Mar 16, 2026 City Council Work Session

[1. Call to Order]

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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, TODAY IS MARCH 16, 2026. THE CITY COUNCIL HAS A QUORUM

[2. Citizens’ Input ]

NO ACTION CAN BE TAKEN BY THE COUNCIL DURING CITIZENS INPUT. I DO HAVE A REQUEST, IF ANYBODY ELSE WISHES TO SPEAK, YOU CAN GRAB A FORM FROM THE ROUNDTABLE. AT THIS TIME, MS. BETH CROQUET.

>> SPEAKER: BETH CROQUET, I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW GLAD I AM TO SEE THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX IN THE AGENDA TONIGHT. THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS REGARDING IT IS HOW MUCH MONEY IF WE HAVE EXPENDED ON THE G.O. BONDS THAT WERE APPROVED IN THE JULY OF 2023 FOR DESIGN AND HOW MUCH DID WE USE OUT OF THE BONDS FOR CITY HALLS? WILL THEY GET AN UPDATE ON HOW MUCH MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT TODAY ON THE DESIGN AND THE PLANS. IN THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX.

>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU MA'AM. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK

[3.A. Receive information from Rowlett PD regarding the Flock LPR System.]

ITEM A 3-A. >> DO YOU LIKE THAT PICTURE BETTER?

>> THAT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF FUN. >> THAT IS IS NOT BETTER. >> FROM A SAILOR'S POINT OF

VIEW IT'S BETTER. >> IT'S HILARIOUS. >> IT'S HILARIOUS.

>> THE ONLY THING MISSING IS (INAUDIBLE) >> YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THAT'S THE LINE YELLOW, I THINK. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY IS THIS

AFTER THIS WINDY WEEKEND, WE HAD. >> THAT'S THE TRUTH.

>> ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING US, GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT LICENSE PLATE REAR RPR SYSTEM. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED ON THE PRESENTATION. I ALSO HAVE DETECTIVE MORRIS HERE, HE'S GOING TO TAG TEAM AND SERGEANT, SERGEANT OF OUR SPECIAL OPERATIONS DIVISIONS, HE JUST HAD A BABY AND HE'S HERE TONIGHT JUST AS A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT, HE'S BUN OF OUR GO-TO SERGEANTS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO OUR USE OF FLOCK LICENSE PLATE READER TECHNOLOGY. OUR PRESENTATION WILL EXPLAIN HOW THE SYSTEM IS USED, LEGAL AUTHORITY, PRIVACY PROTECTIONS, DATA SHARING PRACTICES, SECURITY STANDARDS.

SO THE ROWLETT POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS USED TECHNOLOGY SINCE 2023.

WE START WITHED TEN CAMERAS AND IN 2024, WE FOUND SOME GREAT WINS WITH THE FIRST TEN CAMERAS SO WE EXPANDED THAT TO 20 CAMERAS IN 2024. SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE 20 OPERABLE LICENSE PLATE CAMERAS IN THE COMMUNITY. THE SYSTEM CAPTURES IMAGES OF VEHICLES TRAVELING IN PUBLIC PLACES. IT ENABLES CASES TO BE SOLVED MORE EFFICIENCY AND USED EXCLUSIVELY AS AN INVESTIGATIVE TOOL.

NOW TO EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT. AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE TECHNOLOGY IS A COMPUTER BASE SYSTEM THAT USED DESIGNED CAMERAS TO CAPTURE AN IMAGE OF A VEHICLE, LICENSE PLATE AND CONVERT THE LICENSE PLATE USING OPTICAL RECOGNITION TECHNOLOGY.

I KNOW THAT'S A MOUTHFUL BUT THAT CAN BE COMPARED TO DATA FILES AND IF A MATCH IS FOUND, THEN THE LPR SYSTEM USER OR DETECTIVES, OFFICERS ARE NOTIFIED BY AN AUDIBLE ALERT AND NOTATION REGARDING THE ALERT. OPERATING SYSTEMS FROM THE VENDOR OF LPR WILL ALLOW DEPARTMENT MEMBERS TO ACCESS THE DATA TO DETECT, DETER AND

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AND A SUCCESS STORY REGARDING A STOLEN VEHICLE AND AN ARREST THAT WAS MADE REGARDING THAT TEXAS LICENSE PLATE THAT WAS ENTERED INTO THE SYSTEM CONFIRMED THE VEHICLE, TO MATCH THE STOLEN VEHICLE IN THE HIT AND THE TRAFFIC STOP WAS AN ISSUE AND THE DRIVER WAS SUCCESSFULLY ARRESTED. SO AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE CURRENTLY LPR CAMERAS DEPLOYED IN MAJOR THOROUGHFARES, SORRY THAT'S A TYPO. IS THERE A LASER POINTER HERE?

THE OTHER BUTTON, THERE YOU GO. >> JUST MOVE IT AROUND. >> I THINK THEY'RE MESSING WITH

YOU. >> [LAUGHTER]. >> SO PHYSICIAN DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE MAP, MOSTLY WHERE OUR CAMERAS, ARE PLACED. AND THAT'S BUSINESS DESIGN, WE'RE TRYING TO CAPTURE AS MANY VEHICLES COMING AND GOING FROM OUR COMMUNITY AS POSSIBLE.

NOW WITH THAT, OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE'VE HAD A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF SUCCESS. WE HAVE IDENTIFIED SOME SUCCESS. SOMEBODY CAN ENTER THE CITY FROM PRESENT GEORGE BUSH AND SAY, COMMIT A CRIME AND LEAVE THE COMMUNITY WITHOUT NOTIFICATIONS BEING MADE. SO WE HAVE SOME GOOD SERVICE WITH SOME OF THE GAPS.

SO WITH THAT, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE FOR BETTER THAN A YEAR.

IN FY26 WE GOT SOME MONEY APPROVED TO EXPAND ON THE CAMERA AS SOON AS, LICENSE PLATE READERS, BUT ALSO, BASICALLY LIVE VIDEO CAMERAS. APPLIED FOR A PLANT BUT THE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. WE WERE PLEASED THAT WE WERE AWARD APPROXIMATELY $40,000 FOR LIVE CAMERAS AND LPR CAMERAS. SO WE DO HAVE PLANS TO EXPAND AND FILL-IN SOME OF OUR GAPS PARTICULARLY IN SOME OF OUR THOROUGHFARES, SOME OF THE STREETS THAT ARE NOT COVERED.

>> HOW MUCH IS EACH CAMERA? >> EACH CAMERA IS 4,000, $3000. >> OF THE 40,000, HOW MUCH THAT

GING TO GIVE US? >> THAT'S ONE-TIME FUNDING, GOOD QUESTION.

SO THE PLAN THAT WE'VE BEEN PUTTING IN PLACE AND THAT'S MY NEXT BULLET POINT.

WE'VE BEEN WORK WITHING PUBLIC WORKS AS WELL AS THE LIBRARY TO TELL US WHERE IS THE BEST PLACES THAT THEY CAN GET ACCESS TO THE LIVE VIDEO CAMERAS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS WE'VE GOT THE LICENSE PLATE. AND IT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO BUY VIDEO, SO THINK OF A POLL VIDEO, YOU WORK TO THROUGH HER BUDGET WHERE SHE COULD FUND WITH REGARD WITH A CAMERA. SAME THING FOR PARKS. ONE OF THE CAMERAS WOULD BE PLACED AND LIVE VIDEO. THESE ARE JUST LIKE ANY SURVEILLANCE VIDEO CAMERA.

BUT IT WOULD BE TIED INTO THE FLOCK SYSTEM. >> AND HOW MANY OF THE 32 ARE --

~>> OF THE A DISHL 32 IS 16LPR AND THE REMAINING IS LIVE VIDEO. BECAUSE IT'S A ONE-TIME MONEY, WE WOULD HAVE THESE INSTALLED OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR AND ASSESS THE LIABILITY OF OCCURRING EXPENSE. IF WE DON'T HAVE VALLEY, WE STOP MAKING THE PAYMENT AND WE

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AN INVESTMENT BEYOND THIS YEAR. >> WILL THE LIVE VIDEO, YOU TALK ABOUT THE LIBRARY.

ARE THE FEEDS GOING TO BE AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR CONSTANTLY MONITORED FOR EXAMPLE AT THE LIBRARY. WE'VE GOT CAMERAS OUT THERE. WILL THE PEOPLE WILL THE PEOPLE

THAT WORK AT THE LIBRARY BE ABLE TO ACCESS IT? >> GOOD QUESTION.

THEY WILL BE GIVEN TO DIRECTORS WHO WANT ACCESS TO THE CAMERAS. LIKE IN PUBLIC WORKS, THEY EXPERIENCED THEFT. THEY HELPED US IDENTIFY I THINK IT'S SIX LOCATIONS AT PUBLIC WORKS FACILITIES. AND THAT PERSON AND ANYONE ELSE THEY WANTED ACCESS TO THOSE LIVE VIDEO CAMERAS WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS. SO LAURA WILL BE ABLE TO MONITOR HER CAMERA AS WELL AS OUR DISPATCH CENTER WILL BE TIED IN BUT THIS IS REALLY, IT'S GIVING US A VIDEO OF THE STRUCTURE. WE HAVE THE CAMERA TRAILER THAT WAS THE FIRST EFFORT THAT WE GOT ON THE GRANT. IT GIVES US THAT LIVE VIDEO FEED. NOW WE HAVE LIVE VIDEO THAT WE CAN LOOK BACK ON AND POTENTIALLY BE ABLE TO SOLVE THE CRIME OR CAPTURE A SUSPECT BECAUSE OF THE VIDEO.

NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT FUTURE, I WAS JUST TALKING TO THE MANAGER ABOUT STUFF LIKE CAMERAS THAT WE MAY HAVE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. AND WE'LL PIPE THIS INTO ONE SYSTEM WHERE WE CAN TIE IT ALL

IN THE SCREEN AND SEE EVERY CAMERA IN THE CITY. >> SO WHO IS MONITORING THESE

CAMERAS? IS IT 24-HOUR MONITORING? >> NO NOT 24-HOUR MONITORING.

JUST LIKE THE SURVEILLANCE, DASHBOARD IS UP IN YOUR DISPATCH CENTER, THEY CAN TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND THE FACILITY BUT THEY HAVE THEIR PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY. NAIR GOING TO MONITOR THE CAMERAS LIKE WE'LL BE IN REALTIME CRIME CENTER WHERE THEY'RE MONITORING 24 HOURS A DAY, THAT WILL NOT BE THE CASE.

WHAT WOULD BE THE CASE IS WHEN YOU'RE OFFICERS ARE DISPATCHED TO A CALL AND WE KNOW WE HAVE A, A VIDEO CAMERA ON MAIN STREET, THEY CAN PULL OFF THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND BRING THEIR CAMERA ON THE NDT AND SEE WHAT IS GOING ON BEFORE THEY RESPOND.

>> SO ON THIS LIVE CAMERAS, THAT WOULD BE DOWNTOWN, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT THEM.

DO THEY RECORD AND FOR HOW LONG? >> THEY DO RECORD AND MAINTAIN THE DATA JUST LIKE THE LPRS FOR

30 DAYS. AFTER 30 DAYS. >> IT'S NOT RECORDING, NON STOP?

RIGHT? >> IT REWRITES ITSELF? >> YES.

>> SO IT DOES RECORD FOR 24 HOURS AND I'M CONFUSED WHY THEY WANT TO MONITOR LIVE FEED

CAMERAS WHEN I SEE THAT AS A JOB OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. >> SO WELL, WHAT I'LL TELL YOU WHEN WE MET WITH EACH DEPARTMENT AND ASKED THEM IF THEY WERE INTERESTED IN PARTNERING WITH US, ON, THE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LIVE VIDEO CAMERAS AND THE LPRS WERE PART OF THE FY26 GENERAL FUND ALLOCATION, THE 56,000. SO REGARDLESS OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENT'S INVOLVEMENT, WE WERE GOING TO PUT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LIVE VIDEOS EXPANDED IN THE CITY AND ON TO THE PARKS AND ON MAIN STREET. SINCE WE GOT THE GRANT, THAT GAVE US ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE ITEMS TO EXPAND BEYOND THAT. SO WE ASKED IF THEY WERE INTERESTED IN HELPING US FUND AFTER THE FIRST YEAR. WE HAVE THEM COVERED WITH THE GRANT AND GENERAL FUND MONEY. THE QUESTION TO THESE DIRECTORS IS ARE YOU INTERESTED IN FUNDING THOSE FOR YOUR FACILITIES, AND PUBLIC WORKS AND BEYOND THAT FIRST YEAR.

AND THEY WERE ALL VERY INTERESTED IN THAT. NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO MONITOR 24-7 EITHER, BUT IF WE HAVE A MAJOR INCIDENT LET'S SAY AT COMMUNITY PARK.

THIS WEEKEND, WE HAD KID FISH, WE WOULD HAVE IS THE ABILITY TO HAVE LIVE VIDEO AND LPRS UP IN THAT AREA OF TOWN AND WE CAN GO BACK AND WATCH THAT VIDEO FEED AND SEE THE VEHICLE ACTUALLY COMING INTO THE PARK AND THE LPRS WILL CAPTURE THE PLATE, AND GET A HIT OFF THE PLATE.

>> SO WILL THE VIDEO FEED SAY FROM DOWNTOWN, THAT WILL BE AT THE LIBRARY BUT ALSO AT THE

POLICE DEPARTMENT? OR IN THE LIBRARY. >> IT'S ALL WEB BASE?

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THEY CAN MONITOR THEIR OWN CAMERAS IF THEY WANT TO. >> CAN I ADD ONE THING TO DO

THAT, PLEASE? >> YES. >> SO WE HAD SOME SITUATIONS IN FRONT OF THE LIBRARY AND AFTERNOON HOUR ESPECIALLY WITH THE KIDDOS GETTING OUT OF SCHOOL. SO WE'VE BEEN STAFFING THAT WITH TWO POLICE OFFICERS.

WE HAD ONE OVER ON THIS END FOR TWO-HOUR BLOCK, WE GOT SOME FUNDS THAT PAYS FOR THE GLOIMENT. --DEPLOYMENT. SO IF, IF AN OPPORTUNITY TO PULL BACK FROM SOME OF THE DEPLOYMENT THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, I CAN SEE THAT AS BEING A BENEFIT. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT BUT IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN RESPOND TO THE SITUATION THAT WE DEAL WITH.

IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. >> I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY, YOU'RE GOING TO TALK AND LET'S JUST USE THE LIBRARY. PUT THE SYSTEM IN PLACE AND LOOK AT IT FOR A YEAR.

WOULD IT COME OUT OF THEIR BUDGET FOR EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS IF THEY WANT TO?

>> YES, SIR. THAT'S WHY WE MET WITH THEM TO ASK THEM IF THEY WANTED TO PARTNER WITH US. WE GOT THE FIRST YEAR COVERED KIND OF TREAT IT LIKE A TRIAL.

SO TEXAS LAW DOES NOT RECOGNIZE EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY IN PUBLIC VIEW AND THE SAME IS TRUE FOR THE CAMERAS SAY ON THE PRESENCE OF GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE.

EVERY MUST BE TIED TO CRIMINAL OFFENSE. THE LOG IN INFO IS TRACKED, SO THE OFFICER HAS A LOG IN, THAT INFO IS TRACKED AND THE OFFENSE TYPE IS RECORDED.

SUPERVISOR CAN SEE WHICH OFFICER RAN WHICH PLATE AND WHY. IT'S RETAINED FOR ONLY 30 DAYS.

THAT'S A BIG POINT PF EMPHASIS. THERE IS A LOT OF MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT THAT.

THAT MEANS THAT IS PERMANENTLY DELETED FROM THE CLOUD BASE SYSTEM.

>> QUICK QUESTION. DOES THAT CAPTURE THE LICENSE PLATE OR ALSO THE DRIVER?

>> GOOD QUESTION, AGAIN. SO IT WILL CAPTURE A PHOTOGRAPHIC IMAGE SOMETIMES OF THE BACK OF THE CAR AND SOMETIMES OF THE FRONT OF THE CAR.

WE'VE HAD FROM ACTUAL INCIDENTS, YOU CAN SEE A SILHOUETTE OF A HUMAN BEING, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SEE SOME HAIR, WE'VE SEEN IT BEFORE, WHERE WE CAN SEE A TARP IN THE BACK OF THE TRUCK SO THAT CAN HELP US IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, AN ITEM THAT WAS IN THE BACK OF THE VEHICLE. FWU DOES NOT CAPTURE FACIAL PHOTOGRAPHS.

>> CORRECT. OUR DEPARTMENT USE OF THIS TECHNOLOGY INTENDED TO SUPPORT AND BENEFIT THE CITY OF ROWLETT WHILE IMPACTS OF CIVIL RIGHTS AND COMMUNITIES.

ALPRS DO NOT COLLECT INFORMATION. THE TECHNOLOGY DOES NOT EMPLOY FACIAL RECOGNITION. THEY ARE NOT ACTIVELY MONITORED BUT VIEWED IN RESPONSE TO AN ALERT. THE INFORMATION TAKEN FROM ALPRS IS USED ONLY AFTER THE FACT ONLY AFTER A QUALIFYING CRIME, A HOMICIDE A MISSING WANTED PERSON AND THE LIST GOES ON. AND ONLY WHEN A LEGIT TRACK INSIST.

TO VIEW VEHICLES IN PUBLIC AREAS WHERE THE LICENSE PLATE AND VEHICLES ARE EXPOSED TO PUBLIC VIEW. BECAUSE THE DATA VIEW, WITHOUT A REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY, NO SEARCH HAS TAKEN PLACE UNDER THE FOURTH AMENDMENT.

THEREFORE, IT WILL NOT BE VIOLATED. >> DO YOU HAVE A POLICY, FOR

THE LIVE FEED CAMERAS? >> SO, WE WILL INCORPORATE ADDITIONAL ONCE WE HAVE THEM, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE ON BOARDING OF THE LIVE VIEW. IF, IF WE DO GO GO WITH FLOCK, LIVE VIEW CAMERAS IT'S NOT PERFECT TO ANY PARTICULAR VENDOR BUT THAT IS LIKELY WHAT IT WILL BE. THEN WE WILL INCORPORATE THE USE OF THOSE LIVE VIDEO FEEDS

INTO OUR EXISTING POLICY. >> WILL YOUR POLICY BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO THE LIBRARY IF

WE'RE USING IT? >> WILL OUR POLICY REACH OUT TO THE LIBRARY?

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>> YEAH, CAN YOU HOLD THEM FOR BAD BEHAVIOR? >> YES, THE SAFE GUARDS WILL APPLY TO ANY DEPARTMENT THAT IS UTILIZING THE TECHNOLOGY IN THE SAME WAY THAT WE HAVE IS THE

ABILITY MEASURES. >> THE WAY I REMEMBER THAT CAMERA, IT HAS A HOME POSITION UNTIL YOU MOVE IT. SXL THEN THAT THING CAN COME IN VERY CLOSE ON THINGS AND SEE

THINGS. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> SOME OF THOSE THINGS CONCERN M THAT WE CAN GET IN TROUBLE, I WOULD RATHER GO TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND DON'T HAVE TO

TOUCH THE OTHER BUDGETS TO FUND A POLICE NEED. >> AND WE CERTAINLY GOOD, COUNCILMEMBER GIBBS. THE WAY TO FUND IT, WE GOT IT COVERED THE FIRST YEAR.

WE CAN AUGMENT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO COVER THAT AND NOT HAVE THAT IMPACT.

THAT WAS THE DECISION OF THE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER TO INCORPORATE THAT.

>> TOO MANY HANDS MESSING WITH THE CAMSED RAZ IS NOT GOOD EITHER.

SO MANY PEOPLE CHECKING IT OUT, TRYING TO LEARN HOW TO PLAY WITH IT, AND SEE HOW IT WORKS AND STUFF. I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

>> WHY? >> BECAUSE THE CAMERA R YOU --CAMERA, YOU COULD BE ZOOMING IN, I KNOW YOU'RE IN PUBLIC BUT DO YOU WANT A LIBRARY TO ZOOM IN ON A BUNCH OF STUFF.

>> IF THERE ARE KIDS VAND LIESING THE PARK BENCH. >> I WOULD PREFER A POLICE OFFICER WATCHING THAT NOT A LIBERIAN. LIBRARIAN.

>> SO A GOOD EXAMPLE IS A MAJOR VANDALISM, SAY A TRUCK GOES AND DOES DONUTS AND TEARS ONE OF OUR PARKS. HAVING THE LPR AND LIVE VIDEO ACCESS AND FOR THE DIRECTOR SAY AT PUBLIC WORKS, CAN SET UP A SPECIFIC ALERT THAT HE WANTS, BEYOND JUST AN ALERT THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT COULD GET FROM AN LPR, SO IT CAN BE CUSTOMIZED IN THAT SENSE TO ADDRESS CRIMES THAT ARE HAPPENING OR TO GET NOTIFICATIONS THAT THEY WANT TO

HAVE FOR THEIR DEPARTMENTS. >> JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT. >> I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE CAMERAS INSIDE INCLUDING THE LIBRARY. THEY'VE BEEN HELPFUL IN ALLOWING THE LIBRARY THEFT THAT HAVE OCCURED AND ALSO TO IDENTIFY BEHAVIOR THAT THEY NEED TO ADDRESS. SO THAT HAS BEEN A VALUABLE, OF COURSE THIS IS A POLICY DECISION ON THEIR BEHALF, ABOUT WHAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.

I'M NOT SURE THAT, IT MATTERS WHETHER YOU HAVE A POLICE OFFICER JUST WAITING.

>> NOT MANY CITIES HAVE IT, THE LIBRARY USES OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT USES IT.

>> WITHIN THE BUILDING? >> THE FLOCK CAMERA TO MONITOR OUTSIDE.

THIS IS AN EXPENSIVE CAMERA TO USE FOR A LIBRARIAN TO USE IT. MY THING IS, LEAVE IT IN THE

POLICE HANDS DON'T TASK ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT TO DO THIS JOB. >> PUBLIC WORKS IS ALREADY, THEY WERE ALREADY LOOKING AT THEIR PURCHASING THEIR OWN CAMERAS BECAUSE IT'S THE THEFTS. IT'S PERFECT TIMING, IT WOULD NOT MAKE SENSE FOR THEM TO GO WITH A DIFFERENT VENDOR A SYSTEM THAT DOES NOT INTEGRATE WITH STRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE.

S JUST A THOUGHT ON THAT. >> I TEND TO AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER GIBBS, THAT IS

GOING TO BE A POLICE TO INVESTIGATE THAT FAMILY? >> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> IS THERE AN OPTION TO SOUNDS LIKE, COUNCILMEMBER GIBBS IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE ACTUAL MANIPULATION OF THE CAMERAS BY DIRECTORS. CAN YOU LET THE CAMERAS SET UP STATIC WHERE IT'S JUST A STRAIGHT FEED, THEY'RE NOT ZOOMING IN OR TURNING AROUND, MAYBE THAT WOULD DELAY THAT A LITTLE BIT SO THEY STILL HAVE VISIBILITY OF WHAT IS GOING ON AND MAYBE, TO YOUR POINT, MAYBE SOME OF THE MORE DETAIL KIND OF STUFF.

IMMEDIATELY THAT'S TAKING ADVANTAGE, YOU DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY LOOKING AT EVERY SCREEN. THEY SEE SOMETHING AND THE PARKS SEE SOMETHING, THEY CAN CALL YOU, FOR THE RESPONSE. AND IF IF THE CONCERN IS THEN MANIPULATING CAMERAS, THEN HAVE

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STATIC CAMERAS MIDDLE GROUND. >> THEY'RE HIGHLY CUSTOMIZABLE. I DON'T EXACTLY.

>> I'M AN ADMINISTRATOR WITH WITH THE NETWORK, I CAN SET IT UP WHERE IT CAN CANNOT BE MANIPULATED. SO THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT CAN MANIPULATE IT WOULD BE US.

IF THAT'S THE ROUTE YOU WANT TO GO. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> OKAY, SO WE'RE OPERATING IN THE LEGAL BOUNDARIES APPROVED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ONLY. FLOCK IS NOT A FORM OF MASS SURVEILLANCE.

RECEIVED DATA WITH ONE FEDERAL PARTNER AT THE U.S. POSTAL SERVICE.

WE CAN GRANT ACCESS OF OUR FLOCK DATE TO ASSIST OUT OF STATE LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS.

BUT WE CURRENTLY DO NOT SHARE WITH OUT OF STATE AGENCIES UNLESS WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED A REQUEST AND APPROVED THOSE. SO HERE'S A MAP THAT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW EXPANSIVE THE FLOCK NETWORK IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. SO THAT UPPER LEFT IS IS THE MOST HELPFUL AND THAT'S WITH REGARD TO ALL THE FLOCK, ALL THE CAMERAS AND AGENCIES DEPLOYED, BLUE IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND RED IS THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

SO IT'S, THAT'S PRETTY EXPENSIVE ESPECIALLY IN CENTRAL AND NORTH TEXAS.

AS I MENTIONED, FLOCK DOES NOT CAPTURE FACES. WE HAVE A ROBUST POLICY WHICH ADDRESSES, ACCOUNTABILITY AND PRIVATELY AND FUNDED SYSTEMS AS WELL AS RELEASE OF DATA.

FLOCK DOES PROVIDE DATA UPON LEGAL REQUESTS WITH NOTIFICATION, MEANING IF THEY GET A SUBPOENA, THEY'RE GOING TO OF COURSE NOTIFY THE AFFECTED AGENCY WHEN NECESSARY.

FLOCK IS NOT A ICE SHARER. I MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT WE SHARE WITH--OOPS, SORRY ABOUT

THAT, I'M GOING THE WRONG WAY. >> ICE IS NOT A FLOCK MEMBER? IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID?

>> YES. WE DO SHARE WITH THE POSTAL INSPECT INSPECTOR AND THAT'S WHAT I ASKED WHY POSTAL? BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN FRAUD. THERE IS NO SAILOR COMMERCIAL SHARING, WE CAN APPROVE OR REVOKE SHARING AT ANY TIME BASED ON POLICY AND STATE LAW.

THERE IS A COUPLE OF QR CODES FOR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO KNOW MORE ABOUT FLOCK PRIVACY AND ETHICS AND LEGAL RESOURCES. NOW I TURNOVER TO DEMORRIS. SO IN 2025, DECEMBER, FAIRLY RECENTLY WASHINGTON STATE HAD A LAWSUIT, THE LAWSUIT WAS REQUIRED THAT FLOCK TO PROVIDE RAW DATA IN RESPONSE TO A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST. THERE IS SOME MISINFORMATION ABOUT THIS AS WELL ONLINE AND OUT IN THE INTERNET. THE MATTER WAS NOT RESULT OF A HACK OR DATA BREACH, IT WAS REQUEST SO THEY HAD TO PROVIDE DATA IN RESPONSE TO THAT.

FLOCK IMMEDIATELY NOTIFIED ALL, FLOCK AGENCIES INCLUDING OUR DEPARTMENT.

AND PROVIDED US GUIDANCE AND AT THAT TIME, THE GUIDANCE WAS TO LIMIT, OR PREVENT OUT OF STATE SEARCHING. SO OUR NATIONWIDE SEARCHING WAS DISABLED AT THE TIME.

AS FAR AS DATA SECURITY AND COMPLIANCE, FLOCK DOES NOT SELL DATA.

AND IT MEETS OR EXCEEDS NATIONAL SECURITY STANDARDS INCLUDING ALL OF THOSE, VERY

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IMPORTANT IN THE CYBERSECURITY WORLD REQUIREMENTS. >> CAN YOU TELL US ALL THE

ACRONYMS. >> I WAS WAITING FOR THAT QUESTION.

I WROTE THEM ALL DOWN. >> NOW ON TO SOME SUCCESSES. ALL RIGHT, WE'VE HAD A QUITE A FEW SUCCESSES WITH FLOCK HAVING BEEN IMPLEMENTED AND I WANTED TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON A COUPLE OF CASES. HOW FLOCK ASSISTED US WITH THESE INVESTIGATIONS AND SUBSEQUENT ARREST IF YOU WILL. SO IN THE DUNKIN DONUT, A SUSPECT ARRIVED, KILLED A VICTIM AND THEN HEAD THE SCENE. RPD UNITS HAD A DESCRIPTION OF THE VEHICLE BUT NOT THE LICENSE PLATE. YOU CAN USE DES S DISCRIPTER AND HE WAS CAUGHT WITHIN 24 HOURS. A LOVE TRIANGLE TRAVELED HERE TO MURDER HIS GOI AND THEN DROVE BACK. WE HAD AT THIS POINT, A POSSIBLE SUSPECT AND A PLATE.

THAT WAS PLATE WAS UTILIZED TO ESTABLISH TRAVEL PATTERNS WITH THE FLOCK SYSTEM, NOT JUST WITHIN ROWLETT BUT OUT OF ROWLETT. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, TRINITY COUNTY, WE WERE ABLE BETWEEN HERE AND THERE WITH THE PLACE THAT'S DO HAVE THEM TO GET A TRAVEL PATTERN WHERE MAKE THE DETERMINATION WHEN THEY ARRIVED AND LEFT.

THAT SUSPECT WAS ARRESTED WITHIN 24 HOURS IN FACT. VEHICLE STILL HAD THE MURDER WEAPON IN THE BACK OF THE CAR. 7-ELEVEN 2024 THIS WAS AN AGGRAVATED ASSAULT WHERE THE SUSPECT PULLED A FIREARM, THEY USED DATA FROM THIS INCIDENT, TYPED IT INTO FLOCK AND ABLE TO GET A DIRECTION OF TRAVEL AND THE SUSPECT WAS APPREHENDED AT THE LOCAL KFC ACROSS TOWN.

THE WALMART FIRING, OPENED UP IN THE KNOWN ASSOCIATED IN THE WALMART PARKING LOT IN THE CITY AND THEN FLED. WITNESSES, A BUNCH OF WITNESSES THEY WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE A LICENSE PLATE AND FLOCK WAS USED TO SHOW WHEN THE VEHICLE EXITED AND ENTERED THE CITY.

THE TIME FRAMES FIT WHICH IS TREMENDOUS WHEN YOU'RE TYPING UP WARRANTS AND GOING TO AFFECT THE ARREST AND GETTING THE PROBABLE CAUSE LINED UP. WITNESSES PROVIDED THE LICENSE PLATE IN THIS CASE, THE LICENSE HAS BEEN CHARGED AND ARRESTED. WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF OUTSTANDING INDIVIDUALS PURSUING THOSE INDIVIDUALS AS WELL.

AND THEN THE COUNTERFEIT TRAIN MARK ABOUT A MONTH AGO, THAT WAS ONE THAT GAINED ATTENTION.

FLOCK WAS VERY USEFUL IN THIS CASE AS WELL. WE HAD A SUSPECT WHO WAS IN OUR RADAR FOR DEALING COUNTERFEIT GOODS, LOUIE VUITTON PURSES, ONE OF THE PICTURES WAS OUR SUSPECT WITH A PICKUP TRUCK AND IN THE BACK PELLET FULL OF COUNTERFEIT PURSES WHICH IS GREAT EVIDENCE WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO FILE A CASE AGAINST AN INDIVIDUAL FOR AN OFFENSE SUCH AS THIS. FLOCK WAS USED WHERE THE SUSPECT WOULD BE AND TRAFFIC STOP WAS CONDUCTED AND SUBSEQUENTLY, WE WERE ABLE TO GET 62,000 ITEMS AND SEIZED $200,000 IN CURRENCY AND A CHEVY SILVERADO. AND WE'RE WAITING FOR THOSE AWARDED. AND FINALLY, A SITUATION OUT OF GARLAND, IT'S NOT A BIG CASE IF YOU WILL, BUT I LIKE IT IT'S IMPORTANT, I THINK THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE IT HIGHLIGHTS THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE ROWLETT POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR SURROUNDING AGENCIES ESPECIALLY AN AGENCY LIKE GARLAND. THIS SPECIFIC SITUATION A CAR WAS STRUCK AND THE SUSPECT TOOK OFF. WE HAD A PROACTIVE NIGHT SHIFT OFFICER WHO SPENT A COUPLE OF EVENINGS FOR THAT OFFICER TO HIT.

HE WAS ABLE TO INTERCEPT THE REGISTERED OWNER OF THAT VEHICLE WHO HAPPENED TO BELIEVE

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IT'S SIMPLE THINGS LIKE THIS BUT IT GOES A LONG WAY AND LIKE I SAID, SUCCESS STORIES THAT WE'VE HAD AS AN ORGANIZATION. WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT? I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE IMPACT IS TREMENDOUS. WE USE FLOCK WELL OVER 1,000 TIMES.

IT'S ASSISTED US IN DIFFERENT INVESTIGATIONS, IT'S REDUCED OUR NEEDS FOR EXTENDED SURVEILLANCE WHICH SAVES THE OFFICER TIME AND MANPOWER. IN ADDITION, IT ALLOWS TO US DEPLOY OUR RESOURCES MUCH BETTER. WE'RE ALL LIMITED IN WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE CAN DO AND LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THIS IS A FORCE MULTIPLIER AND ALLOWS OUR OFFICERS TO REMAIN VISIBLE AND PROACTIVE WHICH OUR CITIZENS LOVE AND IT'S BEEN AFFECTIVE IN

REDUCTION OF DMVS WHICH CHIEF IS ABOUT TO SPEAK TO. >> ANY QUESTIONS ON THE

INCIDENTS? >> 536 IS THAT ALL ROWLETT INVESTIGATION OR OTHER AGENCIES?

>> THOSE ARE OUR CASES. FROM MINOR PROPERTY OFFENSES ALL THE WAY UP TO BIG ONES AND

THAT'S OVER THE COURSE OF THREE YEARS. >> SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF CRIME IN ROWLETT. WITH THE SUPPORT OF COUNCIL, WE'VE BEEN REALLY FOCUSING ON PROACTIVE LEASING BUT ALSO EXPANDING OUR TECHNOLOGY AND PROGRAMS LIKE DDACTS COUPLED WITH THIS TECHNOLOGY HAS HAD A TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON CRIME. AND I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO SPECIFICALLY BMBS HERE, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE FULL CALENDAR YEAR OF 2025.

THE YEAR PRIOR WE HAD 102BNB, IN 202510--IN 2026, 104 WHICH IS 25 PERCENT DOWN.

MOTOR VEHICLE THEFT IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE ONE OF OUR CHALLENGES.

WE'VE SEEN JUST SINCE 2024, WE'VE SEEN A REDUCTION OF 46 PERCENT IN OUR STOLEN VEHICLES.

BUT WHAT IS EVEN MORE IMPACTFUL IS IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT MORE VEHICLE THEFT GOING BACK TO 21-22, WE HAD A 100 PERCENT INCREASE. WE EMPLOYED FLOCK TECHNOLOGY IN JANUARY OF 2026. --2023 PLUS ALL OF OUR CRIME REDUCTION TECHNOLOGY OUR OFFICERS BEING VISIBLE AND DOING ALL HANDS-ON INITIATIVES AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO SEE THIS, THIS TREND GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WITH REGARDS TO OUR PROPERTY CRIME.

PROBABLY THE MOST ACTIVATIONS THAT WE DID FOR OFFICERS IS GOING TO BE RELATED TO STOLEN MORE VEHICLES. SO WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE SUCCESSES AND IT'S NOT JUST THE OFFICERS BEING HIGHLY VISIBLE BUT WHEN YOU COMBINE THAT ALTOGETHER, THESE ARE INCREDIBLE CRIME RESULTS OVERALL WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR OVERALL PROPERTY AND VIOLENT

CRIME. >> AS FAR AS INFORMATIONAL, WE'RE NOT REQUESTING ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING AT THIS TIME. AND THAT IS ALL WE HAVE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> APPRECIATE IT. >> SERGEANT, CONGRATULATIONS. THANKS FOR MAKING IT OUT.

MAYBE IT'S A GREAT BREAK. I ASKED THIS TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA I HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE REACH OUT AND YOU EXPLAINED IT. THE WAY IT'S BEING USED, IT'S VERY RESPONSIBLE MANNER AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S VERY AFFECTIVE. WE WANT THE BOYS IN BLUE TO CATCH THE BAD GUYS AND WE WANT THAT WITHOUT NEGATIVELY INVADING PRIVACY. I HAVE A FEW TECHNICAL QUESTIONS AND ALSO JUST SOME POLICIES COMMENTS AS WE LOOK AT THIS FUTURE.

ONE MAY SEEM A LITTLE BIT FARFETCHED BUT I RECENTLY REACHED A VIDEO AND IT DISCUSSED HOW, FLOCK CAN DETECT PEOPLE, PEOPLE INSIDE VEHICLES. AND THAT COULD BE A CERTAIN.

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THE FUTURE? >> WELL, WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY, IS REGARD TO THE CAPABILITY OF THE SYSTEM, IF WE WERE GOING TO START TO LOOK AT TECHNOLOGY THAT WENT BEYOND WHAT WE PRESENTED TODAY AND WHAT IT ALLOWED, THAT WOULD BE ABOUT ANY FUTURE INTEGRATION AND NEW FEATURES THAT COULD HAVE SOME CONCERNS. THAT OUR SYSTEM MAY HAVE

CONCERNS. >> MY CONCERN IS SNOW CREEK AND ALL THE OF A SUDDEN, WE LIVED IN 1984 AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANT THAT. YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING IS, I SAW RECENTLY THAT FLOCK WAS IN POIP WITH GRAY CAMERA. AND I THINK IT WAS SUPER BOWL ADD AND THEY GOT PUSH BACK AND THEY SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.

ALL OF SUR VEILING, MAYBE NONE OF US ARE IMPORTANT ENOUGH BUT PEOPLE THAT ARE IMPORTANT ENOUGH. AND THEY HAD A HACK AND, WHAT THE VIDEO SAID, AND IT SAID THAT SOME, NO THIS IS NOT ROWLETT, IT'S JUST ON YOUTUBE AND THAT KIND OF THING.

THEY WERE BEING USED WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT WITHOUT SUBPOENA. AND SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A TYPE OF HOW THIS IS BEING USED HERE. I DON'T WANT ANY OF UZ TO SEE AT MY FRONT DOOR.

I HAD A TOUGH GRANDMA, SHE COULD BE ROUGH, AND WHEN I ASKED A QUESTION AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO ANSWER, IS THAT IS NOT DANIELLE'S BUSINESS. ANYWAY, I JUST WANT TO ENSURE THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE, THE DATA THAT IS COLLECTED IS ONLY WHEN IT'S NECESSARY, I JUST WANT TO

CONFIRM THAT HERE? ONLY WHEN THERE IS AN ALERT. >> YES, ANYTIME THERE IS AN ALERT OR ANYTIME THE OFFICERS USE A LOG-IN, THEY HAVE TO ENTER THE REASON AND THERE IS A DROP DOWN NOW THAT TIES IT TO THE TYPE OF CASE THEY'RE INVESTIGATING.

>> PERFECT. >> THAT DOES NOT GO WITH THE LIVE VIDEO.

THE LIVE VIDEO IS SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. >> CORRECT.

AND I GUESS WHEN THIS AGENDA CAME OUT, A RESIDENT SENT ME A YOUTUBE VIDEO, AND I WATCHED IT, AND APPARENTLY, THERE IS A LITTLE GROUP OF PEOPLE OUT THAT LIKE TO HALF BLOCK CAMERAS, THEY GOT DEVICE THAT'S CAN GO WITH A BLUE TOOTH TECHNOLOGY AND ACTUALLY FIND THE INDIVIDUAL FLOCK CAMERA WHERE EVER IT'S AT AND THEY CAN HACK THAT DATA.

IS THERE CYBER, I SAW ALL THE ACRONYMS BUT ON THIS YOUTUBE, THEY'RE SAYING, THERE IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT HACK THAT FOR WHATEVER REASON. DO WE HAVE CYBERSECURITY AROUND

SO WE'RE NOT ALLOWING RANDOM PEOPLE? >> YEAH.

>> IT'S ENCRYPTED AND ANY INFORMATION T COMES BACK TO ME WHILE I'M REVIEWING.

SO I CAN SEE WHO ACCESSED WHEN AND HOW AND WHERE. >> SO EVEN IF IT WAS A OUTSIDE

BREACH? >> YES, I CAN SEE WHERE IT CAME FROM.

I WAS GOING TO TOUCH ON ONE THING, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IT EARLIER, BECAUSE OF ME BEING IN THE FLOCK PROGRAM FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, I THINK IT IS NOW.

I'VE GOT A LOT OF CONNECTIONS INSIDE. THEY HAVE SAID THEY'RE WORKING ON SOME FACIAL RECOGNITION BUT IT'S NOT ANYWHERE NEAR DMOIMENT AND IT WOULD --DEPLOYMENT AND

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IT WOULD BE A CONTRACT INCREASE. >> AND IN PREPARATION, WE WOULD ASK FOR FLOCK'S LATEST AND GREATEST IN TERMS OF ANY INFORMATION WITH UPDATES REGARDING THEIR SECURITY SYSTEMS AND THINGS. AND THEY VERIFY THAT THERE IS BEEN NO HACKS OF THE SYSTEM.

THEY WANTED ONLY TIME, THAT INFORMATION WAS RELEASED WAS RESULT OF A LAWSUIT.

>> AND ON THAT NOTE, IS THERE A LIABILITY OR LEGAL IN THE STATE OF TEXAS REGARDING THE USE OF THIS TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF? OKAY.

IF THERE WERE AN ERROR LIKE IN THIS IDENTIFICATION THAT AN EASY PROCESS FOR RESIDENTS TO CONTEST? YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT TO, I DON'T KNOW, JUST CURIOUS IF THERE WAS? WE OFFER SPEEDING TICKETS FROM ANY OF THESE THINGS.

OR IS IT ONLY FOR MOTOR VEHICLE THEFT OR CRIME THAT WE'RE TRACKING?

I MAY HAVE WATCHED TOO MANY SCI-FI MOVIES. >> YOUR TEXAS LEGISLATURE WILL NOT LET YOU DO THAT. JUST LIKE THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS THAT WERE TAKEN AWAY.

WE'RE NOT TAKING RED LIGHT VIOLATIONS OR I DON'T KNOW, DRIVER'S DRIVING WITH A

VEHICLE OF THE WRONG COLOR AND WE'RE NOT HAPPY. >> BUT WE CAN ATTACH TO YOUR

RING DOOR BELL. >> WE'RE LIVING IN THE FUTURE. WE'RE REALLY LIVING NOW IN THE FUTURE OF MOVIES I GREW UP WITH, AND THIS IS STUFF THAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT IN THE MOVIES AND WE'RE NOW LIVING IT. ON THE 503 AGENCIES THAT HAVE SHARED DATA, I ASSUME AGENCIES.

>> DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICES, LAW ENFORCEMENT, CONSTABLES, IT'S IN TEXAS THAT WE'RE

SHARING WITH. >> OKAY, THAT'S PERFECT. AGAIN, KIND OF COMING INTO THIS AND HEARING, YOU ANSWERED SOME QUESTIONS. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

THE ONLY OTHER THING AND I'M GLAD IT'S BEING, AFFECTIVE AND I CAN SEE IT BEING ENFORCEABLE.

ONE THING FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE FOR COUNCIL AS WE ARE IN TRULY, TECHNOLOGY ADVANCING FASTER THAN WE CAN KEEP UP. I THINK IT WOULD BE UP FOR CONSIDERATION THAT EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS THE COUNCIL HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT IS BEING USED AND HOW IT'S BEING USED AND WHY IT'S BEEN USED, EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS.

WE HAVE A NEW COUNCIL BASICALLY EVERY TWO YEARS. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A HEALTHY CONVERSATION TO HAVE, AS A POLICY. JUST FOR US TO STAY ON TOP OF IT AND THEN HAVE THAT. SO REALLY NO CHANGES NOW FROM MY PERSPECTIVE BUT I THINK AS WE GO, IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS ON THE CALENDAR TO DISCUSS.

>> SO 52 TOTAL? LPRS? >> 36.

>> 36LPRS? >> 36. >>

>> EVERY DAY IS CHRISTMAS. >> SO A COUPLE OF FOLLOW-UP COMMENTS TO MR. REEVES BROUGHT UP. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE VIDEO, THE DATA FROM A CAM RA, DOES

THAT GO TO THE CITY OR DOES THAT GO TO FLOCK? >> THE DATA FROM?

>> FROM AN INDIVIDUAL CAMERA DOES IT GO TO FLOCK THE ENTITY AND THEN WE ACCESS FLOCK?

>> YEAH. >> THE DATA DOES NOT COME TO US. >> YEAH, IT'S ALL SERVER BASE.

>> TO YOUR POINT, THERE COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE OUT THERE THAT WE WOULD KNOW FROM OUR SIDE? AND OUR IT INFRASTRUCTURE, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ACCESSING

THE BUBBLE, THEY'RE ACCESSING A FLOCK IOT. >> --

~>> RIGHT THAT IS TALKING TO THE FLOCK SERVER. SO SING THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT

BUBBLES. >> I DON'T KNOW THE TECHNICAL PART.

SO I WOULD SAY IF THERE IS A CONCERN, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU MAY WANT TO BE AWARE OF.

MAYBE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. >> I DO.

WHEN A FLAG COMES ACROSS AND GOES IN THE CAR, TECHNOLOGY, WHATEVER, NA IS CALLED, YOU HAD AN ACRONYM FOR IT. THERE IS A LOT OF ACRONYMS, WHEN THAT SHOWS UP, DOES IT SHOW UP WITH THE PHOTO OF THE CAR SO THE OFFICER HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO IDENTIFY MAYBE

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THERE WAS A MISTAKE? >> IT DOES, BUT IT'S ALSO THE DUE DILIGENCE OF THE OFFICER.

>> NO OTHER, THAN THE DESCRIPTION AND THE OFFICER MAY PULL SOMEBODY OVER?

>> EXACT RE. --EXACTLY. TO GIVE YOU A DIRECTION TO GO WITH. BUT IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT SOMEBODY IS THAT STOPPED IS GUILTY OF SOME OFFENSE. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

>> SO, FLOCK YOU GOT A LIST OF NOTIFICATIONS THAT YOU CAN GIVE FROM THE MOST MISDEMEANOR TO THE HIGHEST PENALTY THERE IS. SO STOLEN VEHICLE, YOU CAN GET THE ALERTS ALL DAY.

YOU CAN GET AMBER ALL DAY LONG, WHENEVER YOU CHOOSE. AND WHEN IT COMES, YOU'LL HEAR A SOUND OFF, YOU'LL SEE, FLOCK ALERT AND IT SHOWS US AND IT'S THE DUE DILIGENCE AND THEY FIND THAT VEHICLE AND CONFIRM THAT'S THE VEHICLE WITH THE PLATE AND THEY RUN IT AGAIN AND YOU GET

CONFIRMATION. >> PERFECT. THANK YOU.

>> THERE WAS MADE MENTION OF POLICY FOR THE PTZ CAMERAS AND IT WOULD BE GREAT TO GET THE POLICY DEVELOPED SOONER THAN LATER. WE HAVE OTHER CAMERAS LIKE THE CAMERAS THAT WE USE, AND ALTHOUGH WE'RE NOT IN A FIX LOCATION, WE HAVE SIMILAR FASHION ON HOW WE INTEND TO USE THESE. SO THAT'S JUST MORE OF A COMMENT THAN QUESTION. SO SI ALSO MET WITH FOLKS, LEG POINT AND THIS IS KIND OF A BIGGER QUESTION THAN JUST THEIR SUGGESTION, ALTHOUGH THERE'S IS SOMEWHAT UNIQUE.

THEY WANT TO ADD A COUPLE OF FLOCK CAMERAS IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT WILL POINT AT THEIR ENTRANCE WITH THEIR FACILITY. SO I THINK THEY'RE TALK TO GO STAFF AND SPOKEN TO THEM HOW THAT WOULD WORK. THAT'S KIND OF A SEPARATE THING.

BUT IF WE HAVE, A HOA FOR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS IN THE CITY, SAY A BUSINESS THAT WANTS TO PUT FLOCK CAMERAS ON THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT WANTS POINTS. DOES THAT DATA, DO THEY HAVE TO

-- ~>> THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THAT REQUEST AND THEN, AND I

HAVE TO APPROVE THEIR REQUEST >> OKAY. BUT CAN AN HOA ON THEIR OWN

PURCHASE FLOCK? >> THEY CAN'T. >> OKAY.

>> I MEAN, ON THE FLOCK CAMERAS, I MEANT TO GET THIS A LONG TIME AGO.

IF YOU GOT A APARTMENT COMPLEX AND THEY'RE PRETTY GOOD, I WOULD COME IN THERE TOO.

IT'S NOT TO MONITOR THEM, IT'S TO SEE WHO IS COMING IN AND BURGLARIZING THEIR CARS AND BREAKING INTO THEIR APARTMENTS SO YOU KNOW THEY CAME IN THERE AND IT'S AN EXTRA LAYER OF STUFF. WE'VE HAD APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S HAVE TARGETED MANY MANY

TIMES FOR THEFTS AND STOLEN VEHICLES. >> IF I COULD, I'M GOING TO ADD ONE THING TO WHAT COUNCILMEMBER GIBBS SAID AND IT'S VERY COMMON FOR THIEVES TO GO STEAL A CAR TO GO COMMIT OFFENSES OR PUT STOLEN PLATES ON A CAR. IF THOSE, IF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX OR HOA OR WHAT HAVE YOU, HAS FLOCK CAMERA SET UP AND THAT INFORMATION IS BEING APPROVED TO SHARE, OFFICERS WOULD BE GETTING INFORMATION THAT SAYS FLOCK VEHICLE HAS ENTERED AND IT COULD RESPOND IN THERE TO INVESTIGATE, IF YOU WILL.

THERE IS LIKE I SAID, IT ADS TO THAT. THAT NETWORK.

>> ALL RIGHT, YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S OBVIOUSLY A TOUCHY SUBJECT.

I REALLY LOVE THE SUGGESTION OF HAVING THIS CONVERSATION FROM STAND POINT EVERY COUPLE OF

YEARS AND MAYBE EVEN MORE OFTEN THAN THAT. >> WOULD I SAY ANNUAL.

>> WITH HOW QUICKLY TECHNOLOGY CHANGES. BUT THESE ARE CLEARLY DOING A LOT OF GOOD WITH EVEN JUST THE CASES THAT WERE SHARED NOT TO MENTION THE SOME 500-ODD OTHER CASES. I'M GLAD THAT THEY'RE PART OF OUR ARSENAL TOOL THAT WE HAVE.

AND I THINK IT'S HAVING A BIG IMPACT. >> COUNCIL OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? FEEDBACK. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO MOVE ON TO

[3.B. Receive a presentation regarding the purchase of OpenGov Capital Budget & Project Management software.]

RECEIVE A PRESENTATION REGARDING THE PURCHASE OF OPENGOV CAPITAL BUDGET AND

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PROJECT MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE. >> SPEAKER: I'M DAVE LEEWITS DIRECTOR OF I.T.

TONIGHT I'LL BE PRESENTING A PROJECT APPLICATION. AND BEFORE LOOKING AT SOLUTIONS, IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES OF OUR CURRENT BUDGET MANAGEMENT PROCESS. SORRY. THANK YOU.

SO WITH THE BUSINESS ISSUE, CITY OF ROWLETT RELIES ON MANUAL RECONCILIATION AND ENGINEERING SINCE PROJECT EXECUTION AND FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY, ESPECIALLY WITH LARGE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. DEALING WITH SPREADSHEET, BUDGET TRACK ARING INCONSISTENT FINANCIAL DATA. LIMITED COLLABORATION, TRYING TO RUN LARGE PROJECTS WITH SPREAD SHEETS. PORTFOLIO OVERSIGHT, REPORTING ARE DIFFICULT. INSUFFICIENT TRANSPARENCY FOR RESIDENTS AND INCONSISTENT G.O.FACIAL CONTACT FOR PATIENTS FOR GIS MAPPING, INTEGRATED WITH NOT THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT PROCESS. SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BACKGROUND WHY I'M TALKING TODAY. TO FIND THE RIGHT SOLUTION, WE CONDUCTED A STRUCTURE AND COMPREHENSIVE, THANK YOU, NUMBER 2. ALL RIGHT.

WE CONDUCTED A COMPREHENSIVE EVALUATION PROCESS THAT INCLUDEDS COMPILING A LIST OF PRIORITIZED REQUIREMENT, SPECIFICALLY FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE'RE STARTING WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT FOR THIS. PROCESS REFERENCE REQUIREMENT AGAINST TOP PMIS AND THAT STANDS FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS, SELECTING FOUR CANDIDATES FOR DEMONSTRATION SESSIONS. SELECTION CRITERIA AMONG MANY OTHER PRIORITIZED REQUIREMENTS INCLUDING THE INTEGRATION WITH MUNIS AND PROVEN AND OUR ESRI MAPPING SYSTEMS. THAT WAS ONE OF THE CRITICAL FACTORS AS WELL.

OPEN GOV. EMERGED WITH CITY SYSTEMS AND FUNCTIONALITY. GOV.

OPEN GOV., OVER 100 SECTOR UTILIZE OPEN GOV. WITH LOCAL MUNICIPALITY INCLUDING PRO TELL WHO IS FINALIZING THEIR, THEIR IMPLEMENTATION WHO ALSO USES MUNIS AS WELL AND ALSO MCKENNY.

NEXT. OPENGOV PROVIDES A PLATFORM THAT ADDRESSES EVERY CHALLENGE THAT WE'VE OUTLINED. CENTRALIZED PROJECTS--THAT'S NOT ON THERE.

BUDGETS, CONTRACTS AND EXPENSES. PROVEN INTEGRATION WITH ERP. ESRI INTEGRATION FORMAT BASE PROJECT. LEADERSHIP AND COUNCIL DEPENDING ON YOUR SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS OUT OF THE DASH BOARDS. PORTFOLIO LEVELS DASHBOARDS, REALTIME BUDGET TO ACTUAL VISIBILITY. IMPROVE TRACKING OF MULTIPLE FUNDING SOURCE SOUTH SIDE. STANDARDIZED MILESTONE TRACKING. ENHANCE TRANSPARENCY AND PUBLIC REPORTING. AND SCALE TO SUPPORT FUTURE NON CIP PROJECTS.

SO IT'S NOT LIMITED TO ONE DEPARTMENT AND SPECIFICALLY TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

>> WHAT PROJ ?EKTS? >> WHAT KIND OF PROJECTS DOES IT COVER?

DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT? >> FOR EXAMPLE, IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS SOFTWARE IS A PROJECT.

SO ANYTIME YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT HAS MILD STONES AND STEPS, YOU CAN VOTE IT INTO THE SYSTEM

AND USE IT. >> I WAS READING IN HERE THAT THAT THIS GUY, LIGHT WEIGHT

INTEGRATION, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? >> IT MEANS, IT'S ACTUALLY IMPROVING, AND MORE AFFECTIVE TO BE INTEGRATED. IT'S A TOOL, A LOT OF PEOPLE

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OUR RIENCE HAS BEEN OPPOSITE, AND DIFFICULT TO INTEGRATE AND THAT INTEGRATION CAN BE BROKEN ANYTIME THEY UPDATE THE SYSTEM. EITHER TYLER SENDS AN UPDATE

AND WE HAVE TO RENEW IT. >> WE CAN OF SORT OF CAN GET IN THERE?

>> IT DOES NOT. VERSUS THE SYMPTOMIZABLE CONNECTION.

>> WHAT HE'S SAYING IS THEY GET TO THE DOOR AND DOES NOT OPEN. >> THIS IS WHY I GO TO OPENGOV, SOME ARE APPLICATION VENDORS OTHERS ARE APPLICATION AND INTEGRATE.

AND OPENGOV ALONG WITH BEING AN APPLICATION VENDOR. FOCUSED ON SPECIFICALLY

MUNICIPALITIES. AND ALSO OTHER GOVERNMENTS. >> I THINK THIS CONVERSATION IN RESPECT TO WHAT YOU AND I HAD, IS THIS A TOOL THAT IS GOING TO BE USED BY VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS

LIKEN JI KNEINGER? >> IT'S GOING TO START WITH ENGINEERING.

>> WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE DESIGNATED PROJECT MANAGERS. >> WE DO HAVE DESIGNATED CAPITAL PROJECTS. AND TEAMS THAT ARE MANAGING IT PROJECTS AS WELL.

IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO DO SOMETHING ELSE, EVEN IF YOU HAVE A PARKS DEPARTMENT THAT

TAKES ON A PROJECT. >> AND THERE ARE OUT VENDORS HAVE ACCESS TO THE PLATFORM?

TO LAYOUT THEIR MILESTONES AND THINGS LIKE THAT? >> THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO PUT IN, YOU KNOW, REQUEST FOR INFORMATION THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

WE DIDN'T GO WITH, WELL THE TOOLS WE MAY GO PRO CORE. PRO CORE IS A VERY PRO BUST SYSTEM USED BY PEOPLE WHO DO VERY COMPLEX VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.

AND IF YOU SAID AND WHAT IS PROJECT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, LOTS OF PRO CORE AS THE GOLD STANDARD. IT DOES A LOT OF THAT KIND OF THING WHERE BASICALLY YOU CAN HAVE SOME VENDORS OR CONTRACTORS PUT IN INFORMATION INTO A SYSTEM AND IT TRACKS THEM ALL THROUGH THE PROGRAM. THIS HAS SOME OF THE ACCU ABILITY.

WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY SUBS THAT WE HAVE TO MANAGE FOR US? AND I THINK OTHER PIECE, IT'S EXTREMELY ROBUST AND VERY COMPLEX? SO WE TRY TO KEEP A LEARNING CURVE HERE IN MANAGEMENT. SO SUCK NOT HANDLE THIS TOOL AND SAY, GO TAKE A COURSE AND MAYBE YOU DON'T WANT TO USE IT. A CUP OF YEARS FOR A LARGER PROJECT.

WHERE WE'LL HAVE PROJECT MANAGER THAT WE USE ON A VERY CONSISTENT BASIS.

>> A LOT OF THESE VENDORS AND I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF OPENGOV DID NOT SUPPORT IT.

A LOT DO ALLOW LIMITED ACCESS TO SUB CONTRACTORS TO BE ABLE TO INPUT SPECIFIC DATA INTO THE

SYSTEM TO STREAMLINE THE WORK FLOW PROCESS. >> AND THERE IS A CAPABILITY OF THEM TO PUT IN IT, LIKE I SAID, PROJECT UPDATES THINGS OF THAT NATURE INTO THE SYSTEM, WHICH

WE GIVE THEM ACCESS TO. >> ARE YOU ON MUNIS RIGHT NOW? >> WE'RE USING MINIS E--MUNIS

FOR FINANCIAL PROJECT. >> WE DO HAVE A CAPITAL, WHAT IS IT CAPITAL, MUNIS HAS A MODULE. IT'S CONTINUE DESIGNED AT ALL FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT, IT'S TO GIVE YOU AN INSIDE BUT NOT BY ANY MEANS A PROJECT MANAGEMENT TOOLS.

>> SURE. >> YEAH. THESE TYPES OF PRODUCTS IN

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WAY. >> IN LOOKING ON A NUMBER OF VENDORS THAT CAME IN.

THERE WERE A FEW OF THEM THAT WERE VERY VERY INTUITIVE, MINOR SURF MINOR, NOT TOUCHING ON WORK FLOW, BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO CREATE MORE WORK. WITH OPEN GOV AND THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS STRONG, I FORGET THE NAME OF IT. BUT OPEN GOV HAS A VERY

INTUITIVE FACE. >> THIS IS DATA THAT WE HAVE ALREADY.

RIGHT NOW, IT'S GOING INTO A EXCEL SPREADSHEET AND IT'S UNSESFUL.

AND IT'S NOT LINKED SO YOU CANNOT SEE THE IMPACT. SO IT'S NOT AFFECTIVE AS FOR US

TO HAVE A REALTIME INFORMATION. >> THIS WOULD PRODUCE MORE OF A MASTER SCHEDULE?

>> IT'S THE CURRENT EXCEL DATA A? >> IT IS ABSOLUTELY, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE HE WAS SAYING, EVERYTHING IS DOABLE. SO THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY DOABLE, THE FOCUS IS GOING TO BE THE INTEGRATION WITHIN MUNIS. SO REALTIME, YOU CAN PICKUP INFORMATION FROM MAOUN PISS LET'S SAY ANY GIVEN MILESTONE. HOW FAST YOUR VEND IS GOING.

ARE YOU ONLY 35 PERCENT THROUGH A MILESTONE. SO IT GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO PULL THAT INFORMATION. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IF WE THAT'S PART OF THE REASON THAT THE ENTIRE IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS IS NOT NECESSARILY QUICK.

>> JUST, ON THE STATUE FOR YOU TO COUNCIL TO SAID, WE'LL ABLE TO SEE THAT.

THE BIG MASTER--? >> REFER TO WHICH? >> THE DASHBOARD'S, YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THAT TOWARDS THAT ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU KEY INFORMATION THAT SAY COUNCIL WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, VERSUS, YOU KNOW, CITY MANAGER HAVE SIMILAR REQUIREMENTS AS COUNCIL. WHERE AS OTHER DASH BOARDS, ARE GOING TO BE SPECIFIC TO PROJECT MANAGERS AND PROGRESS OF THE PROJECTS. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS,

YES. >> SO YOU CAN GO ON A CAP AND SAY, OH THERE IS A PROJECT

HERE, CLICK ON IT AND WASH YOURSELF. >> AND THAT'S WHAT WE USE FOR

GIS. >> YES, AND YOU CAN IT. >> SO SI JUST STREAMLINE

EVERYTHING AND THERE IS NOT INTEGRATION. >> THERE IS INTEGRATION AL IN

MUNIS. >> RIGHT, RIGHT, IT UPDATES EVERY MEET AND THEN THE NEXT DAY IT'S REFRESHED. WOULD THIS STILL REQUIRE SOME MANUAL DATA OR INPUT ON ANY OF

THAT? >> I DON'T KNOW. >> THAT'S GOING TO BE DISCOVERED, BE PART OF THE INITIAL PHASE OF THE PROJECT, WE'LL TALK MORE IN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION WILL GO. SOME PIECES MAY BE REALTIME PULLED THROUGH WHAT IS CALLED THROUGH APPLICATION PROGRAM INTERFACES SO IT'S PULLED AS NEEDED OTHERS MAY BE A NIGHTLY BATCH. SO IT MAY BE A COMBINATION OF BET. WE'RE GOING TO PUSH AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO HAVE MOST OF THE REQUIREMENTS MET THROUGH APPLICATION PROGRAM AND INTERFACES AND NOT NIGHTLY

BATCHES BECAUSE THAT GETS A LITTLE BIT. >> WELL WITH THE LICENSE, RESTRICTED ON THIS OR IS IT ENTERPRISE THAT GIVES YOU ENOUGH LICENSES?

>> THE FUNDING IS BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE PROJECTS, NOT THE NUMBER OF USERS.

THE USERS ARE UNLIMITED. IF WE HAVE TO DO A CAPITOL CAMPAIGN, WE HAVE TO USE IT UP

BECAUSE WE'RE USING IT FOR MORE PROJECTS. >> I THINK THE LICENSE IS BASED

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LICENSING. >> THAT'S WHY YOU CAN GIVE A LICENSE TO FOR EXAMPLE, AN

OUTSIDE VENDOR TO HAVE ACCESS TO. >> FINANCIAL.

SO THE LICENSING IS BASED ON THREE-YEAR. EVERYBODY CAN READ THIS.

AND THEN, THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, DEVELOPMENT IMPLEMENTATION AND INTEGRATION IS 113,750 TOTE ALLEGE 179,907.59. .

AFTER THE FIRST YEAR, THE IMPLEMENTATION EFFORT IS COMPLETED AND YOUR AS LICENSING COSTS ARE AS FOLLOWS. AND THEN IN THE THIRD YEAR, 6902, ADDING UP TO, HMM, YEAH.

>> YOUR IS DIFFERENT. >> YAF, THE ACTUAL TOTAL IS 72977.

THE THIRD YEAR IS 72,977 I'LL HAVE TO REDO THE MATH. >> YES.

>> THE THIRD YEAR LICENSING GOES UP? >> YES.

>> IT GOES UP EVERY YEAR. >> IT DOES GO UP EVERY YEAR. >> SO 5 PERCENT INCREASE?

>> PRETTY STANDARD. >> YES. IS KNOW THAT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY BUT THAT'S NOT BAD AT ALL AS SOMETHING THAT WORKS IN. ESPECIALLY WITH THE GAINS THAT THIS WILL GIVE US. MY QUESTION CHRISTOF FOR YOU, I HEARD IN THE PAST HOW TERRIBLE MISTAKE THE CIP PROGRAM, THE STATUS IS IN. HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO BEING INPUT READY? TO PUT IT INTO OPENGOV AND UTILIZE IT?

>> IT'S ALL THE THINGS THAT WE JUST MENTIONED. THE FACT THAT EVERYTHING IS IN SPREAD SHEETS THAT ARE NOT CONNECTING IN ANY WAY. THEN YOU MAKE AN ERROR AND THINGS DON'T ADD UP. SO VERY FRUSTRATING. AND NOT ONLY FRUSTRATING FOR US BUT FOR THE USERS AS WELL. WELL WE WANT TO LOOK AT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, WELL I NEED TO REDO ALL OF ANY SPREAD SHEETS AND IT'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS RESOURCE STOCK.

HAS RUINED THE PROBLEM FOR US. EVERY TIME, A DIRECTOR WANTS TO DO IT A DIFFERENT WAY, THEN WE DO THE SPREAD SHEETS. THIS ELIMINATES THAT, IT STANDARDIZED IT.

AND ONCE WE GET THE INFORMATION IN THERE, IT'S THERE. AND THE OTHER PIECE BOWS OF THAT SYSTEM, FINANCE IS THE SOCIAL TRUTH RATHER THAN OUR PROJECT MANAGERS.

SO THAT MEANS, THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE ARE, THEY AND THAT'S NOT AN AFFECTIVE WAY TO MANAGE A PROJECT. HOW CAN WE MAKE IT ACCOUNTABLE WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE THE TOOLS.

THIS IS A CRITICAL RECOMMENDATION, IT DOES LOOK A LITTLE PRICY, GIVEN THE MILLIONS, THE KEY PIECE FOR ME IS THE IMPLEMENTATION. YOU GUYS AND EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE TRANSPARENCY OF WHERE WE'RE SPENDING AND MAKING PROGRESS.

THIS WILL GIVE US THAT. AND LIKE I SAID, ONCE WE HAVE THE PROJECT UP THERE, IT STAYS UP-TO-DATE BECAUSE OF THE INTEGRATION WITH NEWS. AND WE CAN SEND UP AN INVOICE TO BE PAID, IT UPDATES THE SYSTEM. IT CANNOT.

SO THERE IS NOT ANY PIECES THAT IS MISSED OFF THE PROJECT. >> I WOULD THINK THAT THAT THAT YEARLY COSTS IS, THAT IT'S VERY REASONABLE CONSIDERING, CONSIDERING HOW MANY TIMES YOU HAVE TO, WE DO THINGS IN A SPREADSHEET. I CONGRATULATE YOU GUYS FOR DOING THIS, I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE BEEN NEEDING.

>> YEAH, IT'S ARRANGING GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND GETTING IN TT REQUIREMENT AND

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PRIORITIZING REQUIREMENT, YES. >> SO YOU'VE GOT, THE QUOTE THAT THEY'VE GIVEN US IS 505 HOURS OF INTEGRATION AT 2.16 AN HOUR WHICH IS REASONABLE, 525 HOURS, IS THAT, HOW ARE WE FEELING ABOUT THAT? ARE WE FEELING LIKE THEY'RE GIVING US A GOOD SCALE? FROM THE DATA, WE'RE TRYING TO IMPORT? THE CONDITION OF OUR SOFTWARE

INFRASTRUCTURE AS IT STANDS? >> GOOD QUESTION. THEY'RE BASING THAT ON WHAT A STANDARD, IMPLEMENTATION FOR A CITY OUR SIZE BASED ON THE TYPE OF PROJECTS AND THE AMOUNT OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE, OKAY. I HAVE TO RELY ON THAT. THAT'S JUST A BOTTOM LINE.

I DON'T DO THESE IMPLEMENTATIONS SPECIFICALLY WITHIN MULTIPLE MUNICIPALITIES.

>> YEAH. >> I DON'T REALLY, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT EVERY DOT IN THE CONTRACT, BUT WOULD A CHANGE REQUEST BE ADDITIONAL HOURS AT THAT HOURLY RATE?

>> YES. >> AND THE LAST QUESTION, LET'S SAY THIS WAS APPROVED, IT'S NOT

ON TOMORROW'S COUNCIL MEETING? >> IT IS. >> LET'S SAY THIS IS APPROVED AT TOMORROW'S COUNCIL MEETING. DID THEY GIVE A TIME LINE TO WHEN DASH BOARDS MAY BE

AVAILABLE TO PUBLIC? >> YES. >> THAT'S OKAY.

>> SORRY. >> I LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS AS WE GO.

SO THE TIMELINE, HERE'S WHAT THE IMPLEMENTATION AND INTEGRATION LOOKS LIKE FROM A STAND LINE STAND POINT AND METHODOLOGY. I'M NOT GOING TO GET THE DEEP PARTS, BUT THEY BASICALLY GO THROUGH THE SIX PHASES, THE FIRST PHASE IS OPEN GOV AND PERFORMS A INITIAL SYSTEMS SET UP. SO THEY'RE GETTING THIS, WHAT IS IN ESSENCE, SOFTWARE AS A SERVICE CLOUD BASE APPLICATION SET UP, GET THE FRAMEWORK SET UP. SECOND PHASE IS THEY, SIT WITH US AND WORK WITH THE CITY TO CONFIRM THE REQUIREMENTS AND REVIEW THE INITIAL CONFIGURATIONS, LOOK HOW OUR WORK FLOW GOES, IT WORKS ET CETERA AND HOW TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

PHASE 3, COMPLETE SYSTEM CONFIGURATION IS OUTLINED AND THE STATEMENT OF WORK, PHASE 4 PROVIDES TRAINING TO SYSTEM ADMINISTRATORS AND TRAINING AND PHASE 5 IS LAUNCHED.

AVERAGE I MPLEMENTATION IS 6 MONTHS. 6 MONTHS WOULD BE AN AVERAGE AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON THE DASH BOARDS THAT IS GOING TO BE AROUND THE 5TH OR 6TH OR

7TH MONTH. >> HOW MANY DO YOU THINK WE HAVE TO TRAIN THEM?

>> WE'LL HAVE AT LEAST SEVEN PEOPLE UP FRONT. >> SEVEN.

AND THEN, THEY'LL BECOME THE TRAINERS? >> YEAH.

IT'S THE TRAINING THAT IS ALWAYS HARD. THAT'S HOURS THAT WE'LL BE

LOOKING AT AND HOW TO MAKE IT MOST AFFECTIVE USE OF THAT TIME. >> DOES OPEN GOV, OR VERTSOFT

OR WHOEVER OUR PARTNER IS HERE, DO THEY DO THE TRAINING? >> YES.

>> CAN I GO TO SOMETHING YOU SAID EARLIER AND I THINK THIS IS LONG OVERDUE.

THIS IS, THIS IS, BASIC EXACTLY SO I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE THIS. WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER AND IT'S REALLY BEEN A PROBLEM THIS FIXES IT HOPEFULLY, ARE THEY GOING TO BE THE EXACT SAME DASH BOARDS OR ARE THEY GOING TO BE SORT OF CONDENSES OR, YOU KNOW, MADE A LITTLE EASIER?

>> A SIM RE. >> FOR THE CITIZENS TO REALLY LOOK AT IT AND SAY, WHERE ARE WE WITH THE ANIMAL SHELTER? AND SEE REAL NUMBERS THAT THEY CAN UNDERSTAND AND NOT BE SO

OBTUSE THAT THEY CANNOT GRAB WHAT IS GOING THERE? >> THE SUMMARY DATA, STILL CRITICAL DATA AND I BELIEVE CUSTOMIZATION, BUT WE'LL TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT.

>> YEAH. >> THE ONES WE'VE SEEN, WHERE YOU ARE FINANCIALLY AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY, DIG A LITTLE DEEPER INTO IT TO GET MORE INFORMATION ON THE SPECIFIC ITEMS.

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>> AND I THINK THE CITIZENS WOULD BE REALLY SUPPORTIVE ABOUT THAT AND IT'S SOMETHING

THAT I HEARD OVER THE YEARS. >> IT WILL BE ROLE BASE. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET INTO

DETAILS. >> I GET IT, BUT AT LEAST SO WE CAN SEE SOMETHING THAT IS

MEANINGFUL, I GUESS THAT'S IT. >> THINGS TO THAT NATURE. >> SO WILL THIS BECOME THE

SYSTEM OF RECORD? AS OPPOSED TO MUNIS? >> MUNIS WILL ALWAYS BE THE

FINANCIAL RECORD. >> SO IF THEY DISAGREE, THEN MUNIS IS IS THE TRUE NORTH STAR BUT IT GIVES CLARITY AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT OVERVIEW AND ALL THAT?

>> YES. >> THAT'S WHY INTEGRATION IS SO CRITICAL.

>> THAT MAKES SENSE. >> THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO PUT T SOURCE OF TRUTH.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. SORRY. I HAVE NOT DONE THIS.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, OF OPEN GOV, APPLICATION AND ADDED TO THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR

COUNCIL TOMORROW EVENING. >> TWO MORE QUESTIONS. HOW DETAILED DO WE, THAT'S THE WRONG WORD. HOW, SO WE TALK ABOUT CAPITAL PROJECTS AND WE TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE THE ANIMAL SHELTER. HOW FAR DOWN DO WE GET BEFORE THINGS ARE NOT ON THIS LIST? LIKE ALLEY REPLACEMENT PROJECTS. I WOULD THINK ALLEY WOULD BE IN THERE.

LET'S SAY WE'RE RESURFACING THE STREET. THOSE ARE TOO SMALL WHERE IS IS

THE LINE BETWEEN WHAT IS TOO SMALL AND RIGHT SIZE? >> THINGS THAT ARE EXCLUSIVELY, THE DOMAIN OF OUR MAINTENANCE SYSTEM WOULD NOT LET IT GO. UNLESS WE WANTED TO CREATE A TURN INTO AN BROADER PROJECT. BUT AS THEY GO AND DO WORK ORDERS ON AS THEY SAY, FIXING

THE SIDEWALK OR THOSE THINGS WOULD NOT BE ON THE PROJECT. >> HOW ABOUT FOR EXAMPLE, A COUPLE OF YEARS WE DID A RESTRIPING PROJECT WHERE WE HAD A MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT OF

STRIPPING. >> I THINK THAT THERE IS SOME DECISIONS THAT WE CAN MAKE.

AGAIN, IF SOMEBODY ENTERS THE DATA, IT WILL BE AVAILABLE. >> GREAT.

>> I MAY ASK IT A LITTLE DIFFERENT. SO ALL CIP PROJECTS OBVIOUSLY,

THAT'S THE TARGET OF GUESTS RIGHT? >> LET ME BE CLEAR.

SO RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A CIP PROJECT WHICH IS STREET MAINTENANCE, THAT'S A BIG PART

OF MINE. >> I GOT YOU. >> WE GOT TO GET OUT THERE AND

DO SMALL REPAIRS. >> SO THAT ONE IS NOT GOING TO END UP IN A MASSIVE PLACE.

>> OKAY. >> SECOND QUESTION, THAT I HAD WAS WITH, I ASSUME THIS SOFTWARE DOES NOT DO THIS. I KNOW IT'S GETTING LATE BUT IN PARTICULAR ZONING CASES THEY COME FROM ACROSS AND MAKING IT VISIBLE. THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TAX DOLLAR DOLLARS AND HOW THOSE ARE LEVERAGED.

IS THERE SOFTWARE THAT WOULD TACKLE THAT AS WELL? >> YOU CAN BUILD ANYTHING.

BUT SOMEBODY HAS TO PUT IN THE DATA. SO IF YOU WANT GIVE US A, ONE, TWO, YOU KNOW, TEXT TO ADD TO OUR GIS TEAM WE CAN MAKE THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE.

>> GREAT. I THINK THAT'S DOWN THE ROAD THING, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO

THE COMMUNITY. >> JUST SO THEY SEE US ON A CASE, FOR EXAMPLE THE PROJECT ON 66TH THAT WAS APPROVED TWO YEARS AGO. THE OUT BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN DEMOLISHED AND NOW THERE IS--WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO GET BUILT.

BUT IT TOOK A SOCIAL POST TO SAY, INFORMATION BEING READILY AVAILABLE ALL THE TIME AND THAT BECOMES HELPFUL WITH THE BIGGER PROJECTS. WE DON'T WANT EVERY PERMIT THAT

COMES ACROSS THE DOCKET. >> OF COURSE WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT TRACKS ALL THAT.

>> WHAT IS IT CALLED? >> MYGO. THANK YOU.

MYGO. AND THAT'S DATA, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE PERSONNEL TO KEEP

TRACK AND KEEP IT UP-TO-DATE. : >> YEAH.

AND THE ONLY THING THAT WE CAN REPORT ON THAT WOULD BE APPLICATION, ACTUAL APPROVALS

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POSSIBLE BY THE APPLICANT. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. COUNCIL ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DAVE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. APPRECIATE YOU.

ONE MORE QUESTION, SORRY. >> ALMOST. [LAUGHTER]

>> SO OFTEN TIMES WHEN WE LOOK AT THINGS THIS, WE TALK ABOUT THE 500 HOURS OF VENDOR TIME, THAT IS NOT REALLY CALCULATE THE AMOUNT OF STAFF REQUIRED FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS.

DO WE HAVE AN INDICATOR OF HOW MANY -- ~>> DESELL VAIT --DECELERATE,

NO BIG DEAL. >> WOW. SO A BETTER WAY TO ASK, ARE

THERE GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL HIRES OR SOME SORT TEMP? >> NO, THE THING HERE IS

PRIORITIZATION. WE SAW THIS AS A PRIOR ONE. >> GOT IT.

>> OTHER PIECE THAT'S IN ORDER TO GIVE HIM AND HIS TEAM TO FOCUS ON THIS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT. CERTAINLY WITH MORE PEOPLE YOU CAN DO MORE BUT I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE A SUSTAINABLE NEED FOR US AT THIS POINT IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> SO THE ITT WOULD BE DRIVING THIS PROJECT. >> ITT WILL BE DRIVING THIS

PROJ HE CAN. >> WORKING THE WITH PROFESSIONAL SERVICE.

>> ONE THING THAT I WILL SAY TECHNOLOGY IS CONSTANTLY EVOLVING AND ONCE IT EVOLVES YOU HAVE THESE SYSTEMS THAT NEED TO TALK TO EACH OTHER AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE INTELLIGENCE.

THERE IS ULTIMATELY, GOING TO BE A NEED FOR INTEGRATER AND AUTO MATER BUT THIS IS NOT THE

TIME. >> YOU SET THAT TUP. TO GET AN OPPORTUNITY.

>> IT'S IMPORTANT. >> THANK YOU. >> TOMORROW SIX MONTHS THAT

DOES NOT COUNT TOMORROW. PURCHASING, I CAN GET IN THERE. >> YEAH.

>> SO A MONTH OR TWO AND SIX MONTHS FROM THERE. >> WHENEVER THE AGREEMENT IS

EXECUTED. >> THE REASON I SAID IT, WE'RE UP AND RUNNING.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> USER-FRIENDLY. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> I WOULD SAY OPEN GOV IS EXTREMELY READY TO MOVE FORWARD, OF COURSE.

SO SO IT'S THE FASTEST WAY TO PROCESS P O.S, THAT DOES NEED TO BE ADDED TO THE TIME BUT

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. >> WELL DON'T GET MAD AT ME, I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT I'LL BE ASKING THIS TO GO THROUGH THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, DAVE.

APPRECIATE IT, WE WILL NOT STOP YOU AGAIN. ITEM 3C, RECEIVE A PRESENTATION

ON MUNICIPAL COMPLEX AND THE NEXT STEPS. >> CAN WE PAUSE THIS AND GO ON

TO THE NEXT ONE. >> IF THAT'S OKAY. >> SHE IS GOING TO RUN TO HER OFFICE AND GRAB. SO WE'LL MOVE, JUST PAUSE THIS ITEM AND MOVE TO ITEM 3-D.

[3.D. Receive a presentation regarding the Community Survey Proposal.]

AND CRISTOF NEEDS THE CLICKER. >> SO THIS IS THE PROPOSAL I WANT TO SPEAK ON.

--WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH AN EMPLOYEE SURVEY. AND I WANT TODAY COME AND

PROPOSE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. >> WHAT YOU JUST SAID WAS REALLY IMPORTANT, SAY THAT

AGAIN. >> WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH AN EMPLOYEE SURVEY WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO THE TEAM ON WEDNESDAY AND QUICK THAT OFF ON WITHIN THE NEXT, ABOUT 90 DAYS.

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BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF AREAS WHERE WE GET THAT INFORMATION. OR ELSE WE'LL GET GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION AND I'LL SHOW YOU EXAMPLES OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AS AN OUTPUT.

WHEN THEY LISTED THEIR QUALITY, THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT YOU'LL SEE WHEN IT COMES OUT IN A REPORT. YOU KNOW, JUST, WHAT IS YOUR SATISFACTION WITH THE CITY? ARE YOU VERY SATISFIED OR JUST SATISFIED? KIND OF WRITE THOSE AND THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE STANDARDIZED THROUGHOUT THEIR CUSTOMER BASE SO THEY CAN GET THIS INFORMATION. NOT ONLY A BENCHMARK NATIONALLY BUT SPECIFICALLY IN TEXAS.

THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE SO YOU CAN SEE IN THE CITY, THEY WERE AT 90 PERCENT, TEXAS AVERAGE OF 50 PERCENT AND THE OTHER NUMBER IS 55 PERCENT SO THEY'RE OUT PERFORMING THE BENCH MARKS. AND THIS IS THE KIND OF DATA YOU'LL GET FROM THIS REPORT FAIRLY WELL. ALSO TALK ABOUT PRIORITIES.

SO, WHAT ARE, MOST IMPORTANT TO YOU AS A COMMUNITY. AND ALLOWS YOU TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, WHAT PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE ARE THINKING, SHOULD BE YOUR FOCUS FOR INVESTMENT AND GROWTH FOR YOUR COMMUNITY. AND AS YOU SEE, IT BREAKS IT DOWN NOT ONLY FIRST OR SECOND OR THIRD CHOICE AND IT CREATES A PRETTY COMPLEX MATRIX, INVESTMENT VERSUS COSTS AND HOW YOUR CUSTOMERS FEEL ABOUT DIFFERENT AREAS OF INVESTMNT. THE NICE THING I LIKE ABOUT THIS AS WELL, IT GIVES YOU GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION. SO THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT, MAYBE ONE PART OF YOUR COMMUNITY FEELS DIFFERENTLY ABOUT SOMETHING.

MAYBE THEY FEEL LIKE THEIR STREETS ARE A BIG PRIORITY. SO NOT ONLY CAN YOU MAKE GLOBAL, YOU CAN ALSO TALK ABOUT FOCUS AREAS BASED ON THE INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE SURVEY. AND THIS ALLOWS TO CROSS TABS. THOSE SIX OUT THERE? SO YOU CROSS TABS ALLOWS YOU TO BASICALLY SAY, OKAY, I HAVE A DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION OR LOCATION INFORMATION AND I WANT TO KNOW I WANT TO CROSS THAT INFORMATION AGAINST A SPECIFIC ANSWER. HOW MANY PEOPLE BETWEEN 44 AND 65 FELT LIKE THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC FLOW AND THEY GET THAT INFORMATION? SO YOU CAN TEST WHERE ARE YOUR GAIN POINTS BASED ON OTHER DATA. SO OF THE PEOPLE WHO ANSWERED, THEIR VERY UNSATISFIED, WHAT WERE THEY AGE GROUPS? THOSE WERE 22 AND YOUNGER, SO YOU KNOW WHO IS YOUR MOST AREA OF CONCERN IN THIS COMMUNITY. 300 VERSUS 400. SO, YOU CAN EITHER ABOUT 300 SURVEYS OR 400 SURVEYS. MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOU GO WITH 400 AND IT REDUCES YOUR MARGIN OF ERROR. MAKE SURE THAT YOUR INFORMATION DOESN'T GET DEGRADED AS YOU MOVE INTO A MORE FOCUSED AREA IN THE COMMUNITY. SO GIVEN OUR SIZE, I WOULD RECOMMEND THE 400 SURVEYS, IT WILL GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION. AND THIS WHOLE THING IS SCIENTIFICALLY, THEY WILL SHOW YOU, THIS IS THE INFORMATION, THAT THEY'VE TOUCHED EQUALLY AND DEMOGRAPHICALLY ACROSS THE COMMUNITY. SO WE'RE NOT OVER SAMPLING ONE

OVER THE OTHER. >> DOES THIS GIVE US A PERCENTAGE ACROSS HOW MANY

PARTICIPATE IN THE SURVEY? >> WELL IT'S 400 INDIVIDUALS SURVEYED.

>> OKAY. >> SO ONLY FOUR HUNDRED. >> SO FROM STATISTICAL, THAT'S ALL YOU NEED. 400 RESPONDENTS AND THEY'LL DO A MALE FIRST AND THEN FOLLOW-UP WITH A PHONE CALL AND THEN EMAIL, THEY WILL DRIVE PEOPLE TO A WEBSITE AND THEY WILL WORK

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UNTIL THEY GET 400 RESPONSES. >> BUT THEY'RE DOING IT IN A SCIENTIFIC WAY SO IT'S AN EVEN SPREAD IT'S A FAIR POPULATION VERSUS ONE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS 400 RESPONSES.

>> IT GIVES YOU A REAL SENSE OF WHAT IT IS. >> CORRECT.

STATISTICAL ANALYSIS SHOWS US. WE'VE GOT FAR MORE THAN RESIDENTS THAT WE'LL HAVE A

VERY SMALL MARGIN OF ERROR. >> AND I GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF GEOGRAPHY, BUT I ASSUME THAT

THEY WOULD DO AGE AND RACE AND ALL OF THOSE DEMOGRAPHIC. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THEY'LL BREAK IT DOWN AND COMPARE THAT TO CENSUS DATA. HERE'S THE POPULATION WE PULLED AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT IS AS CLOSE TO THE MATCH. SO IF YOU'RE CENSUS SAYS THAT YOU, 33 PERCENT ARE, OF SOME RACE, THEY WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEIR SURVEY GETS CLOSE TO THAT

AS THEY CAN. >> SO THE 500 GIFT CARDS IS FOR ONE LUCKY PERSON.

>> IS WOULD ASSUME THAT AS WELL. WHETHER THAT'S ONE PERSON IN ROWLETT OR NATION.

>> THAT'S A LITTLE EXPENSE PIF, I THOUGHT 500 FOR ALL 400 PEOPLE.

THAT'S A LOT. >> THAT'S 200 GRAND. I'LL VOLUNTEER.

>> [LAUGHTER] SO IF COUNCIL WANTS TO GO, THIS IS THE TIME WE LOOK AT THAT AND THIS IS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS.

THAT WE'RE PROBING THOSE AREAS IN A WAY THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE.

AND THEN THEY GO OUT AND GET TWO TO THREE MONTHS TO GET THE DATA, AND THEN GET IT BACK TO US. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A 3-4 MONTH PERIOD.

MAYOR AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT AND WE CAN PULL THE TRIGGER PRETTY QUICKLY IT'S BEEN MY EXECUTION AUTHORITY. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT DELAYING THAT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME BEFORE THE ELECTION PROCESS TO OCCUR. MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE COMPLETE THIS PROCESS AND FROM THE COUNCIL HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THIS INFORMATION AS PART OF THAT PROCESS.

>> SO INITIATE THE SURVEY. THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHAT KIND OF THINGS YOU CAN SEE FROM THAT AND IF THERE IS A SPECIFIC QUESTION. WE WANT THE PERCENTAGES THAT'S ALL BROKEN DOWN. YOU CAN SEE THE WHOLE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT RESPOND.

ET CETERA. YOU GET VERY STRONG DATA FROM THIS COMPANY.

SO, WE WOULD LIKE, AND WE INITIAL IT AND COME BACK TO YOU GUYS AND WORKSHOP AGAIN THE KEY LOCAL QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND THEN GET IT BACK TO YOU BEFORE WE KICKOFF THE

PLANNING PROCESS. >> IS THERE, I MEAN, UNDERSTANDING THAT THE SURVEY CAN'T BE A THOUSAND QUESTIONS LONG. IS THERE A SURVEY THAT WE ASK?

>> YES, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS BUT THERE IS A LIMITATION.

>> SO. >> YOU FOCUS ON PRIORITIZATION PIECE.

ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO FOCUS ON AND IT'S NOT, IT'S A FAIR NUMBER.

>> THEY ESTIMATE ABOUT 5 MINUTES OR SO. >> NO IT'S MORE THAN THAT.

>> IT'S ABOUT 5 PAGES? >> FIVE OR SIX PAGES LONG. >> IT TAKES ABOUT 35.

>> IT'S PRETTY IN DEPTH. >> YEAH. >> IT'S PRETTY DEPTH.

>> SO IF WE CAN GET AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW THAT.

I THINK WORKING WITH THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION WOULD BE HELPFUL TO GET SOME CATALYST ABOUT WHAT THE LOCAL ISSUES MAY BE RATHER THAN THE 7 MINDS AROUND THIS TABLE, PARTICULARLY THE PARCHED BOARD MAY BE HELPFUL. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY MEET AGAIN. BUT IF NOT, THEY CAN BE PULLED HAVE I--VIA EMAIL. TO GET US TO GET US WHAT ISSUES NEED TO BE ASKED LOCAL ISSUES, SPECIFICALLY. I THINK PARKS, MAY BE ANIMAL SHELTER MAY BE VALUABLE, THE GOLF COURSE. BUT IF THERE IS A SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT THE LOCAL, LOCAL

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>> RIGHT. >> BUT WE CAN IF IT MAKES SENSE TO DO SO, IT MAY BE HELPFUL.

>> THE THING IS, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO GET TOO MUCH, MAKE IT IN THERE, I SAY LET'S BUILD IT AND THEN TAKE IT TO THEM. I SAY, DOES THIS ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?

ARE WE MISSING SOMETHING? >> THAT MAY BE GOOD. >> YEAH.

>> YEAH. >> EXCELLENT SUGGESTION. AND I THINK THE NICE THING ABOUT THESE COMPANIES IS THEY'LL GIVE US SAMPLES, SO WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE ASKING. WE'LL SEE WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE USING THIS AREA.

. ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT POPPED UP WAS I DID THIS ON WAS, OUTDOOR NEIGHBORHOOD POOLS. YOU KNOW, COUNCIL HAD NOT REALLY PRIORITIZED POOLS.

AND IT KEPT ON POPPING UP. SO THE COUNCIL RESPONDED TO THAT AND IS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO IN THE COMMUNITY AND IT WAS WELL RECEIVE. IT CAN BE INFORMATION THAT IS--.

>> SO COUNCIL ANY CONCERN WITH CRISTOF MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS HE AS THE ADMINISTRATIVE

AUTHORITY TO DO THIS. >> NO, NOT AT ALL. >> OKAY.

>> WE'LL TAKE ABOUT A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS HERE AND WE'LL

>> WE WILL RECONVENE IT IS 7:49 WE'VE CONCLUDED ITEM 3-D, WE'RE BACK ON 3C WHICH I'LL READ TO

[3.C. Receive a presentation regarding the Municipal Complex and the next steps.]

STEPS. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, LARGER IMAGES THAN IN THE PRESENTATION AND I'LL REVIEW THEM IN A FEW SLIDES. WITH THAT, I'LL GET STARTED.

WE'RE PRESENT TO YOU REGARDING THE NEXT STEPS BASED ON YOUR DIRECTION.

MOST SPECIFICALLY, YOU DIRECTED STAFF. SO I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BACKGROUND IN, AND AS IT RELATES TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY IN 2023, WE HAVE THREE DROPS, ONE FOR PUBLIC FACILITY AND ONE FOR ANIMAL SHELTER.

AGAIN THESE NUMBERS, DEPENDING ON FUTURE CONSTRUCTION, THESE NUMBERS ARE NOT SET IN STONE BUT IT WAS JUST TO REVIEW A SNAP SHOT ON WHAT OCCURED IN 2023.

IN 2021, THERE WAS A PROPOSITION, C, PROPOSITION C, IT WAS A APPROVED FOR A PUBLIC SAFETY AND ANIMAL FACILITY, AT PECAN GROVE, DRIVE THAT'S A VERY SKI SKI SCHEMATIC.

HOWEVER, IN 2023, GRIFFIN PARK WAS CONSIDERED AS A LOCATION, IT WOULD HOUSE THE CITY HALL AND CITY DEPARTMENTS AND ANIMAL SHELTER AND OF COURSE THE REMAINING CONTINUED TO SERVE AS A FACILITY. AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS MAIN STREET, THE INTEGRATED CAR FACILITIES AS PER THIS PROPOSED SITE PLAN, THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND THE ANIMAL SERVICES BUILDING AND PUBLIC SAFETY AND SUPPORT BUILDING RIGHT HERE FOR THE ENCLOSED AREA.

SO THIS WAS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS DRAWN UP AND BASED ON THAT, I WANT TO TALK MORE DISCUSS, DO A DEEPER DIVE INTO THE FOOTPRINT OF EACH FUNCTION THAT I JUST DISCUSSED WITH YOU.

THE CITY HALL, THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING AND OF COURSE, THE ANIMAL SHELTER.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE CITY HALL BUILDING, AND I'M GOING TO GO JUST ONE FOR THE AUDIENCE TO POINT OUT THE NEXT SLIDE ADDRESSES THIS AREA RIGHT HERE. SO, MULTI STORY BUILDING, TWO LEVELS THAT CONTAINS, 37,000 SQUARE FEET OF OUR AREA, CONSIST OF OUR COUNCIL

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SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE A CITY COUNCIL, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ENGINEERING, I.T., THE LOBBY, REVENUE AND SHARED RESOURCES THAT YOU CAN PULL TOGETHER AND UTILIZE THOSE FUNCTIONS. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE OTHER LEVEL RIGHT HERE WHICH IS, THE

OTHER FUNCTIONS THAT I JUST DISCUSSED WITH YOU. >> I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS IS STILL ON SKI MAT SCHEMATIC DESIGN. THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS THAT WE HAD ABOUT THIS DESIGN. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNEW WHERE WE STOPPED AND

WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE FROM A MASSIVE PERSPECTIVE. >> AND THAT'S A FANTASTIC, NOT REALLY IDENTIFIED WHAT THAT MEANS. WE TALKED ABOUT FACILITY, THAT'S NOT BEEN FLUSHED OUT EITHER. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF ELEMENTS THAT NEEDED TO BE DEFINED. TALKING ABOUT ANIMAL SERVICES, APPROXIMATELY 9,000 SQUARE FEET IN AREA WITH SOME ENCLOSED AREA IN BACK AS WELL. AND INDOOR AND OUTDOOR KENNEL FACILITIES TO SECURE SAFETY SECURE ANIMALS AND TAKE ANIMALS INTO THE SHELTER ITSELF.

THAT'S ON SECOND PAGE, THIRD PAGE OF THAT. AGAIN, VERY CONCEPTUAL IN NATURE. THESE PLANS MERELY ADDRESS THE WORK FLOW ON THE DEPARTMENTS,

NOT FULLY CATCHING OUT. >> THIS ONE WILL MOVE FORWARD TO DD, SO WE'RE THROUGH THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN. THE ESTIMATED COST WAS NINE MILLION, OUR ISSUE WAS 8.4, AND THAT WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION TO BUILD SOME SIN --SYNERGY.

SO IT WILL BE A DIFFERENT COST TO KEEP THIS SIZE OF FACILITY. >> THANK YOU, FOR THAT

CLARIFICATION. >> I THINK YOU SAID IT, BUT THESE ARE, THIS IS AND SO THIS IS THE SKI SKI SCHEMATIC UP TO THE POINT WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.

>> THIS IS WHERE WE STOPPED. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> THESE ARE, THESE ARE RESENT

IN PLAY DOCUMENTS THAT ARE WITHIN 60 DAYS OLD. >> SO WHERE WE WERE, THE PROCESS IS, THAT MOVE THROUGH THE THREE PHASES OF DESIGN, DESIGN DEVELOPMENT AND THEN

CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS. >> RIGHT. >> WE'RE IN SKI MAT SKSH SKI --SCHEMATIC ON MOST, ON CITY HALL. WE HAD RELEASED ON THE CIVIL AND WE WERE WORKING ON RELEASING THE DD ON ANIMAL SHELTER AND VERY CLOSE TO PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, NEITHER THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING OR CITY HALL HAVE BEEN RELEASED TO

DD. >> THESE ARE ALL PREDICATED ON ALL BEING AT HERBERT PARK.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> SO THIS PROGRESSION OF SLIDES IDENTIFY YES, WE HAVE

PROPOSITION 2021 AND THEN 2023. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE. >> MAKE SURE THAT --

~>> TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, IN THIS DEPARTMENT, ASSET SUPPORT BUILDING AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE I CAN GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN AND SHOW YOU WHERE THAT IS.

AND THIS IDENTIFIES AND IT'S ALSO COLORFUL. AND IDENTIFIES THE DISPATCH LOCATION, THE INVESTIGATIONS LOCATION, THE LOBBY AREA, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, THE POLICE FUNCTION ITSELF THAT IS REFLECTED IN BLUE AND THEN THE SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

>> AND YOU MAY RECALL, AT ONE POINT, THIS IS SUPPOSE TO BE POLICE AND FIRE.

>> FIRE. >> IN ORDER TO REDUCE COSTS WE TALKED ABOUT MOVING FIRE AND OVER INTO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BUILDING, WHICH IS AN UPGRADE AS FAR AS ACE AND QUALITY OF SPACE FROM THE CURRENT BUILDING. THIS IS THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE

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FIRE. >> CORRECT. >> DOES THIS GIVE POLICE ALL

THE SPACE THAT --INSPECTORS LOOKING? >> GOOD QUESTION.

>> IS THERE ANY OPERATIONAL (INAUDIBLE) FIRE TOGETHER? >> WE HAVE THAT FACILITY

INTEGRATION.HAS SOME - SO IN THIS INSTANCE NO. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, GENTLEMEN, DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION ON THAT? POLICE AND FIRE TOGETHER?

>> I'LL SAY, BECAUSE IT'S -- ~>> SOMETIMES I HAVE ZERO. >> I'LL SAY, FIRE ADMIN, THEY'RE GOING TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THE POLICE BUILDING AND ADMIN ARE GOING TO BE NEXT TO EACH OTHER. FROM THE CONTINUITY, WE'RE ACROSS THE HALL.

WE TALK ON A REGULAR BASIS, OPERATIONAL THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT INCREASE,

ENHANCEMENT. I DON'T PERSONALLY THINK. >> AND I AGREE.

>> LET ME ASK MY QUESTION AGAIN. >> OKAY. >> DOES THIS ACCOUNT FOR ANY, WHAT FUTURE GROWTH DOES THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING IS IT GOING TO BE BUILT ON?

IS THERE A, A FUTURE CAPACITY THAT YOU'RE BUILDING TO? >> THAT WAS A TOPIC OF SIGNIFICANT DISCUSSION. AND THAT WAS PART OF THE CHALLENGE AND SENT OUT TODAY, IT GIVES REQUESTS THE BRINKLY STUDY WAS DONE AND THEY SUGGESTED A MUCH LARGER FACILITY WAS NEEDED. OF COURSE THEY PROJECTED THAT WE WOULD HAVE A LARGER POLICE STAND AND MUCH LARGER POPULATION AS A COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHO IS CRYSTAL BALL, WE CANNOT AFFORD A MUCH LARGER STAFF. DO YOU PUT NA INTO PATROL VERSUS DETECTIVES? PATROL IS MOSTLY OUT ON THE FIELD AND DETECTIVES AND PERSONNEL ARE INSIDE. SO THERE IS A LOT OF VARIABLES THAT DRIVE THAT.

WE WERE FOCUSED ON WHAT IS TRYING TO PROVIDE THE MOST OPERATIONAL SPACE WITHIN THE FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS THAT WE HAVE. ?R. MY WHOLE THING, MY CONVERSATIONS WERE IS THAT I WANT TO MAKE IT BIG ENOUGH THAT WE'RE NOT BUILDING ANOTHER

POLICE STATION IN 20 YEARS. >> THAT WAS MY OWN, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO REWRITE THIS

THING IN FIVE YEARS. >> MAYBE I'LL RECALL, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT JUST, IF ALL IT, REALLY WHAT IS A MAX POPULATION? DO YOU KNOW WHAT NUMBER THEY

WERE USING? >> IS HEARD 100,000. >> WAS OUR BUILD OUT POPULATION.

>> I HEARD LIKE MAX? >> I THINK THEY'RE GETTING TO 100 WITH TWO ASSUMPTIONS.

EITHER BUILDING VERY DENSE OR THAT YOU'RE REDEVELOPING CURRENT SMALL LOT OR LOT DEVELOPMENT, THE SIGNIFICANT WAY. SO, AND IF YOU DO ONE OF THOSE

TWO THINGS, OF COURSE YOU HAVE NOT BEEN WANTING TO APPROVE. >> YEAH.

THAT'S KIND OF ONE OF THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT WAS MADE. >> I'M NOT SURE THAT IS GOING TO BE. I'M NOT SURE THAT'S A REALISTC ASSUMPTION.

I THINK THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT.

>> YEAH, AROUND 800,000. >> IT'S LESS THAN 100,000. >> SO WHAT IS OUR, WHAT IS OUR CURRENT SPACE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? 2 2000?

>> 2 2000 IN THE CURRENT BUILDING. >> AND PROPOSED SPACE FOR IN IS

WHAT? >> IT'S 70,000. >> 70,000.

SO WE'RE TALKING 3X OF WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. SXL OUR POPULATION IS NOT GOING TO BE 3X. IS IT REASONABLE IN RECOGNIZING,--.

>> SORRY. NO PLEASE. REPEAT YOUR QUESTION.

>> MY QUESTION IS IS IT 70,000 FOR POLICE. >> THAT'S INCOMPASSES, POLICE,

COURTS AND DETENTION. >> WELL IT'S THE OTHER BUILDING. >> CHIEF IS IT FAIR SO SAY, BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN DEVELOPING THE SCHEMATIC, IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT EVERYTHING GREW

PROPORTIONATELY? OR IS THERE SOME OUT LIEER? >> SO, I WOULD SAY, 3X, THE

JAIL IS A GOOD EXAMPLE. >> IS THAT THE DETENTION CENTER? >> HOLDING FACILITY.

>> HOLDING FACILITY. [LAUGHTER] >> LOOKING AT OTHER FACILITIES,

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BUT, IT, IT MAINLY PER CAPACITY MUCH MORE OPERATIONAL FUNCTIONAL.

>> YES. >> MUCH SAFER, AND IT, IT PROBABLY, I THINK IT DOUBLED

THE SPACE. >> THAT MAKES SENSE. I THINK THE QUESTION I WAS REALLY DRIVING OUT THERE IS, POLICE GOT PROPORTIONATELY A RIGHT AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL SPACE THAT WAS ADDED. IT'S NOT LIKE THE COURTS TOOK HALF THE BUILDING?

>> CORRECT. >> ALL RIGHT. >> I THINK THE COURTS DIDN'T GROW VERY MUCH. I HAVE NOT DONE THE MATH AND PLUS, SOME OF THE COURTS BASICALLY IF YOU LOOK AT THAT ONE, THE ACTUAL COURTROOM, THE LARGER COURTROOM IS A JOINT USE SPACE. SO WE'RE ABLE TO FREE UP MORE SPACE FOR OPERATIONS.

>> WHAT DID THEY SAY. AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE SEEN THIS.

THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE IN YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

YOU'VE GOT TO SOME OTHER THINGS THAT THE OTHER ONE DOES NOT HAVE.

WHERE THE TRAINING ROOM HAS BEEN BIG AND NOW IT'S OCCUPIED BY OTHER OFFICES, SO YOU NEED THAT ROOM OR TRAINING, YOU NEED TO HAVE, YOU NEED TO HAVE, I GUESS ADEQUATE SPACE TO DO ADEQUATE TRAINING, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT. YOU'RE GOING IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING ELSE IN THE WAY. SO, WE NEED NOT TO MISS THE MARK HERE, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED

TO DO. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE WHAT WE SAW, I'LL NEVER SAY THAT ANY DESIGN IS PERFECT, IN FACT, WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF CHANGING THIS ASSET BUILDING WAS ORIENTED TO MAKE A DRIVE-THRU BAY TO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT.

THIS IS ACTUALLY WHERE WE HAD INTEND TODAY DO PUT MUCH OF THE LARGER FACILITY.

AND ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT CHIEF HAD, IS A SPACE WHERE WE CAN DRIVE A VEHICLE IN AND TRAIN A VEHICLE, SO THAT IS FACILITY CREATED IN THE ASSET BUILDING. THE REASON THE ASSET BUILDING GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY, IT HAS LOWER CONSTRUCTION COST ON A QUAIR FOOT, IT GIVES US A LOT

OF HEIGHT SO WE CAN DO STORAGE. >> THAT'S A GREAT IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE YOU HAD THE SURVEY BUT GEORGETOWN HAS A GREAT EXAMPLE PF POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEN THE OUTER BUILDING BEHIND IS A BUILDING WHERE THEY CAN MOVE THINGS AROUND AND MAKE DIFFERENT OBSTACLES AND OFFICES AND CLASSROOMS OR WHATEVER FOR TRAINING AND THEY CAN WATCH AND OVER WATCH AS THEY'RE DOING IT. SO IT'S MUCH OF GOOD TRAINING TOOL. AND THE WORK ROOM OVER THERE TOO.

>> YEAH. >> SO LET'S MOVE ON, IT'S EASY, I'LL SPEAK FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE, IT'S EASY TO LOOK AND START TO PICK THINGS THAT NEED TO CHANGE.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, YOUR PURPOSE IS TO PROVIDE A STATUS OF IT YES BUT BASED ON THE PREVIOUS SITE, THE PARK SITE, THIS IS WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT. ALL OF THIS COULD BE I DON'T

WANT TO SAY OUT THE WINDOW BUT A DIFFERENT SITE. >> CORRECT DEPENDING ON WHAT USES. PIECE AND DESIGN INDEPENDENT, UES AND AGAIN, THAT WOULD ALL, AGAIN THE COST THAT YOU SAW EARLIER, THOSE WOULD BE VERY VERY DIFFERENT TOO.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT DELTA IS, IF IT NEEDED THIS DELTA. BUT WHY WE'RE HERE IS BECAUSE WE DID PRESS PAUSE AND WE WENT BACK TO TAKE AND TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL FORESIGHT STUDIES FOR A NEW, NEW MUNICIPAL COMPLEX AND SERVICES AND THEIR PROPOSAL INCLUDES THE OF COURSE WE DISCUSSED IT WITH THEM. AND HAVE AN OPTION FOR PARK

WHICH IS THE LOCATION TOO, ALSO LET'S IDENTIFY -- ~>> SORRY.

SORRY. LET'S CLARIFY THAT FOR JUST A MOMENT.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. WHEN YOU SAY,--PARK, YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT.

SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT A MAP, THERE IS A BIG SQUARE SLASH RECTANGLE THAT IS MILLER

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AND THE WEB ZONE ARE TO THE EAST OF THAT. >> CORRECT.

>> AND KONG RARA PARK IS TO THE EAST. TO THE RIGHT, IS THAT PARK?

>> IT IS. >> IT'S ALL PARKLAND? >> YES.

CORRECT. >> AND LET'S BE HERE, TONIGHT IT'S FEEDBACK.

>> JUST FEEDBACK. >> AND THE REASON WHY THAT'S ON THERE, IS WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY, THAT THEY WANTED US TO CONSIDER THE SITE THAT THEY VOTED ON AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE ONE THE MAYOR POINTED OUT THAT THE COMMUNITY WAS ON IN THAT AREA.

SO, THAT'S WHY WE INCLUDED ON THIS LIST. CAN YOU TELL US TONIGHT, WE'LL

TAKE IT OFF THE LIST. >> THE SCOPE IS STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS AND THAT'S WHY WE

WANTED GIVE YOU AN UPDATE IN CASE WE NEED TO MODIFY. >> LET ME ASK, SO WE'VE FOUND

NO OTHER VIABLE LOCATIONS IN THE CITY. >> WE HAVE NOT EVEN STARTED.

>> CORRECT. >> YOU HAVE NOT STARTED? >> CORRECT.

>> MY OWN REASON TO TAKE THE KANGRO PARK SIDE IS THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED AND SAID PUBLICLY, IS THAT IT'S NOT OPERATIONAL EFFICIENT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING TO BE

LOCATED THERE. >> I DON'T DISPUTE. >> OKAY, SO ME, THAT'S PROBABLY

NOT THE BEST SITE. >> I AGREE. >> EGRESS AND INGRESS.

>> NOW WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE ANIMAL SHELTER THERE, I ALSO DON'T THINK THAT MAKES A TON OF SENSE. BUT FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, I WOULD, MIX THAT AS AN OPTION. UNLESS THERE IS SOME COMPELLING REASON NOT TO DO SO.

>> I AGREE. >> OTHERWISE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A SITE THAT NONE OF US ARE

GOING TO SUPPORT. >> CORRECT. >> SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.

>> NO, THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S WHY THIS IS HERE FOR DISCUSSION SO WE CAN STRIKE WHAT WE NEED TO STRIKE. AND THEN OF COURSE WE NEED TO LOOK AT OTHER OPTION OZ WHICH PERHAPS YOU HAVE SOME ALTERNATIVES TONIGHT AND THEN HAVE ADDITIONAL COUNCIL

WORKSHOPS SO THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC INPUT IS THERE. >> SO ONE SIDE, IF YOU'RE

TAKING RECOMMENDATIONS ON SITES? >> YES, THE LAST BULLET, SEEKING YOUR DIRECTION.

>> PERFECT. >> IF I CAN, IF I CAN SNAP MY FINGERS OR BLINK ANY EYES WHATEVER I DREAM OF GENIE DOES AND SOLVE THIS PROBLEM TODAY, HERE'S WHAT I WILL DO.

THERE IS A PROPERTY SOUTH OF THE EXISTING POLICE FACILITY. IT IS NORTH OF, THE APARTMENTS THERE, I CANNOT THINK OF THE NAME FOR SOME REASON. THAT PROPERTY HAS BEEN FOR SALE FOR A LONG TIME AND IT WAS PLATED AND ZONED TO BE A XHISHL DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS SUPPOSE TO BE BUILT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE APARTMENTS, I'M TALKING 2017, IT'S OLD.

THERE ARE THREE HOMES, I THINK THREE HOMES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE HOME THERE.

ONE OF THE HOMES IS ALSO FOR SALE. IF IT WERE POSSIBLE AND AGAIN IF I CAN SNAP MY FINGERS AND MAKE IT HAPPEN, I WOULD PLACE THE BUILDING TOGETHER IN ONE FACILITY ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. I THINK THAT GETS YOUR, YOUR ECONOMY'S TO SCALE IN THE RIGHT SPOT SO YOU HAVE BOTH FACILITY TOGETHER AND CONSTRUCTING AS ONE UNIT, THERE WILL BE SEGREGATION BUT FOR SOME REASON IS THERE COULD BE SOME CONNECTIVITY. AND THEN BACK TO LONG BRANCH CREEK WHICH IS ON THE WEST END OF THE PROPERTY WHICH IS WHERE THE POLICE PROPERTY WOULD BE. WHAT I REALLY LIKE IS NUMBER ONE, MAINTAIN POLICE SPACE. SO THERE IS NOT THAT MASSIVE RELOCATING THINGS.

YOU HAVE ADJACENT SEE WITH THE PARKING LOT THAT IS ALREADY THERE, THANK YOU, SIR.

SO, YOU CAN SEE THE PARKING LOT ON THE UPPER LEFT CORNER, SORRY. SO THE ADJACENT SEE CONNECTS WELL. AND THEN IT ALL TIES IN, AND EVENTUALLY, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY THAT PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING NA IS THERE NOW AND THE POLICE BUILDING BECOMING A

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THAT WOULD REQUIRE PURCHASING TWO PROPERTIES. THAT'S A SEPARATE SITUATION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD. I PROPOSE THAT WE WOULD LEAVE THE ANIMAL SHELTER.

SOME CONVERSATIONS SAID THAT MADE SENSE. AND IN PARTICULAR WHERE IT'S LOCATED. THE SITE IS, IS ADJACENT TO A WOODED AREA WHICH HELPS WITH THE NOISE AND SOUND AND THE FACT THAT THERE IS A DOG PARK THAT IS GOING TO BE THERE, THAT IS CONTEMPLATED TO BE THERE, I THINK ALSO HELPS INTEGRATE REALLY WELL.

AND THE MAJORITY OF THE OBJECTIONS THAT I RECALL, REALLY FOCUSED ON PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING. AND IT'S ADJACENTCY TO NEIGHBORHOODS AND SCHOOLS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO GET. REGARDLESS OF EVERYTHING, REGARDLESS OF EVERYTHING ELSE.

BUT TO MAINTAIN THE ECONOMY, WE PULL CITY HALL OUT THERE AND MAKE IT ONE FACILITY, YOU END UP WITH SOME SAVINGS JUST IN THE OVERALL COSTS OF CONSTRUCTION.

YOU'RE ALSO IN AN AREA WHERE THERE IS EXISTING UTILITIES. THE UTILITIES TO THE BACK OF THAT, WERE GOING TO BE, I DON'T REMEMBER BUT THERE WAS A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AND WE WERE EVEN, WORKING WITH THE APARTMENT DEVELOPER TO THE EAST TO GET UTILITIES TO THE BACK OF

THAT SITE AS WEL. >> THAT'S RIGHT. WHERE THE ANIMAL SHELTER IS

NOW, WE GOT WATER. >> SO THAT'S. >> IF YOU GOT EVEN A NUMBER ON

WHAT THE PROPERTIES MAY COST? >> I HAVE NOT. YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED THIS SITE FIRST OFF A WHILE BACK,--TO CRISTOF A WHILE BACK. YOU'RE PROBABLY TALKING A COUPLE OF MILLION TO BUY THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. IT WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME.

>> YEAH. I MEAN. SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF MENTIONED WHEN I TALKED ABOUT PAUSING, THERE IS NEVER GOING TO BE A WORLD WHERE WE MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY. BUT IT RAISES A VALID POINT. WE CAN BUILD IT AT GRIFFIN PARK AND WE'LL HAVE AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY THAT IS UPSET. WE CAN BUILD IT WHERE I'M PROPOSING AND THERE WILL BE SOME FOLKS UPSET. , YOU CAN BUILD IT UP IN THE NORTH SHORE AND I'M SURE FOLKS WOULD BE UPSET THAT WE'RE EN COUNTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT

BECAUSE WE'RE USING PROPERTY BETTER SUITED. >> AND THERE IS STILL GOING TO

BE PEOPLE UPSET. >> RIGHT. THAT'S MY PROPOSAL.

CERTAINLY OPEN TO OTHER IDEAS AS MENTIONED, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR FOUR DIFFERENT PROPOSALS,

CORRECT? >> THAT'S AN IDEA. >> SO I DON'T THINK I AGREE WITH PUTTING ANIMAL SHELTER IN OUR GROUP. I FEEL LIKE THAT TAKES AWAY FROM THE ASPECT OF THE PARK. IT IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S A MUNICIPAL FUNCTION.

AND I FEEL LIKE THE PARK NEEDS TO REMAIN THE PARK AND HAVE THAT THAT, FULL PARK EXPERIENCE.

I MEAN, NOISE, SMELLS. NOT THAT I HAVE EVER SMELLED ANYTHING.

I JUST DON'T THINK THAT, I A MUNICIPALITY FACILITY BELONGS IN THE PARK SPACE.

>> THAT'S FAIR. THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE THE DESIGN FOR US AND PUBLIC INPUT SESSIONS. AND WITH THOSE PUBLIC INPUT SESSIONS, I WANT TO LAYOUT FOR PEOPLE, PROPOSED ADVANTAGES AND HERE ARE POSSIBLE DISADVANTAGES. AND THE COMMUNITY WILL HAVE THEIR OWN EN RESPECTIVE ON THAT JUST LIKE YOU DID. THE BEST WAY IS IDENTIFY WHAT

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THROW ANY. >> I LIGHT THE RIGHT SIDE, PEOPLE ARE USED TO THE POLICE BEING THERE. THERE IS INDUSTRIAL TO THE BACK OF IT.

I JUST FEEL LIKE, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY PIT SITE. >> YEAH, I THINK WE CAN EXPLORE LOOKING AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER BECAUSE THEY ARE HAVING A HARD TIME BACK THERE, OCCUPYING,

GETTING THE TENANTS TO GET BACK THERE AND BUILD. >> WHERE IS THAT?

>> NOT INDUSTRIAL. >> CENTURY. >> ON THE BACK OF LAUREN LANE

AND THE CIRCLE. >> THE CIRCLE, MAYBE INVESTIGATE THAT.

>> AND THERE IS A PARK BACK THERE? >> THERE IS, BUT IT'S AN INDUSTRIAL PARK. SO YOU'RIZATION MORE TOWARDS THE FRONT.

>> YES, AND I BROUGHT IT BACK. CONCERNING THE ANIMAL SHELTER. IN THE PARK, WITH DOG PARKS WITH THE LAKE, WITH THAT SYNERGY. I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S THAT HAS TO HAPPEN BUT I THINK WE'RE CONSIDERING AND I HAVE THAT WHEN PEOPLE SPEAK, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA BEING ABLE TO PULL THE WHOLE ANIMAL LOVER PET GROUP, YOU KNOW.

M THERE. I THINK THAT'S WORTH CONSIDERATION.

I THINK THAT'S WORTH BEING PRESENTED THAT WAY. >> WITH THE DOG PARK AND I

THINK IT ENHANCES. >> I PERSONALLY DO TOO BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENT OPINIONS.

>> WELL AT THE PARK, IF WE GO WITH MORE TRADITIONAL DESIGN, IT MAY NOT HAVE A LAKE.

>> I THINK THE DOG PARK, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE DOG PARKS WHERE EVER THEY ARE WITH THE ASSOCIATION WITH THE ANIMAL SHELTER. THAT'S MY OPINION.

>> WAS THIS PARK A SUGGESTION? JUST FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER OVER THERE?

>> JUST THE ANIMAL SHELTER. AND I COMPLETELY AGREE JEFF. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BACK THERE, CAN ACTUALLY COMINGLE WITH EXISTING STUFF. THE TOWER T YOU HAVE TO PUT ANOTHER TOWER IF YOU GO OVER HERE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY CAN USE THE SAME TOWER THERE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO REALLY GET RID OF THE EXISTING, AND PROBABLY STILL

HAVE A NEW ONE, YOU NEVER HAVE EVIDENCE EVER. >> FROM I UNDERSTAND, THE

BUILDING THERE HAS MAJOR FOUNDATION ISSUES. >> SO IT CAN BE USED FOR ANY KIND, WHATEVER THEY DECIDE WHAT IS THE BEST USE FOR THEM. THERE IS NO REASON, BUT THERE IS STUFF THAT, THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE COMPLEX BETWEEN USING THE PARKING AND DOING STUFF OVER THERE AND LIKE YOU SAID, I THINK IT WAS YOU THAT SAID IT. ALL THAT STUFF COMINGLES DOES NOT DO ANYTHING. LIKE I SAID, YOU CAN PUT A LIBRARY IN THERE.

YOU CAN PUT ANYTHING IN THERE. YOU CAN PUT FIRE IN THERE. YOU CAN PUT ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD THERE THAT WE KIND OF NEED THE DECISION TO DO THAT. SO I THINK A LOT IS A GOOD IDEAS AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES MAKE SENSE TO BE THERE TO ME.

IT'S ALWAYS MADE SENSE. EVEN BACK IN THE DAY WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BONDS AND DOING THIS AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN, THAT'S WHERE THEY WERE LOOKING AT THAT AND THE APARTMENTS WERE NOT THERE, THE CITY WAS GOING TO TAKE THE WHOLE AREA ALL THE WAY DOWN AND IT WAS GOING TO BE ALL THE MUNICIPAL PLAN. AND THEN THE GREAT RECESSION IS WHAT THEY'RE CALLING IT T IT CAME ALONG AND THREW ALL THE PLANS OUT THE WINDOW.

>> IT WILL BE. I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE THE JAILS, AND LEAVE THE JAIL WHERE

IT IS. >> WHATEVER YOU CALL IT. >> DETENTION CENTER, HOLDING

FACILITY AND LEAVE IT. >> I'LL JUST CALL IT PRISON. [LAUGHTER]

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>> YEAH, NICE AND LIGHT SECURITY PRISON. THE MONEY TO DESIGN.

YOU KNOW, YOU WALK AROUND THERE IS MUNICIPAL, YOU GOT DOWNTOWN AND TO ME, IT JUST FLOWS REALLY NICE AND THAT'S JUST MY OPINION, UNPOPULAR, THAT'S MY OPINION.

IT MAY BE WRONG, IT'S OKAY TO BE WRONG. AND WE'LL LET THE COMMUNITY COME BACK AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL FOR MAKING THE DECISION. I'LL BE HERE WHATEVER YOU

DECIDE. >> YEAH. >> I WILL SAY THE ONE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH UP ON CENTURY, KATIE PARK AND THAT WHOLE AREA REGARDLESS OF WHICH BUILDING MAY OR MAY NOT. TO MY MIND, WE'RE SPENDING A TON OF MONEY FOR THIS, THIS IS TRANSFORMATION FOR THE CITY. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT'S VISIBLE AND THAT THERE IS, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN SENSE OF PRIDE AND SENSE OF MOVING FORWARD.

YOU KNOW, YOU TUCK AWAY SOMETHING, MAYBE THAT'S FINE BUT I THINK IT'S A MISSED OPPORTUNITY. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS, I KIND OF LIKE, PARK, IS BECAUSE VISIBILITY IS SORT OF THAT CIVIC PRIDE OF HAVING THAT. AND SO AND ROWLETT ROAD KIND OF DOES THAT. WE START TALKING, I HEARD DIFFERENT PLACE SXZ THEY'RE ALL TUCKED BEHIND AND THAT. SCRAPYARD OR SOMETHING. YOU KNOW, THAT'S WE'RE SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON THESE. I THINK THAT THE, THAT THE, THE VISIBILITY AND THE MESSAGE IT

SENDS TO THE CITY IS IMPORTANT. IN MY OPINION. >> THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING

TO ON, IS THAT CORRECT? >> IT MAY NOT BE FOR THE ANIMALS.

>> OUT THERE DOING DID THE SAME. >> IT'S NOT THE END ALL BE ALL. THERE IS ALSO SO MANY ROAD

FURNISHED. >> THAT IS THE SAME ISSUE TOO. >> YEP.

>> YOU KNOW, WITH JUST YOU KNOW, THE POLICE STATION, I LIKE THE IDEA OF ANIMAL SHELTER.

>> OKAY. SO, I'VE GOT REALLY TWO OPTIONS, I THINK WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS ROWLETT ROAD, FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND I GOT ROWLETT ROAD AS AN OPTION.

OKAY. I'M GOING TO GIVE A THIRD OPTION AND SEE WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THIS ONE. I HAD A FRIEND REACH OUT TO MILES TERRY WITH JACKSON SHAW AND THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING AN ADDITIONAL--SO THEY'VE GOT THE EXISTING BUILDINGS IN

PLACE, SIX OF THEM. AND MAYBE FIVE. >> THERE IS SIX.

>> THERE WILL BE ANOTHER BUILDING. SO IF YOU'RE DRIVING NORTH AND YOU PASS THE EXISTING BUILDINGS THAT ARE THERE, THERE IS A BIG FLAT LAND MASS THAT THEY PUT UP.

THAT IS GOING TO BE ONE VERY LARGE BUILDING OR THREE SMALLER BUILDINGS? IT WILL BE STARTING CONSTRUCTION ON THOSE I BELIEVE IN THE FALL, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND. SO WE HAVE THE OPTION TO PURCHASE ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS AND HAVE IT BUILT QUOTE TO ORDER OR WHATEVER, WE CAN HAVE IT BUILT WITH WALLS AND WE CAN CUSTOMIZE IT. THE CHALLENGE AND I'VE TALKED TO CRISTOF ABOUT THAT, IS THE PUBLIC BUILDING NECESSITATES, LIKE A CELL OR PORTER, A PLACE WHERE YOU PUT PEOPLE.

>> THE TIMEOUT. > TIMEOUT FACILITY, SO THERE HAS UNIQUE CUSTOMIZATION.

WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION QUICKLY OVER THE COURSE OF SUMMER BEFORE THEY GET INTO CONTRACTING TO HAVE CONSTRUCTION GO UP UNTIL CONSTRUCTION, WAREHOUSES CAN GO UP REALLY QUICK. THAT IS AN OPTION, IF THE POLICE STATION WERE TO BE RELOCATED UP THERE, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT AND I HAVE NOT VERIFIED THIS, THAT IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST POINTS ELEVATION WISE. SO THE TOWER WOULD NOT HAVE BE AS TALL AS TO GET COVERAGE OF TE CITY. ONE MAJOR DISADVANTAGE IS IT PUTS YOUR POLICE STATION AS FAR AWAY FROM RUSTIC CITY AS YOU CAN GET.

>> YES, ANOTHER REASON I HAD A HARD TIME. >> SO, JUST LIKE THAT AS AN

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OPTION. >> I LIKE THAT AS AN OPTION. >> WHY NOT HAVE A CONSIDERATION, IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THINKS IT WILL WORK OPERATIONALLY.

>> WELL I HAVE NOT TALKED TO PD ABOUT THIS. [LAUGHTER]

>> I'M SAYING IF THEY THINK IT WOULD WORK AND THAT COULD BE AN OPTION, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE

WOULD DISCOUNT IT IMMEDIATELY. I THINK YOU SHOULD CONSIDER IT. >> OKAY, I'LL CONSIDER IT.

>> SHOULD IT BE IN OUR LIST OF CONSIDERATION? >> NOT IN MY MIND?

>> NO. >> THAT WAS A NO, FOUR NOES. OKAY, THE OTHER IDEA, SERGEANT.

THE OTHER OPTION FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER THAT I GAVE IT SOME THOUGHT TO, MARTIN AND INDUSTRIAL, HIPPED THE CARNATION CARWASH. A LITTLE BIT MORE OUT OF YOUR OPEN, TO YOUR POINT DON'T HIDE IT BEHIND SOMETHING. VERY SPECIFICALLY ANIMAL SHELTER, THE ONLY DOWNSIDE IS THERE ARE SEVERAL PLOTS OF LAND AND THEY'RE NOT OWNED BY SAME PERSON. BUT ON THAT CORNER IS LARGE ENOUGH AND I THINK I TALKED TO CRISTOF ABOUT THAT SPACE AS WELL. ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT

THE DIMENSIONS OR SIZE OF THAT LAND? >> WELL IT MAY TAKE THREE LOTS

BUT. >> OKAY. >> THERE IS A LOT OF OPEN SPACE.

>> I DON'T WANT YOU TO PUT YOU IN A POSITION WHETHER IT'S GOING TO WORK OR NOT.

BUT IT WILL WORK. >> I THINK SO. >> OH YOU KNOW, PERSPECTIVE, I LIKE JEFF, I DO ERG THAT THEY SAID. I LIKE THE ANIMAL SHELTER DEPENDING ON LAND ACQUISITION, BUT MY POINT, HAVE WE THOUGHT FOR CITY HALL JUST FOR THAT BL, ACROSS FROM 190 ADJACENT TO FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH THAT LAND IS FOR SALE THAT CORNER.

>> 90TH AND MAY? >> YEAH, ACROSS. >> THE NORTHEAST CORNER.

ADJACENT TO THE CHURCH? >> YEAH. >> OH NORTHWEST.

>> THAT'S A HUGE PROPERTY. >> OH THAT'S THE OTHER ONE. >> IS IT STILL EGRESSING IT?

>> YEAH, I MEAN. WE CAN RIDE BY, THEY HAD AN EGRESS ON BOTH SIDES.

YOU CAN HAVE ON YINEA AS WELL. BUT THAT'S PRIME REAL ESTATE. >> THERE IS MORE VISIBILITY.

>> YEAH. >> COST OF THAT MAY BE HIGHER. >> OKAY.

>> CHAIR? >> NEXT PERSON UP. >> YES.

>> NOT SURE IF THEY SELL IT OR NOT. >> IF THEY DO.

>> SOMEBODY PULL A D-CAT AND LOOK. >> DO WE WANT TO HAVE THAT AS

AN OPTION? >> YEAH. ONE THING I LIKE IT IS THE SORT OF THING, YOU'VE GOT IT RIGHT DOWNTOWN, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A CERTAIN ACTIVE AT THIS TIME THERE, IT'S ON A VERY BUSY CORNER. AGAIN BUT PUT THE DOG PARKS THERE, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS ENOUGH ROOM BUT FOR ME, GETS THAT VISIBILITY, THAT WALKABILITY, IT BECOMES ACTIVE RATHER THAN PUTTING IT BEHIND SOMETHING.

I JUST THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. EXPENSIVE BECAUSE WE, WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON NO-KILL SHELTERS.

IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NO-KILL SHELTER, WHATEVER YOU CAN DO, TO MAKE THAT EASIER MORE ATTRACTIVE WHATEVER, THE WORD IS S I THINK WE'RE CONSIDERING. I THINK IT'S A LEGITIMATE.

>> SO PGBT NEXT TO THE METHODIST CHURCH? >> NO.

NO THE ONE OVER ON MART PINS. >> OH. >> RIGHT THERE ON--.

>> OKAY. OKAY. >> I'M NOT, I'M NOT.

>> OKAY, YEAH, LET'S SORRY, ONE AREA AT A TIME. >> METHODIST CHURCH IT'S 7.3 ACRES AT 7.3 ACRES. 1.5. CURRENT TAXABLE.

THE OTHER PROPERTY IS TEN ACRES 1.3. >> NOT INCLUDING THE HOUSE?

>> NOT INCLUDING THE HOUSE, IT'S JUST THE OPEN LOT. >> TEN ACRES.

>> OKAY, SO WE'VE PITCHED LIKE THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR ANIMAL SHELTER.

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DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS. >> WE CHALLENGED OVER TO FINE SITES TOO. YOU DON'T NEED TO IDENTIFY ALL FOUR THEM, WE JUST WONDERED IF THEY'RE THE ONE YOU WANT TO LOOK AT AND THEN WE CHARGE THEM TO DO A LOOK, THEY CAN PROPERTY

THEMSELVES. >> SO LET'S CIRCLE BACK TO MR. BOWER'S QUESTION.

WE DON'T WANT THAT ON THE LIST. BECAUSE IT'S A MAJOR COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR?

>> IT'S TOO VALUABLE. >> OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> HOW ABOUT INDUSTRIAL AND PGBT WHERE THE LITTLE PARK MAINTENANCE SHED USED TO BE?

THAT'S PRETTY SMALL. >> JUST EAST OF THE SHELTER? >> YEAH.

>> OKAY, WERE THERE ANY OTHERS THAT ANYBODY HAD IN MIND THAT THEY WANTED TO LOOK AT.

SO THEN THE FOUR OPTIONS, FIVE OPTIONS TECHNICALLY. THE FEW OPTIONS PROVIDE READY, THE OTHER THREE WE WILL--ROWLETT ROAD AND HERB BERT PARK FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER. THE NEXT OPTION ROWLETT ROAD AND TOLAR PARK FOR THE SHELTER AND INDID I RUSTIAL ANIMAL SHELTER. THAT'S THREE OF THE FOUR

OPTIONS AND HOPEFULLY, THEY CAN BRING SOME OTHER OPTIONS TOO. >> GREAT SO WE'LL CHARGE THEM AND HAVE THEM BACK TO YOU, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THEY TEST THAT INFORMATION AND THEN WE'LL GO OUT DIFFERENT AREAS IN THE COMMUNITY, AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE BROUGHT UP CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND BRING THAT FEEDBACK AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU AGAIN.

>> PERFECT. OKAY, COOL. COUNCIL OTHER QUESTIONS,

COMMENTS ON THIS ONE? >> ANSWERING THE QUESTION THAT I WAS GOING TO ANSWER EARLIER, WE SPENT 1.3 MILLION APPROXIMATELY AND THIS PROCESS WILL COST US ABOUT 150,000.

>> DID YOU CATCH THAT ANSWER? >> I'M SORRY. >> CRISTOF, DO YOU MIND

REPEATING IT. >> SURVEYS AND DESIGN ABOUT 1.3 SPENT.

>> IS THERE A BREAK DOWN OF HOW THAT IS EXPENDED OUT OF THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS?

>> WE DON'T HAVE THAT BREAK DOWN. >> OKAY.

OKAY, COUNCIL ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THAT WRAPS UP 3C. AND WE'LL MOVE TO 4 WHICH IS DISCUSS TO CONSENT AGENDA FOR

[4. Discuss Consent Agenda Items for March 17, 2026, City Council Meeting ]

PULL FOR CONSIDERATION? >> I REMEMBER THAT ONE, IS ON THE--PMI SOFTWARE.

>> YEAH, THE SOFTWARE. >> SO WE WANT TO PULL THAT ITEM FOR INDIVIDUAL PRESENTATION.

>> COUNCIL ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT WE WANT TO PULL FOR CONSIDERATION TOMORROW?

>> ALL RIGHT,

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