[4A. Conduct a public hearing and make a recommendation to City Council on a request by Mike Martinie, Spiars Engineering, on behalf of property owners, Renjith and Feba Finney, and Trustees of the Rowlett Church of Christ, to 1) Rezone the subject property from Single-Family Residential−10/21 (SF-10) to Planned Development District (PD) with a base zoning of Multi-Family Attached Residential Townhouse (PD - MF-TH); 2) Approve a Concept Plan to construct 180 Townhomes; 3) Amend the Comprehensive Plan; and 4) Amend the official Zoning Map of the City. The property is located generally east of President George Bush Highway and north of Lakeview Parkway consisting of a 13.316-acre tract situated in the Henry H. Hall Survey, Abstract No. 633, in the City of Rowlett, Dallas County, Texas. ]

MOVING ONTO ITEMS OF INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. ITEM 4-A. THE PUBLIC HEARING COMMENTS MAY BE MADE IN PERSON AND WILL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. REGISTRATION FORMS ARE AVAILABLE INSIDE THE DOOR OF CITY COUNCIL

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CHAMBERS. ITEM 4- 5, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON A REQUEST BY MARK MARTINIE, ROWLETT CHURCH OF CHRIST TO REZONE FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL 1021 SF- 10, TO PLAN DEVELOP DISTRICT, PD, WITH A BASED ZONING OF MULTIFALLY ATTACHED RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOUSES, TO APPROVE A CONCEPT PLAN TO CONSTRUCTION 168 TOWNHOMES.

THREE, AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

FOUR, AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED GENERALLY EAST OF PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH HIGHWAY, NORTH OF LAKEVIEW PARKWAY, CONSISTING OF 13.316- ACRE TRACK, ABOUT INSTRUCT NUMBER 366 IN THE CITY OF ROWLETT, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS.

>> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS, CHAIRMAN. MY NAME IS MICHAEL KING, I'M THE SENIOR PLANNER. BRINGING FORWARD THIS CASE, THIS SITE LOCATION IS AT 5604 PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH HIGHWAY. IT'S EAST OF GEORGE BUSH HIGHWAY, NORTH OF LAKEVIEW PARKWAY, NEXT TO COVINGTON'S NURSERY. AND SOME RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TO THE NORTH. THE ZONING CURRENTLY IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, SF-10.

THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONSIDERS THIS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND ZONING CHANGES REQUESTED FOR THIS 13. 34 ACRES.

CURRENTLY, IT'S LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

WHAT'S PROPOSED IS MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL, TO ALLOW GREATER THAN TEN DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

ZONING CHANGE REQUESTED TO GO FROM SF-10 TO A MULTIFAMILY ZONING ATTACHED RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOUSE.

IT'S MFTH. AND SO, YOU CAN SEE HOW IT LINES UP WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES ON THIS MAP. THE CONCEPT PLAN FROM THE PROPOSED DOCUMENT THAT THEY'VE GIVEN US IS 168 UNIT COTTAGE-STYLE UNITS ON ONE LOT.

THE UNITS ARE DUPLEX- STYLE TOWNHOMES, SO, THERE'S TWO UNITS FOR EACH STRUCTURE. IT MEETS ALL THE DENSITY AND REQUIREMENTS. ITS ACCESS TO THE IN AND OUT IS THROUGH, OFF THE GEORGE BUSH -- PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TOLLWAY. THERE IS AN EGRESS EXIT , OR AN EGRESS GATE ON THE PRIVATE DRIVE NEXT TO COVINGTON'S. THE PRIVATE LOT IS TO BE MAINTAINED BY MANAGEMENT COMPANY, NOT AN HOA, AND IT'S VA VALET TRASH SERVICES FOR THE RESIDENTS TO MITIGATE THE WALK TO A DUMPSTER AND HAVING EXTRA DUMPSTERS BEING REQUIRED. SO, AS FAR AS LANDSCAPING, THIS IS A CONCEPTIONAL LANDSCAPE PLAN. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE AN ENTRANCE GATE AS MOST SUBDIVISIONS HAVE, IT'S MORE OF JUST A DRIVE- ENTRANCE, BUT THE FRONT EDGE REQUIRES SIX- FOOT TALL MASONRY SCREENING WALL, 23 CANOPY TREES, 270 SHRUBS ALONG THIS STRETCH.

THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN EXCEEDS THIS .

THE OPEN SPACE THAT'S PROVIDED IN THIS LANDSCAPE PLAN IS ESSENTIAL CENTRALLY LOCATED PARK, PLAY EQUIPMENT, THERE'S A PICKLE BALL COURT.

THERE IS ALSO A DOG PARK IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER.

THE CLUBHOUSE RIGHT AS YOU COME INTO THE COMMUNITY. AND A PRIVATE POOL NEXT TO THE CLUBHOUSE.

THESE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS OF THE PROTOTYPES FOR WHAT THEY WANT TO BUILD. SO, WHEN IT COMES INTO A PD, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE YOUR -- WHAT IS REQUIRED, AND WHAT'S REQUESTED. SO, IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE A MINIMUM DWELLING FLOOR AREA OF 2,200 SQUARE FEET FOR TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENTS. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTS 680 SQUARE FOOT FOR A SINGLE BEDROOM DUPLEX. AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR 680 DUE TO THE MARKET CONDITIONS AND DETACHED PARKING, MOST TOWNHOUSES HAVE PARKING UNDERNEATH.

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SO, IT ADDS TO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.

LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING, MOST MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENTS REQUIRE MASONRY WALL ALL THE WAY AROUND, OR LIVING SCREEN.

THE APPLICANT WISHES TO USE A SIX- FOOT ORNAMENTAL DECORATED FENCE ALONG THE SIDES WITH A SIX- FOOT BOARD TO BOARD WOODEN FENCE ALONG THE REAR.

OFF-STREET PARKING. WE REQUIRE 1. 5 PARKING SPACES FOR A ONE- BEDROOM UNIT. THEY'RE REQUESTING ONE PARKING SPACE FOR A ONE-BEDROOM UNIT.

LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING, WE REQUIRE 21 CANOPY TREES.

AND IN THE PARKING AREA, THEY'RE SUBSTITUTING 11 ORNAMENTAL TREES FOR 11 OF THE 21 REQUIRED CANOPY TREES DUE TO THE SPACE CONSTRAINTS WITHIN THE ACCESS ROAD WITHIN THE PROPERTY.

SO, WE SENT OUT SOME NOTIFICATION, WE SENT 19 NOTICES OUT 200 FEET, WE SENT 52 NOTICES OUT 500 FEET.

WE RECEIVED TWO IN OPPOSITION IN THE 200 FEET LEGAL NOTICE AREA, WE RECEIVED THREE IN OPPOSITION IN THE 500- FOOT AREA. WE RECEIVED 26 ADDITIONAL LETTERS OF OPPOSITION OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION BUFFER.

SO, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS , AS A -- TO YOU IS -- THE RECOMMENDING BODY MAKE TAKE THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS.

YOU MAY APPROVE, YOU MAY APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS, OR YOU MAY DENY. AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO QUESTIONS. AND ALSO, WE HAVE THE APPLICANT WISHES TO MAKE A PRESENTATION, AS WELL,

SO -- >> THANK YOU, SIR. FIRST, LET'S -- COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTION FOR STAFF? NONE.

THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT PROVIDED A

PRESENTATION? >> AH, MR. TY ROBINSON WANTS TO COME UP AND GIVE A PRESENTATION.

>> LET'S SEE HERE. IS IT -- THANK YOU, MICHAEL. MY NAME IS TY ROBINSON, MY ADDRESS IS 6546 DARTBROOK DRIVE IN DALLAS, TEXAS, 75454.

AND I WORK FOR THE FAMILY OF BUSINESSES OF HISTORY MAKER HOMES, AND COME TONIGHT WITH A LOT OF CONTEXT OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON DILIGENTLY OVER REALLY THE LAST SEVEN OR EIGHT MONTHS, AND REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL HAVING US HERE TONIGHT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND WE'LL JUMP RIGHT IN. ULTIMATELY, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH MY TIME UP HERE IS PROVIDE YOU ALL A -- AN OVERVIEW OF WHO WE ARE.

WHERE DO WE COME FROM, WHY ROWLETT, TEXAS, AND WHAT IS OUR PRODUCT? WHAT COMMUNITY ARE WE CREATING, BECAUSE IT -- IT IS UNIQUE IN NATURE, AND I KNOW IT -- IT WILL ULTIMATELY, TO A LOT OF QUESTIONS, AND I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE CLARITY AROUND THAT, AND WITH IT PROVIDE YOU ALL AL BREADTH OF INFORMATION ON THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED INTO OUR PLAN. THIS HAS BEEN AN ITERATIVE PROCESS FOR US, AND HIGHLY COLLABORATIVE, WITH RESIDENTS OF ROWLETT, WITH CITY OFFICIALS, AND GIVEN THE PLATFORM OF WHAT WE OFFER, IT'S HIGHLY IMPORTANT, SO, FROM A HIGH LEVEL STANDPOINT, WHO IS HISTORY MAKER HOMES? WE'RE THE OLDEST HOME BUILDER BUILDER THE STATE OF TEXAS. WE WERE FOUNDED IN 1949, WE'RE CELEBRATING 76 YEARS THIS YEAR, AND HAVE EVERY INTENT TO BE AROUND FOR ANOTHER 76 YEARS. AND WITH THAT , THAT IS WHAT DRIVES EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.

THE -- THE STRATEGY, THE CULTURE, OUR VALUES SHAPE EVERY DECISION THAT WE MAKE. WE'VE CONSTRUCTED OVER 22,000 HOMES OVER THE 76-YEAR SPAN, AND WITH IT, HAVE EVOLVED AS RESIDENT PREFERENCES HAVE CHANGED. THEY'VE CHANGED IN THE LAST FIVE TO TEN YEARS, WHICH LEADS TO A RESIDENTIAL DUPLEX-STYLE HOME THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE CHANGING TIMES.

WITH THAT, OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS, ONM LIVING WAS BIRTHED.

IT'S OUR SISTER COMPANY. WE SPECIALIZE IN DUPLEX- STYLE COTTAGE HOMES THAT ARE TRULY ELEVATED. THERE IS A RICH HISTORY

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, WE'VE CAPITALIZED AND EXECUTED ON TEN COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS. WITH IT, WE'VE GOTTEN BETTER AND BETTER AND REALIZED WHO THIS RESIDENT IS. WE HEAR AND EXPERIENCE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AROUND WHAT -- WHAT IS RESIDENTIAL -- WHAT ARE RESIDENTIAL DUPLEXES? AND I'D LIKE TO OFFER SOME CLARIFICATION AROUND EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS, BECAUSE IT IS EXTREMELY RELEVANT TO WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY. ULTIMATELY, IT'S A MODERN WAY OF LIVING. FAMILY FORMATION PREFERENCES HAVE CHANGED DRAMATICALLY. AND WITH IT, HOW PEOPLE SPENDING THEIR MONEY HAS, AS WELL. SO, OUR DUPLEX- STYLE HOMES OFFER AN ELEVATED EXPERIENCE.

FOR THAT RESIDENT, WHICH DRIVES UP A PREMIUM. IT IS A -- IT'S TRULY A PREMIUM RESIDENT THAT IS PAYING ANYWHERE FROM 10% TO 30% MORE THAN, SAY, A TRADITIONAL MULTIFAMILY, BECAUSE THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE. THIS IS NOT HIGH DENSITY, TRADITIONAL MULTIFAMILY.

IT IS -- IT'S AN ELEVATED EXPERIENCE. AND FOR US, LONG-TERM MIND- SET , THAT'S WHAT MATTERS MOST. BECAUSE WE WANT RESIDENTS TO STAY THERE FOR A LONG TIME, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.

AND WITH IT, THE DECKGRAPH ICKES AND THE PROFILE OF WHO LIVES THERE CHANGES, SO, WE ARE PROFESSIONALLY MANAGED, FULLY SECURITIZED, AND WE OFFER REALLY A LOW TO MID DENSITY LIVING EXPERIENCE THAT ATTRACTS A CERTAIN TYPE OF PERSON THAT IS -- THAT IS ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S NOT A TRANSIENT TYPE. WHAT HAS DRAWN US TO THIS SPECIFIC SITE IS ULTIMATELY, IT'S THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF IT. WE EXPLORED IT ON THE HISTORY MAKER HOME SIDE, THAT'S THE SINGLE FAMILY BUILDER, PORTION OF OUR BUSINESS, AND ULTIMATELY, IT -- THERE IS ZERO INTEREST ON THAT END, AND THEY -- ULTIMATELY VALIDATED THAT THIS IS -- THIS IS NOT A SINGLE FAMILY LAND PLAY, PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF ITS ADJACENCY TO COMMERCIAL USE.

WITH THAT, WE HAVE COME IN AND LOOKED AT WHY OUR DUPLEX- STYLE ULTIMATELY -- THERE IS A NATURAL BARRIER, AND IT'S A TRANSITIONAL USE FROM COMMERCIAL TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, IT'S -- AS OPPOSED TO, SAY, A COMMERCIAL USE OR ANY OTHER, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, HIGH DENSITY MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING AMPLE PARKING, PRIVATE BACKYARDS, AND IN THE END, IT -- IT IS THE HIGHEST TAX BASE OF ALL OTHER USES, SO WE'LL GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THAT LATER. FOR US, THE WAY THAT WE LOOK AT OUR COMMUNITIES, IN ORDER FOR RESIDENTS TO STAY FOR A LONG TIME, YOU WANT TO CREATE A QUALITY EXPERIENCE.

THAT IS NOT ONLY A CORE VALUE, BUT IT IS ULTIMATELY A BEST BUSINESS PRACTICE, AS WELL , SO, OUR RESIDENTS STAY AVERAGE THREE YEARS. THEY'RE RENTERS BY CHOICE AND RENTERS BY NEED. IT IS BOTH TYPES OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE. WITH IT, WE ARE FULLY AMENITIZED, FROM THE MANAGEMENT AND MAINTENANCE TO THE SECURITY TO AMPLE PARKING, WITH VALET TRASH SERVICES, PICKLE BALL COURTS, AN ELEMENT OF THIS COMMUNITY, AND YOU'LL SEE IN THIS COLORED LAND PLAN ABOVE, IS FOR US, THE PRESERVATION OF THE GREEN SPACES, THE TREES, IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.

33% OF THIS SITE IS COMPLETELY LANDSCAPED, AND THAT ADDS TO THAT RESIDENCE EXPERIENCE, WHILE MAINTAIING THE INTEGRITY AND THE SPIRIT OF THE AREA. THIS IS KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE SIZE OF UNITS THAT WE HAVE. THESE HOMES AVERAGE 900 SQUARE FEET AND CAN COMMAND, WE BELIEVE, ANYWHERE FROM $2,100 TO $2,200÷÷ A MONTH IN RENT, THIS IS BASE RENT, WITH ADDITIONAL FEES FOR THAT RESIDENT. SO, AGAIN, IT DRAWS IN A -- AN ELEVATED RENTER.

AS WE LOOK AT JUST THE SITE AS A WHOLE, I KNOW IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED FOR LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, AND AS WE HAVE BEEN ASSESSING THIS OPPORTUNITY, WE LOOKED AT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES VERSUS OUR RESIDENTIAL DUPLEXES. WE BEGAN TO HEAR CONVERSATIONS AROUND THE CITY'S HOPE TO HAVE EVEN SOME COMMERCIAL USER THERE, AND ULTIMATELY, WE RAN A HIGHEST BEST USE ANALYSIS AND

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WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS, UNDENIABLY, RESIDENTIAL DUPLEXES ARE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE, BECAUSE OF THE ACCESS, LOCATION, TRANSITIONAL CHARACTERISTICS, AND IT OFFERS THE HIGHEST TAX BASE BY A MEANINGFUL AMOUNT . AS WE'VE ENTERED INTO THIS PROCESS, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO WORK CLOSELY WITH THE CITY . ON MAY 26TH, WE HOSTED OUR VERY FIRST MEET AND GREET WITH THE HOAS AND THE RESIDENTS AT FLAMINGO, AS WELL AS MARINER PARK. THEN, IN JUNE, WE WENT OUT TO THE FLAMINGO DRIVE AND INTERACTED WITH A WIDE RANGE OF RESIDENTS. WE KNOCKED ON DOORS, HAD GREAT CONVERSATIONS , AND JUST TO SHARE OUR THOUGHTS AND ALSO TAKE THEIR FEEDBACK. SINCE THEN, WE OFFERED OUR FIRST CITY AND THE STAFF PROVIDED COMMENTS. WE MADE DRAMATIC CHANGES TO MEET THESE NEEDS. FOR EXAMPLE, WE REDUCED THE DENSITY, WE WENT FROM 180 UNITS TO 168 HOMES.

WE ELIMINATED OUR SMALLEST UNIT TYPE , SO THAT IT IS ACTUALLY ATTRACTING A LARGER FAMILY -- IT'S A YOUNG FAMILY, WITH A LARGER HOME, AND A LARGER PRICE POINT. WITH THAT, WE WENT ONTO THE SECOND LAND SUBMITTAL AND ULTIMATELY HAVE ARRIVED THAT THE PLAN YOU ALL HAVE SEEN.

HERE ARE SOME -- JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS ON EXACTLY WHAT I DESCRIBED. WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE TRANSITIONAL BUFFER. THERE'S A CREEK ON THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF OUR SITE THAT IS HEAVILY WOODED, THERE'S A CREEK THAT RUNS THROUGH THERE. THAT WILL REMAIN AND PROVIDE A VERY APPROPRIATE NATURAL TRANSITION BETWEEN COMMERCIAL TO DUPLEX-STYLE LIVING TO SINGLE FAMILY LIVING.

WITH IT, WE'VE LOOKED AT THE IMPACT OF TRAFFIC, AND WE'LL GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THAT LATER. THIS PROVIDES THE -- THE LEAST AMOUNT OF DAILY TRAFFIC IMPACT, WHICH IS -- INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO THE RESIDENTS, FROM OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ON THIS, THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THEY CARE DEEPLY ABOUT, AND IT ALIGNS WITH OUR OBJECTIVES, AS WELSH JUST LIKE THE TREE COMMENTS, PRESERVING THE VEGETATION.

HERE'S AN EXERCISE WE DID BETWEEN THE THREE POTENTIAL USES OF THE SITE, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

YOU CAN BUILD APPROXIMATELY 46 HOMES BASED ON THE CURRENT ZONING. BASED ON OUR ESTIMATES AND THE TAX COMPS, CURRENTLY WITHIN DALLAS COUNTY AND CITY OF ROWLETT, IT WOULD GENERATE $400,000.

WE ALSO LOOKED AT COMMERCIAL. WE HAD HEARD THIS, NOT ONLY WOULD COMMERCIAL DESTROY ALL OF THE TREES WITH PARKING AND BIG BOX RETAIL, BUT IT WOULD ALSO ACTUALLY GENERATE A -- A LESSER DEGREE OF ANNUAL TAXES. BASED ON CURRENT COMPS IN THE CITY OF ROWLETT, ON A 13- ACRE SITE, YOU CAN PROBABLY BUILD ABOUT 175 SQUARE FOOT BIG BOX RETAIL. WHEN YOU TAKE IN THE CURRENT ASSESSMENT TRENDS FROM DALLAS COUNTY, PLUS THE CITY SALES TAX, WE ESTIMATED, IT'S ABOUT $670,000 OF ANNUAL TAXES, SO -- THIS IS A HUGE GENERATOR OF IMMEDIATE CASH FLOW FOR THE CITY TO GO AND CONTINUE TO ENHANCE WHAT'S GOING ON, AND -- IN THE CITY.

AS WE LOOK AT RESIDENTIAL DUPLEXES, 168 HOMES BASED ON THE CURRENT TRENDS, IT WOULD GENERATE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ANNUAL TAXES.

FAR GREATER THAN THE ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS. ON TOP OF THAT, THE COMMERCIAL USERS, THERE'S -- GIVEN THE ONE-WAY TRAFFIC ALONG THE SERVICE ROAD OF GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE, WE TALKED TO SOME MARKET PARTICIPANTS, IT'S NOT A DESIRABLE SITE FOR THAT. SINGLE FAMILY, COMMERCIAL, DUPLEX- STYLE HOMES NO ONE WANTS INDUSTRIAL OR MANUFACTURING, SO -- WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MIKE, HE CAN GO INTO THE IMPACT STUDIES OF

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TRAFFIC.

>> THANKS, TY. YES, MY NAME IS MIKE MARTINI, I'M A SIL ENGINEER AND HUNTER IS THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER ON MY TEAM, HE COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT I'M GOING TO SPEAK ON HIS BEHALF WITH SOME OF THESE NUMBERS HERE.

SO, LOOKING AT THIS CHART --

>> EXCUSE ME SIR. WHAT IS YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE?

>> EXCUSE ME. 1004 ROCHESTER WAY, PLANO, TEXAS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> SO, LOOKING AT THE DUPLEX HOUSING OPTION VERSUS SAY A COMMERCIAL TYPE USE, NOT ONLY ISIS LIKE HE MENTIONED, THE TAX DIFFERENCES, BUT I KNOW TRAFFIC IS A BIG CONCERN IN THIS AREA.

OUR -- PROJECT, BEING 168 UNITS CLASSIFIED AS A LOW RISE TYPE WOULD GENERATE ABOUT 1,000 TRIPS PER DAY, SO THAT WOULD BE COMPARED TO KIND OF THE BOTTOM MIDDLE OF THE BOTTOMBOTTOM CHART, WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT 5,500 TRIPS PER DAY VERSUS A, SAY, 150,000 SQUARE FOOT BIG BOX COMMERCIAL, AND THAT'S EVEN LESS, I THINK TY MENTIONED 174,000. SO, IT WOULD BE EVEN MORE THAN 5,500. SO, JUST TO POINT OUT SOME OF THE DIFFERENCES, THIS WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN A USE OF THAT SIZE, SO -- I THINK IF THERE -- THAT WAS THE MAIN POINT FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT.

TY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TOUCH ON ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THAT CONCLUDES YOUR PRESENTATION?

>> YES.

>> WOW. COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? MR. POLLARD?

>> AH, YES. TO THE FIRST SPEAK ER OKAY, SO -- YOU'VE SUBMITTED ONE BEDROOM, TWO BEDROOM, THREE BEDROOM UNITS, RIGHT? SO, WHAT DO YOU FORESEE IS THE PRICE OF A ONE-BEDROOM?

>> SURE, SO ON -- WE'VE GOT A BREAKDOWN ON PAGE EIGHT OF THIS --

>> GO BACK TO THE --

>> I CAN ACTUALLY -- THERE WE GO, I CAN GO BACK.

SO, HERE'S THE EXPECTATIONS FROM OUR SMALLEST UNIT, ANYWHERE FROM $1,800 PER MONTH TO $2,700 PER MONTH ON OUR LARGER --

>> THESE ARE RENTAL UNITS, NOT BUY THEM?

>> CORRECT. YES, IT'S A SINGLE PLATT, WITH 168 DUPLEX HOMES.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

>> SO, IF, FOR -- FOR THE SAKE OF CONTEXT, THE AVERAGE RENT IN ROWLETT RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT $1,500, JUST UNDER.

AND IT'S A, YOU KNOW, 35% TO 45% PREMIUM ABOVE THE CURRENT RENTAL MARKET.

>> AND YOU SAY THESE ARE

PREMIUM, RIGHT? >> CORRECT.

>> I APOLOGIZE THAT I WAS LOOKING AT SOMETHING ELSE .

THE FIRST PICTURE ON THIS PARTICULAR SCREEN --

>> UH-HUH.

>> THAT'S WALK- IN SHOWER, RIGHT?

>> CORRECT.

>> WITH A STOOL, A WOODEN SEPARATE STOOL --

>> THAT'S JUST -- THAT'S OUR MODEL UNIT, SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO -- THAT'S NOT PERMANENT, THAT'S NOT A FIXTURE.

>> RIGHT. NOTHING BUILT IN, AS FAR AS A SEAT OR -- OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

>> IT'S TEAKWOOD.

>> ALL RIGHT, SO -- YOU DROPPED 12 UNITS FROM 180 TO 168, OR 7%, RIGHT?

>> CORRECT.

>> OKAY. AND DID I NOTICE IN HERE SOMEWHERE THAT REPLACEMENT OF OF ESCROW FEES, THE PROPOSED TREE MITIGATION FEE, NO TREE MITIGATION FEES WILL BE REQUIRED ON THE TRACKS, IS THAT YOUR

REQUEST? >> THAT IS THE REQUEST.

UH-HUH. >> OKAY.

>> EXPLAIN THE HARDSHIP.

>> WELL, IT'S JUST GIVEN THE ECONOMICS WITH IT.

IT IS ULTIMATELY A -- A LARGE PROJECT AND THE CURRENT FEES -- WE'VE NEVER PAID FEES LIKE THIS BEFORE , AND WE'VE DONE 11 IN

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DFW, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE EVER COME ACROSS THIS --

>> WELCOME TO ROWLETT. >> YEAH.

BUT WITH THAT, WE ARE -- ULTIMATELY, WE'RE A NET POSITIVE 12 TOTAL TREES IN ADDITION TO OUR PLAN RIGHT NOW. SO, IT'S REQUIRED, I THINK 170, AND WE'RE 12 -- 182, ABOVE THAT,

SO -- >> ON 21 CANOPY TREES IS WHAT THE -- IS REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE. AND YOU WANT TO SUBSTITUTE 11 ORNAMENTAL TREES, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> CORRECT. >> OF

THE 21. >> UH-HUH.

>> YOU ARE ONLY WANTING TO PUT TEN ORNAMENTAL TREES IN?

>> CORRECT.

>> AND DISPOSE OF 11? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO SUBSTITUTE THEM?

>> I'M SORRY.

>> THE 11 THAT YOU WANT TO SUBSTITUTE, WHAT ARE YOUYOU TO USE --

>> WHAT KIND OF TREE? >> YEAH.

>> I CAN ASK MY EXPERTS OVER HERE, BECAUSE -- DO WE HAVE A PROGRAMMED --

>> YES, WE DID INCLUDE A LANDSCAPE PLAN WITH THE SUBMISSION, SO, I GUESS , IS THERE A SPECIFIC AREA THAT YOU'RE MENTIONING OR JUST REFERENCES

TOTAL TREES? >> NO, YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO SUBSTITUTE 11 ORNAMENTAL TREES OF THE THE 21, WHAT'S THE SUBSTITUTION? WHAT KIND OF TREE GOES IN ITS PLACE OR WHAT?

>> AH, THERE'S A LIST OF FOUR DIFFERENT SPECIES OF TREES THAT WOULD BE CLASSIFIED BY --

>> THEY WERE SO SMALL, I COULD NOT READ THEM.

>> OH, ON THE BOTTOM HERE. YOU KNOW, I'M -- FULL DISCLOSURE, I'M NOT A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, BUT TEXAS MOUNTAIN LAW, RED BUD, CREPE YRTLE THAT WERE A FEW

MENTIONED HERE. >> ALL RIGHT.

AND THE SCREENING WALL, YOU WANT TO DISPOSE OF A MASONRY SCREENING WALL OR LIVING SCREENING WALL FOR SIX-FOOT WOOD FENCE, IS THAT CORRECT? WHY?

>> ULTIMATELY, IT'S TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR RESIDENTS, AND THAT'S -- WE HAVE FOUND THAT BOARD ON BOARD WOOD CAN BE EXECUTED JUST AS -- AS EFFECTIVELY AS, LIKE, A MASONRY SCREENING, AND SO ULTIMATELY, IT DOESN'T DRIVE ANY TYPE OF VALUE OR ADDITION TO -- TO THE SITE. WE PUT THOSE DOLLARS ELSEWHERE IN BEAUTIFYING IT.

>> OKAY. AND THEN PARKING.

SO, OUR ORDINANCE REQUIRES 1.5 AND YOU WANT TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> WE -- WE HAVE -- OH, FOR THE ONE-BEDROOM UNITS.

>> FOR THE ONE-BEDROOMS, YEAH.

>> OKAY.

>> NOW, IN A LETTER FROM ONM, DATED JUNE 16, 2025, YOU SAY THAT YOUR MISSION IS TO ESTABLISH SAFETY, ACCESSIBLE, MAINTENANCE FREE LIFESTYLES FOR RESIDENTS THROUGH COTTAGE STYLE BUILD TO RENT HOUSING.

AND THEN YOU GO ON THE NEXT PHOTOGRAPH PARAGRAPH THAT YOU OFF ER ATTRACTIVE FEATURES WITHOUT THE LIABILITY OR MANT NEPS.MAINTENANCE. I CAN UNDERSTAND THESE ARE RENTAL UNITS, SO, THE MAINTENANCE WOULD BE YOURS. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ABOUT THE LIABILITY?

>> FROM JUST -- WELL, WE CALL THIS ALL EFFORTLESS LIVING.

SO, A RESIDENT CAN LIVE THERE AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT INSURANCE, TAXES, TRASH, LANDSCAPE, BECAUSE IT'S ALL PROFESSIONALLY MANAGED, SO, ULTIMATELY, THAT'S -- WE HAVE THE -- IT'S ULTIMATELY AN INSURANCE POLICY THAT --

>> YOU CARRY LIABILITY FOR YOUR TENANTS, AS WELL?

>> FOR THE REAL ESTATE ITSELF, BUT THEY -- WE OFFER RENTERS INSURANCE THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE. ON THEIR PERSONAL PROPERTY.

>> AND I ASSUME PERSONAL LIABILITY.

>> UH-HUH.

>> ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME,

THAT'S IT. >> MR. HERNANDEZ?

>> JUST KIND OF CURIOUS, OKAY, SO -- YOU DID SOME SOME COMPARISONS WITH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.

BUT DID YOU DO MIXED USE? COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL

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TOGETHER? FEWER RESIDENTIAL, BUT ACTUALLY STYLE CORNER MARKETS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?

>> WE DID NOT.

BUT IT WOULD STILL DRIVE THE TAXES LESS THAN, IS THAT WHAT --

>> NO, I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT A, TRAFFIC, AND THEN B, JUST, THE DENSITY OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

>> UH-HUH.

>> BECAUSE THE AREA IN ITSELF IS IS -- IS OBVIOUSLY JUST SOUTH OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, IF ANYBODY NEEDS TO GET TO INTERSTATE 30, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT MEANS THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THE ALREADY OVERLOADED 66 GEORGE BUSH INTERSECTION, YOU KNOW, SO, IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, 168 UNITS.

THAT'S A LOT OF TRAVEL ON THAT SECTION. AND THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS, THAT MEANS THAT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT ANY KIND OF COMMERCIAL IN THAT AREA, THAT MEANS EVERYBODY HAS TO DRIVE TO SOMETHING.

SO, THERE'S NO WALKABILITY, EVEN IN THE SLIGHTEST, TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.

TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE IS BASICALLY A DECONSTRUCTED APARTMENT BUILDING. I'M SEEING, YEAH, THEY'RE TINY HOMES, YOU SAID HERE, I THINK THE SMALLEST ONE YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD IS 673 SQUARE FEET, BUT -- I MEAN, THAT'S BASICALLY IT.

I DON'T -- I'M NOT SEEING A LOT MORE VALUE OTHER THAN -- THAN THIS.

>> SO FIRST OFF ON JUST THE VALUE OF THE ACTUAL HOME ITSELF, OUR TARGET RESIDENT WANTS A BACKYARD. THEY CAN'T GET THAT IN A TRADITIONAL MULTIFAMILY HOME. OR AT THIS PRICE POINT, IF THEY CAN'T AFFORD A HOME, IT OFFERS THEM THIS BLENDED EXPERIENCE. AND SO, THE BACKYARD, 100% OF OUR BACKYARDS -- 100% OF OUR HOMES HAVE BACKYARDS. THAT IS THE PRIMARY DIFFERENTIATION WITH IT. THEN, YOU LAYER IN THE PROFESSIONAL MANAGEMENT PIECE TO IT, WHERE IT'S HANDS-OFF. WE HAVE ABOUT A THIRD OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE RENTERS BY CHOICE, MEANING THEY CAN GO BUY A HOME, BUT THEY JUST LIKE THE -- THE EASE OF THIS TYPE OF LIVING WHILE HAVING A -- MORE OF A SINGLE FAMILY HOME EXPERIENCE, AND THE REMAINING RESIDENTS ARE RESIDENTS BY NEED, BUT ALSO, THEY CAN'T AFFORD A HOME. AT THIS PRICE POINT, YOUR AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS ABOUT -- JUST UNDER $80,000, BASED ON OUR SCREENING REQUIREMENTS.

AND OUR OTHER COMMUNITIES, WE HAVE ROUGHLY 20% OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT ARE ABOVE $100,000, AND IT'S MEETING A NEED THAT JUST DOES NOT EXIST IN THE MARKETPLACE.

FROM A QUALITY STANDPOINT, WE'D BE HAPPY TO TOUR YOU ALL ATAT OF OUR CURRENT PROPERTIES, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LIVE AND FEEL LIKE A DECONSTRUCTED APARTMENT. IT, FOR US, THE EXPERIENCE COMPONENT IS SO IMPORTANT , BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT DRAWS THEM THERE, IT'S HOW YOU MAKE THEM FEEL, NOT HOW MANYMANY YOU CAN JUST SQUEEZE IN THERE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE STAY AWAY FROM.

AND THEN, FROM THE QUESTION AROUND BLENDING, A MIXED USE, WE -- WE DID NOT CONSIDER THAT, PRIMARILY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF COMMERCIAL USER WOULD ACTUALLY GO IN THERE.

BECAUSE OF THE LIMITED ACCESS. WHEN YOU HAVE -- IT'S ONLY NORTHBOUND SERVICE ROAD ALONG GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE. ANY TIME OF RETAILER WOULD REQUIRE MULTIPLE ACCESS POINTS TO MULTIPLE THOROUGHFARES.

NO ONE'S BUILDING OFFICE SPACE RIGHT NOW.

THAT IS -- THERE IS ZERO DEMAND FOR THAT.÷÷AND SO, IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT IT FROM , LIKE, A MIXED USE, IT STILL IS GOING TO -- IT WILL INCREASE TRAFFIC AND REDUCE TAXES .

>> WELL, I'M -- WHAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE IS, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE HOUSES THAT ARE CLOSEST TO GEORGE BUSH, TO THAT ACCESS ROAD, IF THEY WERE, LIKE, SMALL RETAIL , LIKE, I SAID, LIKE A BODEGA GROCERY STORE, A SMALL RESTAURANT, STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT COULD ACTUALLY PROVIDE SOME KIND OF WALK ABILITY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY WOULD LIVE THERE. AND NOT TO MENTION DRAW PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, FROM OTHER PLACES THAT WOULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING IN AND OUT OF THERE TO BEGIN WITH, BECAUSE THERE'S FEWER RESIDENTS, AND THEN, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WHO IS ACTUALLY GOING TO THESE PLACES? INSTEAD OF FORCING EVERYBODY NOW TO HAVE TO HAVE A CAR TO GET SOMEWHERE. SO, THAT'S -- THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT THERE. AS A MIXED RESIDENTIAL , IT COULD -- I THINK IT WOULD PROVIDE AT LEAST SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT BETTER, ESPECIALLY BEING SO CLOSE TO THAT HIGHWAY.

>> I DON'T THINK THERE'S EVER BEEN ANY CONVERSATIONS

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WITH PROSPECTIVE GROCER, COFFEE. I JUST DON'T -- I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW IF THERE'S ACTUAL TENANTS THAT ARE -- WANT TO BE ON A ONE-WAY ROAD.

AND I -- THAT'S WHERE WE'VE TALKED TO A NUMBER OF COMMERCIAL GROUPS, AND , LIKE, IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THE HIGHWAY, THAT TARGET HAS ACCESS TO BOTH GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE AND LAKEVIEW PARKWAY.

THIS SITE DOES NOT OFFER THAT. AND ACCESS DRIVES EVERYTHING FOR THE RETAILERS.

>> TO BE FAIR, THAT KIND OF -- THAT KIND OF MAKES AN ARGUMENT AGAINST THIS, TOO.

>> IN WHAT WAY?

>> BEING THAT IT'S A ONE- WAY ACCESS WITH THIS MANY RESIDENTIAL UNITS, THAT DOES SPEAK A LITTLE BIT NEGATIVELY AGAINST THE IDEA OF THIS.

>> BUT I WOULD -- I WOULD DEFER TO THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT INDICATES IT'S ACTUALLY THE LOWEST IMPACT ON TRAFFIC.

>> TRAFFIC STUDIES ARE -- I TAKE THEM WITH A BIT OF A GRAIN OF SALT THERE, BECAUSE THE FACT IS, THESE, LIKE I SAID, THE RESIDENTS, IF THEY HAVE TO GO TO 30, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A BIG U-TURN THERE.

OR GO FURTHER DOWN TO GET TO THE -- TO GET TO THE --

>> THERE'S AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IN SOUTH ROWLETT THAT HAS THIS EXACT SAME CONDITION, WHERE IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE ON THE SOUTH OF ROWLETT. WE DID A STUDY TO SEE THE IMPACT ON RENTS, IF THAT LARGE U- TURN INCONVENIENCE IMPACTS THE -- THE RENTS, WHICH SHOWS THEIR DEMAND, AND IT DIDN'T. BECAUSE IT'S LESS THAN -- IT'S

LESS THAN A MILE. >> I THINK THE ISSUE HERE IS THE 66 INTERSECTION.

WHERE AS, I THINK, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE COMPLEX YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THEY'RE BASICALLY HAVING TO DO A U-TURN AT MILLER.

WHERE AS THIS ONE IS GOING TO HAVE TO DO A U- TURN AT LIBERTY GROVE TO GET BACK TO 66.

>> UH-HUH.

>> OR LIKE I SAID, CONTINUE ON TO THAT INDUSTRIAL AREA AND HAVE TO DO A U- TURN AT MERIT, JUST TO GET ON GEORGE BUSH.

>> WOULDN'T ALL USES -- WHETHER IT'S A CHURCH OR A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD OR AN APARTMENT, WOULD IT NOT -- ISN'T EVERYBODY IMPACTING BY THAT U-TURN?

>> THEY WOULD BE. >> OKAY.

>> BUT IT WOULD BE IMPACTED IN A DIFFERENT FREQUENCY LEVEL.

>> YES.

>> GO TO CHURCH, MAYBE ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK VERSUS GOING HOME EVERY DAY.

>> WELL, CHURCH BY EXAMPLE --

>> YEAH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR

NOW. >> MISS WEISS?

>> YES, I'M HEARING IN THE CONVERSATION ABOUT COMMERCIAL VERSUS HIGH DENSITY THAT THE FACT IS, WE'RE BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO THIS MULTIFAMILY AND THIS CITY PUTS TOGETHER A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SO THAT THE PLANNERS AND THE ENGINEERS CAN BE OUT AHEAD OF STORM SEWER, SANITARY SEWER, SCHOOL DISTRICTS PLAN, SO, TO JUST COME IN AND HAVE US CHANGE THAT OVERNIGHT -- I -- MAYBE IT'S A QUESTION FOR STAFF, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THE $800,000 OF TAX REVENUES OVERNIGHT GOING TO SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS, I MEAN, WE HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS IN THE CITY OF ROWLETT WITH JUST ACCOMMODATING OUR OWN GROWTH WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO, I GUESS IT'S MORE OF A STATEMENT THAN A QUESTION, THAT I -- A LOT OF TIMES TRY TO KEEP WITHIN THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BECAUSE THAT'S A PLANNING DOCUMENT FOR LONG- TERM , AND, YOU KNOW, I TALK TO CITIES LIKE THE FASTEST GROWING IN THE AREA, COLIN COUNTY, I'M ALL OVER TALKING WITH DEVELOPERS, HIGH DENSITY, HIGHER DENSITY THAN PLANNED, AND THEN THE CITY, THEN THEY'RE GONE, AND THE CITY IS WORKING TO PROVIDE SERVICES THAT EVERYONE , YOU SAID, THEY WANT A HANDS- OFF EXPERIENCE, I'M SURE WE ALL DO, TO HAVE WATER, SEWER, AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS FOR OUR KIDS, SO -- THAT'S MY CONCERN. I GUESS THAT'S MORE OF A STATEMENT. ON MY POSITION.

>> OKAY, MY -- MY TURN. YOU MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING THAT THIS WAS AN INTERIVE PROCESS AND THAT YOU ENGAGED THE RESIDENTS OF ROWLETT.

IN FACT, YOU EVEN TOLD ME YOU WALKED FLAMINGO AND KNOCKED ON DOORS.

HOW MANY PEOPLE DID YOU TALK TO DOWN THERE?

>> THERE WERE 18 HOMES THAT ANSWERED.

>> OF THOSE 18, DID ANY -- DID ANYBODY STAND UP AND GO, OH, YEAH, I LIKE THAT IDEA?

>> YES, WE HAD NINE --

>> REALLY?

>> OFFICIALLY SAY IT.

TWO OBJECTED. AND THE REMAINING NUMBER, THERE WAS A WIDE RANGE OF FEEDBACK. IT'S INTERESTING, BECAUSE A

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LOT OF THEM WERE LIKE, WE WOULD -- WE WOULD AGREE TO THIS, BUT I DON'T -- I DON'T KNOW -- I DON'T WANT THE NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR TO KNOW I SUPPORT THIS, AND THIS IS BETTER USE. SO, WE DID -- WE HAD 18.

AND I WAS HANDING OUT MY CELL PHONE NUMBER AND I'VE BEEN TEXTING WITH THEM MANY OF THEM ANSWERING QUESTIONS AND PROVIDEING CONTEXT, BECAUSE THIS IS -- TO YOUR POINT ON CITY PLANNING, IT'S A -- IT'S A CONCEPT THAT'S COME TO THE SURFACE OVER THE LAST 12 TO 14 YEARS, STARTED IN PHOENIX, MOVED TO DFW, AND THE CODE JUST DOESN'T EXIST, BECAUSE BETWEEN WHICH LEADS TO OUR RANGE OF VARIANCE. IT'S US TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, HOW CAN WE TAKE BASE ZONING AND TRY TO BLEND IT TOGETHER TO MEET A DIFFERENT NEED? AND THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT IT IS, BUT YES, THAT'S -- WE SPOKE WITH THEM AND HOSTED THE EVENT ON -- IN MARCH UP AT THE REC CENTER AND JUST KIND OF A MEET AND GREET.

>> OUT OF CURIOSITY, HOW MANY PEOPLE ATTENDED THAT?

>> ONE. BUT WE HANDED OUT FLYERS THROUGHOUT ALL OF MARINER PARK, IT WAS -- I KNOW IT WAS ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE, REACHED OUT TO THE HEAD OF HOAS, AND ONE GENTLEMAN CAME AND HE ACTUALLY SAID, I LOVE THIS. AND THIS IS WAY BETTER THAN TRADITIONAL MULTIFAMILY, WHICH I KNOW THAT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE. WE'VE ALL COME TO AGREE THAT THERE'S -- I -- I DON'T KNOW OF ANY SINGLESINGLE DEVELOPERS THAT WOULD COME IN HERE AND DO LARGE, YOU KNOW, MILLION DOLLAR HOMES ADJACENT TO THE HIGHWAY NEXT TO COVINGTON'S, THAT'S WHY THE CREEK AND THE TREES ARE THAT NATURAL BARRIER. BUT WE -- WE'VE BEEN -- WE'VE BEEN ENGAGED FOR QUITE AWHILE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MISS WILLIAMS?

>> I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW YOU ARRIVED A THE TAX REVENUE DOLLARS? YOU SAID THAT YOUR DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE VALUED AT $35,280,000, RIGHT, FOR 168 UNITS.

SO, THAT'S AN AVERAGE TAX VALUE OF $210,000 PER UNIT.

WHAT IS THE LOT SIZE OF THE DUPLEX?

>> IT'S HARD TO SAY THAT, JUST BECAUSE IT'S A SINGLE PLATT. SO, WE DON'T HAVE DEFINED LOTS IN THERE.

BUT THE FOOTPRINT OF EACH BUILDING , BECAUSE IT'S -- THE FOOTPRINT OF EACH BUILDING IS ABOUT 1800 TO 2,000 SQUARE FEET, SO, YOU HAVE TWO UNITS THERE, WITH A TEN BY TEN BACKYARD. AND THEN THE REST IS COMMON AREA, SO, IT'S -- THERE'S NOT A DEFINED LOT SIZE PER BUILDING. BECAUSE OF THE COMMON SPACE.

>> OKAY. BUT ON THE SF- 10 ZONING, THERE IS DEFINED LOT SIZE OF 10,000 SQUARE FEET.

>> CORRECT.

>> AND THERE'S A MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIREMENT OF 1,800 SQUARE FEET, AND A MAXIMUM OF 4,000 SQUARE FEET. YOU AGREE WITH ME?

>> I'M FOLLOWING.

UH-HUH. >> SO -- BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT -- THE SF- 10 IS ONLY GOING TO BE VALUED AT $17 MILLION, WHICH IS ABOUT HALF OF YOUR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU'RE ARRIVING AT THESE NUMBERS.

>> WHICH -- WHICH NUMBERS IN THE ASSUMPTION AROUND --

>> AROUND THE VALUE, BECAUSE IF I TAKE YOUR $17 MILLION TAXABLE VALUE OF THE SF-10, THEN YOU ARE GIVING EACH HOME THAT'S ON A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT A VALUE OF $375,000. I THINK THAT'S VERY, VERY LOW.

>> OKAY.

>> WHEN YOU'RE GIVING YOUR DUPLEX, I GUESS, A HALF A DUPLEX, A VALUE OF $210,000.

>> UH-HUH.

>> AND THE AVERAGE SQUARE FOOTAGE ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU PRESENTED , IS 900 SQUARE FEET.

SO, EVEN AT YOUR AVERAGE SQUARE FOOTAGE PRICE , WOULD BE $233.33 A SQUARE FOOT.

S BUT FOR THE SF- 10 ZONING, YOU ARE ONLY CONSIDERING $208 A SQUARE FOOT, AND THESE HOMES ARE ON A 10,000 SQUARE- FOOT LOT THAT HAS A TREMENDOUS VALUE.

SO, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW YOU ARRIVE AT THIS VERY LOW

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$375,000 PER LOT IN THE SF- 10

ZONE. >> UH-HUH.

I CAN SEND YOU THE MATH AND THE COMPS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, BECAUSE IT WAS ALL BASED UPON CURRENT TAX ASSESSMENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF ROWLETT THAT HAVE -- THE CURRENT 2025 -- IT WAS PRELIM TAXES AT THAT POINT, THEY'VE BEEN FINALIZED AT THAT POINT, SO, IT WAS BASED UPON THE CURRENT COMPS IN THE CITY OF ROWLETT.

>> BUT --

>> SO, WE APPLIED A PER SQUARE FOOT VALUE ON -- WE APPLIED A PER SQUARE FOOT VALUE TO THE ESTIMATED SIZE OF THE HOME, THAT'S PER SQUARE FOOT VALUE WAS BASED ON THE TAX COMPS CURRENTLY IN PLACE.

>> OKAY, SO, THE SQUARE FOOT VALUE OF YOUR 900 SQUARE FOOT HOME ON A LOT THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT SIZE IT IS, BUT I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN 10,000 SQUARE FEET, YOUR VALUING IT $210,000. BUT A HOME THAT IS TWICE THE SIZE ON A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT, WHICH IS CONSIDERABLE MORE LAND THAN YOUR DUPLEX, YOU'RE ONLY EVALUATING AT $375,000. SO, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, HOW YOU ARE ARRIVING AT THAT $375,000 PRICE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S VERY LOW.

>> OKAY. WELL, THAT'S -- IT'S A FAIR POINT. I WOULD -- I WOULD ADD TO THE DISCREPANCY WITH OUR RESIDENTIAL DUPLEXES IT'S THE -- THE LEVEL OF IMPROVEMENT AT THE SITE , IT'S FAR MORE THAN JUST A LARGE BACKYARD. WE HAVE A LEASING CENTER WITH FITNESS ROOM, PICKLE BALL COURTS, A LARGE COMMUNITY SWIMMING POOL, DOG PARKS.

MONGST THAT VALUE. SO, IT'S NOT TOTALLY APPLES TO APPLES.

THERE ARE ADDITIONAL AMENITIES.

>> BUT CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME IDEA THE SIZE OF THE LOTS THAT THESE DUPLEXES ARE GOING TO BE ON? BECAUSE YOU SAID THEY HAVE VERY LARGE BACKYARDS.

HOW MANY SQUARE FEET ARE YOU -- DO YOU CONSIDER A LARGE BACKYARD?

>> SO, THE BACKYARD -- ON THE DUPLEX HOMES OR THE -- SO, THE DUPLEX HOMES, THERE'S A MINIMUM STANDARD OF TEN BY TEN BACKYARD.

SO, I DIDN'T -- MAYBE I MISSAID -- I NEVER SAID THEY WERE -- THEY'RE NOT THE SAME BACKYARD SIZE AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

BUT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME BACKYARD DOES NOT CARRY THE SAME VALUE AS A FULLY IMPROVED PROJECT. THAT'S -- THAT WAS THE POINT I WAS SUGGESTING.

>> OKAY. AND COMMISSIONER MADE A VERY GOOD POINT ABOUT THE INFRA INFRASTRUCTURE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING -- WE DON'T HAVE THE ROADS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT GOING TO DO TO OUR WATER SUPPLY, WHAT IS GOING TO DO TO OUR SEWAGE SYSTEM, WHAT IS IT GOING TO DO TO STORMWATER MANAGEMENT? WHAT IS IT GOING TO DO TO THE UTILITIES? AND PUBLIC SERVICES. WHAT CONSIDERATION HAVE YOU GIVEN TO ALL OF THOSE AREAS FOR THIS CITY?

>> UH-HUH.

GREAT POINTS. ALL OF THEM, BECAUSE ONE HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR COMMUNITY AND A SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITY IS, WE BUILD THE ROADS AND MAINTAIN THOSE. THAT IS NOT -- THOSE AREN'T TAX DOLLARS ADDING TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE STREETS. WITH IT, IT'S FULLY SECURE, AND IT'S AN ISOLATED OPERATION, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WOULD OCCUR IN THE CITY BURDEN FOR A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> BUT HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAINTAIN THE AESTHETICS OF THE BEAUTIFUL SINGLE HOME COMMUNITY ADJACENT TO THIS? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAINTAIN THE AESTHETICS?

>> SO, THE WAY THAT WE LOOK AT IT, WE ARE AA LONG-TERM HOLD OPERATION.

WE'RE WE DO NOT ASSOCIATE AS A MERCHANT BUILDER.

SO, THAT IMPACTS THE WAY THAT WE CONSTRUCT THESE HOMES.

SO, WE CHOOSE MATERIALS THAT ARE DURABLE, THAT ARE MODERN IN AESTHETICS, AND WITH IT, IT'S PROFESSIONALLY MAINTAINED, SO, WE WOULD HAVE A THIRD PARTY PROPERTY MANAGER TEAM THAT ARE EXPERTS IN THIS FIELD. THREE ON- SITE MANAGERS WITH TWO MAINTENANCE SUPERVISORS THAT ARE THERE YEAR-ROUND.

SO, FOR US, IT'S JUST AS IMPORTANT, SO, IF YOU WANT -- AND IT KIND OF GOES BACK TOTO MY COMMENTS EARLIER ON THE IMPORTANCE FOR OUR RESIDENT TO STAY THERE FOR AN EXTENDED, LIKE, A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. THREE YEARS OR

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MORE. THESE ARE ELEMENTS THAT ARE INTEGRATED INTO THE DESIGN, AS OPPOSED TO A, LET'S SAY A GROUP FROM CALIFORNIA COMES IN, BUILDS IT AND THEN THEY'RE OUT.

THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE RAMIFICATIONS OF HOW THEY DESIGN IT, HOW THEY MAINTAIN IT.

THE ATTENTION TO THE QUALITY OF CONSTRUCTION.

>> BUT ALLY, DUPLEXES ARE DIFFERENT FROM SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. TO ME, THERE SEEMS TO BE A VISUAL DISHARMONY THAT'S GOING TO BE CREATED. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO OVERCOME THAT VISUAL DISHARMONY?

>> SO, ONE OF THE BIGGEST DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT WE DO ON OUR FRONT ELEVATIONS IS THE PLACEMENT OF THE FRONT DOOR. WE NEVER HAVE TWO FRONT DOORS NEXT TO EACH OTHER, STREET FACING. AND IF YOU ARE AT ANY ANGLE OF THE COMMUNITY, YOU ARE ONLY SEEING ONE FRONT DOOR, SO, IT DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE A DUPLEX-STYLE HOME.

IT ACTUALLY GIVES THE VISUALVISUAL IMPACT OF A -- OF A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, BASED ON THE FRONT

>> BUT IT IS A DUPLEX.

>> IT IS. ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH. >> YOU KNOW, I THINK -- YOU FACE SOME -- A LOT OF CHALLENGES, ONE WITH THE VISUAL DISHARMONY, TWO WITH TRAFFIC, HREE WITH ALL THE --

>> MISS WILLIAMS? COULD YOU GO AHEAD AND HIT YOUR RTS? HIT YOUR RTS.

>> THERE YOU GO. COULD YOU GO THROUGH THAT LIST AGAIN. HARMONY AND INFRASTRUCTURE?

>> AND THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, THE SEWER, THE TRAFFIC, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF CHALLENGES. YOU KNOW?

>> I GUESS -- I COMPLETELY -- WHAT DO YOU THINK A BETTER USE WOULD BE?

>> LEAVING ZONER AS IT IS.

>> DO YOU THINK THERE'S A BUYER OUT THERE FOR THAT PROPERTY?

>> WE DON'T NEED TO KNOW THEM.

>> WE DON'T KNOW, BUT WE DO HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND A LOT OF EFFORT WAS PUT INTO THAT SIVE PLAN, WHEN IT WAS DECIDED THAT THIS PROPERTY SHOULD BE SF-10. YOU KNOW, SO -- TO CHANGE IT, I MEAN, SF- 10 WOULD BE ABOUT -- WELL, THREE HOMES PER ACRE.

YOU'RE ASKING FOR, --

>> YEAH, JUST 12. 12 UNITS AN

ACRE. >> 12.6.

>> YOU KNOW, THAT'S -- AUDIOAUDIO.

COMPLETELY -- I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

>> AND WE GOT AN AWFUL LOT OF OPPOSITION, YOU KNOW? THAT'S -- YOU -- YOU SPOKE -- WE HAVE OVER 50 IN OPPOSITION IN -- IN THE COMMUNITY.

>> 50? IS THAT -- WAS THAT THE NUMBER?

>> UH-HUH. OH, IS IT 56?

>> I THOUGHT IT WAS 30, BUT --

>> WELL, THEY -- THEY WERE POURING IN THIS AFTERNOON.

>> NO, I UNDERSTAND. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'VE -- IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR US, WE HAVE MADE EVERY EFFORT TO COLLABORATE WITH THE COMMUNITY, AND FIND A -- A VERY HEALTHY TRADEOFF BETWEEN THE TWO.

AND WE'VE LISTENED, WE'VE ADDED, WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM ALL OF THEM. EVERYONE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AND WE WANTED TO TALK THROUGH IT TOGETHER.

WE ALSO HAD A TON OF SUPPORT IN AGREEMENT TO THIS, AND --

>> I'M SORRY, YOU HAVE TONS OF SUPPORT WHAT?

>> YEAH, WE HAD A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM THE -- FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT'S MOST IMPACTED ALONG FLAMINGO. WHICH I -- I REFERRED TO EARLIER, AND --

>> HOW MANY --

>> WE HAD -- WE TALKED TO 18 HOMES, RESIDENTS.

>> NINE SUPPORTED IT.

>> NINE CAME OUT AND SUPPORT IT.

>> SO, THAT MEANS NINE DIDN'T SUPPORT IT.

>> THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT TRUE. WE HAD TWO THAT OBJECTED TO IT, THE REMAINING SEVEN WERE IN DIFFERENT.

THEY JUST LITERALLY WERE EITHER IN DIFFERENT OR DIDN'T WANT TO AGREE TO IT BECAUSE OF FEAR OF THEIR NEIGHBOR. THE WAY THAT THEY THOUGHT. AND SO, IT'S --

>> WELL, WE GOT AN AWFUL LOT OF OBJECTIONS.

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SO -- I MEAN, OVER 50.

>> I SAW -- OKAY, YES, I HEAR YOU. BUT --

>> I THINK WE'RE BEATING A HORSE.

>> OKAY. WELL, I DON'T HAVE ANYMORE QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, ANYMORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SEEING NONE. THEN I'LL GO AHEAD AND -- THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING.

I'LL HOPE THE PUBLIC HEARING SO THAT WE CAN COMMUNICATE.

ALEX?

>> FIRST PERSON IS JUSTIN MARSTON.

>> IF YOU WOULD CALL WHO IS SECOND AND FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE, PLEASE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.

>> ALLISON?

>> I WOULD ASK THAT -- YOU RESTRICT YOUR REACTIONS TO THE COMMENTS.

>> THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR YOUR GOOD QUESTIONS, GUYS, REALLY AWESOME. I COMMEND YOU, BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE THE FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE, SO, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE TIME. YEAH, A LOT OF THIS STUFF HAS ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED. YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE ACCESSIVE DENSITY.

IT'S ALMOST FOUR TIMES THE AMOUNT.

YOU KNOW, AND AS YOU MENTIONED, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU KNOW, THAT TAKES A LOT , CAREFULLY EVALUATED THROUGH THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND CIRCULATION, NEIGHBORHOOD CONTEXT. YOU KNOW, I KNOW PREVIOUSLY WE HEARD THAT THE STATE OF TEXAS WANTED ALL OF OUR CITIES TO BE MORE DENSE. BUT I REALLY AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE NOT EVERY CITY IS A ONE SIZE FITS ALL THING, AND, YOU KNOW, EACH CITY HAS THEIR OWN CHALLENGES, AND WE NEED TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR ROWLETT. IN OUR CITY.

SEVERAL OF Y'ALL MENTIONED THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT, THE FACT THEY HAVE TO GO BASICALLY TWO MILES FOR A TURNAROUND IF THEY NEED TO GO GET GAS, LIKE THAT SIMPLY.

THE OTHER THING IS, TOO, JUST THE CIRCULATION WITHIN THE SITE ITSELF.

AND UNLESS THEY ARE GOING ACROSS THREE LANES OF TRAFFIC TO GET ONTO GEORGE BUSH ILLEGALLY, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHERE THAT TURN LANE STARTS, THAT'S GOING TO BE A -- THAT POSES A VERY SERIOUS THREAT TO THAT, AND WE ALREADY SEE THAT COMING UP FROM THE QT, JUST GOING ACROSS THREE LANES OF TRAFFIC TO TRY TO GET ONTO GEORGE BUSH.

AND THE OTHER THING IS, TOO, AS FAR AS A YEAR AGO, THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS FOR 75 HOMES IN THE SAME STRETCH, AND THEY SAID THAT THAT WAS GOING TO PRODUCE OVER 700 DAILY TRIPS, SO, I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHERE THE 1,000 DAILY TRIPS COMES FROM, WHEN YOU HAVE OVER 300 , YOU KNOW, CARS, BASICALLY, ONE CAR PER ROOM, I BELIEVE, IS WHAT THEY SAID. YEAH, THE OTHER THING, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT IS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, TREE PRESERVATION.

I THOUGHT WE WERE A CITY THAT REALLY DEEPLY CARES ABOUT THIS, AND YOU KNOW, DUE TO THE FINANCIAL HARDSHIP, NO TREE MITIGATION IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED? THAT WAS ACTUALLY OFFENSIVE TO ME.

YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE MY WATER BILL IS KIND OF HIGH AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I SHOULD JUST NOT PAY IT ANYMORE. SO, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THAT THE CITY WOULD BE LOSING OUT ON, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER , AND, YOU KNOW, AS A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT I SOMETIMES HAVE TO BE REMINDED THAT SOMETIMES WE HAVE -- WE HAVE THE RIGHT TREE IN THE WRONG PLACE.

AND SOMETIMES , YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T PLANT THAT TYPE OF TREE, BUT MAYBE WE JUST NEED TO PUT IT IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION AND I -- I ACTUALLY VALUE THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOME OPPORTUNITIES THAT THIS WOULD PRESENT, BUT THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT AREA, BECAUSE OF ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND EVERYTHING IF -- BUT AGAIN, IF THE TREES, IF THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR THE TREE MITIGATION, MAYBE THEY COULD NEXT AND ON DECK? THE CURRENT SF-10 ZONING ALLOWS FOR 50 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AFTER STREETS AND UTILITIES ARE CONSIDERED. THAT IS WHAT THE SITE WAS PLANNED TO HANDLE. THE APPLICANT IS ASKING TO MORE THAN TRIPLE THAT NUMBER, SQUEEZING IN 168 DUPLEX HOES ON JUST 13 ACRES.

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WHERE ARE ALL OF THESE PEOPLE GOING TO PARK? THIS IS NOT SMART PLANNING, IT'S OVERBIDDING AND IT BLATANTLY CONFLICTS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WAS CAREFULLY CRAFTED TO GUY ROWLETT'S FUTURE. SECOND, TRAFFIC AND CIRCULATION, THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD GENERATE THOUSANDS OF DAILY TRIPS FUNNELED DIRECTLY ONTO THE ALREADY CONGESTED BUSH TURNPIKE THAT SERVICE ROAD AND 66. THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY IN AND OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. I URGE YOUR BOARD TO VISIT LIBLERTY GROVE AND 190 DURING RUSH HOUR.

I KNOW MANY OF YOU PROBABLY LIVE IN THAT DIRECTION.

THIS INTERNAL DESIGN RELIES ON HAMMERHEAD TURNARONDS AND POOR CIRCULATION. EVEN WORSE, THE SOUTHERN ACCESS ROAD ENCOURAGING ILLEGAL RIGHT TURNS ONTO BUSH, A DIRECT THREAT TO PUBLIC SAFETY. IT ISN'T SPECULATION, IT'S INEVITABLE. THIRD, ENVIRONMENTAL RESPONSIBILITY. THE DEVELOPER IS ASKING FOR RELIEF FROM TREE MITIGATION. ROWLETT'S TREE PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS ARE NOT OPTIONAL.

THEY EXIST TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY CHARACTER AND TO ENSURE THAT DEVELOPERS CARRY THEIR SHARE OF THE RESPONSIBILITY. IF YOU GRANT THIS EXEMPTION, YOU SET A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT. TELLING DEVELOPERS THEY CAN BULLDOZE 13 ACRES AND WALK AWAY WITHOUT ACCOUNTABLE. LET ME BE CLEAR, ROWLETT IS NOT GROWTH, BUT GROWTH MUST BE RESPONSIBLE, SUSTAINABLE, AND IN LINE WITH OUR EXISTING CITY PLAN.

THE CURRENT ZONING ALREADY ALLOWS FOR TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD OF 50 HOMES, AND THAT'S A FAIR BALANCE. THAT'S WHAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND VEERMENTAL CAPACITY OF THE SITE CAN SUPPORT. THE PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF YOU IS EXCESSIVE. IT'S UNSAFE AND UNCONSISTENT WITH ROWLETT'S VISION FOR THE FUTURE AND IT WOULD DEGRADE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THOSE OF US WHO ALREADY LIVE HERE.

FOR THESE REASONS, I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND UPHOLD OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND DENY THIS ZONING REQUEST THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND COMMITMENT TO KEEP ROWLETT A SAFE AND RESPONSIBLE PLACE TO LIVE, AND ALSO, THE SEWER PROJECT, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY IS DRIVING DOWN LIBERTY GROVE RIGHT NOW, IT'S A LOT

BETTER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> HI THERE.

THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WASN'T MENTIONED HERE TONIGHT , THE WAREHOUSE DOWN THE FRONTAGE ROAD THAT WAS APPROVED YEARS AGO IS BUILT , THERE'S ONLY ONE TENANT IN IT, THE 18- WHEELERS AND THE OTHER EMPLOYEES THAT ARE USING THAT, IT'S NOT -- THAT TRAFFIC HASN'T EVEN BUILT OUT YET, MUCH LESS ADDING TO THIS. I USE GEORGE BUSH EVERY DAY, AND LIBERTY GROVE EVERY DAY.

BECAUSE THAT'S JUST WHAT WE HAVE.

LIBERTY GROVE IS ONEONE EACH WAY, IT'S ALREADY TOO TINY.

IT SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN OPENED UP.

THE OTHER THING WITH THE GENTLEMAN SPEAKING ABOUT DOING AWAY WITH THE SCREENING WALLS AND FOR FENCES, ROWLETT HAS A MAJOR PROBLEM RIGHT NOW WITH SCREENING WALLS THAT ARE NOT UP TO CODE IN OLDER HOMES. I MEAN, I JUST DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF FAITH RIGHT NOW IN THE CITY.

THE FENCES THAT ARE NOT UP TO CODE.

UM -- THE TRAFFIC INSIDE THIS AREA WITH THE PARKING SPACES THAT ARE -- THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR , AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO LIVE IN HERE , I PROMISE YOU, THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE -- THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME OF THESE PLACES THAT HAVE MORE THAN ONE FAMILY LIVING IN THEM.

EVEN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TROUBLE WITH THE FIRE ENGINE GETTING DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE OF THE STREET PARK, WHICH HASN'T EVEN, YOU KNOW, BEEN MENTIONED IN THIS SITUATION. THIS NEEDS TO BE DENIED.

AND STAY WITH THE CODE. IT WAS WRITTEN FOR A PURPOSE, JUST ENFORCE IT. IF IT DOESN'T FIT FOR THEM, THEY CAN GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

SOMEBODY ONE DAY WILL BUY IT, BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? WE'RE NOT MAKING ANYMORE DIRT. WE HAVE WHAT WE HAVE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE. PLEASE.

INACTION IS ACCEPTANCE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> NEXT SPEAKER IS SAMANTHA CHANDLER, FOLLOWED BY JAMES .

>> HELLO, EVERYBODY. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS AND CHAIRMAN. MY NAME IS SAMANTHA CHANDLER AND I LIVE AT 6513ER THE ER ER ER ER THE TERESA LANE, AND I'VE LIVED IN ROWLETT FOR 32 YEARS.

I HAVE GROWN UP TO GOING TO JSU DISTRICT.

I HAVE A SON WHO IS 12 YEARS OLD AND HE'S GROWINGUP AS WELL IN ROWLETT RIGHT NOW. SO, I'M A SINGLE MOTHER.

AND MY SON IS CURRENTLY ATTENDING MIDDLE SCHOOL.

ROWLETT IS HOME FOR US. I WANT TO SEE IT CONTINUE TO GROW IN WAYS THAT PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FAMILIES LIKE MINE.

I'M HERE TONIGHT TO VOICE MY STRONG SUPPORT FOR REZONING

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REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY ALONG PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH HIGHWAY AND LAKEVIEW PARKWAY. THE PROPOSED DUPLEX- STYLE HOMES WOULD BE EXACTLY THE TYPE OF HOUSING SOMEONE LIKE ME WOULD WANT. SOMETHING MODERN, ATTAINABLE, AND CLOSE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE ALREADY LOVE. IT'S NOT IDEAL FOR ME AND MY 12-YEAR-OLD SON TO LIVE IN AN APARTMENT, AND RIGHT NOW, A HOME WOULD BE TOO MUCH MAINTENANCE FOR ME TO MAINTAIN, GOING FROM FURTHERING MY CAREER AT THE MOMENT AND HANDLING SOCCER PRACTICE.

HOWEVER, SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD GIVE US SPACE AND STABILITY AND A SENSE OF HOME THAT FITS OUR NEEDS FAR BETTER. EVEN THOUGH PRICES CAN SHIFT, WHAT TRULY MATTERS IS THAT ROWLETT CONTINUES TO OFFER ACCESSIBLE HOUSING SOPGSS. RIGHT NOW, CHOICES ARE LIMITED, ESPECIALLY FOR SINGLE PARENTS, YOUNG FAMILIES, AND FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THE UPKEEP AND MAINTENANCE OF A TRADITIONAL HOUSE. AT THE SAME TIME, DUPLEXES BRING A STRONG TAX REVENUE FOR THE CITY, OFTEN MORE PER CRE THAN LARGE SINGLE MILY LOTS.

PLEASE NOTE THAT APPROVING THIS REZONING IS MORE THAN JUST ABOUT LAND USE, IT'S ABOUT INVESTING IN ROWLETT'S FUTURE AND MAKING SURE FAMILIES LIKE MINE CAN LIVE, LEARN, AND THRIVE. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> NEXT SPEAKER, JAMES. AND AFTER THAT WOULD BE GREG.

>> THANK YOU FOR PRONOUNCING THAT CORRECTLY, BY THE WAY. THAT'S -- GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS JAMES, I LIVE AT 6301 PORTER RANCH DRIVE, IN ROWLETT, IN MARINER PARK SUBDIVISION.

TWO THINGS I WANT TO SAY IS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE OF ROWLETT. BECAUSE TOMORROW IS THE EARLIEST IT COULD START. WE'RE OBVIOUSLY TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE OF ROWLETT. AND THE FUTURE OF ROWLETT IS SPELLED OUT VERY WELL IN OUR EVERYTHING, PRINTED ON OUR BOARDS HERE, IN OUR CITY'S PAPERWORK AND ORDINANCES, IT'S SPELLED OUT PRETTY ACCURATELY. I WANT TO ADDRESS TWO THINGS, FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S A LOT OF MISCONCEPTIONS, AND I UNDERSTAND THE DEVELOPER HAS PREPARED SOME THINGS FOR PEOPLE TO COME UP AND READ AND SO FORTH, BUT THESE HOMES ARE NOT FAMILY HOMES. THEY'RE NOT INTENDED TO BE FAMILY HOMES. THESE HOMES HAVE SMALLER BACKYARDS THAN THE CONCRETE PATIO IN THE APARTMENTS THAT I'VE RENTED IN MY LIFE ON THE GROUND FLOOR.

A TEN BY TEN YARD ISN'T EVEN ENOUGH SPACE TO COMFORTABLY SITSIT IN A CHAIR AND GRILL WITH YOUR FAMILY. THESE ARE NOT FAMILY HOMES. BUT WHAT THIS ALL BOILS DOWN TO IS MORE .

ONE WORD EXPLAINS IT ALL. MORE.

THE DEVELOPER WANTS MORE FROM THE PROPERTY.

MORE REVENUE. THE ONLY REASON THE DEVELOPER IS HERE BEFORE US TONIGHT , BEFORE YOU BOARD MEMBERS IS, THEY WANT MORE.

MORE THAN WHAT THE CITY PLANNED FOR. AND THEY'RE ASKING US TO DISREGARD OUR PLANS SO THEY CAN HAVE MORE. AND MAKE MORE.

THERE IS NO OTHER REASON FOR ANY OF US TO BE HERE TONIGHT EXCEPT FOR MONEY.

THE DEVELOPER IS HERE TO MAKE MONEY.

FROM THIS PROJECT. THEY'RE CUTTING CORNERS, MAKING A FOOD FENCE THAT ROWLETT IS GOING TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN AFTERWARDS, WE KNOW THAT'S NOT GOING TO LAST LONG.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE MADE OUT OF THE MATERIAL YOU WOULD HAVE A REPLACEMENT FENCE DONE.

IT'S GOING TO BE DONE BY THE BUILDER AT THE CHEAPEST POSSIBLE COST. EVERYTHING THAT IS HERE TONIGHT IS ASKING ROWLETT TO GIVE UP , CANCEL, DENY, CHANGE OUR PLANS, AND GIVE AND YET THIS COMPANY MAKES MANY, MANY MILLIONS PER QUARTER, IS ASKED TO NOT PAY FOR OUR WHAT OUR CITY REQUIRES FOR TREE ORDINANCE, FOR TREE MITIGATION. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT COMES FROM. SOMEONE WILL BE KILLED, MORE THAN ONCE IT WILL HAPPEN, AT THIS INTERSECTION, BECAUSE OF WHAT THE DEVELOPERS PLAN ON. WE ALL KNOW THAT.

THERE WILL BE ACCIDENTS SOONER OR LATER, A FATALITY ACCIDENT.

NOW WE WANT TO PUT MORE. AND ALL THE NUMBERS GET

MINIMIZED. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> HE'S BATTING A THOUSAND.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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QUESTIONS. I THINK WITH THE TRAFFIC YOU NAILED IT. ESSENTIALLY ADDING MORE HOUSING AT THIS TIME ADDS MORE TRAFFIC DURING PEAK HOURS. BUT I WAS JUST AT THE INTERSECTION -- WELL, I PICK UP MY KIDS ON A DAILY BASIS -- AT 4:15 P.M. I TURN LEFT FROM ROWLETT ROAD.

IT TOOK ME EIGHT MINUTES TO GET THROUGH THE INTERSECTION.

IT TOOK ME EIGHT MINUTES TO GO FROM MARTIN ROAD TO 66TH.

THAT'S RIDICULOUS. THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE.

I HAVE ELDERLY NEIGHBORS.

MEDICAL EMERGENCY. DO NOT HAVE ONE BETWEEN THE HOURS OF -- BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT MAKE IT -- PERSONALLY AS A RESIDENT I FEEL THAT OUR STREET IS PARTICULARLY BEAUTIFUL. AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT THERE, WHICH I THINK THERE IS, NOT JUST THE TREES BUT THE WILDLIFE THAT COMES THROUGH. DEER, BEAVERS.

HAWKS OF ALL VARIETIES . IT'S JUST A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE AND BE CLOSE TO NATURE.

THIS IS ESSENTIALLY ONE OF THE LAST AREAS ADJACENT THAT'S NOT DEVELOPED. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE KEEP IT. PLEASE KEEP SOMETHING SPECIAL ABOUT ROWLETT. PLEASE KEEP SOMETHING SPECIAL ABOUT THIS PLACE SO WE CAN ENJOY SOME NATURAL BEAUTY AND SO MY CHILDREN COULD ENJOY THIS AND THAT MAYBE WE CAN ENJOY IT A LITTLE LESS COMMUTE TIME.

I KNOW THAT THE TREND IS TO PACK THEM IN, PACK AS MANY PEOPLE IN AS WE CAN. BUT LET'S TRYTRY CONTINUE -- THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK.

HOPE YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL EVENING.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER.

>> COME ON UP. COME UP.

SPEAKER CARD, PLEASE, MR. PEREZ.

>> SORRY ABOUTABOUT THAT.

>> YOUR NAME.

>> I'M DION WRIGHT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> BACKS UP TO THE CREEK ON THE NORTH SIDE.

AND I BELIEVE THE INTERFERENCE -- FAVOR OF KEEPING MORE OF THESE AREAS UNDISTURBED BY CONSTRUCTION PROPOSITIONS.

NUMBER TWO, REZONING -- AND TO ADD 168 TO 180 MORE RESIDENTS WITH ALREADY BAD TRAFFIC -- STRONG TIES WITH THE --

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>> THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM.

ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS LIKE TO COMMENT DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING? SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSIONERS.

MR. POLLARD. I WAS GOING TO SAY I PREFER A MOTION.

>> PREFER A MOTION?

>> YEAH. SO WE CAN DISCUSS --

>> I'LL MOVE THAT WE DENY THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. POLLARD TO DENY THE REQUEST.

SECONDED BY MISS WILLIAMS. DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.

>> CAN WE SPEAK?

>> YEAH, YOU CAN PUSH YOUR RTS AND SPEAK.

>> MINE'S ON.

>> OKAY. YOU CAN SPEAK.

>> ALL RIGHT. SEVERAL THINGS HERE.

JUST FOR THE PUBLIC INFORMATION. THAT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY, AND WHOEVER OWNS IT HAS THE RIGHT TO SELL IT.

AND WHOEVER BUYS IT OR OWNS IT NOW OR IN THE FUTURE WILL HAVE A RIGHT TO BUILD ON IT.

SO BECAUSE IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY THE CITY DOESN'T OWN IT. AND WE DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO TELL THEM YOU CAN NEVER SELL OR HAVE ANYTHING BUILT ON THIS. WITH THAT SAID, TO THIS PARTICULAR PIECE THERE IS -- THERE'S MANY THINGS THAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH.

FOR THIS TO BE WHAT I'M GOING TO USE, MY VERBIAGE, NOT THE APPLICANT'S, BUT AN UPSCALE -- FOR THE BUILDINGS I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE PRESENTATION THAT WOULD SELL ME ON THAT THIS IS ANYTHING THAT'S A GREAT DEAL. THE WALK- IN SHOWER DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A BUILT- IN SEAT. THEY HAVE A STOOL.

SO YOU KNOW, THERE'S -- AND I PICK ON THAT FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT MAKES THIS THING AS ADVERTISED IN THE PICTURE PAINTED THERE AS SOMETHING THAT'S -- WE DON'T ALREADY HAVE. FOR THE RENTS TO BE HIGH AND ON THE HIGH END, SO TO SPEAK, AS BILLED, THE BUILDER'S GOING TO MAKE SOME MONEY ON THIS THING, THE DEVELOPER, AND FOR THE LIFE OF ME I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT BECOMES A HARDSHIP THEN IF THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THE RENT'S GOING TO BE HIGHER THAN NORM, THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THINGS THAT ARE MINIMUM STANDARDS.

WE HAVE STANDARDS FOR A REASON. THEY'RE NOT MAXIMUM STANDARDS.

THEY'RE MINIMUM STANDARDS. AND WHEN YOU'RE ASKING, WELL, GEE, I WANT TO SUBSTITUTE THE MAJORITY OF THE CANOPY TREES AND I WANT TO PUT IN A WOOD FENCE VERSUS A MASONRY SCREENING WALL AND I WANT LESS PARKING, WHICH INDICATES YOU'RE DOING A SUBSTANDARD -- YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO LIVE UP WITH WHAT THE MINIMUM STANDARDS ALREADY EXIST.

SO I JUST -- I DON'T SEE ANYTHING REGARDING THE ZONING.

THERE'S A REASON WHY THE ZONING HAS BEEN 10,000-SQUARE- FOOT LOTS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

AND YES, HAS ANYBODY BOUGHT THERE AND PUT IN A SUBDIVISION? NO. BUT HAS THE PROPERTY BEEN FOR SALE ALL THAT TIME? AND THE ANSWER, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT I DOUBT THE CHURCH HAS BEEN UP FOR SALE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. SO YOU'VE GOT TO ENTRANCES IN AND OUT. ALL ONTO THE SAME ROAD.

THERE'S NO CONNECT -- NO CONNECTIONS TO ANYWHERE ELSE TO GET OUT OF THERE. YOU'RE WANTING TO PUT INSTEAD OFOF UNITS PER THE ORDINANCE OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE -- OR FOR

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ACREAGE, I'M SORRY. YOU'RE WANTING TO PUT IN 168 INSTEAD.

I JUST -- OR 12 UNITS. 12 UNITS IS WHAT THEY WANT TO PUT IN PER ACRE INSTEAD OF THREE PER ACRE UNDER A 10,000-SQUARE-FOOT LOT.

SO I JUST -- THERE'S MANY THINGS HERE THAT DON'T ADD UP FOR ME TO BE WILLING TO COMPROMISE AND ALLOW SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T WANT WHEN THE PLANNING TOOK PLACE.

>> ANYONE ELSE COMMENT? WELL, I GUESS YOU WRAPPED THAT UP PRETTY WELL, MR. POLLARD.

I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK THE DEVIATION FROM WHAT WAS IN THE PLAN TO WHAT YOU WANT TO PROVIDE IS TOO LARGE. SO IT WOULD BE PROBABLY HARD TO GET THROUGH. BUT WE'LL SEE.

SEEING NO OTHER COMMENTS, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE VOTE. AND THIS IS A VOTE TO DENY.

>> I THINK I HIT THE WRONG ÚTHING. I WANT TO CHANGE THAT T YES.

>> SORRY.

>> SORRY. I HIT NO. I GUESS WITH MY THUMB.

>> PLEASE. OKAY.

IT'S THE GREEN ONE.

>> YES. I GOT IT.

>> WE'LL CALL THE VOTE. AND THAT DENIAL IS A 6- 0 VOTE.

[4B. Conduct a public hearing and make a recommendation to City Council on a request by Rhyan Weirich, on behalf of property owner John Stone, regarding a Planned Development (PD) Amendment to Planned Development (008-22) to 1) allow the uses College or University and Commercial school by right, and 2) deter from Sec.77-504 (D)(3)(d) which requires landscape islands on an approximate 94.4799 acre lot, classified as Planned Development (008-22) with a Limited Commercial/Retail (C-1) and Light Manufacturing (M-1) base zoning. The subject property is situated at east of the President George Bush Turnpike and north of Liberty Grove Road, in the James Hamilton Survey, Abstract Number 544, in the City of Rowlett, Dallas County, Texas ]

MOVING ON TO ITEM 4-B, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON A REQUEST BY RYAN WEIRICH ON BEOF HA OF PROPERTY OWNER JOHN STONE REGARDING A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 008- 22 TO ONE ALLOW THE USE COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY AND COMMERCIAL SCHOOL BY RIGHT AND TWO DETER -- EXCUSE ME. AND 2, DETER FROM SECTION 77- 504 PARAGRAPH D3- D WHICH REQUIRES LANDSCAPE ISLANDS ON AN APPROXIMATE 94.4799- ACRE LOT CLASSIFIED AS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 008- 22 WITH A LIMITED COMMERCIAL/RETAIL C- 1 AND LIGHT MANUFACTURING M- 1 BASE ZONING.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SITUATED EAST OF THE PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE AND NORTH OF LIBERTY GROVE IN THE JAMES HAMILTON SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 544 IN THE CITY OF ROWLETT, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS.

MR. KING.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT, CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS.

I APPRECIATE THE LONG PREAMBLE TO ALLOW ME TO GET UP HERE.

SO --

>> LOOKING OUT FOR YOU.

>> THIS CASE IS A TEXT AMENDMENT TO PD.

YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS PD. WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE. THIS IS THE PD ALONG PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TOLLWAY. THIS IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR LIGHT MANUFACTURING AND LIMITED COMMERCIAL RETAIL COMMERCIAL USES SPECIFICALLY TO ALLOW THE USES OF COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY AND COMMERCIAL SCHOOL ADULT CAREER EDUCATION TRAINING AND VOCATIONAL SCHOOL BY RIGHT.

IT'S A VARIANT. AND THEY ALSO ARE SEEKING A VARIANCE FROM SECTION 77- 504 77-504 D- 3D WHICH REQUIRED LANDSCAPE ISLANDS IN THE PARKING LOT. SO THIS IS JUST A LESSON IN HOW TO WRITE A PD I THINK ISIS WE'RE LEARNING IN THE END. SO THE SITE IF YOU'RE NOT AWARE IS JUST NORTH OF US AND IT'S ON THE CURVE OF THE GEORGE BUSH ON THE EASTERN SIDE. IT'S 164. 57 ACRES. IT'S PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, LIMITED COMMERCIAL RETAIL, LIGHT MANUFACTURING- BASED ZONING. THE EXISTING BUILDINGS ARE FOR WAREHOUSE USE. THIS AMENDMENT WILL APPLY TO THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT BUT WITH SPECIAL CONSIDERATION TO BUILDING NUMBER 3, WHICH IS RIGHT SMACK IN THE CENTER OFF OF MERIT.

SO A LITTLE BACKGROND ON THIS IS APRIL '22 -- OF 2022

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