Aug 17, 2026 City Council Work Session

[* A portion of this meeting is without audio *]

[2. Citizens’ Input]

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>> A GREAT IMPACT ON THE ECONOMIC WELL-BEING OF THE ROWLETT ECOSYSTEM. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS PETER FOLLOWED BY SHELBY -- GILBERT KAK.

>> GOOD EVENING, 26 YEAR RESIDENT OF ROWLETT, I'M SPEAKING ON THE OPPOSITION IN THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THIS, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THE CITY SHOULD DO. THE CHAMBER IS A MEMBER TO MEMBER ORGANIZATION, THE IDEAS -- THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HAS NEVER BEEN IN EXISTENCE TO BE A MARKETER OF THE CITY.

PEOPLE PURCHASE MEMBERSHIPS FOR FINANCIAL SECURITY.

HOWEVER TO SHOW THAT I'M NOT ANTICHAMBER, I UNDERSTAND THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CHAMBER AD THE CITY, BRING IN AN EXPERT, A CONSULTANT, AND LET'S GET A DISCUSSION GOING ABOUT GOING ABOUT LEADERSHIP -- MEMBERSHIP RECRUITMENT, MEMBERSHIP ENGAGEMENT AND RETENTION.

LET'S TALK ABOUT BENEFITS AS OPPOSED TO FEATURES, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT THE DELIVERABLES ARE, NOT THE FLUFF, THE DELIVERABLES.

WHAT [UNCLEAR] IS THE ASSESSMENT POSSIBLE? CAN THE CHAMBER DO AN ASSESSMENT? THE OTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION IS WHERE IS THE LEADERSHIP OF THE CHAMBER? I SAW THE BRIEFING, WHERE WERE THE PAST RESIDENCES? WHERE WERE THE DIRECTORS? WHERE WERE THE ALUMNI OF EADERSHIP? THAT'S WHAT I AM ASKING. BECAUSE THIS CHAMBER IS A MEMBER DRIVEN ORGANIZATION, THERE'S ONE STAFF MEMBER.

IT HAS TO COME FROM THE MEMBERS. [UNCLEAR] THE REALTOR ASSOCIATION, WE HAVE 50 PLUS STAFF.

THIS GAP IN THIS CHAMBER, IT'S MEMBER TO MEMBER.

THESE MEMBERS THAT SAY I KNOW HOW TO DO MY BUSINESS, EXACTLY.

BUT THEY NEED SOME HELP. DOUBLING THE MONEY IS NOT THE ANSWER IN MY OPINION. OUR MONEY.

I THINK A CONSULTANT AND EXPERT COMING IN AND TALKING TO US WOULD BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL. THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY, TALKING ABOUT THE VISIONS IN BUSINESS, A VISION WITHOUT A PLAN IS JUST A DREAM. I DIDN'T SEE ANY PAPER.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT EXISTS. THIS DISCUSSION TAKING PLACE AMONGST LEADERSHIP AND COUNCIL, THEN I STAND CORRECTED.

BUT THAT HAS NEVER BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE.

I SUPPORT SOMEBODY COMING IN AND HELPING THE CHAMBER OUT FOR WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE OUTSIDE?

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>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL CANDIDATE HAS BEEN A LACK OF DISCUSSION LATELY, TRANNINE I WANT TO TALK TO YOU.

[INAUDIBLE] RECENTLY MY HUSBAND AND I SPOKE ABOUT THE KAYAK AREA, SHE TOLD ME HOW BEAUTIFUL IT WAS BUT ALSO SOME DIFFICULTIES EXPERIENCED PARTICULARLY WITH PARKING.

SATURDAY MORNING A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WE WENT OURSELVES, WE ARRIVED AROUND 930 AND PARKING WAS ALREADY GONE.

THERE WAS STILL PARKING AVAILABLE BUT BY THE TIME WE LEFT ABOUT 11:00 THERE WAS NO PARKING LEFT.

PEOPLE WERE PARKING ALONG THE STREET.

CLEARLY PEOPLE WANT TO USE THIS PARK AND ONCE WE SAW IT WE UNDERSTOOD WHY, IT IS AN ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL PARK.

WE WERE SO IMPRESSED THAT SUNDAY WE WERE BACK WITH FRIENDS TO KAYAK, OUR FRIENDS A PART OF THEIR OWN KAYAK WHILE MY HUSBAND AND I RENTED KAYAKS THERE. THE KAYAK RENTAL IS A WONDERFUL FEATURE BECAUSE IT ALLOWS PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE A KAYAK OR CAN'T TRANSPORT A KAYAK. IT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE PROUDOF. BUT AFTER SPENDING TWO DAYS THERE WE ALSO SAW SEVERAL THINGS THAT NEED ATTENTION.

FIRST, THERE SIMPLY ISN'T ENOUGH PARKING FOR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE USING THIS AREA, AND WE ASK THE CITY TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER LOOKING AT WHETHER ADDITIONAL PARKING CAN BE CREATED OR OTHER SOLUTIONS CAN BE MADE. IF WE WANT PEOPLE TO USE THIS AREA THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMEWHERE TO PARK.

ANOTHER IMPORTANT ISSUE IS HAVING ACCESS TO THE LAKE, THERE'S DESIGNATED HANDICAPPED PARKING FOR HANDICAP ENTRY INTO THE LAKE IS BROKEN. ACCESSIBLE PARKING ONLY GOES SO FAR IF SOMEONE WITH A DISABILITY COULDN'T GET TO THE PARK BUT CANNOT SAFELY ACCESS THE WATER. LET'S MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE ALL THE WAY FROM THE PARKING SPACES TO THE WATER.

ANOTHER CONCERN IS A SMALL GRASSY AREA, PADDLE CREEK IS A VERY SMALL SPECIALIZED PARK, THE LIMITED SPACE SHOULD BE USED FOR UNLOADING EQUIPMENT, LOADING KAYAKS AND PADDLE BOARDS AND SAFELY ACCESSING THE LAKE. ON SUNDAY LARGE CANOPIES WERE SET UP THERE, MAKING IT DIFFICULT FOR US TO MOVE KAYAKS.

I THINK CANOPIES SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN THAT AREA.

WE HAVE OTHER PARKS DESIGNATED FOR PICNICS AND GATHERINGS, PRESERV THIS LIMITED SPACE FOR PADDLE SPORTS.

PADDLE POINT WAS INTENDED FOR THIS.

THERE'S ALSO A SHORELINE EROSION THAT DESERVES ATTENTION.

OTHER APPROPRIATE LANDSCAPING CAN HELP STABILIZE THOSE AREAS WHILE PRESERVING THE PARK'S NATURAL BEAUTY.

MY GREATEST CONCERN IS SAFETY. WHEN WE RETURNED SUNDAY WE WERE TOLD TEENAGERS HAD BROKEN THROUGH THE FENCE TO ACCESS THROUGH JUMPING TO THE LAKE, NOTHING ULTIMATELY HAPPENED TO DETER THEM. I WANT TO BE CLEAR WE DID NOT PERSOALLY WITNESS THIS, IT WAS REPORTED TO US WHILE WE WERE AT THE PARK, WE KNOW HOW DANGEROUS THIS CAN BE.

IN APRIL A YOUNG MAN LOST HIS LIFE AFTER JUMPING IN.

THIS ISN'T A HYPOTHETICAL DANGER, SOMEBODY HAS ALREADY DIED. YET PEOPLE ARE STILL GETTING

THROUGH THE FUNDS. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SHELLY.

[INAUDIBLE] >> IF PEOPLE ARE STILL GETTING THROUGH TO THE FENCING AND JUMPING TO THE LAKE, WE CAN LOOK AT HOW THE AREA IS SECURED AND MORE EFFECTIVELY.

THERE IS ANOTHER SERIOUS WATER SAFETY ISSUE, SIGNS AT PADDLE POINT PARK HAVE BEEN CLEARLY STATING THAT SWIMMING IS PROHIBITED YET PEOPLE ARE STILL SWIMMING THERE.

THAT IS DANGEROUS FOR KAYAKERS AND PADDLE BOARDERS, I KNOW SWIMMING RULE SHOULD BE ENFORCED.

THAT BRINGS ME TO SOMETHING I BELIEVE IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, PADDLE POINT IS A VISUAL SPACE PRESENCE PARTICULARLY IN THE SUMMER MONTHS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE REGULAR POLICE PATROLS.

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A VISIBLE POLICE PRESENCE, KNOWING OFFICERS ROUTINELY PATROL THE AREA, TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO SWIMMING, BREAKING THROUGH FENCES OR OTHER DANGEROUS BEHAVIORS.

WE ALREADY EXPERIENCED A DEATH. I DON'T WANT US TO WAIT FOR ANOTHER ONE. I AM NOT ASKING THE CITY TO TURN PADDLE POINT IN A DEVELOPED PARK, IT IS SIMPLY PART OF WHAT MAKES IT SPECIAL. I AM ASKING FOR PRACTICAL IMPROVEMENTS, ADDRESS THE PARKING PROBLEM, PREPARED THE LAKE ENTRY, KEEP CANOPIES OUT OF THE SPORTS AREA, ADDRESS THE SHORELINE EROSION, SECURED THE FENCING AROUND THE BRIDGE, ENFORCE THE NO SWIMMING RULE AND PROVIDE A VISIBLE POLICE PRESENCE. MY HUSBAND -- HER HUSBAND -- [LAUGHTER] AND I WENT THERE SATURDAY BECAUSE SOMEBODY TOLD US ABOUT THE PLACE.

ON SUNDAY WE WERE BACK WITH FRIENDS KAYAKING.

WE CAME AWAY THINKING WHY HAVEN'T WE BEEN DOING THIS ALL ALONG? PADDLE POINT IS A WONDERFUL OUTLET. LET'S PROTECT WHAT MAKES IT SPECIAL, LET'S FIX WHAT NEEDS FIXING, SO PEOPLE WHO COME HERE CAN ENJOY OUR LAKE AND PARTICIPATE IN PADDLE SPORTS SAFELY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS STEPH CROCKETT AND THAT'S THE LAST SPEAKER.

>> TODAY I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SHELTER LOCATION.

WE NEED TO BUILD AN ANIMAL SHELTER AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE PIECE OF PROPERTY ALREADY OWNED FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER ON, HERE ARE MY REASONS FOR NOT SEIZING THAT PROPERTY. IT IS NOT A SAFE FOR RELOCATION, IT IS NEXT TO A FIRE STATION, THE SOUND ALARMS WILL MAKE IT UNBEARABLE FOR DOGS AND STAFF. THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY WILL NEED PREPARATION TO BUILD SIGNIFICANTLY, WE HAVE A NEW DESIGN FOR THE SHELTER THAT WILL REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THIS PROPERTY. USING THIS PROPERTY JUST BECAUSE NEED TO PLAN FOR THE LONGER TERM, ALTHOUGH I WISH WE COULD HAVE A SHELTER TOMORROW, THIS PROPERTY IS NOT THE ANSWER.

THE OBVIOUS ANSWER IS. [INAUDIBLE] SOONER THAN LATER. AND MAKE THE CORRECT CHOICE TO BUILD THE SHELTER. IT WILL BE BETTER IN THE LONG RUN, DESIGNED SAFELY [UNCLEAR] THE CURRENT DESIGN WE HAVE, [UNCLEAR] THOSE LOTS SHOULD NOT BE AN EXPENSIVE PURCHASE.

WE CANNOT BE SHORT SIGHTED ON MAKING THE LOCATION CHOICE.

I ALSO WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PARK, NOT SURE IF THE PARK IS THE BEST CHOICE. WE NEED SOMEBODY WHO DESIGNS PARKS. DESIGN [UNCLEAR] AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. [INAUDIBLE] I WANT THE COUNCIL TO FIND A SPACE [UNCLEAR] THIS HOUSE IS ELIGIBLE TO BE LISTED ON [UNCLEAR].

I BELIEVE [UNCLEAR] I ALSO WANT TO URGE THIS COUNCIL TO HAVE AN INTERNAL AUDITOR, LOOKING AT THE BUDGET I NOTICED POSITIONINGS ON THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART. WE COULD CUT FIVE TO 10% FROM EACH DEPARTMENT'S PURCHASES. I BELIEVE THIS COUNCIL CANNOT DENY THIS POSITION. I CAN'T THINK OF ANY REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T. [INAUDIBLE]

[3.A. Discussion of the Fiscal Year 2027 (FY2027) Proposed Budget.]

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK OR? SEEING NONE WE WILL MOVE ON WITH OUR AGENDA ITEM 3A, WE WILL DO IT SOMEWHAT QUICKLY BUT NOT TOO QUICKLY, SESSION OF FISCAL YEAR

2027 PROPOSED BUDGET. >> GOOD EVENING, I JUST WANTED TO WALK YOU THROUGH SOME DOCUMENTS, DIFFERENT CONTEXT, I'M SURE YOU KNEW WHERE THE INFORMATION IS AND IF YOU HAVE

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ANY QUESTIONS WE CAN ANSWER. >> AS MENTIONED WE HAD MULTIPLE BUDGET STRATEGY SESSIONS, IN THIS PROPOSED BUDGET REPRESENTING DISCUSSIONS WE HAVE HAD, AND DECISIONS COUNCIL HAS MADE AND THE ITEMS THAT THE CITY MANAGER HAS ADDED TO THE BUDGET, ALSO THE CITY MANAGER PRESENTED THE PROPOSED BUDGET TO YOU ON AUGUST TENTH, THIS IS THE OVERVIEW OF IT.

THE FORMAT FOR TONIGHT, IF YOU PREFER, I PLAN TO GO THROUGH EACH SECTION, YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS DURING THAT SECTION OR IF YOU WANT TO HAVE AN OPEN FORUM AND ASK QUESTIONS, THAT IS YOUR PREFERENCE AND HOW YOU WANT TO DISCUSS IT TONIGHT.

>> COUNCIL FOLLOWING WITH THE DISCUSSION LAST WEEK I FEEL PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH JUST GOING TO THE Q&A BUT I'M HAPPY IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE, DOES ANYBODY RATHER HAVE AN OVERVIEW? ANYBODY INTERESTED IN AN OVERVIEW OR STRAIGHT TO Q&A? SEEING A LOT OF NODS FOR Q&A. WITH THAT IN MIND, THE FIRST QUESTION I HAD WHICH I SHARED WITH STAFF AND WITH YOU ALL, WE HAVE TWO SIDEWALK PROGRAMS IN PLACE IN THE CITY CURRENTLY WHICH IS INCOME BASED SIDEWALK PROGRAM, THE CENSUS BLOCKS ARE ELIGIBLE TO USE THAT CORRECT? PART OF THIS ALSO 50/50 SIDEWALK PROGRAM WHICH IS A CAUTIONARY PROGRAM FOR RESIDENTS, BOTH PROGRAMS DESIGNED TO ENCOURAGE AND MOTIVATE FOLKS TO REPAIR THEIR SIDEWALKS WHEN SIDEWALK REPAIRS NEEDED A.

AND I LEARNED THAT THE INCOME BASED PROGRAM HAS A SUBSTANTIAL BALANCE, $274,000 I THINK IT WAS.

WE WERE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ALLOCATE FUNDING FOR THAT PARTICULAR ITEM, WHICH I WOULD SAY THERE'S TOTALLY VALUE IN THAT HOWEVER WITH THE BALANCE IN THERE TODAY, LOOKING AT THE SPENDING HISTORY IN THAT PARTICULAR ITEM I FELT LIKE WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE BIT.

I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS OF WHAT THOSE NUMBERS SHOULD BE BUT I WAS THINKING $35,000 WHICH I SUGGESTED TO STAFF.

>> I'M THINKING 25 FOR THIS YEAR.

>> ANY OBJECTION? AGAIN I DON'T WANT TO GUT THE PROGRAM LONG TERM BUT GIVEN THE BALANCE OF FUNDING IN THE ACCOUNT I THINK CONTRIBUTING THIS YEAR, IT MAKES SENSE.

AS IT IS BETTER MARKETED AND UTILIZED WE CAN PUSH IT BACK UP.

>> WHAT WAS THE EXPENDITURE LAST YEAR?

>> ABOUT 16000. IT WASN'T MUCH TO BE HONEST.

ADMINISTRATION HAS [UNCLEAR] NOT SPENDING THAT MUCH, WE ARE PICKING IT BACK UP TO REVITALIZE THE PROGRAM MORE EFFECTIVELY.

WE EXPECT EXPENDITURE TO GO UP THIS YEAR, IF [UNCLEAR]

>> THE LAST TIME IT WAS REALLY UTILIZED WAS THE YEAR 22 AND 23, 22 WE UTILIZED IT AT 5000, 22 WAS 50,023 WAS 3000.

THEN 2024 WAS ZERO. 2400 AND NOW WE 6000.

>> 24. SELL.

>> THE 50/50 IS VERY POPULAR, MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE 50/50 UNTIL THEY REPORT THEIR SIDEWALK AND THE SHARK THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. I WOULD SUGGEST WE MAKE THE 50/50 MORE FOR PEOPLE TO USE, IT IS A GOOD DEAL WHEN YOU ARE DOING SIDEWALKS. I WOULD BE VERY MUCH I GUESS IN FAVOR OF IT. 50,000 IN THERE, THAT'S --

>> FISCAL YEAR 2026 IT WAS $40,000.

>> THAT'S HOW PEOPLE FOUND OUT, THEY WOULD HAVE DISCUSSIONS.

IF WE ARE NOT ENFORCING IT -- >> IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO A BETTER JOB MARKETING THESE PROGRAMS, GET OUT OF THERE AND TALK ABOUT OTHER PRIORITIES. [INAUDIBLE]

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>> IT'S MORE RESPONSIVE AS COUNCILMEMBER GIBBS WAS SAYING MOST 50/50 PROGRAMS WAS SAYING, THE SIDEWALKS, IT'S A RESPONSIBILITY OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER.

IT'S A CONVERSATION THAT THEN RESULTS IN THIS.

SEE IF THEY CAN QUALIFY FOR THE INCOME BASED PROGRAMS LOOKING AT A PROJECT BUT WE HAVE NOT HAD ANYBODY SIGNED TO THAT FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. [INAUDIBLE] AS LONG AS THEY ARE IN AN ELIGIBLE AREA.

THE CENSUS TRACKS WHICH ARE ELIGIBLE.

THAT IS THE COUNCIL'S DECISION, NOT A FEDERAL -- THIS THE CITY GENERAL FUNDS, THIS IS PUT IN PLACE BECAUSE THE FUNDS WERE TAKEN AWAY FROM THOSE PROGRAMS AND MOVED AWAY AS WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE, BUT THE SIDEWALK PROGRAMS THOSE COMES FROM GENERAL DOLLARS. SO THAT IS A CHOICE.

IF YOU WANTED TO LOOSEN UP RESTRICTIONS FOR THE INCOME BASED PROGRAM AND HAVE THEM BE INDIVIDUAL INCOME BASED, IT'S MORE CHALLENGING BECAUSE THEN HE NEEDED SOMEBODY INVOLVED TO ACTUALLY VALIDATE THE INCOME PIECE WHICH CAN BE A BIT DIFFICULT. LIKE WORKING WITH THE SALVATION ARMY -- FOR THAT VETTING PROCESS, THE ADDITIONAL VETTING HAS TO HAPPEN. RIGHT NOW WE CAN LOOK AT CENSUS TRACKS, WITHIN THE CENSUS TRACK WE ARE GOOD.

>> I MEAN IF I'M WRONG LET ME KNOW, IF YOU PUT MORE MONEY IN THE 50/50 AND IT'S TAKEN OFF AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE FIND MORE PEOPLE, WE CAN COME BACK IN HERE AND DO THAT? [INAUDIBLE] YOU MAKE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T RESPONSIBILITY. PROACTIVELY GOING AND SAYING I WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE AND THEN MONEY CAN RUN OUT, AND PEOPLE BEING FIRST IN LINE FOR NEXT YEAR THERE'S ONLY $50,000.

WE HAVE PLENTY OF FUNDS WE CAN PUT IN THERE RIGHT NOW.

>> SO IS THE PROPOSAL OF THE CHAMBER FOR $50,000 TRANSFERRED INTO THE INCOME BASED PROGRAM AND MOVED THAT OVER INTO THE

50/50 PROGRAM? >> I MEAN THE 50 50/50 IS COMING INTO THE YEAR WITH 45000, ALREADY $50,000 ALLOCATED EVEN BEFORE THAT. THAT WOULD HAVE 95 FOR THE YEAR ALREADY. IF YOU ADD MORE TO IT IT'S GOING UP EVEN HIGHER CALCULATE 145,000 PROBABLY.

>> WHAT IS THE SUGGESTION? >> PULLS THEM BACK FROM THE INCOME BASED PROGRAM PERIOD FOR THIS YEAR.

DON'T MOVE IT ANYWHERE ELSE. >> DON'T MOVE IT ANYWHERE?

>> IT IS ALREADY 50 IN THE 50/50 PROGRAM.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION, WHAT IF WE MOVE IT TO THE FACILITIES FUNCTION? A LOT OF THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WITH PUBLIC SAFETY, RIGHT NOW WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BE REPLACING EQUIPMENT, SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT COULD REALLY HELP WITH THAT BUILDING FOR THE NEXT THREE TO FOUR YEARS AS WE WORK ON REPLACING THE BUILDING. I WOULD APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT NEEDS IN THAT AREA, $50,000 TO SPEND TO IMPROVE THE FACILITY IN THE MEANTIME I THINK WOULD IT BE GOOD. [INAUDIBLE]

>> ASSUMING WE HAVE FUNDING MECHANISM WE TALKED ABOUT THE ASK, CERTAINLY THE FUNDING THERE AS WELL.

BUT THE GENERAL FUND, WE CAN STILL HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, FROM THE GENERAL FUND -- [INAUDIBLE]

>> JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT WE ARE SUGGESTING ON THE SIDEWALK

FIRST. >> SOUNDS LIKE THE REQUEST, MY

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REDUCTION, IS THAT THE PROPOSAL? >> YES.

>> SO PULL BACK 45,000 FROM THE INCOME BASED PROGRAM.

COMING INTO FISCAL YEAR 27, $244,000, ADD 25 TO THAT.

FISCAL YEAR 2027, END OF THE 50/50 PROGRAM WALK INTO THE YEAR WITH 45, ADD ANOTHER 50. THAT'S 95 TO SPEND NEXT YEAR.

SUBSTANTIAL DOLLARS FOR BOTH PROGRAMS BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE BEEN SPENDING. IF THE PROGRAM GOES WILD WE CAN COME BACK AND ADJUST. THAT WOULD PULL 45 BACK.

THE PROPOSAL WAS WITHOUT A 45 -- IF THERE IS A CENSUS ON THAT

ITEM TO DO THAT? >> SORRY --

>> THAT'S OKAY. MAKE SENSE.

THAT BRINGS BACK $45,000 TO ALLOCATE SOMEWHERE ELSE, FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH, AND THE PROPOSAL WAS TO USE THAT FOR SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY, REORIENT SOME THINGS, MAKE SOME MORE SPACE ET CETERA, MAKE THINGS LOOK BETTER.

[INAUDIBLE] >> WOULD YOU RATHER DEAL WITH

THAT TODAY OR LATER? >> I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THINGS REALISTICALLY, WHAT DO WE BUDGET FOR.

JUST THROWING MONEY AT IT I DON'T KNOW.

NOT UNTIL WE UNDERSTAND THE STATUS --

>> REVIEW THE PLAN AND SEE IF WE CAN INCORPORATE.

ANY OBJECTION TO THAT? OKAY WE ARE GOOD TO MOVE ON WITH THAT. THAT WAS THE ONLY QUESTION OR CONCERN I REALLY HAD FOR THE BUDGET PRESENTED.

I KNOW THERE WERE A FEW THINGS WITH LANGUAGE AND OTHER STUFF MENTIONED TO CLEAN UP, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE BUDGET

PROPOSAL? >> I WOULD LIKE WE PUT A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY OUT -- [INAUDIBLE] AND BRING IT BACK, THE ONE TIME PURCHASES -- THE FUNDING FOR TOMORROW OR THE NEXT DAY OR WHATEVER, IT'S ONE TIME MONEY.

IF STAFF CAN GET TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT THE STATUS, WHATEVER IT IS, PUT THEM IN THE RING AND BATTLE IT OUT.

>> OKAY. [INAUDIBLE]

>> I THINK IT GOES BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND.

OTHER QUESTIONS FOR WHAT WAS PROPOSED FROM LAST WEEK?

>> GENERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BUDGET?

>> YES. FOR RESET, IT'S OKAY.

>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GO BACK TO THE TAX RATES, WHAT WE ARE DOING FOR THE TAX RATE THIS YEAR, WHICH RESERVE FROM THE

TAX RATE. >> TAKING A LOOK AT THE GENERAL FUND REVENUE AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

>> THE GENERAL FUND RATE CHANGED FROM PREVIOUS YEARS, THAT IS GOING TO GENERATE AN ADDITIONAL $2.4 MILLION IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE. FOR THE INS RATE, KEEPING THAT RATE THE SAME AS WELL. [INAUDIBLE] AND THE PURPOSE OF THE INS RATE IS TO ENSURE THAT THIS FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR WHEN WE ARE IN DANGER OF NOT MEETING TARGETS.

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>> THERE WAS A GREAT PAGE IN THE PACKET TODAY, TAXPAYER IMPACT STATEMENT, REQUIRED BY THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE, A LITTLE SECTION IN BOLD I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO SHARE.

WITH THE CITY AT LAST WEEK'S MEETING PAST A TAX RATE TO PUT OUT FOR A PUBLIC NOTICE, THAT WAS THE MAXIMUM TAX RATE THAT WE COULD PUBLISH WITHOUT CALLING AN ELECTION, THE INTENT WAS NEVER TO ADOPT THAT TAX. IT IS A STOPGAP MEASURE IN THE EVENT THE BUDGET BLOWS UP. THE TAX RATE PROPOSED WITH THE PROPOSED BUDGET WAS THE TAX RATE [UNCLEAR] THE INS RATE CAME FLAT. WHAT'S REALLY INTERESTING IS ON THE SECOND PAGE OF THE ACTUAL BUDGET ITSELF, IT TALKS ABOUT WHERE THAT REVENUE COMES FROM. EXISTING PROPERTIES OR NEW PROPERTIES. I CAN'T REMEMBER A TIME IN THE CITY'S HISTORY, MAYBE THE FIRST TIME MAYBE IT'S NOT, THAT THE REVENUE FROM NEW PROPERTIES IS LARGER THAN THE OVERALL INCREASE IN REVENUE THAT THE CITY IS RECEIVING.

>> LET'S TAKE THIS A STEP FURTHER, WHEN YOU'RE FACED WITH DECISIONS, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE STATEMENTS.

AND THESE STATEMENTS ARE NOT USED TO WHAT YOU ARE DOING.

SO THEY COME OFF A LITTLE OFF. I WILL READ A COUPLE TO YOU.

I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BE INCREASED BY THE ADOPTION OF THE TAX RATE F 0.80791, RESPECTIVELY E MINUS 0.38% INCREASE IN A TAX RATE. THAT IS ONE THING I WILL SAY.

AND THE ORDINANCE WILL SAY THIS TAX RATE WILL RAISE MORE TAXES FOR OPERATIONS MORE THAN LAST YEAR'S TAX RATE.

THE TAX RATE WILL EFFECTIVELY BE RAISED BY -1 .63% AND RAISE TAXES FOR MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS ON A PER THOUSAND DOLLAR HOME AT APPROXIMATELY -- SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE CASH RATE IS REDUCED.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE LEGISLATURE IS NOT USED TO.

[INAUDIBLE] >> THAT IS CONFUSING.

MORE IMPORTANTLY ON THIS BULLET POINT THAT TALKS ABOUT THE VALUE AT HOME AND THE CITY, THE MONEY IN FRONT OF THAT, HOW MUCH TAX WILL STAY? LAST YEAR THAT AMOUNT WAS 3148 -- 3146, NEXT YEAR WILL BE 1346 BUT HAD WE GONE TO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE WE WOULD HAVE RAISED THE RATES SLIGHTLY AT 3448.

EFFECTIVELY FOR PEOPLE WHO ALREADY OWNED THE PROPERTY IN THE CITY, IT IS A TAX CUT, THE STATE DOESN'T ALLOW US TO PUBLISH IT THAT WAY BUT THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE WAY THIS GOES. ONE OTHER REQUEST I HAD WAS PARTICULAR TO LOOK FOR A WAY TO FUND THE CAPITAL NEED FOR THE PROJECT, ON A MORE IMMEDIATE BASIS, THAT MAY BE PROBLEMATIC SIMPLY BECAUSE WE MAY NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR IT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT. IF THAT'S THE CASE THEN I WOULD ENCOURAGE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THAT THE GENERAL FUND CONTRIBUTIONS OR CAPITAL DOLLARS, CUT BACK THAT COST, WHATEVER IT WAS. BECAUSE AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED AND SAID, THE CONDITION AND STATE OF IT, THE STRUCTURE IS NOT GOOD AND IT WON'T GET BETTER, THE ONLY WAY TO RESOLVE

THAT IS TO MAKE REPAIRS TO IT. >> WE ARE DOING THAT THIS YEAR.

>> WE ARE DOING SOME EXTERIOR SMALL REPAIRS, I'M TALKING MORE

SUBSTANTIAL STRUCTURAL LIKE -- >> AND THIS IS WHAT I ASKED OF COUNCIL, DOING THE EXTERIOR STABILIZATION BY THE END OF THE YEAR. AND THEN HIRING AN ARCHITECT, TAKING A LOOK AT THE BUILDING, RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THAT.

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AT THAT POINT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN CONCEPT.

THAT'S THE PATH WE ARE ON RIGHT NOW, IF YOU WANT TO PROVIDE A DIFFERENT DIRECTION THEN I'M HERE TO HEAR IT.

I EXPECT WE HAVE AN ARCHITECT ENGAGE VERY EARLY NEXT YEAR TO MOVE THROUGH THAT PROCESS WITH THE COUNTY.

>> I LIKE THAT. 'S BEFORE WE START PUTTING DOLLARS INTO THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE CONDITION.

IS AN ARCHITECT THE BEST PERSON --

>> PART OF THAT TEAM OF COURSE. [INAUDIBLE]

>> EXACTLY, I THINK THAT IS THE PIECE, I FEEL LIKE WITH STAFF WE ARE QUALIFIED TO TELL YOU WE CAN TAKE OUT THIS WALL AND EXPAND THIS SPACE, IF YOU WANT TO BRING -- WE CAN BRING A TEAM IN, BRING AN ARCHITECT, ENGINEER, IT'S THE SAME PROCESS.

DO IT AS A TEAM. PRIMARY ARCHITECT WILL BE HERE

AND DO AN EVALUATION FOR US. >> 'S.

>> I THINK WHAT I HEARD WAS THERE WAS SOME RISK TO A DETERIORATING FURTHER AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE MOVING FORWARD TO REPAINT IT AND REMOVE ROT. COULD BE SOME OF THAT SHOULD BE DONE, HARD TO KNOW WITHOUT A MODEL MAYBE.

>> THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE AGREED TO, THAT WE CONTINUE. PAINT WHERE WE CAN.

MY PREFERENCE. [INAUDIBLE] TAKE A DEEP DIVE INTO WHAT IS NEEDED AND WHAT IS NOT.

>> JUST MAKING SURE -- THAT WAS MY POINT.

LET ME STAY ON TRACK WITH THAT, I KNOW IT'S A PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR THE CITY. [INAUDIBLE]

>> I'M SURE THEY HAD PIECES -- THIS COULD BE A GOOD PROJECT FOR US. [INAUDIBLE] FOR WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THE -- IF THEY WANT TO PRESENT IT IN A HISTORICAL MOMENT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

[INAUDIBLE] >> WOULD THEY BE CONTRIBUTING FOR THE EVENT ITSELF? OR -- [INAUDIBLE] TO MAKE IT WHOLE AGAIN.

>> DO WE KNOW HOW LONG A TIME WISE? HOW LONG WOULD THAT TAKE AND THEN.

[INAUDIBLE] >> THAT IS WELL SAID, WHERE WE DO IS MAKE SURE WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY FOR DISCUSSION, AND PERHAPS PROVIDE GOVERNMENT DIRECTION, IMPLEMENTING THAT DIRECTION WILL TAKE A PERIOD OF TIME, DESIGN, FUNDING, CONTRACTING. WE WANT TO GET IT DONE BY SEPTEMBER FOURTH. CERTAINLY WE SHOULD HAVE A

VISION. >> THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO TO THE FIREHOUSE. [INAUDIBLE]

>> RIGHT. >> COUNCIL WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS

DO WE HAVE FOR THE BUDGET? >> THE STORAGE STABILIZATION.

[INAUDIBLE] I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT THEY

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[INAUDIBLE] WE WON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF STABILIZATION NEEDS TO BE DONE UNTIL WE GET AN ENGINEERING TEAM

IN. >> WHAT THEY ARE FOCUSED ON NOW IS THE EXTERIOR, PAINT, REMOVING ROTTEN WOOD AND AREAS.

IF THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE FOUNDATION WE WON'T SEE THAT.

USUALLY IT'S MORE THE EXTERIOR PLANNING.

>> ALSO THE CHAMBER. >> THE CHAMBER IS FIRST.

CORRECT. THAT'S CONTRACTING.

CARPENTERS WORKING FROM THE CITY.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? LAST THING I WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT ON BECAUSE I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT IS THE CONTRIBUTION WE ARE MAKING TO THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, I THINK WHAT THE CHAMBER DOES FOR THE CITY IS VERY IMPORTANT.

UNFORTUNATELY OVER THE PAST COUPLE YEARS THE CHAMBER HAS BEEN LESS EFFECTIVE, THERE'S BEEN A FEW REASONS FOR THAT, THE CITY HAS A HAND IN THAT AND IN MY OPINION.

THROUGH NOT HAVING A ROBUST. [INAUDIBLE] AND WE ARE WORKING TO CORRECT THAT NOW, COURSE CORRECT THAT CHALLENGE. ONCE WE GET THAT COURSE CORRECTED IN MY MIND WE HAVE TWO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POWERHOUSES ONE OF WHICH IS THE CITY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM, WHICH IS PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON BRINGING IN NEW BUSINESSES, BUT ALSO PLAYING A LITTLE BIT OF A HAND IN BUSINESS RETENTION AND EXPANSION, AND THEN WE HAVE THE CHAMBER FOCUSED ON THEIR MEMBERSHIP, GROWING THE MEMBERSHIP AND ENGAGING OUR COMMUNITY INTO THE WORK THE CHAMBER IS DOING.

THERE'S A LOT OF BUSINESS RETENTION EXPANSIONS.

THOSE TWO ARMS I THINK WORK CLOSELY AND NECESSARILY TOGETHER, AND IT'S GOING TO BE VERY CRITICAL FOR US TO SUPPORT BOTH ENDEAVORS. IF WE ONLY SUPPORT ONE WE WILL END UP WITH THE SAME RESULT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A ROBUST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SITUATION.

I RECOGNIZE $100,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY, IN MY MIND THE OPPORTUNITY COST OF NOT DOING THAT IS WAY TOO HIGH.

THE POTENTIAL FOR THE CHAMBER TO FAIL, AND WHAT THAT WOULD DO AND THE WAYS IT WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR CITY I THINK WOULD BE CATASTROPHIC. I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE $100,000 FOR THE CHAMBER. I WAS HESITANT AT FIRST IN OUR LAST BUDGET MEETING, WE DISCUSSED 75,000 BUT I SEE THE WORK THE CHAMBER IS DOING AND CONTINUES TO SEE THE GROWTH.

REALISTICALLY OUR CITY DOESN'T HAVE ON ITS OWN ENOUGH BUSINESSES THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A GOOD ENOUGH STAFF TO MAKE IT A SELF-SUSTAINABLE, IT WOULD EFFECTIVELY BE A VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION WHICH WOULD STRUGGLE AT BEST.

SO TO HAVE A REALLY GOOD PROGRAM IS A GOOD INVESTMENT.

THAT IS WHAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT.

>> SEGUE OFF OF THAT BRIEFLY, THIS IS DAVID, AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, HE JOINED THE CITY LAST YEAR.

LOOKING FORWARD TO HIM BRINGING HIS EXPERIENCE AND WORKING WITH

THE CHAMBER. >> WE HAVE TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITIES IN THE CITY FROM THE DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, IT WILL TAKE SOME HEAVY HITTERS TO GET THE WORK DONE.

EXCITED FOR THAT. OKAY.

LAST CALL, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE BUDGET?

>> JUST JUMPING OVER TO THE CHAMBER REALLY QUICK, THE EXPERIENCE OF WORKING WITH THE CHAMBER, THE CITY MANAGERS WORKING WITH CONTRACTS WITH THEM, I THINK THE CHAMBER SHOULD NEVER ASSUME THAT WE WOULD GET THIS NEXT YEAR.

WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS INVESTMENT, WE'RE NOT STARTING FROM ZERO WE ARE STARTING FROM NEGATIVE.

I FULLY SUPPORT 10 100000. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WE ARE PRETTY MUCH AT THE FINISH LINE FOR THE BUDGET, WE WILL SEE THE BUDGET AGAIN FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, CORRECT? SEPTEMBER 15TH?

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WE WILL WRAP IT UP, THANK YOU FOR THE FINANCE TEAM, GOOD WORK.

[3.B. Discussion of the Strategic Plan.]

FROM OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING FIRM.

ARE YOU GOING TO INTRODUCE -- OKAY.

OR CHRISTOPH? >> I WILL SPEAK FROM UP HERE.

>> I AM DELIGHTED TO BE HERE TONIGHT, WE STARTED IN EARNEST AND I WANT TO MAINTAIN MOMENTUM, THE EXPANSION IS GETTING ALL THE TIME BETTER. LET'S TALK ABOUT MY ROLE, MINE IS TO SHEPHERD THE PROCESS. WE WILL GO OVER THE SCHEDULE AND CONTENT, PROCESS, ALSO I WANT TO GET INPUT FROM ALL OF YOU.

TONIGHT IS THE FIRST TIME WE GET ALL TOGETHER WE WILL PAUSE FOR, REFLECT, DIG DEEPER, WE WILL TAKE A FEW HOURS,, WE WILL TAKE SOME TIME. BUDGET 2.0.

THE BUDGET IS A POLICY DOCUMENT, A STRATEGIC PLAN IS REALLY LOOKING BEYOND THE TYPICAL FISCAL YEAR.

YOU'RE TRYING TO LOOK OUT THROUGH DIFFERENT LENSES, SO IN GOVERNMENT YOU'RE TRYING TO MANAGE IT, AND REALIZE IT IN THE FUTURE, PREPARE YOURSELF FOR THAT.

BETTER BE PREPARED FOR THE FUTURE THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN THEN WHEN THAT DOES. THERE'S A COMMONALITY BETWEEN ALL OF YOU ABOUT WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR IN THIS PLAN UPDATE MUCH LIKE YOU DISCUSSED THE STRONGER FOCUS ON ECONOMIC GROWTH. INFRASTRUCTURE.

SOME OF THOSE SERVICES, LOOKING AT THE COMMUNITY THROUG A DIFFERENT LENS. WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT GETTING YOUNGER OR OLDER. STARTING TO TREND A LITTLE BIT OLDER. THAT IS EMPIRICAL DATA.

WHAT WILL YOU DO ABOUT THAT? STRATEGIC PLANNING BY NATURE IS KIND OF MESSY, IT'S A HUGE PROCESS WE WILL MAKE A LOT OF SPAGHETTI AND THROW A LOT OF THINGS ON THE WALL SEE WHAT STICKS. THEN WE WILL DO SURGERY.

PRIORITIZING. IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE.

AND I WOULD OFFER IN THIS PROCESS MUCH OF WHAT YOU WILL EXPLORE, THEY'RE NOT SUBSTITUTES FOR CORE SERVICES.

90% IS CORE SERVICES, MAINTAINING THE LEVEL OF SER SERVICE. IDENTIFY SOME GOALS AND INITIATIVES, AND I WOULD OFFER TO YOU, DON'T MENTION THE SUCCESS OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN -- BETTER DO A FEW THINGS WELL THAN TRY TO HAVE 40 NEW ADDITIONS THAT HAVE A LOT OF MERIT BUT IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE BECAUSE ONCE IT'S DONE IT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO EXECUTE. THERE'S ALSO TIME CAPACITY, PUTTING THINGS ON THE TABLE THAT IS PRECIOUS RESOURCE THAT IS TIME. WHAT IS YOUR ROLE AS A QUALITY OF LIFE ADVOCATE? PRIORITIZE THAT.

NOT TIE IT UP IN A NOT TONIGHT, NOT AT ALL.

LET ME DO SOME OPENING REMARKS AS WE START HERE, AND I WILL DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION, KEEP THAT HANDY, WE WILL ADDRESS TIME FRAMES HERE. WE HAVE AN AMBITIOUS SCHEDULE STARTING AT SIX, WE WERE KIND OF DRUG ALL THE TIME AND THAT'S

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SOME QUICK THOUGHTS ABOUT STRATEGIC PLANNING, THE EMPHASIS OF THAT. SOMETIMES THAT IS A CHALLENGE.

LOCAL GOVERNMENT TENDS TO BE VERY OPERATIONAL AND TRANSACTIONAL, THE NATURE OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING, WE ARE TRYING TO SORT OF PAUSE AND LOOK THROUGH A DIFFERENT LENS.

GOVERNMENT SPENDS A LOT OF TIME LOOKING THROUGH A MICROSCOPE AND THIS PROCESS IS IMPORTANT TO LOOK THROUGH A TELESCOPE, OR A KALEIDOSCOPE. LOOK TO THE FUTURE AND HOW DO WE REIMAGINE THE FUTURE? IT'S HELPFUL, PROBLEM SOLVING OFTEN HIGH DEMAND IN THIS PROCESS.

LOOKING AT THE HEADWINDS, LOOK THROUGH A CRYSTAL BALL, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO FIX THE TRENDS BUT HISTORICALLY GOVERNMENT IS PROACTIVE OR REACTIVE? TENDS TO BE REACTIVE.

WE TRY TO LOOK -- WE WILL TRY TO CAPTURE SOME OF THOSE TRENDS.

IT HELPS AS WE TAKE THIS PROCESS WITHIN THOSE HEADWINDS, WHAT OUR CONSTRAINTS AND WHAT OUR OPPORTUNITIES? HOW DO YOU LEVERAGE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES? AND THEN WE WILL LOOK AT THE VISION, THE STRATEGIC PLAN WAS DONE A FEW YEARS AGO, IT'S TIME TO REVISIT THAT, WE WON'T WORDSMITH THAT TONIGHT. WE WILL -- THERE'S NO MAGIC TIME FRAME, BUT WE WILL CHECK IN AND SAY IS THIS STILL RELEVANT, IS THIS STILL INSPIRATIONAL? SOMETIMES VISION STATEMENTS ARE LIKE A KITCHEN SINK SYNDROME, THEY ARE LONG WINDED.

IT IS A LONG RUN ON SENTENCE. NOBODY CAN REMEMBER IT, THERE'S NO POINT IF THEY ARE NOT USING IT.

I ALWAYS URGE CLIENTS TO BE VERY PRECISE AND COMPELLING WITH THE VISION, WHAT DOES IT REALLY MEAN? IT CREATES CONVERSATION. LET'S TALK ABOUT IT THEN.

NOT AN END END. I AM SURE IT'S AN EXAMPLE.

SIMPLY AS NOT TO CUT AND PASTE. I HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK ACROSS THE COUNTRY SO I WILL SHARE SOME EXAMPLES ABOUT HOW OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE TACKLING THIS. WE WILL LOOK AT SOME GOALS.

LISTEN TO THIS SCHEDULE FIRST IF WE CAN, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN AND SAY, HEY, I HAVE A TENDENCY TO TALK VERY FAST, I'M THE YOUNGEST OF FOUR SO I TALK VERY FAST, I HAVE TO TALK VERY FAST SINCE I WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD.

>> I WILL GO AROUND THE ROOM -- >> SURE.

>> SO I AM ON PAGE 2, THE SCHEDULE OBVIOUSLY TODAY WITH THE COUNCIL WORK SESSION, AND THEN TOMORROW WE HAVE THE COMMITTEE, STAFF, THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND HALF A DOZEN MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. THEY ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE THE TRICKS UP THEIR SLEEVES, THEY ARE NOT -- THESE ARE NOT LAMINATED -- WHAT I FIND WORKS WELL IS PUSHING UP THE SLEEVE AND SPENDING QUALITY TIME ON THIS, IT'S HARD TO DO THIS ALL IN A COUNCIL MEETING. IT'S ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE COMMUNITY SO IT REQUIRES LONGER DEEPER LOOKS.

>> JUST FOR EVERYBODY IN HERE, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE HERE FROM THE COMMITTEE IN THE ROOM WITH US, EVERYBODY ELSE IF YOU ARE THE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC OR STAFF MEMBER, THIS PACKAGE IS INCLUDED IN OUR COUNCIL PACKAGE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, HE MENTIONED THE SAMPLE, STRATEGIC PLANS FROM OTHER CITIES, THOSE ARE ALSO IN THE PACKAGE ON THE WEBSITE FOR TODAY'S MEETING.

IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, YOU CAN HAVE A PAPER COPY ALSO TO FOLLOW

ALONG. >> TOMORROW IS A KICKOFF MEETING FOR THE CITY OF. IT'S AN AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE, I WILL BE BACK HERE SEPTEMBER SECOND, SEPTEMBER THIRD, THE SECOND IS AN ALL DAY MEETING, REALLY REVISIT THIS RESULT, LOOK AT OTHER INPUT WE GATHERED SO FAR, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY.

I KNOW SOME PEOPLE GET A LITTLE PRESSURED INTO GETTING ANSWERS, IT'S IMPORTANT -- BEING IN TEXAS, THEY'RE VERY PRACTICAL.

AT THE SAME TIME THIS PROCESS LENDS ITSELF TO GO SLOW GO FAST.

SPEND SOME TIME WITH THE SITUATIONAL ANALYSIS AND THE STRATEGIC PRIORITY. SPEND QUALITY TIME WITH THERE.

STARTING THAT EVENING YOU WILL HAVE EVENING CONVERSATIONS.

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WE ASK PEOPLE TO BE CIVIL AND COLLABORATIVE, WHAT DO THEY SEE CHALLENGES FACING THE COMMUNITY, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CHANGE ANYBODY'S MIND. JUST TRYING TO GATHER, SO I WILL DIG DEEPER IN SOME OF THIS COMMUNITY SURVEY RESULTS AND FIND OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON IN PEOPLE'S MINDS ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE. YOU WILL HAVE MANY CONVERSATIONS, OPPORTUNITIES. THEN WE WILL HAVE ONE IN THE MORNING, TRY TO BALANCE PEOPLE'S SCHEDULES, THERE IS A VIRTUAL ONE, TRY TO GIVE PEOPLE LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES TO ATTEND THESE MEETINGS ESPECIALLY SINCE THE INCEPTION, WHAT DID HE SEE AS CHALLENGES? WHAT DID THEY WANT TO SEE MORE OF? THEN THAT MORNING AT 10:00 WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION ONLY.

THAT HAS COME UP AS A QUESTION. WE WANT TO HAVE ONE BY INVITATION ONLY CAT PEOPLE THAT REPRESENT NONPROFITS, THE CHAMBER. INSTITUTIONS.

LARGE LANDOWNERS. PEOPLE THAT PAY DIFFERENT ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND THE COMMUNITY THAN A TYPICAL RESIDENT. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT -- THEY DON'T HAVE TO LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY BUT HAVE A VESTED INTEREST ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS COMMUNITY AND THE FUTURE OF IT. WHO MIGHT THOSE PEOPLE BE? SHARE THAT TO GET THE WORD OUT. AND WHEN I FINALIZE THAT CAN I COME BACK TO CHRISTOPHE AND WE LOOK AT THAT LIST, PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT ABLE TO MAKE THAT LIST I WILL BE AVAILABLE TO HAVE ONE ON ONE CONVERSATIONS. STRATEGIC PLANNING WILL BE CONSIDERED FOR ADOPTION, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PROCESS IS AS IMPORTANT AS THE PRODUCT. GRAB AS MUCH INPUT FROM KEY STAKEHOLDERS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE FEEL AS THOUGH THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A STAKE.

IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE YOU THINK OF CHRISTOPHE THAT LIST.

SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE IT.

AND I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH THEM. >> A REMINDER TO COUNCIL TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION? THREE HOURS FROM NOW WE WON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING. ABOUT THAT? I KNOW THERE'S THOUGHTS ABOUT WHO THOSE PEOPLE MIGHT BE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE -- NOT THAT IT'S BETTER OR WORSE, IT JUST ALLOWS ME TO UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW. QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT T THAT? I'LL WRITE.

GOING BACK TO SEPTEMBER, QUICKLY, WE WILL BE BACK FOR A FEW DAYS. DIGGING INTO ALL THAT INFO, WE WILL HAVE CONVERSATION, IF YOU'RE ON THE COMMITTEE -- [INAUDIBLE] IT'LL BE A BIG COMMITMENT OUTSIDE, WE WON'T DO EVERYTHING WITH THE ENTIRE GROUPS I WILL ASK YOU TO WORK IN SMALL GROUPS, WORK ON SOME GOALS.

I FIND THAT A PROCESS TO BE BETTER.

'S HARD TO REMAIN ANONYMOUS IN A SMALL GROUP SO THERE'S A SHARED COMMITMENT OF PEOPLE. SO BACK ON THE 23RD AND 24TH.

AFTER THAT SESSION WE WILL PUT CONTENT OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND ASK THE PUBLIC WITH THEIR THOUGHTS ARE ABOUT THIS.

GET SOME FEEDBACK. SUMMARIZE THAT AND SHARE THAT WITH YOU. THEN WE ARE BACK TOGETHER WITH YOU A COUPLE WEEKS LATER ON THE EIGHTH AND NINTH, THE EIGHTH IS WHEN THE CONVENTIONAL COUNCIL RETREAT FINALIZES THE AGENDA, TRANSITION TO FIND ITS FOOTING, THE NINTH IS WHEN WE TAKE A DEEPER DIVE. LOOKING TO HOLD IT TO THE LIGHT AND HOLD IT AS AN X-RAY, SEE IF IT'S COMPELLING ENOUGH, ARE THE GOALS AGGRESSIVE ENOUGH? ARE THERE THINGS WE ARE ALREADY DOING? WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO PULL THAT APART. I ASK THE QUESTION, WHY DO PEOPLE. [INAUDIBLE] WANT A RENTAL CAR? BECAUSE THEY DON'T OWN IT.

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SEE HOW THAT GENERATES RELEVANT CONVERSATION.

WE TRY TO AVOID THOSE SESSIONS, THE VOTE SESSIONS, THEN IT CHANGES THE CONVERSATION. WE TRIED TO CREATE A LEVEL OF CONSENSUS. FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.

AND THEN SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, ONCE IT'S ADOPTED, IT SHOULD BE WITH UPDATES. THIS IS THE PROCESS, STAFF REPORTS, AS EVIDENCED IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN ITEM TWO, 23, PRESENTED TO YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

IT IS A WORTHY DOCUMENT THAT WAY.

WHAT I FOUND THE MORE THAT. [INAUDIBLE] THE MORE VESTED INTEREST WE HAVE AND MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD TO CHECK THINGS OFF. BE SUCCESSFUL BY CHOICE.

NOT JUST LETTING THINGS HAPPEN. THAT'S A CHALLENGE.

IT SHOULD NOT BE A STRAIGHT BUT IT SHOULD BE OPTIONAL.

SOME THINGS TO THINK ABOUT, WHAT'S IT'S ADOPTED, NOT EVERYTHING WILL BE REFERENCED IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, SOMETIMES THAT IS A REACH BUT THERE WILL BE A NEW CONTRACT OR SOMETHING, ÚWHY DID STAFF PRESENT THAT TO YOU? STRATEGIC PLAN. KNOW WHERE THAT COMES FROM.

THAT IS A SCHEDULE. I HOPE THAT IT GIVES A GOOD IDEA, WE ARE AGGRESSIVE. PAGE 3 AND 4 STRATEGIC PLAN CONCEPT AND APPLICATION, I WON'T READ ALL OF THIS TO YOU BUT JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS REFERENCED GOING FORWARD, STRATEGIC PLANNING IS A PROCESS AND EVENT. I HOPE IT PENETRATES THE ORGANIZATION. IT IS A PROCESS BASED APPROACH NOT AN EVENT BASED APPROACH. MANY PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, PUBLIC, STAFF, MAYOR AND COUNCIL HAVE SEEN THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND THEIR EXPERIENCE WAS NOT ALWAYS SO PRODUCTIVE.

THE PLAN WAS ADOPTED, IT WAS PUT ON THE SHELF, PEOPLE SAY WE ADOPTED THE PLAN. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN HOW DO YOU AVOID THAT? MAKING SURE YOU'RE -- EXECUTION IS A STRATEGY THINK OF IT THAT WAY. JUST SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT STRATEGIC PLANNING. DEPARTMENT GOALS.

CAPITALIZE ON THE STRENGTHS WHICH YOU HAVE MANY AS AN ORGANIZATION, DON'T THINK THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS A DEFICIT, YOU HAVE STRENGTHS THAT YOU'RE CAPITALIZING ON.

YOU ALSO HAVE CHALLENGES LIKE EVERY COMMUNITY DOES.

THESE ARE JUST SOME THOUGHTS I WANT TO INTRODUCE HERE.

IT'S AN INTENSE PROCESS. I WANT YOU TO HAVE A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF IT. PAGE 6 IS THE PAST AND PRESENT, YOUR MIND-SET AND THE MODERN MIND-SET.

AND THAT SECOND BULLET POINT, YOUR MIND-SET IS CHANGING.

THE MODERN MIND-SET IS STABILITY IS DANGEROUS.

YOU ALWAYS GET WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE YOU ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU HAVE ALWAYS DONE. YOUR COMMUNITY IS A LOT OF THINGS, STATIC IS NOT ONE THING. I ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT WHAT ARE YOU SHEDDING IN THIS? SOME THINGS ARE NO LONGER VALUABLE, THEY ARE JUST NOT. CITIES ARE BEING CHALLENGED BY THEIR RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES.

AS I SAY MARRIED TO A DEVOUT PICKLEBALL PLAYER ANY PICKLEBALL PLAYERS IN THIS ROOM? [CHEERING] [LAUGHTER] MY WIFE IS A PICKLEBALL PLAYER AND HER PAL, I JUST CAUTION PEOPLE, CITIES ARE NOT BUILDING TENNIS COURTS ANYMORE WHAT ARE THEY BUILDING? PICKLEBALL COURTS. I'M JUST SHARING THAT WITH YOU.

I KNOW THAT SOUNDS SILLY, BUT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAVE MONEY WITH THIS. WHAT IS NO LONGER VALUED? WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION WHERE YOU ARE GOING. STABILITY IS DANGEROUS.

WHAT IS STATIC, WHAT IS DYNAMIC. ANOTHER THING I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO, PREDICTION HEAVY, STRATEGIC PLAN, FIVE TO

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IT IS CHALLENGING, JUST IS. WELCOME TO A LOT OF OTHER CITIES. A LOT OF CITIES -- I'M NOT PLAYING POLITICS, IT'S NOT JUST INCREASING SALES TAXES OR PROPERTY TAXES, THERE ARE CHALLENGES IN ALL OF THAT THAT ARE FINANCIAL. THINK OF THIS AS A DISCOVERY PROCESS. WHICH CAN BE A LITTLE BIT UNSETTLING, BUT IT IS ALSO EXCITING.

THAT IS A STRATEGIC PLAN. PAGE 7, PICASSO, A GOOD ARTIST, GREAT ARTISTS STEAL FROM OTHER PEOPLE.

THESE ARE MINE ORIGINALLY. IF HE TO SUCCEED BY CHOICE NOT BY CHANCE. NUMBER 2 I MENTIONED EARLIER.

NUMBER 3, IMAGINATIVE RISK TAKING.

I WOULD OFFER CREATIVITY FOR SUCCESS.

IT'S OFTEN NOT VALUED OR ENCOURAGED WHEN YOU TALK TO GOVERNMENT. GOVERNMENTS AND CREATIVITY, STRATEGIC PLAN PROCESS UNDERTAKEN, CREATIVITY IS THE BACKDROP TO CREATIVE PROBLEM SOLVING.

IF IT WAS EASY YOU WOULD HAVE ALREADY DONE IT.

THOSE WILL BE SOME AREAS TO DISCUSS.

IT WILL PUSH THE CITY TO SAY WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE CITY BUT ALSO -- YOU'RE ALWAYS INTO THE CAR TO THE DESTINATION, SOMEBODY IS DRIVING THE CAR. SOMETIMES YOU ARE IN THE PASSENGER SEAT, SOMETIMES YOU'RE IN THE BACK SEAT, YOU ARE A CATALYST, ARCHITECT. PARTNER WITH NONPROFITS, PRIVATE SECTOR. YOUR ROLE, HOW YOU ENVISION YOUR ROLE TO BE. IN OTHER WORDS AS THE CITY FACES SOLUTIONS, IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT TO THIS PROCESS IS UNDERTAKEN TO MAKE SURE THERE'S PROBLEMS YOU CAN SOLVE ANY ISSUES YOU CAN ONLY MANAGE. I DON'T CARE WHERE I GO, IF IT'S AFFORDABLE, HOUSING IS NUMBER 1. WHAT IS YOUR ROLE? ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.

MOST OF THOSE ASSETS YOU DON'T CONTROL.

YOUR INFLUENCE. YOU DON'T HAVE EQUITY POSITION, HOW DO YOU ASSEMBLE PIECES TO REFLECT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY? IT'S TRYING TO REVISIT THOSE GOALS AND ASSUMPTIONS, HOW AGGRESSIVE DO WE WANT TO BE? HOW DO WE ASSEMBLE PARTNERS? HOW DO WE INFLUENCE AND BALANCE THOSE? SOMETIMES IT CAN BE CHALLENGING.

NUMBER 7, VERSATILITY, RESPONSIVE AND PROACTIVE.

BACK TO IT'S JUST EASY TO FALL INTO THE TRAP OF BEING REACTIVE NOW, NOW LOOKING AT THE HORIZON. THE THING ABOUT IT IS IT IS A DUALITY NOT A DICHOTOMY, YOU CAN DO BOTH.

NUMBER 8, KEEP THE CONCEPT OF VOLUNTEERISM, RESIDENTS VOLUNTEER TO LIVE HERE. YOU VOLUNTEER TO SERVE AS STAFF AND BUSINESS OWNERS VOLUNTEER. PEOPLE ARE HERE BY CHOICE.

AS WE HEARD FROM ALL THE COMMENTS, PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF PASSION. YOU HAVE TO TRANSLATE THAT PASSION INTO PURPOSE. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? POLICY. NUMBER 9, LEADERSHIP.

[INAUDIBLE] [UNCLEAR] CLEANING SOME THINGS UP. NOT SURE WHAT THOSE ARE YET.

WHAT IS YOUR ROLE? SOME OF THAT STUFF IS NOT REALLY SEXY, DOING SOME THINGS UNDER THE GROUND.

[UNCLEAR] HOW MANY OF YOU WHEN YOU DRIVE TO COMMITTEE NOTICE THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY NOBODY ELSE IN YOUR CAR NOTICES? WHEN I'M WITH MY WIFE I WILL ALWAYS BE LIKE DO YOU SEE THAT? AND SHE WILL BE LIKE JUST DRIVE THE CAR.

WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME INSULTING EACH OTHER.

I SAY IT IMPACTS MOST COMMUNITIES INCLUDING YOURS, NOT DOING ENOUGH TO CELEBRATE SUCCESS AND REMIND RESIDENTS THE VALUE THAT YOU ARE HAVING ON THE REMIND RESIDENTS ABOUT THE QUALITY OF LIFE. OR WE TALK LOT ABOUT RETURN ON INVESTMENT, KEEP IN MIND THE RETURN ON EXPERIENCE? WE LIVE IN AN EXPERIENCE-BASED ECONOMY.

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YOU ARE BOTH AN ADVOCATE AND REGULATOR, IT'S HARD TO FIND ANY BUSINESS IN ANY INDUSTRY WITH SUCH A WIDE PORTFOLIO.

24/7, 365 ENTERPRISE. YOU ARE NEVER CLOSE.

KEEP IN MIND THE EXPERIENCE YOU ARE PROVIDING I KNOW YOU ALL WANT RESIDENTS ALIKE AND BUSINESSES TO ENJOY THESE.

I HOPE THIS GIVES YOU THINGS TO THINK ABOUT, KIND OF A DIFFERENT WAY -- I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO FOCUS ON THE BENEFITS.

NOT JUST THE FUNCTIONALITY OF IT.

GIVE YOU SOME OF YOU THINK AB ABOUT.

NUMBER 12 IS THE OUTCOME IS TO CREATE A ROAD MAP TO ACHIEVE COHESION, CRITICALLY IMPORTANT SPIRITUAL CLARITY ABOUT PRIORITIES AND COMMITMENTS TO IMPLEMENTATION.

IT'S TIME TO IMPLEMENT THINGS, THAT YOU GOT TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS. NUMBER 13, THE BEST DAYS OF YOUR COMMUNITY ARE IN FRONT OF IT, JUST NOT GUARANTEED TO.

WE ARE GOING TO ASK YOU TO KEEP IN MIND THROUGH THIS PROCESS IS WHAT DOES THIS COMMUNITY'S POTENTIAL? YOU ARE LIMITED BY YOUR IMAGINATION.

EASY TO PLAY ARMCHAIR QUARTERBACK, WHY DO THEY DO THIS, WHY DO THEY DO THAT? THEY PROBABLY DID THE BEST THEY COULD WITH THE INFORMATION THEY HAD COME TO YOU ALL KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY. THAT AMBIGUITY CAN BE STIFLING.

THINK ABOUT WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL OF THIS COMMUNITY, WHAT TODAY, DO WE TELL OUR KIDS? WHAT'S THE LIMIT? THE SKY IS NOT THE LIMIT IF YOU WANT TO BE AN ASTRONAUT.

AN ASTRONUT TOLD ME THAT ONE TIME, I THOUGHT THAT WAS CLEVER.

HE WOULD KNOW. THINK ABOUT THAT, I THINK THAT IS A SENSE OF INSPIRATION, PEOPLE ARE CREATING INSPIRATION TODAY -- IS IT INSPIRING? DO WE WANT TO BELIEVE THE FUTURE IS GOING TO BE BETTER THAN THE PAST? YOU ARE ALL ON THE FRONT LINES OF ALL KINDS OF ISSUES.

IT'S EASY TO GET SIDETRACKED AND MIRED IN THE MUCK.

, TRYING TO -- THOUGHTS ON THOSE, OPENING REMARKS, GETTING THE WHEELS TURNING ON MONDAY NIGHT.

QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING MORE OF THE TALKING. LET'S MOVE ON TO PAGE 8 AND THIS IS WHAT I CALL THE HEADWINDS. THE MIDDLE OF THIS IS AN ACRONYM YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF, STANDS FOR VOLATILITY, AND UNCERTAINTY ANOTHER DAY THAT ENDS AND WHY. DISRUPTION COME ON GOOD TO GIVE YOU MY VERSION AND OPEN UP TO THE COUNCIL AND STAFF AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS HERE TONIGHT, WE DON'T TRY TO FIX THE TRANSFER, WE ARE TRYING TO CAPTURE THE TRENDS.

IS THAT INCREASING OR DECR DECREASING?

>> INCREASING. >> AS EVIDENCED BY A TONIGHT'S ATTENDANCE, HOW ABOUT ONLINE? SOUGHT NEXT DOOR IT MUST BE T TRUE. IT'S CHALLENGING.

BEFUDDLED IF NOT FRUSTRATED AND SOCIAL MEDIA.

IT IS GOING TO MAKE IT EXPONENTIALLY MORE CHALLENGING.

I THINK THIS IS A RENAISSANCE FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE PAYING ATTENTION THAN WE EVER HAVE.

DOES IT MAKE IT MESSY? IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE MESSY.

DEAR PEOPLE PAYING ATTENTION -- YOU LOVE THEIR ENERGY.

AFTER YOU GET ELECTED, WHEN YOU GO INTO THE GROCERY STORE YOU CAN'T PUT ICE CREAM IN YOUR GROCERY CART BECAUSE BY THE TIME YOU LEAVE IT'S MELTED, PEOPLE YOU DON'T KNOW KNOW YOU.

WHEN YOU TELL YOUR SPOUSE I'LL BE RIGHT BACK, KNOW YOU WON'T.

YOU HAVE PEOPLE TALKING TO YOU, THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO

INCREASE. >> IF THAT'S BEING CHALLENGED BY ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT FORUMS, YOU -- THEY'RE GOING TO TAX THEMSELVES THEY DON'T BASED ON FACTS THEY BASED ON FEELINGS, TO TRUST THEIR JUDGMENT. THAT IS MORE SUBJECTIVE.

THAT MISSED TRUST, PEOPLE BARELY GO TO COUNTY MEETINGS, THEY WILL

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THE EVOLVING ECONOMY, HOW IS THAT CHANGING?

>> IT'S CHANGING EVERY DAY. >> ABSOLUTELY.

WALMART IS THE WORLD'S LARGEST RETAILER, $760 BILLION IN SALES.

AMAZON SECOND, NEEDING ABOUT 500 BILLION.

AMAZON ARE A CONVENIENCE STORE, I WOULD CONTEND.

MY SON WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT AMAZON, GOOGLE, AND NETFLIX LIKE THEY ARE VERBS -- LIKE KLEENEX WHICH IS A BRAND -- SCOTCH TAPE WHICH IS A BRAND -- HOW MANY OF US DO THAT? OUR ECONOMY IS CHANGING, CONSUMPTION HABITS ARE CHANGING, I'M AMAZED HOW OFTEN GOVERNMENT STILL TAKE CHECKS BUT I DON'T TAKE VENMO. IF SOMEBODY UNDER TO MIKE IN YOUR FAMILY UNDER 30 GETS A DEBIT CARD WHAT THEY DO WITH IT? THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT -- ALL OF THAT CHANGES, THE ECONOMY CHANGES, HABITS ARE CHANGING, MY GUESS IS I HAVE NO INSIDE KNOWLEDGE -- DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS BUT I THINK THE NEXT AREA THAT'S GOING TO BE CONTINUING CHALLENGING COMMITTEES OR MOVIE THEATERS. THEY USED TO BE ANCHORS OF RETAIL DEVELOPMENT, THEY CREATE A LOT OF WALK-IN TRAFFIC -- WHAT'S HAPPENING? THINK THE LAST TIME YOU WENT TO THE MOVIES, OTHER THAN TO SEE THE ODYSSEY.

>> THIS SUMMER IS GOING TO BE BIG.

>> THINK ABOUT THAT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE YOUR HOUSE.

ALL THAT IS CHANGING, CREATES DIFFERENT STRESS AND STRAIN OF COMMUNITIES, THE SHIPPING DEMOGRAPHICS 76 MILLION BABY BOOMERS IN THE AD STATES, WE INVENTED WORK, JUST ASK US.

[LAUGHTER] RAISE YOUR HANDS PROBABLY THE MIDDLE CHILD GENERATION, 77 BILLION MILLENNIALS, AND A MILLENNIALS? TAKE YOUR EARBUDS OUT AND STAND

UP. >> I AM AN ELDER MILLENNIAL, GERIATRIC MILLENNIAL WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.

>> THERE'S 82 MILLION WHAT I AFFECTIONATELY CALL CENTENNIAL'S. PEOPLE BORN IN THIS CENTURY, THEY ARE THE LARGEST DEMOG DEMOGRAPHIC.

THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A MOMENT, BABIES BORN TODAY MAY NEVER DRIVE A CAR. PEOPLE UNDER 20 MAY NEVER WRITE AN EMAIL, HOW MANY KIDS THAT AGE GROUP -- DON'T THINK OF YOUR RESIDENCE AS RESIDENTS CAN THINK OF THEM IS DEMOGRAPHICS IT WILL CHANGE HOW YOU APPROACH THAT. NOT BETTER OR WORSE IS A DIFFERENT WAY TO LOOK AT THAT. SERVICE DELIVERY, HOW WAS THAT CHANGING? THEY WILL TELL YOU WHEN THEY GO TO STATE CONFERENCE, THIS THING YOU CAN DO NOW IS ON AN APP.

CAN I SUBMIT MY PLANS ONLINE, CAN I PAY MY PARKING TICKET ONLINE? I WAS DOING SOME WORK IN THE CITY OF DENTON, THEY WERE LOOKING AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO ONE OF THE THINGS THEY WERE TRACKING ON THE DEVELOPMENT PAGE WERE ZIP CODES OF PEOPLE ACCESSING THE WEB PAGE.

THEY WERE GETTING ATTENTION FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD WHICH TOLD THEM THEY ARE A 24 OPERATION. DOWNLOAD, FILL OUT, TURN IN AND TURN AROUND. IT'S NOT JUST DRONES ARE OBVIOUS THINGS BUT IT'S OTHER WAY YOU ARE DELIVERING SERVICES, HOW MODERN ARE YOUR SERVICES? THAT IS THE OPPORTUNITY LOOK AT THIS, ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT, LEGISLATION AND LEGAL THEY WANT TO MAKE THE GOVERNMENT CASE LAW.

THAT'S CHANGING WHAT TIME IS THAT, LEGISLATION, HOW IS THAT CHANGING? THE FEDS, THE STATE, THE COUNTY GETTING THE SAME SERVICE WHY AM I PAYING MORE? I HAVE TO BE DIFFERENT STANDARDS ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS -- LEGISLATION. THE FINAL ONE WHICH I MENTIONED IN PASSING WAS SOCIAL MEDIA. INDIA AND CHINA VIE FOR THE WORLD TOP TWO LARGEST COUNTRIES, THE THIRD IS FACEBOOK.

THAT'S KIND OF SCARY, ISN'T IT? SOCIAL MEDIA, WHAT IS THE

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TRYING BE PROACTIVE. THE GOVERNMENT TENDS TO TRAFFIC AND FACTS, YOU ARE THE ARBITERS OF THAT AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, MODERATORS IF YOU WILL. WE ARE TRYING TO FIX THEM -- WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS OPEN UP IN THE ROOM AND HAVE A BRIEF DISCUSSION, WHAT AM I MISSING HERE, WHAT ARE OTHER TRENDS? WHAT DO YOU HEAR FROM BUSINESS OWNERS? IT'S IMPORTANT AS THIS STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS GETS UNDERWAY

WE ACKNOWLEDGE THESE TRENDS. >> ROBOTICS? I PUT SPELL-CHECK UP HERE IN CASE I MISS THESE WORDS.

ROBOTICS. >> SELF-DRIVING CARS -- GO.

>> SELF-DRIVING FILL IN THE BLANK PROMOTE RIGHT? WHAT ELSE -- WHAT DO YOU HEAR FROM BUSINESS OWNERS, WHAT DO

YOU HEAR FROM RESIDENTS? >> YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO WHAT YOUR CUSTOMER IS TELLING YOU IN THEIR VOICE NEEDS BE AMPLIFIED.

IF NOT THEY WILL AMPLIFY IT FOR YOU.

>> WAS AN OLD ADAGE OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, POLICY IS MADE BY THOSE WHO SHOW UP. YOU'RE TRYING TO BALANCE THE PEOPLE WHO SHARE WITH THE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T BECAUSE THEY ARE BUSY DOING OTHER THINGS. HOW DO YOU REACH OUT TO THOSE PEOPLE? WHAT ARE SOME OTHER TRENDS?

SPEAK ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. >> PERCEIVED?

>> PERCEIVED. A LOT OF ATTENTION RIGHT NOW ON FLOCK CAMERAS. WHAT ELSE? HOW ABOUT ECONOMIC TRENDS, WHAT DO YOU HEAR FROM BUSINESSES? ARE THEY STAYING OPEN LATE OR ARE THEY CHANGING THEIR SERVICES, CAN THEY FIND PEOPLE TO WORK THERE? WE'VE NOT REALLY HAD THIS ISSUE COME UP WITH PEOPLE OPEN LONGER BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIND PEOPLE TO WORK THE HOURS.

60% OF THE U.S. WORKFORCE IS UNDER THE AGE OF 40 AND TO THEM IT'S WORK-LIFE BALANCE. YOU ARE AN EMPLOYER, YOU'RE COMPETING FOR TALENT. TALK TO POLICE CHIEFS AND FIRE CHIEFS THEY WILL TELL YOU SOME PEOPLE AREN'T AS INTERESTED IN PROMOTIONS LIKE THEY USED TO BE. I WANT TO GO CAMPING THIS WEEKEND. -- I'M GOOD, YOU'RE NOTICING THOSE THINGS. THAT'S KIND OF A NEW PHENOMENON I'M JUST SHARING THAT WITH YOU. THINGS ARE CHANGING AS YOU'RE COMPETING FOR TALENT AND YOUR BUSINESS IS A TALENT.

WHAT ARE OTHER TRENDS? >> VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS ARE SHRINKING TOO. SPEAK OF THE WHOLE NOTION OF VOLUNTEERISM HAS CHANGED, PEOPLE USED TO BE ON THE UNITED WAY COMMITTEE, ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT -- PEOPLE DON'T EE THAT SAME PROCESS, IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT DEFINITION.

THE POOL OF VOLUNTEERS HAS BEEN ENLARGING OR THINNING OUT? YOU TEND TO RIDE IN THE BACKS OF VOLUNTEERS, I'M SURE.

>> ALL THE VOLUNTEERS IN THE PAST --

>> THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF VOLUNTEERS IS CHANGING, THAT IS A NATIONAL TREND. IT JUST IS.

>> THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT IT'S INCREASING AS INDIA COME EVERY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD IT'S DECREASING.

>> WHAT DO YOU HEAR FROM BUSINESS OWNERS?

>> THEY ARE HAVING A HARD TIME FINDING EMPLOYEES WHO WANT TO WORK, THEY SAY KIDS -- CAN'T CONCENTRATE, THEY ALL HAVE ATTENTION DEFICIT DISORDER. I HEAR THAT FROM A LOT OF BUSINESSES. [LAUGHTER] AND IF YOU GIVE THEM -- A CASHIER, YOUR BILL IS $10.02 AND

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>> WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT? SPEAK OF WHAT YOU FROM RESIDENTS, THIRD GENERATION OF PEOPLE JUST MOVED HERE.

WHAT DO THEY ENJOY MOST ONE OF THE STRUGGLING WITH MOST?

>> APARTMENTS. SPEAKER WAS THAT ENOUGH? SPEAK OF IS A DICHOTOMY BETWEEN THE FORKS IT WINTER 30-40 YEARS AND ARE FRUSTRATED BY THE GROWTH AND THOSE WHO HAVE JUST MOVED HERE AND LOVE THE STATE OF THINGS, THE LOVE HOW THE CITY HAS DEVELOPMENT, HAS GROWN AND THE AMENITIES THAT THEY HAVE.

THERE IS DEFINITELY BOTH SIDES OF THAT.

>> REMEMBER WITH GROWTH OR UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, YOU'RE LIVING IN REAL TIME WITH BOTH OF THOSE.

>> YOU RODE WORKFORCE BUT EDUCATION IS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT, I FEEL LIKE THE DESIRE, THE DEED, THE REQUIREMENT TO GO TO COLLEGE IS ON THE DOWNWARD SLOPE I DO THINK TRADES ARE GOING TO BECOME MORE IMPORTANT, THINGS PEOPLE CAN DO WITH OUR HANDS VERSUS THINGS THAT CAN EASILY OR AT SOME POINT

BE REPLACED BY OTHER TECHNOLOGY. >> YOUNG PEOPLE ARE WAITING LONGER TO BUY HOUSES AND LONGER TO HAVE KIDS -- THE AGE OF YOUNG

FAMILIES IS INCREASING. >> I WOULD PARTNER INFLATION

WITH THAT STATEMENT. >> I'M BEING TOLD THE YOUNGER KIDDOS, FAMILIES COMING AND THEY DON'T WANT TO OWN, THEY WANT TO

RENT. >> YOU ARE A BUYER OF SERVICES, WHAT COST THE SERVICE LAST YEAR, NOT THE SAME IN THE POSITION.

YOU TALK TO CONTRACTORS THERE'S NO SHORTAGE OF WORK FOR THEM.

THEY GOT A LOT OF CUES, WHY BUT I GO AFTER THAT? YOU ARE A BUYER OF SERVICES, IT'S AFFECTING YOUR BOTTOM LINE.

>> HEALTH SERVICES, MORE RECREATIONAL AND HEALTH TYPE OF

THINGS. >> AD SPECIFICALLY MENTAL HEALTH

TO THAT TOO, WORK-LIFE BALANCE. >> IT'S INTERESTING I DIDN'T CALL THIS OUT A MINUTE AGO -- WHEN YOU SAID IT YOU SAID LIFE-WORK BALANCE, WHEN YOU SAID IT YOU SAID WORK-LIFE BALANCE AND THAT'S AN INTERESTING MENTAL THING TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE PRIORITIZE THOSE WORDS, WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT?

>> HAVE A LOT OF KIDS COME OF THE YOUNGER GENERATION, 900,000 OUT THERE, NOT IN THE WORKFORCE, THEY ARE LIVING AT HOME OR LIVING WITH OTHERS, THEY ARE NOT WANTING TO ENGAGE TO WORK, THEY WANT THE LIFE-WORK TO BALANCE BUT THEY AREN'T WILLING TO GET

THE WORK SIDE TO. >> 49% OF 29-YEAR-OLDS LIVE AT

HOME. >> INTERESTING TO SEE THE OUTCOME OF THE KIDS WHO ARE AFFECTED BY COVID.

>> YOU MENTIONED SHIFTING DEMOGRAPHICS IS ONE OF YOUR BUBBLES, AND OUR COMMUNITY WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AS WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE AGING IN PLACE.

THEY HAVE STAYED AT HOME. >> THAT WAS THE CENTERPIECE OF WHAT I WOULD SAY ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO, THIS IS PRETTY COVID, HOUSING ALL OF A SUDDEN START POPPING UP IN THE RURAL PART OF THE COUNTRY, A MIX OF HOUSING. I WAS IN RICHFIELD, MINNESOTA,

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IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, I WOULD SHARE WITH YOU I DON'T THINK IT COMES AS A SHOCK ONE OF THE TRENDS HAPPENING ACROSS THE COUNTRY IS MORE ACCESSIBLE JOB CARE.

CHOSEN TO GET INTO THAT, I CAN'T FIND PEOPLE, THEY CAN'T AFFORD CHILD CARE. I'M NOT SAYING GETTING INTO THAT BUT THAT IS TRENDING. THE NEXT ONE IS TRENDING AND THIS IS -- YOU DEFINITELY DON'T HAVE A HISTORY OF THIS, MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES. YOU HAVE TO TALK TO SCHOOLS, THOSE TRENDS STARTED PERCO PERCOLATING.

THEY START SHOWING UP THING WHAT IS THE CITY GOING TO DO? I THINK THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS TRYING TO LOOKING AT THE FUTURE AND TO SAY THAT IS TRENDING, WHAT IS OUR ROLE, HOW DO WE ASSEMBLE PARTNERS, HOW SERIOUS IS IT? I'M NOT SAYING IT SHOULD BEEN SOMETHING BUT THINGS DON'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. THINK ABOUT SOME OF THESE TR TRENDS. THERE ARE FADS AND TRENDS.

>> ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO THE COMPETITIVE NATURE OF DFW, WE ARE COMPETING WITH EVERY OTHER CITY IN THE METROPLEX, SPECIFICALLY OUR NEIGHBORS. THE HEADWINDS/OPPORTUNITY THAT

PRESENTS FOR US. >> IT'S BECOME THE CENTERPIECE OF A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS OF CITIES IN THE METROPLEX.

IT USED TO BE AN AFTERTHOUGHT, HALF A DOZEN CITIES -- WHO THEY WANT TO PAY FOR, ALL OF THAT HAS BECOME A FACTOR I SHOULD SAY.

>> YOU HEAR THE OLD SAYING. >> ONE OF THE AREAS WE WILL EXPLORE THE STRATEGIC PLAN, THINGS OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS THAT ARE IMPACTING. THE REGIONAL TASK FORCE IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT LEVEL. THEY SHARE THAT WITH YOU.

YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF IMPACT DEALING WITH REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION, SOCIAL SERVICE ISSUES, THE STAFF DO A LOT OF STAFF WORK, IT'S USUALLY FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS MORE EFFECTIVE. IT TAKES SOME TIME OUT OF YOUR SCHEDULE. OTHER THOUGHTS?

>> WE ARE ACCUSING THE LAKE TO ITS FULL POTENTIAL.

I HEAR A LOT OF RESIDENTS ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT.

>> ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? WE AREN'T TRYING TO BOIL THE OCEAN TONIGHT -- THE STEERING COMMITTEE WILL DO THIS AS WELL BUT WE ARE TRYING TO CAPTURE THIS BECOME OPPORTUNITIES AND STRENGTHS. HOW DO YOU PAY ATTENTION TO SOME

OF THESE? >> YOUR VOLATILITY, COMPLEXITY, AND AMBIGUITY -- THE COMPLEXITY OF DEVELOPMENT -- DO WE HAVE DEVELOPED OPPORTUNITIES IN THE CITY? IT'S USUALLY COMPLEX TO MAKE ANYTHING HAPPEN.

>> EVERY CITY WANTS TO BE PRO-BUSINESS, HOW DO YOU GET TO YES? AT THE SAME TIME YOU ARE ADMINISTERING POLICIES YOU DON'T ADOPT, STATES MAY DO IT, THE COUNTY MAY DO IT, HOW DO YOU EXPEDITE THAT?

>> WE CAN GET ENGAGE WITH THE DEVELOPER WHO DOESN'T HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO MAKE THE DEVELOPMENT HAPPEN.

>> SOME DEVELOPERS ARE WELL STAFFED THEY UNDERSTAND IT IS A DRILL, OTHERS ARE NOT, THEY ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT -- TIME IS MONEY AND THEY ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT -- THEY GET CAUGHT IN A BUREAUCRATIC TRAP -- IT'S OVERWHELMING.

>> ANOTHER ISSUE IS PUBLIC SAFETY, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE VERY UPSET WITH THE DISRESPECT OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICIALS.

WE HAVE TO HAVE A LAWFUL SOCIETY IF WE ARE TO CONTINUE.

THE LAWLESSNESS CAN'T CONTINUE. >> I HEARD A POLICE CHIEF AT THE

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I'M SURE THE CHIEF AND OFFICERS WHEN THEY TELL YOU WHAT THEY ROLE UP ON A CALL BETWEEN TWO NEIGHBORS WHO HAVEN'T EVEN MET AS YOU END UP PLAYING SOCIAL WORKER BETWEEN TWO NEIGHBORS WHO DON'T KNOW EACH OTHER. A WHOLE CONCEPT, ONE OF THEIR POINTS OF EMPHASIS ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN AS THEY WANT PEOPLE TO GET TO KNOW THEIR NEIGHBORS.

I KNOW THAT SOUNDS CORNY, BUT WHEN YOU MOVE INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD WHO IS GOING OUT OF THEIR WAY TO WELCOME YOU AND HELP YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS -- GETTING TO KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORS I'M SURE MANY PEOPLE IN HERE GREW UP IN A WORLD WHERE YOU SUPOSED TO BE HOME BY THE TIME THE STREETLIGHTS CAME ON --

THOSE DAYS ARE LONG GONE. >> ONE MORE TO ADD AS OUR REGIONAL PARTNERSHIPS. DART, DALLAS COUNTY, CITY OF DALLAS, THE LIST GOES ON. ALL OF THE ABOVE.

>> I WOULD SAY ONE OF THE AREAS WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS WHAT IS YOUR STRATEGY? WHAT YOU BRING TO THE TABLE, WHAT IS YOUR ROLE WITH THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND PARTNERSHIPS.

AS OPPOSED TO JUST BEING THERE. >> IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WE HAD TO SERVE MORE AS LEADERS BECAUSE THINGS AREN'T HAPPENING WITHOUT US INITIATING THEM. IT'S CHALLENGING BECAUSE MANY OF US HAVE NEVER DONE THAT BEFORE IT'S LEARNING ON THE FLY.

>> I DID WORK FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS A FEW YEARS AGO THERE WAS A PLAN UPDATE AND I SPENT A COUPLE DAYS WITH THEM, 15 DISTRICTS THERE WAS THE EQUIVALENT OF 15 MAYORS.

IT'S A CHALLENGE, I'VE DONE WORK IN SAN ANTONIO A FEW CITIES.

IT'S A LAYER OF POLITICS AND I KNOW ONE OF THE RESIDENTS MENTIONED THE CITY OF DALLAS A WHILE BACK, ID THEY FOLLOW-UP? I THINK BIG CITIES TEND TO THINK SOMEHOW YOU ARE THERE TO SERVE THEM. THE METROPLEX, YOU ARE NOT ALONE, TRY TO GET THE ATTENTION THE DECISION-MAKERS, GOOD LUCK IS A CHALLENGE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU STOP BUT IT'S MORE HOW DO YOU POOL RESOURCES TO ADDRESS THOSE THINGS? THAT'S A DIFFERENT STRATEGY AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO GET THEM PAYING ATTENTION.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? I JUST WANTED TO WALK YOU THROUGH SOME OF THAT HOPEFULLY THAT GIVES YOU THINGS TO THINK DO WE NEED A BREAK, WANT TO TAKE A BIOLOGY BREAK?

>> LET'S TAKE A TEN-MINUTE

>> ALL RIGHT NOW, LET'S RECONVENE, 7:51:00 P.M. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE ON WITH ITEM 3B.

BEFORE YOU GET STARTED AGAIN I WANTED TO MENTION I ASKED HER CITY ATTORNEY -- I TOLD HER SHE WAS FREE TO LEAVE JUST BECAUSE KIND OF THE NATURE OF DISCUSSION TONIGHT AND I DON'T WANT TO HAVE HER HERE ON GLOBAL HOURS OF SPENDING CITY DOLLARS WHILE WE ARE VISION CASTING WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE ITEMS THIS EVENING IF WE GET TO THOSE, ONE BIGOT OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT LEGAL MATTERS WE CAN CONVENE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO GET HER ON THE PHONE AND ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS YOU WILL BE AVAILABLE BY PHONE. I DON'T WANT TO SPEND DOLLARS TO HAVE HER HERE. WITH THAT, TAKE IT AWAY.

>> NOW ON PAGE 9 ABOUT DIVISION. THINK ABOUT VISION AS A DESTINATION NEVER ACHIEVED. THIS IS TO PROJECT OUT INTO THE FUTURE, WHAT DO YOU WANT THE COMMUNITY TO BE LIKE? THERE'S SOME LEVEL OF POETRY TO IT.

YOUR REACH SHOULD ALWAYS EXCEED YOUR GRASP, SHOULD BE INSPIRATIONAL AND ASPIRATIONAL. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE LESS FUNCTIONAL. WE ARE TRYING TO SKETCH IT OUT A LITTLE BIT, IT WILL HELP THE STEERING COMMITTEE ON PAGE TEN THE ART EXAMPLES FROM OTHER CITIES.

PAGE 11 IS YOURS, THE VISION. THE VISION IS TO BE A UNIQUE COMMUNITY WHERE FAMILIES ENJOY LIFE.

I JUST WANT TO GET YOUR INPUT TONIGHT AND SAY IS THAT STILL YOUR VISION, DOES IT NEED TO BE CHANGED, IS IT BOLD ENOUGH? I PUT SOME EXAMPLES ON PAGE TEN -- THE ONES THAT YOU LIKE

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>> I GOT UP, THANK YOU. FAIR OAKS RANCH BY SAN ANTONIO FINISHED THEIRS UP, EVERYBODY KNOWS FAIR OAKS RANCH IN SAN ANTONIO, KIND OF A COOL PLACE GOING THROUGH LOTS OF CHALLENGES. IDEAL PLACE TO CALL HOME ON THE HILL COUNTRY IT'S VERY DISTINCTIVE.

IT'S PART OF YOUR BRANDING. A BRAND IS A PLACE TO INVEST, BRAND IS A PLACE TO LIVE, PLACE TO DEVELOP.

IT'S PART OF WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO PROJECT OUT.

>> DURANGO HAS A LONG ONE. >> THEY WENT ON AND ON.

>> I ASKED THE QUESTION, I KNOW YOU JUST MENTIONED TO DO TYPICALLY SEE BROAD STROKES, OVERALL INSPIRATION? A UNIQUE COMMUNITY WHERE FAMILIES ENJOY LIFE?

>> IT REALLY VARIES. THE CHALLENGE WITH VISIONS IS THAT SOMETIMES THEY ARE TOO GENERIC AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT DISTINCTIVE. THEY ARE PLATITUDES, THEY ARE TO, THEY ARE TOO GENERIC. I WOULD ASK EVERYBODY AS WE GO FORWARD, WE LET'S NOT REFER TO THE MISSION AS A SLOGAN OR A MOTTO. IT DILUTES IT.

THIS IS AN AD CAMPAIGN THE CITY IS EMBARKING ON.

WHEN PEOPLE CALL THE SLOGAN THEY IMMEDIATELY THINK NO ONE SAYS SLOGAN IN A GOOD WAY. A MOTTO TENDS TO HAVE CREDENCE TO IT, IT'S A DESTINATION YOU NEVER REALIZED.

THE CHALLENGE IN TEXAS IS YOU ARE BOLD AND YOU ARE PRACTICAL AAND I KNOW YOU MAY NOT LIKE HEARING THIS BUT YOU HAVE A LOT IN COMMON WITH CITIES IN CALIFORNIA.

YOU KNOW WHY? I TELL THEM THE SAME THING, I WON'T TELL YOU HOW THEY REACT. [LAUGHTER] THE THING YOU HAVE IN COMMON IS YOUR SWINGING FOR THE FENCES.

YOU ARE BOLD, YOU HAVE A HIGH DEGREE OF SELF-CONFIDENCE AND SELF-EFFICACY. I TRAVEL ALL OVER, I THINK THE STATES AND COMMUNITIES HAVE SELF-ESTEEM -- UP IN KANSAS CITY -- SEE IF ANYBODY IS LISTENING TO THAT.

SOMETIMES -- THE MIDWESTERNERS ARE TOO PRACTICAL, THEY ARE NOT BOLD ENOUGH. HAVE SOME LIFT TO IT A LITTLE

BIT OF INSPIRATION. >> I HATE TO CORRECT YOU ON THE RECORD, THIS IS NOT OUR CURRENT VISION STATEMENT.

THIS IS A VISION STATEMENT FROM THE LATE 2000S -- I WAS ON THE STRATEGIC PLANNING COMMITTEE IN 2018 AND WHEN YOU READ THAT I WAS LIKE THAT'S WHAT WE CAME UP WITH, THAT'S THE BEST WE COULD DO, HOLY SMOKES THAT'S TERRIBLE. THAT IS NOT OUR CURRENT

STRATEGIC PLAN. >> IS THE PLAN I CAME ACROSS.

>> THE CURRENT STRATEGIC PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN 2018, 78 PAGES LONG THE VISION STATEMENT IS "A WELL-PLANNED COMMUNITY OF: NEIGHBORHOODS, THE SIGNIFICANT AMENITIES, DIVERSE EMPLOYMENT

AND CULTURAL CHARGE. >> MY MISTAKE I APOLOGIZE FOR

THAT. >> I THINK THESE ARE ON SOME POSTERS THAT WE HAVE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AS WELL.

SPEAKER WAS THAT PART OF -- >> THE COMP PLAN AND STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE HAPPENED STRATEGICALLY SIDE-BY-SIDE WE HAD DIFFERENT NUMBERS THAT SERVES ONLY TO STEERING COMMITTEE. THAT'S ALL RIGHT, I LOOKED AT IT AND I WAS LIKE THAT'S KIND OF -- A WELL-PLANNED LAKESIDE COMMUNITY OF QUALITY NEIGHBORHOODS, DISTINCTIVE AMENITIES, DIVERSE EMPLOYMENT, AND CULTURAL CHARM.

ROW LEFT, THE PLACE TO LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY.

>> THAT'S BETTER. >> I'M NOT SAYING IT'S THE END-ALL BE-ALL IT CAN USE REFINEMENT AND WORK.

>> YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE -- WE ARE THE COUNCIL.

>> ONE THING I FOUND INTERESTING IS FOR OTHER STRATEGIC PLANS ADOPTED AROUND THIS TIME, THE LIVE, WORK, PLAY CONCEPT BECAME

COMMON. >> I'M GOING TO ASK EVERYBODY TO REVIEW THIS EXERCISE, CLOSE YOUR EYES, THIS IS RISKY TO DO THAT.

KEEPING YOUR EYES CLOSED, THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE BEST MEMORIES IN YOUR LIFE. MAYBE IT'S WHY YOU GOT MARRIED, SOME OF THE BEST MEMORIES IN YOUR LIFE.

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I ASK WHEN PEOPLE THINK OF THIS COMMUNITY, WHAT IMAGE DO YOU WANT TO COME TO MIND? THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO HERE IS PAINT A PICTURE I KNOW THAT SOUNDS CORNY.

THE VISION IS WHAT IS THE PICTURE, WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO CONJURE UP? WE'VE ALL DRIVEN THROUGH COMMUNITIES WHERE YOU HAD A SENSE OF THIS COMMUNITY CARES ABOUT ITSELF -- WE'VE ALL DRIVEN THROUGH COMMUNITIES, I CAN'T WAIT TO GET OUT. I MOVED TO MAINE A FEW YEARS AGO FROM ARIZONA, WE LIVED OUTSIDE OF PORTLAND, MAINE.

ANY NEW ENGLANDERS IN HERE? NEXT TIME WE WILL HAVE THIS MEETING IN THE BACKYARD -- PEOPLE SAY ONE OF MY WIFE MOVED TO MAINE? WAS IT ABOUT THE COST OF LIVING? WE LIKE THE WAY IT FELT. PEOPLE DON'T JUST MOVE SOMEPLACE BECAUSE THE QUANTIFIABLE INDICATOR, IT'S ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISIONS WE MAKE IN YOUR LIFE.

WHY ARE PEOPLE STAYING IN HERE ITS QUALITY OF LIFE IS NOT GENERIC FROM WHAT YOU TRYING TO GET AT? WHAT ARE YOU TRYING CONVEY ON THAT PICTURE? HOW DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL ABOUT IT.

ASK ME WHAT THEY THINK THEY TELL YOU HOW THEY FEEL.

IT IS AN EMOTIONAL JOURNEY, IS IT NOT? NOT JUST THE FUNCTIONALITY THE BUS STOPS AND PICKS IT UP THAT'S A FUNCTIONAL THING. JUST TRYING TO PUSH YOUR THINKING HERE WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE VISION.

I'M TRYING TO GET YOUR SENSE OF WHAT YOU THINK.

>> WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE A LONG TIME AGO, IN 1988 -- WHAT I LIKED ABOUT ROBERT WHEN I GOT HERE AS IT WAS A COMMUNITY WHERE THEY ENJOYED GOING OUT TO A PARK AND PUTTING SOME BURGERS ON, HAVING FAMILY GET-TOGETHERS AND GATHERINGS, SPORTS WAS REALLY BIG IN THE COMMUNITY, WE HAD TO BASEBALL PLAYING IN THE PARKS.

WE HAD SOCCER GAMES GOING ON. SOMETHING WAS GOING ON EVERY NIGHT. I FELT LIKE THAT WAS COMMUNITY.

NOW WE ARE ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND WE TALK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING WRONG WITH THE CITY, NOT WHAT'S GOING RIGHT.

CAUGHT UP IN THE NEGATIVITY AND NOT STUFF THAT'S REALLY HAPPENING. LETTING PEOPLE HEAR THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING THAT ARE POSITIVE.

IF YOU LET THEM DO THE NARRATIVE OF HOW BAD EVERYTHING IS, PEOPLE ASK ME MANY TIMES WHAT'S GOING ON IN ROW LEFT -- WHAT'S GOING ON? THERE'S GOOD THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING TOO WE ARE JUST BAD AT GETTING IT OUT.

>> I WOULD SAY PART OF THIS -- THANKS FOR SHARING THAT.

PEOPLE CHOOSE TO LIVE HERE BECAUSE OF THEIR LIFESTYLE.

YOU INFLUENCE THAT AS A COMMUNITY -- NOT EXCLUSIVELY BUT YOU HAVE A BIG HAND IN THAT WHETHER IT'S PARKS AND RECREATION, AMENITIES, INFRASTRUCTURE, WE'VE ALL LIVED IN COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THESE -- FINDING ONE MORE, YOUNGER PEOPLE IN PARTICULAR. I REMEMBER WE DID HAVE LITTLE LEAGUE FIELDS. THEN CAME THE SOCCER PEOPLE.

NOW WE HAVE LITTLE LEAGUE FIELDS AND SOCCER, LIKE THE MONTAGUE'S AND CAPULET'S. THEN CAME SOFTBALL PEOPLE.

ANYBODY REMEMBER WERE SENIOR CENTERS CAME FROM? SENIORS STARTED SHOWING UP AT COUNCIL MEETING SAYING I WANT TO GO TO A COMMUNITY CENTER. IT'S A WINE TASTING, I'M SHARING WITH YOU THINKING ABOUT LIFESTYLE, YOU ARE IN THAT SPACE TRYING TO PROVIDE A BETTER LIFESTYLE.

WATER AND SEWER IS NOT VERY UNTIL IT'S NOT THERE, THAT'S PART OF PEOPLE'S LIFESTYLE. ALL OF US ON WHAT HAPPENED TO STORMWATER? YOU HAD ALL THOSE DISCUSSIONS BEFORE I'M JUST SHARING WITH YOU ABOUT LIFESTYLE.

WHEN SOMEBODY ASKS YOU WHAT'S THE FUTURE OF THIS COMMUNITY,

WHAT COMES TO MIND? >> OPPORTUNITY.

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OPERATIONALIZE THAT. >> THE WORD THAT ALWAYS COMES TO ME ESPECIALLY WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOP AT ITS SAFETY.

THAT WORD IN OUR ENGLISH LANGUAGE WE ALL GO TO WE FEEL LIKE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET MUGGED, ROBBED, WHATEVER.

SAFETY TO ME MEANS IF I'M INVESTING IN THAT COMMUNITY COME I DON'T WANT TO BE A TRAILBLAZER, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO SAY WHY DID YOU PICK THEIR OF ALL PLACES? BECAUSE IT'S A SAFE PLACE, A GOOD INVESTMENT.

IT'S A VALUE DRIVEN PLACE. I GOT ROI IMMEDIATELY.

>> LOW RISK. >> THAT'S WHAT SAFETY MEANS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. FOR OUR CITIZENS, SAFETY BEATS THEM TO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, NOTHING CAP IT'S ABOUT SAFETY.

>> YOU BRING UP AN INTERESTING WORD I THINK DOESN'T GET DISCUSSED ENOUGH, WHAT DOES VALUE MEAN -- IS ALWAYS

QUANTIFIABLE OR QUALITATIVE? >> EXTREMELY QUALITATIVE, WE TALK ABOUT THE LAST THING WHAT IS THE VALUE PROPOSITION TO OUR CITY? MANY STRUGGLE WITH THAT THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY GET THEIR VALUE OFF THEIR TAXES.

>> ARE YOU IN THE COST OF BUSINESS VALUE BUSINESS? YOU ARE A DEMAND TO BASE A SERVICE PROVIDER.

>> VALUE TO ME IS THE DEFINITION OF A GOOD DEAL, A GOOD DEAL IS ONE WHERE BOTH PARTIES LOOK AT EACH OTHER AND SAY I GOT A GOOD DEAL. THAT'S VALUE.

>> ARE WE A DESTINATION FOR BUSINESSES AND PEOPLE? A DESTINATION FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE HERE, LIVE HERE, AND BUSINESSES

TO COME HERE AND THRIVE. >> SOME COMMUNITIES, BIOLOGICALLY IMPOSSIBLE. ON THE GAS IN THE BRICK AT THE SAME TIME THEY WANT TO GUARANTEE.

I CAN GUARANTEE WITH 100% SUCCESS NOTHING WILL CHANGE IF YOU DON'T TRY. IN THIS PROCESS OF ENVISIONING THIS UPDATE, THERE IS MANAGING THE RISK.

THAT'S WERE SOMETIMES GOVERNMENT STRUGGLES, WE HAVE ALWAYS PUT THAT WAY. THAT IS SAFE.

WHEN WE THINK ABOUT VALUE, ARE YOU CONTINUING ADDING VALUE? NOT JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THEIR LIFESTYLE?

>> WHAT YOU SAID, PUTTING ON THE GAS IN THE BREAKS WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PLANNING AND NOT ALWAYS EXECUTING.

>> I THINK ONE THING LOCAL GOVERNMENT STRUGGLES WITH OUR MANAGING EXPECTATIONS. YOU SURE THAT ALL THE TIME FROM THE PUBLIC, WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS, DO MORE OF THIS, DO MORE OF THAT. YOU GET WHIPLASH.

THIS PROCESS IS NOT GOING TO FIX THAT BUT IT DOES ALLOW YOU TO PAUSE AND GO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT? ANY OF THESE OTHER EXAMPLES FROM OTHER CITIES, NOT TO CUT-AND-PASTE -- NOT TRYING TO SHARE WITH THEM THE SENTIMENT

COMING FROM THE COUNCIL. >> I THINK WE HAVE TO SOME

WAY -- IT'S OUR BIGGEST ASSETS. >> I THINK YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING IN PASSING THAT IS WORTH KEEPING IN MIND.

>> WHEN WE THINK ABOUT CHARACTER, THAT'S DEFINITELY THE PERSONALITY. CHARACTER IS ABOUT VALUES,

CHOICES. >> US AS A LEADERSHIP BODY IN THIS COMMUNITY, PEOPLE BASICALLY EVERYWHERE.

ALMOST EVERYONE IN A POSITION OF LEADERSHIP GOT SO USED TO USING THE LEFT SIDE OF OUR BRAIN BECAUSE WE LOOK AT THINGS OPERATIONALLY AND LOOK AT WHAT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE AND WHAT WE ARE DOING IN THE FUTURE. I AM MOST DON'T LIKE THE EXAMPLES FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES, I THINK THERE'S VALUE VALUE IN IT. WE NEED TO START WITH A BLANK SLATE A BLANK CANVAS, WE NEED TO USE THE RIGHT SIDE OF OUR BRAIN.

WE ARE NOT GOOD AT THAT ANYMORE. I DON'T THINK WE ARE AS OPENLY CREATIVE, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN THIS PROCESS, JUST BE

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BUT LET'S THROW THAT AWAY. >> PLAY IT SAFE.

>> THAT WILL BE VERY HELPFUL. >> I'M OF THE MIND-SET, YOU WANT TO DETERMINE WHAT YOUR VISION IS, WHAT IS THE CHARACTER OF THE CITY, I WANT TO DETERMINE WHAT IS OUR IDENTITY.

>> GOOD POINT. >> SOME OF YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT, WHO ARE WE? SOME GOVERNMENTS STRUGGLING ALSO TAKE THE PEANUT BUTTER APPROACH, THEY TAKE SOMETHING AND SPLIT IT UP TO EVERYTHING, VERY INEGALITARIAN.

IT'S WHAT DO YOU WANT TO BECOME A WHAT IS YOUR VALUE PROPOSITION? WHAT ARE YOUR CORE STRENGTHS AS A COMMUNITY -- HOW DO YOU CAPITALIZE ON THOSE? GEOGRAPHY SOMETIMES IS JUST GOOD FORTUNE, ACCESS TO AMENITIES IT'S ABOUT LEVERAGING THOSE ASSETS.

SOME COMMUNITIES ARE THE ENVY OF OTHER COMMUNITIES, HOW DO YOU

LEVERAGE THOSE? >> YOU HAVE TO IDENTIFY YOUR

DIFFERENTIATORS. >> WE DEFINITELY CAN EXPLORE THAT. BE CREATIVE, WHAT MAKES THIS COMMUNITY DISTINCTIVE. WHICH KIND OF DISPELS THE MYTH THAT IT ENDS UP BEING A VISION, IT'S A LITTLE BIT GENERIC.

I THINK THOSE ARE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES.

IS NOT ABOUT THROWING CAUTION TO THE WIND.

ARE WE GOOD ABOUT THAT? THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO IS TEASE THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT. THE VISION IS FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE MISSION IS FOR THE WORKFORCE.

THE VISION IS WHERE YOU ARE GOING, AMBITION IS HOW YOU GET THERE. JUST AGAIN SHARING WITH YOU, THIS IS MORE FOR STAFF. WE ARE NOT TRYING TO CREATE IT TONIGHT, JUST TRYING TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK.

NOT KNOWING WHAT THE VISION IS, WE KNOW THAT.

TRYING TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS. YOU GO UP TO AN EMPLOYEE AFTER THIS IS ADOPTED, YOU ASK THE EMPLOYEE WHAT IS YOUR VISION, HOW THEY CONNECT THAT WAS MAC DO YOUR EMPLOYEES HAVE A JOB OR A ROLE? WHAT'S MORE PROMINENT THEIR JOB OR THEIR ROLE? WHO WAS RESPONSIBILITY IN THE ORGANIZATION IS IT TO DELIVER HIGH-QUALITY CUSTOMER SERVICE?

>> ANYBODY? >> EVERYBODY.

[LAUGHTER] IS IT FAIR TO SAY IT'S EVERYONE'S RESPONSIBILITY. WILL FIND THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY IT'S ONLY PEOPLE WHO WORK THE COUNTER, ON THE PHONE AROUND IN THE FIELD DIRECTLY WITH CUSTOMERS.

THAT'S WHAT YOU EXPECT YOU KNOW WHO ENDS UP GETTING TAPPED THE MOST? FIELD MAINTENANCE PEOPLE, SITTING ON A MOWER, PLOWING A FIELD MOWING THE RIGHT OF WAY THEY GET TAPPAN'S SHOULDER BY RESIDENTS, CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT I'M JUST SHARING WITH YOU THOSE EXAMPLES.

THOSE PEOPLE TEND TO NOT ALWAYS BE WELL SKILLED IN THEIR ROLE AS SERVICE DELIVERY. I'M TAPPING ON THE SHOULDER, WHAT IS THEIR MISSION? IS IT MEMORABLE? WHAT YOU THINK SHOULD GO INTO THAT? DISPLAYING A LITTLE SPAGHETTI TONIGHT, WHAT DO YOU THINK SHOULD BE SOME BOARDS THAT GO IN THERE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE PEOPLE

TO CONSIDER. >> EXCEPTIONAL.

>> EXCEPTIONAL. >> I THINK OWNERSHIP AND

BELONGING. >> IF I CAME UP TO YOU AND YOUR THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR OR CITY MANAGER, I SAID I'M SO EXCITED TO BE A CITY EMPLOYEE THE FIRST DAY I'VE EVER WORKED AT -- WHAT IS MY MISSION? YOU GOT FIVE SECONDS.

>> DELIVERING EXCEPTIONAL SERVICES OF THE RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES, VISITORS OF REL RELATIVE.

>> EXCEPTIONAL TRIP TO WHAT? OTHER THOUGHTS.

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WHAT IS MY ROLE? >> TO ME THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE RIGHT THERE. THIS IS THE STORY OF THE JANITOR WORKING AT NASA THEY WERE TRYING TO LAUNCH THE ROCKET OF THE MOON COMPETING WITH THE RUSSIANS AND JFK I THINK AND SAID WHAT ARE YU DOING HERE? TRYING TO PUT A MAN ON THE MOON, THAT WAS HIS JOB AS PART OF THAT TEAM, PUT A MAN ON THE MOON.

THAT'S WHAT ALL OF OUR FOLKS NEED TO BE WORKING ON IS PROVIDING EXCEPTIONAL SERVICES REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY ARE

DOING. >> WHO DEFINES EXCEPTIONAL?

>> THE CUSTOMER. THE PUBLIC.

KEEP IT IN MIND REMEMBER SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE KNOW. YOU ARE ALSO A REGULATOR, THEY CAN'T BEND THE RULES. WE CAN'T GET YOU A PERMIT LIKE THAT, THOSE ARE THE CHALLENGES TRYING TO DELIVER EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE. BEING SOMEWHAT NEUTRAL ABOUT

THAT, THAT'S THE CHALLENGE. >> IN OUR COMMUNITY SURVEY OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT GOT HIGH MARKS BUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MEETS PEOPLE ON THEIR WORST DAY ALMOST EVERY TIME.

AND YET THEY FIND A WAY IN THE MIDST OF THAT DELIVER EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE. IN THE EYES OF THE PUBLIC.

>> THE MOST IMPORTANT EMPLOYEE OF DISNEY WORLD WAS THE GUY PICKING UP THE TRASH BECAUSE HE KNOWS WHERE EVERY SHOW IS, HE KNOWS WHAT TIMES THEY ARE, HE'S AN INFORMATION FOR EVERY

VISITOR. >> IS THAT ON PURPOSE OR IS THAT ON ACCIDENT? IT'S ON PURPOSE.

HIRING A BUILDING, DEVELOPING. >> EVERYTHING AT DISNEY IS ON

PURPOSE. >> WHATEVER YOU ARE ACHIEVING, YOU ARE CHEATING ON PURPOSE. SOME OF THIS IS GOING TO HOW YOU LOOK TO DEVELOP AN ACCOUNT. IT DOESN'T START TO CREATE A BIT OF A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT CULTURE. THE CULTURE IS BECOMING VERY PROMINENT. EXCEPTIONAL, IT'S A KEYWORD TO OPERATE FROM. [LAUGHTER]

>> CONSISTENT. >> IN MY DAY JOB WE USE THE EOS SYSTEM, THEY HAVE WHAT'S CALLED AN EOS LIGHT.

IS DOING WHAT YOU LOVE WITH PEOPLE THAT YOU LOVE, MAKING A HUGE DIFFERENCE, THEY COMPENSATE APPROPRIATELY WITH TIME AND PASSION. I DON'T THINK WE CAN STEAL THAT, MAKING A HUGE DIFFERENCE TO ME GOES ALONG WITH EXCEPTIONAL, MAKING THE DIFFERENCE OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING.

>> YOU TALK TO STAFF OVER THE YEARS I THINK HAVING SPENT 15 YEARS IN THE CITY GOVERNMENT, I THINK WHAT GIVES PEOPLE THE MOST SATISFACTION IS YOU'RE JUST CHANGING LIVES -- NO PRESSURE OR ANYTHING BUT PRESSURE IS A PRIVILEGE.

THAT IS THE FUNCTIONAL ASPECT WHETHER IT'S A COWORKER ABLE TO HELP OUT, A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.

YOU ARE IN THE PEOPLE BUSINESS. SOMETIMES THAT GETS LOST IN TRANSLATION OF PROGRAMS, BUDGETS, SERVICES.

[INAUDIBLE] YOU ARE A SERVICE CENTERED

ORGANIZATION. >> THE 2018 -- I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. A LITTLE BIT OF CAP HE ASKED THE MAYOR SAID ABOUT OTHER INTE INTERESTS.

WITH WHAT PEOPLE ARE DOING, HOW IS OUR STAT BEING WRITTEN.

>> ARE 2018 MISSION STATEMENT WE DID HAVE A MISSION STATEMENT -- THE CITY OF RELATIVE PROVIDES INNOVATIVE AND CITIZEN CENTERED SERVICES THAT EXCEED THE EXPECTATIONS OF OUR RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES AND GUESTS. OUR PURPOSE IS TO SERVE.

>> SOME MIGHT SAY IT'S A PHRASE, OUR PURPOSE IS TO SERVE.

>> OUR PURPOSE IS TO PROVIDE EXCEPTIONAL SERVICES.

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>> IT'S A CONVERSATION STARTER, IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE --

>> I THINK WE SHOULD BE A CITY WHERE PEOPLE ARE PROUD TO LIVE.

IT SHOULD BE A PLACE PEOPLE ARE PROUD.

>> I WOULD ARGUE IT WAS THAT WAY -- IF WE STILL THINK

ANYBODY'S FIGHTING. >> I WOULD GO SO FAR AS TO SAY PRIDE IS A VALUE. CHOICES REFLECT OUR INTER INTERACTIONS. LET'S KEEP MOVING I KNOW IT'S GETTING LATE ON MONDAY. PROBABLY WANT TO GO SEE THE RANGERS ARE WINNING OR LOSING. JUST TRYING TO SEE IF YOU WERE LISTENING, THE NEXT PART IS, THE STRATEGIC FOCUS AREA, PROVIDING SEVERAL SAMPLES. YOU HAVE AGAIN FOR THE ONE THAT I HAD, SEVERAL STRATEGIC FOCUS AREAS, THESE ARE STRATEGIC PRIORITY AREAS. CALL THEM WHAT YOU WILL COME OF THESE ARE AREAS THAT TYPICALLY DON'T CHANGE YEAR TO YEAR.

GOALS AND OBJECTIVES ARE CHANGED BUT THE PRIORITY AREA -- THEY ARE USUALLY ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, TRANSPORTATION, ECONOMICS, SAFE AND HEALTHY COMMUNITY THE COMMUNITY OUT OUTREACH. I JUST WORKED LACKED THE MIC LAST YEAR -- HIGH-GROWTH. THAT FORTH WHEN THEY SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT IT, A STRATEGIC FOCUS AREA.

EMERGING ISSUES THEY THOUGHT THEY WOULD HELP THE ORGANIZATION PAY ATTENTION TO TRENDS. DON'T GET LOST AMIDST THE SHUFFLE THAT'S GOING ON NOW THEY WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT -- I THOUGHT THAT WAS REFLECTIVE OF THEIR SPIRIT.

WE DON'T WANT TO GET STUCK IN THE PAST -- I JUST SHARING THAT WITH YOU, THAT WAS THE BACKDROP. THEY HAVE CONVENTIONAL ONES MOVING ON, THEY HAVE OTHER EXAMPLES.

OF IT ALL BASICALLY SAYING JUST CHANGE SOME LANGUAGE.

PAGE 16 IS BARTLESVILLE, ALMOST MIRRORING EACH OTHER.

FASCINATING COMMUNITY, LAKE FOREST THE NORTH SHORE OF CHICAGO, RESIDENTIAL -- YOU SEE EXAMPLES, STRAIGHTFORWARD.

THE TECH CORRIDOR OR JUST NORTH OF CHARLOTTE.

FAIR OAKS, PAGE 18. JUST SHARING THE EXAMPLES.

THAN THE ONES I HAD FOR YOU, PAGE 19 I ASSUME THOSE ARE

UPDATES. >> I THINK WE HAVE SIX NOW.

GOVERN TRANSPARENTLY AND INCLUSIVELY WAS A STRATEGIC PRIORITY. ENSURE A SAFE COMMUNITY, STRENGTHEN NEIGHBORHOOD LIVABILITY, ENHANCE QUALITY OF LIFE WILL FOSTER ECONOMIC VITALITY, MORE THAN SIX.

INVEST IN TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND PROMOTE OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE. WAS THAT EIGHT?

>> 7. >> THOUGHTS ABOUT THOSE? THEY ARE PRETTY GENERAL, NOT TRYING TO NECESSARILY MAKE BIG CHANGES TO THOSE, I THINK THOSE ARE GOOD STARTING POINT TO WORK FROM. WITHIN EACH OF THOSE THERE'S GOING TO BE OBJECTIVES YOU'RE TRYING TO BE DISTINCTIVE.

>> CAN I ASK YOU -- THIS IS SOMETHING I KNOW THE FULL COUNCIL ISN'T BEHIND BUT BEING ENGAGED WITH THE CITIZENS, CONNECTED ENGAGED COMMUNITIES. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE IT ON

THERE. >> THAT DEFINITELY HAS BEEN TRENDING ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO HAVE THAT AS A STRATEGIC PRIORITY. THINK OF A SMALL CHANGE, THINK OF ENGAGEMENT AS A VERB NOT A NOUN.

YOU ARE ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY ON A REGULAR BASIS.

IT'S BECOME 24-7, 365. MOST COMMUNITIES ARE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT. THINGS HAPPEN AT ALL HOURS OF

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THAT'S OKAY, WHAT IS THE STRATEGY.

YOU GOT A GREAT STORY TO TELL, THE QUESTION IS TELLING IT.

>> THAT'S IN OUR BUDGET, WE REALLY LIKE THAT SLIDE AND THAT

WORD, THINK THAT'S GOOD TO. >> STEWARDSHIP.

>> YOUR ORGANIZATION, YOUR EMPLOYER HOW YOU ARE DEVELOPING TALENT AND SERVICES. MARGINS ARE DEPARTMENT CENTRIC, TO EXECUTE WHATEVER THAT GOAL IS.

THE FACT THAT THEY ARE NOT DOING THAT NOW IT RISES TO THE OCCASION. I JUST PROVIDE EXAMPLES FOR SOME PEOPLE STRUGGLE WITH -- I LIKE THIS PRAISE, EXTRACTS THEIR

IMAGINATION. >> CAN YOU ADD VISUAL CHARACTER, SOMETHING ALONG THAT? THAT'S ONE THING I KNOW I HAVE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

-- WE CAN BRING IT UP AND PUT IT ON PAPER.

>> IS ABOUT GOALS AND OBJE OBJECTIVES.

WHAT I WANT TO TRY TO DO, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO BE CONSIDERED.

I THINK THAT DEFINITELY IS GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THERE.

I CAN'T PROMISE IT'S GOING TO MAKE THE CUT, SOMEBODY TALKED ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, GROWTH, LAND-USE.

>> I CAN SAY MANY ADVERBS IN FRONT OF THAT OR VERBS, MEASURE

THE SUCCESS OF ET CETERA. >> I WOULD EDIT STARTED OFF IN THE VERY BEGINNING, THE CHALLENGE OF A STRATEGIC PLAN -- FOR ANY POINT TO BE GOOD, HAD MEASURABLE TOUCH POINTS ON ITS,

SOMETHING ON THAT LINE TOO. >> GOOD POINT, ABSOLUTELY.

IT'S GOT TO BE OPERATIONALIZED SOMEHOW.

>> WHEN WE SAY GOALS HOLD BIGGER BE TALKING VERSUS CLOSING IN?

>> HOWEVER YOU WANT. >> ECONOMIC DIVERSIFICATION.

RESTORING THAT, SAYING THAT -- >> WILL MAINTAINED INFRASTRUCTURE. WE CAN WRITE PUBLIC SAFETY, IT'S GOING TO BE ON THERE SOMEWHERE. SOME OF THESE ARE LAYUPS.

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BIKE LANES OR DOG PARKS, ALL OF THIS, WHAT IS THEIR STRATEGY? THAT'S BECOMING PART OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT TH THERE.

>> OUR DOWNTOWN AREA WE WANTED TO BE GATHERING PLACE.

I THINK DOWNTOWN IS A LIVING ROOM, IT'S WHERE PEOPLE CAN BE.

>> CULTURAL OPPORTUNITIES. WHICH TIE INTO WHAT YOU SAID A

SECOND AGO. >> THE TALENT ACQUISITION AND RETENTION. THE BENEFIT OF HAVING STAFF ON THIS COMMITTEE AS THEY CAN RECOGNIZE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT ELSE -- THAT'S THE CHALLENGE, HOW DOES THAT INTERSECT WITH WHAT'S ALREADY IN PLAY. IT'S ALWAYS A CHALLENGE, NOT UNIQUE TO THIS. EVERYTHING THEY DISCUSSED WILL HAVE MERIT, EDITING IS THE HARDEST PARTS.

SOME THINGS WILL BE PUSHED OUT, IN THE NEAR TERM RIGHT NOW, WHAT YOU WANT TO DO RIGHT NOW? THEN THERE'S THE SHORT TERM, THE NEXT YEAR, LONG TERM IS NEXT YEAR OR TWO.

THE STRATEGIC PLAN ABOUT TIME FRAMES, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO

WITH ALL THIS? >> LIKE YOU SET THE START, IT GOES BACK TO YOU CAN'T BOIL THE OCEAN.

>> DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T REVISIT IT, THEY WILL BE CONVENING FOR AN UPDATE. WHAT'S HAPPENED, WHAT'S CHANGED,

YOU GET A CHANCE TO MODERNIZE. >> WE DEVELOP A MUST DO LIST,

MAYBE A WISH LIST. >> I WOULD EVEN GO AS FAR AS TO SAY THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT UP.

THERE'S THINGS YOU MUST DO, THESE ARE STATUTORY.

WE HAVE A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THESE THINGS. THERE IS NEED TO DO, THEN THERE'S NICE TO DO. THIS IS WHERE THINGS GET TOUGH.

TO SOME PEOPLE THAT IS A NEED TO COME AT THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT'S

A NICE. >> I'M THINKING WE CAME UP WITH A LIST, THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO DO, WE WILL DO.

>> WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS THING EVERY COUPLE YEARS,

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>> GOOD POINT. DOESN'T MAKE THE INITIAL CUT,

SOME WER THE HORIZON. >> I THINK WE HAVE TO DELIVER

RESULTS. >> I WOULD GO SO FAR AS TO NOT ONLY DELIVER, THIS IS HOW WE D DID, I THOUGHT ABOUT VANITY -- IT'S ABOUT HUMILITY AND GRACE. HOW DO YOU VALIDATE THE VALUE PROPOSITION, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING.

SOME OF THE STUFF IS UNDER THE GROUND.

BUT IT'S ON THE STORYTELLING YOU HAVE A GREAT STORY TO TELL.

HOW ARE YOU TELLING THAT STORY? >> WHAT I SEE FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES IS WHEN THERE IS THAT UNDERGROUND CONSTRUCTION AND A BACK A ONE BULLDOZER THERE'S ALSO A SIGN OUT THERE SAYING HERE'S WHAT'S HAPPENING, HERE'S A QR CODE, CHECK IT OUT.

IT'S MARKETING JUST LIKE YOU SAID.

I'M GETTING LOOKS FROM STAFF I'M NOT SURE IF THEY ARE GOOD LOOKS OR BAD LOOKS BUT I'M GETTING LOOKS -- THUMBS UP, THAT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO. [LAUGHTER]

>> IS NOT PRIORITIZED, IT'S CALLED SOCIAL WORK.

A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE DO IT. IT'S ONE THING I WILL MENTION TO THE STAKEHOLDER MEETING. ONCE THIS PLAN IS ADOPTED AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO GO OUT AND VALIDATED TO ALL ALL OF THEIR AUDIENCES. THEY NEED TO BE EQUIPPED WITH WHAT THAT MEANS, NOT JUST SPEKING OF GENERALITIES.

>> TRANSPARENCY, SOMEBODY MENTIONED FISCAL STEWARDSHIP.

COMMUNITY BUY-IN NOT EVERYBODY IS ON FACEBOOK, TRYING TO THINK WHAT IS THE STRATEGY? HEARD THE TERM SPRAY AND PRAY, GOVERNMENTS DO THAT A LOT. THEY DO MICRO-TARGETING, THEY PRINT ALGORITHMS, JUST TRYING TO CREATE THE CONTENT THAT IS JUST FOR THAT. YOU THINK ABOUT GREAT CONTENT HOW ARE YOU MARKETING THAT TWO DIFFERENT AUDIENCES? THAT'S A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO THE CAPABILITY OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. YOU GET IN THIS PLAN ABOUT TURBIDITY OUTREACH THEY ARE SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT.

SEE WHAT WORKS, WHAT DOESN'T, TRY SOMETHING ELSE.

THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO HAVE THICK SKIN WHEN PEOPLE GO WHY DO YOU WASTE RESOURCES ON THAT, WHAT ARE YOU SPENDING TIME AND MONEY ON THAT FOR? WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, IT'S HOW YOU ENCOUNTER THAT COME A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE BUSY IN THEIR LIVES OR WHATEVER. HOW DO YOU GET THE ATTENTION OF PEOPLE NOT ALWAYS PAYING ATTENTION?

>> THERE WOULD BE SOMEBODY PEOPLE IN THE ROOM, THAT'S THE

THING. >> ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE DOING I MENTIONED THIS IN PASSING, PUTTING TOGETHER SOME BRANDING AND MARKETING AND THESE CONVERSATIONS.

MALCOLM WAS LISTED, SCHOOL IS STARTING -- SOME PARENTS MAY KNOW ABOUT IT. WE ARE TRYING TO HAVE A BROAD REACH, GET AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN.

IF WE DON'T GET A GREAT TURNOUT, DON'T BE DISAPPOINTED.

SOMETIMES HAVE HAD GREAT CONVERSATIONS WITH TEN PEOPLE IN 30 PEOPLE, NOT SO MUCH. I COME BACK HERE AND SAY WE HAVE 35 PEOPLE. I KNOW WE COVERED A LOT OF TRADE TONIGHT IN THE FINAL PAGE OF NEXT STEPS IS THE SCHEDULE, TRYING TO GET UP TO SPEED, TEED UP AND BACK IN A FEW WEEKS.

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I THINK THAT HELPS THE PROCESS. THIS IS WHAT WE DID, THIS IS THE SPIRIT BEHIND IT, THIS IS WHERE WE HIT A SNAG, WHAT HAVE YOU.

WILL NOT BE BACK IN OCTOBER TO FINE-TUNE IT, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT TONIGHT? TRY NOT TO RUSH IT THROUGH, GET A CHANCE TO PROCESS. SOME OF THIS IS NOT TOP OF MIND FOR PEOPLE, APPRECIATE THE PUBLIX PATIENCE.

>> DO YOU HAVE ANY PART OF THIS FOR YOU DOING -- I THINK IT WOULD REALLY HELP WE DID THAT WITH THE STEERING COMMUNITY COME OUT OF THAT CAN COME A LOT OF LEVERAGING STRENGTHS THAT YOU HAVE, NOT NECESSARILY TRYING TO CORRECT FOR YOUR WEAKNESSES BUT ACKNOWLEDGING THAT'S A BIG PART OF IT.

>> WE WILL DO IT, YES. >> IT'S A 78 PAGE DOCUMENT THAT CAME OUT, WHO WRITES IT AND DO YOU HAVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE SPLIT UP RESPONSIBLE FOR DIFFERENT SECTIONS?

>> THE STEERING COMMITTEE WILL WRITE UP AS WE GO ON, I WILL GO ON THE RECORD NOW AND SAY IT WON'T BE 78 PAGES.

SPEAK OF THE LAST ONE WAS NOT WRITTEN BY THE STEERING COMMITTEE, WE HAD TWO CONSULTANTS AND THEY WERE VERY HELPFUL, VERY COMPREHENSIVE. YOU CAN FIND IT ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE WE HAD A GOVERNING DOCUMENTS PAGE SPECIFICALLY IT'S GOT PHOTOS AND COLOR GRAPHICS COME ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

AT THE END SOMEONE HELPFUL, SUPPORTIVE GOALS COME ACROSS REFERENCES PLEASE CHECK IT OUT TO.

YOU WILL UNDOUBTEDLY LOOK AT THIS, A TON OF WORK WHEN TO DO IT IT'S GOT SOME GOOD STUFF IN IT.

>> IT MAKES REFERENCE TO ALL KINDS OF STUFF IS NO LONGER RELEVANT. WE ARE TO WORK THROUGH AN ENTIRE PANDEMIC THAT CHANGED THE COMMERCIAL MARKETPLACE.

WE ARE IN A DIFFERENT WORLD. >> ONE OF THE AREAS THE STEERING COMMITTEE WILL TOUCH ON A BIT TOMORROW IS WHAT IS THE MARKETING STRATEGY, ONCE THIS IS ADOPTED TO.

IT WILL PROBABLY BE A 4 TO A SIX PAGE DOCUMENTS, AGAIN THE CITY HALL AT THE BROCHURE -- IT'S HOW DO YOU MARKET OUT THERE, TO YOUR POINT HOW ARE YOU GOING TO COMMUNICATE THIS? I'VE HAD CLIENTS GO ON PODCAST, LET THE OFFICIALS GO ON DIFFERENT PLATFORMS -- SOME MAY REQUIRE YOU TO DO THINGS DIFFERENT. IT'S DIFFERENT MEDIUMS, IT CAN'T JUST BE YOU ADOPT IT AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WITH A LOT OF CITIES. THEN YOU LOSE MOMENTUM, GETTING IT OUT, MARKETING IT, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO IT, PARTNERING WTH PARTNERS THERE WILL BE A FOUR COLOR PEACE.

WHAT IS THAT GOING TO BE DISTRIBUTED?

>> IS THERE SOME KIND OF PERFORMANCE AUDIT -- DOES THE COUNCIL CHECK THE STRATEGIC PLA% AND HOW OFTEN DO WE DO ONE OF THESE? IS THE RIGHT CADENCE TO THAT

PROCESS? >> WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS IT'S UPDATED AT LEAST QUARTERLY AND REPORTED TO THE COUNCIL.

MAYBE ONCE A YEAR YOU CAN BE IN THE COUNCIL, THAT WAY IT BECOMES PART OF YOUR DNA AND WHEN PEOPLE JOIN THE COUNCIL DATE SAY WE DO

IT EVERY YEAR,. >> IS IT A CHALLENGE THAT THE STRATEGIC PLAN CAN BE TRANSFERRED FROM ONE ADMINISTRATION TO THE OTHER. WHATEVER YOU DECIDE IS MAYOR, THE NEXT MAYOR COMES INTO THEY SAY WE DON'T REALLY LIKE THAT --

>> AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO IS KEEP A STABLE VISION LONG-TERM.

THAT'S THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF THE FLYWHEEL, SMALL STEPS IN THE SAME DIRECTION ON A CONSISTENT BASIS OVER TIME YOU GENERATE MOMENTUM. THE PROBLEM YOU HAVE IS AS YOU SAY IS THE APPLICABLE BODY CHANGES, THERE IS GREAT FOCUS.

IF YOU DO THAT TO BASICALLY BE SET TO.

THE CHALLENGE IS TO TRY TO DEVELOP THAT VISION WHICH IS TRULY CONSISTED OF WHERE YOU WANT TO BE LONG-TERM AS A COMMUNITY AND DEVELOP THAT SORT OF CONSENSUS NOT ONLY BY AN ELECTED BODY BUT OF THE COMMUNITY, THIS WHERE WE WANT TO GO, SO THAT WHEN THE POLICY CHANGES YOU DON'T NECESSARILY END UP WITH A COMPLETE REVISION. END UP WITH VARIATIONS ON THE THEME BUT YOU CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARD THAT LONG-TERM GOAL.

YOU CAN DO THAT AS AN ORGANIZATION AND BE VERY SUCCESSFUL. IF YOU DON'T YOU CAN WASTE A LOT

OF RESOURCES. >> ONE OF THE KEYS IS GETTING

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WHEN THE NEXT COUNSELOR GOES TO THE CAMPAIGN SEASON WE WILL HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US, KEEPING THAT AT THE FOREFRONT OF THE NEXT COUNCIL.

>> THAT KEEPS CONTINUITY THROUGH DIFFERENT COUNCILS.

THEY CAN LEAPFROG BUT WHAT I CALL IT A MANDATORY MEETING --

>> THE BEST PRACTICE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS THE ANNUAL COUNCIL WHICH WOULD THIS IS THE FOCUS.

THE VISION TWEAKED A LITTLE BIT BUT YOU WANT TO FOCUS ON THOSE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN LONG-TERM YOU

KEEP ON WORKING THAT LIST. >> I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU DO IN THE UPDATES.

WE TRY TO DO THAT THIS YEAR, IT'S TOUGH TO THAT COMING OUT OF THE GATE BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO TRY TO HAVE.

THIS IS NOT BUDGETS 2.0 BUT THE SAME TIME NOT ALL THE STRATEGIC PLANS WILL HAVE A PRICE TAG. COULD HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS PRIOR TO THE BUDGETS. IT TAKES A FEW YEARS TO GET TO THAT BUT I'VE SEEN MANY TIMES CITIES USE A STRATEGIC PLAN AS A

GUIDING DOCUMENT. >> I LIKE THAT QUESTION, BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE IN THE PAST HAS NOT WORKED.

WE GOT TO THE FINISH LINE, STUCK IT OUT THERE AND THAT WAS IT.

WE USED IT A LITTLE BIT, WE STILL USE IT A LITTLE BIT IN OUR PACKETS, IT MAKES REFERENCE -- YOU SEE THAT STRATEGIC PRIORITY LIST AND OUR STAFF REPORTS. IS IT USED ON A DAILY BASIS AND EVERYTHING WE DO? PROBABLY NOT.

THE LAST THREE DOWNTOWN STRATEGIC PLANS WE HAVE, IN SOME CASES OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WE DON'T LOOK AT THE OFFENSE AS WE SHOULD TO. THERE'S ANY NUMBER OF PLANS THE CITY HAS BUILT OUT, YOU ASKED THE QUESTION IS THE COUNCIL DESIGNED TO HOLD THE STAFF COME I WOULD SAY YES AND THE PUBLIC WOULD MAKE REFERENCE TO THAT AND SAY WE SEEM TO BE ON COURSE H HERE. SENDING US AN EMAIL COME ALL OF THOSE THINGS, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT MAKE FOR GOOD GOVERNANCE.

I REALLY LIKE THAT QUESTION, IT REALLY IS HELPFUL TO KEEP US ON TRACK, NOT ONLY HOW WE EMPLOY THIS BUT MAINTAIN IT DOWN THE

ROAD TO. >> I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL THEY WOULD BE A PART OF THIS PROCESS. I THINK THAT SHOULD BE FOLDED INTO THIS AS WELL, THEY ARE TELLING US THINGS AND THAT SHOULD BE A VERY BIG PART OF OUR PLAN.

WE ASK, WE HEARD, NOW WE NEED TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE PROCES.

>> WE HAVE TO DO ONE EVERY 15 YEARS, THAT IS PART OF THAT PROCESS TOO. HOW DO DEVELOP BASELINES AND

TRENDS? >> WE WILL DIG INTO THAT -- WE WILL SEE WHAT ELEMENTS CAN WE REPURPOSE.

I WOULD SAY THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT TO BE HERE AND I WANT TO BE YOUR PARTNER AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

THINK OF THIS PROCESS AS A FUTURE COMMUNITY OUTREACH WE ARE DOING THINGS DIFFERENT, THERE ARE LESSONS TO BE LEARNED WITH THAT. MOST GOVERNMENTS ARE AT THIS PLACE WHERE THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING THEY DO IS GOING YOU DON'T KNOW. GETTING PEOPLE'S ATTENTION, SOME OF THE STUFF THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT VERY APPEALING.

IT JUST ISN'T. HOW DO WE MAKE THIS APPEALING? IT'S A LOT OF THE STORYTELLING. I'M NOT SURE WE WILL HEAR BUT HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM. WHAT IS A CITY DOING ABOUT THIS? MY RESPONSE SOMETIMES THAT'S WHAT SCHOOLS DO, THE CITY IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SCHOOLS. TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THEIR ROLES AS A CITIZEN, NOT TO SAY NO I'M JUST TRY TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND BETTER WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE CITY, THEY HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING WHEN THEY WALK OUT TO.

I'M DOING WHAT I CAN TO HELP THEM TO INFORM.

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>> LAST ONE, IT SAYS THE COMMUNITY CONVERSATION --

>> THAT'S THE ONE YOU'RE GOING TO SEND THOSE NAMES TO CHRISTOPH AT! OF THE YEAR, THE REST ARE OPEN

TO THE PUBLIC. >> IS THAT A REPRESENTATIVE --

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR? >> PEOPLE THAT REPRESENTED CETACEANS COME ORGANIZATIONS BUT THE COMMUNITY, THE OPEN ONES WANT TO COME FROM THE PUBLIC. THAT'S HOW IT WILL BE FRAMED IN THE MARKETING. SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING, SHOW UP AND THEY ARE VERY LOW TAX, I'M GIVING AN OVERVIEW OF STRATEGIC PLANNING COME I DON'T ASK PEOPLE TO SIGN THEIR NAME TO ANYTHING.

I DON'T CALL AND PEOPLE EITHER. ASK PEOPLE TO BE RESPECTFUL -- PARTICIPATE DON'T DOMINATE, WE WANT TO HEAR FROM IT AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN. I WILL COME BACK AND SAY HOW LONG HAVE YOU LIVED HERE? I ALWAYS LIKE TO ASK SOME OF US BASIC DEMOGRAPHICS, IT HELPS ME UNDERSTAND THE COMPOSITION OF THAT GROUP. I HOPE IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA WE ARE NOT JUST IN THERE, NOT JUST REPORTING IT BUT I'M TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR IT. FINAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON

THE AGENDA? >> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> THANK YOU, WE KNOW THERE HAS BEEN A PIVOT OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST SIX MONTHS, SEVEN MONTHS BUT WE APPRECIATE YOUR INDULGENCE IN A DRIVING THIS PROCESS ALONG IN THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE. AS YOU KNOW, THINGS CHANGE, THINGS HAPPEN. I WANT TO COMMEND EACH OF OUR MEMBERS HERE FROM THE STEERING COMMITTEE, THANK YOU FOR BEING PART OF THIS PROCESS AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING UP SEVERAL DAYS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS TO BE PART OF THIS PROCESS BECAUSE IT'S NOT EASY AND THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE JOBS OR FAMILIES WERE LIKELY STEPPING AWAY FROM THOSE COMMITMENTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES, THANK YOU GUYS FOR GIVING THAT, WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT. ANYBODY NEED A BREAK OR WE COULD

[3.C. Discussion of next steps for Herfurth Park, Animal Shelter, Public Safety Building, and City Hall.]

>> YOU GUYS LAUGH AT ME THE LAST TIME I SHOW THIS AS MY OPENIN

SLIDE HERE. >> TIMEOUT.

IF WE CAN HAVE EVERYBODY BRING THE NOISE DOWN A LITTLE BIT,

THANK YOU. >> WE WENT OUT AND MET WITH THE SAPPHIRE BAY MARINA. ACTUALLY POINTED OUT TO THE SOUTH OF THE MARINA IS THAT OPEN AREA, ACTUALLY ONE OF THE MOST

PREMIER SAILING SPOTS. >> DID YOU TAKE THAT PICTURE?

>> WE WERE IN IT. WE ARE GOING TALK ABOUT BROOKLYN PARK OF COURSE, THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK.

WE HAVE A BIT MORE SIGNIFICANT DECISIONS TO MAKE ON PUBLIC SAFETY, A LONGLEY DISCUSSION TO HAVE THEIR POTENTIALLY.

TALK ABOUT THE DESIGN AND CONSULTANT FOR THE FIRST PART.

THE PROPOSAL THERE IS THE THIRD% AMENDMENT, ACTUALLY ON THE AGENDA TOMORROW FOR CONSIDERATION.

PROPOSING TO USE ALLOWS IT TO MOVE FORWARD MORE QUICKLY.

OF YOUR ALREADY UNDER CONTRACT, ALSO THEY ALREADY HAVE A SUBCONSULTANT, ALL ABOUT DESIGN WORK.

THEY'VE BEEN PART OF A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS OUT OF THE PARK AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD WHAT KIND OF ELEMENTS SHOULD BE IN THE PARK VERSUS THE PLANE THEY PUT TOGETHER -- THE PLANE IS GOING TO BE SEEN TYPICALLY DIFFERENT FROM THIS.

BUILDINGS ARE DISAPPEARING, A LOT OF THE AMENITIES, FEEDBACK YOU GOT ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO THE PARK, CERTAINLY WE WANT THAT TO HAVE CONSISTENCY, THINGS LIKE SPORTS FIELDS.

THE SHADED STRUCTURES, THE PAVILIONS, THINGS THAT NATURE NATURE. THAT'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THAT DESIGN PROCESS.

DESIGN FEE JUST UNDER $400,000. TO GET THAT CONTEXT THE DESIGN,

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THE FACT THEY HAVE DONE SOME WORK HERE THEY'RE GIVING US A DISCOUNT ON THE PRICE TO MOVE FORWARD TO.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE RECEIVED, IS THIS A FIRM THAT ACTUALLY DOES PARKS? THEY ARE A BROADER DESIGN FIRM, IT'S WESTWOOD THAT'S OUR FOCUS ON LANDSCAPE, ARCHITECTURE AND DEVELOPING PARKS. THEY HAVE DONE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PARKS IN OTHER COMMUNITIES.

I'M WONDERING IF I CAN FLIP OVER TO THIS QUICK -- CAN YOU PUSH

>> WE RECONVENE IT IS

. >> I APOLOGIZE FOR THE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. A LOT OF QUESTIONS WE GOT.

HERE IS AN EXAMPLE. AN INTERESTING PIECE, ONE OF THE THINGS THEY WANTED TO DO. HEAR YOU HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF JUST THAT. WE CAN SEE WHAT KIND OF ELEMENTS THEY PUT TOGETHER FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

THEY ALSO, ANOTHER ONE IN TEXAS THEY ACTUALLY DID THIS DOWNTOWN THE PARK CALLED CROWLEY CROSSING.

SO THEY DO ENHANCE THE RESUME OF PARKS, PLAYGROUNDS.

IT IS ALSO WESTWARD THAT HAS DONE A LOT OF PLANNING FOR THE FACILITY. WE DO HAVE A QUALIFIED CONSULTANT WITH THE SITE. SO THEY ARE READY TO JUMP IN AND GET TO WORK. IF YOU WANT TO WORK WITH THAT PRESENTATION. THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD TO USE THIS TIMELINE.

IS THAT TOO SMALL? SO BASICALLY TALKING ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE WEEKS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.

WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET BACK TO THE BUDGET. PERHAPS TO DO SOME SURVEYS.

THROUGH SOME OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK WITH THE PROCESS. BUT ONCE WE GO TO THE DESIGN WE

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THEY WILL START COST ESTIMATION RIGHT UP FRONT AND WORK THROUGH US THROUGH THE PROCESS AND GET US MOVING THROUGH TO CONSTRUCTION FAIRLY QUICKLY. THAT MAKES IT MORE LIKELY TO BE ACCOMPLISHED. THE COMPLETION.

SO THAT IS THEY PARK. >> I REALLY LIKE THAT AND I ACTUALLY A KIND OF LIKE THAT ONE BUT SOME OF THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK WITH A PRESENTATION ON THAT. WHEN WE BOUGHT IT BACK IN 2018.

>> THERE WAS A MASTER PLAN THAT WAS DEVELOPED, ABSOLUTELY.

I DON'T THINK IT IS ANYWHERE WITH THE FEEDBACK AT THIS POINT.

>> THE QUESTION I HAVE IS THERE IS A TERM THEY'RE CALLED LESSER

PUBLIC. >> AND I WANT I DO NOT KNOW THAT I MEANT LESS COMPLICATION ABOUT THIS PIECE BECAUSE TALKING ABOUT THAT MAY BE LESS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT BY THE SIGHT, THE LOCATION. CERTAINLY NOT LESS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ABOUT THE DESIGN. SO CERTAINLY NOT RECOMMENDING.

>> THE DESIGN. >> CORRECT.

>> THEY QUESTIONED THE NEXT ONE ABOUT REIMAGINING.

BUT YOU DID PLAN TO ENGAGE THE PUBLIC TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE

ICE ON IT. >> EXACTLY.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE WAY IT WAS TALKED ABOUT DURING THE MASTER PLAN THERE WAS NO HOCKEY IN THAT PART. I THINK THE DIRECTION WE HAVE FROM THE COUNCIL IS THAT HOCKEY HAS A PLACE IN THAT PARK.

SO THAT WILL BE A KEY FEATURE. >> DIFFERENT SPOTS IN ONE DOCUMENT. I THINK THAT IS A QUESTION THAT

YOU ANSWERED. >> THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION BEFORE US TO KICK AROUND OUT THERE THIS PAST WEEK I HAD THREE PEOPLE APPROACHING ME ON THE NAME OF THE PARK.

THAT WAS GIVEN TO US. >> I'M ASKING ABOUT QUESTIONS THERE WAS A DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE.

>> SO IT WAS IS THERE GOING TO BE A CONVERSATION TO COME OUT ABOUT THIS HERFURTH PARK. I MEAN WHAT I HAVE GOING ON.

WHY WE HAVE THAT YOU KNOW ADDING VALUE TO THE CITY.

OF COURSE WHEN THAT COMES BRING ATTENTION.

WE SHOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF SIMILAR SIGNAGE.

IT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT THE FAMILY.

THE HERFURTH FAMILY. NONETHELESS ORDERS FROM YEARS AGO. THAT PERHAPS IT BECOMES THAT.

>> I STILL THINK THERE IS A TASK TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON THE HISTORY OF PARK DONATION AS PART OF THE DESIGN PROCESS.

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>> I WANT TO REVISIT HIS QUESTION BECAUSE THE ANSWER THAT HE GAVE WAS NOT QUITE RIGHT AND I WANT TO CLARIFY.

YOU LISTED TWO DIFFERENT APPROACHES.

THIS IS ALL UNDER THE HERFURTH PARK UMBRELLA.

ONE WAS TO REVISIT THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS AND THEN GO INTO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.

THAT THOSE TWO STEPS WOULD REQUIRE MORE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND TAKING AWAY THE MASTER DESIGN PROCESS.

THAT YOU SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED THAT GOING THROUGH TWO CONSULTANTS THERE WOULD BE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WITH BOTH CONSULTANTS RATHER THAN HAVING THE ONE CONSULTANT WHETHER IT BE ONE SET OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. SO LESS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT JUST OPERATIONALLY DUE TO THERE IS ONLY ONE CONSULTANT SEEKING FEEDBACK RATHER THAN TO. I THINK THAT IS WHAT IT SAYS.

>> IT IS CERTAINLY ACCURATE I GUESS THE QUESTION IS WHETHER IT IS QUANTITATIVELY DIFFERENT. YOU KNOW YOU WERE ASKING THE SAME QUESTION AND FOCUSED ON THE SAME SAYING JUST DOING IT ONCE

RATHER THAN TWICE. >> I DO NOT DISAGREE I JUST DO NOT WANT IT TO BE SHUFFLED OFF AS YOUR ANSWER MORE SET THAT WAS VERSUS THE OTHER SIDE WAS REALLY REFERENCING THE OTHER SIDE ACTUALLY REFERENCING THE SITE BUT IT MAKES SENSE BECAUS IF WE WANT TO DO THIS IN THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY POSSIBLE ON THE SCREEN APPEAR THE ONLY WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THAT IS THROUGH QUOTE, UNQUOTE, LESS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

THE OTHER OPTION WITH PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT IS TO DRAW THIS OUT AND HAVE TWO DIFFERENT CONSULTANTS ASK THE SAME QUESTIONS MAY BE MULTIPLE TIMES. WHICH MAY NOT BE IS NOT VERY

EFFICIENT. >> I THINK THE MORE CHALLENGE I HAVE WITH THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESSES LAST TIME THE MASTER PLAN PROCESSES QUITE TIME CONSTRAINED.

THE DESIGN CONTRACT SAYS YOU HAVE $5 MILLION TO SPEND.

YOU WANT TO GET THIS DELIVERED WE NEED TO GET A DESIGN WE CAN DELIVER. IS THERE A BETTER DESIGN THAT WE CAN PLAN FOR? ABSOLUTELY.

>> MY RECOMMENDATION TO YOU IS WE HAVE THAT PROCESS WHAT IS THE

HIGHEST PRIORITY. >> THINKING ABOUT THAT WITH THE ENGAGEMENT WE HAVE WITH THE PUBLIC AND THEN I THINK WHAT I SAW YOU KNOW WITH A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS THE PUBLIC ANNOUNCING.

>> THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE ON HERFURTH PARK IS THERE ANY REJECTION TO TAKING THIS APPROACH WITH WESTWOOD OUT OF THIS MORE EXPEDITED PLAN. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION.

OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. >> GOT THE FEEDBACK ON THE SIGNAGE AND REFERENCING THE FOUNDING FAMILIES.

>> I JUST GO THROUGH THE BOND PACKAGE AND IN THAT THERE WAS SURE WORK PARK AND THAT HAD VARIOUS STAGES.

WE HAVE DONE THAT YOU KNOW IT IS A GREEN GRASS.

HERE IS A BOND PACKAGE HERE IS WHAT YOU PAY FOR HERE IS WHAT YOU GET. A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCONNECT.

YOU HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO EXPLAIN.

>> EXPLAIN THAT ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.

>> THAT THEY DESIGN WAS CREATED UNDER THE 2018 PACKAGE.

UNDER THAT 2024-2023 PACKAGE AND WE ARE NOW IN 2026.

WITH YEAR OVER YEAR 10% LESS INFLATION IN SOME CASES.

NOT REALISTIC NOR DOES IT MAKE SENSE FROM THE STANDPOINT.

I'VE SHARED MY FEEDBACK ON THE SPLASH PAD FOR EXAMPLE THERE MAY BE OTHER AMENITIES IN THE PACKAGE THAT NEED TO BE RECONSIDERED. MAYBE EVEN 2024 THAT DO NOT MAKE

SENSE TODAY. >> AND THERE HAS BEEN DEVELOPMENT IN FRONT OF THE PARK WITH THE BOND PACKAGE.

>> THAT IS RIGHT. YOU KNOW THAT WAS EVEN PLANNED

SO NOW IT IS THEY ARE. >> I'M JUST SUGGESTING THAT IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO USE A VERY GOOD COMMUNICATION.

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>> REALLY PROUD WITH WHAT I SAW COME OUT THERE.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE CHALLENGED.

WE HAVE TO BRING THAT INTO THE CONVERSATION.

IT IS PART OF THE CONVERSATION. LIKE WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO YOU WITH THESE PIECES. CERTAINLY MY EXPECTATION OF THAT COMMUNICATION IS IT HAS TO BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION AS WELL

AS PART OF THE PROCESS. >> HOW CONFIDENT YOU ARE ON THE

51. >> IT DEPENDS HOW LONG PHASE ONE STARTS. IF WE GET CONSENSUS UNCOMFORTABLE I DON'T THINK THAT GIVES US ENOUGH TIME TO HAVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME THEN THAT FIVE WEEKS. WE CAN START OFF QUICKLY I THINK THAT WILL BE CLOSER TO TEN WEEKS BEFORE WE GET REAL CLARITY.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN SAVE TIME SOMEWHERE ELSE.

>> IF YOU DO NOT START YOU WILL NOT GET THROUGH.

>> THAT'S WHAT WE KEEP HEARING AGAIN AND AGAIN.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU I THINK IF WE ENGAGE IN THE RIGHT WAY IT WILL BE EASIER TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

I LOOK AT WHO WAS HERE TONIGHT. SEEING WHAT FOLKS CAN BRING TO THE TABLE. WHY IT IS THE RIGHT THING FOR RIGHT NOW. FOR RIGHT NOW IT IS THE RIGHT THING FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT AND A PRACTICAL

STANDPOINT. >> BUT I DO NOT WANT TO SEE US RUSHING BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE THE TIMELINE.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE TAR WERE ON THE PROPERTY.

SO WE, YOU KNOW, BUILDING UP THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX YOU NOTE

WHATEVER. >> I AM LESS CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROJECT COMPLETION. I THINK WHEN PEOPLE START SEEING

THE HIGHER LEVEL CONFIDENCE. >> THE ONLY OTHER THING WITH MY COLLEAGUES IS ULTIMATELY THAT PEACE OF THE MASTER PLAN.

HAPPILY GIVE. >> EACH ONE OF THESE PROJECTS WE WILL LOOK AT WILL REQUIRE SOME SACRIFICE.

>> EASY TO SEE EXAMPLE. WE ARE WHERE WE ARE.

SOUNDS LIKE WE WILL MOVE FORWARD ON THAT I DID NOT HEAR ANY

COMMUNICATION ON THAT IT ALL. >> TO PASS ON THIS ONE A HIGH PRIORITY OBVIOUSLY. WE HAVE CONSULTANT REPORT ON THIS PROPERTY. WE WILL JUST CONTINUED TO ENGAGE THEM ON THE OTHER PARTS. THAT IS THE TIMELINE AND I HAVE THE CONTRACTS. THE OTHER PIECE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROPERTY THAT WE OWNED THAT IS NOT WITHOUT ITS CHALLENGES. IT IS NOT ALLOWED ANYWHERE IN ARIZONA. BUT THIS IS ALLOWED.

THIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE HAS SF TEN.

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ABOUT TO GO THROUGH A REZONING PROCESS.

IF YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, IT IS BUILT IN. THIS MEANS NOTIFICATION TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, PUBLIC HEARING, ET CETERA.

LIKELY CNDITIONS PLACED ON THE PROPERTY TO PROVIDE AN APPROPRIATE BUFFER TO MAKE THIS AS A MINIMAL -- A MINIMAL AS WE CAN. SO HERE.

>> I CAN SEE IT HERE. >> SO PROBABLY ABOUT 37, 51 MONTHS. PLAN NUMBER 230 MONTHS.

PROBABLY 2-3 MONTHS. THIS IS ONE WHERE WE HAVE A VERY GOOD AND WELL-QUALIFIED ANIMAL SHELTER DESIGN SUBCONTRACTOR WHO CAN JUMP INTO THIS AND ACTUALLY HAS PUT TOGETHER A PRETTY GOOD DESIGN. I THINK A WELL DISCUSSED DESIGN WITH ANIMAL CONTROL THROUGH SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS.

SO WE KNOW WHAT WE WANT AS A COMMUNITY.

THE QUESTION IS WHERE CAN WE PUT IT? AND THEN HOW FAST CAN WE ADAPT THAT DESIGN TO THAT FACILITY AND MOVE FORWARD. AGAIN, WE HAVE HAD A LOOK AT THIS PROPERTY FROM A ACCESS ABILITY TO GET UTILITIES ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF THIS IS A VERY ATTRACTIVE SITE BY ALL OF THOSE METRICS ARE INITIAL ANALYSIS.

THE BIGGEST DRAWBACK ON THIS IS THE ZONING.

AND THAT LIMITATION EXISTS ON EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTY.

I'M AMENABLE TO THIS USE. >> THESE OTHER ANNUAL -- ANIMAL SHELTERS WHEN I WANT TO ASK BEFORE WE GET TOO DEEP INTO IT IS IT POSSIBLE COULD WE TABLE THIS.

ON THIS. >> FOLLOWING DIRECTION OF

COUNCIL. >> SERVICE AND STAFF.

>> HAVING THE PLUS SIDE HERE. >> A QUESTION I WOULD ASK.

>> WHEN IS YOUR NEXT MEETING. >> IF THEY ARE POSITIVE WE CAN MOVE DIRECTLY. IT WILL NOT PUSH ME BACK TOO FAR AT ALL. AND YOU GET THAT PREPARED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL WHICH WILL PROBABLY BE FOUR WEEKS OUT.

I MEAN THE NEXT MEETING AFTER THAT.

SO I CAN MAKE THAT TIMELINE. THE INTEREST IS THAT ANIMAL CONTROL BOARD DOESN'T CREATE ANY SIGNIFICANT OBJECTIONS.

THEN I PUT FORWARD IF THEY WERE A SIGNIFICANT OBJECTIONS THEN THAT WILL COME BACK AND PROBABLY WILL HAVE TO CREATE ADDITIONAL

PROVIDERS. >> EITHER WAY COUNCIL WILL MAKE A DECISION. THEN I WOULD ARGUE I KNOW GETTING THAT ENGAGEMENT. I MEAN WE HAVE TO MAKE A

DECISION EITHER WAY. >> AND IN TRUTH I DO NOT KNOW.

>> THAT IS JUST ME. >> WHAT WE GOT FROM THAT BUILDING WITHOUT INCLUDING DESIGN COST OR BUYING PROPERTY.

SO WE HAVE EIGHT-POINT FOR. IF WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND BUY LAND SOMEPLACE AND GO THROUGH A BROADER DESIGN PROCESS THAT INCREASES THE COST THING. PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT IS WITH

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WE WANT ANOTHER BACK. THAT IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO RESEARCH. IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE.

THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR A SPECIFIC LOCATION.

SO THAT WILL HAVE TO CHANGE BUT THE ELEMENTS.

HOW YOU ARRANGE IT. >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CHIEF

REYNOLDS. >> I AM CURIOUS WITH FIRE% STATION NUMBER 2, THERE HAS BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT LOCATING AN ANIMAL SHELTER NEXT TO A STATION WHERE ENGINES WILL FIRE UP OR THE SIRENS WILL FIRE. DOES THAT ROUTINELY HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY WHEN THEY ARE PULLING OUT OF THE LOT.

PRETTY MUCH IMMEDIATELY THEY ARE ACTIVATING THEIR SIREN'S THE ONE ALL TIMES OF DAY MOSTLY. WE NEED TO HAVE THE SIRENS.

>> JUST TO GET THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND GO.

BASICALLY ASKED RESPONDED. >> TYPICALLY WE WILL SEE THE APPARATUS AND GET DOWN TOWARDS RESIDENTIAL AREAS BEFORE THEY HIT THEIR SIREN'S. BUT THAT IS KIND OF YOU KNOW I KNOW THAT TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT OBJECTIONS POTENTIALLY NEGATIVE IMPACT THAT WOULD HAVE. I RECOGNIZE THE CITY OWNS THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IN WHICH WE HAVE FOUND OURSELVES.

BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN IT IS THAT ITS A REAL CHALLENGE.

I WILL NEVER SAY NEVER BUT THAT IS A TOUGH ASK.

>> I THINK THAT IS A QUESTION THAT WE NEED TO INVESTIGATE.

BUT I AM NOT THE EXPERT TO ANSWER WHETHER THAT IS A REAL CONCERN OR NOT. I KNOW MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE WE PUT SOUND BUFFER RINK AROUND THIS.

THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE SOUND OF THE ANIMALS THEMSELVES.

SO TREES AND RECOMMENDATIONS IN ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE MAKE FOR THE SITE IMPROVEMENTS WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN IN BOTH

DIRECTIONS. >> IF I COULD JUST ADDITIONALLY I MEAN MOST OF THE TIME WE WILL BE HEADED TOWARDS WHICH WILL BE A WEIGHTLESS LOCATION. AND ARE SIRENS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS LOUD BEHIND THE TRUCK THAN THEY ARE IN FRONT OF THE TRUCK.

WE MAKE A FEW RESPONSES GOING. NOT ACTUALLY GOING TO THE ROAD THERE OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOWN THERE.

SO MOST OF OUR NOISE. >> IF I CAN ALSO SAY TALKING.

SO TRAINING AND WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO MITIGATE THAT?

>> THERE IS NO UTILITIES. SO WHAT IS THE COST.

BY THE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT ALWAYS ASKS YOU? BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE SOME OF THAT THAT HAS UTILITIES IN PLACE. THERE IS SOME SPACES THERE.

WHICH IS MOST COST-EFFECTIVE IS WHERE I'M TRYING TO GO WITH

THAT. >> EXISTING SPACE.

>> IS THAT A PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION OR A QUESTION WE CAN

ANSWER? >> IT MAY EXIST.

>> PERHAPS THE DIFFERENCE PERHAPS THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE

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FROM THE TEXAS UTILITY STANDPOINT.

>> NOT LOOKING AT EACH PIECE OF PROPERTY.

MOST PROPERTIES I HAVE SEEN THAT OUR UNDEVELOPED DO NOT HAVE THE

UTILITY. >> LET'S GO DOWN THIS ROAD.

LET'S GET A PULSE OF THE COUNCIL AND DETERMINE WHERE WE ARE WITH THESE TWO PATHS. AND THEN I DO SEE THERE IS VALUE IN TALKING TO THE SHELTER. LET'S SEE WHERE EVERYBODY IS AT FIRST. TALK ABOUT WHICH WAY THEY ARE

LEANING. >> GIVEN THE OPTION KEEP LOOKING AT SITES. WHICH OF THOSE TWO DO YOU

PREFER. >> SHORTFALL OF PROBABLY A

MILLION DOLLARS. >> MOST UNDEVELOPED LAND.

SAME AMOUNT OF ALL MY KNOWLEDGE OF THAT AREA.

>> YOU TALK ABOUT A DELAY. FOUR MORE YEARS POTENTIALLY.

THAT IS A POTENTIAL. >> IF THE CONSENSUS IS WHAT THE ANIMAL FOLKS HAVE LOOKED THAT THAT.

THAT BECOMES QUESTION ONE. SET ASIDE A VISIT.

>> I AM MORE DIRECTED TOWARDS. THIS WILL STILL BE TWO AND A HALF EARS BEFORE WE HAVE TO FINALIZE SOME OF THEM.

FIND SOMETHING ON A MAJOR STREET.

AND THE BUDGET IS NOT THERE. KEEP PUSHING BACK.

THIS 23 BOND PACKAGE. THREE, FOUR, FIVE MORE YEARS.

THE NEED IS THERE. HAVE BEEN IN FAVOR.

WE WANT THE ACTUAL SHELTER. GO AHEAD WITH THAT THING

ONSTREAM. >> I HEARD OPTION NUMBER 2 BUT I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT EXACT SHELTER THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE IT ALL DEPENDS ON FINANCIAL CAPACITY. AND THEY HAVE TO REDESIGN FOR A

DIFFERENT SITE. >> LET ME GO BACK TO THIS.

>> THEY TOOK A VERSION OF THAT EXACT SAME SITE AND THEY PUT IT

ON TO SCALE. >> THIS IS OFF THE SIDE.

>> WILL HAVE TO CHANGE AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE ACCESS POINTS

ET CETERA. >> WHEN WE RESIGNED THIS.

>> ALREADY SIGNIFICANT CONCERN RAISED BY THE ADVOCATES FOR THIS PROJECT. THAT WAS INSUFFICIENT.

AND WE HAD TO DEMONSTRATE REALLY TO GET ACCEPTABILITY OF THIS FACILITY SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVED OPERATIONAL EFFECTIVENESS AND THE HEALTH OF THE ANIMALS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ONE OF THE ADVOCATES SAID WAS A LOOK, YOU CAN NEVER BUILD AN ANIMAL

[03:15:01]

>> TODAY'S CONVERSATION IS MORE ABOUT THE SITE.

>> IF WE DO NOT AFFORD THIS. >> WE WILL HAVE A CHALLENGE.

THIS IS REALLY KIND OF THE MINIMUM IMPROVEMENT THAT THE COMMUNITY WILL FEEL IS APPROPRIATE.

>> THIS WILL HAVE TO BE CHANGED. IT SHOULD NOT AUTOMATICALLY CHANGE THE COST. AND THE ELEMENTS.

WHETHER THE FRONT DOOR IS OVER HERE OR THE FRONT DOOR IS OVER THERE THAT APPEARS THE SAME. THE SITE IS NOT NECESSARILY DRAGGING THE COSTS. DOESN'T HAVE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DEMOLISHED. THOSE ARE THE THINGS WHICH COULD MAKE A DIFFERENT SITE YOU KNOW IT MORE PROBLEMATIC TO DEVELOP.

A PRETTY GOOD SITE TO DEVELOP ON.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. >> I AM TRYING TO DISTILL THIS DOWN TO AN EASIER QUESTION WHICH IS OPTION ONE IS MORE DRAWN OUT BECAUSE THERE IS THE REAL ESTATE SITE EXCEPTION.

MORE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE LIKELY TO BE PROPERTY ACQUISITION AND OTHER FACTORS. AND THE SECOND WILL PROBABLY BOTH OF THOSE THINGS LEAD TO ULTIMATELY A SMALLER SHELTER

MOST LIKELY. >> A MORE EXPENSIVE SHELTER.

>> OKAY. >> OPTION NUMBER 2 HERE IS FASTER. AND RESULTS IN A MORE

COST-EFFECTIVE SHELTER. >> TO MAKE IT SIMPLE THIS IS

YOUR FASTEST COST ALTERNATIVE. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT THE PUBLIC LIKES WITH THE SHELTER OR NOT TO ME THAT IT'S IRRELEVANT. ONE OF THESE GETS US IN FASTER AND CHEAPER ONE OF THESE GETS US THERE LONGER AND MORE EXPENSIVE BUT WE GET TO PICK WHERE IT GOES.

OUT OF THOSE TWO OPTIONS WHICH DO YOU GUYS PREFER.

WE HAVE TO MAKE A CHOICE. DO NOT MISS HEAR ME BUT WE HAVE TO SETTLE TODAY AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING, WHAT DO YOU THINK? SO OPTION NUMBER 2 FASTER AND

MORE ACROSS THE BOARD. >> I AM WEIGHING IN KNOWING THAT WE HAVE THE RULE OUT. AND AND ALSO THINKING ABOUT WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS SAID BUT REALLY DRIVES ME THERE IS GOING TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND SEEING THE CONDITION THAT WE'RE IN.

THE DEEP -- THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

EVERYBODY IS HAPPY WITH THE ELEMENTS.

>> CORRECT. VERY DIFFICULT.

THE QUICKEST AND MOST INEXPENSIVE RATE NOTHING CHANGES FOR THE ANIMALS EXCEPT THEY GET A BETTER PLACE.

>> THAT IS WHAT I START THINKING ABOUT.

THE AMOUNT OF SIRENS GOING UP AND DOWN.

SO THEY CAN SIT IN CHALLENGE I THINK WE SHOULD ASK THAT.

>> THEY DID NOT MENTION THIS. >> HEADPHONES.

>> IS THE THE TRINITY LOCATION DOES THE SITE ALLOW FOR

EXPANSION. >> THE OTHER POTENTIAL BENEFIT

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PUBLIC WORKS HAS AN INTEREST AND POLICE AND FIRE HAVE AN INTEREST IN ADDITIONAL STORAGE. SO POTENTIAL FOR US TO USE THAT BACKSPACE ALSO FOR ADDITIONAL STORAGE.

PROVIDES A BUFFER BETWEEN THIS ACTIVE USE AND NEIGHBORS.

>> OBVIOUSLY WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SHOW FOR THIS.

BUT THE LOCATION DOWN THE ROAD. >> YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH IT IS

TAKE IT GOT. >> I DID HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE NOISE TO THE ANIMALS. DOGS HAVE SENSITIVE HEARING.

THE SIRENS SO I WILL GO WITH OPTION NUMBER 2.

>> I AGREE WITH BASICALLY EVERYTHING YOU SAID.

>> MY FIRST QUESTION WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS.

>> I WILL SAY QUICKLY. I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT

THIS IS SITTING ON. >> THERE IS NOISE.

>> THE OTHER THING IS THE SHOULD BE AN ESTIMATION POINT.

IF WE ARE PUTTING THIS IN THE AREA WHERE THIS WOULD BE THE PREMIER THING I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF SYNERGY THERE.

>> IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT IT IS OUT OF PLACE JUST BECAUSE THE SIZE OF. AND I KNOW THAT THE POLICE HAVE HAD YOU KNOW OPERATIONS AND A TRAINING FACILITY BEHIND.

BUT YOU KNOW WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BUILD THAT SO I DO NOT KNOW.

I THINK I MIGHT BE THE ODD ONE OUT.

>> I AM HAVING DIFFICULTY BECAUSE I ALWAYS BASE THINGS ON COST. AND I HAVE AN UNDETERMINED COST.

AND WE DO NOT KNOW WHERE THE ALTERED SITE IS WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT COSTS IN TERMS OF UTILITY SERVICE.

SO SORT OF LIKE AN ALGEBRAIC PROBLEM AND I'M HAVING TROUBLE GETTING OVER THE HURDLE OF SAYING THIS IS THE BEST COST.

THOSE OF THE TWO HOMES FOR ME TO GET OVER.

NONETHELESS IF I HAD TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT FASTER, BETTER, MORE COST-EFFECTIVE THAN I WILL GO WITH OPTION.

BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN SO FOR THAT.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. YOU WERE LOOKING AT BETWEEN THE TWO TIMELINES ONE STARTS CONSTRUCTION IN MONTH 22 TO 23.

>> JUST AND THAT ALONE YOU ARE TALKING WITH INFLATION WHAT, 3-5%. COURSE OF THAT ONE YEAR TWO OR MAYBE CONSERVATIVE SOMEWHERE IN THERE.

I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT AS WELL IN YOUR EQUATION I DO ALSO STRUGGLE WITH WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT IT BEING THE RIGHT SPOT.

IF WE WERE TO GO DOWN THIS ROAD AND I'M NOT SAYING WE ARE GOING TO BASED ON THIS COMMENT PERIOD. WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE THE VERY CONSCIOUS DECISION THAT WE ARE NOT HAVING THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATE IN THIS DISCUSSION. THAT IS WHAT GOT US INTO THE ISSUE AT HERFURTH PARK. NOT THINK IT IS THE RIGHT ANSWER OR THE WRONG ANSWER JUST THINK WE HAVE TO BE AWARE THAT WE ARE CONSCIOUS OF TAKING THAT STEP IF WE WILL TAKE THAT STEP.

THAT SAID IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE LEANING TOWARDS OPTION.

IF THEY COME BACK AND SAY THAT SOUNDS GREAT LET'S GET IT GOING.

THAT IS PROBABLY OUR CUE TO MOVE.

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I KNOW THAT PUSHES THINGS. >> I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT T

THAT. >> IS THERE A POSSIBILITY.

>> OH ITS A POSSIBILITY WE ARE WAS ASKED THAT QUESTION.

>> AN ISSUE MAYBE WE WILL BUILD. JUST SOMETHING ELSE WE HAVE BEEN

THE POCKET. >> IF WE ARE LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY IT WILL BE THAT PROPERTY ZONE.

>> I CAN NEVER SAY SOMETHING IS NOT POSSIBLE GO BACK TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

>> THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP AGAIN.

>> WE PRIORITIZE GETTING TO THAT PUBLIC HEARING.

>> YOU NEED A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE YOU CALL ALL THE SHOTS.

>> WE WILL DO THE TEXT AMENDMENT WITH THE CHANGE TO LOOK AT.

45 DAYS GIVE OR TAKE THE LOCATION.

>> WHILE I AM WORKING ON NEGOTIATING CONTRACTS, THIS TEAM CAN WORK ON MOVING THE SEP PROCESS FORWARD.

THAT MEANS WE'RE GOING TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND GOING TO THE COUNCIL. THAT MEANS WE ARE NOTICING ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE AREA. IF THERE ARE CONCERNS AND THOSE AREA WHERE CONCERNS ELSEWHERE IN THE COMMUNITY THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO COME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE WE GO TO FAR DOWN THIS ROAD TO HAVE THEIR SAY.

AND IF THEY SAY THIS DOES NOT WORK FOR US AND COUNCIL AGREE TO IT DOES NOT WORK FOR YOU AND THEM THEN WE GO TO PLANET NUMBET PROCESS. LUCKILY WE HAVE NOT LOST THAT

MUCH TIME. >> BASED ON THE CONVERSATION WE HAVE HAD DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE SOME SEMBLANCE OF DIRECTION

TAKEN AWAY FROM THIS? >> I'M GOING TO DO THREE THINGS.

I'M GOING TO GO TO THE ANIMAL CONTROL BOARD THIS WEEK.

THESE GUYS ARE'S GOING TO START WORKING ON THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT SEP PROCESS AND I WILL START NEGOTIATING WITH MY FRIENDS THE CONTRACT. AND WORK ON ALL THOSE THINGS THAT ONCE AND GET BACK TO COUNCIL WITH MORE INFORMATION.

>> SHOULD THE ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD RAISE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS WHAT HAPPENS. EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE UNCLEAR WHAT THAT ORIENTATION. OKAY.

ONTO PUBLIC SAFETY/CITY HALL. >> THIS IS BASICALLY AN UPDATE WITH ONE QUESTION WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE STILL WORKING ON.

A TIER ONE SITE EVALUATION. NEXT STEP OF THAT PROCESS IS A COUNCIL REVIEW AND THEN OF COURSE A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS ON PUBLIC SITES. I ALSO WANT TO BRING IN A COMMERCIAL CONSULTANT. WE HAVE ONE FROM A COMPANY CALLED CORE AND ANOTHER BLACKWOOD.

THEY ARE DIFFERENT AND BASICALLY I AM LOOKING FOR COUNCIL RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO WHICH WENT TO GO WITH.

BLACK LAND USE QUITE A BIT. THEY ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON THE PROCESS. THEY ARE THE ONES WHO HELP US ACQUIRE CLIPS. AND WRITE A WEIGHT WHEN THEY ARE SINK A STREET OR DRINK AND INTERSECTION SOMETHING LIKE THAT CORE FOCUSES ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THEY FOCUS ON SITE SELECTION. FOR LARGE AND MUNICIPAL PROJECTS. THAT IS MORE OF THEIR FOCUS.

BOTH OF THESE, ODDLY ENOUGH, HALF THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP EITHER PAST OR CURRENT WITH CATALYST WHICH IS THE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY THAT ACTUALLY WAS A PART OF THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE VILLAGE.

COURT IS THE PROPERTY ACQUISITION PORTION OF THAT ONE.

THAT GAVE THEM THE PRINCIPAL OF LACKLAND WHO USED TO WORK FOR CATALYST. THEY BOTH HAVE THAT SORT OF

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CORE HAS MORE SPECIFIC EXPERIENCE FOR SITE SELECTION OF THIS KIND. POLICE FACILITY, PUBLIC ACQUISITION. THEY HAVE DONE A NUMBER OF THOSE PROJECTS. AGAIN, BLACKLAND TEST ON SOME OF THAT ON A SMALLER SCALE. BUT THEIR FOCUS IS MORE ON EASEMENTS AND ACQUISITIONS RIGHT AWAY.

THESE GUYS ARE VERY GOOD AT PROCESS.

THEY REALLY LOOK TO THEIR CLIENTS TO GIVE THEM THE DIRECTION OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE ACQUIRED.

WERE ASKED WE HAVE MORE OF A BROKER APPROACH.

DOING THAT SORT OF VERIFICATION. ALSO MORE EFFECTIVE AT TRYING TO NEGOTIATE WHAT WE HAVE WOULD BE MY BELIEF.

THEY ALSO CAN MOVE A LITTLE BIT QUICKER BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM THE PROCESS. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO KIND OF CONTRASTS BETWEEN THE ROOM. THEY TAKE THAT APPROACH CORE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE FOCUSED ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO GO WITH CORE BECAUSE THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE FOCUSED ON THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT WHICH IS TRYING TO EVALUATE THE PROPERTIES TRYING TO EVALUATE THEM IN A WAY THAT AFFECTS THE PRICING.

AND THEN NEGOTIATES ON OUR BEHALF.

WE CAN GET THEM ENGAGED FAIRLY QUICKLY AND THEN GET THEM CAUGHT UP WITH THE PROCESS WITH THE SITE SELECTION.

AND REDUCE ANY KIND OF DELAY THAT IT COULD BE CAUSED BY SO THAT WAS KIND OF MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT.

OUR COMFORT LEVEL WITH THAT SECTION.

>> THOUGHTS ON BETWEEN THESE TWO SITE SELECTION FIRMS.

>> I WILL TAKE. I WAS NOT FAMILIAR WITH EITHER

FIRM. >> I DID LOOK UP BIO ADJACENT.

AND MICHAEL IS A PHD. I DO NOT SEE A BROKER LICENSE.

SO FOR THAT REASON ALONE I WOULD CHOOSE CORE BECAUSE THEY WOULD NEGOTIATE ON OUR BEHALF. I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST THAT WE ASK FOR A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON THE PROPERTIES THAT EACH REPRESENT CURRENTLY AROUND THE PAST.

AND THEN TO THE POINT TO POINT OUT THE AGREEMENT WHERE WE DO NOT PAY ANYTHING AND THEN A PORTION OF THE SALE JUST LIKE YOU KNOW SO THIS IS NO COST TO US.

I STRONGLY BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE A BROKER IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR NEGOTIATIONS. SO I WOULD SUPPORT A NEW

RECOMMENDATION TO GO FORWARD. >> COULD YOU HAVE A SEPARATE CONVERSATION OUTSIDE THAT -- THIS MEETING TO GET A SENSE FOR WHAT THAT STRUCTURE WILL LOOK LIKE.

I CANNOT DISAGREE WITH YOU. THE FACT THAT YOU ARE ALIGNED WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS GOOD ENOUGH.

>> OTHER THOUGHTS BETWEEN THE TWO.

I DO LIKE THE MORE. >> FASTER.

>> FASTER. [LAUGHTER]

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. I DO A GREAT WITH THE COUNCILMEMBER WHAT HE IS SAYING. BUT I THINK YOU STICK A TERM FROM CONCILMAN GIBBS CORE LOOKS AT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF LAND. GIVING THE OPTION TO PRODUCE FOR THE CITY MORE SO THEN GETTING LAND WE CAN USE IN THE RESEARCH.

>> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN. LIKE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM.

I THINK WE WILL ALSO HAVE THE REVIEW OF THE STAFF UPDATE.

AND CERTAINLY WHEN WE DO THAT IT IS PART OF THE CHALLENGE IS THAT WE LOOK FOR A SITE. A LOT OF THINGS ARE ATTRACTED TO US. THE SAME THINGS ARE ATTRACTIVE TO POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. LET US PART OF THE CHALLENGE.

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>> THERE IS A TERM IN APPRAISAL HIGHEST AND BEST USE.

YOU DO NOT WANT TO GIVE AWAY THE CORNER OF MAIN AND FIRST WHICH WILL NOT BE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY.

SO WE HAVE TO LOOK THROUGH THAT LENS AND WE WILL GET DIRECTION.

OR STAFF WILL GIVE DIRECTION TO THE BROKER.

THAT IS A PREMIER LOCATION. >> YOU BUILD UP THE POLICE DEPARTMENT YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF THE OTHER COMMERCIALS.

>> 100%. AND DEVELOPMENT IN MANY CASES.

>> ANY OBJECTION TO GOING WITH CORE? HEARING CANNOT I THINK YOU HAVE YOUR DIRECTION.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS TOPIC OR ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL ON ANY MAJOR PROJECTS WE ARE WORKING ON.

[3.D. Discussion regarding Downtown, Downtown Pavilion, and DART.]

DISCUSSION OF DOWNTOWN, DOWNTOWN PAVILION.

>> BEFORE WE DO THAT COUNCIL I WILL DEPART THE MEETING.

HE HAS BEEN UP REALLY EARLY THIS MORNING SO KEEP THEM AWAKE.

AT A COUPLE OF COFFEE WHATEVER YOU WANT WHATEVER IT TAKES.

THANK YOU GUYS I AM HEADING OUT. I WILL NOT BE AT TOMORROW'S MEETING FULL DISCLOSURE. MAYOR PRO TEM IS PREPARED TO LEAD THE MEETING. SO I HAVE FULL FAITH AND

CONFIDENCE IN HIM TO DO SO. >> GOOD LUCK.

[LAUGHTER] >> WAIT TILL TOMORROW.

>> THANK YOU, EVERYBODY. >> OTHER IDEAS? THIS IS REALLY MY RECOMMENDATION IS BASED ON MORE THAN JUST THE PAVILION. PREDOMINANTLY BECAUSE OF THE TIMING CONSTRAINT. WE HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH START AND THEY HAVE AGREED TO GIVE US MORE FLEXIBILITY.

SO WE HAVE A LUXURY OF TIME. WORKING TO CONTINUE TO BUILD A CONSENSUS. THIS IS THE IDEA THAT WAS THROWN OUT THERE. I MEAN COME ON IT IS BEAUTIFUL.

>> A PARTICULAR RESPONSES 868 YOU NOTE DETAILED WRITTEN COMMENTS. I MEMORIZED EVERY ONE OF THEM.

VERY STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A PAVILION.

78% REALLY LIKE THAT IDEA 50 2% STRONGLY.

NOT A LOT OF LOVE FOR THE FOR THE PICTURE.

NOT A LOT OF LOVE FOR THE DESIGN.

THESE ARE THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE.

WITH COMMUNITY EVENTS. SEEING PICKLEBALL.

BUT THEY REALLY WANTED TO HAVE IT SOMETHING THAT IS ACTIVATED ON A PRETTY CONSISTENT BASIS. SO ACTED GONNA PRE-EXISTING BASIS NUMBER 1 AND NUMBER 2 ARE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.

ONE, TWO, THREE ARE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.

PROBABLY WE HAVE TO GET ALL THE WAY DOWN TO NUMBER 4 IN ORDER TO TRULY ACTIVATE ARE PRETTYÚCONSI. CERTAINLY WE WANT TO HAVE A FACILITY THAT IS SUPPORTIVE OF THESE ACTIVITIES.

I DID NOT LIKE THIS SORT OF MENTAL HAY BARN LOOK.

HAD A SORT OF ATTRACTIVENESS TO. NOT TALK ABOUT WANTING TO HAVE AGAIN SOME ADDITIONAL AMENITIES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

REALLY INTERESTED AND HAVING OF COURSE AFTER AS WELL AND IF YOU DO HAVE SOME WE WANT TO TAKE THE APPROACH TO HOW YOU USE THOSE COURTS SOME STRUCTURED PLACE SOME OPEN.

REALLY THIS IS KIND OF JUST ONE PIECE OF DOWNTOWN PART.

AN IMPORTANT PIECE BUT NOT SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS REALLY ABOUT LOOKING ABOUT HOW WE INCLUDE THIS.

IMPLEMENTING THE DOWNTOWN ZONE. NOW WE HAVE A BIT MORE TIME.

MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO MOVE TO A MASTER DESIGN TEAM.

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PLUS IT GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO GREATER COHESION.

RIGHT NOW IF WE WANT TO GO OUT HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN ENGINEERING APPROACH TO HIRE AN ENGINEER BRING THAT ENGINEER ON.

AND THEN WE GO AND WE DO ANOTHER HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER SELECTION PROCESS A LOT OF INEFFICIENCY IN THOSE STEPS WERE AS IF WE CAN BRING IT ALL THE DIFFERENT IDEAS WE WANT TO INCLUDE IN THE DOWNTOWN PLAN WE CAN MOVE MORE EFFICIENTLY.

DEEPER CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMUNITY.

LOOK AT ALMOST 856 COMMENTS AND TRIED TO MAKE SENSE OF THEM.

WHICH I LIKE. SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS AN ISSUE OF STATEMENT QUALIFICATION PROCESS THE PROCESS REQUIRED BY HIRING ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS. BASICALLY CHALLENGE THEM WITH BRINGING A SKILL SET THAT ALLOWS THEM TO IMPLEMENT ALL THE DIFFERENT DIVERSE ELEMENTS OF THE DOWNTOWN A PLANNED.

FROM TRAILS TO WAY FINDING TO A PAVILION.

AND THEN WE GET THEM ON BOARD TO GET THEM ENGAGED WITH THE COMMUNITY AND GET A CONSENSUS ON EACH ELEMENT IN TERM.

THAT IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. >> WANT TO CLARIFY.

>> THEY DID NOT GIVE US AN END DATE.

>> THIS IS TWO DIFFERENT PARTS HERE.

THE FILE A GRANT. THE GMP WHICH IS THE OTHER QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS DOES HAVE SPECIFIC OBLIGATIONS TO MAKE PROGRESS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS ON HAS A DEADLINE FOR EXTENDED GET ADDS IN 2028. 2028.

>> IT BECOMES A QUESTION. ARE W GOING TO GET ANY OF THOSE IN 2028? 5% WORKS.

CONNECTING POINT TO THE 4.2 MILLION UP FRONT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG. THAT IS THE BIG QUESTION.

THE TIMELINE THAT GETS BACK. MATCHES UP TO THE TIMELINES.

2026. TRIGGERS HERE.

THE DOWNTOWN ADVISORY BOARD. OR FORMING AN ADVISORY IN THIS PIECE HERE. WE HAVE A YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS TO GET THIS WHERE WE HAVE THEY START.

USING STAGE 1 OF 4.5 MILLION IS THAT GOING TO BE ENOUGH TIME TO GET THIS FIRST COMPONENT BOAT. DO WE EVEN KNOW IT YET TODAY WHAT THOSE ARE YOU KNOW HAVING THAT MONEY TO US.

THOSE ARE THE DESIGNS, RATE. >> THE WHOLE THING PHASE IT OUT

BASED ON THOSE PIECES. >> NOT THE TERM PHASE BUT.

>> PLEASE JUMP IN. >> REMEMBERED WE PRESENT SCOPE OF WORK WITH THE GMP FUNDING. WHAT WE WILL DO IS BUNDLE IT TOGETHER. WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO A SM Q TO BUILD IN THE PAVILION COMPONENTS.

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WE IDENTIFY FACE ONE WITH THE DATES.

BUT THOSE WOULD BE INCORPORATED AND THEN WE WOULD INTEGRATE THE PAVILION INTO THAT. SO IT WORK WOULD ALLOW US THAN TO MOVE TO THE NEXT PHASES WHICH WILL BE PLANNED OUT WITH THE

MILESTONE. >> THANK YOU.

THE NEXT QUESTION APPEARS IN THE TIMELINE DEVELOPMENT.

MAYBE BROUGHT IN PRIOR TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ADVISORY

BOARD OR WOULD IT BE AFTER? >> AS YOU DO PROCESS MINIMUM IS 6-8 WEEKS. SO THE PROCESS TO HIRE AN ARCHITECT SO BASED ON THEIR TIMELINE WOULD EXPECT YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT AND BRING THAT FORWARD BECAUSE OF THE PROCESS.

WILL HAVE STAFF EVALUATION OF APPLICANTS.

THE WAY THIS HAS TO WORK. BUT WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT PRICE FOR THESE PEOPLE. SO WE WILL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF WHO IS THE BEST QUALIFIED TO DO ALL OF THESE THINGS. THEY CAN DO TRAIL AND THEY CAN DO WAY FINDING AND THEY CAN DO PAVILION.

THEY UNDERSTAND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN DOWNTOWN.

HE IS GOING TO BE LEADING THIS FOR US.

AND THEN WE WILL BRING THOSE TO YOU.

MAY HAVE THEM DO A LITTLE PRESENTATION OF SOME KIND.

WE WILL GO AWAY AND TRY TO NEGOTIATE THE PRICE.

IF THEIR PRICES LIKE MAYBE IT WE TO CANDIDATE NUMBER 2.

HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. >> JUST WANT TO ENSURE THERE IS

PROPER INTEGRATION DISCUSSION. >> BRING THEIR SIN SO JUST TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE PART OF THAT DISCUSSION.

>> ABSOLUTELY IT WILL BE THERE JOB TO TRY TO DRIVE A CONSENSUS.

>> THAT WILL BE ONE OF OUR FIRST TASKS.

>> WELCOME TO THE BOARD. >> THE DEADLINE TO APPLY FOR THE

BOARD. >> THE DEADLINE TO APPLY FOR THE

BOARD IS TOMORROW. >> IT IS PRETTY QUICK.

>> THOSE LISTED IN THE TIMELINES, TOMORROW AS THEY CUT

OFF FOR THAT SELECTION. >> SO WE WILL CHOOSE THAT TIME

OF DAY. >> ESTABLISH THAT BEFORE WE WERE ABLE TO GET TO THE SOQ PROCESS. JUST THE WAY THE PROCESSES

REQUIRED. >> SEEMS LIKE A SMART THING TO

DO RIGHT THERE. >> GET THE BIG PICTURE IN PLACE.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL BE ABLE TO DO ANY BETTER THAN THIS.

[LAUGHTER] >> IS YOUR PRESENTATION.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS, CONCERNS. SO WE WILL MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION I HAVE HEARD ONE VOICE IN FAVOR.

>> I THINK IT'S OUR AGENDA ITEM. >> CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS FOR

[4. Discuss Consent Agenda Items for August 18, 2026, City Council Meeting]

>> IF THERE IS NOTHING

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