERE HE WANTS TO TAKE .

THE CRATE MYRTLES INCLUDING THE HOLLY. OKAY IF YOU WANT TO MAKE

A MOTION FOR THE WARRANT. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING WARRANT REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT. WARRANT NUMBER ONE, TO THE APPROVED 2024 REGULATING PLAN LANDSCAPING

REQUEST. WARRANT NUMBER TWO. >> ONE AT A TIME. CAN WE HAVE A Y MR. HERNANDEZ. DISCUSSION ON REPLACING CRATE MYRTLES WITH HOLLY BUSHES ? SEEING NONE WE WILL CALL THE VOTE. DO YOU HAVE THOSE BROKEN OUT INTO THREE WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IT BY HAND?

>> WE DON'T HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN.

>> YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION FOR ALL THREE AND DO ONE.

>> I THINK WE WILL DO THEM ONE AT A TIME. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO REMOVE THE CRATE MYRTLES OR SUBSTITUTE HOLLY FOR CRATE MYRTLES ON NEW PRINCETON ROAD RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED? SO THAT IS DEFEATED 3-2. WARRANT NUMBER TWO. MOVING

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THE TREES FROM THE INTERIOR PARKING LOT LANDSCAPING. CAN I GET CLARIFICATION , THAT'S TWO TREES THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE

THERE, THAT WERE THREE? >> WE ALSO COUNT DETERMINED . SO TO THE END OF THE PARKING LOT IN THE TREE IN THE MIDDLE OR THE

TREE ON THE PARKING ISLAND. >> HE IS AMENABLE TO MOVING

THOSE? >> HE DID, YOU CAN SEE THERE BY

THE DETENTION POND. >> OKAY.

>> IT DOES NOT CAPTURE THE WHOLE PICTURE BUT THERE IS ANOTHER

TREE PLANTED. >> OKAY THIS WARRANT WOULD BE TO PROVE , APPROVE INTERIOR PARKING LOT LANDSCAPING CHANGE TO MOVE TREES FROM THE TERMINAL AND ISLAND POSITIONS TO THE DRAINAGE

AREA. MISS WILLIAMS? >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE WARRANT TO THE CODE ARTICLE 2.6 A .2 .1 TO THE INTERIOR PARK LANDSCAPE AS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT.

>> CONSIDERING WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO DO SOMETHING I WAS NOT FOLLOWING BECAUSE SOMEBODY REMOVED MY PRESENTATION I'M SORRY. MISS WILLIAMS COULD YOU REPEAT YOUR MOTION?

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE WARRANT REQUEST TO THE FORM-BASED CODE ARTICLE 2.8.6 A .2 .1 INTERIOR PARKING LANDSCAPE

AS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT. >> TWO POINT HI.

>> I'M SORRY. I CORRECT THE ARTICLE NUMBER ARTICLE 2.8 I CORRECT THE ARTICLE NUMBER ARTICLE 2.8.6 A .2 POINT I.

>> MOTION ON THE FLOOR WE HAVE A SECOND ? PUSH YOUR MOTION BUTTON. YES WE HAVE MOTION ON THE FLOOR WE HAVE A SECOND MR. HERNANDEZ ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ? SEEING NONE WE WILL CALL THE VOTE. BY HAND, VOTE BY HAND EXCUSE ME. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES 5-1. ONTO THE LAST ONE.

IF I COULD TO WHAT EXTENT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS PLANTING

MATERIAL? >> THIS ITEM AGAIN IS SILENT ON

OUR CODE. >> I'M SAYING WHAT AREA ARE WE

TALKING ABOUT? >> TALKING ABOUT THE CORNER TERMINUS ON THE PARKING LOT AND ANY TYPE OF GRAVEL ON PRINCETON ROAD BY THE CHAIN-LINK FENCE WHICH THE INTENT IS TO ADD IT WITH THE SHRUBS. ANYTHING PERTAINING TO THE AREA NEAR PRINCETON ROAD CLOSE TO THE CHAIN-LINK FENCE SO THAT IS ONE IN THE CORNER TERMINUS OF THE PARKING LOT NEAR THE TURF FIELD,

THOSE ARE THE SPACES. >> THIS IS IN LIEU OF WHAT WE WOULD HAVE CONSIDERED OR WHAT WE WOULD OF THOUGHT WOULD OF BEEN

NATURAL TURF IN THE AREA? >> NATURAL PLANTING, SHRUBS. ANY SURFACE, GRASS IN THAT SENSE REGARD. WE WON'T SAY NATURAL .

>> GRASS OR MULCH, GRAVEL COULD BE .

>> OKAY. SO WE WILL , OKAY. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. IF YOU COULD FLIP BACK . IT'S RIGHT THERE I'M SORRY YOUR GOOD. IT WAS ON THE TOP OF THE PAGE. MOTION FOR THE WARRANT

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ASSOCIATED WITH PLANT MATERIAL. MISS WILLIAMS.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE

>> AND WE HAVE A SECOND BY MR. HERNANDEZ. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION? I'M JUST, I DON'T KNOW I'M NOT FEELING THIS ONE.

THERE SOMETHING ABOUT THE STONES THAT I JUST DON'T LIKE. NOT THAT I DON'T HAVE STONES BUT OKAY, NO DISCUSSION WE WILL CALL THE VOTE. BY HAND, I'M SORRY. I WILL GET HERE TODAY. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE WARRANT FOR PLANT MATERIAL RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED. AND THAT ONE CARRIES 3-2. MY GOODNESS. WITH

[4C. Consider and make a recommendation to the City Council on a request by Sri Harsha Thotakura, on behalf of the property owners, Lakeview Biergarten LLC, for approval of a Tree Removal Permit application on property zoned Planned Development (PD) District with a base zoning of Commercial/Retail (C-2). The approximately 3.19-acre site is part of the James Hobb Survey, Abstract No. 571 in the City of Rowlett, Dallas County, Texas. ]

THAT BEING SAID WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.

CONSIDER AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON A REQUEST BY SRI HARSHA THOTAKURA, ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, LAKEVIEW BIERGARTEN LLC, FOR APPROVAL OF A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPLICATION ON PROPERTY ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT (PD) DISTRICT WITH A BASE ZONING OF COMMERCIAL/RETAIL (C-2). THE APPROXIMATELY 3.19-ACRE SITE IS PART OF THE JAMES HOBB SURVEY, ABSTRACT NO. 571 IN THE CITY OF ROWLETT, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS.

>> COMMISSIONERS THE FINAL ITEM IN FRONT OF YOU IS A REQUEST FOR TREE REMOVAL PERMIT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF 138,000 SQUARE FEET WHICH CONSISTS OF A FOOD TRUCK YARD. YOU MAY KNOW IT , FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF 107 PARKING SPOTS WITH INFRASTRUCTURE TO CARRY OUT DEVELOPMENT, APPROXIMATELY 3.5 ACRES WHICH FRONTS LAKEVIEW PARKWAY LOCATED AT 6851 LAKEVIEW PARKWAY. THIS IS WITHIN PLANT DEVELOPMENT FOR COMMERCIAL C 2 USE. BACKGROUND INFORMATION, YOU ARE AWARE OF THE PROJECT, BUT THIS WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN JUNE 2024. IT CAME BACK TO YOU WITH AMENDMENT , THE SAME YEAR. THIS IS PART OF THE BUSINESS OUTWEIGH STRATEGIC OPPORTUNITY AREA WITHIN THE CONFERENCE A PLAN AS FAR AS FUTURE LAND USE IT CALLS FOR THE OFFICE RETAIL COMMERCIAL USE. THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS APPROVED JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. I JUST WANT TO SHARE. IT'S ALSO PART OF THE STAFF REPORT TREE PRESERVATION AND MITIGATION PLAN. WITH CALCULATIONS SHOWN HERE SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING. OUT OF 29 PROTECTIVE TREES ON-SITE TO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REMOVE NINE TREES KEEPING 20 ON-SITE , THIS MEANS ALSO THEY ARE NOT LOOKING TO PLANT ANY TREES WITHIN THE LANDSCAPING PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. IN THIS CASE THERE IS NO MITIGATION REQUIRED, THEY ARE KEEPING MORE TREES THAN WHAT THEY ARE REMOVING. THAT IS THE END OF REPRESENTATION. YOU MAY APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY THE REQUEST.

>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IS THE APPLICANT HERE? DO YOU WANT TO PRESENT ANYTHING?

>> COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY. SEEING NONE I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MR. HERNANDEZ.

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR THE TREE

REMOVAL PERMIT. >> WITH A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, SECONDED BY MISS WILLIAMS. ANY DISCUSSION? ON THE MOTION?

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SEEING NONE WE WILL CALL THE VOTE.

THAT PASSES 5-0, THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.