May 04, 2026 City Council Work Session

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>> GOOD EVENING TODAY IS MONDAY MAY 4TH, 2026 AND 6 P.M. AND THE

[2. Citizens’ Input]

HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> DAVE HOLT ROWLETT I NOTICED WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ADDING AN AN EX OFFICIO MEMBER AND WHAT THIS WILL BRING TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

ON THE MARCH EDAB MEETING I HAD MY CITIZEN INPUT ALREADY AND IT WAS CANCELED AT THE LAST MINUTE FOR LACK OF A QUORUM, TIMES WHEN THEY HAVE A DEATH IN A FAMILY AND COULDN'T GO BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM MAYBE WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE MEMBERSHIP.

IN THE COURSE OF MY WORK AT PADDLE PARK I RUN INTO MANY INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE, PEOPLE WHO HAVE BUILT PARKS, GET THE PARKS DOOPGHTED AND DRIVE A LOT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS ONE WHO FOUND OUT WAS COMING TO ROWLETT.

HE MENTIONED TO ME THAT MAIN LAND HAS OUTSTANDING LOGISTIC SKILLS SHE'S BIGGER THAN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, SHE OUGHT TO BE THE CITY MANAGER. SO WE'RE IN A STATE FAIR TO SAY WE'RE IN A STATE OF CONFUSION WITH STAFF AND THE CITY AT THIS POINT. SOMETIMES WE LOSE GOOD PEOPLE DURING THIS ENVIRONMENT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP SHE'S IN. SHE'S A KEEPER, AND MIGHT AS WELL GO LAST THREE POINTS 20 YEARS AGO WE LOST PADDLE POINT LAKESIDE NUMBER PARK TWO HAS BEEN ABANDONINGED BY THE CITY.

NUMBER THREE, PADDLE POINT PARK THANKS FOR LETTING ME ADDRESS

THE COUNCIL AND THE RESIDENTS. >> THANKS, DAVE.

>> ALL RIGHT ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH

[3.A. Receive an overview of enforcement efforts addressing disruptive activity in the Downtown Area over the past nine months, and discuss a proposal for amending the Code of Ordinances (Chapter 34 "Miscellaneous Offenses") regarding loitering in public places and disruptive behavior in city facilities.]

BEHAVIOR IN FACILITIES. >> THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL. THANKS FOR GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT REALLY JUST GIVE YOU A KIND OF A GOOD OVERVIEW OF ALL OF THE ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN DOWNTOWN PARTICULARLY OVER THE LAST NINE MONTHS BUT REALLY OVER THE LAST WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH CHALLENGES AND COMPLAINTS FOR YEARS IN THIS DOWNTOWN AREA.

SO WE'RE GOING KIND OF BREAK THIS UP INTO TWO SECTIONS GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE MULTIFACETED APPROACH THAT WE'VE BEEN TAKING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE DISTURBANCES AND DISORDERLY CONDUCT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED IN THE LIBRARY AND NOT JUST THE LIBRARY, LIBRARY ALSO CITY HALL IN THE DOWNTOWN GREEN, AND THEN THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS A SMALL PART IS WE'RE RECOMMENDING AN AMEND TO AN ORDINANCE, AND WHICH IS BASICALLY JUST CLARIFYING SOME LANGUAGE SORT OF MODERNIZING THE LANGUAGE IN OUR ORDINANCE. AND WON'T GIVE US ENFORCEMENT ABILITY BUT HELP CLARIFY SOME OF THE LANGUAGE SO THAT AS WE GROW AS A CITY AND WE EXPAND, IT'S IN LINE WITH THAT.

SO WITH THAT A LITTLE BACKGROUND INFORMATION.

THIS SCHOOL YEAR, WE NOTICED AUGUST SCHOOL STARTED, OR LATE AUGUST EARLY SEPTEMBER WE NOTICED ALMOST UPTICK IN ACTIVITY IN NUISANCE BEHAVIOR PARTICULARLY FROM THE LIBRARY.

BUT ALSO ORIGINATING KIND OF FROM MIDDLE SCHOOL ACROSS CITY HALL, AND OVER SOMETIMES INTO THE DOWNTOWN GREEN AREA.

WE HAD A COUPLE OF CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT GENERATED PRETTY LARGE OFFSERVICE RESPONSE MAINLY WE HAD ONE OR TWO INSTANCES WHERE KIDS FROM NOT JUST BUT OUTSIDE SCHOOLS IN GSD CONGREGATING AT THE LIBRARY AS A MEETING AREA.

WHERE THEY WERE MEETING THERE TO WATCH A FIGHT.

AND YOU KNOW, I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUTOUT TO LAURA TURNER BECAUSE CONVERSATIONS REALLY STARTED WITH HER ON WHAT WE COULD DO TO HELP ADDRESS THAT SITUATION. SO WE CAN REDUCE THE CALLS FOR SERVICE. AND SHE DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF PUTTING SOME INTERNAL POLICIES IN PLACE INSIDE THE LIBRARY WHICH FREES OUR OFFICERS TO BE MORE OUTSIDE INVISIBLE TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS SO WE SAW THIS UP TICK STARTING KIND OF

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AND MOSTLY COMPLAINTS OCCURRING BETWEEN 5 AND 5:30 IN THE AFTERNOON MANY WERE LINKED AS I MENTIONED TO THE RELEASE OF GSD CAMPUSES THAT DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR WAS -- BECOMING MORE AND MORE CONCERNING.

WE WERE GETTING MORE AND MORE COMPLAINTS.

ALSO UNRELATED TO THE DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, BUT KIND OF IN LINE WITH SOME OF THE CHALLENGES IN THIS DOWNTOWN AREA WAS THE PERCEPTION OF AN INCREASE IN HOME LEST POPULATION IN AND AROUND CITY HALL. PARTICULARLY IN THE EVENING HOURS, WHEN THERE'S LIMITED STAFF HERE AT CITY HALL.

AND SOME CONCERNS ABOUT SAFETY IN THAT REGARD.

AND THEN LASTLY, THERE WERE SOME OCCASIONAL NIGHTTIME INSTANCES CRIMINAL MISCHIEF SOME GRAFFITI RELATED ISSUES, DAMAGED PROPERTY, AROUND CITY HALL AND THEN WE HAD SOME -- A FEW INSTANCES OF CRIMINAL MISCHIEF INSIDE THE VILLAGE OF ROWLETT APARTMENTS. SO THIS SPURRED OUR CONVERSATION ABOUT IF IT IS PREDICTABLE IT IS PREVENTIBLE WE'RE SEEING THIS UP TICK IN THE SCHOOL YEAR AND WE'VE HAD A OFFICER ASSIGNED TO THE LIBRARY OFTEN TIMES MORE INSIDE THE LIBRARY.

AND SO WE KNEW THAT WE NEEDED TO ADDRESS THIS NOT JUST FROM PUTTING ONE OFFICER SORT OF A ONE STOP APPROACH, AS WE HIT THIS FROM MULTIPLE ANGLES. SO RIGHT AROUND THAT TIME JUST JOINING THE TOO MANY IN JULY. I THINK THIS WAS MAYBE ONE OF HIS FIRST ASSIGNMENTS. WAS TO GET A GRASP ON IT, AND HIT THIS FROM MULTIPLE ANGLES SO HE DID A REALLY GREAT JOB OF GALVANIZING THIS TEAM AND SET UP WITH GSD TO START OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES MET DIRECTLY WITH THE PRINCIPLE AT QAL AND HOW THE PRINCIPALS AND THEIR ADMINISTRATION MAY BE ABLE TO HELP US BOTH THROUGH WETION WETION -- EDUCATION WITH PARENTS AND KIDS AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S, WHAT AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITIES THEY MAY HAVE THAT MAY GIVE KIDS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING AT THE SCHOOL INSTEAD OF JUST CONGREGATING AT THE LIBRARY. PART OF THAT DISCUSSION WAS ALSO AS I MENTIONED EDUCATIONAL PIECE.

SO WE COLLABORATED WITH THE GISPO AND IRPO AND DID A AWARENESS CAMPAIGN AND JUST A SECOND HERE.

BUT THAT VIDEO STARTED OUR VERY OWN SRO AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

TASHA MCCOURT, AND THAT WAS LAUNCHED OUT ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA AS WELL AS THE GSD SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN RELAUNCH OUT I WAS TALKING TO THE CITY MANAGER EARLIER TODAY STARTING AT BEGINNING OF NEXT SCHOOL YEAR AS A REMINDER ESPECIALLY FOR THE PARENTS. AND THEN AS I MENTIONED WE'VE ALWAYS HAD FOR YEARS WE'VE HAD AN OFFICER ASSIGNED AT THE LIBRARY. BUT WHEN WE SAW THIS UPTICK WE WENT AHEAD AND PART OF THAT APPROACH WAS TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL ORS TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA, AND SO WE'RE UTILIZING THE FUNDING FOR THAT DEPLOYMENT OF TWO OFFICERS DAILY.

YOU'LL NOTICE WE'VE HAD TWO OUT HERE FOR A WHILE AND ONE OF THE OFFICERS IS SORT OF A -- POST POSITION OUT IN FRONT OF THE LIBRARY SO HIGH VISIBILITY DETERRENT THEY GET TO KNOW THE KIDS AND THEY'RE FANTASTIC BECAUSE THEY KNOW THESE KIDS.

AND THEY KNOW WHICH ONES ARE KIND OF THE ONES THAT GIVE US MORE OF THE PROBLEMS. AND THEN SECOND OFFICER IS -- ASSIGNED NOT JUST IN FRONT OF THE LIBRARY SOMETIMES YOU'LL SEE THEM DOWN THERE BUT THEY GO TO WHERE THE KIDS ARE.

WHEN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL IS OUT THEY FOLLOW THE CROWD AND KIDS BEHAVE BETTER WHEN THEY SEE A POLICE OFFICER THERE.

SHOCKER RIGHT -- [LAUGHTER] SO WITHOUT THAT THEY HAVE A TENDENCY THEY WOULD WALK BY CITY HALL AND FOUND ON THE WINDOWS AND PICK UP ROCKS AND DAMAGE OUR DECORATIONS OVER THE HOLIDAYS. SO THAT SECOND OFFICER WILL SHOW YOU SOME STATS HERE IN A MINUTE HAS BEEN A BIG IMPACT IN A POSITIVE -- REALLY PROUD OF THOSE OFFICERS FOR HOW THEY'VE GOTTEN A GRASP ON THIS.

NEXT APARTMENT OF THIS MULTIFACETTING APPROACH WAS TALKING WITH OUR TROOPS ABOUT A ZERO TOLERANCE APPROACH IN REGARDS TO ENFORCE SOMENT WE PUSH THIS OUT TO OUR PATROL DIVISION ALL OF OUR SPECIALIZED CORE UNIT WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE. AND REALLY JUST ATTACK THAT ZERO TOLERANCE FOR ANY DISRUPTIVE ACTIVITY, ANY OF THE PLANNED FIGHTS THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE THE PLACE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO TOLL RATE IT. I MENTIONED THE VILLAGE APARTMENTS. SO WE ALSO HAD A GREAT COMMUNITY POLICING WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES AND MEETING WITH THE MANAGEMENT AT VILLAGE OF ROWLETT TALKED TO THEM ABOUT HOW THEY CAN BETTER CREATE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR THEIR RESIDENTS.

KEEPING THE GATES LOCKED, HOW TO REPORT INCIDENTS TO THE POLICE WHEN SHOULD THEY CALL? EDUCATED THEM ON CRIMINAL TRESPASS, WARNINGS, AND HOW THEY COULD FACILITATE THOSE IF THEY HAVE KIDS THAT ARE BASICALLY ON THE PROPERTY CAUSING ISSUES,

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WE'LL TALK ABOUT HERE IN A MINUTE ALL OF THE KIDS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED. BUT WE HAVE SOME UPDATES ON THAT AS WELL. AND THEN THE LAST PIECE OF THIS APPROACH WAS THE DEPLOYMENT OF OUR CORE UNIT.

OUR CORE UNIT I THINK YOU'RE AWARE BUT IF YOU'RE NOT IT IS THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH RESPONSE AND ENGAGEMENT UNIT IT CONSISTS OF TWO OFFICERS AND CLINICIAN I'LL HAVE BASICALLY TALK A

LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. >> OKAY.

SO THE CORE UNIT WE FOUNDED THAT IN NOVEMBER, FINALLY ABLE TO GET THAT UP AND RUNNING THEY'VE BEEN A COUPLE OF MONTHS IN THE WORKS BASICALLY WE HAD -- WE DON'T HAVE ONE OR DIDN'T HAVE ONE PRIOR TO THIS AND WE HAD TO CREATE, YOU KNOW, PARAMETERS AND DESCRIBE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE MISSION WAS.

AND WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

WITH THE CORE UNIT THE MISSION OF THE CORE UNIT IS TO RESPOND TO SITUATIONS IN WHICH WE HAVE PEOPLE EXPERIENCING CRISIS, KIND OF OFTEN TIMES TIMES IS OUR ENHD POPULATIONS ALSO TO RESPOND TO CALLS FOR SERVICE TO BE A FORCE MULTIPLIER FOR THE PATROL UNITS THAT ARE RESPONDING TO SITUATIONS IN WHICH BOTH PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING MIGHT BE AT THEIR OWN RESIDENTS BUT THEY'RE EXPERIENCING METAL HEALTH ISSUES AND THEY NEED SOMEBODY TO SPEND SOME QUALITY TIME REQUEST THEM. WHY THIS DESIGN WAS DIFFERENT THAN THE PREVIOUS DESIGN WAS WE TEAMED YOU HAVE OUR MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIAN CRISIS CLINICIAN WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUES WITH PATROL OFFICER MS. KAREN SANDERS THEY'RE VERY VISIBLE YOU'LL SEE THEM DRIVING AROUND TOWN IN A WHITE TAHOE RESPONDING TO CALLS SO THEY SELF-DISPATCH TO CALLS BUT THEY ALSO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR BEING DISPATCHED AND IF THEY'RE DISPATCHING OFFICERS TO SOMEBODY WHO IS -- THREATENING TO TAKE THEIR OWN LIFE, WE'RE DISPATCHING THE CORE UNIT TO ASSIST WITH THAT. ONCE THE SCENE IS SAFE, THEY CAN ENGAGE WITH SAID INDIVIDUAL AND THEY CAN SPEND AS MUCH TIME AS NEEDED HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE NEEDED TO FIGURE OUT JUST WHAT THE BEST SERVICES MIGHT BE FOR THE PERSON WHO IS EXPERIENCING CRISIS. WHY IS THIS ?ORNGHT I THINK THE BIGGEST THING TO POINT OUT IS THAT, WHEN THESE -- WHEN THE CORE UNIT IS RESPONDING FREES OUR OFFICERS TO GO BACK TO THE STREET TO HANDLE THE 9-1-1 CALLS, TO ATTACK CARE OF THE EMERGENCY SITUATIONS. OFTENTIMES FOLKS EXPERIENCING CRISIS SITUATIONS CAN TAKE SEVERAL HOURS.

SO NOT ONLY IS THE CORE UNIT EQUIPPED WITH RESOURCES TO PROVIDE THEM THEY'RE ALSO EQUIPPED WITH SKILLS TO EVALUATE WHAT MAYBE THE BEST SETTING FOR THEM SOMETIMES IT IS BASICALLY HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEBODY AT THEIR HOUSE FOR COUPLE OF HOURS OR 15 MINUTES DEPENDS ON THE SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES OR MAY BE SOMETHING WHERE THEY HAVE TO TAKE THEM INTO EMERGENCY CUSTODY SITUATION WHEN IS CALLED APAL AND GET TO THE MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY TO GET TREATMENT.

SO IT REALLY RUNS THE GAMUT OF IT WIDE SUCCESS WITH IT AND PATROL UNITS HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AND THE REASON WHY IT TAKES ONE MORE THING OFF THE PLATE WITH THIS DESIGNATED TEAM BUT FEEDBACK FROM THE TEAM YOU SEE STATISTICS HERE SHORTLY HAS BEEN -- HAS BEEN GREAT.

LIKE I SAID NOT ONLY ARE THEY DISPATCHING THEMSELVES, BUT THEY ARE SUBJECT TO BEING DISPATCHED SO THESE AREN'T FOLKS JUST DRIVING AROUND WAITING FOR CALLS THEY'RE ACTUALLY ACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THEY TRAVEL CITY WIDE SO IT IS NOT JUST GOING TO BE FOR OUR DOWNTOWN AREA BUT LIKE I SAID FOR THE 22 SQUARE MILES THAT MAKE UP OUR GREAT CITY.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PLAY INCASE YOU DIDN'T GET TO SEE IT WE'LL SHOW YOU TWO MINUTES BUT THIS IS THE -- PUBLIC SAFETY VIDEO THAT WE DID

IN COLLABORATION WITH GISD. >> I'M WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WE WANT TO SHARE A MESSAGE WITH FAMILY AND STUDENTS ABOUT AFTER-SCHOOL ACTIVITY AT THE ROWLETT PUBLIC LIBRARY AND APARTMENTS. THE LIBRARY IS A PLACE WHERE STUDENTS TO UNWIND, READ AND MANY STUDENTS USE THIS SPACE DISRESPECTFULLY RECENTLY, THOUGH, THERE HAVE BEEN DISRUPTIONS AND IN THE LIBRARY AREA, AND ON THE PROPERTY.

THESE INCIDENTS CREATE SAFETY CONCERNS FOR STUDENTS, STAFF, RESIDENTS, AND FAMILIES. TO KEEP EVERYONE SAFE, OFFICERS WILL BE PRESENT AFTER SCHOOL AND ADDRESS ANY DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR IF NEEDED. DISORDERLY CONDUCT INCLUDES STEALING, REFUSING TO FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS, DAMAGING PROPERTY, FIGHTING OR ACTIONS THAT MAKE OTHERS FEEL UNSAFE.

PARENTS SHOULD KNOW THAT DISORDERLY CONDUCT IS A CRIMINAL OFFENSE AND DEFINED AS 381 DOLLARS.

WHEN NEEDED CRIMINAL TRESPASS WILL BE ISSUED AND RETURNING AFTER A WARNING CAN LEAD TO AN ARREST OR POSSIBLY A MISDEMEANOR. THE VILLAGE OF THE PROPERTY IS PRIVATE FOR RESIDENTS AND APPROVED GUESTS.

CONFLICT SERVE AS LEGAL NOTICE THAT NOT ALLOWED WITHOUT

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WHEN WE WORK TOGETHER AS FAMILIES, SCHOOLS, RESIDENTS AND OFFICERS, WE CREATE A SAFER ENVIRONMENT FOR EVERYONE.

THANK YOU FOR PART THEY ARING WITH US TO SUPPORT OUR YOUTH AND

OUR COMMUNITY. >> ALL RIGHT.

SO THE NEXT PART JUST PUT THIS MAP UP HERE TO GIVE CONTEXT TO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TAKES OUR CRIME SPECIFICALLY IS BY GRIDS.

SO THE WAY THAT ORDINANCE DEFINED DOWNTOWN AREAS DIFFERENT THAN OUR GRID THAT WE DEFINE AS DOWNTOWN SO THIS WILL MAKE MORE SENSE WHEN I SHOW YOU STATS BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THAT. WHAT I'LL DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO FIRST IS CHART ON UPPER RIGHT WHAT THIS DEPICTS IS OVER THE COURSE OF THE SCHOOL YEAR STARTING IN AUGUST OF 2025, THESE ARE AMOUNT OF INCIDENTS THAT WE HAD SPECIFIC TO THOSE ON THE LEFT FIGHTS ASSAULTS, DISTURBANCES, SPECIFICALLY THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO IMPACT HERE IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN AUGUST, SCHOOL KICKS OFF AND RIGHT AWAY IN SEPTEMBER WE SEE THAT JUMP MORE THAN DOUBLE AMOUNT OF INCIDENTS THAT WE HAD AND I BELIEVE THAT NUMBER IS TEN IN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER.

SO WHEN WE PUT OUR PLAN TOGETHER, IT WAS IN OCTOBER AND ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS OF THAT WAS THIS VIDEO THAT YOU SAW AND ADDING SECOND OFFICER WITH OUR SDBG GRANT AND IMMEDIATELY IN NOVEMBER, IT -- JUMPED IT JUMPED DOWN IMMEDIATELY. I FORGET HOW TO USE THIS REMOTE.

THERE WE GO. YOU SEE THAT IMMEDIATELY WE DROPPED, AND WE WERE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT WITH THIS EXTRA PRESENCE WHERE THE INCIDENTS HAVE STAYED DOWN ALL THE WAY TO CURRENT SO WE'VE GOT A REALLY GOOD GRASP ON, YOU KNOW, THE -- THE ISSUES THAT WE WERE EXPERIENCING -- DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY. THE BOTTOM CHART HERE, THIS IS GOING TO BE FOR PROACTIVE ENFORCEMENT SAME THING BY MONTH SO WHEN WE STARTED OUT PROACTIVITY WAS -- ROUGHLY AROUND 20 OR SO PROACTIVE WE'RE TALKING TRAFFIC STOPS PATROLS ANYTHING THAT OFFICERS DO THAT IS NOT WHAT THEY'RE BEING DISPATCHED TO. SO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, GRID PATROLS, ET CETERA. AND WHEN WE PUT THIS PLAN IN PLACE, IN OCTOBER, YOU SEE THAT THE DRASTIC INCREASE IN OUR PROACTIVITY PARTICULARLY IN DECEMBER WHEN WE HAD THE ICE RINK AND OTHER THINGS GOING ON ALSO A DIRECT RESULT OF OPERATION SAFE HOLIDAYS. WHICH IS AS YOU KNOW OUR ALL HANDLE ON DECK APPROACH TO INCREASING ENFORCEMENT AND ACTIVITY DURING THE HOLIDAYS. AND SINCE THEN WE'VE HAD A DROP IN JANUARY DUE TO SOME WEATHER THAT WE WERE EXPERIENCING, WHICH IS NOT SURPRISING. BUT WE WERE ABLE TO KEEP THAT PROACTIVITY HIGH AS WE MOVE ALONG IN THE YEAR.

ALL RIGHT SO WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT GRID 115, REALLY START FROM THE TIME FRAME OF NOVEMBER THROUGH END OF APRIL, WE MADE A TOTAL OF 21 ARRESTS, 138 CITATION AND FIVE CRIMINAL TRESPASS WARNINGS THAT'S ALL ARRESTS AND ALL CITATIONS NOT SPECIFICALLY NOT HOW MANY WE ARRESTED FROM THE LIBRARY.

BUT THE CRIMINAL TRESPASSES WARNINGS ARE A DIRECT RESULT OF CRIMINAL TRESPASS AT THE VILLAGE APARTMENT AND FROM THE LIBRARY, AND WE HAD THREE SEPARATE INSTANCE WHERE IS JUVENILES WERE ABLE TO JUMP THE GATE AND GET INSIDE THE VILLAGE AND FOR SOME REASON THEY GO RIGHT FOR THE FIRE EXTINGUISHER AND ONE OF THE INSTANCES THEY CAUSED $10,000 IN DAMAGE.

SO THIS IS WHEN WE HAD THE MEETING WITH APARTMENT MANAGEMENT, AND WE HAVE AN UPDATE ACTUALLY ON THE CRIMINAL

INVESTIGATION ON THOSE. >> YES.

SO THERE WERE IN ADDITION TO THE THREE TALKED ABOUT THERE WAS ALSO A BLAST OR A WINDOW THAT GOT BROKEN WE KNOW SUSPECTS BUT THE OTHER THREE OFFENSES -- THE SUSPECTS WERE IDENTIFIED EITHER HAVE BEEN CHARGED ORB TO BE CHARGED.

AND THAT WAS DUE TO THE HARD WORK OF OUR SRO BECAUSE THEY'RE DIALED IN TO THE JUVENILES AND THEY SEEM TO KNOW THEM ON SITE BECAUSE THEY WORK IN THE SCHOOL AND THEY KNOW INS AND OUTS WITH THEIR HELP CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION DIVISION IS MOVING FORWARD WITH CRIMINAL CHARGES IN ALL FOUR OF THOSE INSTANCES WERE THE SAME JUVENILES SO THEY'VE BEEN ARRESTED, IN FACT, ONE OF THEM THEIR PARENTS ARE BRINGING THEM TO TURN IN TOMORROW RELATED TO ONE OF THE INSTANCES. AND AT THE BOTTOM THERE IS OUR

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SINCE THEIR DEPLOYMENT NOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE 151 HOMELESS PEOPLE THESE ARE MULTIPARKING LOT CONTACTS WITH SOME OF THE SAME PEOPLE. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF E-MAILS FROM THE CITY MANAGER, FROM OTHERS ASKING ABOUT HOMELESS ACTIVITY. AND EACH AND EVERY TIME I'VE SENT THIS OUT THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF THE SAME PEOPLE.

AND WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THEY'RE PROVIDING THEM RESOURCES THEY'RE PROVIDING THEM OPTIONS FOR HOUSING, FOR -- BE IT JOB OPPORTUNITIES AND FOOD SO THEY'RE ACTIVE WITH HOMELESS POPULATION AND GIVEN 19 ORDINANCE VIOLATIONS, IN

ADDITION TO THAT? >> SO I REALLY THINK THE CHIEF OFFICE HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE PUBLIC IS WELL AWARE OF THIS UNIT. YOU KNOW, THAT THEY PROBABLY OUGHT TO RECOGNIZE THEM LIKE I SAID BECAUSE THEY'RE OPERATING IN A WHITE TAHOE UNLIKE THE REST OF OUR FLEET BUT WE HAVE A VIDEO WITH THE COMMUNICATION TEAM AND LEAK TO ROLL THAT OUT ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM BUT THE ÚCITY SIDE AND MORE OR LESS GET THE WORD OUT ON WHO THE TEAM IS. THAT THEY CAN BE CONTACTED, WHAT THEY'RE THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, AND I'M ALL FOR PUTTING THE STATS UP THERE TO SHOWCASE EXACTLY WHAT THEY'VE BEEN UP TO.

>> CHIEF, SO ALSO, THOSE RPT PATROL THE DARK PARKING LOT, OR IS THAT -- IS THERE OVERLAP OR HOW DO Y'ALL -- HOW IS THAT ADMINISTERED?

>> YEAH SO WE DO PATROL THE DARK PARKING LOT.

IT'S THE FIRST AGENCY THAT RESPONDS TO ANY INSTANCES THEY

HAVE THERE. >> OKAY.

>> WE'RE NOT PATROLLING IT LIKE WE WERE IN -- FROM THE DARK FUNDING THAT WAS PROVIDED FOR PARKING ENFORCEMENT BUT FROM GRID PATROLS AND JUST GENERAL PATROLS, THAT THEY'RE

ACTIVE IN THAT. >> A DIFFERENT GRID THAN THE --

THAT WAS IN ONE -- >> I BELIEVE IT'S ONE GRID

ABOVE. >> YEAH.

116 JUST ABOVE THAT. >> SO WITH THOSE ORDINANCE VIOLATIONS, LIKE STANDING AND MEETING OR -- OR IS THAT PART OF THE ORDINANCE VIOLATION?

>> SLEEPING IN PUBLIC. COULD BE RELATED TO THAT.

VIOLATIONS -- >> SEEN IMPROVEMENT SINCE WE'VE CHANGED THAT ORDINANCE PUTTING A SIGN?

>> MEDIUMS -- YEAH.

I THINK SO. MOST OF THOSE ARE THROUGH WARNINGS. THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, MOVE ALONG.

WE HAVEN'T HAD LIKE I'VE HEARD ANYWAY THE SAME INDIVIDUALS THAT JUST REFUSE TO MOVE OUT OF THE MEDIA AND THEN ARREST THEM OR CITE THEM BUT I KNOW THAT WE'VE LOOKED INTO THAT.

MADE LOTS OF CONTACTS OF THOSE, AND MOVED PEOPLE ALONG OFTENTIMES THEY'VE FIGURED OUT NOW AND THEY GO ACROSS WHERE THEY'RE NOT IN THE MEETING OFF TO THE SIDE.

>> I'VE CALLED IN A BUNCH MYSELF ON THE WAY TO WORK.

JUST GO OUT AND MAKE CONTACT AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE SAFE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY GETTING HIT IN THAT MEDIAN AND

DISTRACTING DRIVERS. >> REPEAT OFFENDERS OR --

>> YEAH IT'S NOT ALL -- WE DON'T HAVE A HEAD COUNT OF 1R50 -- 151 SYRINGES -- INDIVIDUALS BUT MULTIPLE WITH THE SAME INDIVIDUAL.

SO -- YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY RESULT FROM A CALL. OFFICERS WERE DISPATCHED OR SOMEBODY THAT MIGHT BE OUR CORE UNIT CHECKING OUT ON THEIR WELFARE IF THEY'RE LAYING DOWN SOMEWHERE AND MAKING THAT CONTACT IS TO FIGURE OUT HEY WHAT'S GOING ON? HOW ARE YOU DOING THESE ARE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE. AND YOU'VE HEARD IT SAID BEFORE TO BE UNHOUSED IS NOT ILLEGAL. THERE ARE SOME CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES THAT OFTEN GO ALONG WITH THAT.

MENTAL HEALTH CONCERNS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRAINED TO DO IS TAKE THE APPROPRIATE ACTION SOMETIMES IT IS NO ACTION AT ALL.

SOMETIMES IT IS SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE APPROPRIATE THAN

DOING NOTHING. >> GREAT.

NEXT PART IS GOING TO BE WHAT I MENTIONED IS THE CLEANING UP OF THE ORDINANCE OF MODERNIZE OUR ORDINANCE BASICALLY WE'RE GOING

TALK ABOUT THAT. >> OKAY SO THIS IS PART TWO OF WHAT WE WANTED TO DISCUSS THIS EVENING.

CHAPTER 34 IN MISCELLANEOUS OFFENSES, GOVERNS OUR RESPONSE TO LOITERING AND DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

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SO LIKE CHIEF WAS SAYING, THE DOWNTOWN AREA IS COMPOSED OF A VERY SMALL TRIANGLE RECTANGLE GEOMETRY AS A KID -- AS A RECTANGLE. SO THIS WOULD MORE OR LESS IS THE FOOTPRINT OF THE CITY CONTINUES TO EXPAND, DOWNTOWN YORE DOESN'T ENCOMPASS NECESSARILY ALL SAFE FACILITIES WILL BE HOUSED WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NEW MUNICIPALITY COMPLEX I HIGHLY DOUBT IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA SO THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE IS THE CITY GROWS AND CONTINUES TO EXPAND DIFFERENT FACILITIES, PROPERTIES THAT ARE OWN AND OPERATED BY THE CITY WOULD BE LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE CITY NOT JUST IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA HENCE WHICH IS WHY WE'RE STANDING BEFORE YOU TO TALK ABOUT AN UPGRADE. CURRENT DEFINITION OF A PUBLIC PLACE INCLUDES ANY PLACE TO WHICH THE PUBLIC OR SUBSTANTIAL GROUP OF THE PUBLIC HAS ACCESS INCLUDES BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO STREETS, HIGHWAYS, AND THE COMMON AREAS OF SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS, APARTMENT HOUSES, OFFICE BUILDINGS, TRANSPRT FACILITIES AND SHOPS VERY ENCOMPASSES BUT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING REVISION THAT WOULD ADD TOE THAT BY ADDING BUILDINGS OR OTHER FACILITIES OWNED, HELD CONTROLLED OR OPERATED BY THE CITY OF ROWLETT TO EXPAND THAT DEFINITION.

>> WE WERE WORKING ON THIS ORDINANCE UPDATE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY ONE QUESTION IS WILL THAT APPLY TO THE LIBRARY SINCE IT IS NOT CITY OWNED BUT IT DOES BECAUSE IT IS A CITY OPERATED FACILITY. ALL RIGHT SO FOR SECTION 34-4 DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR THE COURT CURRENT ORDINANCE LIMITS LOITERING AND DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA, BY DEFINING THAT AS IF A PERSON ALONG OR CONCERT WITH OTHERS INTENTIONALLY OR KNOWINGLY ENGAGE IN DISRUPTIVE ACTIVITY ON PROPERTY OWNED OR HELD BY THE CITY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND INCLUDES ALL CITY OWNED OR CONTROLLED LAND, AND FACILITIES IN DOWNTOWN ROWLETT THE DEFINITION OF DOWNTOWN, FOR EITHER FAIRLY NEW TO THE CITY SO I HAD TO EDUCATE MYSELF ON THIS ONE. BASICALLY, FROM THE DARK LINE TO THE NORTH, ROWLETT ROAD ON THE EAST SKYLINE ON THE WEST AND NORTH OF DENNIS MAKES THIS RECTANGLE PROPOSED REVISION WILL SCAN THAT SCOPE TO CITY ALL CITY HELD OR CONTROLLED LAND FACILITIES WITHIN THE CITY OF ROWLETT CORPORATE BOUNDARY BASICALLY SAYS YES, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE WHAT WE HAVE APPLIED TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND APPLY IT TO ALL 22 SQURE MILES.

OKAY. SO PRETTY MUCH CONCLUDES THERE'S NO FINANCIAL OR BUDGET IMPLICATIONS ON THIS.

AND REALLY THIS WAS JUST FOR DISCUSSION WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU A GOOD OVERVIEW OF THE LAST NINE MONTHS WE REALLY TRYING TO -- WHAT I THINK IS IMPACT IN A POSITIVE WAY KIND OF A PROBLEM THAT WE'VE HAD NOW FOR TWO OR THREE YEARS AND WEEKS WITH THE DISRUPTIONS IN DOWNTOWN AREA. ONE THING THAT WE DID NOT MENTION WITH THE SECOND OFFICER ONE THE COOL THINGS THEY'RE ABLE TO DO ESPECIALLY ON FRIDAYS WHEN THERE'S ONLY ONE OR TWO STAFF MEMBERS IN CITY HALL IS RIGHT AT 5:30 WHEN THEY FINISH THEIR TOUR OF DUTY IF YOU WILL AS THEY COME IN HERE AND CLEAR THE BUILDING, CHECK THE BATHROOM MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO UNHOUSED INDIVIDUALS THAT MADE THEIR WAY INTO THE BATHROOM SO WE DON'T LOCK THEM IN THERE AT NIGHT. SO THEY'VE BEEN DOING THAT DAILY. AND THAT'S I THINK BEEN A WELCOMED SAFETY ASPECT FOR THIS STAFF.

>> ONE OTHER THING I'LL ADD REAL QUICK WE TALKED ABOUT BACK ON THE NUMBER OF OFFICER AND BACK TO ONE BUT WE WERE MET WITH RESISTANCE BY THE SRO LEADERSHIP TEAM.

THEIR PHILOSOPHY -- IN A GOOD WAY THAT WE'VE MADE HEADWAY ON THIS. THE COMPLAINTS HAVE DRAMATICALLY REDUCED WHY WOULD WE STOP A GOOD THING? SO WE'VE KEPT WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO EVALUATE IT FROM A STAFFING STAND POINT BUT IT'S A GOOD THING APPEARS TO BE WORKING AND WE WANT TO MAINTAIN

THAT POSITIVE ENERGY. >> THAT IS ALL WE HAVE ANY

QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU BOTH.

REALLY GOOD PRESENTATION WITH REALLY GOOD INFORMATION.

>> JUST MIDDLE SCHOOL HAVE AN ASO AS WELL AS AN SRO ONLY?

>> MIDDLE SCHOOL -- TWO --

YES. >> SO WHEN SCHOOL RELEASES DO BOTH SRO STAY ON CAMPUS OR ONE ROGEN MOVE THROUGH THE GROUP

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THAT LEAVES THE SCHOOL? >> IT IS NOT NECESSARILY THE SRO THAT IS ASSIGNED TO COIL TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA IT IS GOING VARY, IT CAN BE A COIL SRO BUT NOT ALWAYS A COIL SRO.

>> OFTENTIMES, IT WORKS OUT BETTER THEY STAY AT THE CAMPUS THAN ADDRESS ANY AFTER-SCHOOL NEEDS.

AND THEN WE ROTATE OVER OFTENTIMES -- OVER HERE, HE WAS OUT THERE TODAY.

>> SEE EVERY DAY -- >> YEAH.

SO THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION TO HAVE, AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED LIKE OFFICERS GET TORN THE TO KNOW THE KIDS THAT IS A BIG PIECE OF THIS WHEN THEY HAVE THE RELATIONSHIP THEY'RE MORE RESPECTFUL OF THAT RELATIONSHIP WHICH I THINK IS BENEFICIAL.

I'M GLAD THERE'S TWO OVER THERE I'M CERTAIN WE'RE IN COMMUNICATION ALL OF THE TIME ABOUT THE PROBLEM CHILDREN -- THAT, YOU KNOW, WERE MONITORING THAT BOTH ON CAMPUS AS WELL AS OFFCAMPUS TOGETHER. SO -- I APPRECIATE THAT THE ORDINANCE IS CHANGING TO KIND OF COVER THE WHOLE CITY. I'M LOOKING AT 34-3 WHICH IS THE LOITERS PANHANDLING AND SLEEPING IN PUBLIC AND THIS ALMOST SEEMS TO DUCK TAIL INTO IT HAS VECTOR YA REVIEWED THIS ORDINANCE AND I GUESS VICTORIA ASK YOU THIS QUESTION HAVE YOU REVIEWED TO THIS ORDINANCE AND DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO JUST EXPAND 34-3 SINCE BOTH 34-3, AND 34-4 IS ALL ENCOMPASSING WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN 34-3 WAS A CITY WIDE COVER ALL PARKS THINGS LIKE THAT.

34-4 WAS MORE NARROW AND COVERED DOWNTOWN, BUT KIND OF HELP ME WITH DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO DO IT THAT WAY OR ARE WE HAPPY WITH

HOW IT'S WRITTEN? >> HANG ON A SECOND LET ME LOOK

THROUGH 34-3 -- >> RIGHT.

[SILENCE] WHILE I DO THAT CHIEF LET ME ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION. YOU MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES ABOUT CRIMINAL TRESPASS, AND SO AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WITH MY HIGH SCHOOL LAW DEGREE -- [LAUGHTER] YOU CANNOT TRESPASS CRIMINALLY TRESPASS FROM A PUBLIC SPACE MEANING THEY CAN'T BE CRIMINALLY TRESPASSED FROM A LIBRARY OR AREA IN FRONT OF A LIBRARY -- VIOLATING RULES BEING DISRUPTIVE. BUT TO GO IN AND SIMPLY READ A BOOK YOU CANNOT SAY YOU WERE CRIMINALLY TRESPASSING.

>> BARRIER TO DOING THAT IS MUCH, MUCH HIGHER.

DID WE WORK WITH THE VILLAGE ON DETERMINING WHERE THE LINES OF RESPONSIBILITY ARE WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY OF THE SIDEWALK ALL OF THAT, OBVIOUSLY, FOLKS HAVE -- A RIGHT TO GET INTO THE LIBRARY WHICH IS A PUBLIC SPACE.

BUT DOES THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE SIDEWALK GO ALL THE WAY UP TO THE FRONT DOOR AND IS IT THAT WAY AROUND THE ENTIRE BUILDING MEANS ENFORCEMENT RESPONSIBILITY AROUND THE WHOLE EXTERIOR OF THE

FENCE? >> I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE I THINK BEYOND THE FENCE. I THINK THESE KIDS WERE LITERALLY JUMPING THE FENCE. WHICH IS PRIMA FACIE OF TRESPASSING AND THE SIDEWALK I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK IF THAT'S CONSIDERED VILLAGE APARTMENTS PROPERTY OR -- WITH THE BOUNDARY WOULD BE THERE.

I'M NOT SURE. >> PROBABLY --

>> SIDEWALK. SO I THINK WE NEED TO GET AN ANSWER ON THAT. BECAUSE THE PROPERTY MANAGER WITH THE VILLAGE E-MAILED SEVERAL OF US BACK ON MARCH SPECIFICALLY SAID I WILL APPRECIATE CLARIFICATION REGARDING THE EXACT BOUNDARY AND CITY PROPERTY VERSUS PROPERTY UNDER THE CITY OF ROWLETT AND IF THAT AREA IS, IN FACT, RESPONSIBILITY WE WOULD LIKE TO COORDINATE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT REGARDING ENFORCEMENT AND POTENTIAL CRIMINAL TRESPASS ACTIONS IF NECESSARY. SO THEY'RE DEFINITELY WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU ALL ON THAT. WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE THAT

CONNECTION. >> I REMEMBER THAT E-MAIL MAYOR AND AFTER THAT WE HAD SERVICES SET AT THE MEETING WITH MANAGEMENT AND TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THAT.

I'LL SEE WHAT GUIDANCE THEY GAVE THEM ON THAT.

AND FOLLOW BACK UP WITH YOU. >> OKAY.

PERFECT. I'M GLAD THAT WE'VE BEEN IN

COMMUNICATION. >> OKAY, SORRY.

>> SO -- 34-3 SECTION A DEALS WITH LAWYERING AND IT SAYS IN A PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION FACILITY, PUBLIC CAR, OR PUBLIC PLACE. SO ANY PUBLIC PLACE WITHIN THE CITY. JUST, YOU KNOW, ALL ENCOMPASSES.

B, IT IS KIND OF FOLLOWING STATE LAW AS FAR AS WITHIN 50 FEET OF AUTOMATED TELLER MACHINE, BANKS, GAS PUMPS, ET CETERA.

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AND AGAIN, PUBLIC PLACE IS FAIRLY, YOU KNOW, LARGE ENCOMPASSING TERM. I WILL SAY THAT I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE UNLESS WE WERE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AS FAR AS THIS

SLEEPING IN PUBLIC -- >> OKAY.

DOES IT MAKE SENSE THEN TO KEEP 34-4 SEPARATELY OR BE INTEGRATED INTO 34-3 SINCE IT IS DISRUPTIVE ACTIVITY IS WHAT 34-4 IS ABOUT.

>> DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR IS A SEPARATE OFFENSE FROM LOITERING.

IS MY -- >> THAT'S WHY IT IS TWO SEPARATE SECTIONS. OKAY THAT'S REALLY -- THAT CLEARS UP MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT ALSO BECAUSE IT IS NOT REALLY REFERENCED IN THE PRESENTATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT IT'S SUPERDO YOU MEAN IMPORTANT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT QUOTE UNQUOTE DISRUPTIVE ACTIVITY AND ANY KIND OF PUBLIC SPACE THAT CAN TRAMPLE OVER THE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS AND THERE'S A PARAGRAPH IN 34-4C THAT SAYS THIS SECTION MAY NOT BE INFRINGED UPON EXPRESSION BIT CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OR OF THIS STATE. SO THE RIGHT TO ASSEMBLE THINGS LIKE THAT, OBVIOUSLY, TRUMP ANY WORDS WE'RE GOING TO PASS HERE.

BUT IT'S ACKNOWLEDGED IN THE ORDINANCE IF THAT'S THE CASE AS

WELL. >> THAT'S ALL OF THE QUESTIONS OF. DOWN COUNCIL OTHER QUESTIONS OR

COMMENTS? >> NO, SAY THANK YOU TO OFFICER, AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR FINDING WAY TO LET THE KIDS BE AS A KID BUT MAINTAINING OUR DOWNTOWN AREA SO I APPRECIATE THE ORDINANCE AND MEETING. THANK YOU.

THAWNCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> I THINK BE BENEFICIAL TO SHARE ABOUT THE CORE TEAM.

>> WE'VE HAD IN PARTICULAR DOWNTOWN OWNERS THAT HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE UNHOUSED POPULATION WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

MORE YOU CAN COMMUNICATE THAT TEAM EXIST FOR HELPING TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS IT WILL GO A LONG WAY.

>> TO THAT POINT TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS FAIRLY RECENTLY ONE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN WE HAD ONE AT WAS IT TOLLER? THE COVE AND IN THEIR LIRM AND WE BROUGHT THE CORE UNIT TO ADDRESS SORT OF GET PEOPLE USED TO SEEING WHO THESE OFFICERS ARE AND IT'S BEEN VERY WELL RECEIVED.

PEOPLE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE THAT WE'VE DEDICATED RESOURCES

TO THIS. >> COUNCIL MEETING, LET'S GO --

[LAUGHTER] >> ALL RIGHT THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT. >> ALL RIGHT NEXT WE'LL MOVE ON

[3.B. Discussion regarding a request from Sensory Tent Pals for a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU), including consideration of potential funding options should City Council choose to do so.]

AND THIS ITEM IS BROUGHT FORTH BY MR. REEVES AND MR. BOWERS AND SO GENTLEMEN WOULD YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE THE ITEM?

>> SURE I'LL INTRODUCE IT AND THANK YOU COUNCIL BOWERS FOR SECONDING THIS. YOU KNOW, I'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF E-MAILS AND CALLS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS FROM PARENTS THAT HAVE KIDS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL NEEDS, AND THAT'S ONE AREA THAT MOST CITIES DO NOT ADDRESS AT ALL.

AND WE HAVE A LOT OF CITY EVENTS HERE.

WE REALLY STRIVE TO DO A GOOD JOB, IN EVENTS AND GETTING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND WHEN YOU'VE GOT SOMEONE YOU'RE A FAN OF WITH A DEVELOPPAL DISORDER THAT CAN REALLY BE AN ISOLATING THING FOR YOUR FAMILY AND FOR YOUR LIFE.

AND SO WHAT CENTURY HOUSE DOES IS I THINK IS A TREMENDOUS SERVICE FOR THE CITY AND FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

AND ALSO I THINK IT'S GROUNDBREAKING BECAUSE I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER CITIES ADDRESSING THIS AT ALL IN ANY OTHER EVENTS SO I SEE THIS AS A TWOFOLD THING FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL TO CONSIDER AND I'M SO GLAD THAT MIRANDA IS DOING THIS IS IT IS NUMBER ONE, WE'RE MEETING NEEDS OF PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

TO BE ABLE TO GET THEM TO WHERE THEY HAVE A SAFE PLACE WHERE THEY CAN GO AND ENJOY SOMETHING THAT ALL OF OUR FREANDZ NEIGHBORS ENJOY WHEN THEY HAVE SOMEONE IN THEIR FAMILY WITH A DEVELOPMENTAL NEED SECONDLY BECAUSE WE ARE IN MANY REGARDS GROUNDBREAKING IN ASSUMING THE FOUR WITH MLU WITH THIS WE'RE AT

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SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF WINS HERE, SO BECAUSE OF THAT, MIRANDA AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING REALLY OVER THE LAST SINCE THE LAST BUDGET YEAR THE GRADUATE PROCESS LAST YEAR.

AND SINCE WE GOT RID OF THE GRANT PROGRAM WHICH I VOTED FOR I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD THING. I THINK THAT MLU PROCESSES A MUCH MORE -- GOOD WAY TO LOOK AT THESE BUDGET ITEMS IN A SYSTEMIC FASHION AND GET POLICIES BUT I BELIEVE GETTING GREAT CONSIDERATION FOR A FORMALIZED TO PALS WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD THING FOR CITY OF ROWLETT AND SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT THAT ON THE AGENDA BEFORE COUNCIL SO THAT'S THE REASON I BROUGHT THAT UP AND UNLESS COUNCILMAN BOWERS HAS I

WOULD SAY MIRANDA TAKE IT AWAY. >> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.

COUNCIL -- I AM MIRANDA, I AM THE FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT OF CENTURY HOUSE LOCAL ROWLETT 503 NONPROFIT.

AND I'M ALSO A ROWLETT RESIDENT IN THE PARENT OF CHILDREN WITH AUTISM. AND BEFORE I GET INTO ANY KIND OF DISCUSSION TOPIC THAT I WANT TO GIVE COUNCIL A QUICK PICTURE OF WHERE THE PROGRAM ACTUALLY CAME FROM.

BECAUSE I THINK IT MATTERS. THAT WE CAN BELIEVE THE CITY OF ROWLETT HAS HAD KIND OF A FOUNDATIONAL STANDING WITH SENSORY FROM THE CONCEPTION OF THE IDEA.

IT WAS -- THE IDEA OF THE PROGRAM STARTED A FEW YEARS AGO WHILE I WAS ON COMMISSION WITH THE CITY.

AND WHEN THAT COMMISSION EXPIRED, YOU KNOW, I KNEW THAT MY WORK WITH THAT PROGRAM WASN'T COMPLETE.

SO THAT IS WHEN THE NONPROFIT WAS CREATED.

I PERSONALLY INVESTED THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WITH THE HELP OF A LOT OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT TO GET THAT NONPROFIT OFF THE GROUND.

AND LAST YEAR, THE CITY DID AWARD US WITH THE COMMUNITY SERVICES GRANT TO ESTABLISH THE PROGRAM OF A MOBILE SENSORY UNIT TO TRANSITION AND EXPAND OUR PROGRAM.

WE DID PURCHASE A 36-FOOT RV WHICH WE DID PRESENT TO COUNCIL TO OPEN UP THE ACCESSIBILITY TO GIVE US MORE SPACE, GIVES US ACCOMMODATION TO IMMEDIATE NEEDS SUCH AS HAND WASHING AND, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE THINGS IT CAN BE DRIVEN TO ALL OF THOSE THINGS. AND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE GRADUATE PROGRAM DID CONCLUDE, I FELT LIKE THIS WAS A GREAT TIME TO PRESENT THE IDEA TO ESTABLISH A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF ROWLETT. LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER REEVES SAID ROWLETT DOES REALLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO BE THE FIRST CITY HONESTLY NCSW, KANSAS CITY DOES HAVE SOME PARTNERSHIP WITH A NONPROFIT UP THERE. BUT THERE IS NOT ANY CITIES IN DFW THAT I'M AWARE OF AND I'M IN THIS SPACE QUITE A BIT THAT HAS A SPECIFIC SENSORY UNIT THAT CAN BE DEPLOYABLE TO THEIR CITY IF THAT MAKES SENSE, RIGHT? AND LIKE CONGRESS MEMBER REEVES SAID WHEN WE DEPLOY TO EVENT IT IS NOT A MATTER OF WILL THEY COME? IT IS A MATTER OF THEY DO COME.

EVERY SINGLE TIME WE'RE AT AN EVENT, WE ALMOST EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT ENTERS INTO OUR SPACE HAS SAID WE CAME BECAUSE YOU ARE HERE. AS A MOM OF A CHILD WITH AUTISM, MYSELF, WE HAVE TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT EVENTS WE GO TO.

IS IT SAFE? IS IT ESCAPABLE? IS IT ACCOMMODATING THOSE KIND OF THINGS AND THERE ARE A LOT OF EVENTS THAT WE JUST CAN'T GO TO BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO I DO -- LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER REEVES SAYS I WANT TO OPEN THIS DISCUSSION TO LOOK AT WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE TO HELP KIND OF INTEGRATE

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>> COUNCIL WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE?

IN TO COALESCE -- >>[INAUDIBLE]

>> SURE SO WHEN WE ORIGINALLY DID THE GRANT, IT WAS -- WE PRESENTED THREE OPTIONS, RIGHT? VERY MINIMAL TO LET'S GO BIG OR GO HOME.

AND THE -- THE ORIGINAL GRANT PROPOSAL WAS FOR A 14-FOOT TRAILER. THE 14-FOOT TRAILER HAD DIFFERENT INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS OPERATIONAL COSTS, YOU KNOW, IT'S CHEAPER TO BRAND A 14-FOOT TRAILER THAN A 34-POOT 34-POOT -- FOOT RV SO THESE THINGS WERE MISSED FROM A TRAILER TO AN RV. SO THE TRANSPARENCY, THE FUNDING REQUEST IS FOR A ONE-TIME, FIRST YEAR FUNDING OF APPROXIMATELY ANOTHER 30,000 WITH A 12,000 ANNUAL REPEATING FUNDING AFTER THAT. SO KIND OF LIKE HAS I THINK A 40,000 ANNUAL REOCCURRING. WE ARE SEEKING 30,000 FOR LIKE THE FIRST YEAR PLUS 12,000 FOR OUR OFFER AND SUSTAINMENT AND ALL OF THAT. AND THEN AFTER THAT, 12,000 A YEAR. ONGOING AS LONG AS OUR PARTNERSHIP IS THERE. YES.

>> CURIOSITY SINCE WE AFFORD GRADUATE HOW MANY EVENTS HAVE WE

ATTENDED SO FAR? >> ACTUAL RV HAS NOT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DEPLOYING YET BUT NEXT MONTH IN JUNE.

THE EASTER EVENT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE FIRST ONE.

AND THAT ONE GOT CANCELED. AND THEN AS FAR AS OTHER EVENTS, WE AGAIN, THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WANT -- I WOULD LOVE TO DISCUSS AN MOU SO WE CAN BE INCLUDED IN THE CADENCE OF SCHEDULING OF EVENTS, RIGHT? RIGHT NOW THE WAY THAT EVENTS ARE SET UP, THERE'S NOT A EVENT IN THE APPLICATION FOR A NONPROFIT ANYMORE.

SO I CAN'T JUST GO ON TO EVENT AND APPLY TO THE VENDER AT THE MAY THING. AT THE MAY MAIN STREET ITEM.

AND I KNOW THAT I HAVE LAST YEAR I DID TALK TO I WANT TO SAY PAM ABOUT THAT AND THEY WERE LOOKING INTO IT.

I JUST HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY FEEDBACK ABOUT THAT, HOWEVER, WITH THE RV IT IS GOING TO BE DEPLOYED NEXT MONTH IN JUNE.

WHICH IT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR JULY 4TH.

SO THAT WILL BE OUR JULY 4TH IT WILL BE OUR FIRST CITY-WIDE EVENT, AND THEN ANY EVENT THAT MAKES SENSE, RIGHT? I DON'T THINK A SENSORY TENT PALS WOULD BE NECESSARILY BENEFICIAL TO A MEMORIAL DAY EVENT, RIGHT? BUT DEFINITELY LIKE MAIN STREET MAY THINGS AND FARMERS MARKETS

THINGS LIKE THAT. >> CAN I JUMP IN?

>> YEAH. >> SO WHEN WE DID LIKE THE FARMERS MARKET AND ALL OF THE FRIDAY NIGHT STUFF AND THE FALL AND SPRING, THERE WAS A POLICY CHANGE MADE THAT NONPROFITS COULD ONLY BE A PART OF THAT THAT WAS AFTER WE GRANTED THE MONEY, AND THE GRADUATE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANY STRINGS IF I RECALL IN TERMS OF REAL DIRECT EVENT LIKE YOU KNOW SORT OF LIKE BALLPARK HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO BUT THE GRANT PROGRAM DOESN'T PROVIDE A MECHANISM TO HAVE A CADENCE, BUT WITH YOU IN MIND HERE ARE THE EVENTS THAT MAKE SENSE PRETTY MUCH ANY OUTDOOR EVENT. SO MAYBE NOT MEMORIAL DAY.

WITH A CROWD MAY NOT HAVE A LOT OF KIDS BY FARMERS MARKETS, JULY 4TH, FRIDAY NIGHT LIVE STUFF THAT WE DO.

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SO I THINK THAT'S A STRONGER PROGRAM THAN THE GRANT WHICH PARTLY WHY I THINK THE GRANT PROGRAM THAT WAS A GOOD THING FOR THE CITY. BUT BECAUSE IT DOES PROVIDE SUCH A -- IMPORTANT SERVICE FOR OUR RESIDENTS, THAT'S WHY I WOULDN'T BRING THIS UP TO CONSIDER THAT FOR THE FUNDING. OTHER THING THAT MIRANDA MENTIONED WAS JUST SO THE REQUIREMENTS THAT UMBRELLA HAS FOR INSURANCE WAS MORE EXPENSIVE FOR RV VERSUS A TRAILER SO THERE'S OPERATING EXPENSES THAT INCREASED FOR THE SERVICE.

SO I KNOW THERE'S A TON OF BUDGET CONSIDERATIONS AND Y'ALL I SAY Y'ALL -- I SAY THAT SORT OF HAPPY THAT I WON'T BE A PART OF THAT. BUDGET THERE'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL BE LOOKING AT AFISCAL YEAR 2027 BUDGET AND A LOT OF DECISIONS SO BEFORE YOU GOT THERE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS AT LEAST ON YOUR MIND AS YOU GO INTO BUDGET THROUGH THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL, FUTURE COUNCIL WANTS TO PUT ON THE BUDGET.

I THINK IT IS WORTHY ESPECIALLY WORTHY TO CONSIDER.

I WOULD WORK IT IF I WAS ON COUNCIL.

BUT CERTAINLY THAT'S GOING TO BE Y'ALL'S CALL TO MAKE, AND I JUST THINK AGAIN THERE'S A WIN/WIN HERE FOR RESIDENTS AND ALSO ELEMENT THAT WE CAN ADVERTISE AROUND AS WELL.

ONE OTHER THING IF I CAN MENTION MIRANDA STEALING YOUR THUNDER.

>> NO DOING A GREAT JOB. >> MY WIFE IS A SPEECH PATHOLOGIST SHE RAN A PROGRAM FOR KIDS WITH AUTISM.

AND WE -- A WHILE BACK AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SHE ALWAYS SAID WAS THESE FAMILIES GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER AND THEY HAVE THEIR GROUPS FACEBOOK GROUPS AND WORD OF MOUTH. BUT THAT WILL SPREAD FOR THE CITY FOR EVENTS. SECOND FOLD, MIRANDA YOU MENTIONED ON THE PHONE WHEN WE TALK THROUGH THIS, AS FAR AS THE BRANDING GOES YOU NEED TO BE WILLING TO BRAND THAT AS --

>> UMBRELLA, SO LEAVE IMPLICATIONS WITH THAT, BUT JUST FROM A BRANDING PERSPECTIVE I THINK THERE WILL BE SOME POSITIVE THINKING IN THAT AS WELL.

AGAIN I LOOK AT THIS AS A WIN/WIN THERE'S A BUDGET CONSIDERATION. AGAIN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT BUDGET REQUIREMENTS AND NEEDS AND I THINK GOING INTO THE NEXT BUDGET THERE'S GOING TO BE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST.

BUT I WANT IT TO BE ON YOUR RADAR TO CONSIDER GOING FORWARD.

>> I THOUGHT ABOUT A WHILE AGO -- I KNOW SHE HAS TO HAVE INSURANCE ON IT.

WHEN WE'RE ADVERTISING IT AS PART OF OUR EVENTS, ARE WE

LIABLE FOR ANY OF THAT? >> I WOULD SPONSOR BY -- YOU CAN SAY SUPPORTED IN PART BY SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> OH YEAH LIKE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH -- OR IN PARTNERSHIP. OR WHATEVER LANGUAGE I'M SORRY.

SO THAT, YOU KNOW, OTHER, YOU KNOW, IT'S KNOWN BY THE CITY OF ROWLETT AND SUPPORT. AND I THINK THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS DISCUSSION, RIGHT? IS TO DIRECT FOR THAT, THAT RESEARCH FOR WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

>> YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE ON ADDITIONAL LIABILITY --

>> [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE IF SOMETHING HAPPENS WE'RE BRINGING THEM TO THE EVENT AS PART OF THE EVENT, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE.

>> SO I KNOW LIKE RIGHT NOW WITH OUR GRANT, THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE, THEY'RE VERY SPECIFIC, VERY EXPENSIVE INSURANCE THAT WE HAVE TO HOLD. TO EVEN DRIVE ON TO THE CITY OF ROWLETT, AND I BELIEVE IN OUR CURRENT CONTRACT THAT THERE IS -- THERE IS SPECIFICALLY LANGUAGE THAT SENSORY WITH THEIR ENTITY AND THEY RELEASE CITY OF ROWLETT FOR ANY LIABILITY AND WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR OUR OWN PROGRAM AND ORGANIZATION BY OUR INSURANCE DEPARTMENT.

RIGHT? SO UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE

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THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF -- >> WHEN YOU SET UP AND YOU'RE DOING BUSINESS ARE YOU EXPECTED BY ANY STATE, I GUESS OFFICIALS OR ANYTHING TO GET YOU OPERATIONAL?

>> RIGHT, WHOLE ANY CERTAIN -- >> THE ONLY -- THE ONLY CERTIFICATION IS BEING COMPLIENGT WITH 501C NONPROFIT IRS, OUR OWN INSURANCE ENTITIES. THERE'S NOT LIKE IT IS NOT LIKE FOOD TRUCK WHERE I HAVE TO HOLD CERTAIN CERTIFICATION, THE VEHICLE HAS TO BE INSURED BECAUSE I CAN'T DRIVE WITHOUT INSURANCE. BUT THE VEHICLES INSPECTED, IT IS MAINTAINED, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, SO KIND OF IS THE SAME AS DRIVING A TRUCK AND USING IT LIKE NOT SELLING ICE CREAM I DON'T NEED A CITY PERMIT OR ANYTHING.

>> DO YOU HAVE PEOPLE TO WORK WITH YOU?

>> CURRENTLY I'M THE ONLY VOLUNTEER THAT RUN IT IS BUT WE HAVE INSURANCE FOR VOLUNTEERS VOLUNTEER -- BECAUSE WE'RE ABOUT TO START OUR VOLUNTEER PROGRAM AND WHATNOT.

>> WITH YOUR VOLUNTEERS OR EMPLOYEES WHATEVER YOU CALL -- WILL IT BE EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND THAT WILL BE DONE FOR

INDIVIDUALS? >> BACKGROUND CHECK.

I ACTUALLY -- >> BACKGROUNDS AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE -- CHECK OFF THAT BOX?

>> I DON'T BELIEVE THAT I'M ALLOWED TO DO THAT.

>> JUST ASKING -- >> OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD NOT BE HAVING A VOLUNTEER WHO HAS ANY KIND OF --

>> DOESN'T NECESSARILY -- SHE COULD TO SHARE --

>> RIGHT. RIGHT SOMEBODY WITH A SPEEDING TICKET, BUT SOMEONE WITH A -- THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I WOULD NOT

BE PUTTING MY NONPROFIT AT RISK. >> ABSOLUTELY.

I WOULDN'T EITHER. BUT YOU KNOW, GETTING REASSURANCES FOR THAT COMING TO A SAFE PLACE.

>> YEP. YES.

NO, BACKGROUND CHECKS WOULD BE INCLUDED FOR ANY VOLUNTEERS.

>> SO ALONG THE LINE OF THAT APPROACH YOU'RE NOT RUNNING DAY

CARE -- >> NOPE.

>> FOLLOWING SERVICES BUT FOR THE STATE NOTHING LIKE THAT.

AND PARENTS ARE INVITED ENCOURAGED WHATEVER TO STICK

AROUND. >> REQUIRED TO ENTER WITH THEIR CHILD WE DON'T HAVE VOLUNTEERS. WHEN A ADULT AND A CHILD ENTER, WE DO NOT HAVE VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE IN THERE.

IT IS BECAUSE OUR FAMILIES NEED THEIR PRIVACY TO DO WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO. SO VOLUNTEER STEPS OUT.

THERE'S, OBVIOUSLY, WINDOWS WE CAN HEAR WE'RE SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO, AND YOU KNOW, DOORS AND WHATNOT.

BUT WE DEFINITELY MAINTAIN PRIVACY FOR OUR FAMILIES.

[INAUDIBLE] >> START AN EVENT AT ONE TIME?

>> WE CURRENTLY, WE CURRENTLY ALLOW TWO FAMILIES IN ONE TIME, HOWEVER, IN THE EVENT OF WHAT WE CALL A CRISIS WE'LL ASK FOR ANY FAMILIES THAT ARE IN THERE TO STEP OUT SO THAT A FAMILY IN CRISIS CAN HANDLE THEIR BUSINESS IN THEIR SPACE.

SO ONLY TWO FAMILIES AT A TIME. >> DID YOU ATTEND CHARTER, I KNOW THE WEATHER WASN'T EXACTLY FAVORABLE.

>> NO. THEY WEREN'T ALLOWING NONPROFITS AT THE TIME. NOPE.

>> RIGHT. >> I ATTENDED AS A CITIZEN YES.

>> NOT SET UP NOT LIKE A TENT OR CANOPY?

>> NO. I'M SURPRISED IT WENT ON THAT LONG THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THEM PARTICIPATE.

THIS IS JUST A GENERAL COMMON FOR STAFF.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN CHANGING IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT I GET ALL OF THAT I'M SURPRISED WE AWARDED A GRADUATE FOR THE PURPOSES OF PROVIDING THIS TYPE OF A SERVICE AND THEN WENT MONTHS WITHOUT REALLY ALLOWING THEM THE AVENUE TO PROVIDE THIS TYPE OF A SERVICE. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT --

HAPPENED? >> SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.

GIVE MIRANDA THE CREDIT SHE APPROACHED ME VERY EARLY WE DID THE GRANT PROGRAM THIS LAST BUDGET CYCLE, RIGHT? SO I DON'T REMEMBER WHEN YOU PURCHASED THE RV BUT IT WAS RIGHT AFTER THAT, SHE APPROACHED ME AFTER COUNCIL MEETING AND TOLD ME THAT SHE WASN'T ALLOWED TO SHOW UP AT THE EVENTS THAT GRANTS BECAUSE OF THAT POLICY CHANGE WITH NO NONPROFITS.

SO TO YOUR CREDIT SHE'S -- SHE WASN'T LIKE HEY THANKS FOR THE MONEY AND RUN. SHE WANTED TO BE THERE.

WE JUST DIDN'T ALLOW IT. >> IT'S NOT THAT SHE'S -- SO WHEN I THINK OF A NONPROFIT SHOWING UP AT AN EVENT THEY'RE THERE TO ADVERTISE THEIR FUND RAISE OR SOMETHING SHE'S THERE TO PROVIDE A SERVICE WHICH IS DIFFERENT IN MY MIND AND WHAT YOUR TYPICAL NONPROFIT IS DOING IN THIS --

SO SOMEHOW THAT'S -- >> WE'VE BEEN UP AND RUNNING

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NOW, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LIKE YOU HAD SAID I DID -- THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LET ME SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT GETTING YOU INTO -- AND IT'S JUST LIKE YOU SAID WITH THE MOU IT CREATES THAT AWARENESS TO STAFF.

LIKE HEY, THERE IS A SERVICE THAT SHOULD BE IN PART OF THE CADENCE OF PARKS AND REC OR WHATEVER.

YOU KNOW ABOUT WHEN YOU HAVE THIS EVENT OR WHEN YOU HAVE EVENTS I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A PLANNING CHECKLIST, RIGHT SENSORY TENT PALACE WILL BE ON THAT CHECKLIST THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST -- WE'RE PART OF WE WOULD BE PART OF TABLES AND CHAIRS, RIGHT? SO --

LIKE SIMILAR. >> YEAH.

SO MIRANDA, I MEAN, PIGGY BACKING ON BUDGET PROCESS THAT WE'RE GONG TO. I WANT TO ASK FOR MEETING COUNCIL AND THOSE IN THE ROOM, THE ALTERNATIVE OF FUNDING STRETCHER OF THE 20,000 AND 22,000 PER YEAR FROM THE 30,000 LUMP SUM AND 12,000 ADDITION IS THAT SUFFICIENT FOR YOU AS WELL?

LIKE THAT? >> IT WOULD ALLOW US TO SLOW ROLL, YES. BUT, OBVIOUSLY, NOT GET EVERYTHING DONE IN THAT -- IN WHAT WE NEED.

YES. AND I ALWAYS PROVIDE OPTIONS.

I MEAN, I'M ONE OF THOSE KIND OF PEOPLE.

SO THERE'S THAT BACKUP OPTION AND WHERE THAT 20 TO 22 FOR THREE YEARS COMES IN ESSENTIALLY EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW ON THIS DATE, ROLLED OVER FOR THREE YEARS.

AND THEN 12,000 YOU KNOW, FROM THERE.

>> YEAH. THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THAT UP JUST TO THINK SAVE YOU TIME -- ESPECIALLY WHERE WE'RE HEADED I

WANTED TO SEE WHAT WE HAD. >> YEAH, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THAT WAS THE OPTION, THE FIRST YEAR WE WOULD BE ABLE TO JUST DO THE WRAP AND THEN OPERATING EXPENSES AND THE SECOND YEAR WE COULD DO THE ROOF AND WINDOW REPAIR, BUT AGAIN IF YOU DON'T DO THE ROOF AND WINDOW REPAIR THE FIRST YEAR, THEN YOU HAVE TO KIND OF PICK WHAT -- WHERE YOU'RE WANTING TO PUT THAT. WHILE YES I DID PUT THAT THAT IS NOT OUR PREFERENCE, OBVIOUSLY, BUT IT IS AN OPTION IF IT NEEDED

TO BE. >> MIRANDA ARE YOU SEEKING

GRADUATES FROM OTHER ENTITIES? >> YEP.

SO ACTUALLY -- I DON'T TO PROMOTE ANYTHING.

BUT WE DO CURRENTLY HAVE A FUNDRAISER PARTNERSHIP WITH PANERA THAT'S THIS FRIDAY IF YOU WANT TO EAT PANERA SENSORY TENT PALACE, AND WE'RE ALSO SEEKING OTHER OPPORTUNITIES WE'RE TALKING WITH CHICK-FIL-A, MCALISTERS OTHER PLACES LIKE THAT, WE HAVE SENT OUT REQUESTS FOR BUSINESS SPONSORSHIP AND COMMUNITY SPONSORSHIP I'VE SPOKEN WITH NONPROFIT FOUNDERS AND PRESIDENTS RIGHT NOW AND IT IS A VERY HARD TIME FOR NONPROFITS. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE BARELY HAVE FOOD, MONEY FOR FOOD RIGHT NOW MUCH LESS HERE'S 25 DOLLARS.

SO WE HAVE SOUGHT OUT COMMUNITY, OTHER COMMUNITIES' SUPPORT.

WHERE WE FALL AS STRUGGLING IS WHEN IT COMES TO OTHER GRANTS LIKE NATIONAL GRANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE WE AREN'T AT THE LEVEL TO WHERE WE PROVIDE TANGIBLE RESOURCES AND FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO FAMILIES, WE DON'T QUALIFY FOR A LOT OF GRANTS.

SO LIKE AUTISM SPEAKS HAS A GREAT GRANT.

BUT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A SCHOLARSHIP, WE CAN'T APPLY FOR IT. AND SO WE FALL SHORT JUST FOR THOSE TEENY TINY LITTLE NIGH -- NUANCES OF THESE GRANTS WE APPLY FOR IT I'M THROWING THEM EVERYWHERE, WHERE I CAN BUT LIKE I SAID THERE'S ONE OR TWO LITTLE REQUIREMENTS WE JUST -- WE'RE NOT ABLE TO CHECK THE BOX SO WE ARE NOT QUALIFIED FOR THEM. SO --

>> HAVE YOU CONSIDERED MARKETING THIS SERVICE TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND EFFECTS, OBVIOUSLY, DON'T BUT MAYBE MARKETING TO THEM AS A SERVICE THEY CAN PROVIDE FOR A FEE FOR EXAMPLE. INSTEAD OF A -- GRADUATE ARRANGEMENT IT IS MORE LIKE A CONTRACTED SERVICE?

>> I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH CHRIS ABOUT -- GARLAND CITY COUNCIL, AND I'M LOOKING AT WHERE I CAN ALSO GARLAND. IT JUST --

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LITTLE BIT MORE -- >> CREDIBILITY.

>> FOR SURE BEFORE, WHAT DO YOU WANT AND OUR MONEY BUT WHEN I'M SAYING I HAVE AN MOU WITH CITY OF ROWLETT IT BECOMES A LITTLE BIT MORE -- AND I THINK IT ALSO WOULD BE GOOD IN THE FUTURE ALSO. FOR OUR FUNDING EXPANSION RIGHT? IF OTHER CITIES SEE THAT Y'ALL ARE PARTNERING WITH US.

YOU KNOW MAYBE WE WANT SOME OF THAT TOO.

AND THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO EXPAND AND ASK FOR LESS LATER BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING FROM OTHER CITIES TOO.

SO IT'S -- >> THAT'S KIND OF BOTH OF THOSE QUESTIONS ARE AIMED AT LIKE ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND OFFSETTING WHAT WE'RE WILLING -- AND YEAH.

WE'RE ACTUALLY GAL WAS WORKING ON THIS THIS MORNING.

WE'RE UPDATING OUR WEBSITE TO HAVE WHOLE LIKE -- SPONSORSHIP PACKETS THINGS LIKE THAT SO I CAN START REALLY EXPAND UPON AND FOCUS IN ON, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT HITTING THOSE CORPORATIONS. BECAUSE I CAN GO TO CHICK-FIL-A ALL DAY LONG, BUT THEY PREFER TO GIVE YOU GIFT CARDS.

GIFT CARDS DON'T WORK FOR OUR SERVICES WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS HIT THE CHICK-FIL-A FOUNDATION. AND SAY HEY, WE -- THIS IS OUR NEED WOULD YOU LIKE TO SUPPORT US? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PUTTING TOGETHER SO THAT WE CAN START HITTING THOSE CORPORATIONS TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME

FUNDING FROM THERE. >> OTHER QUESTIONS?

COMMENTS? >> YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, I'M A HUGE FAN, OF COURSE, AND I DO THINK IT IS IMPORTANT -- OF COURSE, MONEY IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT.

AND I ALSO THINK IT IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT WHAT WE TALK ABOUT AS THE CITY OF ROWLETT IS THAT WE HAVE THE SMALL TOWN FEEL. AND THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

PEOPLE TRULY -- IT IS IMPORTANT TO THEM THAT WE HAVE A SMALL TOWN FEEL. THAT THIS IS THE PLACE TO LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY, AND WELL -- OKAY.

WE CAN LIVE AND WORK AND PLAY NO MATTER KIND OF WHAT OUR FAMILY NEEDS ARE. AND SO I THINK THIS IS A FANTASTIC PROGRAM. I ABSOLUTELY WOULD SUPPORT AND I HOPE COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL SUPPORT YOU AT WHATEVR LEVEL IT IS THAT YOU NEED. I ALSO WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS VITAL.

SO IF YOU HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH, IF YOU ARE CONNECTING WITH OTHER FAMILIES THAT ARE IN YOUR SAME SITUATION YOU'RE ACTUALLY BUILDING RESILIENCE INTO YOUR COMMUNITY.

YOU'RE BUILDING SAFETY INTO YOUR COMMUNITY.

WHEN YOU KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE -- YOU KNOW, WALKING DOGS, WHEN YOU KNOW PEOPLE, THEN IT JUST CREATES THIS SMALL TOWN FEEL WHERE YOU'RE KNOWN, AND SO YES.

MONEY IS IMPORTANT. MONEY IS TIGHT.

BUT SO IS THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY, A SENSE OF BELONGING AND A SENSE OF PLACE. SO I WOULD SAY THAT THOSE ARE REALLY VERY OVERWRITING CONCERNS.

I THINK THE CHIEF, CHIEF BENNING WOULD SUPPORT ME IN SAYING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT.

CRIME WATCHES ARE REALLY IMPORTANT SO THIS IS ANOTHER AVENUE TO CONNECT PEOPLE FROM ACROSS THE CITY TOGETHER.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE.

>> AND REALLY JUST PARTICIPATING IN EVENTS THAT'S JUST OUR FOUNDATION. THAT'S WHERE -- THAT'S JUST A SERVICE THAT WE OFFER.

I HAVE SO MANY HOPES AND DREAMS FOR THIS NONPROFIT WHERE PARTNERING WITH, YOU KNOW, CHIEF BENNING TO LOOK AT KIND OF THE CORE TEAM. I THINK WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE ABOUT WHAT KIND OF TRAINING OFFICERS HAVE WITH PEOPLE AND AUTISM AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

OFFERING RESEARCH I WOULD LOVE TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE OFFERING FUND RAISERS AND SCHOLARSHIPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. FOR FAMILIES -- AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER WHAT NONPROFITS ARE. RIGHT?

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>> AND THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER REEVES FOR BRINGING THIS UP.

I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT. >> COUNCIL IS THERE SOME CONSENSUS AMONG THE GROUP THAT'S HERE TODAY TO BRING THIS KIND OF INTO THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE? AGREE WITH THAT?

>> YES. BUDGET WITH THIS CYCLE WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO FOR THE MOU AND ANYBODY CAN GIVE FEEDBACK KEEP FOR ME IS THAT THERE'S SOME STRUCTURE AROUND EVENTS, HOWEVER, THERE'S NOT A CHECKLIST THAT THEY HAVE TO CHECK TO ATTEND. IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE EXPECTED TO ATTEND THESE AS MANY OF THESE EVENTS AS POSSIBLE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WHAT THE CITY HOSTS AND THOSE EVENTS WOULD BE FOR EXAMPLE, ONES THAT MIRANDA GAVE. PROBABLY NOT MEMORIAL DAY, BUT YES DEFINITE JULY 4TH RIGHT THAT TYPE OF DIFFERENTIATION.

I THINK IT SHOULD BE AN ANNUAL AGREEMENT THAT GETS LOOKED AT ONCE A YEAR AND RENEWED BASED ON HOW MANY EVENTS ARE ATTENDED.

THE BENEFIT ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF, AND IT'S JUST AGAIN WHAT ON THE ANNUAL BASIS THAT WAY THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITIES TO ADJUST FUNDING HAVE THIS CONVERSATION TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING MIGHT BE FOUND OUTSIDE THE CITY OF ROWLETT AS WELL FROM OTHER GRADUATES OR OTHER REVENUE GENERATING OPPORTUNITIES. BUT I DON'T TO PUT A GIANT STICK IN THE MOU THAT WE GET TO BEAT THEM WITH IF THEY'RE NOT EXACTLY COMPLIENGT I I THINK WE HAVE MOU THAT MIGHT BE THAT WAY AND IT

MIGHT BE DETRIMENTAL TO ME. >> THE LAWYER IN ME THE MOU IS NONBINDING DOCUMENT IT IS NOT LEGALLY BINDING IT IS JUST MORE OR LESS AN AGREEMENT TO TRY TO IMPROVE.

A GOOD FAITH TYPE OF THING T%-ÚE PRIVATE SECTOR WE HAVE TO DO A

FUND AGREEMENT. >> SO WE WOULD HAVE FUND AGREEMENTS ESTABLISHED WITH OTHER ENTITIES THAT WE HAVE DONE THAT WITH. IN THOSE --

SO SORRY -- >> TAKING EVERYTHING I SAID AND MOVE IT TO THE FUND AGREEMENT. MOU WOULDN'T OUTLINE THOSE THINGS BUT PROBABLY BE AN INITIAL AGREEMENT TO AGREE --

>> PHRASE MAKES ME NERVOUS -- NO STICK NOT A GIANT STICK.

[LAUGHTER] >> AGAIN.

I WANT IT TO BE A MUTUAL BENEFICIAL RELATIONSHIP I DON'T ALL OF THE CHIPS ON OUR SIDE OF THE TABLE ALL OF THE CHIPS ON HER SIDE OF THE TABLE. IT HAS TO BENEFIT BOTH.

IF WE HAVE AN OPEN ENDED FUNDING AGREEMENT SAY GO FORTH AND CONCUR, THERE'S NO, NO GUARANTEE THAT MIRANDA IS GOING TO COME TO ANY OF OUR EVENTS LIKE WISE IF YOU HAVE TO MAKE THESE EVENTS OR WE'RE GOING TO DRAG THIS MONEY AWAY FROM YOU AND IT WILL NOT BE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP AND IF SHE CAN'T OR HAS A FLAT TIRE OR GENERATOR DOESN'T WORK THAT DAY OR WHATEVER REASON SHE CAN'T PERFORM AT AN EVENT, WE PULL THE RUG OUT OF WHAT SHE'S TRYING TO DO, IT WOULD BE CATASTROPHIC TO HER PROGRAM SO SOMEWHERE IN

THERE WE WANT TO FIND A BALANCE. >> WE HAVE MITIGATION SO WE HAVE THE TENTS. IF THAT HAPPENS WE'LL BE HAULING

A TENT TOO. >> CAN YOU HAVE AN MOU WITH A

FUNDING AGREEMENT ADDENDUM? >> YOU CAN HAVE AN MOU TO SAY YOU CONTEMPLATE -- A FUNDING GROUP.

>> SO I THINK TODAY IS JUST BACK ON SETTINGS IN MOTION IF THERE'S ANY DISAGREEMENT ANY OTHER THOUGHTS FEEL FREE TO ADD THEM IN. BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF THE -- T'S AND I'S TODAY.

>> KEEP ROWLETT BEAUTIFUL IS KIND OF A -- IN MY EYES A GOOD FOUNDATION TO LOOK AT THOSE REQUIREMENTS, RIGHT THE QUARTER AND ALSO OUR CURRENT FUNDING AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE, RIGHT QUARTERLY REPORTS, METRICS ALL OF THOSE THINGS ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE SUBMITTING.

PROBABLY CEMENT THEM TO YOU ANYWAYS EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T WANT THEM. SO THOSE, YOU KNOW -- THOSE ARE DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ENCOURAGING WHICH YOU REQUEST FROM US. SO --

>> DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? [INAUDIBLE]

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>> ONE MORE QUICK I WAS HOPING TO HEAR A BUNCH OF WINS BUT FAILURES ON OUR SIDE OF GETTING TOGETHER I GUESS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED ON THAT.

BUT ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH -- [INAUDIBLE]

>> YES. ALL RIGHT SO SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PLACE TO START AND START GETTING SOME STUFF BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WINS. WE NEED A FEW WINS HERE.

>> I ACTUALLY ATTENDED WITH MY OWN KIDDO, AND HIGHLY APPRECIATE THAT. I DID SEND A MESSAGE TO ENCOURAGE TO BE HAPPENING MORE OFTEN.

>> OPEN ON TIME, EVERYTHING THIS YEAR --

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> WE LOVE THAT AND ALSO LOVE TO SEE MORE SPECIFIC EVENTS, RIGHT? I KNOW THE CITY OF GARLAND FOR CHRISTMAS THEY DO A SENSORY NIGHT FOR TREE LIGHTING THE NIGHT BEFORE THEIR PARADES. LOVE TO SEE PARTICIPATE WITH THOSE KND OF EVENTS TOO, HALLOWEEN ALL OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM FOR GROWTH ON THIS.

SPECIFIC TOPIC -- SO --

>> I DID A LOT OF RESEARCH ON IT TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT AND NOBODY REALLY DOING IT THEY WERE DOING OTHER THINGS FIRST THEY WOULD HAVE OTHER EVENTS THEY WOULD HAVE A BEFORE THE EVENT OR ALLOW THEM IN EARLY TO DO THINGS AND KIDS WITH SENSORY ISSUES AND STUFF. BUT THERE WAS NOTHING LIKE THIS

THAT I SAW ANYWHERE. >> US PARENTS WE WANT TO BE AT FOURTH OF JULY WE WANT TO BE AT THE CHRISTMAS PARADE WITH ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY WITH OUR NEIGHBORS WITH THE PEOPLE WE'VE NEVER MET BEFORE. AND SO WHILE YES THOSE SENSORY FRIENDLY EVENTS ARE WONDERFUL. WHY NOT GO TO A CHRISTMAS PARADE WHERE THERE'S SOMEWHERE MY KIDDO CAN GO AND DECOMPRESS.

>> SCARES PEOPLE -- >> GLAD YOU BRING THAT UP IN MY MIND THAT TRIGGERS FINANCIAL ASPECT OF THIS.

WHICH IS IF YOU HAVE TO OPEN UP AN EVENT AN HOUR OR TWO EARLY, TO ALLOW SPECIFIC GROUP IN, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE OUR FOLKS THERE TO STAFF IT, WHEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE KIND OF THAT WHOLE COMPONENT, THERE'S MONEY INVOLVED IN THOSE.

IT DOESN'T COME FREE. SO IF -- IF THAT IS OFFSET BY THE FACT THAT IT'S INTEGRATED INTO THE EVENT AND THEY GET TO BE THERE WITH THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS LEAK YOU MENTIONED THAT'S KIND OF AN OFFSET IN MY MIND OF COST.

SO -- >> JUST AN OPERATIONAL REQUEST YOU SAID YOU HAVE TWO FAMILIES AT A TIME IN THERE.

AT A BIGGER EVENT IS THERE A TIME LIMIT ON IT?

OR -- >> TWO FAMILIES CAN'T GO PARK OUT THERE FOR AN HOUR OR HOW DO YOU DO THAT? : OUR FAMILIES IN OUR COMMUNITIES ARE COGNIZANT OF THE MEET. IT IS NOT LIKE PEOPLE TRYING TO ESCAPE THE HEAT AND SITTING AND TAKING UP SPACE.

LIKE I SAID THE -- THE COMMUNITY OF FAMILIES WITH KIDS WITH AUTISM DISABILITIES, WE ARE AWARE THAT OTHER PEOPLE NEED TO ALSO USE THIS SPACE. SO WE DON'T FIND PEOPLE COMING IN AND TAKING UP SPACE JUST BECAUSE THEY WANT TO.

WE FIND THAT PEOPLE COME IN BECAUSE THEY NEED TO.

THEY STAY THE FIVE TO 15, 20 MINUTES THAT IT TAKES FOR THEIR KIDDO TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND THEN THEY GO.

I THINK IN THE SENSE WE STARTED THERE'S BEEN MAYBE ONE TIME AT FOURTH OF JULY BECAUSE IT WAS RAINING, THAT I'VE HAD TO SAY, NO I'M SORRY WE CAN'T HAVE YOU BECAUSE IT WAS RAINING AND IN A TENT AND IT WAS SLIPPERY. BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY, IT'S PRETTY

GOVERNED. >> EVERYBODY GETS A CHANCE AT

EVERYBODY THAT NEEDS IT. >> GOVERNED LIKE I SAID, I ALWAYS ADVISE ANY TIME A FAMILY GOES IN, IT IS HAVE A LANGUAGE THAT I SPEAK EVERY SINGLE TIME IF A FAMILY COMES IN CRISIS YOU HAVE TO STEP OUT SO WE CAN ATTEND TO THEM SO -- WE'RE PRETTY SELF-GOVERNED COMMUNITY.

YEAH. [LAUGHTER]

>> YEAH. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? MIRANDA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I KNOW MAYBE DON'T LIKE PUBLIC SPEAKING A TON BUT YOU DO IT REALLY WELL CONGRATULATIONS, THANK YOU. GREAT JOB.

WE'LL CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION.

>> PERFECT. THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT NEXT MOVE ON TO NEXT TAKE ABOUT A FIVE MINUTE RECESS. [LAUGHTER]

SO WE'LL >> COUNCIL IS BACK IN SESSION.

[3.C. FY27 Budget Process discussion relating to Boards and Commissions, and Founders Day.]

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DAY. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

LOOKING FOR A LITTLE FEEDBACK BECAUSE WE START THE BUDGET PROCESS HERE ON THE STAFF SIDE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AS WE WORK ON BRING THE PROCESS TO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE REFLECTIVE OF YOUR INTEREST WITH SOME OF THESE ISSUES. A COUPLE OF THE ISSUES WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT ARE SORT OF HOW WE HANDLE TRANSPARENCY GOVERNMENTS INCLUDED WHEN IT COMES TO SOME OF THESE REPRESENTATIVE COMMITTEES AND MOVING FORWARD OF COURSE WITH THE IDEA OF A FOUNDER STATE BECAUSE OUR 75TH ANNIVERSARY IS COMING UP NEXT YEAR. SO IT'S BUDGET -- TWO BUDGET RELATED BUT NOT DIRECTLY RELATED ITEMS. THE FIRST ONE IS THIS FOUNDERS THEY INITIATIVE.

IT IS SEPTEMBER FOURTH, I THOUGHT I HAD IT ON HERE.

THERE IT IS. I WENT TO SLIDES AT ONCE.

FOR THE 75TH ANNIVERSARY THE IDEA WOULD BE TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR A CITIZEN LED COMMITTEE PUT TOGETHER SOME IDEAS FOR CELEBRATING ON THE SEVENTH ANNIVERSARY CULMINATING IN CELEBRATION ON OR AROUND SEPTEMBER FIFTH UNLESS COUNCIL HAS AN OBJECTION WE ARTY PUT THIS TOGETHER AS A SUPPLEMENTAL REQUEST TO CONSIDER FUNDING DURING THE BUDGET I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE AWARE OF THAT FOR THAT POINT.

SO COMMITTEE WILL GO OUT THERE TO GET RESIDENTS ENGAGED AND HELP US SORT OF GET OUT THERE AND WITH THE POTENTIAL OF PERHAPS HAVING THAT HAPPEN WITHIN AFTER DURATION WHERE WE COULD DEVELOP SOME THINGS ABOUT OUR HISTORY THAT BECOME MORE DURABLE AS A COMMUNITY BEGINS -- COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO GROW.

QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? OKAY.

THE OTHER PIECE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS HOW WE HANDLE OUR ADVISORY AND THE CURRENT BUDGET PROCESS IS THE EXTRA LIAISONS GO TO EACH BOARD AND SAY WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AS FAR AS FUNDING NEXT YEAR? AND THERE IS BEEN DIFFERENT LEVELS OF AUTONOMY EXPRESSED ON THE BOARDS AND HOW THEY USE THAT FUNDING AND SOMETIMES IT COULD CREATE SOME AMBIGUITY THAT COULD MAKE STAFF FAIRLY UNCOMFORTABLE SO THE POLICY HANDBOOK IS FAIRLY CLEAR ABOUT THE RECENT EVENT OUR ADVISORY BOARD IS JUST THAT, THEY ARE ADVISORY AND YET OUR PRACTICE IS WE GIVE THEM A BUDGET LINE ITEM WHICH GIVES HIM THE BELIEF AND SOMETIMES ACTUALLY THE PRACTICE THAT THEY HAVE SIGNIFICANT AUTONOMY AND DISCRETION TO UTILIZE THOSE SO THE LIAISONS WITH TRYING STEP AND SOMETIMES BUT SOMETIMES THAT CAN BE CHALLENGING BECAUSE AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW IF WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE AUTHORITY IN THAT SPACE TO SAY, IT MIGHT NOT BE THE BEST USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS TO TRY AND GUIDE THEM BACK ELSEWHERE BECAUSE WE ARE USED T% HAVING THAT AUTONOMY. SO WITH THIS HAS SOME CHALLENGES SOMETIMES BOARDS WILL SAY YOU HAVE TO SPEND THIS SO JUST BECAUSE IT'S ALLOCATED, THEY FEEL STRONGLY THAT THEY HAVE TO SPEND IT ALL SO THEY COME UP WITH IDEAS ON HOW TO USE THAT.

SOMETIMES THAT SPENDING MIGHT BE QUESTIONABLE.

AGAIN AS STAFF, WHERE ARE WE CONFUSED AS TO WHAT OUR AUTHORITY IS TO STEP IN AND SAY, THAT REALLY DOESN'T MATCH THE PURPOSE OR THE REASON WHY THIS FUNDING WAS PROVIDED.

SOMETIMES, WE HAVE ADVISORY BOARDS THAT WANT TO START THEIR OWN GRANT PROGRAMMES. I DON'T WANT TO BE ACCUSED OF ADDING ANY VALUE JUDGEMENT HERE SOME TIMES THOSE IDEAS MIGHT BE GREAT IDEAS THEY MIGHT BE IDEAS THAT THE COUNCIL SUPPORTS.

OUR PROBLEM IS WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THEY COME UP FROM THE ADVISORY BOARD AND NEVER REACHES YOU FOR FEEDBACK ON WHETHER THOSE ARE FUNDING YOU SUPPORT OR WHETHER IT'S FUNDING EXPENDITURES YOU WOULD NOT SUPPORT AND THAT'S KIND OF THE DISCONNECT BETWEEN AN ADVISORY BOARD AND THE WAY THEY OPERATE NOW IS JUST KIND OF AN INDEPENDENT FUNDING GROUP.

SO ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE MIGHT CONSIDER DOING IT DIFFERENTLY AND THIS IS THE WAY I WORKED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD AS THEY WORK TO IDENTIFY THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU AND THEY'VE DONE THIS FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

TWO YEARS AGO THEY CAME IN AND SAID THESE FOUNTAINS NEED TO BE FIXED ON A REGULAR BASIS. WE NEED TO PROVIDE SOME CONSISTENT FUNDING FOR FUNDING FOR FOUNTAINS AND COUNCIL WANT TO STAFF AND SAID WHAT WOULD THAT TAKE WE GAVE YOU AN ESTIMATED COST YOU FUNDED THAT, THAT FUNDING IS NOW AND PARKS MAINTENANCE , AND WE TAKE CARE FOUNTAINS. THEY CAME TO US LAST YEAR, CAME

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THEY CAME UP WITH THE IDEA THEY RECOMMENDED IT TO COUNCIL.

AND THEN WHEN THE FUNDING IS ACTUALLY IMPLANTED THROUGH STAFF DIRECTION CONSISTENT WITH COUNCIL DIRECTION.

SO IF WE DID THAT CONSISTENTLY, IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT PARADIGM RATHER THAN SORT OF ALLOCATING JUST A CHUNK OF MONEY THE BOARD FEELS LIKE THEY HAVE A DISCUSSION ON HOW TO SPEND IT THE ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE THAT THEY RECOMMEND INITIATIVES.

THE STAFF SAYS IF YOU WANT TO DO ROWLETT PUT TOGETHER A BUDGET FOR THAT AND THAT BUDGET WOULD BE MANAGED BY STAFF WITH THE COOPERATION OF THE ADVISORY BOARD.

BUT THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT FUNDING IS EFFECTIVELY FOR PLACED ON STAFF RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE BASICALLY ALMOST NO OVERSIGHTS AND I'M TO GET A NEW PROGRAMME TO POP UP.

THERE ARE SOME HUMANITIES COMMISSIONS WHICH COULD BE A GREAT PROGRAMME WE SPENT ABOUT THREE AND $50 ON IT PROBABLY WAS MEANT ANOTHER $350 ON THAT PROGRAMME AGAIN.

NOT TRYING TO VALUE JUDGE THAT PROGRAMME.

THE POINT BEING IS THAT'S PROVIDED ANY KIND OF FEEDBACK ON WHETHER IT'S THE APPROPRIATE USE OF FUNDS.

SO THROUGHOUT SORT OF THREE DIFFERENT WAYS TO APPROACH THIS AND YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER A COMBINATION.

SO THERE MIGHT BE THE SORT OF OPTION THREE, WHICH IS YOUR FOUNDATIONAL PIECE AND EVERY ADVISORY BOARD HAS A BUDGET FOR A SHIRT AND A NAME TAG AND MAYBE A LUNCHEON SO TO GIVE THEM A FOUNDATION OF FUNDING AGAIN THE MINISTER OF MY STAFF AND THAT SORT OF IS BASICALLY THERE IS PART OF THE LIAISON BUDGET.

IF YOU GO TO TWO WHERE WE HAVE THIS WORK PLAN IDEA WHERE SOMEONE SAYS WE WANT TO DO THESE INITIATIVES NEXT YEAR, THESE EVENTS AND THEN IT'S UP TO STAFF TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IDENTIFYING WHAT WE RECOMMENDED AS FUNDING TO MAKE THOSE THINGS HAPPENING THOSE HAPPEN AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK FOR COUNCIL ABOUT HOW THOSE FORMS ARE SPENT AND WHETHER THE FUNDING WAS SUFFICIENT, NEEDS TO BE CHANGED OVER TIME, ET CETERA.

OR WE JUST STAY WITH THE STATUS QUO, WHICH IS COMING IN AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS AS THEY HAVE IN A PAST SAYING WE THINK WE NEED $10,000 BECAUSE WE KIND OF SPENT IT ON IT LAST YEAR AND WE CONTINUE TO GIVE THEM A LINE ITEM AND WE'LL WORK THROUGH IT AS GOOD AS WE CAN. THOUGH THE RULE OF QUESTIONING HERE IS DOES COUNCIL SEE A NEED TO CHANGE, AND IF YOU DO SEE A NEED TO CHANGE, WHAT DIRECTION WOULD YOU LIKE US TO GO? AND THAT'S THE FEEDBACK WHERE THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO GIVE US THAT FEEDBACK SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE WORK EFFECTIVELY WITH YOUR ADVISORY TO PREPARE FOR THE BUDGET PROCESS AS WE GO FOR THE NEXT BETWEEN -- THE NEXT TWO MEETINGS.

>> I HAVE WITNESSED SOME OF THE STUFF WHERE THEY SAID BEFORE WE HAVE TO SPEND OUR MONEY AND THAT'S OKAY.

MEAN WE NEED TO SPEND IT. WE NEED TO USE IT IN THE RIGHT WAY. IT HAS, I'VE HAD TO REDIRECT AT TIMES WHERE THEY DID TRY TO GET A GRANT WITH ANOTHER BOARD CALLED THE LIAISON AND STAFF TO DOUBLE CHECK.

THERE IS A FEW THINGS WE REALLY NEED TO LAY OUT THE RULES OF WHAT WE CANNOT CANNOT DO BECAUSE AWAY I WAS SEEING THIS WHEN I CAME ON WAS I THOUGHT WE WERE GIVEN BUDGET FOR THE THINGS WE NEEDED WHICH I SAW ONE OF THE THINGS WAS NAME TAGS, SHIRTS, MEALS, IF THEY MEET AT 6:00 OR WHATEVER FOR SOMETHING TO EAT, WHATEVER THEY CALL IT AND MAYBE SOME DISCRETIONARY THINGS THAT WE NEED TO PARTICIPATE IN CERTAIN EVENTS IF WE WANT TO GIVE GIVEAWAYS BECAUSE ON THOSE THE GIVEAWAYS GO KIND OF CRAZY THE SPY NOT A GOOD USE OF SOME OF THE MONEY TO -- THAT'S PROBABLY NOT A GOOD USE OF SOME OF THE MONEY THINGS.

FOR THINGS LIKE THE HALLOWEEN THING, I THINK THAT IS ALL WELL

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>> I THINK WE NEED SOME STRUCTURE.

THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A BUDGET.

THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY COULD HAVE A BUDGET.

SO I HAVE HAD TO KIND OF CAUTION THEM TO SAY WE ARE WAY UNDER SPENDING OUR BUDGET AND THAT'S NOT THE INTENT INTENT AS YOU PLAN FOR WHAT YOU NEED AND IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SPEND THAT VENUE ASK FOR THE FOLLOWING BECAUSE IF YOU GOT $5000 ANNUAL SPENT 2000 THEN YOU NEED TO SERIOUSLY LOOK AT YOU REALLY NEED 5000 2500 BUT YOU DON'T JUST GO AND SPEND IT ON A MASS SPENDING SPREE LIKE OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES.

YOU SPEND WHAT YOU NEED AND PLAN FOR THE NEXT YEAR FOR WHAT YOU

SPEND ON THIS YEAR. >> YOU COULD SEE IN OUR LAST PARKS BOARD THE RESERVATION WHEN I SAID WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND IDEALLY WE WOULD SIT DOWN AND SET UP SOMETHING LIKE A BUDGET, PAY UP LIKE A BUDGET. AND WHAT WE NEED AND WHAT WE PLAN TO DO IF THE STAFF LIAISON AND MAYBE COUNCIL LAYS ON AND A COUPLE OF OTHER PEOPLE GET TOGETHER WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE AND HOW MUCH MONEY THEY WOULD NEED AND HOW MANY BOARD MEMBERS AND NAME TAGS OR WHATEVER AND JUST SET THE

BUDGETS THAT WAY. >> IF I COULD WEIGH AND JUST WITH MY EXPERIENCE WHEN I STARTED THREE YEARS AGO FOR EVERYONE ELSE I THINK THE PREVIOUS YEAR BEFORE I STARTED I GOT LIKE $40,000 AND THEY DID NOT TO DO WITH IT FOR BUYING TREES AND WE HAVE A BIG CHUNK OF MONEY TO BUY TREES BUT THERE WAS NO REAL PROCESS. AND THAT WAS THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE GOT INTO IT. THE SECOND YEAR, WE STARTED GOING TO THIS PILOT, WHAT I THINK IT WOULD FORCE THEM TO DO AND WHAT IT WILL FORCE ALL BOARDS TO DO IS WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN OUR MEETINGS AND WE HAVE FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS. OKAY GUYS, AT SOME POINT, WE ARE GONNA BE ASKING FOR MONEY. WHAT ARE WE ASKING FOR? AND THAT'S WHAT IT DOES. IT PUTS A VERY CLEAR INDICATOR ON WHAT THAT MONEY IS FOR AND ALLOWS COUNCIL TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THAT. WHAT WOULD IT WOULD FORCE THE BOARD TO DO ANY BOARD THE FIRST MEETING OF THE YEAR OR WHATEVER IT STARTS LET START TALKING ABOUT OUR BUDGET WHAT GOALS WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO WHAT I DID WITH THE GOLF COURSE IS IT ALLOWED THEM TO EXPAND THEIR VISION ON WHAT IS POSSIBLE TO BUY A COUPLE OF T-SHIRTS AND SOME CANDY BARS AND CALL IT GOOD. IF YOU ARE THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND YOU REALLY HAVE SOMETHING AS A PARK ADVISORY BOARD, AS A GROUP THAT YOU DISCUSS AND SAY YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD REALLY IMPACT THE CITY AND IT FITS WITH OUR VISION.

IT'S GOING TO COST X AND YOU FILL IN THE DETAILS AND TURN IT OVER TO STAFF AND WE GET ALL THE NUMBERS WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AND BY THE TIME WE GET INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR US, WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR.

WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT IS GOING.

WE HAVE HAD ARE ASKED IS GOING TO BE. INSTEAD OF JUST BEING THIS BLACK BOX OF MONEY THAT EVERYONE WOULD FIGURE OUT HOW TO SPEND IT'S COMPLETELY OPPOSITE WE HAVE A GOAL AND REASON WITH THIS MONEY IS WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH IT IS JUST A MUCH BETTER WAY AND A MORE RESPONSIBLE WAY AND GREATER CLARITY IN THE WHOLE PROCESS. LIKE I SAID, WE STARTED WITH THE BASIC MODEL AND NOW AFTER TWO YEARS WE ARE REALLY INTO THIS IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE AND JUST HOW THE BOARD OPERATES.

AND I THINK YOU SEE THAT. AND THE NUMBERS WILL ALL BE DIFFERENT. EVERYONE'S DAYS ARE DIFFERENT -- NEEDS ARE DIFFERENT. IT JUST SEEMS TO BE A GOOD.

AND I WILL JUST TELL YOU THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO BE COUNCIL LIAISONS THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PUSHBACK AT THE BEGINNING I KNOW THE GOLF COURSE WORK THIS IS OUR MONEY.

I THINK MOST BOARDS HAVE THAT FEELING.

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THE REALITY IS, YOU WOULD GET A LOT MORE DONE BECAUSE YOU'RE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND YOU HAVEN'T PUT THE THOUGHT INTO WHAT YOU WANT TO SPEND YOUR MONEY ON.

SO THAT'S JUST FOR MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE SO I THINK THIS IS JUST A GREAT WAY TO GO AND I SUPPORT GOING IN THIS DIRECTION.

>> FROM WHAT I OBSERVED TOO AND DOING THE BUDGET WOULD BE BEST, BUT I WOULD ALSO TELL THEM, HAVING HER BUDGET DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CANNOT ASK FOR SOMETHING ELSE.

I'VE SAID, YOU COULD ALWAYS ASK TO INVEST THIS, THIS HAPPENS CAN

WE AMEND OUR BUDGET? >> THE TARGETS FOR THE BOARD.

IF YOUR MEMBER WHAT THE TARGET IS, TO YOUR POINT, JUST HAVING REALLY MAPPED THAT OUT INTO SAY THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH. I THINK THIS KEEPS THE BOARD TOTALLY FOCUSED ON WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND KIND OF ESPECIALLY WHEN THE BOARDS TO HER SEAT AND YOU GET NEW PEOPLE BETTER NEVER BEEN ON IT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON THESE ARE SOME MEASURABLE OUTCOMES THAT'S A PROCESS AND I THINK THIS IS A

GREAT IDEA. >> CHRISTOPH, ARE YOU FINISHED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION? I THINK ULTIMATELY WHAT WE ARE NEED TO DO IS LOOK AT COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS UP TO THE COUNCIL.

IT'S COMMUNICATION UP AND DOWN THE ORGANIZATION.

WE NEED TO BE COMMUNICATING TO THEM HOW WE WANT THEM TO OPERATE THE NEED TO BE COMMUNICATING TO THUS WHAT THEY ARE ACCOMPLISHED RIGHT NOW WE ONLY SEE THE COMMISSION ONCE A YEAR AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S ENOUGH. THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD PLACE TO START TO GO TO SEM ANIMAL REPORTS AND COMMISSIONS AND/OR -- SEMIANNUAL REPORTS AND COMMISSIONS AND HAVE A PORTION OF THE AGENDA BROUGHT FORWARD FROM THE COMMISSIONS ONCE A QUARTER. SOME WAY TO BETTER COMMUNICATE UP AND DOWN THE ORGANIZATION BECAUSE WELL MARVIN GIBBS SITS IN HIS PARKS BOARD MEETING THAT INFORMATION HE LEARNS AND CAN FEEDBACK AND PROVIDES THAT BOARD NEVER MAKES IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL UNTIL THEY'RE ONCE A YEAR UPDATE AND BY THEN WHATEVER SPECIFIC REASON FOR THE MEETINGS IS THROWN IN WITH 12 OTHER MEETINGS THAT HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR I THINK THAT'S WHAT REALLY MISSING THE FACT IS WE GOT TO THE POINT IN OUR LAST MEETING WITH THE GRANTS IN THE COMMISSION HAVE SOME VERY VALID QUESTIONS FROM SOME OF YOU ABOUT SCHOOLS AND THOSE ARE GRANT PROGRAMMES THAT HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR A VERY LONG TIME THAT THEY ARE PREPARED TO MAKE A GRANT RECOMMENDATION THERE'S FOLKS AND THERE WERE NOT THAT BECAUSE THEY DON'T AGREE WITH EVEN THE METHODOLOGY THAT IS JUST A FAILURE OF COMMUNICATION WE NEED TO TRY AND SPUR THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND/OR MORE FREQUENT UPDATES FROM COUNCIL SESSIONS -- COUNCIL LIAISONS EITHER WITH THE SESSION OR MEETINGS WHERE IT'S UPDATES EVERY QUARTER BUT WE DON'T REALLY FORMAL UPDATES. JUST SORT OF COUNCIL IN THE UPDATES AND THAT'S IT WHETHER IT'S FROM ELISE BOWERS FROM THE LIBRARY BOARD OR THE PARKS BOARD OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU HAVE A THERE IS NO UPDATE, THERE'S NO UPDATE, NO PROBLEM.

BUT LET'S GET THAT INFORMATION INTO THE HANDS OF EVERYBODY.

>> IF WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT AS WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS MORNING ABOUT THAT AND I THINK IT WAS SAID TO HAVE THEM REPORT TWICE A YEAR BUT I THINK WE SAW THAT IS A LOT THERE SO MUCH THAT GOES INTO A COUNCIL MEETING SO I DON'T KNOW THAT AS WELL I AGREE WITH YOU 100%. THEY ARE PROUD OF THEIR WORK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU RECOGNIZE I DON'T KNOW WHAT FORM THAT COULD TAKE AGREE THAT MORE COMMUNICATION IS NEEDED.

>> I THINK WE LOOK AT THE ANNUAL UPDATES THEIR FIVE IN ITS LONGER SOME THING LIKE THAT. WHEN IT'S TWICE A YEAR ONCE A QUARTER THEY ARE SHOEHORNING A YEAR'S WORTH.

>> ESPECIALLY IF YOU GIVE THEM A TIMELINE I THINK THE NEXT COUNCIL THERE'S BEEN A PUSH HERE RECENTLY TO BE MORE ENGAGED WITH THE COMMUNITY. THESE ARE ACTIVE ENGAGED

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IF WE LISTEN TO THEM. >> ARE NOT SAYING THAT THERE VALID JUST SAYING TO HAVE THE UPDATE THE KIND OF VISION GOING ON IN THE CITY OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE THINKING THAT MAKE WERE DATA

FOR THOSE DECISIONS. >> IT MIGHT BE THE ENTRY POINT FOR THIS IS WHEN WE DO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS THAT WOULD BE AN ENTRY POINT WHERE DO THE CITIZENS TALK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE GOING STRATEGICALLY SO THAT MIGHT BE ENTRY POINT FOR THAT.

>> THAT MIGHT BE THE DIRECTION YOU LOOK FOR.

AUCTION TWO IF WE COULD ALL AGREE ON OPTIONS.

THIS BUDGET PROCESS AND THEN WE WILL ADJUST BASED ON THINGS.

>> JUST TO BE SURE, THEY WILL HAVE SO A PROGRAMME COMES UP WHICH SOUNDS GREAT TO ME I LIKE ALL THAT STUFF. BUT WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR, THEY COULD COME TO COUNCIL AND THEY COULD COME TO STAFF TO FUND A NEW PROGRAMME.

>> ENTER GREAT OPPORTUNITIES THAT COME TO COUNCIL.

TO PUT THAT ON STAFF. ETHIC AS WE COME UP WITH THESE ALTERNATIVES -- THE CHALLENGE WE OF COURSE HAVE IS THAT WE HAVE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS AND REQUIREMENTS IF HE COULD PUT TOGETHER AT THIS ON AN AGENDA IN SOME WAY SO IT CREATES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CONSISTENT WAYS FOR ADVISORY BOARDS TO USE THAT AGENDA PEACE WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO YOU FOR TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT DEB NOTICES AVAILABLE. AND THEY COULD USE THAT WHEN IDEAS COME UP OR COME TO COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS IS A NEW IDEA TO TALK ABOUT IT BEFOREHAND.

WHAT YOU GUYS THINK WE TO GET FEEDBACK FROM OTHERS.

IT SEEMS LIKE AN EXCELLENT IDEA TO START THE FEEDBACK LOOP.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL ONCE A YEAR IS A POINT I'M

MAKING. >> I'M THINKING ONCE YOU GET READY FOR IMPLANTATION, THIS NEW WAY OF DOING THINGS, I'M THINKING WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD IDEA TO AT LEAST HAVE A MEETING WITH THE CHAIRS ON THE VISE CHAIRS AND AN OPPORTUNITY

TO WALK THEM THROUGH THIS. >> EXCELLENT SUGGESTION.

TAKING YOUR POINT. >> AND ALSO TO ONLY MEET ONCE A MONTH SORT ONLY HAVE ONE OR TWO MEETINGS, MAYBE JUST ONE MEETING BEFORE WE SIT BACK DOWN FOR THE PROCESS AND THE KIND OF CHALLENGES WE HAVE ARTIE STARTED TALKING ABOUT AN YARD HE ASKED THE QUESTION TO BE HONEST WHAT BUDGET YOU WANT NEXT YEAR IN MOST CASES THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO AGAIN CHANGE THE PARADIGM AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO 180 DEGREES IN ONE YEAR TO MAKE AN IMPROVEMENT IN THIS YEAR WHEN YOU MOVE THE BALL LITTLE BIT EACH YEAR TO THE BALL FOR A BETTER TIME.

WE KNOW THAT THIS IS COUNCIL'S DIRECTION WHERE WE CAN START MAKING MOVE TO GET CLOSER TO THIS AS WE GO ON.

>> THE MAYOR: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?

[3.D. Receive and discuss the Economic Development Advisory Board's recommendation to add another exofficio member position for Baylor Scott White Health - Lake Pointe.]

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM MOVEMENT -- 3.D. RECEIVE AND DISCUSS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION TO ADD ANOTHER EX- OFFICIO MEMBER POSITION FOR BAYLOR SCOTT WHITE HEALTH - LAKE

POINTE. >> WHAT EVENING MAYOR, COUNCIL.

THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S MEETING IS TO RECEIVE AND DISCUSS THE ECONOMIC ADVISORY BOARD RECOMMENDATION TO ADD ANOTHER NONVOTING EX-OFFICIO MEMBER FOR BAYLOR SCOTT WHITE HEALTH LAKE POINTE. BY ADDING THIS NEW POSITION WE WILL EMPHASIS ON

>> I'VE A QUESTION. ARE YOU SAYING IT'S GOING TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL BECAUSE TO ADD ANOTHER I THOUGHT IT WAS ANOTHER

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AUDIO] >> WE DID HAVE OTHER EX-OFFICIO

POSITIONS. >> THIS WOULD BE A NEW ONE.

>> SO OUT ANOTHER EX-OFFICIO POSITION WHICH HAPPENS TO BE FOR

>> THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS FUNNY BUSINESS SOMETIMES.

>> TODAY WE WILL DISCUSS TWO ITEMS. THE FIRST IS TO DISCUSS THE AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES AND TO-133. FOR AN ADDITIONAL MEMBER TO THE ASSISTANT SEVEN-MEMBER FOR A TOTAL OF EIGHT MEMBERS.

SECOND, WE WOULD DISCUSS ADOPTING A A POINT OWENS TO THE NEWLY ADDED EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS AND THIS ITEM ALSO WILL BE SCHEDULED TOMORROW MAY FIFTH AS THE REGULAR ITEM

FOR CITY COUNCIL. >> WAS THIS PROPOSAL PUT TOGETHER BY

>> IT WAS IN A MEETING WHERE I WAS THERE.

I THINK I RECOMMENDED THIS SO IN THE MEETING ITSELF, LET ME THINK, HOW DID THIS GO? LIKE TORI OWENS, THEY DID NOT SAY THAT A BAYLOR SCOTT WHITE HEALTH PERSON HAD TO BE THERE.

THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO MAKE IT EX-OFFICIO.

BECAUSE KIND OF LIKE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IF WE COULD GET AN UPDATE FROM BAYLOR SCOTT WHITE HEALTH BECAUSE THEY WERE ONE OF OUR LARGEST EMPLOYERS IN THE CITY.

AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE THEY ARE SUCH A LARGE EMPLOYER TODAY AT HIM AS THIS EX-OFFICIO MEMBER THAT WAY WE WOULD HAVE THAT SEAT TO BE A REGULAR CITIZEN TO GIVE INPUT AS OPPOSED TO A MAJOR EMPLOYER, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> LET ME ALSO SAY THAT SHOULD BE 2132.

THE REGULAR VOTING MEMBERS INCREASE THE EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS

>> BETTIS THE LESS OF EX-O EX-OFFICIO.

AND THAT'S IT. >> CURRENTLY WE HAVE ON AS VOTING MEMBERS ON EDAB SO THIS IS JUST INFORMATIONAL WE HAVE THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES.

WE HAVE THREE APPOINTEES WHICH ARE MEMBERS FROM THE PUBLIC WE HAVE TWO MEMBERS FROM THE CHAMBER WHAT I HAVE IN THE LIST ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. THANK YOU.

AND YOUR EX-OFFICIO AND THEN CHRISTOPH IS EX-OFFICIO AND THEN THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS EARLIER ABOUT OPPORTUNE USE FOR MEMBERSHIP THERE ARE THREE SITTING APPOINTMENT THAT WE COULD SIT IN ONCE A YEAR FOR THE THREE FOLKS WE HAVE ON THEIR NOW HAVE BEEN VERY OFFICIAL AND OWN PARTICULAR HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY VALUABLE SHE EXPERIENCE WHICH IS INCREDIBLY HELPFUL WITH SOME DISCUSSIONS THAT THEY HAVE HAD.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS MAINLY BECAUSE AS ONE OF THE LARGEST EMPLOYERS IN THE CITY, THE LARGEST EMPLOYER IN THE CITY, BAYLOR SCOTT WHITE HEALTH IS A TREMENDOUS ASSET TO HAVE AT THE TABLE WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOP IN MATTERS. NOT ONLY DO THEY REPRESENT A LARGE PORTION OF DAYTIME WORKERS IN THE CITY AND THE WEEKEND IN THE CONVERSATION IN THE DAYTIME ACTIVITY STANDPOINT JUST IN TERMS OF THE DOLLAR BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF CAPITAL THAT TAKES PLACE, THE CURRENCY THAT CHANGES HANDS THERE.

>> I ALSO THINK THAT HEALTH CARE IS A REALLY IMPORTANT THING TO KEEP ON TOP OF AS A CITY. IF YOU LOOK AT BAYLOR SCOTT WHITE HEALTH RIGHT NOW, WE DRAW IN PEOPLE FROM ALL OF THESE --

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SO I DO THINK THAT HAVING A PERMANENT POSITION ON THAT BOARD IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE HEALTH CARE IS IMPORTANT TO THE ENTIRE REGION AND I KNOW THAT WE HAD A NEW HOSPITAL COME IN OR CHANGE HANDS OVER IN HEALTH CARE REALLY REAL DRIVER IN OUR ECONOMY JUST FROM A HEALTH STANDPOINT OF OUR RESIDENTS AND THE RESIDENCE TO

THE EAST OF US. >> THE GEOGRAPHY IS REALLY KEY COMPONENT IN THAT AND THIS SITS IN THE SO I LOOK AT THIS LIST AND IT'S REALLY THE ONLY POSITION WE HAVE FROM THE COUNTY TO RESIDE ON THE EAST SIDE FOR OTHER FOLKS ON HERE MIGHT NOT HAVE. ANY CONCERNS ABOUT ABOUT? IF NOT, IT WILL BE ON TOMORROW'S AGENDA.

THERE TWO SEPARATE AGENDA ITEMS. ONE IS THE ADDITION OF THE CODE.

THE OTHER IS THE APPOINTMENT OF TORI OWENS TO THAT SEAT.

>> THE BETTIS JUST FOR THIS TERM BUT ACTUALLY TERMS ARE NOT

DEFINED. >> THERE IS NO TERM ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE FOR THE EX-OFFICIO POSITIONS.

TO TAKE THEIR POSITION BECAUSE OF THE ENTITY.

FOR EXAMPLE THE CHAMBER EX-OFFICIO IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHAMBER WHOEVER THAT MIGHT BE.

BECAUSE USUALLY THAT'S WHAT EX-OFFICIO MEANS, THEY ARE THERE

BECAUSE OF THE POSITION. >> I THINK THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

WE ARE NOT APPOINTING TORI OWENS IN PARTICULAR, WE ARE APPOINTING

A POSITION. >> I THINK THE ORDINANCE SAYS THAT SOMEONE TO BE APPOINTED BY THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF BAYLOR SCOTT WHITE AND THEY APPOINTED HER SO SHE IS BEING APPOINTED.

THEY WOULD NOTIFY US SO THEY WOULD HAVE SOMEONE ELSE

APPOINTED. >> GOT YOU.

>> SHE IS SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED IN THE RESOLUTION.

>> IN THE ORDINANCE, AND A REPRESENTATIVE APPOINTED JUST TO NOTE THAT SHE HAS BEEN APPOINTED BY THE BAYLOR SCOTT WHITE.

[4. Discuss Consent Agenda Items for May 5, 2026, City Council Meeting]

>> THE MAYOR: ALL RIGHT COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT, WE ARE ON TO ITEM 4. DISCUSS CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS FOUR, WHICH IS FOR TOMORROW'S MEETING.

COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA OR COMMENTS? I BELIEVE WE WILL HAVE ONE CONSENT AGENDA PULLED INTO CONSIDERATION I BELIEVE IT IS FOR BE -- FOUR BE.

>> IT'S THE ITEM FOR ENGINEERING PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

>> DISASTER DEBRIS REMOVAL SERVICES?

>> ENGINEERING SERVICES. >> THAT ITEM WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED FOR TOMORROW. IT'S BEING WITHDRAWN BY STAFF DURING THE CONSENT AGENDA WERE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT WE WANT TO DISCUSS?

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