[1. Call to Order] [00:00:07] >> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN TODAY IS MONDAY, 2026, IT'S 6 [2. Citizens’ Input] O'CLOCK AND CITY COUNCIL HAS QUO QUORUM. AND THE FIRST POINT IS CITIZEN INPUT, AT THIS TIME COMMENTS WILL BE TAKEN ON THE AUDIENCE ON ANY TOPIC, AND START WITH MARK TACHET. >> MAYOR, THIS IS ON ITEM 4A, THE SHED ORDINANCE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY BACK ON THE AGENDA AGAIN, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR SIX YEARS, CONTINUOUS COMPLAINTS AND HARASSMENT FROM MY NEIGHBOR AND ABOUT ON ANY AND EVERYTHING AS PART OF A GRUDGE AGAINST ME. THAT HAS SPIRALLED OUT OF CONTROL. AND NOW SEEMED TO RECRUITED AN ALIE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, I AM TIRED OF IT AS ANY COUNCIL TIRED. THE CITY PASSED ORDINANCE AND ISSUED A PERMIT AND FOUND THE SHED IN COMPLIANCE AND SIGNED OFF ON THE SHED. CITY OFFICIALS REPEATED CONTINUOUSLY THAT THIS IS A DISPUTE AND TO PUT BACK ON CITY COUNCIL AGENDA. IN A CLOSED PRIVATE MEETING WHICH LOOKS BAD. I HOPE THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL ADVISE THE COUNCIL AS MAYOR PREVIOUSLY STATED IN PUBLIC SPEECH THAT THE CITY'S INVOLVEMENT HAS ENDED. AND I HOPE THAT THE COUNCIL WILL STAND BY THE PREVIOUS DECISION AND INSPECTOR OF THE PERMIT AND APPROVING THE REQUEST THAT WAS FULFILLED. TIME AND MONETARY INVESTMENTS PUT IN COMPLYING WITH THE CITY ORDINANCE. ANY TYPE OF REVERSAL THAT SENDS SHOCK WAVES TO RESIDENT OR BUSINESS [INAUDIBLE] TO REPEAT, THERE ARE NO ISSUES WITH THIS SHED. IT IS FULLY COMPLIANT. IT IS FOUR INCHES ON TO MY SIDE OF THE PROPERTY LINE WHICH CAN BE VALIDATED BY SEVERAL APPRAISALS OF THE PROPERTY, SURVEYS. THE SHED WAS PLACED THERE LONG BEFORE THE NEIGHBORS EVER MOVED IN. NO ISSUE TO TWO PREVIOUS OWNERS OR TWO PREVIOUS RENTERS. I HAVE 30 SECONDS REMAINING, ALSO ON LIGHTING ORDINANCE REWRITES. CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH THAT THE ACTUAL VALUES AND DEFINITIONS FOR THIS ARE CLOSELY LOOKED AT, THAT'S THE MEAT AND POTATOES OF THAT ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER CARD FOR DAN HANEY, STATE YOUR NAME. >> DAN HANEY, 9797 ROCKDALE DRIVE. MR. MAYOR, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE COUNCIL THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME AND SPEAK TODAY. I WANT TO DISCUSS TWO QUICK ISSUES, ONE COMMERCIAL LIGHTING COMING FROM THE PROPERTY AT 6700 HERITAGE BEACON HARBOR THAT SHINES OVER ON TO MY PROPERTY. THIS JUST STARTED IN JANUARY. I GOT PHOTOS AND STUFF THAT I PROVIDED WITH JUMP DRIVE HERE YOU GUYS CAN LOOK AT LATER ON. BUT YOU SEE THAT LOOKS LIKE A SPACESHIP. AND THEN THERE IS MY WIFE, SHE'S STANDING HERE DURING THIS PHOTO. AND THERE SHE IS WITH THE LIGHT, WITH OUR DRIVEWAY LIGHT ON. THAT'S ONE ISSUE THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND THE OTHER IS THE NUANCE OF ROWLETT POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN DISPATCHED OVER 100 TIMES IN THE LAST NINE YEARS ABOUT THE BACK DOOR THAT CONSTANTLY GOES INTO ALARM. THE WORKERS OPEN THE ALARM AND PROP IT OPEN AND SLOW BEEP TO CONSTANT PIERCING NOISE, IT'S ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT AND 5 O'CLOCK AND OUTSIDE AND HEAR THIS LOUD PIERCING ALARM THAT KEEPS GOING OFF CONTINUOUSLY. I CALLED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THEY LOOKED INTO IT, IT'S A LIFE SAVING ISSUE FOR ELDERLY INDIVIDUALS WHO LIVE THERE. BUT NOBODY EVER RESPONDS TO IT. AND THE POOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, GOD BLESS THEM AND THEY CONSTANTLY HEAR IT ALL THE TIME. HAS TO BE TORTURE, I PLED WITH POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND NOW PLEADING WITH [00:05:03] THE COUNCIL. WE HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 16 YEARS AND PAID OFF OUR HOME, TAXPAYERS AND DESERVE PEACE AND AS OF JANUARY WE HAVE LIGHT ISSUES THAT LOOKS LIKE A SPACESHIP COMING THROUGH MY BEDROOM WINDOW. I UNDERSTAND SECURITY LIGHTING BUT THIS IS TOO MUCH, ALL I HAVE. >> THANK YOU SIR. >> SORRY, THE JUMP DRIVE YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING-- NO, IT'S A MESS. SOMEBODY NEEDS TO LOOK AT IT. THE WORKERS THERE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE, I'M TELLING YA, IT'S HORRIBLE. YOU LOOK BEHIND THE BUILDING OF BEACON HARBOR, YOU WILL SEE TRASH AND CHAIRS AND BEDS THAT PEOPLE PASS AWAY IN AND SHOVEL OVER TO THE TREES, IT'S DISGUSTING AND THE CITY NEEDS TO TAKE A STRONG LOOK AT THAT. >> THANK YOU SIR. ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO [3.A. Receive and discuss recommendations for award recipients of the Cultural Arts Grant and the Gary Alexander Arts in Education Grant.] WISHES TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? SEEING NONE, WORK ON TO WORK SESSION ITEMS. 3A, RECEIVE AND DISCUSS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR AWARD RECIPIENTS OF CULTURAL ARTS GRANT AND GARY ALEXANDER ARTS IN EDUCATION GRANT. LAURA TURNER. >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, LAURA TURNER, LIBRARY SERVICES DIRECTOR AND STAFF LIAISON FOR THE ARTS AND HUMANITY COMMISSION AND WITH ME STELLA WRIGHT AND MS. HUNTER. EACH YEAR THE COMMISSION AWARDS GRANTS TO AWARD THE ACTIVITIES OF ROWLETT AND PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SCHOOLS IN THE CITY OF ROWLETT AND HERE TO PRESENT THE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THIS YEAR'S GRANT RECIPIENTS. EIGHT REQUESTS FROM CULTURAL ARTS GROUP TOTALING $12,280. UNFORTUNATELY THE COMMISSION BUDGETED--SORRY, HOLD ON, I WENT TOO FAR. THE COMMISSION HAD BUDGETED FOR $3,000 FOR THESE GROUPS. AND SO THEY HAD TO MAKE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS REGARDING WHO GOT MONEY FOR WHICH GROUP AND EVERYTHING. SO THEY ATTEMPTED TO IDENTIFY THE GROUPS THAT THEY FELT WOULD HAVE THE LARGEST IMPACT. AND SO HEART FOR PATRIOTS, AND RECOMMENDING $150 FOR THEM. ARTIST ROWLETT TEXAS $150. AND ROWLETT QUILTERS GUILD, AND 700 GRANT. AND THE ROWLETT SUMMER MUSICAL RECOMMENDING A $2,000 GRANT. THERE IS ALSO ARTS AND EDUCATION GRANTS. GARY ALEXANDER WAS A COMMISSION MEMBER WHO WAS REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR GRANT, ARTS AND EDUCATION GRANTS. AND HE UNFORTUNATELY SUCCUMBED TO CANCER WHILE SERVING ON THE COMMISSION. SO THE COMMISSION FELT THEY WANTED TO NAME THIS GRANT IN HONOR OF HIM, WHY IT'S CALLED THE GARY ALEXANDER ARTS AND EDUCATION GRANT. THEY HAD FOUR REQUESTS FROM SCHOOLS WITH FUNDING $12,060. THE AACA HAD BUDGETED TO ALLOCATE $5,000 FOR GRANTS. AGAIN TOUGH DECISIONS BEING MADE. THE ROWLETT HIGH SCHOOL ART DEPARTMENT, AACA IS RECOMMENDING $1142. AND THEATER DEPARTMENT, 500 GRANT. STEPHENS ELEMENTARY MUSIC DEPARTMENT, 1,000. AND ART DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDING $1,358 GRANT. SO WITH YOUR APPROVAL, IF THIS IS APPROVED TOMORROW AT THE COUNCIL MEETING, THEN STAFF WILL OBTAIN NECESSARY DOCUMENTS AND LENDING AGREEMENTS TO PROVIDE THE REQUESTED FUNDING. ANY QUESTIONS? >> I HAD A QUESTION REAL QUICK. SO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS ANOTHER TAX ASSESSING ENTITY, WHY ARE THEY REQUESTING MONEY FROM US FOR GRANTS WHEN THEY ARE GETTING A LOT OF TAXPAYER MONEY AS WELL? >> SO THEY, THE SCHOOLS, IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. SCH SCHOOLS, TEACHERS AND THE FEEDBACK THEY STILL HAVE NEEDS. EVEN THOUGH THERE IS THAT FUNDING. THE FUNDING FROM THE SCHOOLS DOESN'T COVER ALL OF THEIR NE [00:10:08] NEEDS. THE ROWLETT ART DEPARTMENT IT'S PRINTER CARD --CARTRIDGES TO PRINT THEIR ART. AND THEATER DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKE EXTRA FUNDING IN ADDITION TO THE SCHOOL FUNDING TO HAVE A PRODUCTION COME FROM AWAY AT THE SCHOOL. STEPHENS ELEMENTARY REQUESTING FUNDING FOR CONDENSER MICROPHONES AND CABLES. AND THEN THE STEPHENS ELEMENTARY ART DEPARTMENT WERE WANTING EQUIPMENT TO DISPLAY STUDENT ART IN THE HALLWAYS. THIS IS A GRANT THAT THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES COMMISSION HAS PROVIDED FOR SCHOOLS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. AS LONG AS I HAVE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION WHICH I STARTED THAT IN 2020. I AM NOT SURE HOW LONG THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THE ARTS AND EDUCATION GRANTS. SOMETHING THEY WANTED TO HELP SUPPORT STUDENT ART, HELP SUPPORT THE SCHOOLS. BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT THE SCHOOLS HAD A NEED FOR THAT. >> MY QUESTION FOR CITY ATTORNEY AND WONDERED IF LEGAL TO TAKE TAXPAYER MONEY FROM-- >> FROM TAXPAYERS AND GIVE TO ANOTHER ENTITY FROM TAXPAYERS. >> IT IS, AND WE DO IT THROUGH A FUNDING AGREEMENT, WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH THE PURPOSE, THE MONEY HAS TO BE USED FOR. AS SOON AS USED FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE AND WE HAVE TO BUILD IN SAFEGUARDS, WE BUILD IN PERFORMANCE METRICS AND WE CAPTURE PROVISIONS IN THE EVENT NOT USED AS SUPPOSED TO. IT DOESN'T MATTER, IT CAN BE A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY, PRIVATE ENTITY, NONPROFIT. >> I MEAN I THINK TOO JONATHAN GRABBED WHAT I THOUGHT, AND THOUGHT THE SAME THING AND CURIOUS WHY THE SCHOOL DIDN'T JUST FUND THE NECESSARY THINGS THAT THEY NEEDED IN THE SCHOOLS WITH THE TAXPAYER MONEY. >> KIND OF WHAT I WAS THINKING, WE ARE REQUIRED A BUDGET EVERY YEAR AND [INAUDIBLE] VARIOUS SCHOOLS BUDGET FOR NECESSARY ITEMS LIKE CARTRIDGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. >> LAST YEAR, I GUESS IT DIDN'T FLAG ANYTHING IN MY BRAIN LAST YEAR. PASSED A 50 MILLION DOLLAR BOND? >> THAT WAS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. >> I REALIZE THAT BUT STILL--OH, MAN, I THINK WE PAY MORE IN SCHOOL DISTRICT TAX THAN PROPERTY TAX. I HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK TO SEE DALLAS COUNTY OR GISD WHO GOT MORE BUT I WANT TO SAY GISD GETS MORE MONEY THAN DALLAS COUNTY. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT PORTION. THE OTHER STUFF LOOKS GREAT. THE GISD STUFF I KIND OF FEEL THEY SHOULD BUDGET FOR IT. >> THE ESTABLISHING ORDINANCE SAYS THAT ON CITY COUNCIL ON AWARD RELATED TO THE ARTS. HISTORICALLY A FEW YEARS AGO AND PRIOR, THOSE GRANTS AWARDED BY THE COMMISSION. NEVER CAME TO THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. I'M SURE THAT LAURA REMEMBERS THAT WHY IT CAME UP LAST YEAR AND CAUGHT AND OH, THIS SHOULD BE GOING TO THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. THE COMMISSION SHOULD BE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS. I WILL SAY THAT THE STRUCTURE IS OPEN TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND PRIVATE SCHOOLS. PRIVATE SCHOOLS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AS ROCKWELL ISD AND MY EXPERIENCE ON THE COMMISSION DIFFICULT TIME TO GET PEOPLE TO APPLY. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT STEPHENS APPLIED? >> I THINK THAT THE MUSIC DEPARTMENT APPLIED LAST YEAR. >> AND STEADHAM APPLIED AND SHRADY, IT'S HIT-OR-MISS, ROWLETT IS CONSISTENT TO APPLY AND ASK FOR A LOT, MR. HOLDEN [00:15:07] DOES INCREDIBLE STUFF. AND ULTIMATELY COMES DOWN TO THE FUNDING FOR FINE ARTS IN THE DISTRICT IS NEVER ENOUGH. I CAN TELL YOU AS A BOOSTER DAD THERE IS NEVER ENOUGH FUNDING. WE CHARGE FEES TO THE KIDS AND IN THIS DISTRICT SEEMS LOOK A LOT. A COUPLE OF HUNDRED BUCKS PER KID THAT WE CHARGE A BAND FEE VERSUS FLOWER MOUND AND OTHER SCHOOLS AND HAVE BANDS THAT PUT ON PERFORMANCE AND TO THE NATIONALS AND CHARGING 800-900 BUCKS. AND EVEN WITH THE FUNDING FROM THE DISTRICT NEVER ENOUGH TO FULFILL FOR FINE ARTS. PERHAPS WHY THIS PROGRAM INITIATED. AND DESIGNED TO BE FOR NEW PROGRAMS AND EXISTING PROGRAMS. WHY THERE IS ALWAYS I THINK A QUESTION THAT GOES AROUND, WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THE FUNDS AND THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT AS PART OF THEIR APPLICATION. THAT IDENTIFIES WHERE THE FUNDING GOES, WHETHER FOR SOMETHING NEW OR EXISTING. JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND, JUST KIND OF MY EXPERIENCE ON HOW WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS IN THE PAST. >> I WAS GOING TO ASK, YOU REMEMBER HOW MUCH IT WAS LAST YEAR FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT WE GAVE? >> I BELIEVE THEY BUDGETED 5,000 LAST YEAR. >> WELL, IF THIS HAS BEEN A BUDGETED ITEM THAT THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES HAS HAVE HAD FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, I WOULD SAY CERTAINLY I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF FUNDING. BUT THIS--BECAUSE NO ONE HAS BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE. IF SOMETHING THAT THE NEXT COUNCIL WANTS TO TAKE UP. THAT'S UP TO THE NEXT COUNCIL. BUT CERTAINLY I FEEL LIKE IF THIS HAS BEEN AN ESTABLISHED PROGRAM TO SAY, WELL I DON'T LIKE THAT. AND TAKE IT AWAY. THAT SEEMS UNREASONABLE TO ME. >> YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A VALID POINT. THESE FUNDS COME FROM THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES COMMISSION OPERATING BUDGET THAT WE SET FOR THE LAST FISCAL BUDGET CYCLE. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT THE PROGRAM OPENED UP ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND SAID THIS MUCH FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR THIS PROGRAM. SEEMS LIKE A RUG PULL TO SAY OH, NO WE'RE NOT GOING DO THAT. AND HAPPY TO LOOK FOR THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE BUT FOR THIS CYCLE WE MADE A COMMITMENT TO GO DOWN THIS ROAD. >> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS, I ENJOY WATCHING TV AND LISTEN TO THE RADIO ALL THE TIME. OUR KIDS, THIS IS WHERE THEY GET THE EDUCATION AND THE DESIRE AND THE EXPOSURE TO HUMANITIES THAT TURN THEM INTO ACTORS AND DIRECTORS AND SONGWRITERS AND ARTISTS. SO I REALLY FEEL THAT'S--I THINK THAT IS, MAYBE NOT EVERYONE BUT THAT CERTAINLY HAS ENRICHED MY LIFE IN MANY WAYS. I WOULD ALWAYS BE IN FAVOR OF $5,000 EDUCATION GRANT FOR OUR SCHOOLS. >> CURIOSITY, ON THE SOUTH GARLAND HIGH SCHOOL AND NORTH GARLAND HIGH SCHOOL THAT DO I GET FUNDING FROM GARLAND AND OTHER CITIES OR WE'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT FUNDS THIS DEPARTMENT IN ROWLETT. WHICH I WANT THE MONEY TO STAY IN ROWLETT. JUST CURIOUS, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY KNOW ABOUT IT, AND DR. LOPEZ AND THEY KNOW THAT WE ARE FUNDING SOME STUFF. I THINK THAT $5,000 IS NOT MUCH MONEY, I AGREE WITH THAT AND AS OUR TAXES WENT UP AND PAID FOR STUFF THAT THEY COULD HAVE PAID EASILY TO GIVE TO THE DEPARTMENTS. IT'S NORTH GARLAND AND SOUTH GARLAND AND NIEMAN FOREST. ARE THEY SUFFERING? >> I'M NOT SURE IF IT GOES TO THAT LEVEL BUT THE PRINCIPALS HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON THE APPLICATION AS WELL. THE PRINCIPAL OF EACH SCHOOL APPLYING. >> ALL RIGHT, I THINK MAYBE YOU KIND OF ADDRESSED THIS, BUT LOOKING AT THIS. WE HAVE AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL GETTING 3,358 OUT OF THE 5,000, WHICH IS A LARGE PERCENTAGE. GOING TO JUST ONE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. LISTENING TO YOU IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT IS MORE A FUNCTION OF THE PROCESS THAT OTHER GROUPS AREN'T ASKING FOR THE MONEY. I LOOK AT THAT-- >> YOU CAN GO BACK AND ROWLETT HIGH SCHOOL ASKED FOR THE FULL AMOUNT, $5,000. IT'S ALL ABOUT HOW THE COMMISSION DELIBERATES. >> STILL THE POINT BEING THAT WE [00:20:01] HAVE TWO ENTITIES THAT ARE EVEN ASKING FOR MONEY. >> SO E-MAILS WERE SENT TO ALL SCHOOLS ADVERTISING. E-MAILS WERE ALSO SENT TO PREVIOUS GRANT RECIPIENTS TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE AWARE OF THIS. AND WE DID ADVERTISING ON SOCIAL MEDIA, WE HAD A FLYER AT THE LIBRARY. NOT SURE HOW ELSE TO GET TO THE WORD TO SCHOOLS ABOUT FUNDING. BUT WE USED PRETTY MUCH THE SAME ADVERTISING AVENUES THAT WE HAVE USED IN PREVIOUS YEARS. LAST YEAR WE DID HAVE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS APPLYING. I'M NOT SURE WHY WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MANY APPLYING THIS YEAR. I REALLY COULDN'T TELL YOU WHY LAST YEAR WAS MORE. AND THIS YEAR IT WAS DIFFERENT. BUT WE TRIED TO MAKE THE SAME EFFORT THAT WE DID LAST YEAR IN MAKING SURE THAT THE SCHOOLS, THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS WERE AWARE OF THIS. AND THAT THEY WERE CONTACTED. >> THE ONLY THING TOO, KIND OF ECHOING WHAT COUNCILMEMBER BOWER SAID, IN THIS CASE WE BUDGETED FOR IT AND TO USE AND LOSE IT AND HATE JULY THEY DIDN'T USE IT. THAT'S MY THOUGHTS. >> I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF PULLING THE RUG OUT FROM UNDERNEATH THEM BUT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT FOR FUTURE STUFF. >> ANY MORE QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, THIS WILL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR TOMORROW, IT IS I BELIEVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM, ANYONE THAT WANTS TO PULL FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION YOU CAN MAKE THAT REQUEST WHEN YOU GET TO THAT POINT IN TODAY'S MEETING. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, LOOKING ON THE CULTURAL WEBSITE FOR GARLAND, I DON'T SEE THAT THEY DO AND HAVE A STRONG PARTNERSHIP WITH GISD AND HOST THE ART COMPETITION AT PAT [INAUDIBLE] CENTER, AND I SEE THAT. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT GRANTS. THERE ARE A FEW GRANTS THEY PROVIDE AND DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO, LOOKING AT THE WEBSITE, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION. GOOD QUESTION THOUGH. COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU LAUREN, AND THANK YOU ARTS AND HUMANITIES COMMISSION THIS EVENING. [3.B. Receive and discuss a proposed Public Art Policy.] >> ONE MORE. >> 3B, RECEIVE AND DISCUSS A PROPOSED PUBLIC ART POLICY. >> SO HOW DID WE GET HERE? SO BACK IN 2015, THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES COMMISSION APPROACHED COUNCIL ABOUT STARTING A PUBLIC ART PROGRAM. FUNDING FOR THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM STARTED IN 2016. THEY HAVE A BALANCE IN THEIR PUBLIC ART FUND OF $127,528. THE CITY HAS SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED LANDMARK PIECES INCLUDING THE SPIRIT OF ROWLETT THAT IS AT SHRADY BLUE BONNET PARK AND BEST OF US TAKEN BY SURPRISE. AND SPARKLE AND RESPONDER AT FIRE STATIONS. AND THROUGH THE DARKEST VALLEY, GOODNESS AND MERCY WILL FOLLOW AT FIRE STATION TWO. AND SYNERGY IS AT VETERAN'S PARK. SO THE COMMISSION IS AT THE POINT WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THEIR PUBLIC ART INSTALLATIONS, ESPECIALLY DOWNTOWN. THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSIONS THAT THERE IS NOT REALLY AS FAR AS THEY CAN SEE A PATH FORWARD FOR THIS IS HOW WE NEED TO DO IT. THIS IS HOW WE SHOULD DO IT. SO WE, YOU KNOW WITH THE COMMISSION, WE SAW THERE IS FUNDING BUT ISN'T REALLY A STRATEGY OF HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. THERE WAS A POLICY--THERE IS A POLICY FOR ACCEPTING DONATIONS. BECAUSE THE CITY STARTED GETTING DONATIONS AS SOME OF ITS EARLY, TWO OF THE PIECES WERE ACTUALLY DONATIONS THAT ARE AT THE FIRE STATIONS. AND YOU KNOW THE COMMISSION HAS A PASSION FOR PUBLIC ART BUT NOT REALLY A CLEAR PATH FORWARD. AND SO TO ADDRESS THIS STAFF LOOKED AT GETTING A PUBLIC ART POLICY THAT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, GIVES EVERYBODY CLEAR DIRECTION. AND WHAT IS GOING ON. THIS DRAFT WAS PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION AND NOW WE'RE PRESENTING IT TO YOU. THE POLICY LIKE VISION OF THE [00:25:10] PUBLIC ART PROGRAM AND THE SCOPE, WHAT IT WILL COVER, WHAT IT WON'T COVER. AND PLEASE STOP ME AT ANY POINT IF THINGS DON'T MAKE SENSE. IT DEFINES THOSE THINGS SO THAT EVERYBODY IS CLEAR WHAT THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. THE POLICY DEFINES THE DIFFERENT PROJECT TYPES. WHETHER A CAPITAL PROJECT INCORPORATED INTO NEW INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. WHETHER IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT PARTICULARLY TO HIGHLIGHT, CELEBRATE OR COMMEMORATE A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY. WHETHER IT'S A SIGNATURE PROJECT THAT IS ROWLETT FOCUSED THING WITH THE FEEL OF ROWLETT. OR DEVELOPMENT PROJECT OR PRIVATE OR PUBLIC DEVELOPMENT OR REVITALIZATION PROJECT OR PART OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION ASSETS. IN ADDITION TO ESTABLISHING THE PROJECT TYPES THE POLICY ALSO DEFINES THAT EVERY PUBLIC ART PROJECT WOULD HAVE A PROJECT PROPOSAL. THIS PROJECT PROPOSAL WOULD ESTABLISH THE LOCATION FOR THE PUBLIC ART. THE SETTING. WHETHER THERE IS LIGHTING OR LANDSCAPING REQUIRED. THE GOALS AND VISION FOR THE PIECE OF PUBLIC ART. AS WELL AS BUDGET AND THE FUNDING SOURCE. A SCHEDULE OF WHEN THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN. IDENTIFYING THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED IN BEING AFFECTED BY THIS, SUPPORTING IT. AS WELL AS IDENTIFYING THE MAINTENANCE THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THE PROJECT. THE POLICY ALSO DEFINES THAT EACH PROJECT WOULD HAVE AN ARTIST SELECTION PANEL. IT SETS WHAT THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THIS ARTIST SELECTION PANEL WOULD BE. IT SETS WHO WOULD BE ON THE PANEL. AND THEN HOW THEY WOULD BE SELECTING THINGS. AND THE PROCESS INVOLVED THERE. IT ESTABLISHES A PUBLIC ART WORK FLOW. EACH PROJECT IS STARTED BY AN INITIATIVE, IN RESPONSE, IT CAN BE AN AACH BASED INITIATIVE LIKE THE COMMISSION THEMSELVES SAY HEY WE NEED ART IN THIS LOCATION. OR A CITIZEN APPROACHING THE AAHC, OR IF IT IS CITY PERSONNEL WHO WANT TO INITIATE AND START THIS PROJECT. ALL OF THE PROJECT PROPOSALS, THE PROJECT PROPOSAL SUBMISSIONS IS THE NEXT STEP IN THAT, THAT WOULD BE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY AND TO THE COMMISSION ITSELF. IF IT IS--IF THE CITY DECIDES IT IS A PROJECT THAT CAN BE FEASIBLY PUT IN A PLACE AND PURSUED AND AN ARTIST COMMISSION PANEL ASSEMBLED. AND EACH PROJECT ASSIGNED A PROJECT MANAGER, THAT IS SOMEONE FROM THE CITY TO MANAGE THIS PUBLIC ART, THIS WORK FLOW, ASSEMBLE THE ARTIST SELECTION PANEL. ONCE THE PANEL IS ASSEMBLED AND WE KNOW WHO IS GOING TO BE EVALUATING THE APPLICATIONS FOR THE ART. THERE WOULD BE A CALL FOR ARTISTS OR ENTRIES. WHICH WOULD BE EITHER RFP, OR RFQ THAT IS GOING OUT AND SAYING HEY WE NEED THIS ART. AND GETTING THE APPLICANTS TO GIVE THEIR IDEAS. THE ARTIST SELECTION PANEL WOULD REVIEW ALL OF THE SUBMISSIONS COLLECTED. AND SELECT AND RECOMMEND, USUALLY ONE FINALIST, MAYBE TIMES THEY HAVE MORE THAN ONE. IF IT'S A LARGE PROJECT OR SOMETHING THAT THEY WANTED, IF THEY WANTED TO PRESENT MANY OPTIONS FOR COUNCIL AND NOT JUST ONE RECOMMENDATION. THEN A CONTRACT WOULD BE ADMINISTERED. THIS CONTRACT OF COURSE WOULD FOLLOW PURCHASING GUIDELINES AND HAVE ALL THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS TO KEEP THE CITY WITHIN COMPLIANCE. AND THEN THE ART WOULD BE CREATED. THE POLICY DEFINES THE DIFFERENT SELECTION APPROACHES THAT MAY BE [00:30:03] UTILIZED TO GET ART. OPEN COMPETITION. THIS IS FOR EXAMPLE, WHENEVER THE COMMISSION HAS THE SCULPTURE AT FIRE STATION 2. THEY HAD A CALL TO ARTISTS. THEY BASICALLY PUT IT OUT THERE NATIONWIDE. HEY, WE ARE LOOKING FOR ARTISTS TO APPLY TO MAKE ART AT THIS FIRE STATION. HERE'S THE REQUIREMENTS, IT HAS TO BE REALISTIC, THE COMMISSION DECIDED THEY WANTED IT TO KIND COMMEMORATE 9/11 AND HAD REQUIREMENTS OF THAT. AND EVERYBODY IN AMERICA, WE ADVERTISED THROUGH VARIOUS PLACES. THEY APPLIED. SO THAT WOULD BE THE OPEN COMPETITION. A LIMITED OR INVITATION COMPETITION, SAY WE WERE DOING PIECE OF ART AT VETERAN'S PARK AND THE COMMISSION WANTED THE ARTIST TO BE A VETERAN. SO MAYBE IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO ONLY VETERANS ARTISTS CAN APPLY. OR INVITATION COMPETITION. IF THERE WERE 20 VETERAN ARTISTS THAT THE COMMISSION WERE AWARE OF. AND THEY WANTED THOSE 20 VETERAN ARTISTS TO APPLY TO DO ART WITH US. THAT WOULD BE AN INVITATION COMPETITION. DIRECT SELECTION. THAT IS FOR EXAMPLE, WHENEVER THE COMMISSION WORKED WITH SCULPTURE NICK MOLIQ FOR THIS SCULPTURE AT FIRE STATION 3 AND DECIDED TO WORK WITH HIM AND TELL HIM WHAT THEY WANTED FOR THAT PIECE OF ART. THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF DIRECT SELECTION. DIRECT PURCHASE. AN EXAMPLE OF THAT WHEN THE COMMISSION INSTALLED SYNERGY AT VETERAN'S PARK, THE BRONZE OF DIFFERENT HANDS AND ARMS OF DIFFERENT SERVICES. THEY KNEW THEY WANTED THAT PIECE, IT WAS MADE. THEY JUST DID THE DIRECT PURCHASE OF THAT. THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS THE COMMISSION WILL BE COLLECTING NAMES OF ARTISTS. AND WILL BUILD KIND OF NATURALLY AN ARTIST REGISTRY AND THAT MAY BE ONE OF THE SELECTIONS AS WELL, APPROACHES. LOOKING AT THE REGISTRY AND INVITING THOSE PEOPLE ON THE REGISTRY TO DO THE ART. SELECTION CRITERIA, OF COURSE THE ART IT HAS TO BE GOOD. EXCELLENCE, APPROPRIATENESS. MAINTENANCE. WE DON'T WANT SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE A BURDEN TO MAINTAIN. WE WANT IT GOOD DESIGN. WE WANT IT TO BE SAFE AND NOT A HAZARD TO OUR PUBLIC. AND ARTISTIC DIVERSITY. THAT IS MORE FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT NOW WE DO HAVE A LOT OF THE KIND OF SWIRLY METAL SCULPTURES FROM NICK MOLIQ, AND MAYBE HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS THAN JUST ABSTRACT. DIFFERENT KINDS. ABSTRACT, MURALISTIC AND DIFFERENT KINDS, NOT ALL THE SAME FLAVOR OF ART. THE COMMISSION OR THE ART POLICY ALSO ADDRESSES SOME OF THE EXEMPTIONS FOR THIS POLICY. THINGS WHERE THE PUBLIC IS NOT GOING TO GET INVOLVED AND NOT GOING TO BE THIS WHOLE PROCESS. THAT WOULD BE REPAIRS TO EXISTING PUBLIC ART. TEMPORARY THINGS. IF SOMETHING WAS GOING TO BE AROUND VERY BRIEFLY. FOR EXAMPLE, OUT IN THE LOBBY HERE ARTIST ROUND TEXAS HAS PAINTINGS THAT THEY PUT UP AND SWAP OUT. THAT WOULD NOT BE PART OF THIS POLICY WHERE WE ALL EVALUATE WHERE ARTISTS AROUND TEXAS PUT UP IN THE LOBBY NEXT. DECORATION OR BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS. WHEN WE HAVE SCARE CROWS DOWNTOWN AND CHRISTMAS TREES OR STUFF, THAT DIDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS POLICY PROCESS. IF WE DID THINGS WHERE IT WAS CHALK ART. WE HAD A WEEKEND THAT PEOPLE DO CHALK ART. AND NOT HAVE THE CITIZENS APPROVE THE DESIGNS OF KIDS' CHART ART. AND TEMPORARY STREET MURAL WOULDN'T GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND LIGHT SIGNS. AND WAY FINDING SIGNS FOR CENTRAL PARKS. AND WRAPS, THE COMMISSION IS WANTING TO GET IN VINYL WRAPS ON UTILITY BOXES. THAT WOULDN'T GO THROUGH THIS LONG PROCESS, JUST THEM COMING TO COUNCIL, GOING, HEY WE WANT TO PUT THESE DESIGNS ON THESE PUBLIC BOXES. RIGHT NOW IT DOES SAY DUMPSTERS. CITIZENS OR BUSINESSES DO RENT [00:35:05] THE DUMPSTERS FROM REPUBLIC. BUT THE ENCLOSURES THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THAT IS TALKING ABOUT. IF A THING THAT WE WERE DOING ART ON ENCLOSURES OF DUMPSTERS. AND EXISTING ART, ONCE THIS POLICY IS ACCEPTED WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO GO BACK AND THAT EVERYTHING ESTABLISHED IS APPROVED. IT WILL BE ALREADY ACCEPTED. AND THEN MAINTENANCE. THE CITY OF ROWLETT WILL MAINTAIN THE PUBLIC ART WORK. >> YOU HAVE ANY IDEA SAY LAST YEAR WHAT HAS BEEN SPENT ON MAINTENANCE FOR PARTICULARLY THE BIG STEEL STRUCTURES WE HAVE ALL AROUND? >> WE'VE HAD SOME STALLS OF OUR MAINTENANCE, RIGHT NOW I AM WORKING WITH FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS AT FIRE STATION 1 THERE IS SPARKLE, THE ORANGE SWIRLY THING. IT'S VERY FADED. IT HAS SOME RUST ALSO. I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE ARTISTS GALLERY, ON GETTING THEM TO COME OUT, LOOK AT IT. GIVE US A PRICE QUOTE FOR THAT SO WE CAN ACTUALLY GET REPAIR. GET IT REPOWDER COATED. I BELIEVE IT WAS THE YEAR BEFORE LAST THAT WE SPENT ABOUT 7 GRAND ON THE FIRE STATION 3, THE RED SWIRLY THING. THE POWDER COATING ON THAT WAS STARTING TO FLAKE OFF. SO THAT WE WORK WITH THE ARTIST GALLERY TO HAVE IT REMOVED. TAKEN TO THEIR PLACE, CAUSE IT HAD TO BE REPOWER COATED. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE IN THE FIELD, IT HAS TO DONE IN THEIR SPECIAL OVENS. I AM WORKING ON GETTING A QUOTE FROM A THIRD PARTY ON WHAT IT WOULD COST TO ADDRESS EACH PIECE OF ART EVERY YEAR. IN THE PAST COUNCIL HAS ALLOCATED $10,000 A YEAR FOR MAINTENANCE. FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE--FROM QUOTES I HAVE GOTTEN BEFORE, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS GOING TO BE ENOUGH. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND ALL OF YOU ON GETTING A SCHEDULE OF ROUTINE MAINTENANCE AND THEN FINDING OUT ARE THERE OTHER WAYS ALSO TO DO ANYTHING IN-HOUSE. OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDED GUIDELINES BUT THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. >> BECAUSE IT SAYS, CITY OF ROWLETT WILL MAINTAIN PUBLIC ART WORK. I WILL ASSUME AND PARTICULARLY TO THE BIG STEEL SWIRLY STATUES THAT THE ARTIST MAINTAIN CONTROL. I GUESS WHAT I AM ASKING, COULD WE TAKE IT TO A POWDER COAT PLACE AND HAVE THEM POWDER COAT IT. OR DOES THE ARTIST MAINTAIN CONTROL OF THE COLOR, IS THAT DISCUSSED? >> SO WE DID--THERE'S THE GIANT SCULPTURE THAT IS AT BLUE BONNET PARK, SPIRIT OF ROWLETT THAT HAS HAD RESTORATION TO IT. INITIAL RESTORATION WE REACHED OUT TO THE ARTIST. AND WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE ARTIST ON THAT. WE DIDN'T REALLY MAKE PROGRESS ON THAT. INVOLVED WITH THAT.RD PARTY - AND SO IT ISN'T A MATTER OF THE ARTIST IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN DO REPAIRS. >> WE DON'T HAVE A LEGAL REQUIREMENT TO HAVE THE ARTIST BE INVOLVED IN A RESTORATION OF THESE TYPES? >> AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE DO NOT HAVE A LEGAL REQUIREMENT FOR THAT. WE HAVE GONE BACK TO THEM, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ORANGE ONE AT FIRE STATION 1, WE APPROACHED THEM FIRST. BECAUSE IT WAS MOSTLY OUT OF COMMON COURTESY, THIS IS YOUR ART, WE WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO FIX IT. >> OKAY. >> I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF WE HAVE ANY CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION TO GO TO THE ARTIST BUT PROBABLY THE BEST PLACE TO GO FIRST. >> YEAH. >> IT'S PART OF THE POLICY THAT WE CERTAINLY RECOMMEND THAT WHEN WE ACQUIRE ART WE ACQUIRE FULL CONTROL. USUALLY SOME PROVISION OF THE ARTIST MAY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LICENSE THE IMAGE IN THAT WAY. BUT PART OF THEIR ACQUISITION PROCESS. >> OKAY. >> AND THEN DONATIONS AND DX [00:40:09] SESSIONS. AS I WAS SAYING EARLIER, THE CITY ALREADY HAS A DONATION POLICY IN PLACE. WHICH IS KIND OF LIKE THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, YOU KNOW. THE DONATION POLICY IN PLACE NOW IS VERY THOROUGH. AND IN FACT IT DUPLICATES A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR ART PURCHASES. SO WHAT WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING THAT THIS POLICY WOULD REPLACE THE DONATION POLICY THAT'S CURRENTLY IN EFFECT. AND THEN WHAT WOULD HAPPEN, ANY FUTURE DONATIONS, IT WOULD JUST GO THROUGH THIS POLICY. WHICH AS FAR AS ACCEPTING DONATIONS THE PROPOSAL IT WOULD SKIP STEPS 5-7. IN THE PROCESS. WHICH 5-7 IS THE RFP, THE CALL AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT IT WOULD HAVE THE PROJECT PROPOSAL, THE PROJECT MANAGER AND THE CITY ACCEPTING OR NOT ACCEPTING THE DONATION. AND THEN--AND THE CITY OF COURSE WOULD ALSO SAY YEA OR NAY ON THE DONATION. SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S A DONATION AND SOMEONE WANTED TO DONATE A LIFE SIZED BEE WITH A LADY ON IT AND BECAUSE WE'RE A BEE CITY AND WE DECIDED THAT IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE. >> I LIKE THAT. >> SHE'S NAKED. >> BEHAVE. >> AND THE CITY SAY JUST BECAUSE IT'S A DONATION DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF IT. EXCEPTIONS TO THE REVIEW PROCESS FOR DONATIONS. IF THERE IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, YOU KNOW IF SOMEBODY IS GIVING US ART BECAUSE THEY WANT SOMETHING IN RETURN, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GO THERE. AND THEN GIFTS OF STATE, FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS WERE GIVING US A DONATION IT WOULD--IT MAY BE ACCEPTED BY THE MAYOR, CITY MANAGER ON BEHALF OF CITY OF ROWLETT AND GO THROUGH THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT. D-ACCESSION IS THE PROCESS OF GETTING RID OF ART. NOT SOMETHING THAT WE SET OUT TO DO, BUT WE WANTED IT IN THE POLICY IN CASE IT WAS NEEDED. THE DEACCESSION WOULD HAPPEN IF THE ART WAS DAMAGED AND COULDN'T BE REPAIRED. IF IT WAS NO LONGER APPROPRIATE, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE ARE A LOT OF CITIES, A LOT OF PLACES THAT MAYBE HAVE A CESAR CHAVEZ STATUE THAT DON'T BELIEVE NEEDS TO ON DISPLAY AND THAT COULD BE DEASCENSIONING THIS IS NOT APPROPRIATE OF TO HAVE. AND REMEMBER ONE TIME BILL COSBY WAS POPULAR AND I WATCHED FAT ALBERT EVERY SATURDAY. IF WE HAD A SCULPTURE OF BILL COSBY IN THE LIBRARY AND HAVE THAT DEASCENSIONED. AND THE MANAGER OF GETTING RID OF THINGS AND THE SALE, REINSTALLATION AND TRANSFER TO ANOTHER INSTITUTION. AND HOW THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED. ARE THERE ANY MODIFICATIONS OR ADDITIONS OR QUESTIONS? THIS OF COURSE WOULD BE, I'M WORKING WITH VICTORIA, MAKING SURE THAT IT HAS THE APPROPRIATE LEGAL LANGUAGE AND EVERYTHING. MOSTLY WHAT WE NEED FROM ALL OF YOU TONIGHT, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THIS THAT GIVES YOU HEART BURN OR KEEP YOU UP AT NIGHT OR MAKE PEOPLE MAD AT YOU, SOME OF THAT YOU CAN'T-- >> LAURA, DOES THIS CONTEMPLATE THE POSSIBILITY THAT SOMEONE MIGHT--THAT WE MIGHT RENT OR LEASE A PIECE OF ART FOR A TIME AND/OR HAVE ONE THAT IS TAKEN OUT ON LOAN FROM ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY? >> IT DOES NOT ADDRESS LOANING THINGS TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. BUT I BELIEVE IT DOES ADDRESS--- >> LOANS TO THE CITY MAYBE OR [00:45:02] JUST GENERALLY FOLLOW THE SAME PROCESS? >> IT ADDRESSES TEMPORARY THINGS BUT DOESN'T REALLY ADDRESS THE PROCESS FOR HOW WE WOULD GET IT. >> TEMPORARY ITEMS ARE EXEMPTED. IF YOU BRING ON LOAN, RIGHT NOW [INAUDIBLE] READING OF THE CURRENT LANGUAGE. SAY IT WOULD BE TEMPORARY INSTALLATION. WE DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF DEFINING HOW YOU GO THROUGH AN ART LOAN OR RENT PROGRAM. GENERALLY HAVE SEEN THOSE. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING, WE HAVE TO WORK IT ON. >> YEAH, WE ARE CLOSER TO THE FINISH LINE WITH THE POLICY THAN WE HAVE BEEN SINCE I WAS A PART OF THIS AT ALL. EXCITED TO SEE THAT. TAKE YOU BACK 12 YEARS AGO NOW AND THE ARTS AND HUMANITY COMMISSION CAME IN AND GAVE A PROPOSAL TO THE MAYOR AND TOLD TERRIBLE IDEA, DON'T LIKE THE WAY THAT IS. TAKE IT BACK TO THE DRAWIN BOARD, IT WAS A DISASTER. AND THE REASON PUSH BACK BECAUSE THEY HAD ASKED A STAFF MEMBER TO OB OB OBTAIN ALIGART PROGRAM AND THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS A WAREHOUSE OF ART NOT DISPLAYING. AND HAVE A LOAN AND GET A PIECE AND HAVE ON DISPLAY FOR A YEAR OR TWO. ALL OF THAT ENCOMPASSED IN ONE BIG THING. GLAD TO SEE A HIGHER LEVEL PROCESS THAT GETS US TO THE POINT THAT WE CAN PLAN FOR THIS STUFF AND EXECUTE ON IT. YOU KNOW THE PUBLIC ART BUDGET RIGHT NOW HAS 126,000 IS THAT RIGHT? >> 127. >> 127, AND THE COUNCIL IN THE PAST HAS ALLOCATED 50,000 PER YEAR, THAT'S 2-1/2 YEARS OF FUNDING THAT IS SITTING. NOW WE HAVE MADE SOME PROGRESS, THERE IS PIECES THAT ARE AT MANY OF OUR FIRE STATIONS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF NEWEST AND PIECES AROUND THE TOWN AS WELL. TWO OF THOSE DONATED BY TAMARA, THE ORANGE PIECE AND THE BLUE PIECE OVER AT STATION 4, BOTH OF THOSE DONATIONS TO THE CITY. IN FACT WHY WE HAVE A DONATION POLICY TO BEGIN WITH TO HAVE STRUCTURE OF HOW WE ACCEPT PIECES OF ART. ALL OF THAT TO SAY, I'M THRILLED, DON'T HAVE REAL RECOMMENDATIONS. I DON'T REALLY SEE A NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE LOAN PIECE, AS YOU SAID IT'S ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN THAT, AND DOESN'T GO IN THIS PROCESS IN A TYPICAL SENSE. THE ONE THING THAT I THINK PART OF THE PROCESS BECAUSE OF WHAT WE ARE DOING MAINTENANCE OBLIGATION OF THE PIECE. A MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE. WHEN THE PIECE IS TURNED OVER TO US, AND WE KNOW WHEN THE ARTIST RECOMMEND TO WAX IT AND HOW OFTEN RECOMMEND TO REFINISH IT. AND DON'T POINT SPRAYERS AT IT AND WHAT HAPPENED AT STATION 3. DON'T HAVE SPRINKLER HEADS POINTED AT IT, STUFF LIKE THAT, THE GENERAL STUFF IS PRETTY IMPORTANT. AND I WILL MENTION, OVER AT VETERAN'S PARK THE OTHER DAY AND THE PLAQUE THERE IN FRONT OF SYNERGY IS REALLY LOOSE IN THE GROUND. THE CONCRETE HAS COME OUT OF THE GROUND OR DIRT WASHED AWAY, HEADS UP. >> AND LAURA, FOR CLARITY WHEN POLICY IS PUT IN PLACE AND ADMINISTERED BY ARTS AND HUMANITY COMMISSION AS A GROUP. NOT A SUBCOMMITTEE OR AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT BRINGS IN OTHER PEOPLE, EXACTLY WHO IS GOING TO TAKE THIS AND BE THE ADMIB ADMINISTRATORS OF IT? >> SO THERE IS A SUBCOMMITTEE WITHIN THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES COMMISSION WITH PUBLIC ART, PUBLIC ART IDEAS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT I BELIEVE FROM THE WAY THE POLICY IS WORDED, THAT IT WOULD BE THE COMMISSION ITSELF. DOING THE RECOMMENDATION TO YOU, TO YOUR COUNCIL. >> THERE ISN'T AN ARTS PANEL. >> OKAY. >> BUT YOU WOULD ACTUALLY, THE ARTS COMMISSION WOULD IDENTIFY SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS TO BE PART OF THE JURY SELECTION. >> GOT IT. >> I THAT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ARTS COMMISSION, THE ARTS COMMISSION, THE FULL COMMISSION CONSIDER THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL. >> THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, I THINK YOU HAVE A FOCUS GROUP GET ALL THE T'S CROSSED AND THE I'S DOTTED AND TAKE IT TO AAC FOR APPROVAL AND BRING TO US. AND TO HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE IS IMPORTANT. >> EACH PROJECT WOULD HAVE THE ARTIST SELECTION PANEL. THE ARTIST SELECTION PANEL IS [00:50:07] RESPONSIBLE TO REVIEW THE PROPOSALS AND ARTISTS AND COMMUNITY FEEDBACK IF WARRANTED. MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES COMMISSION. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> ONLY COMMENT I WILL MAKE IS I THINK WAS 2024 I GOT A COPY OF THIS, BUT JUST A BIG LONG HEAVY, THICK, 208 PAGE MAGAZINE OF PUBLIC ART AND ITS ECONOMIC IMPACT IT COULD HAVE. TEXAS IS WOEFULLY BEHIND THE CURVE IN HOW MUCH WE ALLOCATE PER CAPITA FOR PUBLIC ART. I AM NOT SAYING THAT ROWLETT WILL CHANGE THE WORLD WITH PUBLIC ART BUT SOMETHING TO BE ON THE RADAR, WHAT I AM GETTING AT AND A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND FORMALIZING THE PROCESS. PUBLIC ART CAN MAKE OR BREAK A LOCATION. IT CAN ADD VITALIZATION, ADD BEAUTY, ATTRACTIVENESS. MAKE A PLACE ICONIC. IF YOU THINK OF DOWNTOWN DALLAS AND THE BIG SILVER ROBOT GUY THAT IS WALKING. RIGHT, THAT IS ICONIC IN PEOPLE'S MIND BECAUSE THEY THINK OF THAT AND THE SILVER BIRD. ALL OF THAT STUFF MAKES EVEN THE MARGARET HUNT BRIDGE, YOU COULD HAVE BUILT A BRIDGE BUT BUILT THE MARGARET HUNT BRIDGE BECAUSE ICONIC AND SEE IT IN PHOTOS. AND WAYS TO DO THAT, AND PRIME EXAMPLE OF HOW THE CITY HAS INVESTED IN A REALLY NICE PIECE OF ART THAT IS ICONIC IN A SIMILAR WAY. AND I WANT TO ESPECIALLY THANK KEEP ROWLETT BEAUTIFUL THAT WAS OUT THERE PLANTING FLOWERS A WEEK AGO AND BEAUTIFIED IT AND ADDED AWESOME STUFF, THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. >> WE SHOULD ON MILLER ROAD DO TWO [INAUDIBLE]. >> YOU MEAN EATING CATFISH DON'T YOU? >> I AM MORE BASS. NO CATFISH IN THERE. >> COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR FEEDBACK? >> I'M GOOD. >> OKAY. >> GREAT JOB, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> DID YOU GUYS FROM THE COMMISSION ANY FEEDBACK OR COMMENT YOU WANT TO MAKE? >> THE ONLY THING THAT THE PANEL IS COMPRISED OF MORE PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE COMMISSION ITSELF. IT WOULD BE COMPRISED OF DEPARTMENT HEADS AND PEOPLE IN THE CITY THAT HAVE GOOD BACKGROUND AS WELL. THOSE WERE THE ONLY THING. >> DOES THAT HELP, ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? >> YEAH, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT, THAT BRINGS IN OTHERS AND KEEP ROWLETT BEAUTIFUL [INAUDIBLE] YEAH. >> ALL RIGHT. [3.C. Receive an update regarding DART funding agreements & potential Projects.] OKAY. WITH THAT WE WILL CONCLUDE 3B AND MOVE TO 3C, RECEIVE AN UPDATE REGARDING D.A.R.T. FUNDING AGREEMENTS AND POTENTIAL PROJECTS. KRISTOFF. >> GOOD EVENING COUNCIL WE HAD A MEETING WITH D.A.R.T. AND HAD A PRIOR GRANT AND TALK ABOUT THAT AND NEW OPPORTUNITY FOR MOBILITY PROGRAM. IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED BY COUNCIL. THE PRIOR GRANT AND INITIAL FUNDING 5.3 MILLION, AND THAT WAS REHAB OF INDUSTRIAL STREET AND DID THAT IN-HOUSE. AND SPENT $1.1 MILLION DOING THAT IN-HOUSE. WHICH GIVE US SOME MONEY LEFT OVER. SO WE PROVIDED THEM WITH A REQUEST, ACTUALLY USE FOR WHAT WAS LOOSELY DEFINED AS A SPORTS COMPLEX AND GOT THAT APPROVAL. WE MUST SPEND THAT BY SEPTEMBER OF '27, SO OUR TIME FRAME FOR THAT FUNDING IS RUNNING OUT. AND THE INITIAL IDEA DESCRIBED TO ME AND HAVEN'T THIS A CONVERSATION PUBLICLY THAT I AM AWARE OF. WAS TO PUT A METAL ENCLOSED STRUCTURE FOR A HOCKEY RINK. AND SOME PICKLEBALL. ON THE DOWNTOWN GREEN AREA. AND PERHAPS STORAGE [INAUDIBLE] THERE. MY CONCERN ABOUT THIS, IT REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT. DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU WERE INVOLVED IN A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT IDEA. BUT SEEMED TO BE HELD PRETTY CLOSE TO THE VEST. >> I WOULD SAY THAT WAS HELD [00:55:04] VERY CLOSELY TO THE VEST. >> AND MY OTHER CONCERN THAT OPERATIONAL COST FOR A SKATING FACILITY YEAR ROUND COULD BE A CHALLENGE. SO SECOND IDEA IS TO LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT IS MORE OPEN. IT'S AMAZING WHAT YOU CAN GET WITH GOOGLE THESE DAYS OR CHATGPT THIS IS AN IDEA TO HAVE PAVILION THAT IS MORE OPEN AND MORE FLEXIBILITY TO IT. DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT IS SORT OF A CONSISTENT USE, COULD BE USED FOR PICKLEBALL, COULD BE USED FOR DOWNTOWN MARKET. COULD BE USED WHEN WE HAVE A RAIN THAT DOESN'T ALLOW AN EASTER EGG HUNT IN THE GRASS. AND ALLOW FLEXIBILITY IN DOWNTOWN AND RECOMMEND PUBLIC BATHROOMS AND STORAGE. IF WE HAVE FOR EXAMPLE NETS AND REMOVE THAT AND PLACE TO PUT NEARBY AND FUNCTIONAL. NOW THIS IS A BASIC IDEA, LIKE I SAID, ME AND CHATGPT, AND RECOMMEND IF COUNCIL IS COMFORTABLE TO EXPLORE IDEA AT HIGHER LEVEL. THAT WE ACTUALLY GET PROFESSIONAL DESIGN WORK DONE. IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH D.A.R.T., THEY OFFERED THAT THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF DESIGN FIRMS UNDER CONTRACT. AND THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO STEP IN AND ISSUE A TASK ORDER ON OUR BEHALF UTILIZING THESE FUNDS TO GET SOMEBODY WORKING ON IT AND WITH A QUICK TURN AROUND. WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CONSULTANT SELECTION AND CONTRACTING PROCESS. THEY COULD USE THEIR EXISTING CONTRACTS TO MOVE FORWARD. THAT WAS IDEA 1 AND WANTED TO GET FEEDBACK ON THIS SMALL PIECE OF IT. IS THIS SOMETHING PURSUING? OR IS THIS IDEA NOT WORTH CONTINUING TO TALK ABOUT? OR BETTER TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION AND HAVE A BROADER CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW THIS MIGHT WORK FOR DOWNTOWN OR NOT WORK FOR DOWNTOWN? >> TALKING ABOUT THE GREEN; RIGHT? >> UH-HUH. >> THIS WOULD BE-- >> CLOSER TO--MARTIN. >> YEAH. >> IT'S THAT SMALLER SECTION AND YOU STILL HAVE GREEN TO THE EAST? >> IT WOULD BE THE AREA, YOU HAVE THE CENTER, YOU HAVE TWO SQUARES THAT ARE CURRENTLY DEFINED BY SIDEWALKS THAT GO ACROSS THE GREEN. IT SHOULD GO FROM THAT MIDDLE ALL THE WAY TO MARTIN. >> KIND OF WHERE WE HAVE [INAUDIBLE]. >> PLUS THE NEXT ONE. >> PLUS THE NEXT SQUARE. >> I GUESS THE ONLY THING QUICKLY GET COMMUNITY FEEDBACK. I SAY IF WE HAVE LEARNED ANYTHING IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS, IT'S MAYBE NOT GET THE CART TOO MUCH AHEAD OF THE HORSE HERE. >> YEAH I WOULD LIKE [INAUDIBLE]. >> THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS ASKED. A LOT OF PICTURE, EVERYTHING OUT THERE. I AM KIND OF A LITTLE AMBIVALENT ABOUT IT, I THINK MAYBE POSSIBILITIES. AND ONE OF MY CONCERNS AND MAYBE SOME THAT KNOW ABOUT IT THAN ME. I UNDERSTAND THAT PICKLEBALL IN PARTICULAR HAS NOISE POLLUTION PROBLEMS THAT REALLY HEAVILY USED PICKLEBALL COURTS CAN BE ANNOYING QUICKLY WITH THE CONSTANT PLUCK, PLUCK. AND APARTMENTS THERE AND DOWNTOWN LIVING AREA AND NOT KILL IT BUT LOOK AT THAT SITE GIVES ME CONCERN. MAN, THE ICE RINK I'M NOT ON BOARD. BUT IF YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE A PRETTY SERIOUS CONSIDERATION MAYBE WE NEED TO GET EXPERT ANALYSIS. THAT'S ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS PARTICULARLY WITH PICKLEBALL. >> ANYONE ELSE? CERTAINLY THAT'S THE INTENTION TO GET ELEVATIONS, WHAT SOMETHING COULD LOOK LIKE. PERHAPS COST ESTIMATES AND THEN HAVE SOME COMMUNITY MEETINGS FOCUSED ON THIS IDEA. >> IS THERE A USE IT OR LOSE IT? >> YES. >> HAS TO BE USED? >> SEPTEMBER OF '27. >> NOT MUCH TIME TO USE IT. >> YEAH. >> I THOUGHT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DOWNTOWN ENTRANCES. >> YES, THAT'S MORE MONEY, DIFFERENT, OTHER FUNDING TO FOCUS ON THAT. >> OKAY. >> KRISTOFF, AND DEFINED THE COMPLEX AND D.A.R.T. DO WE HAVE TO STAY IN THAT BUCKET OF SPORTING COMPLEX OR USE FOR DIFFERENT USE? [01:00:04] >> I THINK PROBABLY OPEN TO SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AND CERTAINLY WE HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING WHICH COULD BE USED FOR THINGS FOR EXAMPLE, THE WAY FINDING AND THAT IN A SECOND. BUT I WANTED TO SEE IF THIS IS AN IDEA THAT YOU WANT TO PURSUE, IF NOT, IF YOU WANT TO SAY NO TO THIS. COME UP WITH OTHER IDEAS OF THAT MONEY AND ACCOMPLISH IN THE NEXT YEAR. >> D.A.R.T. WILL BE LOOKING FOR SOME WAY TO INCREASE DOWNTOWN TRAFFIC. THEY WANT TOD, THEY WANT TRANSPORTATION ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, SOMETHING LIKE THIS OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT GIVES PEOPLE A REASON TO COME TO ROWLETT. AND A FACILITY LIKE THIS, THAT IS COVERED, CERTAINLY I THINK ENHANCES THE ABILITY DO FARMER'S MARKETS AND THINGS DOWNTOWN, BECAUSE IT BECOMES A FLEX SPACE IN SOME REGARD. DOESN'T ALL HAVE TO BE PICKLEBALL, COULD BE A VARIETY OF USES. BUT PICKLEBALL IS THE HOT THING RIGHT NOW, PROBABLY WON'T BE FOREVER. KIND OF CAME OUT OF NOWHERE I FEEL LIKE IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS AND GOT POPULAR. BUT HAVING A COVERED FLEX SPACE LIKE THIS OPENS UP OPTIONS. AND I AM FAIRLY CERTAIN THAT D.A.R.T. IS OPEN TO ANY USE TO DRAW PEOPLE TO ACTIVITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. >> I AM OPEN TO IT, NOT THE ICE RINK. I LIKE THE IDEA OF THIS, YES PICKLEBALL [INAUDIBLE] COULD PROVIDE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES. BUT AGAIN WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IT, CERTAINLY WANT PUBLIC INPUT. >> WE'VE RECEIVED SEVERAL COMPLAINTS THERE IS NOT ENOUGH, AND [INAUDIBLE] PARK PEOPLE HOG AND CAN'T GET ON THE COURTS. ON THE COURTS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THE ANSWER OR NOT, IS IT GOING TO BE CONCRETE? OR GOING TO BE SPECIAL? >> AGAIN-- >> CERTAINLY WE HAVE CONCRETE BASE AND THEN SOME SORT OF PLAYING SURFACE ON TOP OF IT. >> I AM AFRAID TO USE FOR MULTIUSE TEAR IT UP. >> PICKLEBALL DOESN'T HAVE TO BE HARDWOOD, SOME KIND OF COMPARABLE PURPOSE. >> USE THE TENNIS COURTS. >> USE IT LIKE A TENNIS COURT SURFACE, PAINT IT. >> MY THOUGHTS TOO LIKE IN THE HOT SUMMERS THAT WE LOVE TO HAVE HERE, PUT THE BAND, OUT THERE AND PEOPLE GET UNDERNEATH THERE AND LISTEN TO THE MUSIC TOO DURING THE DAY OR WHATEVER. TO GIVE SOME SHADE. BUT I WOULD BE FOR IT, BUT WORRIED THAT WE WOULD BE TEARING UP THE PICKLEBALL COURT BUT LIKE THE IDEA TO PULL UP THE NETS TO DO THAT. AND WHERE WOULD YOUR RESTROOM BE OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? >> THE EDGE NEAR MARTIN. I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND THAT WE CLOSE OFF THAT ENTIRE AREA AND WALKING IN DOWNTOWN, YOU DON'T WANT GAPS OR BLANK SPACES. YOU WANT THINGS ACTIVATED. EVEN AS WE PUT IN THAT AREA, DOWNTOWN VIEW CORRIDOR AND DON'T RECOMMEND THAT YOU TAKE THAT ENTIRE 110 FEET, THE WIDTH OF THAT AREA. AND MAYBE ON BOTH CORNERS AND A BATHROOM ON THIS CORNER AND STORAGE CORNER AND GIVE THE ABILITY WALK THROUGH THE MIDDLE. >> I THINK THAT RESTROOMS ARE CERTAINLY A GREAT IDEA. >> NICE THING TO HAVE, IF WE WANT TO DO AN ICE RINK DURING THE WINTER, THIS WOULD GIVE US A SURFACE TO ALLOW US TO DO THAT AND I RECOMMEND THAT WE PUT ELECTRIC TO THIS AND DON'T HAVE TO USE GENERATORS TO A NUMBER OF THINGS. TO HAVE ELECTRIC SERVICES NOT ONLY FOR THIS BUT OTHER POTENTIAL USES IN THE AREA. >> YOU HAVE ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION OR ANOTHER PROPOSAL? >> THIS IS THE ONLY IDEA I HAVE. >> CHATGPT WAS ALL OUT THAT DAY. [LAUGHTER] LET'S GO BACK KRISTOFF FOR MORE QUESTIONS. >> JUST A COMMENT AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET EVERYBODY'S OPINION. IF WE GO TO THE COMMUNITY AND ASK THEM, ARE WE BETTER CALLING IT A DOWNTOWN PAVILION AND LEAVE THE SPORTS OUT OF IT? THAT'S A USE OF THE PAVILION. I AM CONCERNED IF WE CALL IT A DOWNTOWN SPORTS PAVILION IT PAINTS IT INTO A CERTAIN NICHE, I THINK THE ACTUAL VISION OF IT IS BROADER THAN THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE THINKS. >> AND STILL GISD MULTIUSE? >> IMPACTING. >> CALL IT A MAC. >> I TEND TO AGREE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, CERTAINLY NOT TO SCALE. BUT IS THAT NUMBER OF PICKLEBALL COURTS REASONABLE WITH THE SPACE [01:05:03] PROVIDED? I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO KNOW THAT. IT MAY NOT BE THAT WE ALLOCATE THE ENTIRE SPACE TO PICKLEBALL AND PART SOMETHING ELSE AND PART PICNIC TABLES. AND MOVE THAT OUT AND ACTIVITY SPACE WHEN WE NEED IT. AND AGREE WITH DOWNTOWN PAVILION BRANDING. >> THE IDEA IS THAT PICKLEBALL BRING PEOPLE DOWNTOWN. >> SURE; RIGHT. AND ALL THE PURPOSES ON THE RIGHT. >> AND CHANGING IT, AND IF PICKLEBALL GOES AWAY AND EASILY MAKE IT INTO SOMETHING ELSE. >> YEAH. >> AND WE JUST NEED TO LET THE CITIZENS AND LIKE THE LIGHTS AND OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT THEY COME UP WITH. INTERESTING TO HEAR SOME OF THOSE. >> GOOD. >> SO UTILITY PROGRAM, JUNE 3 IS OUR DEADLINE. THE ADDITIONAL NEW FUNDING 473 IN 2026. WE DID CLARIFY THAT WE CAN ACCUMULATE FUNDING AND DON'T HAVE TO SPEND ALL IN A YEAR AND IT CAN ADD UP OVER A COUPLE OF YEARS. WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM AN IDEA OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO BY JUNE 30. THE FORM TO FILL OUT THEY SAY CAN BE MORE GENERAL THAN ASKS FOR. AND ASK WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AND COST, AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. WE HAVE TO BE MORE VAGUE. >> IS IT REIMBURSABLE IF WE SPEND MORE UP FRONT AND FUTURE TRANCHES. >> I HAVEN'T ASKED THAT QUESTION BU THEY HAVE DESIGNS AND IDEAS THEY PUT TOGETHER TO USE IN YOUR COMMUNITY. AND OF COURSE WE HAVE THE DOWNTOWN PLAN TO IMPLEMENT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT DOWNTOWN PLAN AND SEE WHAT ELEMENTS THERE WE CAN USE. INCLUDING WAY FINDING AND ELEMENTS LIKE THAT. AND A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BRIEFL DURING OUR CONVERSATION. IS THE IDEA OF WAY FINDING UP HERE, SORT OF COUNCIL TALKED ABOUT THIS, WHETHER IT'S AN ARCH OR SOME OTHER THING AT THIS LOCATION. I FIND AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU FIND THIS, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW YOU THEY CAN GET TO DOWNTOWN ON THIS STREET. SOMEONE SAID IT'S ALWAYS CLOGGED DOWN HERE, HOW DO I GET DOWNTOWN, KEEP DRIVING AND TURN LEFT OR RIGHT ON MARTIN, REALLY? WHAT IT'S CALLED? WE HAVE COMMITMENT FROM THEM TO DO FEASIBILITY RECEIVING ADDITIONAL PEDESTRIAN ACCESS OVER HERE. DOING A FEASIBILITY STUDY ON THAT. THERE WAS UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS NO LONGER MAKES SENSE. THIS DOESN'T MATCH THEIR SERVICE MODEL ANY LONGER. SO A QUESTION RECONFIGURE THAT IN SOME WAY. THEY DID POINT OUT IF THE RAIL LINE GOES DOWN THEY HAVE TO USE BUSES AS A BACKUP. BUT CERTAINLY ADMITTED THEY DON'T NEED THIS KIND OF SPACE. AND BECAUSE OF THAT SPACE, SORT OF KEEPS PEOPLE AWAY FROM THE MAIN CROSSING. EVERYONE AGREES THIS CROSSING IS NOT COMFORTABLE FRANKLY AND CLEAR RIGHT NOW. SO A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THAT. WE TALKED ABOUT THE PAVILION DOWN HERE AND THEY LIKED THAT IDEA OR SUPPORTIVE OF THE FUNDING USED FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND LIKED THE IDEA OF PEDESTRIAN TRAIL THAT GOES ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND BACK OVER HERE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY AGREE TO A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING AND GET THAT APPROVED, ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME THROUGH HERE AND ON THE TRAIL AND GO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. MAKE THAT TRAIL MAKE MORE SENSE TO MAKE THE CROSSING TO MAKE MORE SENSE. SO THOSE ARE JUST THE BRAINSTORMING WE HAD WITH THAT TEAM. AS I SAID TO GIVE THE PARKS IDEA AND IF WE IDENTIFIED THIS KIND OF PIECE BY JUNE 30. THAT IS ENOUGH TO SORT OF HOLD THE FUNDING FOR US MOVING FORWARD AS WE LOOK AT THESE THINGS. AND AGAIN THEY SAID, LOOK, GIVE US PERMISSION TO BUILD THE TRAIL AND START BUILDING THE TRAIL TOMORROW. THE KIND OF RESPONSE, THEY WERE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT IDEA. >> I LOVE THAT IDEA. >> I LIKE IT TOO. >> I THINK IT BRINGS PEOPLE DOWN TOO. >> [INAUDIBLE]. [LAUGHTER] >> SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE STARTED. ARE THERE THINGS WE ARE MISSING? NOW OF COURSE WE DO HAVE A DOWNTOWN PLAN AND ALSO HAVE $700,000 LEFT OUT OF THE GRANT MONEY--BOND MONEY, THAT REALLY WAS LOOKING AT STREET AMENITIES, AND ADDITIONAL SORT OF WAY FINDING AND OTHER THINGS FOR DOWNTOWN. THOSE ARE FUNDING THAT WE HAVE TO DO THAT. [01:10:02] OTHER THAN THE WAY FINDING PIECES AND CERTAINLY THAT WAY FINDING CANNOT JUST BE UP HERE, BUT COULD BE IN OTHER AREAS. THEY ARE COMFORTABLE WITH WAY FINDING TO GET IN THAT AREA BEING PART OF THESE FUNDS. BUT WE ALSO HAVE FUNDING OF OUR OWN TO FOCUS ON A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. AND LOOKING ON THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT BRANDING. >> WE COULD RECONFIGURE THE ACCESS, MEANING WHAT? COULD WOULD THEY DO WITH IT? >> I HAVE NO IDEA BUT RIGHT NOW COMPLETELY UNUSED SPACE. >> I WONDER IF THEY MIGHT BE WILLING TO PART WITH THAT PIECE PARKING LOT.AND CUT IT AT THE - AND GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING THERE. REDEVELOPMENT IT OR SOMETHING WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN THERE. WHAT I DON'T WANT IS FOR THEM TO SAY OH, LOOK WE COULD HAVE MORE PARKING AND A PARKING LOT. THAT WOULD BE THE WORSE USE OF THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. ANYTHING THAT WOULD ADD CONNECTION OVER TO MARTIN EXACTLY. FROM THE PLATFORM AND FROM THAT PART OF THE LOT. WOULD MAKE A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE. >> AND PUT A FOOD TRUCK THERE AND BACK IN FOR LUNCH. >> I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT ANSWER, I ASK THEM TO SHY AWAY FROM SAYING PAVE IT AND EXTRA PARKING. I THINK IT'S CLOSER TO DOWNTOWN AND THAT'S APPEALING BECAUSE WE NEED MORE PARKING IN PROXIMITY OF DOWNTOWN. I FEEL THAT'S A TERRIBLE USE THAT DIRECTLY CONNECT THAT PARKING LOT TO THE TRAIL. >> AND A HOUSING PIECE IS A KEY PIECE. IT FEELS LIKE THAT IS THE PARKING LOT FOR DOWNTOWN. >> THEY DID SAY AND DOING A FEASIBILITY STUDY ON THIS BUT WANTED TO WARN THERE IS A FREIGHT LINE AND THAT COULD BE PROBLEMATIC. AND WANTED TO BE SURE THEY EXPLORED IT. >> AND DGNO MAKES THAT DIFFICULT. THERE IS PLENTY OF PLACES WHERE YOU CAN HOP OFF THE LIGHT RAIL AND GO TO AAC OR FAIR PARK BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE CROSSING ON LIGHT RAIL. THIS FREIGHT LINE MAKE ITS DIFFICULT. >> [INAUDIBLE] FREIGHT LINE TRAIL. >> DON'T DISAGREE BUT EXPOSE MORE LIABILITY. >> AND COME THROUGH THE CITY AT 40 MILES PER HOUR. >> THEY EXPRESSED A STRONG INTEREST AND RESPONDED TO SEE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. >> WE HAD A LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT PUBLIC ART IS WITHIN THE D.A.R.T. MONEY IS THAT A POSSIBLE USE OR IF NOT EVEN WITH THAT, AS WE DESIGN THIS IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO CONSIDER? SO YOU KNOW, LOOK AT PUBLIC ART THAT IS AS PUBLIC AS IT GETS AND HIGH VISIBILITY THAT YOU GET. AND MAYBE AS YOU PUT TOGETHER THE PLANS AND SOMETHING TO TOSS IN THE MIX. >> I HAVEN'T SPECIFICALLY ASKED THE QUESTION FOR THEIR FUNDING BUT WE HAVE OUR FUNDING THAT COULD BE USED IN A NUMBER OF KEY AREAS. >> THE DOWNTOWN STRATEGIC PLAN HAS ART AS COMPONENT. IT IS WHAT MAKES IT AND MURAL AND PLACE MAKERS AND THOSE THINGS AND INTERACTIVE MURAL ARE SUPER IMPORTANT. WE DON'T OWN A TON OF PROPERTY THAN THE BUILDING WE ARE IN. AND MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO SET UP A MURAL WITHOUT PPP WITH LANDOWNER THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE. THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE OLD DEVELOPMENT BUILDING THAT IS NOW SALON AND I THINK THAT CONVERSATION PRETTY MUCH DIED. BUT DOESN'T MEAN THERE ISN'T FUTURE OPPORTUNITY. >> I SAY THROW IT IN AND AS CHECKING BOXES AND A BOX FOR THAT. >> YEAH, THE WHOLE LITTLE ROUNDABOUT THAT THEY HAVE IS REALLY INTERESTING. THERE IS LIKE A POCKET PARK ACROSS FROM IT AS WELL. IT'S AN INTERESTING SPACE THERE AND I WONDER IF THERE IS A BETTER WAY TO UTILIZE THAT. WHETHER IT BECOMES A PARK LAND SPACE OR WHAT. WE HAVE TO TALK MORE ABOUT THAT KRI KRISTOFF IF THEY HAVE IDEAS FOR US. >> AND I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE REALLY IDEAS ABOUT THAT, THEY ARE PROFESSIONALS THAT DO THAT. I'M NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. >> YOU WOULD PROBABLY FIT THREE COFFEE SHOPS ON THAT LOT. [LAUGHTER] >> ALWAYS POSITIVE. SO WE ALSO TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THIS IDEA. WHICH IS OUR COMMUNITY SURVEY. A NEW RAIL STATION. I SAID JUST BLUE SKYING WHAT YOU [01:15:03] THINK ABOUT THIS? >> I LOVE IT. >> THEY SAID, THAT'S AN INTERESTING IDEA. WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT. THEY TALKED ABOUT HAVING ROCKWALL TO JOIN D.A.R.T. TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND DON'T UNDERSTAND TO GET ROCKWALL TRAFFIC OFF OF OUR STREETS AND ON TO D.A.R.T. >> WHAT BENEFIT THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE NOW, THE PARKING LOT AT MOST 30% FULL. JUST ECONOMICALLY IT DOESN'T SEEM TO MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. IF WE WERE ABSOLUTELY BUSTING AT THE SEAMS, PARTICULARLY PEOPLE COMING IN FROM THE EAST. I THINK YEAH, IT WOULD MAYBE BE MORE URGENT OR MORE-- >> I THINK, I THINK THAT THE PEOPLE COMING FROM THE EAST ABSOLUTELY WOULD LOVE IT. THAT MEANS THEY DON'T HAVE TO GET OFF ON DALROCK TO CROSS AND DON'T HAVE TO GET OFF DPT, GET OFF 30 AND RIGHT THERE. I THINK THAT COULD BE A FANTASTIC PARK-N-RIDE SPOT. >> I THINK THAT'S DALLAS WE ARE POINTING, NOT ROWLETT. THAT'S CITY OF DALLAS RIGHT THERE. >> WHAT? >> CITY OF DALLAS, REMEMBER WHEN WE DID THE BAY SIDE IT WAS AND ONE PART THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE UP. WHEN THEY DID THE BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENTS. THEY KEPT THAT. THAT'S THE CITY OF DALLAS RIGHT THERE. IF CITY OF DALLAS WANTS TO COME AND WORK ON THAT AND TAKE THE CALLS, COME ON. >> HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. >> AND FORTUNATELY A D.A.R.T. MEMBER MAKE THAT CONVERSATION EASY. >> AND WHETHER THEY SHOW UP. >> AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT THAT MEANS THAT THE END OF LINE IS NOT IN DOWNTOWN. IT'S THERE. AND I THINK THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. >> YES. IT DOES. >> AND IF THEY WERE LOOKING TO DO IT, LET'S MAKE THE TURNSTILES OR SOMETHING THAT'S MORE, THE CLOSED SYSTEM THEY DON'T HAVE ISSUES THEY HAVE NOW. >> YEAH. >> YEAH CLOSED SYSTEM IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE HAD LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR D.A.R.T. BOARD REPRESENTATIVE ABOUT AND IF THEY HAD THE FUNDING AND BE EXCITED ABOUT IT TOO. BUT THEY DON'T. AND THE SYSTEM IS NOT BUILT LIKE THAT, EVERY STOP IS WIDE OPEN. IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS ALONE CAN YOU IMAGINE CONTAIN THOSE FOUR STOPS IN THE DOWNTOWN OF DALLAS AND SURROUNDED BY BUILDINGS. >> AND ON THE SILVER LINE HOW DID THEY DO THOSE PLATFORMS OPEN? >> YEAH, THEY ARE OPEN TOO. >> THAT'S MY EXPERIENCE WITH OTHER TRANSIT SYSTEMS AND ART, EVEN IN THEIR CURRENT ONE THEY HAVE NOW. SIGNIFICANT ART PANELS AROUND THIS. SO GOING BACK TO COUNCILMEMBER SCHUPP'S EXCEPTION AND ART IS PART. >> AND D.A.R.T. HAS COPIES OF THAT IN THE TRAIN, ABSOLUTELY SUPPORTIVE OF THOSE ENDEAVORS AND I THINK OPEN TO THAT. >> OTHER THINGS THAT YOU MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM ABOUT? >> NOT AT THE MOMENT. >> SO JUMP ON THOSE IDEAS, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE USE THOSE IDEAS TO SUPPORT, TO SORT OF LOCKDOWN THIS YEAR'S FUNDING BY JUNE 30. AND SHARE THAT TO COUNCIL AS WE DRAFT THAT IN CASE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. AND GET TO WORK MORE DESIGN WORK DONE ON THE DOWNTOWN PAVILION IDEA. SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME PICTURES AND MORE INFORMAION TO SHARE WITH THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC. AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. >> AND ASK ABOUT REIMBURSABLE EXPENSES ALSO. IN CASE WE DECIDE TO DO A CAPITAL INVESTMENT IN DOWNTOWN AND THEY SUPPORT AND REIMBURSE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND NOT HAVE TO WAIT FOR THAT FUNDING TO ACCUMULATE BEFORE WE DID IT. >> GOT IT, FOLLOW UP WITH THAT. THAT'S THE END OF THIS ITEM. >> COUNCIL, ANY LAST QUESTIONS [4. Executive Session] OR THOUGHTS? ALL RIGHT, PERFECT. CONCLUDE ITEM 3C, AND MOVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND READ ALL THREE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD AND TAKE BRIEF RECESS AND RECONVENE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND AFTER WHICH CONVENE THIS OPEN SOGZ. [01:20:01] THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL CONVENE INTO CLOSED, EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, 551.071 (CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY) TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING ORD-10-25 AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 77-908 ILLEGAL NONCONFORMITY TO PROVIDE A LIMITED EXCEPTION FOR CERTAIN ACCESSORY STRUCTURES. THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL CONVENE INTO CLOSED, EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, 551.072 (DELIBERATION REGARDING REAL PROPERTY) TO DELIBERATE THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE, OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF ROWLETT, TEXAS. THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL CONVENE INTO CLOSED, EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, 551.074 (PERSONNEL MATTERS) TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT, EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT, DUTIES, DISCIPLINE, OR DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE, TO WIT: INTERIM CITY MANAGER. THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL CONVENE WITH THAT CONVENE OUR REGULAR WORK SESSION AT 7:20 P.M. AND >> ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL HAS [5. Reconvene Into Open Session and Take Any Necessary or Appropriate Action on Closed/Executive Session Matters] [6. Discuss Consent Agenda Items for April 21, 2026, City Council Meeting] CONCLUDED EXECUTIVE ITEMS 4A, 4B AND 4C. AND MOVING TO ITEM 6, DO WE HAVE CONSENT ON AGENDA ITEMS TO PULL FOR CONSIDERATION? MR. GIBBS, NO? >> WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE GRANTS. FOR THE SCHOOLS. >> YOU CAN PULL TOMORROW, NOT * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.