[00:00:02] GOOD EVENING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. WELCOME TO THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION MEETING FOR TUESDAY, JANUARY 28, 2020. FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA [CALL TO ORDER] CITIZEN INPUT. AND IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON ANY SUBJECT, IF YOU WOULD RAISE YOUR HAND. IF YOU ARE WAITING FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING PROBABLY BETTER YOU WAIT. I HAVE TWO SPEAKER REQUEST H HERE. BUT IF YOU HAVE A GENERAL ISSUE OF SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, I WILL ALLOW YOU THREE MINUTES. RAISE YOUR HAND I'LL RECOGNIZE YOU. SEEING NOT I'LL CLOSE THE CITIZEN INPUT SECTION AT THIS TIME. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CONSENT AGENDA. WE ONLY HAVE [CONSENT AGENDA] ONE ITEM ON THE CONSENT AAG AAGENDA. CONSIDER THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF JANUARY 14, 2020. COMMISSIONERS EVERYBODY GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES? ANY ISSUES WITH THE MINUTES? ANY MONEY OR COMPLAINT? NO. I'M READY FOR A MOTION. YES, SIR. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APROVE THE MINUTES FROM MR. COAT. SECOND FROM MISSES INVES INVESTIGATES. AND DID DO WE NEED TO PUSH THE BUTTON TO DO THAT. OR THE MOTIONS, TOO? ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE TO DO THIS. I HAVE TO PUT THE VOTE LINK BUTTON HERE. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME LADIES AND GENTLEMEN THAT CHAIRMAN HAS HAD TO PRESS THESE BUTTON SO GOOD LUCK. AND THAT ITEM CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL [3A. Conduct a public hearing and make a recommendation to City Council for a request by Jim Douglas to rezone the subject property from Form-Based Commercial Center (FB-CC) District to Planned Development (PD) District for Single Family Residential (SF-10) Uses to develop the site with 166 single family homes. The 58.83-acre site is located on the south side of Liberty Grove Road and approximately 1,037 feet east of President George Bush Turnpike (PGBT) Frontage Road, in the City of Rowlett, Dallas County, Texas.] CONSIDERATION. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR REQUEST BY JIM DOVE TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM 4 BASE COMMERCIAL CENTER DISTRICT MAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR TWO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SF 10. USE TO DEVELOP THE SITE WITH 166 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THE 58.83 ACRE SITE IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF LIBERTY GROVE ROAD. APPROXIMATELY 10 37 FEET EAST OF THE JORDAN BUSH TURNPIKE FRONTAGE ROAD IN THE CITY DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS. >> YES M CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONERS THANK YOU. AS YOU MENTIONED THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU IS TO CONSIDER REZONING FOR A COMMERCIAL CENTER PROPERTY OR THE COMMERCIAL CENTER DISTRICT TWO SINGLE FAMILY TO P E 4 SINGLE FAMILY SF 10 USE AND APPROVAL OF CONCEPT PLAN TO DEVELOP 166 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. JUST SOME DATA TO LOCATE YOU AROUND THE SITE. YOU CAN SEE HERE KIND OF ON THE NORTH END PART OF THIS IMAGE BEFORE YOU THAT'S LIBERTY GROVE ROAD. THE SITE IS LOCATED ON SOUTH SIDE OF LIBERTY GROVE APPROXIMATELY 1,000 FEET EAST OF THE PUSH TURNPIKE FRONTAGE ROAD. TWO EXISTING ACCESSORY STRUCTURES LOCATED CURRENTLY ON THE SITE JUST ADJACENT TO LIBERTY GROVE ROAD. SITE IS ENCUMBERED WITH APPROXIMATELY POINT 44 ACRE OF FLOOD PLAIN TRAVERSING ESSENTIALLY ALL SIDES OF THE PROPERTY EXCEPT FOR ALONG THE REGROWTH TO THE EAST, SOUTH AND WEST IT'S ALL BOUNDED BY FLOOD PLAIN. THIS IS A MATURE TREE CANOPY THAT IS LOCATED KIND OF ON THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE AND THEN THERE'S OTHER SMALLER TREE STANDS DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE SITE. ANALYSIS AND LOOKED AT THE SURROUNDING LAND USE AND THE SURROUNDING ZONING TO THE NORTH THIS IS PART OF THE LARGER LONG SHORE DISTRICT AND YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL CENTER TO THE NORTH WITH CURRENTLY WHAT IS DEVELOPED THERE IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WHICH IS HELLLY NON-CONFORMING. TO THE EAST YOU HAVE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FLOOD PLAIN WITH MUDDY CREEK RESERVOIR. TAKE LINE FLOOD LANE, LAKE GRAY HUBBARD AND TO THE WEST DIRECT WEST YOU HAVE MORE COMMERCIAL CENTER DISTRICT AND YOU ALSO HAVE SINGLE FAMILY USE TO THE SOUTH BEYOND THE TAKE LINE A AREA. IMMEDIATE ADJACENT INCLUDE SF RESIDENTIAL HOUSING ON LARGER LOTS THAN PRE-THE DISTRICT ZONINGS. THOSE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES ARE MORE RURAL IN NATURE. CONSIDERED LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING WHILE THE SURROUNDING LAND USE ARE CURRENTLY RURAL IN NATURE. SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IS PROHIBITED WITHIN THE F P CC DISTRICT WHICH IS THE CURRENT ZONING ON THE PROPERTY. WITH REGARDS TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WE LOOKED AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND DID LAND USE ANALYSIS THE PLAN DESIGNATES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR EMPLOYMENT CENTER DEVELOPMENT THAT'S THE BLUE INDICATION. WHICH IS INTENDED FOR LARGE SCALE OFFICE PARK OR CORPORATE CAMPUS TO SERVE AS CITY MAJOR [00:05:03] EMPLOYMENT HUB. L ALLOWED BUILDING TYPES WITHIN THAT FORM BASE COMMERCIAL CENTER DISTRICT ARE COMMERCIAL, FLEX EMPLOYMENT, MIXED USE, SHOP FRONT AND MIXED RESIDENTIAL UNDER THE CURRENT FORM BASE CODE DESIGNATION. THIS IS TO DIVERSIFY AND STRENGTHEN THE ECONOMY. ON PROPOSED REZONING DECREASE THE AVAILABLE ACREAGE DESIGNATED FOR COMMERCIAL USE AND FUTURE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY. PROPOSED WOULD INCREASE THE ALREADY DOMINATING PERCENTAGE OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS IN THE NORTH SHORE AREA. WHEN WE LACKED AT THE PD, SEVERAL THINGS TO HIGHLIGHT. SEVERAL REQUEST THAT ARE ACCOMPANIED WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE REAL QUICKLY. MAXIMUM DENSITY AND THE COMPARISON WOULD BE FROM TYPICAL SF 10 TO WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED PAUSE THAT'S THE BASE ZONING SO THE MAXIMUM DENSITY AND SF 10 THE REQUIRED IS 4.4 UNITS PER ACRE AND PROPOSING 2.82 UNITS PER ACRE. THE PROPOSED MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE GOING FROM 45 PERCENT TO 75 PERCENT. MINIMUM SITE SET BACK GREATER THAN 10% OF LOT WIDTH OR 7 AND A HALF FEET. PROPOSED IS 5 FEET ON THE INTERIOR AND 10 FEET FROM THE STREET. WITH MINIMUM REAR SET BACK THE REQUIRED IS LESSER OF 20 FEET OR 20 PERCENT LOT DEPTH. THE PROPOSAL IS 10 FEET. RIGHT-OF-WAY THE REQUIRED IS 60 FEET AND THE PROPOSED IS 50 FEET ON INTERNAL STREET WITH 31 FEET OF PAVEMENT. AS FAR AS ALLEY AND GARAGES THE CODE IN SF 10 CURRENTLY REQUIRES ALL PRODUCT TO BEALLY SERVED REAR ENTRY AND BEING PROPOSED IS 30 PERCENT L OR JAY HOOK AND 80 PERCENT STRAIGHT FRONTAGE. HERE YOU WILL SEAL CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE SITE. BASICALLY SUBDIVIDED AGAIN BY THE SF 10 LOT WITH THE ALTERNATE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. YOU CAN SEE 2 ROAD. ACCESS PART TO LIBERTY GROVE ROAD ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE AND THEN STREETS TRAVERSE THE SITE AND GIVE ACCESS TO THE SITE. ATTACHED HERE IS LANDSCAPE PLAN. YOU CAN SEE THE GREEN AREAS. THERE IS A GREEN BELT. TRAIL SYSTEM THAT CIRCUMVENTS THE ENTIRE SITE WITH OPEN SPACE AREAS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED THOUGHT. THE TRAIL IS 6 FOOT HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL CONCRETE AND WE HAVE THOSE SECTIONS AS PART OF THE PACKET AS WELL. AS WELL AS AN ENTRY SCREENING WALL THAT WOULD CONFORM TO THE SF 10 REQUIREMENTS. WE HOOKED AT DID OUR ANALYSIS WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE PARK AND TRAIL MASTER PLAN RECENTLY ADOPTED AND PARK TRAIL MASTER PLAN IDENTIFY THIS AREA AS MUDDY CREEK TRAIL. YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE THE YELLOW DASHED LINE IS THE TRAIL NETWORK OF THE PROPOSED TRAIL THAT TRAIL IS TO BE IS CALLED OUT TO BE BETWEEN 10 AND 12 FEET WITH THE SURFACE OF BOTH CONCRETE AND SOFT SURFACE NATURE TRAIL. THE 6 FOOT TRAIL THAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS HALF THE WIDTH OF WHAT IS CURRENTLY CALLED FOR IN THE PARK AND TRAIL MASTER PLAN. WE LOOKED AT THE ROADWAY NETWORK IN REGARDS TO INFRASTRUCTURE ACCESS INDEGREES AND EGRESS CAN BE ACHIEVED BY THE LIBERTY GROVE ROAD BUT HOWEVER THAT ROAD IS ASPHALT 2 LANE UNDIVIDED THOROUGHFARE AND NOT BUILT TO THE ULTIMATE CONDITION AS SPECIFIED IN THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN. 2015 THOROUGHFARE PLAN CLA CLASSIFIES LIBERTY GROVE AS A 90 FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY. IT'S 4 LANE DIVIDED ROAD. IMPROVEMENT WILL NEED TO BE MADE TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE FROM ASPHALT TO CONCRETE WITH CURB, GUTTER TO ENGINEERED BASIN SUB GRADE TO INCLUDE TWO PARALLEL PARKING LANES, TWO TRAVEL LANES AND CENTER TURN LANE. TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WILL BE REQUIRED AT THE TIME OF DEVELOPMENT PLAN SUBMITTAL TO DETERMINE AND ADDRESS ANY FURTHER TRAFFIC ISSUES OR CONCERNS AS THEY, KIND OF TYPICAL OF OUR PROCESS. AGAIN, AS MENTIONED WHEN IT COMES TO VEGETATION THE SITE IS ENCUMBERED BY A NUMBER OF TREES THAT WILL HAVE TO BE DISTURBED FOR DEVELOPMENT TO TAKE PLACE TREE SURVEY MITIGATION PLANNING WOULD BE REQUIRED AT THE TIME OF DEVELOPMENT. AS WELL AS DRAMA ON YOUR BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN THERE IS IMAGE SHOWING THE FLOOD PLAIN AND PINK AND GREEN AND IN ORDER FOR THIS SITE TO BE DEVELOPED THERE WOULD BE SOME RECLAMATION OF THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE. PRETTY CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE BUT THERE ARE AREAS WHERE THE FLOOD PLAIN DOES INTRUDE ON THE PROPERTY AND HAVE TO RECLAIM SMALL PORTION OF THAT IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY. WITH THAT A PRELIMINARY ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WOULD [00:10:03] BE REQUIRED AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT LOCAL SPECIES AND OFF AND ON A IS NOT COMPROMISED. HERE'S AN IMAGE OF THE SITE TO GIVE YOU A PICTURE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY. WITH THAT WE SENT NOTIFICATION WITHIN 25 FOOT RANGE AND 500 FOOT RANGE WE SENT 14 NOTICES. WE RECEIVED TWO RESPONSE INS OPPOSITION AND TWO IN FAVOR. IN ADDITION TO THAT WE HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL NOTICES I THINK ONE IN FAVOR AND ONE IN OPPOSITION IN FRONT OF YOU. AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN. THAT'S THAT RECOMMENDS THE DENIAL OF THE REQUEST TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM 4 BASIC COMMERCIAL CENTER DISTRICT TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR SINGLE FAMILY AS OF 10 USE AS THE PROPOSED PD REZONING AND ASSOCIATED CONCEPT PLAN NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER DESIGNATION. THEY ARE ALSO IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH THE EXISTING ADJACENT ZONING DISTRICT OF COMMERCIAL CENTER. THE NORTH SHORE CENTER FOR CONGRESS AND INDUSTRY, THAT OPPORTUNITY AREA IS CALLED OUT IN THE AGREE HENCE -- COMPREHENSIVE MAN AND IN CONFLICT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WITH THAT, OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. >> COMMISSIONER QUESTION FOR STAFF OR IS THE APPLICANT HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION. >> YES. >> LET'S WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE APPLICANT. WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS AND GET BACK TO YOU. APPLICANT CAN COME FORWARD STATE NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE SIR. I'M JOE DOUGLAS CAN WITH DOUGLAS PROPERTY 23 09 IN PLANO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GIVING THUS OPPORTUNITY. L THANK YOU AGAIN. WE KNOW THIS WAS IN YOUR FORM PACE CODE ON NORTH SHORE YOU APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THIS TO LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER AND TRY TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS WHY WE THINK THIS WOULD BE A GOOD USE FOR THE PROPERTY. , SUITABLE USE. AGAIN THIS IS A PICTURE THAT STAFF SHOWED YOU BUT AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS, THE PROPERTY HAS REALLY KNOLL VISIBILITY WITH THE TERRAIN FROM 190 AND YOU DO HAVE SINGLE FAMILY IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST AND TO THE EAST ONLY SEPARATED BY THE FLOOD PLAIN. FLOOD PLAIN ON THREE SIDES OF IT. THIS IS RATHER ISOLATED PIECE OF LAND. REALLY LIBERTY GROVE SERVES AS NATURAL BOUNDARY BETWEEN THE SINGLE FAMILY ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND ANY COMMERCIAL USES ON THE NORTH. PARTICULARLY WHEN THE LIBERTY ROAD CONNECT OR IS IN PLACE THEN THE BULK OF YOUR TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE GOING THAT WHICH TO WHERE THAT'S WHERE MORE OF YOUR COMMERCIAL AND MORE OF THE ACCESS ACCESS WOULD BE. HE AGAIN, THIS LAYOUT SHOWS A HOT OF THE GREEN AREAS WE TRIED TO ADDRESS WOULD BE SUITABLE FOR PARK BENCH. PAVILION. TIED TO YOUR PUBLIC TRAIL SYSTEM THAT THE PARK DEPARTMENT HAS PLANNED. WE WANTED TO DO THE MINIMUM INVASIVENESS OF THE TREES ALONG THEREMENT WE DID THE 6 FOOT TRAIL BUT THE PARK DEPARTMENT RATHER HAVE THE 10 FOOT TRAIL. WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH. THAT WE WANTED IT TO LOOK AS NATURAL AS POSSIBLE. THE REASON WE HAVE HOME BACKING TO THE OPEN SPACE INSTEAD OF STREET OR ALLEY AGAIN IS THE MAJOR TREE ARE IS ALONG THE BOUNDARY AND THE CENTER OF THE TREES ARE THERE MORE OR LESS SCRUB TREE GROWN UP ON LACK OF KEEPING IT MOWED AND CATTLE. BUT MAIN TREE ARE RIGHT THERE WHERE WE HAVE THE GREEN AREA PROVIDED FOR. AGAIN, THIS IS LANDSCAPED ALONG LIBERTY GROVE WITH THIS. SAMPLE OF SOME OF THE HOMES THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO BUILD ON HERE. THESE HOMES START IN THE 350 UP TO 500,000. YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF THE HOUSES WILL HAVE TWO AND A HALF TO 3 CAR GARAGES. A LOT OF OPEN AREAS TO IT. PLUMEVILLE HOME TAKES GREAT PRIDE IN BUILDING A QUALITY HOME. SOME OF THE BASIC ON THE HOME IS THE LIGHTING. GIVE YOU SOME BACK GROUND ON THE HOUSING AS YOUR MAKING YOUR DECISION ON THE ZONING THAT THIS IS A QUALITY PRODUCT. [00:15:03] OPEN SPACE THIS IS ACTUAL SUBDIVISIONS WE HAVE DONE. ACTUAL PICTURES OF HOW WE DO THE PARK BENCHES. THE TRAILS. THE PLAY GROUNDS. THE PAVILIONS. WE TRY TO INCORPORATE THEM AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE NATURAL FEATURE. ALSO THIS IS OPEN TO THE PU PUBLIC. NOT RESTRICTED TO JUST THE HOMEOWNER USE. THIS IS OPEN TO ANY CITIZENS OF THE CITY. THIS IF YOU LOOK AT AGAIN LIBERTY GROVE IS SUCH A NATURAL BOUNDARY TO SEPARATE THE COMMERCIAL FROM IT. RESIDENTIAL, THE TRAFFIC YOU TALK ABOUT LIBERTY GROVE IT WILL BE A FUTURE 4 LANE ROAD BUT RESIDENTIAL OBVIOUSLY CREATES LESS TRAFFIC THAN WHAT COMMERCIAL DOES. AND IF I CAN'T, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS TO QUOTE FROM YOUR OWN DOCUMENT, IS A GUIDING TOOL USED TO ASSIST WITH LAND FORECAST. IT IS FITTING TO ANALYZE EACH REQUEST INDIVIDUALLY AND IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT WHAT THE RESIDENTIAL IS ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF LIBERTY GROVE EAST AND WEST WITH THE FLOOD PLAIN, THIS TO ME IS MORE NATURAL FIT. WE HAVE GOT ABOUT OVER 1,000 ACRES IN THE NORTH SHORE AREA. THIS IS 56 ACRES SO IT'S NOT SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTION. ALSO IF YOU WANT TO TRACK COMMERCIAL, YOU HAVE TO HAVE HOUSING FOR THE EXECUTIVE TYPE HOUSING. THIS IS WHAT COULD BRING TO THIS AREA TO WHERE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO HAVE BUSINESSES HERE BUT THEY WANT PLACE TO LIVE, MIGHT NOT WANT TO LIVE IN A TOWN HOUSE THAT IS BEING CONSTRUCTED NOW. THESE ARE LARGE EXECUTIVE TYPE HOMES. WON'T TAKE UP A LOT OF YOUR TIME. 11 SOME TIME TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS. ALSO BE GLAD TO ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS ANY OF THE CITIZENS HAVE TO SPEAK IN THE OPEN FO FOUM. I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE. COMMISSIONERS BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING I WANT TO BECAUSE OF THE NEW SYSTEM WE ARE GOING TO BE USING THE PUT TONS FOR REQUEST TO SPEAK. SO IF YOU HAVE, WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST TO SPEAK, PRESS THE BUTTON. AND THEN WHEN WE GO TO VOTE, WE'LL VOTE LIKE WE NORMALLY DO. BUT WHEN YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION, PRESS THE MOVE BUTTON. WHEN YOU WANT TO SECOND IT, PRESS THE SECOND. SEE HOW IT WORKS TONIGHT. >> NEW TECHNOLOGY. >> THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. SO COMMISSIONERS AT THIS TIME BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE DEVELOPER AT THIS TIME. I'LL START AT THIS END. ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? >> I USE LIBERTY GROVE EVERY DAY. THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ON THERE IS EXTREMELY HIGH. IT'S BUMPER TO BUMPER AND FOR ANYBODY TO COME IN ALMOST A TRAFFIC LIGHT IN THERE AND REALLY WIDEN THAT ROAD I THINK IT'S VERY DIFFICULT. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS IS THE ESTHETIC ALONG THE ROAD TOO. LIKE TO KEEP THAT VERY TREE LINED ROAD. IT'S AN AREA THAT IS PART OF THE NORTH SHORE SO I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS. >> THANK YOU. >> I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. >> WITH THE LISTENED ESCAPE WE SHOW WOULD BE LANDSCAPING INSTEAD OF THE SCRUB TREE AND BARB WIRE. TRAFFIC IS HEAVY PAUSE OF ALL THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE EAST THERE. WE AGREE. BUT AGAIN THE SINGLE FAMILY WILL GENERATE LESS TRAFFIC THAN COMMERCIAL DOES. >> THANK YOU SIR APPRECIATE IT. SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPER OR THE STAFF AT THIS TIME, AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. I HAVE TWO SPEAKER CARDS HERE AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START. WE ARE GOING THE LIMIT SPEAK INVESTIGATORS 3 MINUTES A PIECE. FIRST SPEAKER CARDIFF IS RICKY HARPER OF THE ROW LAND HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION. L ARE YOUR COMMENTS TO DEAL WITH THIS, THIS ITEM? DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION, IS ATE GENERAL PRESENTATION OR ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? UP. I WAS CONFUSED WITH YOUR CARD. INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE THEY MINUTES. LIKE I SAY WE ARE TRYING TO, WE ARE DEALING WITH THIS AGENDA [00:20:03] ITEM AND IF YOU CAN. >> I WILL BE BRIEF. MY NAME IS RICKY HARPER. I SERVE ON THE POURED OF THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION AND AS I MENTIONED OUR PRESIDENT COULDN'T COME TONIGHT BUT HAD A FAMILY EMERGENCY AND SAID RICKY CAN YOU GO AND MAKE SOME COMMENTS. I SAID SURE. COULDN'T REACH HER AFTER THAT. SHE'S UNREACHABLE SO I'M HERE. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHICH DOESN'T SEEM TO PERTAIN VERY MUCH TO THE SUBJECT MATTER AT HAND BUT IF I COULD SAY A FEW CLARIFYING REMARK ABOUT WHAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS. IT'S MISNOMER. HOUSING FOR THE WORKING CLASS. AS YOU ALL KNOW THE AMI IS 84,000MNT WORKING CLASS INCLUDE TEACHERS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIRST RESPONDERS, CLERK AT CVS. THAT'S OUR MISSION. MISSION OF THE FINANCE CORPORATION IS TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SAFE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND GOOD QUALITY COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S REALLY THE ACCIDENT OF MY REMARKS THANK. >> THANK YOU APPRECIATE IT. >>> ROBERT MCCARRIER M MR. MCCARRIER? >> I'M ROBERT MCCARRIER. I CAME TONIGHT TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THIS WILL DO TO TRAFFIC ON LIBERTY GROVE. THAT WAS ALREADY SPOKEN TO BRIEFLY BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC ON LIBERTY GROVE ROAD DURING PEEK HOURS PARTICULARLY RUSH HOUR IS PRETTY BAD AS IT IS AND I FEEL THAT IF WE ALLOW MORE HOUSING IN THAT AREA, AT THIS TIME BEFORE WE HAVE TACKLE PROJECT AND DEALING WITH LIBERTY GROVE ROAD OR PROPOSED CONNECTOR FOR THE ROAD TO 190 THEN WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A FEW BIGGER PROBLEMS. THAT'S MY CONCERN. >> ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO DRESS THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION ON THIS AGENDA ITEM MOST RAISE YOUR HAND. SEEING NONE I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME. COMMISSIONERS DISCUSSION ON THE AGENDA ITEM I'LL START WITH THIS END. >> JUST SAY I HAVE STRONG CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON AND WE DON'T KNOW WHEN MERRICK ROAD IS COMING IN. IT COULD BE A NUMBER OF YEARS. IT WILL EVENTUALLY COME BUT BECAUSE OF HIGH VOLUME OF TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA THERE IS SOME MAJOR ISSUES WE ARE DEALING WITH. >> ANYTHING ELSE? >> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE DEVELOPER FOR HIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT. I'M ALWAYS SEEING BIGGER LOT AND TAKE ME BACK A LITTLE BIT BUT IN REVIEWING THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA AND I READ EVERYTHING ABOUT IT, COVER TO COVER, THIS AREA WAS DESIGNATED FOR BASE CODE BECAUSE OF ITS PROXIMITY TO THE GEORGE BUSH AND THIS IS WHAT THE CITY AS REST DIDN'T I AGREE WITH THIS. HAD HOPED TO BE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY HERE AND XHRTIONAL YOUNG AND THE DESIGNATION. I THINK I HAVE TO GO WITH STAFF ON THAT. >> YES I GUESS MY COMMENTS IS I WENT THROUGH IT I THINK OVER ALL I THINK A LOT OF DISCUSSION COMES ON WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES COMING IN TO ROWLETT. A LOT OF GOOD POINTS PARTICULARLY ON THE SDICHBILITY MY CONCERN REALLY IS THE LOCATION AND THE MOMENT CENTER. PART OF THE MACHINE THAT WE REALLY PUT A LOT OF DISCUSSION IN MY TIME SO FAR ON THIS COMMISSION. THAT IS A VALUABLE PIECE OF PROPERTY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE I THINK MAYBE -- HI THE SAME POINT THAT YOU DID AND I APPRECIATE THAT LIBERTY GROVE BE A BARRIER, DIVIDER AT FIRST THAT'S WHERE MY THOUGHTS WERE. KIND OF PUT MORE THOUGHT TO IT AS I GO BACK TO SAY AND WE NEED THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER. NEED THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS FIRST AND THEN IF WE HAVE THAT, THEN IF THERE IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THE ZONEING IN CERTAIN POCKETS TO SUPPORT THAT BUT IN [00:25:02] THIS CASE IT WOULD MAKE THE DECISION WE ARE KIND OF CHIPPING AWAY AT THAT AREA THAT WE ZONE FOR EMPLOYMENT CENTER AND THE CITY IN THE DIRECTION WITH THE DISCUSSION OF THE PLAN IS IMPORTANT TO GET WHAT IS INTENDED FOR MAY BE FILLED IN AT A LATER TIME. THAT'S MY THOUGHTS. >> I AGREE AS FAR AS THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE HEALTH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. BUT EVEN I WAS GOING TO SAY YES WE COULD DO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS. NEXT QUESTION THAT COMES TO MY MIND IS WHY SO MANY DEVIATION OR HOW MUCH NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE REQUIREMENTS ARE BEING REQUESTED. SO THAT WOULD KIND OF BOOK YOU OFF THERE. I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN I WON'T BE SUPPORTING IT. >> I LOOKED AT THIS AS WELL AND I, I AM CONCERNED THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE M DOUGLAS KNOWS I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU PUT INTO THIS AND BUT I AGREE WITH STAFF AND I AGREE WITH THE REST OF MY COMMISSIONERS HERE THAT WE JUST, WE HAVE TO, SOMETIMES IT'S DIFFICULT UP HERE WHEN YOU HAVE POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT IN AN AREA BUT WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO DEVELOP THE NORTH SHORE AREA FOR COMMERCIAL. WE HAVE SUCH RESIDENCE AS OPPOSED TO COMMERCIAL IN OUR CITY THERE'S SUCH A DISAPPROPRIATE MIX BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. WE NEED MORE COMMERCIAL. NEED TO SAVE EVERY PLACE ALREADY ZONED COMMERCIAL FOR THAT PURPOSE AND MY OPINION YOUR PRODUCT I WOULD HAVE MUCH LESS PROBLEM IF IT WAS IN A RESIDENTIALLY ZONE AREA BUT I WILL NOT AND CAN NOT SUPPORT THIS AND I HOPE THE CITY COUNCIL FOLLOWS OUR ADVICE ON THIS. AT THAT TIME I THINK YOU HAD SOMETHING TO SAY. I'M READY FOR A MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION. I DON'T SEE MOTIONS POPPING UP ON HERE SO L. GO AHEAD MAKE A MOTION. >> I MAKE A MOTION FOR RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE REQ REQUEST. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND DENIAL. DO I HAVE A SECOND. MR. COAT? I SAW YOU HIT THE BUTTON 5 TIMES. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. TO PUSH THE BUTTON. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.