May 12, 2026 Planning and Zoning Commission

[1. Call to Order]

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>> GOOD EVENING, WELCOME TO THE WORK SESSION FOR PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF ROWLETT.

AS AUTHORIZED BY SECTION 551.071, THIS MEETING MAY CAN BEING IN THE CLOSED SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF SEEKING THE CONFIDENTIAL LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY ON THE ITEM HERE END. THE CITY OF ROWLETT CAN BE IN THE SESSION IN AN ORDER OF BUSINESS PRIOR TO TERM FOR PUBLIC INPUT INSIDE CITY HALL, IF YOU WOULD GO OUT AND FILL THOSE OUT FOR ME. OKAY.

I KNOW YOU CARRY THEM AROUND. OKAY, FOR IN PERSON REGISTRATION FORMS, AVAILABLE INSIDE THE DOOR OF THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, IF YOU CANNOT ATTEND IN PERSON, YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE WEBSITE BY 3:30 P.M. THE DAY BEFORE THE MEETING, ALL THOSE FORMS WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE

[2. Work Session]

MR. KING . >> MICHAEL CAINE.

A PLANNING DEVELOPMENT. THE PURPOSE OF THIS WORK SESSION IS A CONTINUATION OF HER PREVIOUS WORK SESSION WITH SOME RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL STANDARDS AS WE TALK ABOUT THE EXEMPTIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP IN THE LAST MEETING ON HOLIDAY LIGHTING. THE BACKGROUND ON THIS PREVIOUS A COUNSEL ON JANUARY 5TH, PRESENTING THIS, STAFF PRESENTED THIS, COUNSEL HAD A RECOMMENDATION ON RESIDENTIAL STANDARD OF 0.2 FIVE AT THE PROPERTY LINE.

AND WILL MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS SHIELDED IN A WAY TO PREVENT GLARE. STAFF PRESENTED ON THIS TOPIC ON APRIL 14TH AND YOU GUYS HAD SOME QUESTIONS THAT BRINGS US HERE TODAY. THE CURRENT CODE IN SECTION RDC SECTION 77-510 I WANT TO READ THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS A REALLY GOOD INTENT TO THAT I WANT TO CARRY FORWARD AS ONE OF THE BEST INTENT STATEMENTS OR PURPOSE STATEMENTS OF ALL THE CITIES I HAVE LOOKED AT. THE INTENT OF THIS CODE SECTION REQUIRES UPPER LIGHTING THAT IS ADEQUATE FOR SAFETY AND CONVENIENCE IN A SCALE WITH THE ACTIVITY IS TO BE ILLUMINATED IN ITS SURROUNDINGS. DIRECTED TO THE SERVICE OR ACTIVITY TO BE ILLUMINATED AND DESIGNED TO CLEARLY RENDER PEOPLE AND OBJECTS AND CONTRIBUTE TO A PLEASANT NIGHTTIME ENVIRONMENT. SPECIFIC TO THE RESIDENTIAL LIGHTING STANDARDS IN RDC SECTION 77-510 B .1. BE, SAYING THAT SOFFIT OR WALL-MOUNTED LUMINAIRES THAT ARE PERMANENTLY ATTACHED TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS NOT TO EXCEED THE HEIGHT OF THE EVE AND DO NOT PROCEED GLARE ONTO ADJACENT PROPERTIES OR PUBLIC STREETS.

THAT'S THE SHORTCOMING WE ARE DEALING WITH IN THE CURRENT CODE IS THERE IS NO MAXIMUM LIGHTING OUTPUT STANDARD FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IS, THERE ARE LIMITED DEFINITIONS AND THE ONLY WAY TO CONSISTENTLY MEASURE FOR COMPLIANCE.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO DO.

THIS IS MY FAVORITE ILLUSTRATION.

SO WE HAVE THE KEY TERMS ALL IN ONE.

SO WE HAVE THE LUMINOUS FLUX. THIS IS THE ACTUAL OUTPUT OF LIGHT THAT IS MEASURED IN LUMEN ENDS.

AND THEN YOU HAVE AN INTENSITY WHICH IS THE OUTPUT OF LIGHT AND SPECIFIC DIRECTION, AND TO THEM WHEN IT HITS THE SURFACE AND TO THE LIMITS THAT IS MEASURED AND PUT THE IS WHERE WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT 05 FOOT-CANDLES AT THE LINE, THAT'S WHERE YOU ARE MEASURING ILLUMINANCE, AND THEN LUMINANCE, THAT IS THE LIGHT THAT HITS YOUR EYE, THAT IS GOING TO GLARE AND IS THE FOOT-CANDLES THAT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED.

BUT YOU GET IT. SO STAFF RECOMMENDATION, WE ACTUALLY WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES AND WHAT WE HAD.

WE WANT TO KEEP THE CURRENT PURPOSE STATEMENT KIND OF ADD SOME APPLICABILITY DEFINITION, PERMANENT DEFENSES AND EXEMPTIONS, WHEN WE COME TO ELIMINATION COMPUTATION, THAT'S WHAT WE DO WITH THE PLAN REVIEW WHEN THEY ACTUALLY PROVIDE A DIAMETRIC DIAGRAM AND WE LOOK AT THE SITE TO DETERMINE DOES IT COMPLY, SO THAT'S BEFORE. AND THEN THE LUMINANCE

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THE INTENSITY MEASURED AT THE PROPERTY LINE SHALL BE 0.2 CANDLES, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO TAKE FORWARD IN THE LANGUAGE, THE DESIGN STANDARDS ARE THERE, WE HAVE DEFINITIONS THAT PROVIDE CLARITY AND IT APPLIES TO ALL RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. SO THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE LIGHTING ORDINANCE RATHER THAN ONE THAT FOCUSES ON THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EXEMPTIONS EXEMPTIONS, SO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT SECURITY LIGHTING, LIGHTING FOR EMERGENCY REPAIRS AND CONSTRUCTION WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SECURITY LIGHTING, WE WANT TO SEE IS IT ON A TIMER, IS IT POURING OVER TO THE GLARE AND CREATING AN UNBEARABLE SITUATION FOR YOUR NEIGHBORS. IT LIGHTING FOR EMERGENCY REPAIRS AND CONSTRUCTION, A LOT OF THIS IS THE CITY EXEMPTION.

YOU SEE THE WORK THAT THEY ARE DOING ON THE PHOTOGRAPH WHEN THEY ARE WORKING AT NIGHT. AND THERE'S ALSO ANALYSIS THAT IS BEING DONE ON A PARKING LOT AT NIGHT, SO YOU CAN SEE TWO DIFFERENT IDEAS OF WHAT LIGHTING IS AT NIGHT.

IT CITIES AND OF COURSE THE STATE ARE EXEMPT, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO COMMERCIAL OR HOMEOWNER WORK, WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT GETTING PRIOR APPROVAL FIRST AND ACTUALLY HAVING SOME REVIEW ON THAT. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SECURITY LIGHTING FIRST. WE CANNOT FIND A CITY THAT SET A TIME LIMIT ON SENSOR LIGHTING, DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE GOOD TIME LIMIT SHOULD BE. I THINK IT SHOULD BE REASONABLE.

>> WHAT'S THE INDUSTRY STANDARD FOR SECURITY LIGHTING?

>> MOST TIMERS ARE SET BETWEEN ONE AND 3 MINUTES.

>> TO HAVE 3 MINUTES. >> YES, MANY SURROUNDING TEXAS CITIES FOLLOW A GENERAL CURFEW MODEL ON LIGHTING AND SECURITY LIGHTING AND IT TALKS ABOUT SECURITY LIGHTING, ALL LIGHTING IN GENERAL, THIS IS SET AT 11:00 P.M. OR ONE HOUR TO CLOSE THE BUSINESS THAT GIVES EVERYBODY ENOUGH TIME TO CLOSE UP, CLEAN UP, AND EMPLOYEES GET TO THEIR CARS.

WHAT WE WANT TO KIND OF PUSH MAY BE AFTER THIS GOES INTO EFFECT IS REACHING OUT AND SAYING, HEY, IF YOU HAVE A MOTION SENSOR LET'S MAKE SURE THAT IT HAS A SENSOR THAT DEFAULTS TO OFF RATHER THAN TURNS ON AND STAYS ON, BUT TURNS OFF AFTER A FEW MINUTES. THE BEST WAY TO -- BEST MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO MAINTAIN SECURITY IF IT JUST TURNS ON EVENTUALLY PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO DO WELL, THIEVES, CROOKS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM ARE JUST GOING TO IGNORE THE SECURITY LIGHTING, BECAUSE YOU ARE PROBABLY IGNORING THE SECURITY LIGHTING TOO. SO I THINK SOME PUBLIC OUTREACH ON THAT IS GOING TO BE THE BEST WAY TO WORK ON THAT.

WHAT WE FOUND WAS A LOT OF CITIES SUBSCRIBE TO WHAT THEY CALL LIGHTS OUT TEXAS, IT'S A BIRD MIGRATION LIGHTING CAMPAIGN WHERE THEY WANT THE LIGHTS, ESPECIALLY THE LIGHTS THAT FACE UPWARDS TO TURN AROUND 11:00 AT NIGHT SO BIRDS CAN MIGRATE AT TONIGHT OR FLY AT NIGHT CAN SUCCESSFULLY NAVIGATE BY THE STARS OR HOWEVER THEY DO IT. SO WHEN I LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES, GRAND PRAIRIE, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A LIGHTING CURFEW FROM 11:00 P.M. TO 6:00 A.M., DALLAS HAS A VOLUNTARY LIGHTS OUT INITIATIVE FOR 11:00 P.M. FORT WORTH DOES NOT REALLY HAVE ONE, A TIME FOR COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES OR RESIDENCES, BUT THEY HAVE ON THAT THEY SELL FROM PUBLISH, SO THEY GO FROM 11:00 P.M. TO 6:00 A.M., ALL CITY BUILDINGS TURN OFF THEIR LIGHTING. PLANO, FLOWER MOUND, FRISCO, 11:00 TO 6:00 P.M., AND HE HAS ONE THAT IS 10:00 P.M. FOR A KNOWN RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES THEY HAVE A CURFEW.

>> YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE PARKING LOT, THEY HAVE TO TURN THE LIGHTS OFF IN THE PARKING LOT?

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>> AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT OPEN, THEY TURN OFF THEIR PARKING LOT LIGHTS AND SITE LIGHTING AND THAT STUFF.

AND THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN THE LIGHT OF THE PREFERRED

MIGRATION, RIGHT? >> RIGHT.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SECURITY LIGHTING, WE TALKED ABOUT BRIGHTNESS, I KNOW THAT WAS A BIG ISSUE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE LAST MEETING, THE STATEMENT WAS WHERE IT HAS TO BE NAMED AT LEAST 5% ABOVE THE GREATS, STANDING HEIGHT.

AND IS NOT TO THE DIRECT BEING. SO IF YOU ARE STANDING AT THE PROPERTY LINE YOU SHOULD GET SOME INDIRECT LIGHTING FROM A FRAUD THE WON FLOODLIGHTS BUT NOT BE ABLE TO SEE IT DIRECTLY.

IN GARLAND TODAY BEGAN MULTIPLE TYPES OF LIGHTS, HID STANDARD FOR LESS SEND LIGHTS FOR THE USE USE, AN INTERESTING THING IS OURS, WE JUST PROHIBIT SO THEY WANT TO STEP FURTHER, AND THEN THE FIXTURES GENERALLY CANNOT EXCEED THE HEIGHT OF THE MAIN BUILDING AS OUR ORDINANCE CHOOSES AND WANTS TO DO THE SAME SAME. ART HOUSES THE SAME THING AS THE LIGHTS NEED TO BE MOUNTED ON THE SOFT BEDS REMAINING, NOT ON THE

POLLS. >> THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE HIGHEST HEIGHT OF THE MAIN BUILDING, BECAUSE YOU -- YOUR PEAK OR YOUR ROOF IS OBVIOUSLY HIGHER.

>> YOU NEED TO DEFINE IT, THAT WAS A DISCUSSION THAT CAME UP I THINK YOU HAD A PREVIOUS MEETING.

>> SO WE WANT TO ELIMINATE IT TO THE EVE, THE HEIGHT OF WHICH EVE

THOUGH? >> WRITES.

>> DEPENDS ON YOUR ROOF TO START START.

>> SO VISIBILITY. SO THIS WAS INTERESTING FROM GARLAND THAT IS HARD TO WORK WITH.

THEY SAY IT LIGHTS OVER 60 WATTS MUST NOT BE VISIBLE FROM VIEW OF PUBLIC AREAS PAIRED WOMEN TALKED ABOUT DEFINITIONS WE DID NOT TALK ABOUT WATTS BECAUSE A 60-WATT MERCURY VAPOR, OR WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS OF MERCURY VAPOR, THE 60-WATT L.E.D. BULB IS FAR BRIGHTER THAN THE 60-WATT BULB, SO DON'T KNOW IF THEY -- HOW THEY ARE ADDRESSING THAT, BUT WE DON'T USE WATTS FOR THAT SPECIFIC REASON. WE ARE USING WOMEN M'S, BECAUSE THAT'S THE OUTPUT THAT IS MEASURED.

>> BUT YOU HAVE ALL THAT 20 WATTS, THAT USES THE ENERGY

IF THAT MAKES SENSE. >> IT'S AND EQUIVALENT.

>> AND IT HAS THE ENERGY IN THESE PLACES THAT GO OUT WITH

THE ENERGY. >> SO JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, THERE ARE VISIBLE LIGHTS OVER 6E CAN YOU GET THAT 60 WATER BOWL BUT IF YOU CAN TO VIEW IT FROM PUBLIC VIEW OR RESIDENTIAL AREAS

AREAS? >> SO --

>> A FRONT PORCH, A 60 WATTS BULB.

>> THAT'S PUBLIC VIEW. >> THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO PRESENT WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT WE COULD FIND WHAT THEY DO AND REALIZE THAT THERE ARE DISCREPANCIES IN THERE.

HOW DO THEY EVEN ENFORCE ITS? >> YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR LIGHTS

OUT. >> YOUR LIGHTS ARE OUT TO.

AND SO WE WANTED TO BRING BACK TO THE FOREFRONT SO WE COULD TALK ABOUT REALISTICALLY AND RATIONALLY WHAT SHOULD BE

LOOKING LIKE. >> I WOULD THINK THAT THE VERY INTENT WAS PROBABLY TO HAVE SHIELDING OF THE LIGHTS SO THAT

YOU ONLY HAVE INDIRECT LIGHTING. >> BUT EVEN THEN, YOU CANNOT

HAVE IT ON ACCORDING TO THAT. >> IF IT'S HIGHER THAN 60.

>> AND SO WE TALK ABOUT WHERE THEY HAVE THE 5 FEET THAT CAN'T BE SHINING DIRECTLY IN HER EYES, GARLAND USES 3 FEET AT THE PROPERTY LINE AS A VIOLATION. SO THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT

THE KIDS ARE OKAY TOO. >> OKAY, SO YOU CAN LOOK AT MY PHONE IF YOU WANT TO, BECAUSE I TOOK PICTURES OF MY LIGHTS.

ON THE FRONT. I HAVE THREE TIERS OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT. AND THERE ARE 60 WATTS EACH, SO THERE IS A CLUSTER OF THREE AND A CLUSTER OF THE CROSS THREE.

ALL RIGHT, SO IF YOU ARE ELIMINATING OR ARE YOU ARE GOING FOR THE 60 WATTS, THEN I WOULD COMPLY IN A SENSE.

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SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT YOU MEASURE THE LIGHT OUT FRONT AT THE PROPERTY LINE AND NOT NECESSARILY WHAT IS SHINING FROM THE POLE, SO IF THE LIGHTS ON YOUR POLE IS NOT SHINING SO BRIGHT THAT THEY ARE CROSSING THE PROPERTY LINE OR CROSSING INTO YOUR NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY LINE, AND CREATING A GLARE, I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT OUR ORDINANCE IS TRYING TO PERMIT IS LET'S PERMIT THE GLARE, THAT'S A BOTHERSOME PART OF THE ENFORCEMENT WHERE THEY HAVE TO MEASURE.

TO SPEAK OF THE INTERESTING ASPECT OF LIGHTING IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE SOME CRACKED. SOME GUARDRAILS.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. WHAT I WANT TO SEE OUT OF THESE ORDINANCES WHEN HE PASSES TO THE CITY COUNCIL, I WANT AN ORDINARY CITIZEN TO DISCUSS THAT, TO BE ABLE TO READ THIS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE EXPECTATION IS. I DON'T WANT THEM TO HAVE TO GO HIRE AN ENGINEER TO COME OUT AND SAY, AM I AND COMPLIANCE? YOU KNOW, MY DECORATIVE POLE, BY THE 6-FOOT POLE, AM I GOING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE? I WANT THEM TO READ IT AND UNDERSTAND AND NOT GET TOO TECHNICAL.

>> THAT'S A VERY VALID STATEMENT.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I THINK THAT THAT IS --

>> UNFORTUNATELY WAS SOME COMPONENTS OF ORDINANCES, THEY ARE TECHNICAL AND YOU CANNOT AVOID IT.

HOWEVER, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE PLANS EXAMINERS.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE THE BUILDING TEAM, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICES. NOW THIS IS NOT JUST MEN TO BE THROWN OUT OR A PROCESS OF EDUCATION AS WELL.

>> TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IF SOMEBODY CALLED CODE ENFORCEMENT ON YOUR LIGHTS AND CODE CAME OUT THERE AND TOOK THE MEASUREMENTS AND WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS TO PROVIDE IN THE ORDINANCE AND FINDS THAT YOU ARE HIGHER THAN WHAT IS ALLOWED AND TAKES SOME SPRAY PAINT AND PUT THAT OVER, AND THEN GET IT SHIELDED SO THAT

YOU ARE WITHIN THOSE. >> BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A TWO COMPONENTS, THE SECOND IS SHIELDING.

AND THAT'S WHAT I HAD TO DO IS -- WITH THESE PROPOSALS -- THERE ARE SOME HOUSES IN ROWLETT

FILING. >> I DON'T DISAGREE, AND FACT THAT WAS ONE OF THE STATEMENTS I WAS BROUGHT UP PRIOR TO THE DISCUSSION WAS LET'S DISCUSS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, IS THIS WHAT IS GOING TO BE RETROACTIVE? ABSOLUTELY, IT IS.

IT IS GOING TO BE COMPLAINT BASED.

SO SOMEBODY COMPLAINS AND SAYS I AM SEEING AN ISSUE HERE --

>> I WILL SAY THIS NOW, I REALLY OBJECT TO CLAWS AND ORDINANCES THAT ARE SO BROAD THAT EVERYBODY WERE MANY, MANY PEOPLE ARE IN VIOLATION AND IT'S JUST SELECTED ENFORCEMENT AND I DON'T LIKE TO HAVE LAWS WHERE EVERYONE IS IN VIOLATION.

IF YOU LOOK DOWN ANY STREET IN ROWLETT, 80 OR 90% OF THE HOUSES WILL BE IN VIOLATION OF A RETROACTIVE -- I MEAN, FORGET ABOUT HOW BRIGHT THINGS ARE, IT IS NOT SHIELDED IF THAT PORCH LIGHT IS NOT SHIELDED FACING THE STREET, YOU

ARE IN VIOLATION. >> AND THIS WILL BE A VIOLATION.

>> OH, YES. >> I DOUBT THAT SERIOUSLY.

>> WOULD BE. >> BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GO TO YOUR PROPERTY, ACROSS THE STREET, THIS PROPERTY LINE.

>> NO, IT'S NOT A MEASUREMENT, IT'S THE SHIELD ISSUE.

THAT IS NOT SHIELDED. >> I DON'T THINK THAT LIGHT FIXTURE WILL REDUCE A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF LIGHT.

>> DOES NOT MATTER HOW MUCH LIGHT IT PRODUCES IT ALSO SAYS IT HAS TO BE SHIELDED. REGARDLESS OF HOW BRIGHT IT IS.

>> SHIELDED WITH WHAT. >> I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THESE ARE MERELY DISCUSSION ITEMS, THAT'S WHY WE ARE HAVING A WORK SESSION, ABSOLUTELY WHATEVER YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS RELATED TO THIS IS WHAT WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING COUNSEL.

>> I THINK WE ARE MISSING THE POINTS.

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>> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EXEMPTIONS FOR EMERGENCY LIGHTING, THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE, BECAUSE YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE GLARE COMING FROM THAT IF YOU HAVE DRIVEN BY HIGHWAY CONSTRUCTION, YOU ARE BLINDED BY IT IF YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF ASTIGMATISM.

SO ALL SURROUNDING CITIES, DALLAS COUNTY, THE STATE OF TEXAS. ALL EMERGENCY TEMPORARY LIGHTING IS EXEMPTED FROM STANDARD GLARE AND SHIELDING ORDINANCES FOR EMERGENCY REPAIRS, UTILITY OF THE ROADS THEY WORK ON A GUIDELINE WITH UNSHIELDED LIGHTS PERMITTED SAYING THEY DO NOT SHINING DIRECTLY INTO THE EYES OF PASSING DRIVERS, YOU CAN TAKE THAT FOR WHAT WE SEE EVERY NIGHT HERE.

CONSTRUCTION AFTER HOURS, NIGHTTIME WORK, THE ASSOCIATED LIGHTING, THIS IS KIND OF BEEN HOW THINGS HAVE BEEN HANDLED IN THE PAST AND IT IS NOT REALLY CODIFIED.

NIGHTTIME WORK, ASSOCIATED LIGHTING, ONLY PERMITTED BY THE BUILDING OFFICIAL WITH WRITTEN APPROVAL, BUT THERE HAS TO BE AN URGENT NECESSITY. IT'S PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE, IF YOU ARE TRYING TO GET SOME PLUMBING WORK DONE ON A HOUSE BEFORE THE TENANTS ARRIVE OR FORWARD JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A WATER LEAK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YES, WE UNDERSTAND THE IDEA OF HAVING LIGHTING. BUT THEN ALSO THE BUILDING OFFICIALS CAN SAY TRY TO PREVENT GLARE FROM GOING ON IN THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, USE SHIELDS, USE -- CORRECT LIGHTING, DON'T GO OVERBOARD.

SO IN THIS CASE, WE LEAVE IT TO THE BUILDING OFFICIALS.

>> CAN I INTERJECT FOR JUST ONE SECOND? WHAT MICHAEL IS ALLUDING TO IS WE NEED TO HAVE MORE DEFINED AND REFINED AFTER OUR CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE REFORMING OF THAT EXERCISE NOW, BECAUSE THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT IN THE BUILDING CODES IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL CODE THAT TALKS ABOUT POSSIBLE RIGHT AWAY AFTER HOURS WORK AS WELL.

SO THAT IT'S AN ORDINANCE THAT NEEDS TO BE TACKLED IN ITSELF.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY ON TARGET AS IT RELATES TO LIGHTING, AS IT RELATES TO AFTER-HOURS CONSTRUCTION OR EMERGENCY CONSTRUCTION AND THOSE DEFINITIONS, YES, THEY DO HAVE AN IMPACT ON THIS, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENT FOR COMMERCIAL AND

RESIDENTIAL LIGHTING STATUS. >> NOW WE WILL GO ON TO RESIDENTIAL VERSUS NONRESIDENTIAL, AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE THIS ILLUSTRATION, BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF AS YOU ARE WORKING YOUR WAY AROUND EACH ONE, YOU CAN SEE THIS IS YOUR BUSINESS CAMPUS WHERE THEY LIKE TO LIGHT UP THEIR BUILDING AND BE VERY SHOW OFF THAT THEY CAN AFFORD A BIG LIGHT BILL, BUT IF YOU NOTICE DOWN HERE NEAR THE WATER FEATURE THERE ARE LIGHTS THAT ARE SHIELDED DIRECTED IN THE WALKWAYS, AND KIND OF THE LIGHT DOES SHINE OUT, BUT IT IS MADE TO BE LESS OBTRUSIVE. WHEN WE COME OVER HERE, THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF JUST SECURITY LIGHTING ON A BUILDING AT NIGHT.

THEY HAVE LIT UP THEIR FACADE, BUT NOT VERY MUCH.

FOR THE SAFETY OF THEIR EMPLOYEES, BUT IT'S NOT LIT UP LIKE THAT SHOPPING CENTER IN THE BACKGROUND WHERE YOU CAN SEE EVERY BUILDING, EVERY LOOK AND CRANNY.

THIS IS BUILT FOR THE SAFETY OF THE OCCUPANTS OF THE SHOPPING CENTER. THIS IS FOR THE SAFETY OF THE STAFF JUST GETTING IN THEIR CARS AT NIGHT THAT IS A LOT LESS INTRUSIVE. WHEN WE COME OVER HERE, THIS IS RESIDENTIAL LIGHTING, BUT IT IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND WE CAN SEE THAT WITH MULTIFAMILY LIGHTING FOR THE SAFETY OF THE OCCUPANTS COMING UP MORE PEOPLE MOVING ABOUT AT NIGHT, HE WANTS A LITTLE BIT MORE LIGHTING, BUT THEY STILL OF THE SHIELDING AND IS INSTRUCTED DOWNWARDS, NOT TOWARDS PEOPLE'S WINDOWS, THAT'S PRETTY ADMIRABLE. AND NATURAL ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS CALLS THIS THE PERFECT LIGHTING FOR A HOME AT NIGHTS, SO IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THAT STORY YOU DON'T REALLY SEE THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR IS NOT REALLY LIT UP, BUT THEY HAVE SOME DOME LIGHTING, IT'S A WARM COLOR, IT'S NOT EXTREMELY OBTRUSIVE, HOPEFULLY IT TURNS OFF AFTER EVERYBODY GOES TO BED ARE MOSTLY TURNS OFF. TALKING ABOUT WARM LIGHT, THIS IS A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT WE HAVE HERE THAT TURNS OFF, BUT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE WARM LIGHT, THE COOL

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AND THEN WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS, WHICH IS THE FUTURE IS HERE, WE HAVE L.E.D. LIGHTING, PEOPLE CAN CHANGE THE LIGHTING FOR THE SEASON, FOR THE MOOD AND SO YOU END UP WITH LANDSCAPE LIGHTING THAT IS NOT YOUR TRADITIONAL WHITE LIGHT ANYMORE OR LIKE WARM LIGHTS, YELLOWISH COLOR, PEOPLE CAN DO ANY COLOR UNDER THE SUN, SO JUST LOOKING AT THAT AND THINK ABOUT THAT, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WILL LOOK AT THROUGH HERE AND SO WE WILL TALK ABOUT HOLIDAY AND SEASONAL LIGHTING FIRST, A GOOD QUESTION FOR Y'ALL IS HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH? DO WE NEED TO CONSIDER HOURS OF OPERATION FOR HOLIDAY LIGHTING? DO WE NEED TO CONSIDER DATES OF OPERATION? 45 DAYS BEFORE, 30 DAYS BEFORE, 15 DAYS AFTER, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO MAKE OUR NEIGHBORS TAKE DOWN THE CHRISTMAS LIGHTS.

IT IS VALENTINE'S DAY JUST A LITTLE TOO LATE? AND IS VALENTINE'S DAY SOMETHING THAT WE WANT EVERYBODY TO LIGHT THEIR HOUSES UP FOR OR IS IT JUST HALLOWEEN AND CHRISTMAS?% OR ARE THERE OTHER HOLIDAYS. THE PICTURE AT THE BOTTOM ON THE TREES, THIS IS ACTUALLY FOR EASTER.

SO THE CITY PARK THEY DECORATED THEIR FOR EASTER THESE MULTICOLOR PASTEL LIGHTS, WHICH IS INTERESTING.

BUT NOT A SPECIFIC HOLIDAY, OR NOT -- WELL, SPRING TIME I THINK WAS THE OFFICIAL COME BUT IT WAS RIGHT AROUND EASTER. SO WE NEED TO CONSIDER IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO A GRISWOLD STYLE CHRISTMAS DISPLAY, DO WE HAVE A PERMIT FOR SPECIAL LIGHTING DISPLAYS? FOR EXTREME CASES, SOMETHING LIKE WHAT IS IN THE ABOVE WHERE THE CUSTOMER WILL AGREE TO A TIME AND DAY AND THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS NEED TO AGREE TO THE DISPLAY? ALSO THE TRAFFIC THAT IS COMING WITH IT.

SO GIVE US A CONCEPT PLAN, DOES NOT HAVE TO BE PERFECT, JUST GIVE US AN IDEA OF HOW BRIGHT, WHETHER IT WILL BE MOVING LIGHTS, STATIONARY LIGHTS, MUSIC, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE IF WE HAVE A SPECIAL LIGHTING DISPLAY PERMANENT.

I AM OPEN TO HEARING WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT.

IT'S ALSO GOING ALLOW THE POLICE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES TO PREPARE FOR AND ENFORCE TRAFFIC CONTROLS IF YOU HAVE DRIVEN AROUND AND SEEN PEOPLE DRIVING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS LOOKING AT CHRISTMAS LIGHTS, SOMETIMES NEIGHBORS GET FED UP AT THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC. IT'S A BIG THING IN THE NEWS THIS YEAR OVER IN DALLAS AND COULD BE A BIG THING HERE, LET'S TRY TO GET IN FRONT OF IT IF WE CAN.

AND THEN WE WILL TALK ABOUT NONCONFORMING LIGHTING.

NONCONFORMING LIGHTING, NOBODY HAS A BAT SIGNAL YET, IF THEY DO IT WILL BE NONCONFORMING. SO ANY NEW NONCONFORMING LIGHTING, NOT ALLOWED, SO WRITING THE ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS NONCONFORMANCE. EXISTING NONCONFORMANCE.

SO WHERE ARE WE GOING TO -- I WOULD LIKE SOME ADVICE FROM YOU ALL ON HOW WE SET A TIMELINE FOR --

>> AND WIN A JUMP IN THERE. SO THIS GOES BACK TO WHAT WE ARE SAYING, IT IS RETROACTIVE IN A SENSE, THAT IF THERE IS A COMPLAINT, THAN THAT LIGHTING WOULD HAVE TO COME INTO PERFORMANCE. IF THERE IS AN EXISTING SITUATION, WE WILL NOT GO BACK AND SAY, YOU NEED TO CORRECT THIS. SO THAT ORDINANCE HAS TO BE WRITTEN AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE IT BECOMES -- SO LET'S SAY YOU LOOK AT MY LIGHTING AND YOU SAY THAT'S HORRIBLE, SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT THAT.% AND I AM NONCOMPLIANT, THEN I WOULD HAVE TO MAKE IT COMPLIANT.

>> NOT BECAUSE IT IS IRRITATING, BUT IF SOMEBODY DOES NOT LIKE

YOU. >> COME ON, YOU LIKE ME.

>> IT'S A LIGHTING ENFORCEMENT. >> I DISAGREE WITH YOU.

BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION TOO, BECAUSE OUR CODE TEAM, YES, WE ARE PROACTIVE, HOWEVER IF THERE ARE COMPLAINTS, WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THE COMPLAINTS.

WE HAVE TO VERIFY IS THE COMPLAINT VALID, AND THEN WHAT IS THE COURSE OF ACTION? OR THE COMPLAINT COULD BE INVALID TOO, SO YES, ABSOLUTELY THAT WILL HAPPEN AND YES IT

STILL IS HAPPENING. >> MY ISSUE IS ON THE FIXTURE

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>> UP TO THE COMMISSIONER TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

>> WHICH WOULD ADJUST HIS LIGHT. >> HE CAN KEEP HIS LIGHT.

>> I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT ONE BIT.

THAT'S WHAT I SAID EARLIER. >> SO I GUESS THE LAST PART IS TALKING ABOUT THE PLACEMENT LIGHTING, IF SOMEBODY IS GOING TO GO BACK THROUGH AND THEY HAVE 150 WATTS L.E.D. SPOTLIGHT THAT SHINES UP THEIR ENTIRE BACKYARD AND SHINES IN THE NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARD, YOU KNOW, LIGHTS UP THE LAKE, WHEN THAT LIGHT BULB BURNS OUT, YOU MIGHT WANT TO SAY, IT'S TIME TO TAKE IT OUT.

>> YOU WON'T KNOW THAT, THEY WON'T COME TO YOU.

SPEAK UNLESS IT IS COMPLAINT DRIVEN.

>> THIS WILL HAVE TO BE COMPLAINT DRIVEN COMPLIANCE.

AND NEW DEVELOPMENT. NEW DEVELOPMENT WILL COMPLY, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL SHOULD THIS --

>> TILL A HOMEOWNER MOVES IN AND PUTS UP A LIGHT THAT HE WANTS WITH SECURITY AND THEN AGAIN THERE IS NO COMPLAINT TO.

>> EXACTLY RIGHT. SPEAK ON ONE OF THE THINGS IS TALKING ABOUT NONCONFORMING LIGHTING AND HOW PEOPLE VIEW ROWLETT AND THE LAKE. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS PHOTO HERE, THIS IS A VIEW OF ROCKWELL FROM ROWLETT, THAT'S LOOKING OUT TOWARDS THE ROCK WALL, BUT THEY ARE NOT SHIELDING LIGHTING GOING OUT ON THE LAKE, SOME WOULD SAY IT IS FESTIVE, BUT SOME PEOPLE FEEL LIKE MAYBE THAT'S A TOUCH TOO MUCH, THE NEXT PHOTO OVER, THIS IS FROM WALK WALL LOOKING OVER AT ROWLETT.

>> OH, COME ON, THE TIME AT NIGHT.

>> AND THIS IS WHERE THINGS ARE SUBJECTIVE.

>> EXACTLY. AND GETTING THOSE CALCULATIONS.

>> IT LIT UP THE SKY. >> BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS NO GREAT BIG GLARING LIGHTS COMING OUT ON THE LAKE OTHER THAN TRAFFIC ACROSS THE PARKWAY. I THINK IT'S GOOD INDICATOR OF THE ATTITUDE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING ON THE LAKE THEY WANT IT

TO BE MORE NATURAL AND LESS -- >> BUT THE OTHER THING THEY ARE TOO AS YOU ARE LOOKING AT A RESIDENTIAL STRIPPER VERSUS A

COMMERCIAL STRIP, SO -- >> I AGREE, YES.

>> IT'S BIG SPOTLIGHT. >> I THINK EVERY HOUSE SHOULD HAVE A LIGHTHOUSE THAT SHINES A LIGHT.

>> WE DIGRESS, LET'S CONTINUE PLEASE.

>> SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT SPOTLIGHT FOR A SECOND.

I WOULD HAVE NO OBJECTIONS IF WE ADDRESS A SPOTLIGHT OR SPOTLIGHTS AND I CAN SEE THAT THERE WOULD BE A SPECIFIC TIME

AND PLACE FOR THAT IN THE CITY. >> I REMEMBER AT MY SON AND DAUGHTERS PROMS OR SENIOR PROMS THAT THEY HAD A COUPLE OF SPOTLIGHTS, THAT WAS AT ROWLETT HIGH SCHOOL FOR INSTANCE, AND HE COULD CONTROL IT THAT SAYS AT DUSK TO 9:00 P.M., YOU SHUT THEM OFF, I WOULD NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

WE HAD SPOTLIGHTS TWO OF THEM, AND THEY WENT AROUND.

>> WHAT THAT NOT BE ON AN EVENT PERMANENT?

>> THAT COULD BE A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT, IT COULD SECURE A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT AND HAVE IT THROUGH THE COMMUNITY CYCLE.

>> IF HE DID THAT, THEN THAT'S FINE.

>> YOU WANT TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT TOO.

>> STILL SHINING AT A REASONABLE TIME.

>> MR. KING, IS THAT ALL YOU HAVE FOR US?

>> THAT IS ALL I HAVE, I JUST WANT YOUR INPUT NOW.

>> BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WILL GO AHEAD AND WE HAVE ONE PERSON WANTS TO SPEAK TO THIS. THIS IS MARK, YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES IF YOU WANT TO GO UP THERE AND TALK.

YES. JUST DON'T SPIT ON IT.

>> WE WILL START A TIMER. LET MARK KNOW WHEN HE CAN START.

SPEAK ON TRYING TO GET YOUR PRESENTATION UP.

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>> DID YOU GET SOME OF THAT? >> I THINK NOW, THAT'S COUNSELS -- THAT'S COUNSEL'S PRESENTATION.

WE HAVE RECEIVED THAT. YES.

>> OKAY. >> OKAY.

BEGINNING COMMISSION, THE NEED TO UPDATE THE CITIES 77510 IS

IMPERATIVE. >> I WILL STOP YOU FOR A SECOND, PLEASE, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR CITY RESIDENTS AND THEN CONTINUE

CONTINUE. >> MARK TACIT, ROWLETT, TEXAS, GOOD EVENING, THE NEED TO UPDATE IT IS IMPERATIVE, TO LONG CITIZENS HAVE BEEN BATTERED BY OR HAVING TO DEAL WITH EXCESSIVE LIGHTING OR MISUSE THEREOF, AND THE NEED TO CORRECT WORDING IN THE RDC SECTION 77-510 UPDATE CANNOT BE STRESSED ENOUGH, ATTENTION TO DETAIL MUST BE ADDRESSED WHICH IS SEVERELY LACKING IN ITS CURRENT FORM, ATTENTION TO GLARE, LIGHT TRESPASSING, OVER LIGHTING FOR THE NEEDS AND ILLUMINATION LIMITS HELD TO THE HIGHEST STANDARDS WITH NO SUBJECTIVITY.

I'VE INCLUDED TWO CITY IS, HEATH AND PLANO THAT BOTH HAVE STRONG RULES, HEATH WHICH IS A CITY HAS SOME OF THE BEST AND STRONGEST LIMITS FOR SINGLE-FAMILY LUMINAIRES, THE NEED FOR STRONG RULES IS ESPECIALLY NEEDED ON THE LAKEFRONT HOMES ARE EVEN MORE DIRE, THE LAKEFRONT HOMES SHOULD NOT BE ANY MORE THAN .10 FLINT CANDLES, AND COUNSEL SAID .25, I SENT A VIDEO TO EVERYONE TODAY THAT WAS ACTUALLY MY NEIGHBORS SHORT VIDEO OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY A NURSING HOME GLARING INTO BACK YARD.

THE MAYOR TOOK CARE OF IT. IT'S BEEN FIXED, BUT THE VIDEO OF IT WITH A LIGHT METER, IT IS ONLY .12.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL, ESPECIALLY COMMERCIAL, IT'S GOING TO BE TOO BRIGHT AND RESIDENTIAL. THE FOLLOWING MUST BE ADDRESSED AND A FIRM DEFINITION. AND NOT BE SUBJECTIVE, GLARE, WEBSTER'S DICTIONARY COME TO SHINE WITH HARSH UNCOMFORTABLE BRIGHT LIGHT. IT SHOULD NOT BE SUBJECTIVE.

LIGHT TRESPASS OVER THE PROPERTY LINES CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN. IF THERE IS A SHADOW PRODUCED, IT IS TRESPASSING. OVER LIGHTING, TOO MUCH LIGHT FOR A NORMAL USE. IF YOU ARE -- AND THIS IS WHERE I MAY BE THE ORDINANCE COULD DO BETTER, RIGHT? IF IT IS A FRONT ENTRY HOME OR REAR ENTRY HOME, YOU HAVE DIFFERENT LIGHTING, OF A REARGUARD COMING WOULD HAVE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS ESPECIALLY WITH THE LAKE, IT'S A VERY DARK ENVIRONMENT.

OKAY, LIGHTS NEED TO BE POINTED DOWN AT 45 DEGREES PERPENDICULAR

TO THE SLOPE. >> THANK YOU, SIR, YOUR

3 MINUTES HAVE EXPIRED. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK? I WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THAT.

BY THE WAY, I HAVE NOT CHECKED ABOUT MY EMAIL ADDRESS.

>> WE WILL DOUBLE CHECK THAT. >> WE WILL RESEND AS WELL.

WE WILL DOUBLE CHECK EMAIL. >> SO MR. KING --

>> SO THIS ORDINANCE IS SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE NEXT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING BETWEEN THE SIX ELEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT AND AN ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WHAT% WOULD LIKE TO PUT FORTH IN THE PROPOSAL, SO AGAIN, IT IS MERELY A PROPOSAL AT THIS TIME. WE ARE LOOKING FOR THAT AND PUT TO AGAIN, IF -- I'M GOING TO THROW THIS OUT% THERE, IF WE ARE STILL NOT READY AND WHERE HIS DESIRE ANOTHER WORK SESSION, WE CAN DO THAT TOO, SO WE ARE SEEKING YOUR

INPUT NOW. >> I'M GOING TO SEND EVERYONE A DRAFT IN A WORD DOCUMENT OF THE ORDINANCE.

SO IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY EDITS, YOU CAN ADD TO IT AND SEND IT BACK TO US. I HOPE YOU ALL CAN DO IT IN ABOUT A WEEK SO THAT WE CAN GET SOMETHING DONE.

>> WE SHOULD ALSO HAVE A WORK SESSION PRIOR TO THE DOCKET IF

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YOU CHOOSE TO DO THAT? >> IF THERE IS ANY HARD AND FAST THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO RECOMMEND RIGHT NOW, I AM

WILLING TO TAKE YOUR ADVICE. >> GO AHEAD.

>> SO JUST LET ME MAKE SURE WE GOT THIS RIGHT PAIRED WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ON THE 26.

>> IT IS SCHEDULED FOR THE 26. >> WHEN CAN YOU GET US A WORD DOCUMENT? TOMORROW?

>> SO IT WOULD BE NICE IF EVERYONE COULD REVIEW THAT WORD DOCUMENT AND MAKE THE CHANGES THEY WANT AND GET BACK TO MR. KING BY THE 18TH, WOULD THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME TO PULL SOMETHING TOGETHER AND TAKE OFF 27 -- SEVEN INPUTS AND TRY TO COME UP WITH A FINAL DOCUMENT? IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, IT WOULD BE NICE TO GO AHEAD AND SEND THAT OUT TO US ALONG WITH THE PACKAGE FOR THE 26, SO THAT WE HAVE TIME TO READ THROUGH IT AND HAVE A WORKING SESSION BEFORE THE 26 MEETING IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR WHATNOT?

>> MODIFICATION, YOU WOULD LIKE THE DRAFT ORDINANCE WHERE WE WILL HAVE A WORK SESSION THE 26 AND MOVE FORWARD WITH A PUBLIC HEARING TO WHERE WE HAVE NOTICED NO NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS STRINGENT, WITH A TEXT AMENDMENT, SO THUS WHY WE ARE MAKING THESE COMMENTS AND PROVIDED THIS COMMENTARY WE HAVE TO STALL ON THE PRIVATE PROPERTY TO MAKE SURE WE COMPLY WITH THESE CHANGES. WE WILL BE DOING THAT TOMORROW

FOR THE AMENDMENT OF THE 26. >> OKAY, SO WE WILL GET YOU WHAT

YOU NEED TOMORROW MORNING. >> AND I ASKED THE COMMISSION

>> , PERFECT. >> AND I CAN CLOSE ON THAT AND

SEND THAT EMAIL. >> AND I HAVE A QUESTION, FOR MY OWN EDUCATION, WHY HAS THIS COME TO US FIRST AND THEN WHY DOES IT

GO BACK TO CITY COUNCIL? >> BECAUSE WE ARE THE PLANNING.

>> BECAUSE THE CITY HAS ASSIGNED -- THE CITY COUNCIL HAS ASSIGNED A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, ANY DEVELOPMENT CODE ANY ZONING CODE REQUIRES A RECOMMENDATION

OF GUIDANCE. >> GOT IT.

>> YES, SIR. MY ONLY ISSUE THAT I CARE MOST ABOUT IS AS I READ IT, A NONCONFORMING, EXISTING NONCONFORMING FIXTURE THAT IS NOT SHIELDED IS OKAY AS LONG AS IT PASSES THEY LUMINAIRES TEST ON THE PROPERTY LINE.

>> IT'S OKAY. UNTIL SOMEBODY SAYS, NO.

>> UNTIL SOMEBODY COMPLAINS. >> IT'S NOT SHIELDED.

IT IS MEASURED AND A LOSS BELOW OF .25 IT IS OKAY.

SO REALLY TO TAKE CARE OF THE MAJORITY OF HOUSES THAT ARE

NONCONFORMING. >> DOES NOT CREATE THE

NONCONFORMING. >> IT WOULD NOT CREATE A NONCONFORMITY IF YOU GO ON A MEASURE.

>> IT'S NOT THAT THE LIGHT IS NOT SHIELDED IS WHAT YOU ARE

THINKING IS OUT OF IT? >> IS THAT RIGHT? EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE SHIELDED. YOU CANNOT HAVE ANY LIGHT THAT IS NOT SHIELDED FACING THE STREET.

>> ONLY A CONSTRUCTION ZONE. >> BUT EXISTING, THEY WILL UPDATE THAT TOO? IF IT APPLIES TO EXISTING

HOUSES? >> THIS IS WHY WE ARE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION, SO WHAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE

COMMISSION? >> I WOULD AGREE WITH THEM THAT THE SHIELD IN THE RESIDENTIAL SHOULD BE IN NEW CONSTRUCTION AND NOT TO BACK UP. BECAUSE THE ONE LIGHT AND THE CITY IS ON THE BRICK AS YOU COME UP ON THE PORCH, IT'S NOT SHIELDED. JUST LIKE THE OTHERS, IT IS A MATCHING DEAL, BUT STRAIGHT OUT, IT'S NOT SHIELDED FROM THE

STREET. >> THE QUESTION WOULD BE THEN, WHAT IS THE INTENSITY AT YOUR PROPERTY LINE?

>> RIGHT. DOES THAT EXCEED THE .25 CANDLES, THAN IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE SHIELDED.

>> I THINK THAT'S WAY OVER A. >> AND WE ARE GOING TO GET THIS

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>> PRETTY MUCH. >> NO, THAT'S NOT --

>> I DON'T WANT TO RELY ON PEOPLE --

VIGILANTE IS GOING AROUND -- >> I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A CONSENSUS OF WHAT THIS GROUP FEELS LIKE IT IS AS FAR AS --

I KNOW WHAT YOU FEEL LIKE. >> I AGREE.

>> YOU GUYS MUST REALLY UPSET A LOT OF PEOPLE IF YOU ARE WORRIED

ABOUT THAT. >> YES, SO IF NOBODY COMPLAINS,

DON'T FIX IT. >> IF EVERY MEMBER ON YOUR BLOCK HAS A FRONT PORCH LIGHT THAT THEY LEAVE ON ALL NIGHT, THEN AND SOMEONE IS JUST GOING TO MOAN BECAUSE YOURS IS NOT SHIELDED, THEN AGAIN, I DON'T LIKE LAWS OR ORDINANCES THAT ON THEIR FACE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE IN VIOLATION OF IT.

>> LET'S LOOK AT IT THIS WAY. THE REASON WHY WE NEED AN ORDINANCE IS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN INTENSE LIGHT OR A

DISTURBANCE, RIGHT? >> ANY LIGHT POLLUTION.

>> THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE IS DEFINED.

NOW IT IS IF YOU DETERMINE THE INTENSE, NOW THE COMMISSION IS GOING THROUGH IDENTIFYING WHAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION IN TERMS OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED HERE.

>> I'M VERY HAPPY WITH BEING JUDGED ON THE INTENSITY OF THE

LIGHT. >> WHEN I AM SAYING IS AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT CREATE A NUISANCE IT IS OKAY.

>> WHO IS GOING TO BE CALLING UP?

>> IF THE LIGHT IS TOO BRIGHT -- >> HE IS UPSET BECAUSE HE PUTS HIS TRASH CANS UP, BECAUSE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT

UPSET. >> BUT WILL GO OUT THERE ARE --

>> I DIGRESS. >> BUT AS IT'S DRAFTED, IF THAT LIGHT DOES NOT HAVE A SHIELD, ARE IN VIOLATION.

IS THAT CORRECT? >> NO, I DO NOT READ THAT AT ALL

ALL. >> NEW CONSTRUCTION, YES, EXISTING HAS TO IF THERE IS A COMPLAINT, IT WILL BE COMPLAINT BASED, WE ARE NOT GOING TO GO OUT AND SEND NOTICES SAYING YOU HAVE TO CONFORM WITH CURRENT -- BUT IF THERE IS A COMPLAINT, IF THERE IS A NUISANCE COMPLAINS, IN TERMS OF THE GLARE AND ILLUMINATION FROM THE FIXTURE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT.

NOT NECESSARILY REPLACE THE FIXTURE.

>> CAN THEY TAKE A COMPLAINT BECAUSE IT IS NOT SHIELDED HAS

NO CONDITION WITH THE COMPLAINT? >> WE WOULD QUALIFY THE

ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS THAT. >> I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, SO WE NEED TO HAVE A SECTION IN THERE TO

IDENTIFY -- >> I MEAN, THE WHOLE IDEA BEHIND THE SHIELDING OF THE LIGHT IS TO PREVENT IT FROM BEING OUTSIDE OF THE LEVEL OF INTENSITY IN WHATEVER PLACE.

SO AGAIN, A PORCH LIGHT, JUST LIKE I HAVE ON THE FRONT OF MY HOUSE TWO LARGE LIGHTS THAT STAY ON, BUT AT THE STREET LEVEL.

>> BUT AT THE STREET LEVEL. >> SEND THEM OUT THERE.

>> THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE JUST A BULB, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M

SAYING? >> AS I SAID LAST TIME, THIS IS NOT AN EASY SUBJECT. IT'S NOT AN EASY SUBJECT AT ALL, AND WHILE WE ARE HERE DISCUSSING, BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO GET US TO A CONSENSUS HERE, LET'S TALK ABOUT HOLIDAY LIGHTING FOR A QUICK SECOND. SO YOU KNOW, FIRST WE HAVE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WHAT WE CONSIDER HOLIDAY LIGHTING, AND REQUIRE SPECIAL PERMITS, IS IT GOING TO BE IF IT IS A HOLIDAY, THE LIGHTS CAN'T BE ON, THEY HAVE TO START AT LEAST 30 DAYS PRIOR TO THE HOLIDAY AND BE DOWN 15 DAYS AFTER THE HOLIDAY?

KNOCK ANY EARLIER THAN 30 DAYS? >> AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, CHRISTMAS STARTS, ST. PATRICK'S DAY, SAINT NEXT DAY, STARTS ON SAINT NEXT DAY WITH EACH IS DECEMBER 6 AND ENDS

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>> I WAS GOING TO SAY FOR CHRISTMAS IT COULD BE FROM

THANKSGIVING UNTIL JANUARY 5. >> I DON'T THINK YOU CAN PICK A CERTAIN HOLIDAY. I THINK IT HAS TO BE A GENERAL -- BECAUSE THERE ARE DIFFERENT

HOLIDAYS -- >> THEY ARE DENOMINATIONS OF OTHER HOLIDAYS ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

>> DEPENDS ON WHAT CALENDAR WE USE.

COME ON. >> YOU CAN'T JUST USE TEXAS STATE HOLIDAYS. AND AVOID PICKING --

>> JUST SAY -- >> THE MORE GENERAL THE BETTER.

>> TEXAS STATE HOLIDAYS PLUS HALLOWEEN.

>> AND COVER, BUT YOU HAVE BEEN POSITIONED TO CHOOSE.

>> AND I WILL SAY SOMETHING, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT RIGHT NOW, TEXAS STATE HOLIDAYS ARE IN THE CHRISTIAN CALENDAR, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE NOT CHRISTIANS, SO YOU HAVE THE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS IN OCTOBER, THAT'S A BIG ONE, YOU HAVE THE CHINESE NEW YEAR, THAT IS A HUGE ONE ALSO.

>> JUST HAD CINCO DE MAYO, PEOPLE HAD LITTLE RED GREEN WHATEVER, SO I MEAN, YEAH, SO I'M TRYING TO GET A CONSENSUS OF

WHAT EVERYBODY IS THINKING. >> WE WANT TO HAVE A COMMUNITY AT LARGE THAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO DETERMINE A LOT BROADER IF YOU

DON'T DO A SPECIFIC LIGHT. >> THIS IS PRETTY BROAD, THIS IS THE TEXAS STATE HOLIDAY CALENDAR CALENDAR.

SO -- >> SO THE MORE GENERAL, THE

AND COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE TO -- >> REGARDLESS OF WHAT?

>> ENFORCEMENT. >> WELL, I THINK THE OTHER THING IS IF WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT DAYS ARE A HOLIDAY, THEN I AM NOT EXACTLY SURE ASKING WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO AND HOW MUCH INTENSITY IN ALL OF THIS -- AND I THINK THE BEST THING IS TO LIMIT THE TIME FRAME THAT THEY CAN BE ON, SO --

>> AND THAT IS EXACTLY, WE BROUGHT THIS UP EARLY THAT CAME UP, SO WE WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME INFO AND A STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT IT REMAINS A GENERAL CONSENSUS.

>> AND I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ENFORCEMENTS -- THAT COULD BE COINCIDING WITH THE LIGHTING.

AND I KNOW TREND TO GET A CONSENSUS HERE, 10:00 YOU SHUT

IT OFF, OR ON IT. >> LET'S GO BACK ONE STEP OR ANOTHER, IF WE -- WE SAW A SLIDE TO THEIR THAT ONCE THE CITY SAYS ON YOUR LIGHTING, OUTDOOR LIGHTING, 11:00. SO IF WE DO 11:00, THEN --

>> SHOW A SET SLIDE, THAT WAS THE SECOND SLIDE.

SECOND OR THIRD SLIDE. YES, OH.

>> YES, SO THIS IS NOT SPECIFIC TO RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL SUM IS MANDATORY, SOME IS NOT. SO IT'S VERY GENERALIZED.

I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT AND LOOK AT THE TIMING.

>> AND I THINK WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HOLIDAY LIGHTING, WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FRONT PORCH LIGHTING.

>> I UNDERSTAND, BUT TO MAKE IT SIMPLE AND UNDERSTANDING FOR EVERYBODY. TYPICALLY YOU TAKE YOUR REGULAR LIGHTS DOWN AT 11:00. BUT THESE ARE OTHER CITIES, SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, WHY DON'T WE JUST SAY 10:00.

WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE TO STOP.

>> I WOULD RATHER SEE US GO TO A TIME LIKE THAT 11:00.

I THINK TEN IS TOO QUICK. IF YOU ARE OUT LOOKING AT HOLIDAY LIGHTS AT 11:00 AT NIGHT -- SOMETHING BETTER TO DO. BUT AT 10:00, YOU KNOW? YOU WOULD STILL BE DRIVING THROUGH SOME AREAS HAD 10:00.

>> LET'S SAY 11:00 IS IN THE AREA.

>> BUT IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF ILLUMINATION ILLUMINATION, YOU NEED TO CONSIDER THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE

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NEXT DOOR TO YOU. >> I UNDERSTAND.

AND THEY ARE NOT OUT DRIVING, SO I DON'T KNOW TOO MANY PEOPLE -- OF COURSE, I AM RETIRED. I DON'T HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH IT AT 5:00 LIKE I USED YOU TO GO TO WORK, BUT WHEN I DID THAT I WAS -- I DO NOT GO TO BED TILL MIDNIGHT. SO YES, I HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORS I DON'T CALL AFTER 9:00, BECAUSE THEY ARE IN BED.

YES, RECREATIONAL. SO WE WILL PUSH THE DRAFT ORDINANCE TO THE COMMISSIONER TO LOOK AT THESE CHANGES, BUT IF YOU WANT TO PUT IN YOUR THOUGHTS, PLEASE DO THAT TOO.

>> OKAY. ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?

TO SAY ABOUT IT? >> OKAY, SAYING NOTHING, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE WORK SESSION AND WE WILL RECONVENE.

I'M SORRY. WE HAVE THE BUDGET REQUEST FOR THE YEAR 2027. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THE

SAME AS IT WAS LAST YEAR. >> WONDERFUL.

DO YOU WANT TO GO SOMEWHERE THIS TIME?

>> NOW. >> DEPENDS WHERE WE WANT TO GO.

>> SO LETS IN FACT, I HAD THAT CONVERSATION JUST THE OTHER DAY FOR THE CITY MANAGER AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE FUNDS THAT ARE BUDGETED, WE NEED TO START USING THEM, WE FOCUS ON TEXAS, WE HAVE LOCAL APA PLANNING ASSOCIATION.

WE HAVE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT DO COME UP AND WE WOULD LOVE TO -- I THINK, I HAVE A SHORT PERIOD WHERE WE HAVE NOT BEEN HERE, BUT REALLY IT'S FOCUSED ON TEXAS ONE TIME OFFSHORE, SO WE REALLY NEED TO, WE WOULD LOVE TO ENCOURAGE THAT AND WE CAN START SCHEDULING THAT BEFORE YOU GUYS.

>> AS I READ, THE BACKGROUND ON THIS CONDITION, THIS REQUIREMENT

REQUIREMENT. >> YES, THE CHARTER REQUIRES YOU

TO ATTEND. >> ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS, THERE IS GOING TO BE AN APA THAT ALLOWED YOU TO DO THINGS BY I THINK IT IS THIS FALL, THIS AUGUST OR SO BY A COMPUTER AND

TYPE COURSES THERE. >> APA, SO APA HAS SEVERAL, THE TEXAS CHAPTER AND THE NATIONAL CHAPTER HAS SEVERAL RESOURCES ON THOSE SITES. WE CAN DEFTLY SOURCE THOSE AND SEND THEM TO YOU. BUT I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE LIKE OTHER CLIENTS AND COMMISSIONERS AND OTHER MUNICIPALITY AS IT IS THAT THEY ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE INTENT ON THESE AND IT IS VERY USEFUL BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY PANEL DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE VERY BENEFICIAL.

SO WE CAN DO THOSE. >> OKAY.

SO WE SEE THOSE. >> YES, WE ARE GOING TO START WORKING ON THOSE AND TRYING TO GET BACK ON TRACK.

>> YES, I THINK THAT'S THE KEY TO IT.

BECAUSE NOT EVERY BUDDY HERE IS SAVVY, NOT NECESSARILY SAVVY ENOUGH, BUT HAS THE TIME TO LOOK AT WHAT IS AVAILABLE ET CETERA, ET CETERA. BUT IF YOU GUYS KNOW SOMETHING IS IN YOUR LOCAL AREA, THIS IS COMING UP AND GIVE US A 30 DAY

HEADS UP. >> WE START WORKING ON THAT ONCE

THE NEW BUDGET KICKS IN AND -- >> WE CAN START WORKING ON IT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE NEW BUDGET, BECAUSE WE HAVE MONEY IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR WE HAVE NOT USED IT YET.

>> WE CAN IDENTIFY THAT. IS THERE -- SORRY, IS THERE A COMMISSION CONSENSUS TO PROCEED WITH THE

SAME AMOUNT? >> YES.

OKAY. LOVELY.

WE WILL THEN COORDINATE THE DIRECTION ITEMS, WHICH I CLEARLY

UNDERSTAND. >> EXCELLENT.

WITH THAT BEING SAID THEN, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND -- IF THERE IS SOMETHING -- I AM ON POST TO GO ON TO THESE CONFERENCES, I AM NOT OPPOSED TO GO ON OUT OF TOWN, BUT I WANT TO BE FRUGAL WITH THE TAXPAYER MONEY TOO.

>> SURE. ABSOLUTELY.

AND THE COMMISSIONERS TOGETHER CLOSE THE AGENDA AND MAKE SURE

THAT WE DO IT THAT WAY. >> OKAY, WE

>> GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO THE ROWLETT TEXAS AND PLANNING COMMISSION, MEETING FOR TUESDAY, MAY 12, 2026.

AS AUTHORIZED BY SESSION 551.071 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE, MAYBE HE BE CONVENED INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR CONFIDENTIAL LEGAL

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THE CITY OF ROWLETT CAN RECONVENE, REASSESS, REALIGN OR CALL AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ANY TIME PRIOR TO INPUT, IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO ATTEND IN PERSON, YOU MAY COMPLETE A CITIZENS FORMED BY 3:30 P.M. THE DAY BEFORE THE MEETING, AND LOOKING AT THE ZONING COMMISSION OR PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING.

FOR IN PERSON COMMENTS, REGISTRATION FORMS AND INSTRUCTIONS ARE LOCATED INSIDE THE DOOR AT THE CITY TO TIMBERS.

WE DO HAVE A FORD INSTA CALLED A MEETING TO ORDER IN THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS GOING TO BE CITIZENS INPUT.

AT THIS TIME, THREE-MINUTE COMMENTS WILL BE TAKEN FROM THE AUDIENCE ON ANY TOPIC, NO ACTION TAKEN BY THE COMMITTEE DURING CITIZENS INPUT. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS?

[4. Consent Agenda.]

NEXT IS THE CONSENT AGENDA, THE FOLLOWING MAY BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION. A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OR A CITIZEN MAY REQUEST ITEMS BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

OUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEM FOUR, CONSIDER APPROVING MINUTES FOR APRIL 14, 2026 REGULAR MEETING.

ITEM 4B, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAT.

I GUESS IT WILL READ THE WHOLE THING ON THE RECORD.

THE APPROXIMATELY 23.673 ACRES IS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF MERRITT ROAD AND FAYETTEVILLE AVENUE SITUATED IN THE JAMES M HAMILTON SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 544 CITY OF RELATIVE, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS. I DON'T FORESEE, CONSIDER AN APPROVAL OF AN AMENDED PLAT, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN AMENDED PLAT OF LOT 11 HOUR BLOCK THREE OF ROB AT BUSINESS PARK TWO, THE APPROXIMATELY 30-ACRE LOT LOCATED AT 445 INDUSTRIAL STREET SITUATED IN THE THOMAS PAINE SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 1165.

4D, CONSIDER AN APPROVAL OF THE AMENDMENT TO THE COIL LAKE'S TOWNHOMES PRELIMINARY PLAT, THE 11-ACRE SITE IS LOCATED NORTH MAIN STREET AND APPROXIMATELY 1250 FEET WEST OF THE PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE, IN BLOCK A LOT 2 SBC OF ROWLETT EDITION IN THE CITY OF RELATIVE, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS.

I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND REMOVE ITEM FOUR A AND 4B FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY OTHER -- TO REMOVE SOMETHING FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA?

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO REMOVE? >> I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE --

>> I'M SORRY, YOU NEED TO TURN YOUR MICROPHONE ON.

>> I LIKE TO HAVE EACH ITEM INDIVIDUAL.

>> SO YOU WANT TO REMOVE THE CONSENT AGREEMENT? ALL ITEMS. ANY OTHER REQUESTS? SORRY, YOU ARE TOO LATE, THEY ARE ALL GONE.

OKAY. WELL, WITH THAT BEING SAID THEN, WE WILL -- I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND

[4C. Consider Approval of an Amended Plat]

>> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS, SENIOR PLANNER, THE REQUEST IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT IS TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF AN AMENDED PLAT FOR LOTS 11R, BLOCK THREE OF THE RELATIVE BUSINESS PARK 2. THE APPROXIMATELY .30-ACRE LOT IS LOCATED AT 4405 INDUSTRIAL STREET IN DOWNTOWN.

THIS IS KNOWN BASED URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD PAIRED THE PURPOSE OF THE MMN IS AT THE PLAT IS TO CORRECT A VARIABLE DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENT LINE THAT APPROACHES ONTO THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. AND AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PLAT PROVIDED, THE EXISTING PLAT SHOWS THE EASEMENT UNDERNEATH

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IS BEING REQUESTED TODAY. >> THAT'S NUMBER 4, THAT'S YOU?

>> LILIANA, FOR THE EDIFICATION OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE AUDIENCE, PLEASE USE YOUR PEN AND SHOW WHERE THAT IS.

>> WAS NOT WORKING, THAT'S WHY. AND LOOKING AT THE NORTH ARROW.

AND EAST OF THE PROPERTY LINE. AND IT'S STILL A LITTLE BIT DISAPPOINTING TO SEE. AND THE EASEMENT SHOULD BE REFLECTED. UNFORTUNATELY IT'S NOT WORKING.

>> COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

>> YOU PULLED IT. >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS.

>> COMMISSIONERS, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, TRYING TO MAKE A

NOTION. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM GOING TO

MOVE TO APPROVE THIS PLAT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 4C WITH THE SECOND FROM MR. HERNANDEZ, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CALL THE BOAT, HOPEFULLY. -- WE WILL CALLED THE VOTE, HOPEFULLY.

I NEED TO FINISH MY NOTES. EVIDENTLY, TECHNOLOGY 1-STAFF A.

BY A SHOW OF HANDS. AND WITH THE SECOND IS TO APPROVE ITEM 4C, WITH A SHOW OF HANDS, ALL IN FAVOR.

[4D. Consider Approval of a Preliminary Plat Amendment]

MOVING ON TO ITEM 4D. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE COIL LAKES TOWNHOMES HONORARY PLAT, THE 11-ACRE STATE NORTH OF MAIN STREET 1200 FEET AWAY FROM THE PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE, IDENTIFIED AS BLOCK A LOT 2 SBC ROWLETT ADDITION IN THE CITY OF ROWLETT, TEXAS.

LILIANA. >> COMMISSIONERS, THE NEXT ITEM IN FRONT OF YOU IS ANOTHER AMENDMENT TO THE COIL LAKES TOWNHOMES PRELIMINARY PLAT WHICH WAS APPROVED ON APRIL OF 2024.

THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THIS PD IN JANUARY OF 2024, ESTABLISHING THE DEVELOPMENT OF 61 TOWNHOMES.

AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PRELIMINARY PLAT IN FRONT OF YOU, THE AMENDMENT IS BASICALLY TO CREATE A FACE DEVELOPMENT SO THE PHASE WILL CONSIST OF 25 LOTS.

AND APPROXIMATELY 59 ACRES. AS IT DOES HAVE 16 LOTS WITH TWO SPACE IS AT APPROXIMATELY 5 ACRES.

AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY REASON THAT THE PRELIMINARY PLAT IS

BEING AMENDED TODAY. >> COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS

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FOR STAFF? >> NO QUESTIONS.

>> I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU HAD A QUESTION ON THIS?

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AND COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU, LILIANA. ANY COMMENTS? DO WE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION BEFORE WE MAKE A COMMENT?

>> I WILL MAKE ALL MOTION TO APPROVE REQUEST OF THE

PRELIMINARY PLAT AMENDED. >> SAME.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. POLLARD, SECONDED BY -- OH, MY GOSH MR. JOBE. DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?

>> YES. >> MR. POLLARD.

>> I WANTED TO GIVE A PUBLIC EXPLANATION ABOUT THIS, THIS WAS APPROVED BEFORE I CAME ON THE COMMISSION, BUT I CAME WITH PUBLIC INPUT SPOKE AGAINST THIS, AND THIS DEVELOPMENT AND BECAUSE IT IS A PLAT AND BECAUSE IT DOES MEET WITH THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE STATE REQUIRES WILL BE VOTING FOR.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION WITH THE SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM 4D AS PRESENTED, HEARING NO MORE DISCUSSION, WE WILL CALL THE VOTE. I DID NOT SAY BY HAND, DID I? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE THEIR HAND. ANY OPPOSED, THAT PASSES 7-0, THANK YOU. ITEM 4A, CONSIDER APPROVING THE

[4A. Consider action approving the minutes.]

WITH THOSE TWO CHANGES, ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON AMENDMENTS? MR. HERNANDEZ. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

SO WITH THOSE THREE CHANGES I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO DO THAT.

MR. MICHAEL HERNANDEZ. >> APPROVING THE MINUTES.

>> DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WITH THE AMENDMENT? WELL -- OKAY, MR. BLAYDES.

JUST A SECOND. SHOW OF HANDS.

THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THE MINUTES BY A SHOW OF HANDS, ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.

[4B. Consider Approval of a Preliminary Plat]

>> 7:46, WE WILL RECONVENE. WE WILL CONSIDER ITEM 4B, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAT, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE MERIT CROSSING PRELIMINARY PLAT, THE APPROXIMATE 23.673 ACRES IS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF MERRITT ROAD IN FAYETTEVILLE AVENUE SITUATED IN THE JAMES HAMILTON SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER 544,

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>> COMMISSIONER, IN FRONT OF YOU IS TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF THE CROSSING PRELIMINARY PLAT. THIS IS IN APPROXIMATELY 23.6 ACRES AND IS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF MERRITT ROAD AND FAYETTEVILLE. THIS IS A ZONE FORM-BASED COMMERCIAL CENTER IN THIS PULMONARY PLAT IS NECESSARY TO FACILITATE THE TOWNHOMES, EIGHT OPEN SPACE LOTS AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO CARRY OUT THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE PLAT, YOU CAN SEE YOU HAVE -- AND IT IS NOT WORKING. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE TOWNHOMES ARE SCATTERED ACROSS THE DEVELOPMENTS WITH YOUR OPEN SPACE LOTS CORNER AND THROUGHOUT THE PERIMETER OF THE DEVELOPMENT. WILL BE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OR DENIAL OR CONDITION OVER THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT.

>> COMMISSIONER'S, ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NO QUESTIONS, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MR. HERNANDEZ? >> I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THE CROSSING.

>> DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION -- WAS THAT A

SECOND OR IS THAT A COMMENT? >> I WILL SECOND IT.

>> I THOUGHT YOU DID. GOOD GOLLY.

YOU DID. OKAY, WHAT IS YOUR COMMENT?

>> SO THE ONLY REASON I'M VOTING FOR THIS IS BECAUSE IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS. I DO HAVE A MESSAGE THAT I WANT ON THE PUBLIC RECORD TO THE COUNCIL.

I WAS CHAIRMAN OF THE LAST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEE BACK IN 2018-19, I MADE A PRESENTATION AND DID SOME COUNSEL IN FEBRUARY 2019. AND WE DEALT WITH NORTH SHORE, ALL OF NORTH SHORE. AS WELL AS OTHER AREAS.

AND I'M GOING TO COME IN TO THE COUNCIL THEN AND NOW COUNSEL HAS DONE IT SINCE, INCLUDING THIS ONE.

AND THAT IS THAT YOU NEEDED TO REZONE THE ENTIRE NORTH SHORE TO MEET WITH WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WANTED CITIZENS TO DO WITH NORTH SHORE. SO I'M CALLING ON THE CITY COUNCIL, DON'T KICK THIS DOWN THE ROAD ANYMORE.

GO AND REZONE THE ENTIRE DISTRICT AND GET RID OF WHAT WE

HAVE, THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE MOTION? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CALL THE BOAT. BY HAND.

ALL IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND. AND THAT PASSES 7-0.

[5A. Consider and make a recommendation to the City Council for the approval of a Tree Removal Permit application on property zoned Form-Based Commercial Center (FB-CC) District. The approximately 23.673-acres is located at the corner of Merritt Road and Fayetteville Avenue, situated in the James M. Hamilton Survey, Abstract No.544, City of Rowlett, Dallas County, Texas.]

THE PUBLIC MAY MAKE COMMENTS WHICH MAY BE MADE IN PERSON I WILL BE LIMITED TO 3 MINUTES AND INSTRUCTIONS ARE OF ABLE INSIDE THE DOORS OF THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

ITEM NUMBER 5, MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE DISTRICT, THE APPROXIMATELY 23.673 ACRES IS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF MERRITT ROAD AND FAYETTEVILLE AVENUE, SITUATED IN THE JAMES HAMILTON SURVEY, ABSTRACT NO.544, CITY OF ROWLETT, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS.

LILYANA? >> COMMISSIONER'S, AS YOU HEARD ME SAY PRIOR TO THIS, THIS IS THE SAME PROJECT THAT WAS THE PER PLAT YOU JUST APPROVED. IN THIS CASE IT IS THE APPROVAL OF THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THIS 186 TOWNHOMES AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO CARRY OUT THIS DEVELOPMENT.

YOU'VE HEARD ME TALK ABOUT THE ZONING AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE IS THE REGULATING PLAN TIED TO THIS PROJECT, WHICH WAS APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY, JANUARY 28TH OF THIS YEAR.

ARTICLE 2.11 OF THE FORM-BASED CODE MODIFIES THE PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH IN SECTION 77504H, THIS SECTION OF

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THEY ARE ALSO PROPOSING TO KEEP SEVEN UNPROTECTED TREES ON SITE, EQUATING TO 73-POINT TO BRANCHES.

REQUIRED TO MEET THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS, ALSO COUNTING TOWARDS MITIGATION. AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE IMAGE

TO MY LEFT, IS IT WORKING? >> THERE IS.

>> THE APPLICANT IS PLANNING ON PLANTING TREES ACROSS THE ROAD, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY CODE AND THREAT THE PERIMETER OF THE PROJECT. SAME WITH THE OPEN SPACE AREAS.

AND JUST AS A SUMMARY, THERE IS APPROXIMATELY 66 PROTECTED TREES ON SITE, OF THOSE 66, THEIR PLAN TO BE REMOVED, 12 ARE PLANNED TO BE KEPT ON-SITE, THE FORM-BASED CODE PROVIDES A CREDIT OF -- A3-1 CREDIT FOR CALIPER INCHES BETWEEN EIGHT AND 24 AND 85 OF ONE CREDIT FOR CALIPER INCHES OVER 23, I BELIEVE.

THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT 1114-POINT TO CALIPER INCHES ADDED TO THIS AMOUNT. THAT SAID, THE PROPOSAL TO BE PLANTED IS 154 TREES. MEANING THAT IN ALL, THE APPLICANT DOES NOT HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING INTO THE REFORESTATION FUND OR DOES NOT HAVE TO MITIGATE ANY OF THE TREES PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED. NOW YOU AS A RECOMMENDING BODY MAY APPROVE APPROVAL CONDITIONS OR DENY THIS REQUEST.

>> COMMISSIONER'S, QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF? SEEING NONE, WE WILL ENTERTAIN IT.

THIS DOESN'T REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. IS THERE A PUBLI NO? OKAY.

SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

SOMEBODY HAS TO PUSH THE BUTTON, THERE WE GO.

MR. HERNANDEZ. >> I WILL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.

>> WE HAVE MOTION ON FOR, WE HAVE A SECOND? MISS WILLIAMS. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM IS PRESENTED, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? LET'S CALL A VOTE. AND THAT PASSES 5-2.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE WILL ADJOURN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.