Oct 22, 2019 Planning and Zoning Commission Work Session

[CALL TO ORDER]

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> GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE CITY OF ROWLETT PLANNING AND ZONING WORK SESSION FOR TUESDAY, OCTOBER 22, 2019. CALLING THE WORK SESSION AT THIS TIME. I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME OUR VISITORS FROM THE CITY ACADEMY HERE OBSERVING TONIGHT. WELCOME. SOMETIMES WE HAVE BUSY NIGHTS.

TONIGHT IS NOT GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE NIGHTS. WELCOME BACK ANYTIME.

WHENEVER YOU SEE A BIG PROJECT, THAT'S THE TIME TO COME WATCH. WELCOME.

I'M GOING TO CALL TO ORDER. CONGRATULATIONS TO KELLY ON BEING APPOINTED A REGULAR MEMBER. [APPLAUSE] I WANT TO SAY TO THE TWO ALTERNATES, QUINN AND ROBERT, AS I'VE SAID MANY TIMES, AND PEOPLE PAYING ATTENTION ON TV, THAT WHEN SLOTS BECOME AVAILABLE, I CERTAINLY HOPE YOU GUYS WILL BE NEXT UP TO BAT.

I HAVE NEVER HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH BETTER ALTERNATES THAN YOU GUYS.

YOU HAVE BEEN HERE AT ALMOST EVERY MEETING AND CONTRIBUTED AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

I KNOW THE CITIZENS DO, TOO. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> AT THIS TIME, WE WILL

[2A. Administer the Oath of Office and the Statement of Elected/Appointed Officer to the newly and reappointed members and alternate members.]

SUSAN. >> IN YOUR PACKET, THE FIRST PAGE.

ALL SAY IT AT THE SAME TIME. THE SECOND PAGE READ AND SIGN AND THIRD PAGES ARE CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT FOR OPEN RECORDS IF YOU WANT YOUR INFORMATION TO BE PUBLIC OR PRIVATE. IF YOU WANT, WE WILL ALL DO THIS AT THE SAME TIME.

YOU CAN REPEAT AFTER ME. RAISE YOUR HAND. I DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

>> WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

>> OF THE CITY OF ROWLETT AND STATE OF TEXAS. AND TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY

PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND. >> TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND.

>> THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES. JUST SIGN.

>> YOU ARE NOW ALL MEMBERS OF THE U.S. MARINE CORPS. [LAUGHTER]

>> SIGN THE FIRST LINE AND I WILL FILL OUT THE REST OF THAT. I WILL JUST COLLECT THEM LATER

AND GET YOU COPIES BACK. >> FOR THE NEWER FOLKS, MAKE SURE YOU KNOW IF YOU DON'T CHECK THE PROPER BLOCK YOUR E-MAIL BECOMES PUBLIC AND ALL THAT ENTAILS.

>> ALSO A BLOCK AT THE BOTTOM THAT JUST STARTED LAST YEAR THAT YOU CAN CHECK IF YOU WANT TO TO SHARE YOUR E-MAIL WITH THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS. YOU CAN CHECK THE BOTTOM BOX.

>> OR YOU CAN JUST SEE ME SEPARATELY OR SEE EACH OTHER SEPARATELY AND HANDLE IT THAT

[2B. Election of a Chair and Vice-Chair for the 2019-20]

WILL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIRMAN FOR THE NEXT 12 MONTHS.

MR. COTE. >> I WILL NOMINATE JAMES MOSELEY FOR CHAIRMAN.

>> I WILL SECOND. >> ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? SEEING NONE, I AM ELECTED.

I DO WANT TO SAY -- [LAUGHTER] I DO WANT TO SAY -- [LAUGHTER]

>> THANK YOU. I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THIS WILL BE MY LAST TERM AS CHAIRMAN. YOU CAN ONLY BE A CHAIRMAN FOR THREE YEARS. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL. I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.F THERE'S ANYTHING I CAN DO TO DO A BETTER JOB AT WHAT I DO, PLEASE COME SEE ME IN PUBLIC OR IN PRIVATE OR WHATEVER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AT THIS TIME WE WILL MAKE NOMINATIONS FOR THE VICE CHAIRMAN FOR THE NEXT 12 MONTHS.

MR. COTE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE KEVIN MOORE.

>> WE HAVE NOMINATION FOR KEVIN MOORE. >> SECOND.

>> ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIRMAN FOR THE COMING YEAR?

[LAUGHTER] >> SEEING NONE, YOU ARE ELECTED.

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DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? >> NO. >> THANK YOU GUYS.

[2C. Discuss 2019 Neighborhood Summit. (Elise Bowers, Neighborhood Life Coordinator)]

>> DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION. >> I DON'T. JUST GIVE ME A BLANK SCREEN.

A PRETTY PICTURE. PAST THOSE AROUND. I'M GIVING I TAKE HOME INSTEAD OF A PRESENTATION. EVERYBODY GETS TIRED OF PRESENTATIONS.

I KNOW YOU GUYS DEAL SO MUCH WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. ONE OF THE GOALS IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS STRENGTHEN NEIGHBORHOOD LIVABILITY. ONE OF THE WAYS WE ARE LOOKING TO DO THAT IS TO STRENGTHEN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERSHIP.

I HAVE IN THE PAST DONE A LEADERSHIP SUMMIT. NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERSHIP SUMMIT.

I HAD MAYBE 10 PEOPLE THERE. IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO. I HAVE BEEN COLLABORATING AND WORKING WITH THE CITY OF GARLAND AND THE CITY OF PLANO. I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO A JOINT NEIGHBORHOOD SUMMIT NOVEMBER 9. IT'S GOING TO BE IN PLANO AT THE COLLEGE CONFERENCE CENTER. SPRING CAMPUS. 8:30 UNTIL 12:30.

BASICALLY, WHAT THIS IS, IT IS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME LEARNING SESSIONS AND TO NETWORK WITH YOUR PEERS IN DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS THE NORTHEAST DFW AREA.

I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. WE WILL HAVE A KEYNOTE SPEAKER AND WE WILL HAVE TWO DIFFERENT BREAKOUT SESSIONS. YOU HAVE A CHOICE OF SIX DIFFERENT TOPICS.

YOU'LL HAVE BREAKFAST. AND BECAUSE MY COMMITMENT TO COMMUNITY, WE ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY ALSO HAVE A PRE-SUMMIT MIXER AT BANKHEAD WHICH SHOULD BE FUN.

WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT ON FRIDAY NIGHT FROM 5:30 UNTIL 7:00.

AND THEN ANOTHER GREAT WAY ÃI DON'T KNOW IF YOUR MEMBER JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL OR WHATEVER, BUT ANOTHER GREAT WAY TO BOND IS THROUGH TAKING A BUS TRIP TOGETHER.

WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A US. IF YOU LIKE TO JOIN US, WE WILL MEET AT 7:30 ON SATURDAY MORNING AND WE WILL BUS OVER TO PLANO AND WE WILL BUS YOU BACK HOME.

I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE YOU SING CAMP SONGS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT WHO WANTS TO RIDE TO PLANO AT 7:30 IN THE MORNING? I WILL HAVE COFFEE AND DOUGHNUTS OR SOME SORT OF APPROPRIATE FOOD. LIKE I SAID, GARLAND AND PLANO HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME. THEY REALLY ARE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.

I AM REALLY, REALLY EXCITED WE ARE GETTING READY TO DO THIS. AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE MADE WITH THE CITY OF PLANO, GARLAND, WE ARE ALSO GOING TO BE HOLDING A SUMMIT HERE IN ROWLETT IN MARCH. THIS IS MORE DIRECTED TOWARDS THE MANDATORY HOA'S.

IT'S HOA LEGAL CLINIC. VOLUNTEERING ASSOCIATIONS ARE WELCOME.

WE WILL TALK ABOUT CAPITAL FUNDING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT WILL BE IN MARCH.

REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. THE LAST AND FINAL THING THAT IS IN YOUR BROCHURE IS SOMETHING CALLED NISA. IT'S A NATIONAL GROUP OF PEOPLE, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF. THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE IS GOING TO BE IN LITTLE ROCK IN ARKANSAS. BETWEEN PLANO, GARLAND AND ROWLETT, IF WE CAN GET 30 PEOPLE WE WILL PROVIDE THE TRANSPORTATION TO THE THREE DAY CONFERENCE.

YOU WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CONFERENCE REGISTRATION AND YOUR HOTEL AND MEALS AND STUFF, BUT IT IS A GREAT WAY -- I WENT TWO YEARS AGO AND IT WAS IN BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA.

THEY HAD 500 PEOPLE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN BIRMINGHAM AT THAT CONFERENCE.

IT WAS AMAZING THE ENERGY AND EXCITEMENT FOR PEOPLE WHO REALLY WANT TO CONNECT WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS. I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS KNOW HAVING A CONNECTED NEIGHBORHOOD IS A WAY TO HAVE A REALLY SAFE AND WELCOMING NEIGHBORHOOD. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS

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I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU JOIN US. YOU GO ONLINE TO NORTH TAX IN X NEIGHBORHOOD SUMMIT .ORG TO REGISTER. IT'S FREE.

[LAUGHTER] >> IT'S VERY. I STILL HAVE 10 SEATS TO FILL.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD COMMENTARY THAT THIS IS A GREAT EVENT.

A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET INVOLVED AND KNOW HOW YOU CAN HELP YOUR COMMUNITY AS WELL.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT YOU HAVE TO SERVE ON THE BOARD OF OUR COMMISSION, BUT JUST THE PARTICIPATION HELPS. I REALLY APPLAUD ELISE FOR GETTING THIS TOGETHER.

>> ABSOLUTELY. THE TARGET AUDIENCE FOR THIS IS SOMEONE INTERESTED IN STARTING A CRIME WATCH OR WHO HAS A CRIME WATCH, OR JUST DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO GET INVOLVED WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS. IT CAN BE INTIMIDATING TO PUT A FLYER ON SOMEBODY'S HOUSE.

THIS IS HOW TO LEARN HOW TO DO THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. >> IF WE HAVE SOMEONE

INTERESTED, DO WE HAVE THEM REACH OUT TO YOU DIRECTLY? >> HAVE THEM GO TO THE WEBSITE.

IF THEY JUST HAVE QUESTIONS, ABSOLUTELY. >> IS THERE ANOTHER PAMPHLET I CAN GET? > I'M REALLY EXCITED. I HAVE 20 SO FAR.

MY GOAL IS TO HAVE 30. I THINK WE WILL HAVE A GOOD TIME.

KELLY HAS BEEN TO SOME OF MY STUFF. WE HAVE A GOOD TIME.

I APPRECIATE IT, YOU GUYS, LETTING ME SPEAK AND LETTING THE CITY ACADEMY HANG OUT WITH YOU. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO A GOOD MEETING.

>> THANK YOU, MS. BOWERS. AS EVIDENCED BY ACTIVITY SUNDAY NIGHT, WE HAD THE TORNADO THREE YEARS AGO, A LOT OF PEOPLE FINALLY GOT TO MEET THEIR NEIGHBORS.

IT REALLY MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE. I MEAN, THE TORNADO WE HAD SUNDAY NIGHT, ONE OR TWO HOUSES GOT PLASTERED. FOR THOSE OF YOU NEWER HERE, WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF TOWN. PEOPLE PULLED TOGETHER AND WE GOT A LOT DONE AND WE CLEARED THE STREETS AND IT WAS PRETTY AMAZING REALLY.

IT REALLY WAS AMAZING. THIS IS A GOOD THING. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ON THAT ISSUE? WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 2D TO DISCUSS AGENDA ITEMS.

[2D. Discuss agenda items.]

ONE OF THEM WAS WITHDRAWN OR POSTPONED. >> IT'S BEEN POSTPONED.

AFTER REVIEWING THE APPLICATION, WE HAD SOME OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS RELATED TO THE PROJECT, RELATED TO THE APPLICATION.

WE SPOKE TO THE APPLICANT AND WE ARE REQUESTING FROM STAFF PERSPECTIVE DELAY AND POSTPONEMENT FOR TWO WEEKS AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO THE TABLE.

>> JUST THE ONE REPLANT AT BAYSIDE. DID EVERYONE GET A CHANCE TO

LOOK AT IT? >> I HAVE A QUICK PRESENTATION ON THAT.

>> ALL RIGHT. THAT BEING SAID, WE WILL MOVE BACK TO ITEM 3, A WORK SESSION FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ADVISORY COMMITTEE. I WOULD JUST SAY FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DIDN'T KNOW, NOT ONLY ARE YOU A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, BUT ALSO A MEMBER OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ADVISORY. SINCE I HAVE BEEN HERE -- WILL HAVE REGULAR MEETINGS ON THIS. IT COMES UP WHEN THERE ARE CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS IMPACT FEES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S IRREGULAR, BUT WE ARE THE MEMBERS OF THAT. WE HAVE THE SAME SITUATION. THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT.

>> IF YOU NOTICED, WE CREATED A WORK SESSION, THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, YOURSELVES.

IT IS POSTED FOR

[3A. Presentation of Impact Fees to the Capital Improvements Advisory Committee. ]

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WE HAVE RETAINED KIMBERLY HORN TO HELP US WITH THIS STUDY. THIS IS JEFF WHITAKER WITH KIMBERLY HORN. HE HAS PREPARED THE REPORT AND HE HAS WORKED ON HIS PRESENTATION. HE CAN EXPLAIN IMPACT FEES AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE A LOT BETTER THAN I CAN. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO

JEFF. >> GOOD EVENING. JEFF WHITAKER WITH KIMBERLY HORN. I'M TRANSPORTATION TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

I WORKED ON THE PREVIOUS IMPACT FEE STUDY IN THE 13 TIMEFRAME. WHAT I'M GOING TO GO OVER TODAY IS WHAT IS AN IMPACT FEE. HOW MANY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN AN IMPACT FEE STUDY PREVIOUSLY?

THIS IS NEW. A FEW OF Y'ALL? >> WE DID SOMETHING ABOUT FOUR

OR FIVE YEARS AGO. I THINK ME AND LISA. >> I RECOGNIZE YOU.

I WILL TALK ABOUT YOUR ROLE. SPECIFIC ACTIONS WE WILL ASK FOR Y'ALL TO DO.

WHY ARE WE UPDATING? A LITTLE BIT OF THE METES AND BOUNDS.

THE DEAL IS TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE REPORT. HE GOT THE REPORT AND WILL GO THROUGH THE METHODOLOGY AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NEXT STEPS. WHAT IS AN IMPACT FEE? WHEN GROWTH COMES INTO A CITY THEY PUT DEMANDS ON INFRASTRUCTURE CITY.

THE THOUGHT BEHIND THE IMPACT STUDY IS WHAT IS THE COST FOR THE GROWTH.

COVER COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE GROWTH. IT'S GOVERNED BY CHAPTER 395 OF THE TEXAS CODE. IT'S AN INTERESTING FACT. IMPACT FEE STATUTE FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS IS THE LONGEST OF ANY STATE. SOME OF THE THE REASON WE DO THINGS WAY REDUCE THE STATE TELLS US TO DO THAT. TEXAS HAS TWENTYSOMETHING PAGES. IT WAS INITIATED BY THE HOMEBUILDERS ASSOCIATION AND DEVELOPERS. CITIES WERE CHARGING FEES WITHOUT A FORMULA.

THE STATE LAW OUTLINES THE FORMULA. I WILL GO THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT WITH YOU. IT OUTLINES WHAT WE DO. IT DETERMINES A FAIR SHARE.

WHAT IS THE FUTURE GROWTH COSTS AND HOW THEY WOULD PAY FOR THAT.

IT'S A ONE-TIME FEE. I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ITEM.

I USUALLY PUT ONE-TIME FEE ONLY FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS WHEN A DEVELOPMENT COMES INTO PLAY THE BUILDING PERMIT. THEY PAY AN IMPACT FEE ONE-TIME. WHAT COSTS ARE RECOVERABLE? IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IF THE CITY IS TAKING ON A PROJECT, CONSTRUCTION, PLANNING, SURVEYING AND ENGINEERING AND ACQUISITION ASSOCIATED COSTS. FINANCING. IF YOU BUY A HOME, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY PAY THE PRICE OF THE HOME. WHEN YOU GET YOUR BILL, LOVE THAT GOES TOWARDS INTEREST. THE SAME AS FUNDING CAPITAL PROJECT SO WE CAN CLEAR THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. WE CAN ALSO INCLUDE COSTS FOR STATE AND FEDERAL ROADWAYS IF YOU CHOOSE TO PARTICIPATE IN ROADWAY. OFTEN TIMES CITIES PARTICIPATE ON STATE ROADWAYS AT 20 TO 50 PERCENT. JUST THE CITY'S COSTS.

WE ARE NOT CHARGING THE STATES COSTS. THE IMPACT FEES IS FOR CAPACITY IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. WHAT THAT MEANS IS IF YOU HAVE A WATER LINE THAT'S 8 INCHES AND SOME REASON IT'S NOT WORKING WELL, YOU CAN'T GO AND REPLACE IT WITH AN EIGHT INCH WATER LINE. HAS TO B-12 INCH WATER LINE. IF YOU HAVE A ROAD LINE THAT YOU WANT TO REPAVE OR FILL THE POTHOLES, TAKING THE TWO LANE ROADWAY AND GOING TO FOUR LANE ROADS. PROJECTS HAVE TO BE IDENTIFIED ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. THIS ISN'T AN OPERATION MANAGEMENT THING.

IN THE EIGHT INCH WATER LINE, IF YOU ARE GOING TO BUILD IT TO 12 INCH WATER LINE, COULD USE

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THE OTHER JEFF'S TIME ON THIS PROJECT CAN'T BE RECOVERED. STATE LAW DOES NOT ALLOW US TO PUT CITY STAFF TIME FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OPERATION COSTS FOR THIS PROGRAM.

ALL THE COSTS AND PROCEEDS GO STRAIGHT INTO THOSE RECOVERABLE COSTS AND NOT INTO STAFF TIME.

ANYTHING NOT ON THE CIP WE CAN'T PAY FOR THAT SERVICE. WHAT IS YOUR ROLE? IMPACT FEES HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR SOME TIME. WHEN YOU FIRST IMPACT THE FUTURE ROLE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. WHEN WE ARE UPDATING IT, YOUR ROLE HAS THE SAME PROCEDURE IT'S JUST NOT AS LONG OR AS COMPLICATED.

YOU ARE NOT UPDATING THEM AND YOU HAVE TO LEARN LITTLE THINGS.

WE WILL PRESENT WITH THE LAND-USE ASSUMPTIONS ARE. WILL PRESENT THE DRAFT OF THOSE TONIGHT. WE WILL TELL YOU HOW IN THE PAST THEY HAVE FILED THE WRITTEN COMMENTS AND OTHER CITIES HAVE FILED THE WRITTEN COMMENTS BECAUSE THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS TO DO THAT. THAT IS YOUR TASK RIGHT NOW, THE FIRST FOUR BULLETS.

ONGOING, IMPACT FEE ABOUT CAPITAL PERMITS ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS SUPPOSED TO BE TWICE A YEAR, ONCE EVERY SIX MONTHS. FILE SEMIANNUAL REPORTS.

IF SOMETHING IS GOING ON, IF YOU NEED TO UPDATE, LIKE THE PREVIOUS UPDATE, IT WAS INCORPORATED INTO THE IMPACT FEE SO WE CAN POTENTIALLY USE THOSE FUNDS TO RECOVER THAT.

THAT WAS GIVEN TO US TO REVISE IMPACT SEE STUDY. THAT'S KIND OF THE LAST BULLET.

IF THERE'S SOME REASON TO UPDATE BEFORE FIVE YEARS, YOU'RE THE SIGNBOARD THAT TELLS US TO UPDATE IT BEFORE FIVE YEARS. JUST TO RECAP, THE FIRST FOUR IS WHAT WE ARE FOCUSED ON RIGHT NOW TO REVIEW THE LAND-USE AND CIP AND FOLLOW WRITTEN COMMENTS.WHY ARE WE UPDATING? THE LARGEST REASON THIS IS REQUIRED EVERY YEAR BY STATE LAW. WE HAVE TO UPDATE. THE OTHER THING IS THINGS CHANGE. THERE'S DIFFERENT CHANGES. THE COMP PLANS ASSUMPTIONS, TYPICALLY MAJOR ASSUMPTIONS HAVE CHANGED. WE WENT THROUGH THE WASTEWATER MASTER PLANS AND THE ROADWAY MASTER PLAN AND MADE SURE THE CIP IS CONSISTENT WITH THE MASTER PLANS AND REALLY TO IMPROVE THE PROGRAM. EVERY TIME WE DO AN UPDATE THERE SOMETHING THAT COMES UP TO IMPROVE THE PROGRAM. FOR ANY IMPACT FEE, THERE IS FOUR MAIN COMPONENTS. THERE'S A CONCEPT CALLED SERVICE AREAS WHICH I WILL TALK ABOUT IN A MOMENT. I WILL GO THROUGH THESE A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL.

IF THERE'S ANYTHING I'M GOING TO FAST ON, FEEL FREE TO INTERRUPT.

>> I HAVE ONE QUESTION RIGHT OFF THE BAT. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT STREETS

AND SEWER AND DRAINAGE AND WATER. >> DRAINAGE IS NOT WHEN WE ARE

TALKING ABOUT. >> STORM DRAINS ARE NOT PART OF IT?

>> THE STATE LAW DOES ALLOW FOR DRAINAGE IMPACT FEES, BUT MOST DON'T REQUIRE IT.

IN THEORY, THERE'S NO IMPACT THEY'RE PUTTING ON THE SYSTEM. >> IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE A

DRAINAGE POND ON EVERY LARGE PROJECT, IT WOULD BE WOULDN'T? >> THE CITY IMPLEMENTED A STORMWATER UTILITY FEE A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO. ALSO INVOLVED IN UPDATING THAT AS WELL. THAT ALSO IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND MUCH LIKE THE WATER AND SEWER FUNDS ARE. IT COLLECTS MONEY FOR DRAINAGE PROJECTS AND DRAINAGE

IMPROVEMENTS. >> ELECTRICITY, SUBSTATIONS AND ALL OF THAT, TOTALLY SEPARATE.

DOESN'T APPLY. >> IT'S NOT EVEN A NORMAL CITY FUNCTION.

>> WE NEED TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE ARE NOT EXPERTS. >> TODAY WE ARE JUST FOCUSED ON STREETS. IT ALLOWS FOR STREETS, WASTEWATER AND DRAINAGE.T'S NOT WHEN WE HAVE STUDIED. MOST OF THESE DON'T HAVE DRAINAGE.

THE CITIES THAT DON'T HAVE IT, VERY FEW HAVE IT. WE ARE FOCUSED ON THE THREE THAT CURRENTLY HAVE IT RIGHT NOW. ONE OF YOUR JOBS IS TO MONITOR AND EVALUATE AND PROVIDE COMMENTS. .URRENTLY WE ARE NOT LOOKING

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IF YOU ARE FIXED AT CAPACITY HERE, IT CAN HELP CAPACITY HERE BECAUSE IT'S A CLOSED SYSTEM AND EVERYTHING IS ON A LOOP. ROADWAY IS LIMITED BY STATE LAW.

THEY ARE LIMITED TO SIX MILES BY STATE LAW. YOU CAN SEE HOW IT SPLIT BY LAKEVIEW PARKWAY. YOU WILL SEE THAT IN A MINUTE. PREVIOUSLY IT WAS SPLIT INTO FOUR SERVICE AREAS. ONE OF THE SERVICE SIDES IS BIGGER.

>> THAT'S WHAT WE VOTED ON FIVE YEARS AGO. I REMEMBER THAT.

>> WE HAVE BIGGER SERVICE AREAS NOW. WE CAN EXPLAIN THE BENEFITS.

YOU CAN PULL YOUR FUNDS TOGETHER. THE KEY IS THE MONEY MUST BE SPENT ON THE PROJECTS IN THAT SERVICE AREA. FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER, THE NORTH SIDE OF THE CITY HAS TO SPEND ON PROJECTS ON THE NORTH SIDE AND THE SOUTH SIDE FOR PROJECTS ON THE SOUTH SIDE. THIS IS ROADWAY. THE MONEY COLLECTED IN GREENWOOD HAVE TO BE SPENT IN GREEN. MONEY COLLECTED IN YELLOW WILL HAVE TO BE SPENT IN YELLOW. THESE ARE THE SAME SERVICE AREAS WE DISCUSSED IN THE PREVIOUS UPDATE. WATER AND WASTEWATER ARE VERY SIMILAR.

ONE THING YOU WILL KNOW ON THE ROADWAY IS YOU CAN'T CHARGE ANYTHING OUTSIDE THE CORPORATE LIMITS. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF THE CITY HAS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF

TOWN THAT YOU CAN CHARGE. >> LET'S NOT HAVE ACRONYMS IF WE CAN.

A LOT OF US DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.

I KNOW THAT MEANS, BUT FOR PEOPLE WATCHING. >> EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION IS AN AREA CONTROLLED THAT'S NOT IN CITY LIMITS BUT COULD BE NEXT TO CITY LIMITS. THE WATER AND WASTEWATER HAVE THE SAME SERVICE AREA, SAME BOUNDARY. THE SERVICE UNIT. THIS IS HOW WE CALCULATE THE FEE. THIS IS THE TERMINOLOGY THAT WE CALCULATE THE FEE.

CHAPTER 395 DEFINES IT AS A WAY TO MEASURE CONSUMPTION AS ATTRIBUTED TO A DEVELOPMENT.

FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER, IT'S YOUR METER SIZE. BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE METER IS HOW MUCH WATER YOU POTENTIALLY DEMAND. AS AN ENGINEER, WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT A DEVELOPMENT, HOW MUCH WATER THEY'RE GOING TO USE.

WE RELAY EVERYTHING BACK TO STANDARD METER SIZE. EVERYTHING IS EQUATED TO THE FIVE OR SIX INCH METER. IS BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF TRIPS A SITE IS GENERATING BY HOW FAR THEY ARE TRAVELING. I WILL SHOW SOME EXAMPLES IN A MINUTE.

FIRST ON THE WATER. THE 5/8 BY THREE FOURTHS METER IS COMMON.

PROBABLY MANY OF YOU HAVE THIS. A TWO INCH METER IS MORE FOR MAYBE A SHOPPING CENTER OR APARTMENT COMPLEX. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? A SHOPPING METER IS EQUIVALENT.

TWO INCH METER IS SIMILAR TO EIGHT OUNCES. IF YOU ARE A HOUSE OF THAT IF YOU ARE A SHOPPING CENTER, YOU PAY EIGHT TIMES THE AMOUNT OF THE HOUSE.

THIS IS A GRAPHIC EXPLANATION. WASTEWATER IS BASED ON THE WATER METER.

GIVES MORE PULL. WASTEWATER IS BASED ON THE WATER METER SIZE.

THE LAND-USE ASSUMPTIONS. WE BASE IT ON THE 2019 CONFERENCE OF LAND.

THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN THE 2019 CONFERENCE PLAN.

WE ALSO LOOK BACK AT HISTORIC BUILDING PERMITS. THE QUESTION WE ALWAYS GET PAST IS THAT THE PROJECTION AND HOW WELL THEY WILL LOOK OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS.

THIS IS ALSO A PROJECTION. IN 2013 WE HAD SOME ASSUMPTIONS.F YOU LOOK AT THE BLUE LINE ON THE BOTTOM, THE ASSUMPTION SAID THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD NEED.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE BLACKLINE, THIS IS WHAT ACTUALLY OCCURRED. THE REDLINE IS WHAT WE ARE PROJECTING TO GO IN THE FUTURE. THIS IS SIMILAR TO WHAT THE COMP PLAN IS OUTLINING, TOO.

WE JUST DID THAT. THE PROJECTIONS YOU SEE FOLLOWS THE REDLINE AND IS BASED ON KIND OF AN AVERAGE TREND LINE OF HISTORIC TENURES OR HISTORIC FROM 2013 UNTIL NOW.

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THIS IS A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE ARE PROJECTING TO GROW IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

WE BREAK IT OUT BY POPULATION. SERVICE AREA ONE IS TO THE NORTH, TO THE NORTH OF LAKEVIEW. SERVICE AREA TWO IS SOUTH OF LAKEVIEW.

WE PROJECTED THAT OUT BASED ON THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT WAS GOING TO GO. THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, 1000 SQUARE FEET.

OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS WE ARE PROJECTING 4700. THIS IS A MIXTURE OF MULTIFAMILY UNITS AND SINGLE-FAMILY UNITS.T'S PER UNIT AND NOT PER BUILDINGS PER UNIT. SINGLE-FAMILY IS FOR SINGLE-FAMILY.

AND THEN SQUARE FOOTAGE. SQUARE FOOTAGE. >> YOU GUYS ARE ESTIMATING IN

10 YEARS 82,000. IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT? >> YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THE

EXISTING POPULATION? >> 68 RIGHT NOW. >> YES.

CLOSE. >> THIS IS TO ENTER ISSUE TO THE CIP MAPS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE. ALL OF THE CIP'S -- IF YOU ARE USED TO LOOKING AT MASTER PLAN MAPS, THESE ARE FOR THE CIP ELIGIBLE PROJECTS. WE IDENTIFY NINE PROJECTS SPREAD ACROSS THE CITY. YOU CAN SEE SOME IN THE NORTH. THESE RANGE ANYWHERE FROM A 16 INCH WATER LINE TO THE GROUND STORAGE TANK TO OTHER TYPES OF PROJECTS.

THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THROUGH WORKING WITH ENGINEERING, JEFF AND HIS GROUP, THAT WE IDENTIFIED THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE NEEDED THE NEXT 10 YEARS OR HAVE BEEN BUILT AND HAVE CAPACITY TO SERVE THE NEXT 10 YEARS. THESE ARE THE PROJECTS WE FEEL APPROPRIATE THE NEXT 10 YEARS. WASTEWATER CIP IS A VERY SIMILAR MAP.

THESE ARE THE PROJECTS WE IDENTIFY THE NEXT 10 YEARS. THERE IS 12 PROJECTS AS OPPOSED TO NINE. A COMBINATION OF LIFT STATIONS. THE LIFT STATIONS ARE WHEN YOU HAVE A GRAVITY SEWER. SOMETIMES YOU LIFT THE SEWER UP AND ROLL IT DOWN.

>> I HATE TO KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING FOR BAYSIDE.

IS THERE REASON? I DON'T SEE ANY MAJOR PROJECTS. I'M SURE THERE'S GOING TO BE A

LOT. >> ACTUALLY, CHAIRMAN, NUMBERS NINE I CAN'T SEE.

11 AND 12 AND 10, NINE, 10, 11 AND 12 ARE RELATED TO BAYSIDE. >> ALL RIGHT.

I'M LOOKING AT THE DRAWING. >> THE ACTUAL BAYSIDE INFRASTRUCTURE IS BUILT BY THE DEVELOPER, BUT THOSE ARE EXPANSIONS OR ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS NEEDED

BECAUSE OF BAYSIDE. >> I WASN'T READING THAT. I WAS LOOKING AT THE PICTURES.

>> I KNOW. THEY'RE NOT DOWN THERE. >> THE IMPACT, WE ARE NOT -- THE LOCAL STREETS AND ROADWAYS ARE NOT INCLUDED. WATER LINES AND SEWER LINES.

THESE ARE THE MAIN LEADERS. >> GO BACK ONE. THE BIG WATER LINE COMING DOWN

NUMBER SEVEN THAT, IS RELATED TO BAYSIDE. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. .

>> ONE OF THE MAJOR THINGS WE HAVE CHANGED IS WE LOOKED AT THE MARRIOTT ROAD AREA AND LOOKED AT SOME STUDIES IN THE AREA. WE HAVE ALIGNED THIS TO LOOK LIKE WHAT WE PLANNED IN THE AREA. THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF LARGE CROSSINGS. WHEN YOU CROSS THE CREEK FOR A ROADWAY, COVERT, OR BRIDGE, THAT CAN BE EXPENSIVE. YOU CAN SEE CHANGE. THIS ONE INCORPORATES SOME OF THE LARGER DOLLAR PROJECTS THAT ARE CROSSING CREEKS. WHEN YOU SEE RED, SOLID RED, THAT'S A WIDENING PROJECT. THAT MEANS WE ARE TAKING THE ROAD AND WHITE BEING THE NUMBER

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SOMETIMES WE BUILD ROADWAYS AND WATERWAYS IN ANTICIPATION OF FUTURE GROWTH.

THE ROAD WAS COMPLETED IN ANTICIPATION OF THIS AREA SO WE CAN RECOVER SOME OF THAT COST.

>> THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE WATCHING AT HOME RIGHT NOW. WHEN WE HAVE PROJECTS COMING UP ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN, LIKE THE NORTH SHORE AREA OR WHATEVER PASSED IT, AND PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, THIS IS A PLAN FOR THE CITY TO RECOVER SOME OF THOSE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS OF OUR STREETS. THESE NEWER AREAS ARE EITHER ON THE BOOKS NOW THAT ARE GOING TO BE DEVELOPED OR FUTURE PROJECTS DOWN THE LINE.

>> REALLY THE PLAN HASN'T CHANGED A LOT. MORE CHANGES IN SERVICE AREA ONE ROADWAY THAT SERVICE AREA TWO. THIS IS AN INDICATION MOST OF THE ROADS IN SERVICE AREA TWO ARE EITHER WIDENING SORE THERE WAS NO ONE NEW CONNECTION YOU SEE IN THE CORNER NEAR MAIN STREET ON THE WEST SIDE. THERE IS ONE NEW CONNECTION.

AS YOU ARE AWARE, THE $2013 HAVE INCREASED. THERE IS MINOR CHANGES.

THIS IS THE PLAN CURRENTLY IN PLACE. .

SO HOW ARE THE IMPACT FEES CALCULATE? WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LAND USE AND POPULATION PROJECTIONS, THAT GIVES US THE DEMAND. WE PROJECTED THE DEMAND AND THAT WHAT GIVES US THE DEMAND. THE MASTER PLANS, WHERE FOLLOWING THE MASTER PLAN.

THE CALCULATION BECOMES -- I SAY RELATIVELY SIMPLE, BUT IT'S REALLY THE RECOVERABLE COSTS.

WE DON'T COVER EVERY DOLLAR OF EVERY PROJECT.OME OF THE PROJECTS ARE EXISTING.

>> YOU MENTIONED ON MAIN STREET THE UPDATE, WHICH ONE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

>> I THINK IT'S 2-0. >> IT'S A CONNECTION THAT ALLOWS THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GO

BACK ONTO MAIN STREET. >> I'M READING MY MAPS. >> CAN WE GO BACK.

>> ABSOLUTELY. . >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> THESE TWO CHARTS, TRAFFIC AND THE ROADS, THIS IS WHAT AFFECTS OUR CITIZENS.

WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SEWER LINES AND WATER LINES AND AREAS NOT DEVELOPED YET, PEOPLE DON'T SEE THAT. THIS IS THE 11 PEOPLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE GROWTH IN OUR CITY AND THEY KNOW THE POPULATION 14,000 PEOPLE, WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS GET THE FEES TO IMPROVE THE STREETS LIKE MILLER ROAD FOR INSTANCE. THE EAST END OF MILLER ROAD, OR THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE IN TOWN, TO GET THEM IMPROVED SO DOES A BETTER JOB

OF HANDLING THE TRAFFIC. THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. >> THE FORMULA IS WHAT'S THE RECOVERABLE COST DIVIDED BY THE GROWTH? WE SPREAD THE COST DIVIDED BY THE GROWTH. CHAPTER 395 OF TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, ONCE WE CALCULATE THAT WE HAVE TO CUT IT IN HALF. THAT'S CREDIT FOR THEBENEFIT OF DEVELOPING. THE MAXIMUM FEE WE COULD CHARGES HALF OF WHAT WE CALCULATED. IS TO RECOGNIZE WHEN THEY COME IN THEY PAY TAXES ETC. THE NUMBERS THAT YOU WILL SEE ARE THE CREDIT CALCULATION WHICH IS A 50 PERCENT NUMBER.

>> ARE THESE STANDARD FEES PRETTY MUCH FOR EVERY CITY AROUND THE AREA?

>> MOST CITIES IN THE METROPLEX HAVE WATER WASTEWATER. >> OUR FEE BASIS IS THE SAME AS PLANO? ARE WE LIST? DO WE CHARGE LESS OR MORE?

>> PLANO DOES NOT HAVE IMPACT FEES ANYMORE. THEY DISCONTINUED THE PROGRAM

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10 YEARS AGO. THEY ARE BUILT OUT. >> LET'S SAY WIELY.

>> I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH WILEY, BUT GARLAND HAS A SIMILAR PROGRAM.

FOR THE NEXT MEETING, IF YOU WANT SOME COMPARISON TABLES, LET US KNOW THE CITIES HE WANTS

US TO COMPARATIVE. >> OTHERWISE YOU WERE TELLING US A DOLLAR FIGURE.

I LIKE TO KNOW FOR OUR CITY. >> CHAIRMAN MOSLEY AND COMMISSIONERS, IMPACT FEES ARE BASED ON THE CIP PROGRAM AND WHERE WE ARE PROJECTED TO BE AND SCHEDULED TO GO.

IN SOME PLACES IT MAY BE APPLES AND ORANGES. >> THAT'S FINE.

MAKE US FEEL LIKE WE ARE A LOT MORE CLEAR. >> WE CAN PUT A COMPARISON TOGETHER FOR THE NEXT MEETING. THIS MEETING WAS TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THE TOPIC AND WE WILL INTRODUCE YOU TO A LITTLE BIT MORE. WATER AND WASTEWATER.

YOU WILL SEE A TERM CALLED MAXIMUM AND ACTUAL. MAXIMUM IS WHAT I'M CALCULATING. YOU CAN'T CHARGE MORE THAN THAT.

STATE LAW DOESN'T ALLOW THAT. THIS IS WHAT WE CALCULATE AS FAIR AND EQUITABLE BASED ON THE ASSUMPTIONS. COUNSEL CAN SET THE RATE ANYWHERE FROM ZERO TO THE MAXIMUM NUMBER. FOR WATER WASTE, IT IS SET AT THE MAXIMUM SO THERE'S O DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MAXIMUM AND ACTUAL ON WATER WASTEWATER. WE SHOW AN INCREASE IN WATER OF

25.52 AND DECREASE IN WASTEWATER. >> WHY?

>> IT'S VARIOUS FACTORS. THE GROWTH AND INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED.

SOME OF THE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN THERE. IT'S BASED ON THOSE ELEMENTS THAT WE HAVE OUTLINED BEFORE. WASTEWATER WE HAD THE BIG 24 INCH WATER LINE.

THERE'S MORE OF A WATER COST THAN THERE WAS ON WASTEWATER COST.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE RATIONALE. THERE'S LESS OF A WASTEWATER COST. IS PRETTY COMMON FOR US TO START SEEING THOSE KIND OF EVEN OUT. WHEN YOU ARE IN A HIGHER WATER CYCLE YOU ARE IN A LOWER WASTEWATER CYCLE. IS NOT UNCOMMON TO SEE ONE GO UP AND ONE GO DOWN OR VICE

VERSA. >> BUT THE WATER IS GOING UP. >> THE WATER IS GOING UP.

THE STUDY IS STILL BEING FINALIZED. IF WE PRESENT THESE NUMBERS IN A FEW WEEKS, THEY MAY TWEAK A LITTLE. WE THINK WE ARE REALLY CLOSE, BUT THEY ARE STILL BEING FINALIZED. ALSO WE WILL BE LOOKING AT INPUT FROM Y'ALL FOR THE NEXT MEETING. THE ROADWAY IS A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED. THIS IS THE STUDY RESULT. AS I MENTIONED, SERVICE AREA ONE, THE FEE WAS $855. THE MAXIMUM FEE THAT WE CALCULATED.

THE ACTUAL WAS 698. THEY ADOPTED A PERCENTAGE. SERVICE AREA ONE, IT GIVES YOU A HIGHLIGHT THAT THE FEE AND SERVICE IS QUITE A BIT HIGHER. MUCH MORE INFRASTRUCTURE COST THAN WE HAD IN THE PREVIOUS STUDY. SERVICE AREA TWO, THEY ARE DIFFERENT BUT RELATIVELY THE SAME. THE COST WENT DOWN A LITTLE BIT. MORE EXISTING TRAFFIC ON THE ROADWAY.

SOME OF THE ROADS HAVE MORE CAPACITY. I STATED IF YOU HAVE A ROADWAY, THE MORE TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD THE LESS WE CAN CHARGE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC ON RUTLEDGE ROAD TODAY THAN 2013. THE FEE HAS GONE DOWN LARGELY BECAUSE OF THAT REASON. VERY MINIMAL, BUT IT'S GONE DOWN.

>> I HAVE TO ASK WHY WE WOULD EVER WANT TO TAKE AN ACTUAL -- >> THERE'S A MULTIPLIER I WILL EXPLAIN. WHEN A DEVELOPER COMES IN, THIS IS THEIR COST PER VEHICLE MILE.

THEY PAY A MULTIPLIER ON THAT. THOSE NUMBERS CAN SOMETIMES GET LARGER.

FOR EXAMPLE, SINGLE-FAMILY HOME IS APPROXIMATELY FOUR. MULTIPLY THAT BY FOUR.

IT ENDS UP BEING A BIGGER NUMBER. THIS IS WHAT THE STUDY PRODUCES AND WE HAVE TO SHOW YOU THOSE RATES. ITS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

>> MY QUESTION WOULD BE IF YOU DO THE STUDY AND THE MAXIMUM IS 855, WHY WOULD I NOT WANT TO GO AHEAD AND SAY 855? THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF MONEY I'M GOING TO GET IN SO I CAN

IMPROVE THE STREETS. >> YEAH. >> TO GO ALONG THOSE LINES,

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WE ARE FIXING TO HAVE A HUGE DEVELOPMENT IN SERVICE AREA TWO THIS COULD AFFECT THE ROADWAYS.

WHY WOULD WE WANT OUR MAXIMUM FEE TO GO DOWN $20? TO ME --

>> IT COULD GO UP A COUPLE HUNDRED. >> THAT'S $677.

THAT'S NOTHING. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS HERE ON EACH ONE OF THESE FEES. TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR THE CITY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE A VOTE ON ANYTHING THAT I'M FULLY AWARE.

GRANTED WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND CITY COUNCIL CAN VOTE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE AS A COMMISSIONER I FULLY UNDERSTAND WHY WE DROP FROM 698 TO 677.

WE HAVE THE BIG DEVELOPMENT. >> 677 -- BAYSIDE WILL HAVE SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES.

>> SO WHY NOT CHARGE 698 INSTEAD OF 677? >> BECAUSE HE SAID WE CAN'T.

[LAUGHTER] >> WHAT I'M ASKING IS 698, WHY WOULD WE HAVE DONE THAT?

>> THAT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED. >> THERE WAS A COUNCIL DECISION.

I THINK THAT'S THE SAME PERCENTAGE FOR THE SERVICE AREAS WITH THEY DECIDED TO DO.

THE COUNCIL IN 2013 SET THE MAXIMUM AT THE ACTUAL. >> I JUST WANT TO REALLY

UNDERSTAND THIS. >> THE ACTUAL IS A POLITICAL POLICY.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO -- OUR JOB IS TO CALCULATE IF GROWTH WAS PAID FOR GROWTH THAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM. WHAT EVER COUNSEL AND Y'ALL DECIDE TO DO.

WHAT THEY DID IS THEY WILL LOOK AT COMPARISON CHARTS. THEY LOOKED AT COMPARISON CHARTS LAST TIME. THEY WERE LOOKING AT YOUR NEIGHBORING CITIES.> THAT'S WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO THE NEXT MEETING. WE WILL HAVE THE COMPARABLES.

>> WE WILL PROBABLY SHOW YOU A SINGLE-FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

YOU WILL BUILD TO SEE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. FOR BAYSIDE, IT GENERATES A LOT OF VEHICLE MILES. NOT JUST 677. 677 TIMES THE NUMBER OF VEHICLE MILES. THERE ARE SOME THINGS STILL BEING STUDIED, STILL BEING FINALIZED. NOT A WHOLE LOT HAS CHANGED IN THOSE TWO SERVICE AREAS EXCEPT THE USAGE. MAYBE THE STUDY WILL SEE A DIFFERENT RESULT.

>> WHY WOULD YOU VOTE FOR 466 IF THE MAXIMUM IS 698? THE ANSWER IS BECAUSE YOU WOULD

WANT TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE. >> GENERALLY SPEAKING WHAT MOST COUNCILS ARE THINKING IS WHAT

ARE MY NEIGHBORS DOING AND HOW TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE? >> THE ONLY SERVICE DEVELOPMENT AREA IS BAYSIDE. NOW THAT THAT'S ON THE HOOK, WHY WOULD YOU KNOCK DOWN THE

PRICE? WHY NOT CHARGE THE MAX? >> THERE IS A LITTLE ON MAIN

STREET, THE OPPORTUNE AREAS. >> ANYWAY, ALL INTERESTING.> WE WILL SUBMIT AN IMPACT FEE REPORT FOR REVIEW. I GAVE A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE MAPS AND COSTS AND EVERYTHING OUTLINED IN THERE. HOPEFULLY YOU CAN READ IT AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE DO IT.

IT IS SOMEWHAT TECHNICAL. WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

WE CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS. COUNCIL SETS A PUBLIC HEARING DATE.

STATE LAW REQUIRES YOU TO SET A PUBLIC HEARING DATE. YOU HAVE TO ADVERTISE 30 DAYS IN ADVANCE. CIC WILL REVIEW IT. WE WILL ASK -- YOU ARE REQUIRED TO GIVE COMMENTS. YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO GIVE A RECOMMENDATION.

YOU CAN GIVE A RECOMMENDATION. YOU ARE REQUIRED TO GIVE COMMENTS.

SOME CIC'S DON'T LIKE TO GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS.OUNCIL WILL MEET TO ADOPT THE IMPACT FEE

AND SAID THE COLLECTION AMOUNT. >> TO REHASH JUST A SECOND, WE ARE NOT MAKING A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION. WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.

JUST MAKE COMMENTS? OKAY. >> YOU COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND SAY COMMENTARY WITH IT SAYING WE RECOMMEND THE FEES BE X OR Y,

OR WE RECOMMEND -- >> THIS IS A CITY COUNCIL DECISION.

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>> ABSOLUTELY. >> OUR CURRENT PLAN UPDATE IS WE HAVE THE WORKSHOP TODAY.

THE FINAL DRAFT WE TYPICALLY DON'T SAY IS FINAL UNTIL WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

THE FINAL DRAFT WE ARE PRETTY CLOSE. WE WILL HAVE THE FINAL DRAFT AT THE END OF THE MONTH. WE PLAN TO DISTRIBUTE THAT SHORTLY AFTER TO THIS GROUP, WE PLAN TO COME BACK TO YOU ON THE 12TH TO GO OVER MORE DETAILS AND MAYBE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. MAYBE FOCUS ON THE COMPARISONS THAT WE DISCUSSED TO BRING YOU BACK. YOU WILL SEE COUNCIL SETS THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FIFTH AND THAT IS TO GIVE ENOUGH TIME TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 17TH.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS PLANNING TO GO TO COUNSEL DECEMBER 17. YOUR COMMENTS TO COUNSEL ARE DUE ON THE 10TH. ON THE 12TH WE WILL HAVE TO SEE HOW THE 12TH GROWS.

SOMETIMES WE CAN GET THE COMMENTS THERE. THAT'S THE CURRENT SCHEDULE.

THEY HAVE TO BE FIVE BUSINESS DAYS PRIOR TO COUNSEL PUBLIC HEARING.

THIS IS THE TENTATIVE SCHEDULE. WE WILL ADVERTISE IN THE PAPER SOMEWHERE AROUND 15 NOVEMBER.

WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE 30 DAYS IN ADVANCE. YOU WILL SEE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND A WEEK LATER YOU WILL SEE THE ADVERTISEMENT COME OUT IN THE PAPER.

>> A ONE-TIME ADVERTISEMENT? >> JUST A ONE-TIME ADVERTISEMENT.

IS ONLY REQUIRED TO BE ONCE. >> ANY QUESTION FOR THE TWO JEFFS?

>> ARE WE LOVE TO ASK QUESTIONS? >> AS SOON AS THIS IS OVER.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? WE CAN CLOSE THIS MEETING.

>> BEFORE WE CLOSE, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FROM THIS PRESENTATION?

>> I WOULD LIKE A GOOD EXPLANATION AS TO WHY OUR FEES, THE PROPOSED FEES, WILL BE LOWER THAN WHAT THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE IS. I JUST WANT THAT TO BE REALLY

CLEAR TO ME WHY WE WOULD BE OFFERING A DISCOUNT. >> SOME SPECIFIC COMMENTS.

>> YEAH. >> NOT EVEN OUR NEIGHBOR. >> A PROJECT LIKE BAYSIDE GOING IN SOMEWHERE ELSE, WHAT THEIR FEES ARE IF THEY HAVE FEES. SO WE FEEL REALLY CONFIDENT

WITH WHAT WE ARE APPROVING. >> AN INCREASE OF 14,000 NEXT 10 YEARS, HOW SOME OF THOSE IMPACT FEES WILL BE TIED INTO THAT I GUESS. YOU UNDERSTAND? BECAUSE OF SO MUCH GROWTH. THE IMPACT IT'S GOING TO HAVE ON THE COMMUNITY.

>> I MEAN, AROUND 14,000 PEOPLE. THIS ADJUSTMENT TO THE IMPACT

FEE IS TO COVER THAT. >> I'M JUST TRYING TO SAVE TIME.

>> THE DOLLARS AND EVERYTHING IS IF IT GROWS LESS WE WON'T NEED AS MUCH INFRASTRUCTURE SO YOU WON'T GET AS MUCH DOLLARS. YOU MAY COLLECT -- WE ARE REQUIRED TO LOOK EVERY FIVE YEARS. WE UNDERESTIMATED LAST TIME. WE WILL HAVE NOVEMBER 12 ITEMS.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THESE GUYS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT JEFF AND JEFF. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEM

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