[00:00:05] >> ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING, WELCOME TO THE WORK SESSION MEETING, IT IS MONDAY, OCTOBER [2.Citizens’ Input ] 16TH, 2026, CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS CITIZEN INPUT, COMMENTS WILL BE TAKEN ON ANY TOPIC. NO ACTION CAN BE TAKEN DURING CITIZEN INPUT. HAVE A FEW TO SPEAK. DAN HAPT, STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY OF STABRESIDENCE, YOU WILLE THREE MINUTES. >> DAN HAPT, ROWLETT, HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE. MY HOME IS CLOSE TO BACKSIDE OF SERVICE BARN WHERE COURSE MAINTENANCE HAPPENS. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN HIGHLIGHTING PROBLEM AROUND SERVICE BARN AREA. I'VE SPOKEN TO KING SIMMONS NUMEROUS TIMES. THIS IS CITY-OWNED MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSE LEASED TO AMERICAN GOLF CORP AS OPERATOR. FENCES RANGE FROM NO STAIN ON THE FENCE TO SEVERAL COLORS OF STAIN ON FENCE, TWO FENCES FALLING OR GREENING AND THE COURSE DOES NOT WATER BACK HERE. THE AREA RARELY GETS TRIMMED. WORKERS SPILL AMENDMENT, FERTILIZER AND SAND IN THE ROADWAY AND NEVER CLEAN UP UNLESS I TAKE TIME TO CALL KING. HE IS NOT GOOD AT TRAINING OR CORRECTION OF THE SERVICE TEAM. A TEAM MEMBER RAN OVER MY NEIGHBOR'S FENCE WITH A MOWER. I HEARD THE WRECK, WALKED DOWN, SPOKE TO RICK, SUPERVISOR ON DUTY WHO SAID HE WOULD FILE A REPORT AND DID NOT, MY NEIGHBOR AND MYSELF GOT ON A CONFERENCE CALL WITH KING. KING LET ME KNOW THERE ARE SEVERAL HOMES AROUND THE COURSE AND THE COURSE WAS THERE FIRST. THAT IS SO RICH, HE INSINUATED ROWLETT RESIDENTS DON'T MATTER. AFTER MUCH BACK AND FORTH WATERVIEW DID REPAIR MY NEIGHBOR'S FENCE. AMERICAN GOLF CORP IS NOT MEETING METRICS WITH THE CITY OF ROWLETT, WE NEED A NEW OPERATOR. THANK YOU. >> MR. HAPT. NEXT IS JAMES THOMAS STEAKLAND. FOLLOWED BY DEANNA ZIEGLER. >> GOOD EVENING, JAMES STAKELAND, LAKE SHORE VILLAGE ADJACENT TO ANIMAL SHELTER. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO ANIMAL SERVICES, ROWLETT NEEDS A SHELTER AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK. MY CONCERN IS PROPOSED LOCATION AND PROCESS BEING USED TO SELECT IT, PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING RESIDENTS AND ADVISORY BOARD RAISED SAME ISSUE, CRITICAL INFORMATION IS MISS WILL. ASKING PLANNING AND ZONING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BEFORE RESULT OF STUDY. COMMISSIONERS EXPRESSED CONCERN FROM BARKING DOG, OUTSIDE AREAS AND ONE COMMISSIONER STATED CONSTANT BARKING THEY PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED NEAR ANOTHER SHELTER BECAME DISRUPTIVE AND CONCLUDED SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD REQUESTED ALTERNATE SITES BE EVALUATED. THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT SOUND IMPACT, VOLUNTEER ACCESSIBILITY AND WHETHER THE ROAD IS THE BEST SITE FOR THE CITYWIDE FACILITY. THIS SITE IS ADJACENT TO ESTABLISHED NEIGHBOHOOD, COMMUNITY PLAYGROUND AND FAMILY HOMES. ONCE REZONED, THERE IS NO WAY TO UNDO THAT DECISION. THIS IS WHY THE CITY SHOULD HAVE ALL FACTS BEFORE MOVING FORWARD. WHAT CONCERN ME MOST THE CITY APPEAR TO BE ASKING RESIDENTS TO TRUST FUTURE STUDY, SITE PLAN AND MITIGATION MEASURES WILL SOLVE POTENTIAL PROBLEMS. STUDIES AND KNOW PLAS SHOULD COME FIRST NOT AFTER ZONING DECISION IS MADE. COMMISSION DENIED THE REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPOSAD SHELTER PROPERTY AND VOTED TO TABLE SPECIAL USE PERMIT SO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION COULD BE REVIEWED, THAT ACTION REFLECTED CONCERN THERE IS NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION AVAILABLE. TONIGHT I ASK THE COUNCIL TO PAUSE PROPOSAL, REVIEW NOISE STUDY EVALUATE ALTERNATIVE LOCATION. OUR NEIGHBORHOODS DESERVE THAT [00:05:02] LEVEL OF DILIGENCE AND SO DO TAXPAYER SAYS OF ROWLETT. ONE LAST THOUGHT, IF YOU LIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOUR PROPERTY BACKED UP TO THE ROAD, WOULD YOU VOTE TO APPROVE THIS ANIMAL SHELTER? I GUARANTEE THAT ANSWER IS A SOLID NO. THANK YOU. >> NEXT SPEAKER IS DEANNA ZIEGLER, FOLLOWED BY BETH CR CROCKET. >> I WANTED TO TALK (INAUDIBLE) -- >> ARE WE HAVING ANIMAL SHELTER PRESENTATION? YOU ARE GOOD, BETH CROCKET. >> BETH CROCKET, ROWLETT, I'M HERE TO COMMENT ON THE ACOUSTICAL STUDY BEING DONE BY HELPER WELPER, PROGRESS SENDING STAFF OUT TO TAKE DECIBEL READINGS UNLESS IT INVOLVES A COMPANY FAMILIAR WITH SHELTER SUCH AS AS ANIMAL ARTS OR SHELTER PLANNERS OF AMERICA TO EVALUATE SIREN SOUND ON DOGS IT IS NOT VALID SOUND STUDY AND MUST BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION THE EFFECT OF SIRENS WILL HAVE ON THE DOG SAYS. FAILURE TO DO SO CAN RESULT IN UPSETTING THE DOGS, BUT CONTINUED EXPOSURE COULD RESULT IN DEAFNESS IN SOME DOGS. ACCORDING TO VETERINARIAN ASSOCIATION. THERE ARE SO MAY BE REASONS NOT TO BUILD AT THIS SITE. THERE IS CONCERN VOLUNTEERS WILL DWINDLE. LAST YEAR VOLUNTEERS CONTRIBUTED VOLUNTEER HOURS AMOUNTING TO 30 HOURS PER WEEK FOR 70 VOLUNTEERS, THIS EQUALS ANOTHER FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE AT THE SHELTER. THIS IS VALUABLE RESOURCE WE HOPE TO BUILD ON ONCE WE HAVE A NEW MORE WELCOMING SHELTER. IF BUILT ON SHRADY, WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT VOLUNTEERS. NOT BEING IN CENTRAL LOCATION THERE IS CONCERN ADOPTION WOULD INCREASE AND THIS WOULD INCREASE EUT EUTHANASIA. WE NEED TO BE IN A CENTRALLY LOCATED SITE AT THE AUGUST 20 ANIMAL SHELTER MEETING WE REQUESTED CITY COUNCIL LOOK AT ALTERNATE SITES. PLEASE CONTINUE TO DO THAT EVEN THOUGH IT WILL REQUIRE BUYING PROPERTY. THE INFRASTRUCTURE COST ARE SIGNIFICANT, THEY INCLUDE ACOUSTICAL IMPROVEMENT TO SHELTER ITSELF WHICH MAY NOT BE ENOUGH TO PROTECT THE DOG INSIDE THE SHELTER. CURRENT SHELTER DOGS AVERAGE FIVE HOURS PER DAY OUTSIDE PLAYING WEATHER PERMITTING. NOTHING TO PROTECT THESE ANIMALS FROM SIREN SOUNDS OUTSIDE. WE NEED TO BUILD A SOUND BARRIER BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SHELTER AND WE WOULD NEED TO BUILT EXTESNSIVE SIDEWALKS TO WALK THE DOGS BEHIND SHELTER. COST WOULD NOT BE NECESSARY IF WE BUILD IN A MORE CENTRALLY LOCATED LOT. WE HAVE LESS THAN 8.4 MILL YOB TO BUILD A SHELTER THAT WILL LAST US 20 YEAR SAYS. WE CANNOT AFFORD TO MAKE A COSTLY MISTAKE BECAUSE CITY-OWNED PROPERTY. THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE BETTER SUITED FOR FIRE TRAINING FACILITY OR PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY. ADD THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND PROPOSED SHELTER IS OPPOSED TO BUILDING THE SHELTER THERE. PLEASE LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY AND ANIMAL -- ALTERNATE SITES THAT ARE MORE CENTRALLY LOCATED AND DO NOT BACK UP TO A NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS SITE IS NOT RIGHT FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MS. CROCKET. MS. ZIEGLER, ITEM 3B, NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, NOW IS THE TIME TO DO THAT. >> DEANNA ZIEGLER, ROWLETT. I SPOKE AT PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF I [00:10:05] SPOKE HERE ABOUT THIS. AS A MEMBER OF ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD I WANT TO REITERATE THAT WE WERE STRONGLY, WE SAID WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE SITES, I'M HOPING WE WILL SEE ALTERNATIVE SITES. I WAS AT PLANNING AND ZONING AND THEY DID NOT APPROVE SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THAT LOCATION. I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT BEING A GOOD LOCATION FOR BOTH VOLUNTEERS AND WALK-IN CLIENTS TO THE SHELTER BECAUSE IT IS NOT MORE CENTRALLY LOCATED IN THE CENTER OF THE CITY. I AM OPPOSED TO THE SHRADY LOCATION AND HOPING TO SEE IN TODAY'S AGENDA ITEM THAT WE HAVE MORE ALTERNATIVES TO LOOK AT. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. WAS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? >> SEEING NONE MOVE TO ITEM 3A, WE WILL REORIENT SOME ITEMS TODAY, I WANT 3A AND 3B DISCUSSED, THE TWO MOST HAVE MOST ATTENTION ON THEM THIS EVENING. WE WILL MOVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND DO 5A AND 5B AND COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AND CONTINUE WITH WORK SESSION AND DO 3D, E, ANDF AND 5C. WE HAVE A PACKED AGENDA. 3A, RECEIVE UPDATE ON HERFUTH [3.A. Receive an update on the Herfurth Park Concept Plan and community feedback and participate in a Paper Doll exercise to provide input on the development of the Herfurth Park Design] PARK AND PARTICIPATE IN PAPER DOLL EXERCISE TO PROVIDE INPUT ON HERFUTH PARK DESIGN. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, WITH ME IS OUR PROJECT TEAM, SITTING BEHIND ME PRIMARY ARCHITECT HAFORD WALKER, TEAM PRESENTED BY LUKE ARCHER AND JAMES BEER. THERE IS OUR DESIGN ENGINEER TEAM, REPRESENTING WESTWOOD, AS WELL AS OUR SEMORE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT CONTRACTOR REPRESENTED HERE BY THE SWINERTON TEAM. PURPOSE OF TONIGHT'S MEETING IS REALLY TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW COMMUNITY DEVELOPED CONCEPT PLAN AND LOOK AT PRELIMINARY COST ESTIMATE THAT WAS CREATED BASED UPON THAT. AND THEN MOVE INTO PAPER DOLL EXERCISE WITH COUNCIL, ABLE TO PROVIDE INPUT ON AMENITIES AND GOAL BEING ABLE TO FIT WITHIN OUR EXISTING AVAILABLE BUDGET OF 5.1 MILLION DOLLARS. SO I'LL START THE PRESENTATION WALKING YOU THROUGH REFRESHER OF THE PROJECT, PROJECT RECAP TALKING ABOUT THE HISTORY AND COMMUNITY INPUT AND THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO THE NEXT SECTION, LOOKING AT CONCEPT CREATED BY THE COMMUNITY AND PREVIOUS EXERCISE AND THEN WE WILL BE DOING THE COUNCIL EXERCISE HERE AT THIS TABLE. SO BACKGROUND ON THE PROJECT. ON MARCH 16 OF 2026, CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO EVALUATE ALTERNATIVE LOCATION FOR MUNICIPAL COMPLEX, WHICH IN JULY 9 OF 2026, CITY COUNCIL REACHED CONCENSUS TO PROCEED WITH REVISED MASTER PLAN FOR HERFUTH PARK. AUGUST 18 OF 2026 CITY COUNCIL ADOPT RESOLUTION FOR AMENDMENT THREE TO PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH HERFUTH PARK CONCEPT PLAN. ON SEPTEMBER 20 OF 2026 THE CITY RECEIVED RESULT OF HERFUTH PARK CONCEPT PLAN SURVEY WITH 338 RESPONSES ADDRESSING PRIORITY FOR FUTURE PARK DESIGN. ON SEPTEMBER 28TH OF 2026, UPDATE WITH SURVEY RESULTS WE AT THAT MEETING ABLE TO GO THROUGH RESULT ANALYSIS IN DEPTH AND WE FOLLOWED THAT WITH SEPTEMBER 30 MEETING WITH COMMUNITY AND, PAS RECREATION BOARD MEMBERS WHERE WE LOOKED AT SIMILAR PAPER DOLL EXERCISE SESSION AND CAME UP WITH DESIGN CONCEPT WE'LL LOOK AT LATER. FUNDING AND BUDGET RECAP FOR THE PROJECT. YOU'LL SEE THAT AS PART OF THE DEAL BOND THAT WAS ISSUED BETWEEN 2018 AND 2019, UNDER PROPOSITION B THERE WAS 1.8 [00:15:04] MILLION DOLLAR TOTAL LOCATED TO IMPROVEMENT OF HERFUTH PARK AND FOLLOWED BY ANOTHER GEO-BOND ISSUE DURING 2023 AND 2024 UNDER PROPOSITION C WITH TOTAL OF 4.4 MILLION DOLLARS. ALSO FOR HERFUTH PARK IMPROVEMENTS. A TOTAL AMOUNT SPENT TO DATE IS 1.5 MILLION. THAT SPENT TO DATE INCLUDED IMPROVEMENT THAT WERE PART OF PHASE ONE AND SURVEY WORK THAT WAS DONE AND IN THE HERFUTH PARK. AND THEN ALSO ENCUMBERED OR COMMITTED FUNDS ACCOUNTED FOR AMENDMENT THREE, THE DESIGN UNDER HERFUTH PARK WALKER OF 400 K. WITH THAT, CURRENT AVAILABLE PROJECT FUNDS IS REMAINDER 4.7 MILLION FROM PREVIOUS BONDS, AS WELL AS ABOUT 400 K THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ROLLER HOCKEY RISK IMPROVEMENT WHICH CAN BE LEVERAGED WITHIN THIS PROJECT AND WHILE IMPROVEMENT PART OF THE SCOPE OF THE WORK. TOTAL AVAILABLE FUND IS 5.1 MILLION DOLLARS. SO A LITTLE REFRESHER ABOUT THE TAKEAWAY FROM OUR COMMUNITY SURVEY WE REVIEWED IN DETAIL THE LAST MEETING. WE HAD 338 COMMUNITY RESPONSES IN TOTAL, MAIN THEME OR MAIN THREE TAKEAWAYS, REQUIREMENT FOR INTEGRATED SHADE SO SHADES OVER SEATING PLAYGROUND, ACTIVITY SPACE WITH SHADE AND PICNIC PAVILION AND FUNCTIONAL OPEN SPACE THAT WAS MORE PRIORITIZED IN MULTI PURPOSE FIELD AND OPEN PLAY AREAS AND THEN ADDITIONALLY SOME LOWER PRIORITY AMENITIES THAT WERE KIND OF LEFT AT PRIORITIZE LOWEST END OF PRIORITY WHICH IS AS YOU SEE HERE MORE LIKE FITNESS OUTDOOR FITNESS KWIMENT OR SPORTS RELATED THEME AND DOG PARK AND THAT WAS REALLY THE RESULT OF THE ANALYSIS. SO WHEN WE DID THE COMMUNITY WORKSHOP WHICH WAS PAPER DOLL EXERCISE SESSION DONE WITH COMMUNITY IN PRESENT OF, PA PARKS BOARD, WE WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY CREATE FOUR DIFFERENT GROUPS OF THE PARTICIPANTS AND THEY WERE KIND OF NAMED, A, B, C, D, AND EACH ABLE TO WORK ON SIMILAR SESSION WITH MAP HERE AND CREATED THEIR OWN CONCEPT DESIGN FOR THE PARK OF WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO SEE. AND PRIORITIZE AND THEN IN THE END OF THAT SESSION, WE WERE ABLE TO COMBINE THE OVERLAPPING PRIORITIES AND COME UP WITH CONCEPT DESIGNEE WHICH IS WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO START LOOKING AT TONIGHT. SO THE CONCEPTS THAT WERE EXHIBITS FROM THE TEAM HAVE PUT TOGETHER IN TERMS OF WHAT THE GROUPS WORKED ON ARE AS SHOWN HERE. YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE FOR GROUP A, YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE AMENITIES THAT WERE COMMONLY SHOWN ON ALL OF THE PLANS TO START WITH LEAVING EXISTING PARKING ON MAIN STREET, LEAVING THE HOCKEY RISK WITH SOME IMPROVEMENTS, LEAVING THE RESTROOMS, AS WELL AS THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. THERE WERE ADDITIONAL AMENITY FOR FIELDS, FLEX FIELDS, GREEN FLEX FIELDS SHOWN HERE, THIS GROUP SHOWED UNIQUELY REQUESTED DRY POND TO BE IN THE PARK, AS WELL AS PLAYGROUNDS, SOME OF THE SPO SPORTSES COURSE LIKIC APPRO APPRO APPROXIMATE -- PICKLE BALL COURT AND BASKETBALL COURTS AND TENNIS COURTS. FOR GROUP B, CONCEPT WAS YOU SEE A LITTLE DIFFERENT LEAVING A LOT OF EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. THEY ELECTED SAME THING THAT WE KEEP THE EXISTING FRONT PARKING, KEEP HOCKEY RISK WITH IMP IMPROVEMENT AND DOG PARK WITH IMPROVEMENT SAYS AND WE ADD ASHGSZ M -- AMPHITHEATER, WITH [00:20:10] OPEN FIELD, THERE WERE TALKS BEING SIMPLE STAGE-LIKE AMPHITHEATER THAT FIT THE THEME OF THE PARK. THERE WAS SOME WATER FEATURE REQUIREMENT PLAYGROUND AND SOME SHADES. GROUP C INCLUDE AMPHI THEATER, ALL THE FIELDS, KEEPING SIMILAR INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED AND PLAYGROUND, WATER FEATURE AND SPORTS COURTS AND KEEPING THE EXISTING HOCKEY RISK AND DOG PARK. AND THE LAST GROUP HERE WAS GROUP D CONCEPT WHICH HAD CALLED FOR ADDITIONAL OR EXTENSION OF PARKING. A LOT OF EXTENSION OF PARKING YOU SEE IN GRAY, YOU WILL SEE ALSO SOME OF THE OVERLAPPING REQUIREMENT OF HAVING SOME PLAYGROUND, SOME LITTLE WATER FEATURE, SHADE, AS WELL AS THE FLEX FIELD AND SOME OF THE PLAY SPORTS COURTS. SO HERE YOU WILL SEE COMPARISON OF ALL FOUR OF THEM PUT TOGETHER AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS CREATED WITH THE TEAM THE 5TH DESIGN GROUP E, THAT HAS OVERLAPPING VOTEINGS OF TWO PLUS ON THE MAPS OR SHOWED UP ON TWO PLUS OF THESE DESIGNS. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE AND COMPARE THEM, YOU WILL SEE THAT IS NOT PRIORITY ACROSS SMALL GROUP WERE RETAINED EXISTING MAIN STREET PARKING PROVIDE MULTI PURPOSE FIELD AND PICKLEBALL COURT, SHADE STRUCTURE AND RESTROOM AND CONSIDERATION FOR PLAYGROUND AND HOCKEY UPGRADES. FOR LARGER GROUP DISCUSSIONS AND THEMES TO KEEP DOG PARK IMPROVE COMFORT WITH SHADE, PRIORITIZE PARK AMENITY OVER ADDED ROAD OR PARKING AND TALK ABOUT LIMIT NUMBER AND SCALE OF WATER FEATURE AND ALSO TALKS ABOUT REVIEWING TRAIL AND CIRCULATION CONNECTION FOR SOME SAVINGS OVER THERE. SO ONE OTHER TAKEAWAY FROM THAT EXERCISE AND I KNOW MAYOR WAS IN AT ATTENDANCE AND SOME CITY COUNCIL, COMMUNITY VERY FLEXIBLE IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT AMENITY AND ABILITY TO ADJUST TO BE ABLE TO FIT WITHIN OUR THRESHOLD OR BUDGET CONSTRAIN AND STILL BE ABLE TO GET THE BEST OUT OF WHAT THEY COULD IN TERMS OF THE AVAILABLE BUDGET AND AMENITIES. SO THIS IS CONSOLIDATED PLANNING OPTION, WHICH WAS ADDING AMENITIES WE TALKED ABOUT THAT HAS BASICALLY THE COMMON OF TWO PLUS ON THOSE FOUR DIFFERENT GROUPS. AND YOU'LL SEE HERE TO HIGHLIGHT THE ONLY LIMIT NOT INCLUDED MAINLY WAS THE DRY POND AS WELL AS AGILITY COURSE. SO YOU'LL SEE HERE THIS IS THE SAME AS WE MADE IT TRY TO CONFIGURE IT TO LOOK A LOT SIMILAR TO THIS PLAN TO BE THE STARTING OF OUR EXERCISE NEXT. SO WE WORKED WITH OUR PROJECT TEAM AND SWINTERTON ABLE TO GIVE US ROUGH ORDER OF MAGNITUDE COST GIVEN ACCEPTED AMENITY WE LOOKED AT EARLIER AND IT CAME OUT TO BE ALMOST 6.7 MILLION SO WITH THE AVAILABLE BUDGET OF 5.1 APPROXIMATELY 5.1 MILLION DOLLARS THERE WAS APPROXIMATELY 1.6 MILLION DOLLARS DEFICIT THAT WE ARE LEFT WITH IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET. SO HERE IS HIGH LEVEL ROUGH OLDER MAGNITUDE COST ESTIMATE THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER IN THE BREAKDOWN OF THAT HIGH-LEVEL BREAKDOWN, DEFINITELY WILL BE REFINED BASED ON FINAL AMENITY AND AS DESIGN EVOLVE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE SWEARINGTON TEAM TO REFINE THE NUMBERS. SO DURING THEIR PART OF THE SYSTEM THEY USED TO DO THIS IS ABILITY TO DEVELOP ALL OF THE [00:25:08] ACCEPTED ITEMS UP TO TOTAL THAT YOU SAW AND THEN BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT AND PRICE TAG ABLE TO HELP US DURING THIS EXERCISE TO DEDUCT AS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW THAT IS GOING TO PLAY WHETHER TO REMOVE OR ADD ANY AMENITY AND HOW THAT IMPACT OVERALL FINAL BUDGET. SO EXERCISE TODAY REALLY IS GOING TO BE ALL ABOUT STARTING WITH WHAT MUST BE INCLUDED. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT IDENTIFYING MUST-HAVES FIRST IN THE PARK AND THEN NEXT LAYER IS GOING TO BE WHAT RIGHT SIZE WHAT WE HAVE SO WHAT CAN BE ADJUSTED TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON WHETHER QUANTITY OR FINISH LEVEL SIZE OF THESE AMENITIES TO HELP US REDUCE COST AND THEN WHAT CAN BE FACED MAYBE IF THERE IS INTEREST IN PHASING OUT ANY AMENITIES TO THE FUTURE. SO FROM HERE I'LL GIVE IT TO THE TEAM TO TAKE US THROUGH HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK AND HOW THE EXERCISE WILL BE WORKING AND WE CAN THEN START THE EXERCISE. THANK YOU. SGLP BEFORE WE DO THAT, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS POINT? I KNOW A LOT OF GRAPHICS WERE SMALL, WE DID GET A COPY OF THE SLIDE SHOW, IF YOU HAVE YOUR LAPTOP, YOU CAN PULL THAT UP AND GET ENLARGED VERSION. NO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? JAMES? TAKE IT AWAY. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? GOOD EVENING. WHAT WE DID, CULMINATION WHAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF US HERE. WE'LL GO THROUGH THIS AND MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE, LUKE ARCHER, MYSELF, REBECCA RIOS AND CODY ATWOOD AND WHITMIRE FOR THE LANDSCAPING PIECE. AMENITY SAYS ARE INCLUDED IN SWINERTON PRICING MODEL AND PRICE IS HIGHER THAN YOU BUDGET FOR. AS YOU ADD OR SUBTRACT. BASE AMENITIES FROM THE FOUR GROUPS WE MET WITH ON 30TH OF SEPTEMBER. THERE WAS GREAT FEEDBACK. THE INTET IS TO BALANCE APPROACH OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH BASE AMENITY, ONE CHARGE LAST TIME, KEECH AS MUCH EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE CAN, WE WILL TEST FIT LAYOUT SAYS. THIS IS CONSENSUS PLAN THEY PROVIDED TO US, IT IS YOUR TURN TO SIT DOWN LIKE WE'VE DONE BEFORE AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WILL BE PART OF THE PROJECT AND WHAT WILL NOT BE IN REALTIME. WE CAN DO THAT IN REALTIME, TALK TO CHRIS, AS WELL, IF WE DO IT THAT WAY. IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, MAYOR, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE GOING TO STEP UP HERE? >> I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT CONCEPT E, BEFORE WE MOVE TO THAT. >> YES, SIR. >> TELL ME THE THINKING BEHIND IN CONCEPT E, THERE IS A PARKING LOT LOCATED BEHIND THE CHAMBER BUILDING, SOUTH OF THE CHAMBER BU BUILDING. WHAT IS THINKING OF HAVING THAT THERE VERSUS AIDE JACENT TO COURTS ALONG CENTENNIAL THAT WOULD CONNECT TO DRIVEWAY THAT WOULD COME IN FROM THE EAST? >> TURNOVER HERE A LITTLE BIT, CAN YOU SEE THIS? >> YEAH. >> I THINK SO. >> INTENT MAINTAIN FRONT PARKING LOT AND CODY, IF YOU WANT TO COME UP IN A SECOND, THAT IS FINE. THIS PARKING IS EXTENSION LOT FOR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE BUILDING, MAINTAIN EXISTING SHADE BATHROOM STRUCTURE. THIS BECAME THE ACTIVITY ZONE. FOR THIS AMOUNT OF USE THERE WAS NOT ADEQUATE PARKING FOR THE SIDE, THIS CAN BE CUT BACK OR ADDED TO AND WITHOUT LOOKING AT INTENDED USE OF PARKING THAT IS WHAT THIS WAS FOR TO GET PARKING COUNT IN FRONT AREA OF ACTIVITY. >> I THINK THE GRAPHIC IN THE SLIDE DECK IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, IT DOES NOT HAVE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE COURT FURTHER SOUTH, WAY FURTHER SOUTH. YEP, ROAD THAT GOES EAST-WEST THERE. THAT ONE. THAT ROAD IS NOT IN THE GRAPHIC IN THE POWERPOINT. >> THAT IS CORRECT. IN THE POWERPOINT, CONNECTION BETWEEN ALANO AND CENTENNIAL WAS NOT PART OF ANY CONCEPT. [00:30:04] THERE WAS NOT A CONNECTION CUTTING THROUGH THE PARK. >> I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT, TALKING ABOUT THE STUB GOING FROM CENTENNIAL TO SHIRAZ, THAT IS NOT ON THE POWERPOINT. >> INTENT OF THIS TWO ACCESS POINT THIS IS ONE THAT IF IT WAS REQUIRED WE COULD PUT THAT THERE, THAT WAS HOW IT WAS PLANNED ORIGINALLY, POWERPOINT INCLUDED THIS. IF THIS IS NOT REQUIREMENT, THIS IS NOT PUT IN. >> GOT IT. >> SAFETY CONCERN WAS ADDED WHEN WORKING AND DEALING WITH CHIEF AND FIRE TO MAKE SURE ADEQUATE ACCESS TO CONNECTS EAST. >> OKAY, I GES MY QUESTION REALLY IS THEN THOUGHT ABOUT HAVING ADDITIONAL PARKING NEAR THE COURT. WHAT I'M SEEING IS THERE IS NOT -- >> PLEASE. >> ON THE POWERPOINT, IF YOU HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU, THERE SHOULD BE BLACK DASHED IN LINE. >> THERE IS. >> THAT IS SIMILAR LEVEL OF THE PARKING LOT EXTENSION, THE BLACK DASHING LINE SHOWS OPTION TO GO UP AND THEN THERE SHOULD BE BLACK DASHED LINES HERE, AS WELL, TO GET YOU CLOSER TO THE COURT AND A LITTLE BIT OF PARKING DASHED IN OFF THE ROAD. >> I SEE. >> BASICALLY EAST-WEST FROM CENTENNIAL. >> OKAY. MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION FOR YOU ALL AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANYBODY FROM ANIMAL ARTS OR YOU CAN SPEAK WHAT THEY MIGHT THINK. YOU HAVE A PLAYGROUND LOCATED NEAR A DOG PARK, IS THERE CONCERN HAVING YOUNG KIDS NEAR A DOG PARK AT ALL. FURTHEST TO THE SOUTH. >> DOG PARK HERE. >> THERE IS AMPHITHEATER IN THAT DRAWING. >> PROBABLY 200 FEET FROM THE DOG PARK. >> SORRY, IN POWERPOINT. >> WE HAVE A DIFFERENT VERSION. >> YOU ARE LOOKING AT -- >> MAYOR, WHAT YOU ARE PULLING IS OLDER VERSION WE HAVE FOLLOWED UP WITH UPDATED VERSION AND IT SHOULD STILL SHOW THIS WHICH MOVES PLAYGROUND INTO THIS SIDE, YOU WILL SEE HERE. >> OKAY. THEN YOU CAN IGNORE THAT QUESTION, IT SEEMS NO LONGER RELEVANT. COUNC COUNCILLOR? >> EXCUSE ME. TO YOUR COMMENT AND THE QUESTION ABOUT THE DOTTED LINE, IT ACTUALLY CAME UP SEVERAL TIMES DURING THE COMMUNITY FORUM OF CONNECTING, YOU HAVE COMING OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU HAVE COMES INTO A PARKING LOT AND THEN THERE WAS A DOTTED LINE AND I THINK THERE MAY HAVE BEEN EVEN STAFF INSISTENCE THAT COMES THROUGH. COMMUNITY DID NOT WANT THAT TO COME THROUGH AND I WILL TALK ABOUT FROM MY PROFESSION, PUBLIC SAFETY, IF YOU HAVE THAT COME THROUGH, IT IS A CUT THROUGH FROM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO APARTMENTS OR VICE VERSA AND WHEN YOU HAVE ABILITY TO CRUISE THAT CREATES PROBLEMS. WHEN THERE ARE STOP POINTS, PEOPLE COME IN AND CAN'T COME ALL THE WAY THROUGH. NOW YOU HAVE KIDS PLAYING IN A BIG ENVIRONMENT WITH A ROAD GOING THROUGH IT. THE COMMUNITY, THEY WERE EXPLICIT NOT TO HAVE THE CUT-THROUGH. >> THAT WAS DOTTED BECAUSE IT CAME UP IN ONE OPTION, INTENT IS FRONT TO BACK OR NORTH TO SOUTH, YOU CAN WALK WITHOUT CROSSING A PATHWAY AND ONE COMMITTEE HAD A CH CHILD -- CUTTING ACROSS THE STREET HERE, KCOGNIZANT HOW THE PATHS WILL GET AWAY FROM CROSSING A VEHICLE PARKING, YOU CAN HAVE TWO PIECES INDEPENDENT OF ONE ANOTHER. INTENT NOT TO CONNECTS, IT CAME UP IN CONVERSATION, DOES NOT HAVE CONNECTION FROM CENTENNIAL BACK TO ALANO. INTENT TO KEEP AS MUCH INFRASTRUCTURE AS POSSIBLE TO CONSERVE WHAT WAS SPENT FROM BUDGET AND B, TIE IN AS BEST WE CAN. >> I BELIEVE ON THAT E, THERE IS PARKING DOWN THERE IN THE END TOWARD THE DOG PARK AND STUFF, ISN'T THERE? >> THERE IS. THAT IS AN EXISTING LOT THAT IS FURTHER SOUTH. CURRENTLY TODAY THERE IS A LOT THAT EXIST BETWEEN THE TWO TENNIS COURTS, GRAVEL LOT AND PROVIDES MOST ACCESSIBLE TO THE AMENITIES WHICH IS WHY I ASKED ABOUT THAT. >> PART OF THE WORKSHOP, WE CAN CUT THOSE OUT BUT INTENT TO PUT PARKING WHERE THE USES ARE AND KEEP IT AS SECURE AS POSSIBLE AND SAFE AS POSSIBLE TO GET TO [00:35:04] AND FROM THE SITE. THE CONNECTION HERE GOING EASTBOUND, THROUGH-WAY CONDITION. RIGHT NOW IF YOU COME TO THE END YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE ON. INTENT HOW YOU GET BACK UP AND THIS IS OUTLET AND NOT GOING BACK. >> YEAH. >> DO YOU HAVE, GO AHEAD. DO YOU HAVE MORE IN YOUR PRESENTATION OR ARE WE READY TO BREAK OUT INTO THE GROUP? >> I THINK PROBABLY READY. >> WHY DON'T YOU ASK YOUR QUESTION AND HAVE EVERYBODY GET UP AND GO TO THE TABLE. >> ONE QUICK QUESTION AND THIS MAY NOT BE THE SPOT, YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER IT. HEARD SEVERAL COMMUNITY MEMBERS BRING THIS UP, WE BROUGHT TRYING TO LOOK FOR PLACES TO SAVE MONEY. WE BOUGHT HEAVY KWIMENT TO REDO ROADS AND GRADERS, TALKING ABOUT DOING PARKING LOT, DO WE HAVE KWIMENT TO DO THAT OURSELVES AND DOES THAT SAVE MONEY? >> WE DO HAVE EQUIPMENT TO TACKLE SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE RAISED, HOWEVER, WHAT WE NEED TO DETERMINE IS THERE VALUE-ADD TO DO THAT BASED ON ULTIMATE ONE VERSION OF THE CONCEPT PLAN WE LAND ON AND SECONDLY WHAT IT ENTAILS FROM PLANNING PERSPECTIVE. >> OKAY. >> I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A PROBLEM EXPLORING THAT IDEA, I WOULD ASK WE NOT, IF WE HAVE OUR TEAMS AND OUR EQUIPMENT WORKING ON CAPITAL PROJECT IT MEANS THEY ARE NOT DOING SOMETHING ELSE INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED AND WOULDN'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM ROAD WORK TO ACCOMPLISH THIS PROJECT WHICH COULD OTHERWISE BE OUTSOURCED IF THERE ARE PANEL REPLACEMENT AND SIDEWALKS, RATHER SEE THOSE GET DONE WITH OUR INTERNAL TEAMS. >> LET'S BREAK OUT INTO THE GROUP. I WOULD ASK WE TRY TO JUST LIMIT COMMENT TO ONE AT A TIME AND TRY TO AVOID SIDE CONVERSATION, WE ARE IN A PUBLIC MEETING AND WANT PUBLIC TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND HEAR WHAT WE'RE SAYING AND WANT THOSE AT HOME AND ON THE RECORDING TO BE ABLE TO HEAR, AS WELL. WE'LL ANGLE THAT MIC AS FAR AS WAY AS WE CAN AND ASK IF YOU HAVE A COMMENT OR QUESTION OR LIKE TO MAKE A SUGGESTION, SPEAK UP AND TRY TO DIRECT THAT COMMENT INTO THE MIC INSOFAR AS YOU CAN. GO AHEAD AND MAKE OUR WAY TO THE MIDDLE HERE AND WE'LL START THAT PRO PROCESS. >> ONE IDEA SHARED WITH ME I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, IT WOULD CAOMPLICATE PHASING WHT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE. >> CAN YOU PUT THAT RIGHT HERE? >> SORRY, MAYOR. >> THAT'S ALL RIGHT. I WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO HEAR WHAT I SAY. >> THERE WAS EVEN THE IDEA OF PERHAPS A LONG-TERM SOLUTION OF HAVING LIBRARY WITHIN HERFUTH HEARD TOSSED AROUND AND OTHER - IDEA WHERE LIBRARY MIGHT RESIDE CURRENT PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY MIGHT BE ONE OF THOSE LOCATIONS, THERE ARE OPTIONS THERE. I WANT TO SAY THAT IF THE LIBRARY WERE GOING TO GO TO HERFUTH PARK AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, NOT PART OF THIS PHASE, WE WOULD WANT TO PLAN FOR THAT, AS WELL, WE COULD HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, IF YOU FEEL LIKE THERE IS VALUE IN THAT. IF YOU THINK THAT IS PIE IN THE SKY IDEA, BUILDING NEW FACILITY WE MIGHT WANT TO CONTINUE DOWN THIS PATH. >> MAYOR, AS LIBRARY ADVISORY COUNCIL LIAISON TO THAT, I WOULD THAT IDEA CAME UP AND I WANT TO SEE US PUT THOUGHT IN HERFUTH PARK JUST TO SEE IF WE CAN, NOT SAYING WE NEED TO, TO LOOK AROUND IF WE WANT. >> I AM CURIOUS, DID NOT REALIZE THERE WAS CONVERSATION ABOUT LIBRARY GOING INTO THIS PARK. CAN WE DO THAT AFTER ALL THE STUFF WE DID BEFORE? CAN YOU PUT A LIBRARY IF YOU CAN'T PUT ANYTHING ELSE IN THERE, HOW COME YOU CAN PUT A LIBRARY IN THERE, UNKNOWN [00:40:02] QUESTION, SEE WHAT THOUGHTS ARE ABOUT THAT. >> ABSOLUTELY, WE HAVE TO EXPLORE WHETHER WE CAN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ANOTHER MUNICIPAL FACILITY WITHIN A PARKS, THERE ARE GRANT OBLIGATIONS, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IS NOT A POSSIBILITY OR OPTION, WE CAN DOUBLE-CHECK AND EXPLORE THAT. >> IF WE PUT ANOTHER PIECE OF MUNICIPAL PROPERTY IN THERE, WE HAVE TO REPLACE THAT SOMEWHERE ELSE. YOU WILL PAY WHEREVER IT IS GOING TO BE, THERE IS PROBABLY ANOTHER SOLUTION THAN GOING TO SEARCH FOR MORE PARK. ANY OTHER FEEDBACK? >> NOT ONLY HEARING -- CARTER? >> GENERALLY I'VE HAD LONG-TERM VIEW OF WHAT DOWNTOWN WILL LOOK LIKE AND AS WE CONTINUE FROM CURRENT CITY HALL TO HERFUTH PARK HOW THAT TIES TOGETHER AND I BELIEVE LIBRARY IS A PIECE OF THAT, SO WHILE THE FUNDING IS NOT THERE TODAY, I THINK LONG-TERM THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD KEEP IN OUR MIND AS WE DEVELOP OUR MAIN CORRIDOR, THE MAIN STREET AND INCLUDE THOUGHTS ABOUT LIBRARY IN THE FUTURE. >> TALKING ABOUT THE ROAD -- >> MAYBE ON THE FRONT. YEAH. JUST GENERALLY. YEAH. >> WHAT WOULD THAT DO TO THE HOCKEY RISK? >> AND THE CHAMBER? >> BEING REAL ESTATE GUY, YOU ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS AS YOU GO ALONG, YOU DON'T JUST SAY NO, HARD STOP, YOU DO WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND PUT PIECES OF THINGS TOGETHER. I'M NOT SUGGESTING MOVING THE HOCKEY RISK OR NOT SUGGESTING BUILDING A LIBRARY, I'M SAYING LONG-TERM PLAN SHOULD LOOK AT MAIN CORRIDOR, SHOULD LOOK AT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY AND HOW TO MAKE IT BETTER. >> YEAH, I THINK -- HAVE LIBRARY IN VISION, PROBABLY DON'T PLAN TODAY AND DESIGN TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER, CARTER, I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID, I THINK WITH LONG MAIN STREET WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS LEADING EXISTING PARKING LOT AND EX EXISTING HOCKEY RISK. THERE IS SUBSTANTIAL SPACE YOU ARE NOT CHANGING OR SPENDING MONEY ON TODAY. THAT IS THE WHOLE THING. IF IT WERE PART OF FUTURE PROJECT THAT WOULD BE LOCATE LIBRARY THERE, RELOCATE HOCKEY RISK, ADJUST FOR PARKING, YOU ARE NOT HAVING TO BULLDOZE SOMETHING YOU BUILD FIVE OR 10 YEARS AGO AT THAT STAGE, RIGHT? RISK, WE LEARNED, YOU LEARN YOU DON'T SHUT IT DOWN, MOVE IT SOME PLACE ELSE, THEY LOSE A SEASON, HAVE TO BE RELOCATED WITHIN THE PARK SOMEWHERE AT SAME TIME YOU ARE DOING THIS, THIS IS LONG-TERM, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE MAY EVER SEE BUT I THINK SINCE WE'RE PAPER DOLLING AND DISCUSSING WE OUGHT TO THINK ABOUT WHAT OUR MAIN CORRIDOR LOOK LIKE AND HOW TO IMPROVE THAT LONG-TERM AND WE DO HAVE A LIBRARY. >> LET'S MOVE FROM THAT CONVERSATION, JAMES, PICK UP AND GIVE US DIRECTION ON PAPER DOLLING. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT NUMBERS ON THE SCREEN, 1.6 MILLION HIGHER, WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS ABOVE YOUR 5.1 MILLION BUDGET AND WE BROUGHT IT UP ON SCREEN HERE. I THINK TODAY'S EXERCISE SHOULD ALLOW US TO GET CLOSER TO THE 5.15 MILLION NUMBER AND BIG TICKET ITEMS THAT MAY NOT BE LIKE AMPHITHEATER, FIELDS, OUTDOOR SPLASH PAD, HAVE COST IMPLICATION THAT COULD BE BIGGEST SAVINGS. WE CAN'T TAKE 1.595 MILLION NUMBER OUT YOU NEED TO DIRECT US WITH THAT. THAT IS FIRST THING. SURVEY WAS CLEAR ABOUT SHADE, ABOUT SPECIFIC AMENITIES AND WE ADD EVERYTHING WITH COMMUNITY THERE PLUS SHOWED IT HERE IN FORMAT, BACK TO FRONT START WITH YOU, MAYOR AND LOOK AT LARGER TICKET ITEMS. CHRIS, DO YOU HAVE COST? >> JUST PULLED IT UP, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW GREATEST MAGNITUDE [00:45:04] IT IS THE PLAYGROUND, IT IS 649,000. NONCIRCULATING WATER FEATURE THEE94,000, IT IS THE PARKING -- >> WHAT WE DID ON PRICING, PRICED IT PER SPACE, WE CAN ADJUST THAT, THAT HAS 48 SPACES, IF YOU WANT TO REDUCE 48, WE CAN FLUCTUATE THAT. >> TO BE CLEAR -- RIGHT, TO BE CLEAR THIS PARKING LOT IS SHOWN FOR GRAPHIC IT IS TO REMAIN. THE IDEA THERE -- >> IT IS JUST THIS GUY HERE. >> ENTIRE 48 SPACES IS 286. THE, THIS AMPHITHEATER WE REDUCED DOWN TO STAGE AND FIELD WAS GOING TO SERVE AS SEATING. IT IS BASICALLY STAGE WITH COVER AND ELECTRICAL AND THAT COST IS 273. >> AND KEEP SOME OF THE AREA FOR LIKE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OR CHANGES (INAUDIBLE) -- NOT GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT, THEY WILL SERVE THEIR PURPOSE AND MULTI PURPOSE FIELD FOR KIDS OR DIFFERENT ACTIVITY. THEY ALSO HAVE -- TO THE FUTURE. >> SEEING ALSO, THESE ARE RECTANGLE, IT WILL BE TREES, LANDSCAPING, WALKWAY. THAT IS NOT SHOWN HERE WE'RE LOOKING AT TICKET ITEMS. YOU CAN DO THE MATH IN YOUR HEAD. >> SPEAK TO THE FUTURE, AS WELL, TALKING ABOUT PICKLEBALL AND BASKETBALL COURT, IF WE REMOVE ONE THERE WOULD BE SPACE LEFT BESIDE IT TO PUT ONE IN THE FUTURE. >> GO THROUGH THERE. PICKLEBALL. >> BASKETBALL COURT, WE'RE REMOVING ONE BASKETBALL. >> TAKING ONE OUT? >> NO, HERE. >> THERE ARE TWO IN THERE. 207. REMOVING JUST ONE. >> MINUS ONE. >> 207 IS MINUS WOB? >> MINUS ONE. >> MINUS A PICKLEBALL COURT, ONE PICKLEBALL COURT IS $83,000. >> SO LEFT WITH 166, JUST TO GIVE IDEA. >> ESTIMATE HAS HOW MANY? THREE OF THEM? >> IS THAT BETTER? >> BUILT IN ESTIMATE HAS THREE PICKLEBALL COURTS TIMES QUESTION, TOTALS 249,000. JUST TELL ME, WE'LL GO. >> TWO PAVILION, LARGEST SHADE STRUCTURE, CONSIDER THIS ONE HERE AND ONE IN THE MIDDLE. >> HERE? WHAT IS THAT FOR E? >> ONE IS 182. >> PUT IT HERE IF THAT IS OKAY. >> SO NEXT ONE IS IMPORT A BUNCH OF SOIL, WE HAVE BEDIRMS THAT GO THIS WAY. THAT SAVINGS WOULD BE 176. >> MINUS BURM. >> A SWELL ALLOW FOR DRAINAGE TO GO FROM PICKLEBALL COURT ROUGHLY OUT TO PLAN -- >> TO GET TO THIS LOCATION. THIS IS THE SWELL? >> YEAH, IT RUNS ALONG THIS WHOLE SIDE HERE. >> IC TAS THE SWELL THIS WAY. >> WHAT WAS THAT PRICE? >> 176, SO IN BERM, MINUS 176. SCOMBL THAT TYPE OF GROUND WORK HAS TO HAPPEN, THAT IS NOT NEGOTIABLE ITEM. >> BALANCE THE -- (INAUDIBLE) >> GOT IT. OKAY. UPON >> IF WE DON'T IMPORT, WE SAVE 176 BY USING SITE WITHIN CURRENT BOUNDARY OF IT. THAT IS GREAT. [00:50:01] >> YOU DON'T SEE IT ON THIS ONE, YOU CAN SEE IT ON THIS ONE, THE TRAILS. IT WOULD BE REMOVING ALL TRAILS BACK THERE AND SOME TRAILS HERE BECAUSE THEY WERE SOME RE REDUNDANCIS THERE. $ $61. >> WE HAVE 7 -- REMOVING 14. >> NET OF 6000 TOTAL, WHAT IS THAT TOTAL? >> 140, ABOUT THEIR 62. >> KEEP 6000 JUST TO SAY THAT -- >> UM, SMALLER NATURAL PLAYGROUND HAS ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT NATURAL -- IN IT. >> GO AHEAD, YOU ARE GOOD, I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE DOING WITH THE TRAIL. >> WHAT HE WAS SAYING, REDUCTION OF COST THERE ARE TRAILS THAT ARE NOT NEEDED THROUGHOUT THE PARK AND 1400 LINNAR FEET, TOTAL 104,000, YOU WOULD BE LEFT WITH 6000 FEET THROUGHOUT THE PARK. >> ULTIMATELY -- >> LOOK AT THIS PLAN HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE CONNECTIVITY PROVIDED AND REDUNDANCY THEY ARE DISCUSSING HERE. NO NEED TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL TRAIL. >> THE DOG PARK IS WHAT IT DOES. LET >> THE TARGET IS -- >> THIS WOULD BE NET SAVINGS. >> STILL HAVE 6000. >> I GUESS THIS IS -- >> REMOVE 1400 DOWN HERE. >> PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING TO THE NORTH, THERE IS SOME RED REDUNDANCY, SO WE WOULD STUDY SERVICE POINT TO MAKE IT MOST EFFICIENT. THROUGH THE BASEBALL FIELD, DESIGN TO CONNECT TO THE SCHOOL AND RUNNING DOWN THE WEST PROPERTY LINE. >> YES. >> THE RESTROOM HERE. RESTROOM HERE AND RESTROOM HERE EXISTING. >> IF WE LEAVE THE REDUNDANT TRAIL WE SAVE 100,000? >> NO, TAKE OUT 1400, LEAVE 60'S00, SAVE 104,000. THAT CAN BE REPURPOSED AND YOU SAVE $104,000. >> YOU CAN REORGANIZE THOSE. >> IN THE BRID WITH 104 COMING OUT TO BE CLEAR, YOU WOULD END WITH 6000 LINEAR FEET OF TRAIL SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE PARK. >> CONCLARIFICATION, THIS IS ONE OF YOUR OPTIONS, JUST TO CLARIFY, ONE OF YOUR OPTIONS TO ADJUST TO COME CLOSER FROM THE AVAILABLE BUDGET. SO THIS IS NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL EXERCISE, THIS IS ASHGSZ -- ADJUSTMENT AS OPTION TO CUT A LITTLE DOWN TO CLOSER TO 5.1 MILLION. >> SHADE STRUCTURE AND SMALLER BENCH LOOKING AT ONE NEXT TO THE PARKING AREA, RIGHT THERE, JAMES. THAT IS EXISTING RESTROOM, SMALLER ONE AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN ONE BETWEEN THE TWO TENNIS COURTS. >> WE HAD FOUR OR FIVE SCATTERED THROUGHOUT. THEY ARE SMALLER SHADE STRUCTURE SAYS, THEY ARE 30,000. WE HAVE PAVILION TYPE SHADE STRUCTURE AND WE HAVE A BENCH INCORPORATED WITH THE SHADE, WE HAVE FITCH SCATTERED THROUGHOUT, EACH IS ABOUT -- >> UH-HUH. >> AND THEN -- >> YES. LAST TWO IS JUST REFRESH OF LARGER AND SMALLER DOG PARKS. 17 AND 7 RESPECTIVELY. >> LARGE DOG PARK IS 17,000, JUST REFRESH. >> KEEP ING FENCING THERE, JUS REFRESHING IT. >> STILL ADDING SHADE STRUCTURE. >> SMALLER ONE IS 7200. >> STILL ADDING SHADE STRUCTURE, THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE REMOVING SHADE STRUCTURE FOR THOSE. >> YES. >> THOSE ARE 30,000, AS WELL? >> IN THE DOG PARK. >> LARGER SHADE STRUCTURE. >> I DON'T REMEMBER, I THINK WE DID LARGER ONES. I THINK LARGER ONES. >> WHAT WAS NUMBER, 182? [00:55:04] >> WE DON'T HAVE THAT ITEM. >> IT IS 182. >> THESE ARE WO 182. >> WHEN YOU SAY LARGE SHADE STRUCTURE HOW MUCH SEATING? >> 30 FEET BY 60 FEET, 1800, SIX PICNIC TABLES WHAT WE'RE THINKING. >> ONE IN EACH DOG PARK? >> YES. >> THAT SEEMS LIKE A LOT. >> WE JUST NEEDED A BASE. SGLL WE WANT SHADE NO DOUBT, 1800 SQUARE FEET IS PRETTY SIZEABLE. >> YOU GO FROM 182,000 DOWN TO 30,000. >> SAVING BETWEEN 1000 RIGHT OFF THE BAT. >> YOU CAN PUT BIGGER SIZE IN THERE IF YOU WANT TO INSTEAD OF HAVING TWO OR THREE PEOPLE UNDER SHADE STRUCTURE, YOU CAN HAVE FOUR TO SIX. THESE ARE LOCATED INSIDE BOUNDARY OF THE DOG PARK, RIGHT? THERE IS PLANNED SHADE STRUCTURE OUTSIDE THE DOG PARK IN THAT ARC OR IS THAT THE PAVILION? >> ITEMH HERE IS AMPHITHEATER STAGE. >> OKAY. >> IF I CAN INTERJECT WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOG PARK AS YOU COMMENCE WITH YOUR PLANNING EXERCISE, THERE HAS TO BE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY TO PARKING LOT, WE DID TALK ABOUT TRAILS, THERE WILL HAVE TO BE SOME OPTION OF CONNECTIVITY CORRECT ALONG THERE AND BACK TO REITERATE WHAT COUNCIL RAISED IN TERMS OF PAVILION SHADE STRUCTURE WITHIN THE DOG PARK, SHADE IS IMPORTANT, IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THAT SIZE, CORRECT. >> HOW MUCH ACCESS EXIST TODAY? THERE IS ALREADY SIDEWALKS THAT ACCESS BOTH AS WELL AS CONCESSION STRUCTURE WITH RESTROOMS BACK UP IN THERE, AS WELL, ARE WE REUSING THAT AS PART OF THIS >> INTENT IS TO KEEP STRUCTURE AND REDUCE AMOUNT OF PAVING TO TURB TURN IT BACK INTO PARK. THAT IS THE REFRESH. CONNECT FROM HERE TO HERE AND INTO THE PARK. YOU CAN GO TO LARGE OR SMALL RESPECTIVELY. >> THAT PARKING LOT ALREADY EXIST, THAT IS WHAT I'M ASKING. >> EFFECTIVELY MAKE IT A SIDEWALK THAT WOULD CONNECT THAT FACILITY AND HARD SURFACE WOULD GO AWAY, MAINTAIN SLIVER INNEN 22 EIGHT OR 10 FOOT WIDE WALKWAY. >> GOT IT. >> THAT IS OVERFLOW FOR GAMES FOR FIELD AND BACKSTOP AREA AND NO LONGER NEED TO BE NEEDED. FENCE WOULD GO UP TO AND CONNECT. >> SO OPTION E, CONCEPT E, THAT IS THE ONE THAT IS 1.6 MILLION; CORRECT? >> 1.59308, YES, SIR. >> DO WE HAVE PRICING ON EVERYTHING? PRICING ON BOTH COURTS? >> COURTS ARE STAYING, TENNIS COURTS DO NOT GET DEMOED. >> GOT IT. YOU TALKED ABOUT REFUR BISHMENT TO DOG PARK, TO BOTH COURTS AND HOCKEY RISK OR -- >> WE HAVE FUNDS WE DO HAVE FUNDS FOR THE HOCKEY RINK BUT NOT FOR THE TENNIS COURT. >> MAYOR JEFF WINGET: SO THERE IS FUNDS ALLOCATED TO REFURBISH THE TENNIS COURT, GOT IT. >> DO YOU WANT TO PEN A NUMBER JUST FOR THEM TO SEE, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE WAS MONEY ALLOCATED? >> ABOUT 250. >> 250, OKAY. >> MAYOR JEFF WINGET: TO REFURBISH THE HOCKEY RINK, THAT'S OKAY. >> I WILL CALL IT REFURB THEN, MAYOR. IF THAT IS OKAY. AND THAT IS IN THE TOTAL NUMBER. BUT IF YOU CALL 250 OUT OF 195. >> IF WE WANT TO KEEP THE FUNDS DEDICATED TO THE HOCKEY RINK, IT WILL NOT BE ADJUSTED. IF THE 250 IS AGREED TO, THEN IT WILL STAY. >> WHAT DOES REFURBISHING A HOCKEY RINK ENTAIL? >> WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS, THE CITY OF ROWLETT AND [INDISTINCT] TO DETERMINE WHAT THAT MEANS. >> THINK OF THE ACTUAL BOARDS, THINK OF THE ACTUAL SURFACE, SAFETY TO AND FROM. ACCESS TO IT CHANGING IN THE WINTER TIME WHEN YOU HAVE ACTIVITIES AND SEASONAL EVENTS. POSSIBLE LIGHTING UPDATES, THINGS THAT -- >> I'M SURE WE'RE ALREADY THINKING ABOUT THAT, AT THAT POINT WE'D WANT TO ENGAGE THE ASSOCIATION AND GET THEIR INPUT AS WELL. >> TODAY WE'RE PART OF -- WE'RE PART OF THE COMMUNITY EVENT ON SEPTEMBER TENTH AND VERY VOCAL AND THERE WAS CONSENSUS I BELIEVE IF ANYONE IS HERE FROM THOSE FOUR GROUPS THAT IT WAS [01:00:03] CONSENSUS JUST THAT THEY ALL LIKED THAT IDEA. AND THAT'S WHY THE PARKING LOT REMAINED AND JUST A LITTLE BIT OF WORK, THERE HE IS. THUMBS UP. THAT WAS GOOD. SO THAT WAS SOME OF THE INTENT AND THAT'S WHY WE SEE SOME OF THIS EFFORT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TWO DOTS WHY SOME OF THE PLAY ACTIVITIES FOUND THEIR WAY TO THE FRONT, TO KEEP THAT CONSOLIDATED FROM A SAFETY AND SECURITY STANDPOINT TO MORE OF AN OPEN FEELING. CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THEN OF COURSE REFRESHING THE DOG PARK. KEEP -- TRYING TO KEEP AS MUCH OF THE EXISTING AS WE ACTUALLY CAN TO PROVIDE THOSE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE PARK. >> WHAT ABOUT, THERE IS THREE SEPARATE RESTROOM FACILITIES ON SITE ALL OF THEM WOULD BE REFURBISHED AS PART OF THIS? >> THAT IS CORRECT THERE'S ONE UP IN FRONT IN THE NORTH CENTER, THE MIDDLE OF THE LINO AND THEN REAR CONCESSION RESTROOMS THAT WOULD BE RECONFIGURED. >> COULD YOU GIVE ME A ROUGH ESTIMATE OF WHAT THAT WOULD COST TO REFURBISH THEM. NOT THAT I'M ESTIMATING TO TAKE THEM OUT BUT IT'S PART OF THIS NUMBER THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. I KNOW IT'S NOT INEXPENSIVE. THERE IS SUBSTANTIAL WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. I HAVE SEEN THOSE. >> I THINK IT MAY BE BEST MAYOR IF WE COULD SUGGEST ON THOSE TO CREATE AN ALLOWANCE FOR THAT WITHIN THE BUDGET SO YOU GUYS COULD DETERMINE AND MAYBE PART OF WHETHER YOU FINISH THEM ALL OR NOT IT COULD GIVE YOU SOME IDEA GOING FORWARD TO SAVE YOUR CRITICAL MASS RESTROOM NEEDS IN PLACE. A RESTROOM AT A DOG PARK MAY NOT BE AS CRITICAL AS THE ONE IN LINO AND IT MAY DEFINITELY NOT BE AS CRITICAL AS THE ONE HERE SO FOCUS WHERE YOU WANT THE EFFORTS IN TO YOU CAN MEET THE DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PARK. >> THE THREE THINGS I HAVE WRITTEN DOWN IS REDUCING THE DOG PARK SHADE STRUCTURE IN SIZE. SO COUNCIL, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT, FROM THE ONE THAT COSTS 182,000 TO THE ONE THAT COSTS 32,000 SO THAT SAVES US ABOUT 150 PER DOG PARK. THAT GIVES US 300K. >> 30K. >> ANY OBJECTION TO SMALL? DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED COUNT ON HOW MANY PEOPLE VISIT THE DOG PARK OR WHAT SORT OF LEVEL OF ACTIVITY THERE IS. I HAVE BEEN THERE A HANDFUL OF TIMES AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF FOLKS THERE BUT I'M NOT THERE ALL THE TIME. >> IN THE DAYTIME, THE MORNING TIME WHEN IT'S COOL SO I BET THERE'S NO MID DAYS. I'M BETTING THOUGH IF [INDISTINCT] MAY SHOW UP. >> FOR USAGE WITH THE APARTMENTS AROUND HERE. >> WILLOUGHBY TREES IN THE DOG PARK TREES INSIDE THERE? >> RIGHT NOW, THE INTENT IS TO REPLANT WHERE WE CAN THE ARBOR ASPECT AS FAR AS THE GREEN CITY TREE CITY APPROACH. I WILL LET THEM SPEAK. >> THANK YOU, JAMES. ALSO KEEP IN MIND WE HAVE A REFORESTATION FUND. AND SO ONCE WE HAVE MORE SPECIFICITY IN TERMS OF AMENITIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE PARK, WE CAN THEN START ADDRESSING HOW TO UTILIZE THOSE TREES AND HOW WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY SURVIVE AND WHERE THEY NEED TO BE LOCATED AS WELL IN TERMS OF SPECIES, IN TERMS OF IRRIGATION, OR TEMPORARY IRRIGATION OR WHAT HAVE YOU. WILL I HAVE YOUR AUDIENCE, COUNCIL I. DO WANT TO MAKE A POINT AS YOU START LOOKING AT THE BUDGETARY IMPLICATIONS OF THESE AMENITIES, THE TENNIS COURT REFURBISHMENT IS NOT IN THE COST SO WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT TOO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY AS WELL. >> MAY I ASK YOU A QUESTION? IF WE REDUCE THE SHADE STRUCTURES DOWN AND WE GO FROM THE LARGER ONE DOWN TO THE SMALLER ONE THEY'RE ONLY FIT MAYBE THREE PEOPLE ONE OR THREE PEOPLE SITTING ON ONE BENCH. IS THAT ENOUGH SPACE? >> I DON'T THINK SO. >> IS THERE A MID-SIZE OPTION? >> THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING THIS UP? A SIX TO EIGHT PERSON TYPE SHADE STRUCTURE WE'LL FIGURE OUT THE COST FOR THAT. ♪ MY QUESTION THERE IS IF YOU COULD GET 1:30 K STRUCTURE THAT HOLDS THREE TO FOUR PEOPLE OR A MEDIUM SIZED SHADE STRUCTURE THAT COSTS 100,000 BUT ONLY HOLDS SIX TO EIGHT LET'S DO TWO OF THE SMALLER ONES WITHIN THE SPACE, EACH ONE WHATEVER GIVES US THE MOST BANG FOR OUR BUCK FOR CAPACITY THERE. >> FOR DESIGNING DOG PARKS WITH SHADE STRUCTURES WE TALKED ABOUT PICNIC TABLES EARLIER [INDISTINCT] SHADE FOR THE PEOPLE THERE [INDISTINCT] THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY DON'T PICK UP AFTER THEIR DOGS. >> THE TREES ARE PART OF THE OVERALL CONCEPT, THAT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE SHADE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT SO WE COULD PROPERLY SITE THEM PUT THEM IN THE RIGHT SPOT SO THEY COULD ENCUMBER LESS [01:05:02] OF THE PARK AND SPEND LESS MONEY BUT STILL GET THAT PROPER FED A LOT OF TIMES YOU'LL SEE THEM DOING A COMBINED SHADE STRUCTURE FOR A SMALL DOG OR A LARGE DOG IN ONE CENTRAL AMENITY MAYBE IT OCCURS BACK WITH THE EXISTING STRUCTURE TO CONNECT WITH IT SO THOSE ARE OPTIONS WE COULD LOOK AT. I'M SURE THAT THEY ARE NODDING AS MAYBE THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE. >> THAT GIVES US SOME WIGGLE ROOM THERE. THE SECOND THING I HAVE ON MY LIST S THE SHADE STRUCTURE. WE HAVE A PORTABLE STAGE THAT YOU COULD USE CURRENTLY THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE DON'T EVENTUALLY NEED A FIXED SHADE -- NOT SHADE, STAGE STRUCTURE IN THIS PARK, BUT I DON'T THINK TODAY IT'S AN IMMEDIATE NEED IN THIS PARK BECAUSE WE HAVE THE MOBILE STAGE TO PUT IT WHEREVER WE WANT WITH FLEXIBILITY, THIS PARK INCLUDED. >> I WOULD STICK A PEDESTAL AND KEEP SOMETHING THERE JUST TO PLUG INTO IT. SO THAT'S $273,000 PAD PUTTING ALL THAT BACK IN, CHRIS [INDISTINCT] SO REALLY THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE PAD COST, 273? SO THAT CAN JUST FLY AWAY? OKAY. [INDISTINCT] OKAY. >> I SAW SOME HEAD NODS, BUT LET'S MAKE SURE THERE'S GOOD CONSENSUS AROUND THAT. COUNCILOR, ARE WE OKAY WITH NOT HAVING THAT STAGE STRUCTURE AT THE PARK? >> AS LONG AS WE STUB IN FOR ELECTRICAL AND FUTURE. PAD AND ELECTRICAL. >> WHATEVER, PAD AND POWER WOULD BE HERE. >> THAT GIVES US ANOTHER 270. >> WILL RECAP VERY QUICKLY. WE'LL GO FROM 30 TO A 50 WHERE WE TAKE IT DOWN FROM THE LARGER NUMBER OF THE THREE. >> SO FOUR OF THE 30S INSTEAD OF [INDISTINCT] >> SO 4--- FOUR 30, SO TWO IN EACH. >> I WILL DO THIS OVER HERE. WHAT WE HAVE DONE, AND I WILL SET THIS DOWN HERE. IS THERE ANOTHER ONE OF THESE GUYS? CAN I GET TWO OF THEM? WE'LL GO LIKE THIS. SO ON THE LARGE DOG, WILL HAVE SHADE STRUCTURE ONE AND SHADE STRUCTURE TWO AND THESE ARE 30,000 EACH. SO THERE'S TWO TOTAL IN THE LARGE DOG. AND WE HAVE SAID THAT IT'S 17K TO REFRESH THE LARGE DOG. THEN WE WILL GO OVER TO THE SMALL DOG AND WE WILL PUT TWO SMALL STRUCTURES HERE EACH AT 30KI WILL JUST CALL THIS A SMALL SHADE STRUCTURE IF THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENTS AND THIS WAS A $7300 REFRESH -- 17K REFRESH. I'M TRYING TO WRITE AS FRESH AS I -- AS FAST AS I CAN HERE. AND THIS IS THE SMALL SHADE STRUCTURE HERE. SO YOU'VE GOT TWO, SO THAT IS 120,000 PLUS 17, THEN 139, THEN 100462 SO WE'RE JUST A LITTLE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS LEFT TO GO. -- 1462 SO THERE'S A LITTLE OVER A MILLION LEFT. >> IF WE COULD JUMP IN WITH SOME RECOGNITION [INDISTINCT] WE UNDERSTAND IT'S A HUGE DEAL FOR THE COMMUNITY WE KIND OF WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE WATER FEATURE HERE, ITEM G AND THEN THE PARKING BEHIND CITY -- CHAMBER, SORRY. IF WE TAKE THOSE TWO ITEMS, THE WATER FEATURE IS $394,000 AND THE PARKING, ALL PARKING SPACES AT THE 48 IS 286,000. >> AGAIN IF WE WERE TO ADD ANY OTHER PARKING IN THERE, WE ADJUST THAT DOWN? >> THERE MIGHT BE MORE COST EFFECTIVE PARKING WE COULD COME UP WITH. >> WE JUST DID IT FOR SPACE. >> THERE'S OTHER OPTIONS WE COULD CONSIDER OR WE COULD HAVE A SMALL STRUCTURE, CORRECT, CORRECT. >> TALKING ABOUT THAT TAKING ONE PICKLEBALL DOWN FROM THREE TO TWO WE KNOW IT'S A HUGE COMMUNITY ITEM SO WE DON'T WANT TO START HITTING SOME OF THE BIGGER ITEMS THAT FOLKS WANT. [01:10:07] >> THE DISCUSSION IN THE COMMUNITY SESSION WAS THAT THEY HAD SOME SORT OF PLAY ELEMENT, BUT THEN THEY DECIDED NO SPLASH PARK BUT THEY WANTED SOME SORT OF WATER ELEMENT SO WE KIND OF GAVE THEM AN ALLOWANCE OF AROUND 350 SO WITH MARKUPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND DESIGN [INDISTINCT] >> NOT IN FRESH WATER. >> WE TOOK AWAY MORE OF THE DUMP BUCKET STYLE, THE FEATURES THAT YOU COULD RUN THROUGH AND IT'S MAINLY JUST THOSE ONE YOU COULD WALK TO SO WE REDUCE THAT ONE QUITE A BIT FROM OUR PREVIOUS MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 30TH. >> IT WAS ALSO CHANGED TO MORE OF AN ON DEMAND SO IT WON'T BE RUNNING IF THEY HIT IT. WILL PUT THOSE ON FOR A MOMENT AND THEN THE WATER GOES BACK IN AND GETS RECIRCULATED THROUGH THE PARK WOULD NOT GET REUSED. >> I WOULD LIKE TO RAISE A QUESTION THAT HAS NOT BEEN DISCUSSED ON THAT PARK BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE MAYBE -- I. HAVE BEEN THAT ADVOCATE SAYING WE SHOULD PUT SOMETHING IN FRONT OF THE PARK UP THERE WHICH IS NOT BEEN IN DISCUSSION AT ALL. WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT INCLUDE TAKING OUT PART OF THAT FRONT PARKING LOT, MAYBE WE WOULD PUT IN THE USE OF THIS PARKING LOT OVER HERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLANS OR DISCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN ABOUT THAT. I'M STILL TRYING IN MY MIND TO MAKE IT A VERY VISUAL ENTRANCE INTO THIS PARK WHICH WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE HERE UNDER THIS [INDISTINCT]. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH SPACE IS OUT NOW BETWEEN THE PARKING LOT AND MAIN STREET. I'VE BEEN THE ADVOCATE TO SAY LOOK, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING DONE AS AN ENTRANCE POINT INTO THIS PARK THAT REMINDS US THAT THIS IS HERFORD PARK THIS IS MY ADVOCACY ON THAT SO THAT WAS A TAKE OUT PART OF THAT PARKING LOT MAYBE MOVE IT TO THE OTHER SIDE WHICH AGAIN IS A DISCUSSION. >> ONE OF THE THINGS IT'S A GOOD POINT TO MAINTAIN AS MUCH AS WE COULD, RECOGNIZING THAT WE ARE IN A POSITION OF DEFICIT MAYBE THAT'S ONE OF THE FUTURE PLANS I THINK WHAT WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH TODAY IS THE HARD CUTS THAT MAKE THE EVIDENCE TO GET US DOWN TO THE 5150 AND THEN WHAT COULD WE DO TO ENHANCE THE AREA WHETHER IT'S A GATEWAY A LANDSCAPE AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR OBELISK DESIGN SO THOSE ARE THINGS WE COULD WORK ON TOGETHER AS A GROUP THESE ARE SOME PRETTY BIG TICKET ITEMS. >> I GET THAT, MY ONLY POINT BEING IF YOU LEAVE ALL THIS SPACE UP FRONT CURRENTLY WHAT HAPPENS IS IT BECOMES A DEMO PART LATER FOR US TO CONSIDER AS FAR AS ADD ONS WHICH IS SOMETHING I'VE NOT REALLY BEEN A FAN OF UP AND RUNNING AS A PARK AND THEN WHEN WE DEMO THINGS ALONG THE WAY IT'S KIND OF LIKE THIS IS PRETTY PLAIN FOR THAT AND I LIKE THE PARKING LANE TO -- LOVE THE PARKING LANE TO THE SIDE OVER THERE IF YOU COULD ADD MORE PARKING TO THE [INDISTINCT] PAVILION THERE AND UP TO THE LEFT THE CHAMBERS YOU HAVE PARKING THERE RIGHT NOW IF YOU WERE TO TAKE UP PART OF THE PARK IN THE FRONT AND THEN PUT SOME DENSE LANDSCAPING IN THERE TO SAY THAT THIS IS REALLY HERFURTH PARK AND THEN USE THE PARKING TO THE LEFT AGAIN MY ONLY THOUGHTS ARE AND I DON'T DISAGREE AND THIS IS A POINT TO CUT COSTS CERTAIN PLACES BUT I WAS NEVER IN FAVOR OF TRYING TO SAY LET'S GO AND DO SOME DEMO WORK A YEAR FROM NOW OR TWO YEARS FROM NOW OR FIVE YEARS FROM NOW LET'S PUT IT AT SOME KIND OF A LANDSCAPE UP FRONT. I WOULD LIKE TO FIND -- US TO FIND A WAY TO RAISE MORE MONEY THAN THERE IS TO SLASH EVERYTHING OUT AND START DOING DEMO WORK TWO YEARS FROM NOW OR THREE YEARS FROM NOW. >> IF I COULD JUST ASK A QUESTION MAYBE I MAY BE CORRECTED BUT THERE'S ALSO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CHURCH ACROSS THE STREET TO KEEP BEING PARKING IN PROXIMITY FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT WE HAVE TO AT LEAST REPLACE AND KIND SOME OF THAT BUT MAYBE THAT IS FUTURE PROOFED. >> ON THIS CONCEPT, WE DO ACKNOWLEDGING THAT IT'S ON A MAIN STREET -- >> LET'S GET HER MICROPHONE. >> VISIBILITY TO IT. WE DO HAVE SOME RECOGNITION OF THAT BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE PARKING THERE'S A GOOD AMOUNT OF SPACE THERE SO WHAT YOU ARE SEEING HERE IS POTENTIAL FOR AN ALLEY OF TREES IF WE HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING. A SIGNAGE AND THEN CERTAINLY LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT FRONT DOOR OF THE PARK IN PROXIMITY TO MAIN STREET THAT IS BUILDING OFF OF THE SHADE STRUCTURE WHICH COULD HAVE REALLY GREAT CONNECTIVITY TO THE HOCKEY RINK WHICH IS UNIQUE TO YOU ALL, SO THAT IS PRESENTED HERE AND THEN THE IDEA WOULD BE A WORK TO IT IF THE MONEY IS AVAILABLE. >> I APPRECIATE THE SENTIMENT. I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS. WHAT FOR ME STICKS OUT IS THAT WHEN WE HAD THE PAPER DOLL SESSION AND THE FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM THE COMMUNITY WAS CRYSTAL CLEAR IN MY MIND. AND IT WAS NOT LIMITED BY BUDGET BECAUSE WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT BUDGET UNTIL AFTER. WE GAVE EACH OF THE FOUR GROUPS A BLANK SLATE SAYING THAT IF YOU COULD MAKE HERFURTH PARK LOOK LIKE ANYTHING HERE'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY, AND THEY HAD ALL THE PIECES TO LOOK AROUND AND ADD ON ALL OF THAT, EVERY [01:15:02] SINGLE GROUP KEPT THAT PARKING LOT THERE. TO ME, THAT WAS CRYSTAL CLEAR MESSAGING FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY ARE OKAY WITH THAT. MAYBE THAT'S NOT A LONG TERM SOLUTION, BUT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE GOING BACK TO VOTERS AND ASKING FOR MORE MONEY AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DELIVERED ON THIS PARK YET AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT CONVERSATION TO HAVE UNTIL THAT HAPPENS. >> AND I WILL APOLOGIZE FOR THE QUESTION. I WAS NOT CLEAR ON THE TREES. WE HAVE A REFORESTATION FUND THAT HAS GOT A PRETTY GOOD BALANCE. MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS IN THE CURRENT SCOPE AS FAR AS NEW TREES BEING ADDED AND COULD WE SUPPLEMENT THAT WITH EXISTING? >> I'M GOING TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WITH THE SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION FIRST. ABSOLUTELY, WE CAN SUPPLEMENT WITH REFORESTATION FUND. I NEED WHAT BASED ON WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN IN THE PLANS HERE VERY SCHEMATIC ILLUSTRATIVE LANDSCAPE COMPONENT OR ELEMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, SO I CANNOT DEFINITIVELY SAY ON CENTER HOW MANY TREES WE WILL HAVE AND WHAT SPECIES, BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY PLANNED LANDSCAPING. >> AGAIN, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO RECONCILE. >> I CAN'T GIVE YOU QUANTITY OF TREES, WE DO HAVE $250,000 ALLOCATED FOR PLANTING AND THAT COULD BE A NUMBER OF TREES, IT COULD BE SHRUBBERIES. UNTIL WE HAVE THAT CLEARLY DEFINED, THERE IS ADDITIONAL FUNDS OUTSIDE OF WHAT IS ALLOCATED IN THIS PROJECT TO BRING IN ADDITIONAL TREES. >> TO YOUR POINT, IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY AND LOOK AT IT, THE LIGHT JUST WENT OFF IN MY HEAD, THE BLUE PIN COULD BE THE GATEWAY INTO THE PARK WHERE YOU COULD ACTUALLY ALMOST A VERY VISUAL ALLEY THAT DRAWS YOU INTO THE PARK IN THAT GATEWAY. >> IF YOU COME OFF MAIN STREET THERE IS A LINE OF TREES THAT GOES TO THIS SHADE STRUCTURE E AND THAT IS WHAT [INDISTINCT] WAS TRYING TO SAY. >> I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, CARTER. THAT KIND OF DOES GIVE THAT. THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS TO A POINT. AND YOU SAID, IT TOOK A BIT I'M A BIT SLOW ON THE UPTAKE BECAUSE I COULD SEE THIS PATHWAY IS THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR. >> ABSOLUTELY THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE SOME FORM OF A VISTA OR POSSIBLY A [INDISTINCT] VISTA BASED ON WHAT YOU WERE SAYING SO WE COULD USE THAT TO CREATE THAT ENTRY FEATURE WHETHER IT'S A PEDESTRIAN ENTRY FEATURE A SIDEWALK AND PARALLEL PARKING STREET YOU'RE ALREADY ACCOMMODATING FOR THAT MECHANISM. >> I THINK THE POINT THAT CARTER IS TRYING TO MAKE BY WEARING THE SCARLET LETTER OVER THERE -- >> WE ALREADY HAVE $250,000 -- >> RIGHT, THAT'S 250K THAT'S IN YOUR BUDGET THAT WE MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR IN THE REFORESTATION FUND THAT WILL COME FROM A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE THAN THE CAPITAL FUNDS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY IDENTIFIED. OKAY, FROM WHAT I HAVE HEARD I THINK FROM YOU GUYS, LET'S TRY AND GET THIS PLANE CLOSE TO THE GROUND. YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS REALLY TO TAKE UP THE WATER FEATURE AND WHEN YOU SAID PARKING, YOU GAVE US $600,000 NUMBER AND THIS IS A $200,000 NUMBER AT. HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE. >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 600K WHEN WE WERE AT THE SEPTEMBER 30TH MEETING? >> NO, JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO WHEN YOU WERE TALKING WE HAD A MILLION DOLLAR GAP AND YOU SAID THE WATER FEATURE AND THEN 600K IN PARKING GETS US BASICALLY WHERE WE NEED TO BE. >> IT IS THIS PLUS THAT. >> OH,, 600K IN TOTAL. SO WE'RE STILL WITH THE 400K GAP. >> THIS IS BASICALLY SITTING AT SEVEN. >> SO NOW WE'RE AT 150K GAP. >> THIS IS A LITTLE OVER 700. >> CORRECT. >> WHAT ABOUT THE PARKING YOU HAVE RIGHT THERE WITH YOUR HAND, WHAT IF WE REDUCE THAT TO TEN IN THE CHAMBER AND THAT CROSSWALK? >> WE COULD UPDATE THAT RIGHT NOW AND LET YOU KNOW. AT 48, IT WAS 286,000. NOW IT'S 200, 198. SO YOU KEEP TEN. >> SO IT'S A $226,000 DEDUCTION IF YOU KEPT TEN SPACES FROM 48. ♪ THAT'S $56,000 [INDISTINCT] >> TEN SPACES. >> ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR THE COMMERCE YOU HAVE TWO SPACES CURRENTLY. IS PART OF YOUR OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE MORE PARKING FOR THE CHAMBER BUILDING? >> THE CITY OWNS THE BUILDING. >> RIGHT, BUT ARE YOU REQUIRED TO PUT MORE PARKING VERSUS STREET PARKING OR COULD THEY SHARE THE PARKING THAT'S HERE VERSUS ADDING ON PARKING? [01:20:02] >> I DON'T THINK -- PERHAPS YOU COULD ANSWER THIS BETTER FROM A PARKING REQUIRED STANDPOINT, BUT WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING ABOUT THE SITE SO THERE'S NO PARKING REQUIREMENT PER SE, RIGHT? >> THERE IS NO PARKING REQUIREMENT PER SE. WE'RE NOT ALTERING THE SITE, WE'RE NOT ENHANCING IT. WITH THE EXISTING CONDITIONS WE ARE OKAY. IF WE WANT TO ENHANCE ACCESSIBILITY FROM A PARKING STANDPOINT FOR THE CHAMBER THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTION. >> WHEN WE HAVE A CHAMBER OF [INDISTINCT] SOMETHING IN THE EVENING, BUT TYPICALLY USE THE SPOT OVER HERE TO PARK. >> I WOULD JUST POINT OUT THE TYPICAL COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE IS WORTH PER THOUSAND SO IF THAT'S 1000 SQUARE FEET, THAT IS FOUR PARKING SPOTS. SO WE HAVE TO ALLOW FOUR PER THOUSAND PROBABLY [INDISTINCT] FOR PARKING. THAT SPACE IS CURRENTLY USED BY ROWLETT HIGH SCHOOL AND IT SHOULD NOT BE. IT'S DANGEROUS FOR THE KIDS TO CROSS OVER A FREEWAY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PARK ON THE PREMISES. SO THAT PARKING LOT NEEDS TO COME BACK INTO DISCUSSION FOR CITY USE INSTEAD OF >> THE ONLY THING YOU TALK ABOUT SPACES DON'T FORGET THEY HAVE SPACES TO THE WEST OF THE BUILDING I'M SURE THERE'S AT LEAST FOUR ALREADY THERE WHERE THE CHAMBER IS EXTRA PARKING IS WHAT THE CHURCHES USE IS. >> THAT'S [INDISTINCT] SPACES. >> THERE'S SPACES IN THE FRONT TWO ON MAIN STREET. PRETTY SURE THEY'VE GOT ENOUGH SPACES. >> IT SOUNDS TO ME THE ONLY WAY WE'D GET DOWN THAT MILLION BOX IS TO GET DOWN THAT PARKING LOT UNLESS THERE'S SOME BRIGHT IDEA TO GET ALMOST 300K BACK. >> I THINK PARDON THE PUN, IT'S A PARKING LOT WE COULD PUT DOWN THE ROAD FOR AN ALTERNATE. IN A MASTER PLAN. BUT FOR TODAY TO SHOW THE FAITH OF GETTING YOUR NUMBER I THINK I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK THESE TWO ITEMS NEED TO BE SHUFFLED OFF THE PAGE. >> COUNCIL? >> THESE ARE ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT CAN BE THOUGHT ABOUT FOR THE FACING IN TERMS OF FUTURE FACE. WE NEED NO MORE -- WE NEED MORE PARKING NOW THAT THE PARK IS MORE UTILIZED THAN WE COME UP WITH THE SPACES AVAILABLE AND THEN WE COULD ADD PARKING AS A SEPARATE PHASE. >> PARKING IS SOMETHING [INDISTINCT] >> SOMETHING ELSE TO REMEMBER IS AS WE PRICE IT BECAUSE I WANT TO REITERATE WHAT WAS SAID, THESE ARE RAW PRICES, SO AS WE GET BETTER PRICING AND THINGS LIKE THAT WE CAN MAKE SOME OF THESE ITEMS ALTERNATE, IF THERE'S MONEY IN THE BUDGET, WE'RE BACK IN. >> WE ARE FOCUSED ON THINGS RIGHT NOW THAT IS OUTSIDE THE PLAY ELEMENTS. WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT PICKLEBALL COURTS BASKETBALL COURTS, PLAYGROUND. WE WANT TO FOCUS ON THINGS THAT DOES NOT REMOVE FROM THAT ELEMENT OF CITY FOLKS THAT THE RESIDENTS REALLY WANT TO HAVE IN THE PARK. SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT REMOVING THE ENTIRE PARKING? DID EVERYONE AGREE ON REMOVING THE WATER FEATURE FROM THE PARK AS WELL? >> I'M PUTTING ALL THREE HERE SO FAR. >> 1.2 SAVINGS, THAT'S ABOUT 364 LEFT. >> WE HAVE ABOUT 250 FROM THE LANDSCAPING REALLOCATION OR THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT WOULD COME FROM THERE. >> I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD REMOVE THE ENTIRE 251,000. >> WHEN WE SAY REMOVE, I MEAN WE WILL! SUBSIDIZE. >> AUGMENT OUR FUNDING WITH THE 250 SO IT CLOSES THE GAP. >> THESE THREE ITEMS ARE SITTING ON THE SIDELINES RIGHT NOW. YES, SIR. AND THEN THE OTHER REDUCTION WHICH INCLUDED YOUR NUMBER TO BE CLEAR WHICH IS GOING FOR 30K EACH IT'S 120. 17 AND 72 SO WE REDUCED IT FROM THE ORIGINAL. WHAT WAS THE REDUCTION? >> 277. >> RIGHT NOW AS OF ON THIS PAGE IT'S 364 IF WE INCLUDE THE 250. >> IT'S 114. >> 100K. OKAY, DID WE CONSIDER IT THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE SIDEWALK? >> WE HAVE NOT, WHICH WOULD BE 100K? >> THIS 100 4K. >> LET'S GET YOU A MICROPHONE. I'M SORRY. >> FOR THE 100K THAT IS LEFT, WE DID NOT ACCOUNT FOR THE SITUATION OF THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE SIDEWALKS. IF WE DO, THAT'S A 100K. [01:25:04] >> WE ARE BASICALLY WHERE WE NEED TO BE. LET'S TALK ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ALTERNATE ITEMS, OUT OF THOSE THREE THINGS THAT ARE OVER THERE THAT WE HAVE TAKEN AWAY, WHAT IS THE ORDER OF PREFERENCE, COUNCIL, WOULD IT BE PARKING LOT, WATER FEATURE, STAGE? OR WOULD IT BE WATER FEATURE, PARKING LOT, STAGE? >> WATER FEATURE FIRST. >> WATER FEATURE FIRST WATER FEATURE FIRST. WATER FEATURE FIRST. MARVIN? OKAY, SO THE ORDER OF THE ALTERNATE ITEMS WOULD BE WATER FEATURES FIRST THEN THE ADDITIONAL PARKING LOT THEN THE STAGE STRUCTURE. SO IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL FUNDING OR YOU GUYS RIGHTSIZE SOME OF THIS STUFF AND GET IT FIGURED OUT AND SUDDENLY WE HAVE AN EXTRA 300K, WATER FEATURE IS THE FIRST THING TO ADD BACK. >> WE NEED TO ACCEPT THE TRAILS REDUCTION. >> TO ACCEPT THAT, KEPT WITH 6000. >> THIS WOULD BE THE ORDER OF PRECEDENCE TO GO BACK INTO THE PROJECT IF WE HAD THE FUNDS. >> IF I COULD ADD SOMETHING IN THERE, THERE'S PICKLEBALL HERE THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT. WE HAVE TWO YOU COULD REDUCE IT DOWN FROM THREE UNTIL TWO WITH SAVINGS THREE AND THROW IT INTO YOUR ALTERNATES. >> WHEN WE SAY THREE PICKLEBALL, THAT'S THREE COURTS THAT PEOPLE COULD PLAY ON, SO I PERSONALLY THINK WE NEED ALL THREE. I KEEP HEARING DEMAND FOR PICKLEBALL LIKE CRAZY. >> SO SCALE WISE ONCE WE GET TO IT FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT IS AT SCALE AND YOU WERE TO ADD THREE MORE, THAT'S 249,000. THAT IS LESS THAN WHAT THIS IS TWO SO IF YOU HAD A CHOICE TO ADD MORE PICKLEBALL COURTS OR THE SPLASH PAD YOU WOULD HAVE THE AMENITY ALREADY. SO THOSE ARE DECISIONS YOU COULD MAKE ONCE YOU SEE WHERE THE NUMBERS WILL FALL DOWN. >> WE HAD PICKLEBALL CURRENTLY BEING PLAYED ON THE TENNIS COURTS. SO [INDISTINCT] >> THERE WAS SOME TALK TO AS FAR AS EXPANSION OR FUTURE PROOFING. SO AS YOU'RE PUTTING IT IN IF YOU COULD GROW SOME OF THESE AND PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO, IS THAT NUMBER SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE INCLUDED KIND OF THE FUTURE PROOFING OF CONDUITS OR LIGHTING OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL? >> I WOULD SAY THE SPACE IS AVAILABLE. I WOULD NOT SAY THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN OUR NUMBER TO DO THAT THOUGH. >> WE KNOW INFRASTRUCTURE IS INCLUDED RIGHT NOW. IT'S JUST AREA ALLOCATIONS. >> ONE THING HERE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER, CURRENT TENNIS COURTS ARE NOT IN THE COST ESTIMATE FOR ANY IMPROVEMENT OR REFURBISHING SO IF WE WERE TO PUT THAT AS AN ALTERNATE SOLUTION OR SOMETHING THAT BRINGS BACK AS THE BUDGET COMES BACK, I THINK DO YOU WANT TO RANK THAT INTO THIS. >> FOR RESTORATION. >> DOES IT REPLACE ONE, TWO, OR THREE. >> FOR ME IT'S ONE, TWO OR THREE. >> THAT'S JUST MY VOICE. LET'S HEAR FROM EVERYBODY. WHERE WOULD THIS GO IF YOU WERE TO SLOT IT IN TO THAT LIST? >> WHAT'S THEIR CURRENT CONDITION? THERE'S NO SURFACE ON IT. >> ESSENTIALLY JUST PAINTED CONCRETE. >> RESURFACING. >> IS THERE A LOT OF TENNIS USAGE UP THERE? >> I HAVEN'T HAD MUCH TENNIS USAGE THAT HAS COME TO ME. FOR HOW MANY THAT ARE COMING OUT THERE BUT PICKLEBALL. >> I'M JUST ASKING THE EXISTING CONDITION AND WHEN YOU SAY REFURBISHING, ARE YOU SAYING YOU WOULD PUT A SURFACE ON TOP OF THAT, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING? >> IT WOULD NOT BE A SURFACE ON TOP OF IT, RESURFACING TENNIS COURTS USUALLY IT'S A SPECIFIC PAINT THAT GOES OVER IT TO RESURFACE IT TO GET IT BACK TO IT SO IT'S NOT A CONCRETE WORK. >> THE COST RESURFACE THE TENNIS COURT IS ABOUT $10,000. >> SO WHERE WOULD THAT BE IN OUR LIST OF PRIORITIES? >> I THINK IT'S STILL BEFORE THE STAGE. >> THREE, CARTER? THREE? >> TENNIS COURT SURFACING IS 40K IN TOTAL. >> MARVIN, ARE YOU GOOD WITH NUMBER 3? IT WOULD BE NUMBER 3. >> I'VE GOT A QUESTION THOUGH, THE SPACES IN BETWEEN THE TENNIS COURTS IF YOU'RE GOING TO UPGRADE TO CONCRETE. >> RIGHT NOW WE HAVE REMOVAL OF THE ASPHALT OR PRESSED CONCRETE WHATEVER IS THERE RIGHT NOW AND THEN PUTTING SOD BACK WITH A SHADE STRUCTURE. >> SO THE PARKING IN THAT LOCATION SO THERE WOULD BE PARKING. >> THAT'S KIND OF THE POINT I RAISED EARLIER ABOUT THERE BEING PARKING THERE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW TO GET TO THIS TENNIS COURT NOW YOU'RE WALKING FROM THIS LOT. TO GET TO THAT TENNIS COURT YOU WALK FROM EITHER ON STREET [01:30:04] PARKING OR THIS OTHER LOT WHICH IS A PRETTY GOOD HIKE ACROSS THE PARK BECAUSE YOU NO LONGER HAVE THE PARKING ADJACENCY. IF THEY ARE REQUIRED FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT TO CONNECT THAT ROAD INTO THIS OTHER DEVELOPMENT, THEN YOU COULD DO ON STREET PARKING THERE I WOULD THINK, IF THERE IS SPACE. >> CORRECT, THERE COULD BE ON STREET PARKING THERE. >> THAT'S A PARALLEL, IT'S NOT AN ANGLE THIS IS A PARALLEL JUST SEEING TO WHAT YOU HAVE UP HERE. >> CORRECT. SO YOU COULD HAVE SOME PARKING THERE. >> COULD BE THAT INSTEAD OF THIS. >> YOU COULD SPLIT IT UP. TEN AND TEN YOU COULD SPLIT IT UP. >> IF YOU GET IT THERE AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT RUNNING THE CONNECTION THROUGH. >> WHAT'S THE TIMING OF THAT REQUIREMENT? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED DAY ONE. OR IS [INDISTINCT] FOR FIRE, FOR LIFE SAVING? >> I DON'T THINK THERE IS A SECONDARY CONNECTIVITY ISSUE THERE BECAUSE THERE'S AMPLE CONNECTIVITY TO MAIN STREET AND TO PGBT, QUITE FRANKLY. SO I DON'T BELIEVE EVEN THE REGULATING PLAN REFLECTED CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN CENTENNIAL -- I. BEG YOUR PARDON, THAT'S NOT CONTINUAL, BUT BETWEEN THE PARK AND THE MULTIFAMILY. THERE WAS SOME FORM OF ACCESS WHETHER IT WAS PEDESTRIAN, TO ENSURE THE PARK IS UTILIZED FOR THE RESIDENTS. IF WE DO CREATE THAT HAMMERHEAD OR WHATEVER WE DO AT THAT POINT YOU COULD DO PARALLEL PARK. >> THE REASON WHY I ASK IS THIS IS ALREADY INSTALLED FOR PARALLEL AND THEY HAVE NO WAY TO TURN AROUND FOR FIRE VEHICLES. SO I THINK IF YOU WERE ABLE TO COME THROUGH AND HAMMERHEAD WOULD GO BACK OUT OR YOU WERE TO CONNECT YOU WOULD GAIN SOME SHARED PARKING DRIVING THROUGH THE FIRE LINE. JUST TO BE CLEAR ON THAT. >> I'LL PROVIDE AN OPTION HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PARKING WE DO HAVE ANOTHER ITEM THAT WOULD HELP PUT PARKING BACK IN IN THE NATURAL PLAYGROUND AREA THE NATURAL PLAY NOTES, IT'S 73,000 SO WE COULD TAKE THAT OUT AND PUT SPACES IN. >> YOU'RE SAYING EXCHANGE THE NATURAL PLAYGROUND FOR PARKING AND CONNECTIVITY AT THIS LOCATION HERE. >> YES. >> NOT THAT FORM. >> YOU COULD PUT SPACES THERE YOU COULD PUT A COUPLE OF SHARED SPACES HERE THE IDEA HERE IS TO TAKE ONE ITEM AND EXCHANGE IT FOR PARKING AND WE COULD WORK OUT THE DETAILS ON WHERE THAT GOES LATER. >> IT'S LIKE A SMALLER PLAYGROUND. >> THE THREE NODES. THIS WOULD BE A NATURAL ALTERNATE IF WE'RE JUST SAYING WHAT YOU CAN DO BECAUSE THIS IS PRIMARY NEED YOU COULD RUN HERE TO CONNECT AND GET YOUR PARKING IN THERE STILL GET YOUR SHADE STRUCTURE UP HERE BUT YOU ARE BISECTING YOUR EXISTING TENNIS COURTS. >> ARE WE GOOD TO GO WITH THIS ITEM? WE NEED TO WRAP THIS UP, JAMES. WE HAVE A LOT OF AGENDA ITEMS. ARE WE GOOD WITH THAT IDEA TO TAKE AWAY THE NATURAL PLAYGROUND WHICH GIVES US ADDITIONAL PARKING? SO IF WE WERE TO SLOT THAT BACK IN, WHERE WOULD IT GO IN THE ORDER? ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, OR FIVE? BEFORE THE AMPHITHEATER, NUMBER 4? >> SLIDE THIS TO FIVE? >> THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING, ANY OBJECTION? SO NATURAL PLAYGROUND WOULD BE NUMBER 4. WATER FEATURE NUMBER 1 PARKING NEXT TO THE CHAMBER'S NUMBER 2. WHAT WAS NUMBER 3? >> 40,000K, SO 10,000 PER QUART. >> 10,000 FOR REFURBISHED TENNIS. >> THEN YOU HAVE THE NATURAL PLAYGROUND. >> 273 IS NUMBER 5. THAT SHOULD GET US PRETTY CLOSE TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE. LET'S SEE WHERE THAT GOES. COUNCIL, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? LET'S RETURN TO OUR SEATS. TO TAKE IT WITH YOU? >> WE TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS SO WE'LL DO OUR WORK WHEN YOU GUYS GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> WE WILL DO THAT HERE WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM WHICH IS THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND THEN WE'LL DO THAT. >> THANK YOU. [3.B. Receive a presentation regarding the Animal Shelter site selection process. (Part 1of 2)] APPRECIATE THAT. THAT CONCLUDES ITEM THREE A. NEXT WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 3B. RECEIVE A PRESENTATION REGARDING [01:35:04] THE ANIMAL SITE -- ANIMAL SHELTER SITE SELECTION PROCESS. >> MAYOR COUNCIL THIS IS THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION WILL BE TO REVIEW SOME OF THE COMPLETED WORK ON THE PROJECTS AS WELL AS A LITTLE BIT OF RECAP ON THE AVAILABLE FUNDINGS AND SOME OF THE HISTORY, TALK ABOUT SITE EVALUATION AND ANALYSIS AND THE APPROACH THAT WAS TAKEN OR STARTED ON THE SITE EVALUATION OR SITE SELECTION, AS WELL AS REALLY TO GET TO THE DISCUSSION WHERE WE ARE SEEKING COUNCIL'S DIRECTION FOR THE NEXT STEPS FOR FINDING FINAL SITE RECOMMENDATION. SO SOME OF THE FUNDING AVAILABLE FUNDING OVERVIEW, THERE WAS A PART OF THE PURPOSE 2023 BOND, PROPOSITION B, AT $8.4 MILLION APPROVED AND ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER. THERE WAS $5.4 MILLION OUT OF THAT THAT WAS ALREADY ISSUED. IT IS AS YOU SEE THE BREAKDOWN, IT WAS ISSUED IN TWO STAGES, 1,000,000 IN 2023 AND 4.4 MILLION IN 2025. THERE IS A REMAINING OF $3 MILLION YET TO BE ISSUED THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED AS PART OF THE 8.4 MILLION AND ANTICIPATED TO BE ISSUED OR RELEASED FY27 AND READY TO USE IN FY28. SO CURRENT FUNDING AVAILABILITY AS IT STANDS TODAY AND BEFORE THE $3 MILLION RELEASE IS AT $4.7 MILLION. SPENDING TO DATE AS YOU COULD SEE HERE THE BREAKDOWN OF THE REMAINDER WHICH IS $177,000 IN PREVIOUS DESIGN EXPENDITURES AND A 550K ASSOCIATED WITH OR A COMMITMENT OR BASICALLY AN ENCUMBRANCE FOR THE ADMIN NUMBER FOR DESIGN SERVICES AUTHORIZED FOR [INDISTINCT] WALKER EARLIER THIS YEAR. SO SOME OF THE HISTORY RELATED TO THIS PROJECT IN MAY OF 2023, VOTERS AUTHORIZED THE 8.4 MILLION UNDER PROPOSITION B IN JULY OF 2024, [INDISTINCT] WALKER ENGAGED THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING SERVICES. IN MARCH OF 2026, COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO EVALUATE ALTERNATE LOCATIONS BEYOND HERFURTH PARK. BETWEEN JUNE AND JULY 2026, COUNCIL AUTHORIZED SIZE STABILITY, -- SUITABILITY WORK AND THAT WAS TO THE ZERO APPROACH. FUNDING RECEIVED. AND THEN SEPTEMBER 15TH OF 2026 COUNCIL APPROVED UP TO 550K IN DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE FINAL DESIGN. THE FINAL SITE WAS NOT APPROVED AND THEN SEPTEMBER 20TH -- SEPTEMBER 22ND OF 2026 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF REZONING. OCTOBER TO NOVEMBER 2026 NOISE ASSESSMENT IS IN PROGRESS TO INFORM FUTURE SITE DECISIONS. PRELIMINARY FACILITY PROGRAMS AND JUST A REFRESHER OF THE FACILITY, ELEMENTS THAT WERE TO BE CONSIDERED IS ANIMAL INTAKE AND ADOPTION, THE LOCATION WITH THE FENCING, DOG HOUSING, INDOOR AND OUTDOOR ACCOMMODATIONS CAT HOUSING, DEDICATED SPACES FOR A CAT. THE SERVICES AND EXERCISE AND OUTDOOR PLAY AREA AND STAFF OPERATIONS OR ADMIN SPACE. SO REGARDING SITE SELECTION PROCESS, THERE WAS A PROGRESSIVE SCREENING ANALYSIS THAT WAS CREATED OR BASICALLY AN APPROACH THAT WAS CREATED. IT STARTS WITH A PRECEDING -- PRESCREENING WHICH IS A CITY WIDE SEARCH THAT HAD LOOKED AT OVER 151 CANDIDATES PARCELS OR LOTS. THEN THE SIZE THAT -- SITES THAT WERE PAST THE PRESCREENING -- THAT PASSED THIS PRESCREENING WERE GRADUATED TO GO TO TIER ZERO WHICH IS THE INITIAL VISIBILITY OR SHORT-LIST REVIEW. AND THEN THAT SHORT LIST THE [01:40:01] OUTCOME OF THE TIER ZERO WOULD MOVE TO THE NEXT YEAR WHICH IS TIER ONE THEN TWO AND TIER THREE WHICH IS WITH THE FINAL SELECTION WHEN IT HAPPENS. SO THE SITE ASSESSMENT CRITERIA LOOKED AT SOME OF THE MAIN FACTORS WHICH ARE FIRST SITE SITE FEASIBILITY IN TERMS OF SIZE, CONFIGURATION WHETHER IT'S BUILDABLE IF THERE IS DRAINAGE, FLOODPLAIN, CONFLICTS AS WELL AS ANY FISCAL CONSTRAINTS. THE SECOND WAS OPERATION SO LOOKING AT IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE AVAILABLE SPACE FOR CONFIGURATION TO ACQUIRE THE HOUSING ADAPTION AND THEN PUBLIC ACCESS AND VISIBILITY -- FLEXIBILITY FOR THE THIRD ELEMENT THAT WAS ALSO CONSIDERED IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE AVAILABILITY SO WHETHER THERE IS ROAD CONNECTIONS, UTILITY ACCESS, CIRCULATION AND FACILITY SUPPORT SERVICES. THERE IS ALSO THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY THAT WAS LOOKED AT IN TERMS OF THE PROXIMITY TO SENSITIVE USES, THE NOISE CONSIDERATIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR BUFFERING AS WELL AS THE COST AND OWNERSHIP WHICH WAS ONE OF THE MAIN ELEMENTS THAT WAS LOOKED AT IN THE PAST LAND ACQUISITION AND THE CITY OWNED ASSETS BEING PRIORITIZED. SO IN THE PRESCREENING PHASE THAT WE MENTIONED THE CITY WIDE LOT SURVEY WAS DONE OR BASICALLY LOOKING AT EVERY POSSIBLE PROPERTY OVER ALMOST A TOTAL OF 150 LOTS WERE LOOKED AT FOR PRELIMINARY REVIEW. THE SITES INCLUDED VACANT, UNDERUTILIZED, AND CITY OWNED PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CITY OF ROWLETT. SPECIFIC ADDRESSES OR LOCATIONS CAN BE MADE AVAILABLE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, SHOULD COUNCIL CHOOSE TO EXERCISE THIS OPTION, WE HAVE THAT READY. AND THEN POTENTIAL OPTIONS FROM HERE OR THE SCREENING AT THE PRESCREENING WERE EITHER CONSIDERED TO MOVE FORWARD OR JUST SOME OF THEM WERE IMMEDIATELY DEEMED NOT BEST TO TAKE FURTHER. SO WITH THE SHORT LIST OR TIERED APPROACH OR TIER ZERO, THERE WERE 20 LOTS IDENTIFIED. AND BY SAYING LOTS, IT'S NOT 20 SITES, SOME OF THESE GOT CONFIGURED IN COMBINATION OF LOTS THAT MADE A TOTAL OF FIVE SITE CANDIDATES. SO TOTAL OF FIVE SITES WERE BASICALLY SHORT-LISTED FROM THE PRESCREENING AND I JUST WANT TO, AS I SAID, JUST ITERATE HERE THAT NOT ALL OF THE LOTS TOOK THE SAME LEVEL OF ANALYSIS, SOME OF THEM WERE JUST EXCLUDED BASED ON FACTORS THAT WERE CLEAR THAT IT WAS NOT GOING TO BE SUITABLE. FOR TIER ONE, THESE FIVE SITES PLUS ONE BASED ON THE CITY'S REQUEST AND RECOMMENDATION WHICH WAS SCHRADE ROAD WAS ANALYZED TO MOVE FORWARD UNDER THE TIER ONE APPROACH. SO SITE ONE AND FIVE UNDER THAT APPROACH GOT EVALUATED AND THE REASON WHY THEY WERE PRIORITIZED AND EVALUATED BECAUSE THEY WERE CITY OWNED PROPERTIES. SITES TWO AND THREE WERE NOT ADVANCED BECAUSE OF SOME LOCATION CONSIDERATIONS AND CONFLICTS. SITE FOUR WAS PUT ON HOLD WITH SOME CONSTRAINTS, BUT FOR POTENTIAL FEASIBILITY TO BE CONSIDERED IN THE FUTURE. AND THEN SITE SIX WAS CITY OWNED SCHRADE ROAD WHICH WAS BASED ON CITY PREVIOUS DIRECTION IS TO BE USED FOR FOCUSED FURTHER EVALUATIONS. SO FURTHER ANALYSIS THAT WAS REQUESTED BY COUNCIL AND A FOLLOW UP THE DISCUSSIONS THAT THE CITY WILL BE HAVING AS EXISTING AND NEXT STEPS IS THE NOISE STUDY. SO THERE IS A NOISE STUDY THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING CONDUCTED. THAT NOISE STUDY IS TAKING EFFECT AT SCHRADE ROAD AS WELL AS CREATING A MODULE FOR USING SOUND LEVELS FROM OUR EXISTING FACILITY, ANIMAL FACILITY, TO BE ABLE TO USE FOR MODELING PURPOSES TO COMPARE FOR OTHER FUTURE SITES FOR ANALYSIS. THERE IS SECOND TIER WHICH WILL DO THE TECHNICAL DUE DILIGENCE. THIS WILL HAVE MORE IN-DEPTH APPROACH BASED ON THESE SELECTED SITES. IF WE GO TO TIER TWO WE WILL HAVE SITE VISITS. WE WILL LOOK AT TOPOGRAPHY, DRAINAGE, EASEMENTS NEEDED. ANY ENVIRONMENTAL CONSTRAINTS AND ANY PERMITTING REQUIRED. AND THEN IN TIER THREE THERE WILL BE A COMPARATIVE ASSESSMENT [01:45:01] WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT EVALUATION OF SITE SUITABILITY COSTS, WE ARE CREATING COST ESTIMATES WE'RE COMPARING OPERATIONAL NEEDS, NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT, ET CETERA. SO THE CURRENT NOISE STUDY THAT IS IN PLACE, WHAT IS THE SCOPE OF THAT NOISE STUDY? SO WE AS I HAD MENTIONED EARLIER, EXISTING SHELTER IS KNOWN TO BE ACTUALLY IT GOT BASICALLY MEASURED AND IT WAS COLLECTED NOISE DATA WAS COLLECTED JUST RECENTLY OVER THE WEEKEND AND THAT EFFORT GOT STARTED WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT THE EXISTING SHELTER TO CREATE SOME MODELING TO BE ABLE TO USE AGAINST IN FUTURE SITES AS WE LOOK AT OTHER SITES. THERE IS ALSO A COLLECTION OR BASICALLY A NOISE COLLECTION THAT WAS DONE AT SCHRADE ROAD IN RESPECT TO THE AVAILABLE FIRE STATION IN A CLOSE PROXIMITY TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT DATA AS WELL AS FOR THAT SPECIFIC LOCATION. SO FOR OTHER CANDIDATES AS I SAID, WE WILL USE THE DATA COLLECTED ON THE EXISTING AND USE THE PREDICTIVE MODELING TO BE ABLE TO COMPARE AND CREATE INFORMATION FOR THOSE OTHER SITES SO THE PROCESS THERE'S AN ANTICIPATED AROUND SIX WEEK PROCESS IN TERMS OF GETTING ALL OF THE REPORTS. MODELING TAKES MORE TIME SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THE DATA COMPLETED AND COLLECTED BETWEEN ONE AND TWO WEEKS BUT IT WILL COMPLETE DEFINING THE MODELING AND GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS. SOME OF THE SITE SPECIFIC MEASURES THAT WOULD BE EVALUATED AS PART OF THIS TECHNICAL BASIS IN THE FINDINGS THAT WE GET SO WE LOOK AT NOISE AND BUFFERING, WE WILL LOOK AT IT FROM THE BUILDING ORIENTATION ANY SETBACKS, SCREENING REQUIRED, AND LANDSCAPING. AND ANY POTENTIAL ACOUSTIC TREATMENTS. WE WILL ALSO BE LOOKING AT ANIMAL WELFARE SO REPLACEMENT DESIGN ON ANIMAL HOUSING NOW FOR THOSE AREAS WE LOOK AT SITE OPERATIONS SO HOURS AND MANAGEMENT OF NOISE GENERATING ACTIVITIES AS WELL AS ANY DELIVERIES WITH SERVICES. THERE IS ALSO TRAFFIC AND LIGHTING AS PART OF THE ANALYSIS WHICH IS PART THE ACCESS CIRCULATION PARKING, SERVICE AREA AND LIGHTING, NEAR NEIGHBORING USES. SO THESE WILL BE OUR EVALUATION CONSIDERATIONS. FOLLOWING THE NOISE STUDY DATA. SO ANIMAL ARTS, WE HAVE HEARD OF ANIMAL ARTS BEING BROUGHT UP AS THE EXPERT OR THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE A REVIEW OF THE SPECIFIC LOCATION OVER SCHRADE ROAD AND THE FIRE STATION RELATIONSHIP OR ADJACENCY. THE CITY HAS ASKED ANIMAL ARTS TO DO THE REVIEW. ANIMAL ARTS HAVE SENT A MEMO THAT WE RECEIVED ON FRIDAY OCTOBER THE 16TH THAT SPEAKS% ABOUT THESE DIFFERENT AREAS OF ANALYSIS IN TERMS OF THE SCHRADE LOCATION. THEY MENTIONED ANIMAL WELFARE, EMERGENCY SIRENS, AIRHORNS, AND STATION ALERTS MAY INCREASE STRESS, AGITATION, AND BARKING AMONG BARKING SHELTER ANIMALS THEY ALSO TALKED ABOUT ACOUSTIC MITIGATION SAYING THERE IS POTENTIAL WHICH COULD HAVE ENHANCED WALLS WINDOWS AND DOORS ROOFING AND VENTILATION MIGHT BE NEEDED TO REDUCE NOISE TRANSMISSION ALSO CAN -- KENNEL CONFIGURATION COULD BE DONE DIFFERENTLY THEY SAY INDOOR AND OUTDOOR DOG KENNELS MAY BE SHIFTED TO FULLY ENCLOSED TO REDUCE NOISE EXPOSURE. THEY ALSO TALKED ABOUT COST IMPACTS AND THEY SAID THAT ACOUSTIC UPGRADES AND ADDITIONAL AND THE ADDITIONAL BUILDING AREA COULD INCREASE CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATING COSTS SO ANIMAL ARTS COULD BE FEASIBLE BUT IDENTIFIES COST IMPLICATIONS THAT ARE RELATED TO IT SO OUR NEXT STEP FOR WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE OUT OF THIS ROWLETT MEETING IS TO NOT ONLY GIVE STATUS UPDATE OF ALL THE EFFORTS BUT ALSO GET GUIDANCE ON THE ANALYSIS -- THE ANALYTICAL PATH FORWARD. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR APPROVAL OF ANY SPECIFIC SITE AT THIS STAGE BUT WE ARE LOOKING TO GET MORE CLARIFICATION AND MORE GUIDANCE IN TERMS OF THE SITES TO ADVANCE [01:50:06] AND THE EVALUATION PRIORITIES FOR THE NEXT STEPS OR TO FURTHER ASSIST THE AVAILABLE SITES REALLY WHAT'S NEXT -- THE NEXT MILESTONE IS THAT STAFF SHOULD BE ABLE TO RETURN WITH ADDITIONAL DUE DILIGENCE. AND RECOMMENDATION ON SITES AND WHAT COUNCIL REQUESTS AND RECOMMENDS. THAT LEADS ME TO ANY QUESTIONS. >> MAYOR JEFF WINGET: QUESTIONS. BYRON? >> FIRST OFF, I WANT TO THANK YOURSELF AND THE STAFF. THAT WAS AN OUTSTANDING PRESENTATION. I GOT A CHANCE TO DO A PREVIEW ALSO AND I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT AND I THOUGHT YOU DID A GREAT JOB DOING IT. IT WAS EXTREMELY INFORMATIVE AND HELPFUL AND I THINK BECAUSE OF THIS NOT SURE WHERE THE DECISION WILL FALL SO THEY WILL MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION I THINK THE COMMUNITY WOULD KNOW WE LOOKED AT EVERYTHING AND MADE AN INFORMED DECISION SO THANK YOU FOR THAT AND I WANT TO THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE ADVISORY BOARD TO, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THEY WERE WANTING. SO A VERY, VERY GOOD JOB ON THAT. AGAIN, VERY INFORMATIVE. THERE'S JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT'S NOT IN THE REPORT THAT'S PROBABLY MY INABILITY TO UNDERSTAND OR GRASP. BUT UNDER THE [INDISTINCT] WE'VE GOT 4.7 MILLION OUT OF THE 8.4. >> YES, AVAILABLE TODAY. SO THE 8.4, LET ME GO BACK TO THIS SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE BREAKDOWN SO I DON'T MISTAKE WHAT THE NUMBERS. SO THE 8.4 IS THE TOTAL AUTHORIZED OR VOTED. IT WAS ISSUED IN STAGES, SO SOME OF THE ISSUED FUNDS WAS ALREADY TO DATE, IT'S 5.4. AND SOME OF IT IS ALREADY SPENDING ENCUMBERED WHICH YOU COULD SEE AT THE BOTTOM HERE. THE TOTAL OF THAT WHEN YOU DEDUCT IT FROM THE 5.4, YOU WILL FIND THE REMAINING TODAY 4.7. THAT'S AVAILABLE TODAY. BUT THERE'S ANOTHER $3 MILLION THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED BUT NOT RELEASED YET. IT WAS INTENDED TO BE RELEASED LATER IN 2027. >> YOU SEE, I'M SMARTER ALREADY FOR THAT. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. SO IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT EXTRA MONEY, IT JUST HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED YET. VERY, VERY HELPFUL. ACTUALLY, I HAVE NOTHING ELSE AGAIN. OUTSTANDING JOB. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JEFF WINGET: COUNCIL, QUESTIONS? CARTER? >> I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. FIRST OF ALL TO STAFF, I WILL ECHO COUNCIL MEMBER FASSETT ALTHOUGH THIS MAY BE A RARE OCCASION THAT I ECHO HIS COMMENTS. I AM SO REFRESHED AS A COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE GIVEN THE DATA THAT WE REQUESTED, WE SPOKEN HERE ABOUT SITE SUITABILITY. WE SPOKE ABOUT SITE FEASIBILITY AND WE TALK ABOUT COMPATIBILITY. AND HONESTLY, I WAS LOOKED AT LIKE I HAD A THIRD EYE ON MY HEAD FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION. TONIGHT, IT'S IN YOUR PRESENTATION. WE HAVE MOVED LIGHT YEARS BECAUSE YOU ARE NOW GIVING US DATA TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS. SO FINALLY, I FEEL LIKE AN INFORMED COUNCIL AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF YOU. THAT'S BECAUSE OF [INDISTINCT]. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS PRESENTATION AND FOR THE CLARITY NOW THAT WE CAN GET SOME DIRECTION. THANK YOU. >> SPEAKING OF DIRECTION. SHAHAD MOHAMMED, IF YOU COULD GO TO THE SECOND TO LAST SLIDE IN YOUR PRESENTATION WHERE YOU LOOK FOR SOME DIRECTION. THERE WE GO. SO 4.1 HERE, YOU LOOK FOR WHICH SITES TO ADVANCE AND I'M CURIOUS IF THAT'S WHERE YOU KIND OF MENTIONED GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS SPECIFIC SITES. >> THAT IS RECOMMENDED IN TERMS OF GIVING US CLEAR DIRECTION ON WHAT DO WE FOCUS ON. WE DO RECOMMEND TAKING THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION TO LOOK MORE INTO DETAILS IN DEPTH ABOUT AVAILABLE SITES THAT WERE LOOKED AT AND WE ARE ABLE TO GET CLEAR DIRECTION ON WHAT WE ARE MOVING WITH TO THE NEXT STEP FOR FURTHER ANALYSIS. >> TOTALLY HAPPY TO DO THAT. LET'S FOR THE SAKE OF THE PUBLIC LET'S GET TO THE OTHER TWO POINTS AS WELL. THE EVALUATION PRIORITIES. AND MAYBE THIS IS KIND OF SECONDARY TO NUMBER 1 OR WE WILL DOVETAIL WITH NUMBER 1, BUT WHAT CONSIDERATIONS SHOULD WE BE LOOKING AT, COULD WE BE LOOKING AT, COUNCIL, AND I WILL ECHO MY [01:55:01] COMMENTS OR MAYBE IT WAS THE LAST MEETING OR A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO, WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY WE WON'T GET A LOCATION THAT'S CENTRALLY LOCATED WE WON'T HAVE GREAT WALKABILITY WE WON'T HAVE SOMETHING ALONG 66 AND ALSO AN INDUSTRIAL PARK. WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CHECK ALL OF THOSE BOXES, SO IT'S GETTING THE MOST THAT WE CAN AND PROVIDING THE MOST SATISFACTION WE CAN. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT, BECAUSE I HEARD ONE OF THE SPEAKERS TONIGHT TALK ABOUT CENTRALLY LOCATED AND PEOPLE MAY NOT COME. IT'S INTERESTING TO ME THAT GARLAND'S SHELTER IS ON THE FURTHEST OUTSKIRTS OF THEIR CITY RELATIVE TO, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE GEOGRAPHICAL CENTER OF GARLAND AND THAT GARLAND STRETCHES ALL THE WAY OVER TO 635 AND YET THEIR ANIMAL SHELTER IS NEARLY IN ROWLETT, IT IS INTERESTING TO ME THAT THEY'RE NOT CENTRALLY LOCATED. NOT THAT THAT IS NECESSARILY THE WAY WE SHOULD DO IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BUT IT'S JUST AN OBSERVATION I HAD WHEN THAT COMMENT WAS MADE. SO LET'S THINK ABOUT WHAT PRIORITIES HERE WE HAVE. FOR ME PERSONALLY, THE BUDGETARY PRIORITY HAS GOT TO BE NUMBER 1, AGAIN, I WILL MAKE THE SAME COMMENT WITH RESPECT TO HERFURTH PARK. I HAVE A HARD TIME GOING BACK TO THE PUBLIC AND ASKING FOR ♪ ♪ -- MORE MONEY WE HAVE NOT DELIVERED ON THE PROJECT SITTING IN FRONT OF US THAT HAVE BEEN FOR A FEW YEARS NOW. I WOULD BE HARD PRESSED TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF DOING THAT. OPERATIONAL NEEDS HAVE TO BE PARAMOUNT. WE NEED A SHELTER THAT COULD FUNCTION EFFECTIVELY. THAT COULD CYCLE THROUGH ANIMALS, I HAVE ANIMALS COMING AND GOING. THAT HAS ALL THE RIGHT FACILITIES WITHIN IT FROM A SURGERY BAY TO A GOOD SALLY PORT TO EVERYTHING WE SAW IN THE DIAGRAM, INDOOR OR OUTDOOR SHELTER SPACE, SUFFICIENT SHELTER SPACE MOST IMPORTANTLY AND KEEP IN MIND YOU WILL NEVER BUILD A BIG ENOUGH SHELTER BUT SUFFICIENT AT LEAST AS FAR AS WE UNDERSTAND IT, AND IF WE COULD GET IT AWAY FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD, I THINK THAT IS A NOBLE IDEA. SOUND BUFFERING WILL ONLY GO SO FAR WHEN THERE IS A DOG BARKING ALL NIGHT LONG AND THOSE OF US WHO HAVE LIVED IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THERE'S BEEN A DOG TIED OUT AT NIGHT THAT BARKS ALL NIGHT LONG WE KNOW HOW ANNOYING IT CAN BE. SO I THINK THAT THOSE FACTORS ARE REAL AS WELL NOISE CONSIDERATIONS FOR ME COME BACK TO THE ORIGINAL SITE THAT WAS ENVISIONED WHICH WAS ON MILLER HEIGHTS IN PG SOUTH OF THE HIGH SCHOOL AND AGAIN IF WE CONTINUE DOING OUR FIREWORKS ON MAIN EVENT THERE I DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY ANTICIPATION OF STOPPING, I THINK THAT LOCATION IS A CHALLENGE BECAUSE THE FIREWORKS ARE LITERALLY RIGHT ABOVE WHERE THAT SHELTER WOULD BE. SO THOSE ARE MY PRIORITIES FOR NUMBER 2 HERE, COUNCIL? >> LET ME JUST ECHO THOSE PRIORITIES BECAUSE I THINK THOSE ARE THE SAME FOR ME BUT I WILL ADD ONE OTHER PRIORITY AND THAT IS TO ACT. WE NEED TO ACT ON THIS. I DO NOT WANT TO BE CARRYING THIS INTO FY -- OR NEXT YEAR, IN 27, AND WE'RE STILL TRYING TO CONSIDER WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO. SO YES, MAYOR. THOSE ARE THE SAME PRIORITIES THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT. WE JUST NEED TO ACT. WE NEED TO MOVE OUT ON THIS. >> I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE >> UNDERSTANDING WE HAVE A SURPLUS OF ANIMALS AND I THINK ALSO ONE OF THE NOTES I WAS WRITING WHEN I WAS REREADING THE PACKET OVER THE WEEKEND CHARACTER LAND A BUDGETARY ITEMT BECAUSE OF WHAT THAT MEANS TO THE OPERATIONAL NATURE OF THE ACTUAL SHELTER AND BEING BUILT. WE ARE ALIGNED THERE SO LOOKING FORWARD TO GIVING YOU GUYS DIRECTION IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> EVERYBODY GOOD? OKAY. THEN OBVIOUSLY NUMBER 3, WE WILL NEED SOME GUIDANCE WHEN WE GET TO NUMBER 1. SO COUNCIL, UNLESS THERE'S ANY OBJECTION WE WILL CONVENE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THIS ITEM. WE WILL COME BACK TO WRAP UP ITEM 3B AND THEN WE WILL CONVENE OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS FOR 5A AND FIVE B. A LITTLE BIT OF BOUNCING BACK AND FORTH BUT PURSUANT TO TEXAS [5.Executive Session (Part 1 of 3)] GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551 DOT-- THIS MEETING WILL BE CONVENED TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE ATTORNEY AND REAL PROPERTY DISCUSSION. [INDISTINCT] >> IS THERE AN OPTION FOR US TO CONVENE AN EXECUTIVE SESSIO TO DISCUSS REAL PROPERTY MATTERS WITH RESPECT TO THIS ITEM? TODAY. [02:00:06] >> ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TOPIC THAT'S ON THE AGENDA, YES. >> THAT'S OKAY. OKAY. PERFECT. WE WILL CONVENE THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR ITEM 3B. WORK SESSION ROOM IN A FEW MINUTES AND WE WILL RETURN BACK SPEEMAC ALL RIGHT COUNCIL HAS CONCLUDED OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 8:46 P.M. [3.B. Receive a presentation regarding the Animal Shelter site selection process. (Part 2 of 2)] IT'S 8:47 P.M. AND WE ARE BACK IN OPEN SESSION. CONTINUING ON WITH ITEM 3B. FOLLOWING THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION WE DID HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT FIVE DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER SITE. WE HAVE PRIORITIZED THOSE AND PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION OVER TO STAFF TO WORK WITH ON THE NEXT STAGE OF THE PROCESS. SO WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THOSE FIVE OPTIONS AND EXPLORING WHICH ONES WILL WORK BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND IT WILL MEET ALL THE NEEDS AND PRIORITIES THAT WE FIND AND WE WILL MOVE FROM THERE. COUNCIL, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR UPDATES OR INFORMATION, QUESTIONS ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER SITE SELECTION? OKAY. GREAT. WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE FROM OUR WORK SESSION DOWN TO OTHER EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS SO WE WILL COVER TWO EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS AND THEN COME BACK TO OUR OPEN SESSION AND CONTINUE ON WITH THE GOLF COURSE AND THE OTHER ITEMS. [5.Executive Session (Part 2 of 3)] I'M GOING TO READ THE NEXT TWO ITEMS INTO THE RECORD. ITEM 5A-- PERSONNEL MATTERS. TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT DUTIES OF EMPLOYMENT OFFICER, ITEM 5B, SHALL CONVENED TO CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION, TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT, EVALUATION, DISMISSAL. I WANT TO MENTION ALL THE MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGE THAT PER THE JUDGE'S CONTRACT, WE DO AN ANNUAL REVIEW AND THAT IS SUPPOSED TO TAKE PLACE IN OCTOBER AND IT IS OCTOBER SO HOPEFULLY NOTHING TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT WITH OUR MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGE THERE. WITH THAT, IT IS 8:48 P.M. AND WE WILL CONVENE >> SPEAKER-01: GOOD EVENING WE'RE BACK IN OPEN SESSION WE CONCLUDED THOSE TWO EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS AT 9:41 P.M. IT'S 9:45 P.M. THE FIRST ITEM WAS A THE MUNICIPAL JUDGE ITEM WHICH WAS COMPLETED WITH NO ACTION TAKEN. HOWEVER, THE COUNCIL DID WANT TO THANK OUR MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGE. HE IS DOING A FINE JUDGE. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK HE IS DOING AND IT HAS BEEN, HONESTLY A HUGE RELIEF. IT'S BEEN FANTASTIC. WE APPRECIATE HIS WORK AND LOOK FORWARD TO ANOTHER TWO YEARS OF HIM SERVING AS OUR JUDGE. ON ITEM FIVE BE, WITH RESPECT TO THE CITY MANAGER RECRUITMENT PROCESS, WE DO HAVE FOUR FINALISTS THAT WE WILL BE ANNOUNCING WITHIN THE NEXT, I WILL SAY DAY-TO-DAY AND A HALF. THE CITY WILL BE HOSTING A MEET AND GREET ON THE EVENING OF OCTOBER 29TH, SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO MARK YOUR CALENDAR, WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE COMMUNITY TO COME OUT AND MEET WITH OUR FOUR FINALISTS AND GREET THEM, WELCOME TO THE -- WELCOME THEM TO THE COMMUNITY AND ASK QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK. WE'LL OBVIOUSLY BE SOLICITING FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AS WELL ON WHO THEY RECOMMEND AS OUR NEXT CITY MANAGER AS PART OF THE INTERVIEW PROCESS. THAT CONCLUDES ITEM 5A AND 5B. [3.C. Receive an update from American Golf Corporation on the operation of the Waterview Golf Course. ] NEXT WE'LL MOVE BACK TO OUR WORK SESSION ITEM 3C, RECEIVE AN UPDATE FROM THE AMERICAN GOLF COURT -- 3.C. RECEIVE AN UPDATE FROM AMERICAN GOLF CORPORATION ON THE OPERATION OF THE WATERVIEW GOLF COURSE. AND WE HAVE AMERICAN GOLF TO INTERVIEW THE -- INTRODUCED THIS ITEM, I BELIEVE. >> I AM KYLE RYCKMAN THE PRESIDENT AND CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER FOR WATERVIEW GOLF COURSE. WE HAVE OUR GENERAL MANAGER OF WATER VIEW AS WELL. WE WANT TO SHARE OUR GENERAL ASSESSMENT OF THE CONDITION ON THE GOLF CURSE AND OUR GENERAL FACILITY. WE CONTINUE TO INVEST ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF FROM A GUEST EXPERIENCE THROUGH THE COURSE PERFORMANCE. I MOST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP AND MOMENTUM WE HAD RECENTLY AS WE TRY AND IMPROVE THE GOLF COURSE. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY BE NEWER TO COUNCIL TO TOUCH ON A BRIEF HISTORY OF OUR PARTNERSHIP AMERICAN GOLF HAS MORE THAN 50 YEARS OF OPERATION EXPERIENCE PRIMARILY PRIMARILY IN THE MUNICIPAL GOLF WORLD. WE OPERATE WATERVIEW WITH A LONG TERM LEASE WITH THE CITY OF ROWLETT. AS PART OF THIS WE PAY APPROXIMATELY $250,000 IN ANNUAL RENT. OVER THE COURSE OF OUR PARTNERSHIP, AMERICAN GOLF HAS INVESTED ABOUT 10 MILLION AND PAID OVER JUST -- PAID OFF JUST OVER 2 MILLION. WE'VE ALWAYS VIEWED WATERVIEW AS A GOLF COURSE AN IMPORTANT RECREATION ASSET FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND WE INTEND TO WORK WITH THE CITY, THE HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION, THE RESIDENTS OF ROWLETT AND THE GOLF ADVISORY BOARD. WE APPRECIATE THE COOPERATION WE RECEIVE FROM EVERYONE ON THAT. [02:05:03] WE ALSO WANT TO THANK KING AS WELL. KING HAS MADE A HUGE CHANGE FOR US THIS HAS MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS AND WE APPRECIATE THE WORK HE HAS BEEN DOING. OUR GOALS FOR WATERVIEW MAIN -- REMAIN CONSISTENT. WE WANT TO GROW IT AS A VALUABLE ASSET FOR ROWLETT AND WE ALSO WANT TO PROVIDE A BEST-IN-CLASS GOLF EXPERIENCE WE LOOK TO BECOME ONE OF THE HIGH END DAILY FEES IF PEOPLE LOOK AT THAT WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THIS TO BE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND A PEOPLE AND PLAYERS WE HAVE ESTABLISHED THREE COMPARABLE COURSES AS YOU CAN SEE OUR WATER USE RATES ARE UP HERE WE ARE COMPETITIVE WITH EACH OF THOSE FACILITIES. THE WEEKEND RATE IS 79. ESPECIALLY IF YOU NOTICE WE HAD A BIT OF A HOT SUMMER THIS YEAR SO WE DEFINITELY HAVE SOME COURSE CONDITIONS THAT WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO IMPROVE. THE RAIN WE HAVE HAD AND THE COOLER TEMPERATURES WILL DEFINITELY HELP. WE BELIEVE WE'RE COMPETITIVE WITH MOST IN THE AREA. IT'S A PLACE WHERE EVERYONE HAS THE SAME ISSUES THAT WE DO THE HEAT GETS YOU BUT REALLY OUR GOAL TO CONTINUE IMPROVING THE GOLF COURSE IS EXPERIENCE CONSISTENTLY REALLY IMPROVES THE VALUE OF THE GOLF COURSE HERE. SO SINCE OUR LAST WE WANT TO GO THROUGH WITH THINGS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO. WE ADDED ABOUT $30,000 OF ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT. ONE OF THOSE IS A UNI RAKE D. THATCHER AND WE ALSO ADDED SOME FAIRWAY UNITS. AND WE HAD ABOUT 130,000 INVESTMENTS ACROSS DOING AIR PURIFICATION, TOP DRESSING, TOP DRESSING REPAIR DIFFERENT FERTILIZER TREATMENT APPLICATIONS, THINGS TO REALLY IMPROVE THE FOUNDATION OF THE TURF. A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW PEOPLE EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT WE TRY AND FOCUS TO BUILDING FOUNDATION OF THAT AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE A GREAT PRODUCT MOVING FORWARD. ONE OF THE THINGS WE SEE IS ONGOING DRIVING RANGE IMPROVEMENTS. AS KING WILL TELL YOU, WE PLANTED THE GROW AND SPRAYS AND I THINK THE DAY AFTER IS WHEN WE DID NOT SEE RAIN FOR ABOUT 100 DAYS SO WE HAD A GREAT SPRING FULL OF RAIN AND THEN WE CAME INTO REALLY BAD TIME OF PLANTING RIGHT NOW YOU'LL SEE WE HAD TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS OF THAT BUT IT'S DEFINITELY GETTING BETTER WITH THAT IT'S A GOOD IMPROVEMENT BY THE END WE ALSO HAD SOME TABLES AND CHAIRS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO THE CLUBHOUSE AREA. AND THEN SO FOR LOOKING AHEAD, FOR THE NEXT 12 OR 18 MONTHS SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES WE REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON A COUPLE OF THE THINGS ARE CONCRETE PATH REPAIRS AS EVERY GOLF COURSE OVER THE YEARS HAS FAILED SO WE WANT TO CATCH UP WITH THOSE AND KEEP THEM IN A BETTER SPOT. AND THEN OUR DRIVING RANGE LANDING AREA I WAS OVER THERE WITH KING EARLIER TODAY AND THERE WAS 15,000 SQUARE FEET OF SOD THAT'S CURRENTLY SITTING THERE READY TO BE LAID OUT TOMORROW AND SO TO HOPEFULLY GO THROUGH AND HELP OUR RANGE SO WE'RE ALSO PLANNING A NEW GOLF CART FLEET IN AUGUST 2027. THIS WILL COME IN WE'LL HAVE THE GPS TECHNOLOGY THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO LOCK THE CARTS FOR GOING INTO CERTAIN AREAS WE'LL USE THE COURSES TO HELP GO IN AND CONTROL WE'RE ABLE TO CONTROL A BIT MORE ABOUT THAT ALL THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS WE APPRECIATE THE COOPERATION AND ALL THOSE WHO HELP MAKE IT HAPPEN. SO ONE OF THE MOST ENCOURAGING THINGS WE HAVE SEEN SO FAR AT WATERVIEW IS FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE YOU CAN SEE PERFORMANCE IS STRONG REVENUES INCREASED. WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE COURSE CONDITIONS ENOUGH THAT REVENUE AND DAILY CART FEES HAVE BEEN ABLE TO INCREASE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT 2024 HOUR AVERAGE ROUND IS ABOUT $60 WE INCREASED THAT TO ABOUT 65 AND 2025 AND NOW WE'RE UP TO ABOUT 72. TOTAL REVENUES FOLLOW THE SAME POSITIVE TREND WE FINISHED 2025 APPROXIMATELY 3 MILLION FOR THE LAST 12 MONTHS WE FINISHED ABOUT 3.2 MILLION. BUT WE EXPECT TO FINISH A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN WE DID LAST YEAR AND NOW THAT THE DRIVING RANGE IS COMPLETE AND ONCE THAT'S FULLY GROWN IN FOR NEXT YEAR WE EXPECT TO REALLY SEE IT EXCEED HERE. WE BELIEVE GOLFERS CONTINUE TO RECOGNIZE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE ARE MAKING AND SO WE THINK FOR NEXT YEAR AND THE YEAR BEYOND IT WILL CONTINUE TO GROW. ONE OF THE BIG THINGS WE REALLY TRY AND DO IS WE ARE CONTINUING THE FOCUS OF HOW TO KEEP THAT UP AS TALKED ABOUT EARLIER WITH THE FOUNDATIONAL ISSUES WE HAD IN THE PAST MAKING SURE WE DON'T GO BACK TO THAT SO KING HAS DONE A GREAT JOB IN ENSURING THAT EVERYTHING WE DO FOR THE FUTURE IS STABILIZING THE TURF AND MAKING SURE IT IS POSITIVE GOING FORWARD. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF IS GOLF COURSES WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT WE MEET WITH GOLF COURSES TAKE UP A LOT OF LAND SO ONE OF THE BIGGER THINGS THAT WE TRY AND FOCUS ON IS BEING A GOOD COMMUNITY PARTNER WE'LL SEE SOME COMMUNITY EVENTS WE POSTED THIS YEAR WE'VE SEEN AN ISSUE LAST YEAR FROM THE FIRST RESPONDERS AND MILITARY EVENTS, WE REALLY WANT TO GO AND BE SOMEWHERE THAT NOT JUST GOLFERS USE BUT CITY RESIDENTS OF THE CITY COULD FEEL LIKE THIS IS A PLACE THAT COULD GO AND GOLF. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE DONE IS WE WANT PEOPLE TO REALIZE WE DO HAVE THE CAFE AND EVENT [02:10:01] SPACE. WE HAVE AREAS -- WE HAVE SPACES FOR COMMUNITY USE. WE WANT TO LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW THAT BETTER. BUT IN FUTURE WE WANT COMMUNITIES TO SEE THAT THAT IS A PLACE THAT COULD COME AND USE. FROM THE COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION AND EVENTS FOR OUR HIGH SCHOOL TEAMS, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO GO THROUGH AND SEE THAT WE HAVE ROWLETT AND ROCKWELL HIGH SCHOOLS CURRENTLY USING OUR FACILITIES WE REALLY BELIEVE IN GROWING THE GAME OF GOLF SO ONE OF THE BIG THINGS WE DO WITH THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE HOW WE COULD PARTICIPATE WITH LOCAL HIGH SCHOOLS AND SEE IF THEY COME OUT AND PLAY WITH US THROUGH SCHOOL THEY WILL ALSO BRING BACK OTHER PEOPLE TO THAT AND WE THINK BY GROWING THE GAME OF GOLF IT HELPS US AND GROWS THE COMMUNITY. PROUD OF LOCAL PARTNERSHIPS WE HAVE AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO GROW THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE FUTURE OUR PRIORITIES REMAIN CONSISTENT WE RECOGNIZE THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO THERE'S A LOT OF GOLF COURSES SOME PEOPLE WOULD SAY PUT WATER ON THE GRASS THAT TURNS GREEN WE LOOK AT IT AND SEE HOW WE COULD DO BETTER ON THAT. I SPOKE TO KING AND HE WILL TELL YOU ALL THE THINGS WE NEED TO IMPROVE. BUT HE CAN ALSO TELL YOU ALL THE THINGS WE DID IN THE PAST TO MAKE IT BETTER SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT WITH THE CONTINUING OF THE TRAJECTORY TO WATCH THE GOLF COURSE TO SAY IT'S A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN IT WAS LAST TIME. SO OUR CONTINUOUS INVESTMENT IN THE GOLF COURSE PARTNERING WITH ALL OF YOU THE GOLF ADVISORY BOARD THE RESIDENTS THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GOOD PARTNERSHIP STEWARDS OF THE COURSE AND WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP FOR MAKING THAT HAPPEN. SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR LETTING US SPEAK HERE TONIGHT. HE AND I ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS HERE FOR YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD PRESENTATION. THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT I THINK WERE MISSING AND HELP ME KIND OF KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE COURSE A LITTLE BIT MORE. YOU MENTIONED THE ENHANCEMENTS TO THE CLUBHOUSE BAR AND WITH THE SEATING AND THINGS LIKE THAT HAS THAT EQUATED TO ADDITIONAL REVENUE OR ADDITIONAL USE OF THE SPACE? >> IT HAS. WE NEED TO GET SOME NEW TABLES AND CHAIRS WE ALSO HAVE PICTURES OF THE GOLF COURSE IN THERE. BEFORE WE JUST HAD SIGNS OF WHAT WE SAW THERE BUT ALSO NOW THE CUSTOMER WILL SIT DOWN AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE PICTURES OF THE GOLF COURSE YOU COULD BE LOOKING AT A BUDWEISER SIGN THERE SO IT IT DOESN'T BRING OUT A BIT MORE OF A RELAXED FEELING OTHER THAN JUST A BAR. >> WHAT ABOUT THE EVENT SPACE THAT YOU GUYS RENT OUT. HAS THE USAGE INCREASE THERE? >> IT HAS. AND [INDISTINCT] USES IT WE'VE HAD ALL THE CITIZENS OF ROWLETT. WE'VE HAD BABY SHOWERS. WE'VE HAD [INDISTINCT] WHICH DOES WORK FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE GIVE THEM SUCH A DISCOUNT A PRETTY BIG DISCOUNT THE LIFELINE 20% DISCOUNT OFF THAT ROAD A SIGNIFICANT DISCOUNT BY USING THAT ROOM WE'VE HAD FOR WEDDING RECEPTIONS THIS YEAR, THREE GRADUATIONS THERE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THINGS GOING ON. >> RYAN, I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW. YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION BUT I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW IF OUR STAFF AT THE RCC REFER PEOPLE OVER TO WATERVIEW IF THEY'RE TRYING TO BOOK A ROOM IN ONE OF THE EVENT. >> SPEAKER-06: , A, B, OR C OR D IF THEY REFER PEOPLE OVER TO WATERVIEW JUST AS A BACKUP SPACE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT THING TO DO. UTILIZING THAT SPACE TO ME IS SO CRITICAL IT'S ADDITIONAL REVENUE OTHERWISE THE ROOM IS SITTING EMPTY IF THE ROOM COULD BE USED SEVEN DAYS A WEEK IT WOULD BE GREAT, BUT I IMAGINE IT'S PROBABLY ALMOST NOT USED EVERY WEEKEND. SO THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR GROWTH. THAT TAKES MARKETING. PEOPLE HAVE TO KNOW THAT THAT SPACE IS BACK THERE AND AVAILABLE. >> ONE THING WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE SO THE SPACE BEFORE WE HAD SOME PICTURES OF IT IT WAS ONE WHERE THE ONLY KNOW YOU ABOUT IT IS THE [INDISTINCT] COURSE. SO WE'RE REDOING OUR WEBSITE TO SHOW THAT YOU COULD BOOK ONLINE. >> SPEAKER-10: THAT'S GREAT. LOVE TO HEAR THAT. THE ONLY OTHER THING I THINK THAT REALLY WOULD HAVE HELPED ME, WE MADE SOME INVESTMENTS IN THE DRIVING RANGE ADDING THAT CONCRETE PAD FIXED IN PLACE, MATS, THERE'S NO UTILIZATION NUMBERS THAT SHOW OUR UTILIZATION HAS SPIKED BECAUSE NOW PEOPLE CAN GO OUT EVEN WHEN THE GRASS IS TURNED TO MUD BECAUSE IT'S BEEN BEAT TO OR WHATEVER. HAS UTILIZATION GONE UP THERE AS WELL? >> UTILIZATION WOULD GROW ONCE WE HAVE THE RANGE OPEN? >> YES. >> WHEN THE CONCRETE PADS WE ARE ADDING SPECIFICALLY. >> THE CONCRETE PAD REALLY HELPED S MORE SO ON BAD DAYS INSTEAD OF CLOSING THE RANGE, WE WERE ABLE TO OPEN THE RANGE. SO THEY WERE ABLE TO HIT OFF PASS BEFORE SO THEY'RE ABLE TO BE OFF THE MAT SO THAT WOULD HELP, BUT NOW THAT WE ARE MORE IN THE SUMMER, IT'S MORE MATS [02:15:02] MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY AND THEN WE DO GRASS FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. THE REASON WHY YOU HAVE TO DO THAT IS BECAUSE AS MANY PEOPLE ARE USING THE GRASS OUT THERE, THEY WOULD WEAR IT OUT SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE KIND OF MAINTAIN IT FOR THE WEEKEND GOLFERS, BUT ALSO THE BALL POUNDER WHO HIT BALLS AND BALLS AND BALLS WHO USED THE RANGE LIKE THAT. AND ANY KIND OF TOURNAMENTS OR ANYTHING WITH THE RANGE YOU SEE THE INCREASE OF AROUND THIS MONTH THE LAST FEW MONTHS HAVE BEEN PRETTY ROUGH. NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER, BUT ALSO IT'S VERY HOT TO HIT THE BALLS OFF THE RANGE AND ONCE WE OPEN THE RANGE HAVE A BIT OF OCTOBER 1ST WE OPEN IT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A CHANCE BY OCTOBER THIRD TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN PLAY AN INCREASE IN REVENUE THAT FAST WITHIN THE FIRST WEEK. WE GOT ROUGHLY 24,000 THAT DAY THE FIRST DAY WE OPENED UP. AND THAT RINK WAS ONLY PART OF IT. WHAT WE DID TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT WE THOUGHT WITH THE RANGE BEING SHUT DOWN WITH THE RENOVATION WE THOUGHT WE WOULD LOSE MEMBERS. WE DIDN'T LOSE MEMBERS FROM OUR MEMBERSHIP. WE LOST GOLFERS BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO HIT GOLF BALLS. AND WE REALIZED THAT. SO GOING IN THE FUTURE WE'LL MAKE SURE WE ANALYZE THAT AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MAKING SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ADVANTAGES SO PEOPLE WANT TO HIT BALLS AND PLAY GOLF SO WE'RE SEEING THAT NOW. >> THAT'S GREAT. >> OR THE DIFFERENCES WE'LL SEE WITH CONCRETE IN SOME COURSES IN THE WINTER BECAUSE IT'S WET IN THE MORNING SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GO ON THE GRASS. >> WHEN DID THE CONCRETE FINISH? >> WE PUT IT IN THE LAST YEAR. >> I THOUGHT SO. THE RANGE WAS CLOSED FOR. >> IT STARTED AND THEN JUNE FIRST WE WERE CLOSING. >> TO ME, HAVING A CHART THAT SHOWS HERE'S WHEN WE FINISH THE CONCRETE AND HERE IS OUR MONTHLY DRIVING RANGE USAGE. YOU KNOW THE NUMBER OF BUCKETS THAT WE SOLD OR WHATEVER, I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO SEE. I MEAN, THERE'S TONS OF STATISTICS YOU COULD CROSS COMPARE WITH WHAT YOU HAVE GOT GOING ON HERE. DAYS OF THE WEEK, HOW MANY ROUNDS PER DAY THAT YOU HAVE, WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK IS YOUR BUSIEST. OBVIOUSLY IT WILL BE SATURDAY OR SUNDAY PROBABLY OUR BUSIEST DAY, BUT TIME OF THE DAY, WHEN YOU SELL THE MOST ROUNDS. THERE'S LOTS OF STUFF AND THEN YOU OVERLAP --VERLAY THAT WITH THINGS LIKE TEMPERATURE AND WEATHER. CAN FIGURE OUT WHEN YOUR GOOD DAYS ARE AND WHAT IS GOING ON. I THINK YOU HAD SOME OPPORTUNITIES THERE TO USE THAT FOR MARKETING TO GET OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON, DAYS WHEN YOU ARE SLOW, MAYBE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO BE OUT THERE SELLING YOURSELF. COUNCIL, QUESTIONS? CARTER? >> MAYOR, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS. WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE KYLE, YOU BEING HERE, AND KING AS WELL. AND STAYING WITH US IT'LL BE A VERY LATE NIGHT SO WE APOLOGIZE FOR ALL THE WORK WE HAVE TO DO AND PUT YOU GUYS DOWN. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS, QUITE FRANKLY. KYLE, USED THE WORD PARTNERSHIP. AND YET LATER, YOU TALK ABOUT LANDLORD TENANT. THERE'S REALLY A DISTINCTION BETWEEN A LANDLORD AND A TENANT AND A PARTNER. YOU SEE, A LANDLORD TENANT IS A CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENT AND THE WORD LANDLORD, IT MEANS LORD. AND TENANT MEANS RESPONSIBILITIES. AND REGRETTABLY, YOU HAVE NOT MET YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES. AND THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT JUST POP OUT, JUST NUMBER 1, YOU REALIZE THAT YOU LOST -- ALMOST LOST TWO GREENS, 2 OUT OF 18. THAT NEVER HAS HAPPENED TO WATER VIEW. SO SOMEBODY TOOK THEIR EYE OFF THE BALL AND THERE IS DAMAGE. AND THERE IS A LANDLORD AND TENANT, THAT'S A PROBLEM. SO THERE IS DAMAGE THERE. TWO, MAYOR, YOU TALK ABOUT THE DRIVING RANGE. YOU KNOW YOU HIRED SOMEBODY WHO WAS NOT QUALIFIED AND WHO DID NOT COMPLETE THE JOB. YOU KNOW THAT THEY HAVE DAMAGED THE IRRIGATION. IN THE DRIVING RANGE. AND YES, WE HAD SIGNIFICANT TEMPERATURES HOWEVER, WHEN I LOOK AT BEFORE AND AFTER WHEN I LOOK AT THE VISUAL THERE'S NO IMPROVEMENT WHEN YOU STARTED DOING THE DRIVING RANGE AND THE CONDITION IT'S IN. THAT'S A TRAVESTY. THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED AND ADDRESSED. AND THEN THE THIRD THINGS -- THIRD THING IS THE IRRIGATION. WE KNOW THAT'S A CHALLENGE BUT I LIVE ON THE COURSE I DIDN'T SEE ANYONE REPAIRING ANY IRRIGATION ALL SUMMER LONG AND WE DO HAVE A CONSULTANT THAT THE CITY HIRES WHO GIVES US REPORTS AND WHO TELLS US THAT IT'S IN REALLY BAD [02:20:04] CONDITION THE IRRIGATION IS SO THERE'S SOME ACTION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAPPENING HERE SOME MORE DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ASSET. PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ASSETS, AND AMENITY FOR THE CITY OF ROWLETT. AND WHEN WE GIVE PUBLIC FUNDS TO BE UTILIZED IN A PRO -- ON A PROJECT, WE ACCEPT THAT TO BE DONE IN AN EXCEPTIONAL MANNER, ON TIME, DELIVERED AND WITH RESULTS SO I WILL JUST LIMIT MY COMMENTS TO THAT AT THIS POINT. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. >> DID YOU GUYS HAVE ANY FEEDBACK TO THOSE COMMENTS? >> JUST SAID I AGREE WITH YOU, THE DRIVING RANGE SHOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETED ONE, ON TIME, AND WE DID HAVE THE WRONG CONTRACTOR. WE'RE COVERING THE DIFFERENCE RIGHT NOW WHICH IS WHY WE ARE SPENDING A LOT MORE MONEY THAN INITIALLY CLAIME BECAUSE WE DID CHOOSE THE WRONG CONTRACTOR. THAT'S SOMETHING WE ARE NOT BRINGING BACK TO YOU BECAUSE I AGREE, IT'S MY COMPANY WE SHOULD HAVE CHOSEN A BETTER CONTRACTOR. FOR US RIGHT NOW WHAT OUR GOAL IS TO FIX IT AND MAKE IT RIGHT. I THINK BY EARLY IN THE SPRING% NEXT YEAR, YOU WILL LOOK AT IT AND SAY IT LOOKS AMAZING. WE DO THIS EVERY DAY AND WE HAVE HAD ALL OF OUR TEAMS, PEOPLE FROM CALIFORNIA HERE, DIFFERENT PEOPLE LOOKING TO SAY HOW DO WE MAKE THIS RIGHT BECAUSE WE MADE A MISTAKE AND SO WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING TO FIX THAT AND IT WOULD BE MY WORRY AND I LIVE HERE AND SOME OF US LIVE IN CALIFORNIA, SO I WOULD MAKE SURE MYSELF THAT IT GETS DONE AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE IT RIGHT. AND ON THE OTHER THINGS, THE IRRIGATION, SAME THING, I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF THAT. I SEE THE IRRIGATION INVOICES, WE HAVE A LINE FOR THAT AND WE'LL TAKE THAT LINE AND FIGURE OUT WHY THAT'S GETTING FIXED SO I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK. >> COUNCILOR, OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT GENTLEMEN, I THINK THAT'S IT. WE APPRECIATE AGAIN THE PRESENTATION AND ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU SHARED AND WE WILL SEE YOU OUT THERE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, HAVE A [3.D. Receive an update regarding the operation and maintenance responsibilities for Soil Conservation Service Dams (SCS Dam Site 11 and SCS Dam Site 12).] GOOD NIGHT. >> THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. THAT CONCLUDES ITEM 3C AND NOW WE MOVE ON TO 3.D. RECEIVE AN UPDATE REGARDING THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITIES FOR SOIL CONSERVATION SERVICE DAMS (SCS DAM SITE 11 AND SCS DAM SITE 12). BRIAN? >> HELLO, COUNCIL. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT OUR TWO SOIL CONSERVATION DAMS SITE 11 AND SITE 12. I WILL PROVIDE A BIT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THOSE TWO SPECIFIC DAMS IN [INDISTINCT]. I'LL OUTLINE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY FOR MAINTENANCE AND I WILL DISCUSS THE AGREEMENTS THAT WILL BE A FUTURE COUNCIL ITEM FOR THE TRANSFER OF THE OPERATION OF MAINTENANCE TO THE CITY OF ROWLETT. SO AS A BACKGROUND, IN THE 1950S AND 60 SECONDS, DALLAS COUNTY AND THE NATIONAL RESOURCE CONSERVATION SERVICE, ALSO KNOWN AS NRC'S CONSTRUCTED SMALL WATERSHED DAMS ALONG THE ROWLETT WATERSHED WHICH BASICALLY EXTENDS TO WHAT IS NOW LAKE RAY HUBBARD ALL THE WAY UP TO BASICALLY PLANO AND ALLEN AT THE TOP LEFT THERE. THIS IS GENERALLY FOR FLOOD CONTROL SEDIMENT COLLECTION, IRRIGATION AND OTHER AGRICULTURAL NEEDS. AND THESE ARE NOT THE SAME TYPES OF DAMS YOU WOULD SEE AT LAKE GRAY HUBBARD OR LAKE [INDISTINCT]. THESE ARE SMALL EARTHEN DAMS THAT HAVE A NICE FAIRLY WIDE JUST GRASS SLOPES. THERE'S AN AUXILIARY SPILLWAY THERE, USUALLY TO KIND OF PICK UP SOME OF THE EXCESS FLOW WHEN EVER IT OVERTOPS BUT IT'S GENERALLY DESIGNED TO COLLECT SEDIMENT. THERE'S BASICALLY A LITTLE INLET STRUCTURE SET THERE AT SET ELEVATION AND ANY OF THE SEDIMENT THAT FLOWS UPSTREAM IS GOING TO COLLECT UNDERNEATH IT. THEN THE AREA BETWEEN THE TOP OF THE AUXILIARY SPILLWAY AND ABOVE THE TOP OF THE -- WHAT CONTROLS THE FLOOD ELEMENT -- ELEVATION. SO WE HAVE TWO DAMS, THE FIRST IS DAM SITE 11 IT IS LOCATED WITHIN ROWLETT, GARLAND, AND [INDISTINCT]. UP AT THE TOP IS THE [INDISTINCT] PLEASANT VALLEY RANCH ESTATES DEVELOPMENT. THE CITY OF GARLAND BASICALLY HAS A 50-FOOT OR 100-FOOT WIDE STRETCH KIND OF THROUGH THE DAM, KIND OF PART OF THEIR CITY LIMITS BASICALLY EXTENDS FROM GARLAND PROPER ALL THE WAY TO THE LANDFILL AND THEN THE CITY OF ROWLETT IS BASICALLY AN UNDEVELOPED AREA ON THE SOUTH SIDE THIS WAS COMPLETED IN 1955 AND THIS WAS BUILT WITH A 50 YEAR SERVICE LIFE, WHICH WE ARE NOW BASICALLY AT ALMOST 75, BASICALLY. IT IS HEAVILY SEDIMENTED BUT STILL IN GOOD CONDITION AND [02:25:01] STILL DOING ITS JOB. AND SIMILARLY, DAM SITE 12, THAT'S THE 1I THINK MOST PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN ROWLETT HAVE SEEN, DRIVEN BY, IF YOU'VE DRIVEN BY MERRITT OR GEORGE BUSH, EXCUSE ME, YOU HAVE SEEN THIS ONE, THIS ONE WAS BUILT BASICALLY AROUND THE SAME TIME SAME RELATIVE SIZE AND SAME KIND OF SERVICE LIFE AND IT'S BASICALLY IT'S BASICALLY ON THE FARMLAND OWNED BY THE SAME FAMILY SINCE THE TIME THE DAM WAS BUILT HOW THESE DAMS ARE SET, THEY ARE WITHIN A PRIVATE EASEMENT THAT IS WITH THE TEXAS WITH THE SOIL WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT. OUR LOCAL CHAPTER IS KNOWN AS DILWORTH. THEY BASICALLY MANAGE ALL OF DALLAS AND [INDISTINCT] COUNTY. AND THESE ARE -- EVERYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE DAM ITSELF IS PRIVATE PROPERTY WHOEVER THE LANDOWNER IS COULD DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH IT, BUT THEY BASICALLY PUT A FENCE AROUND THAT AREA TO PROTECT THE DAM AND -- DAM EMBANKMENT SLOPE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. DILWORTH REGULATES THE USE OF THE ACTUAL POND -- DALWORTH LOOKS AT THE EMBARKMENT OF THESE PONDS. IN GENERAL THEY LOOK AT THEIR WATER, THEIR LIVESTOCK. I HAVE SEEN IN THE RANCH ESTATES THERE'S LITTLE DOCK IN SACHSE WHERE YOU COULD DO A BIT OF A PADDLE BOAT, THINGS LIKE THAT. IF YOU WANT TO MOW ALONG THERE YOU ARE WELCOME TO MOW THERE. HOMEOWNERS ARE GENERALLY ALLOWED TO MAINTAIN THEIR PART OF IT, GENERALLY A DAM EMBANKMENT THAT IS MAINTAINED BY THE STATE DALWORTH. FROM 1960 UNTIL PRESENT, DALLAS COUNTY HAS BASICALLY FUNDED THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THESE TWO DAMS. AND I THINK COLLIN COUNTY EFFECTIVELY MAINTAINED THEIR OWN DAMS. WHY THIS TRANSFER IS BEING PURSUED IN 2021 WE ENTERED AGREEMENT WITH DALLAS COUNTY AS PART OF THE MASTER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM IN THEIR THERE'S AN ARTICLE THAT TALKS ABOUT SMALL WATERSHED DAMS BASICALLY THEY ENCOURAGE US TO TAKE THE FULL OWNERSHIP OF THE OPERATION MAINTENANCE OPPORTUNITIES AND THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MAY DECLINE PARTICIPATION IN FUTURE MCU PROJECTS THAT THE CITY ELECTS NOT TO PURSUE THAT RESPONSIBILITY. THIS PAGE HERE, BASICALLY JUST TAKES THE DIRECT LANGUAGE STRAIGHT FROM THERE. AND SO IN TERMS OF WHAT DALLAS COUNTY HAS COMMITTED TO US IN THE PAST AND PRESENT WE HAVE BEEN COMMITTED ABOUT 6 MILLION PROJECTS OF NCI P. DOLLARS ALREADY FOR THE MIDDLE ROAD PROJECT FROM DALWORTH -- IN 2024 WITH DALROCK. THE DALROCK INTERSECTION WAS ALSO FUNDED BY [INDISTINCT] AND WE HAVE ANOTHER SIX AND A HALF MILLION IN OTHER PROJECTS INCLUDING THE INTERCONNECTOR AND A FUTURE MILLI -- MILLER ROAD RIDING BRIDGE THAT IS CONTINGENT AND WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO BE RESOLVED WITH THE TRANSFER. IN MARCH OF 2024 WAS BASICALLY THE CITY OF ROWLETT, SACHSE, GARLAND, DALLAS COUNTY AND NRCS DID AN INSPECTION ON THE DAMS. THE NRCS PROVIDED AN INSPECTION REPORT TO THE DALWORTH WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT WITH A LIST OF ITEMS TO ADDRESS BEFORE [INDISTINCT]. MOST OF THEM WERE FAIRLY SMALL, SOME OF THE SLOPES, PUTTING SOME RIPRAP, DOING SOME OTHER THINGS AND BASICALLY FROM THE SUMMER OF 2025 UNTIL NOW, WE'VE HAD MONTHLY MEETINGS WORKING WITH ALL THE CITIES TO DISCUSS HOW WE'RE GOING TO GO ABOUT DOING THE FORMAL TRANSFER OF THE ZONE RESPONSIBILITIES AND DRAFTING THE DOCUMENTS WORKING WITH THE ATTORNEYS ET CETERA TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY, WHERE BASICALLY THERE IS THREE TYPES OF AGREEMENTS THAT WILL BE REQUIRED. THE FIRST IS WATERSHED PLAN MODIFICATION. WE COLLOQUIALLY CALL IT THE SPONSORSHIP AGREEMENT WHERE BASICALLY THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT THAT WAS MADE IN 1960 FOR THE [02:30:04] ROWLETT CREEK WATERSHED IS APPENDING THE CITY'S AND INTO THAT AGREEMENT SO THAT WAY WE COULD ACTUALLY FORMALLY MAKE AN O AND M AGREEMENT WHERE BASICALLY WE OUTLINE THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE SPONSORS FOR EACH RESPECTED DAM THERE IS ONE HOME AGREEMENT PER DAM. FOR SITE 11 WITH AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN ROWLETT, SACHSE AND GARLAND TO BASICALLY BREAK DOWN THE RESPONSIBILITIES BETWEEN EACH OF THE CITY'S. AND SO AS I MENTIONED THE WATERSHED PROJECT PLAN MODIFICATION WOULD BASICALLY ADD DALLAS COUNTY IN THE THREE CITIES INTO THE WATERSHED PLAN AND THIS IS THE REQUIRED STEP THIS IS A FAIRLY SIMPLE DOCUMENT. THE O AND M AGREEMENT WOULD LIKELY LAY OFF BASICALLY WHAT RESPONSIBILITY THE SPONSORS WOULD HAVE IN TERMS OF THE OPERATION THE ADMINISTRATION THE MANAGEMENT PERFORMANCE OF THE DAM. WHAT TYPES OF MAINTENANCE AND ROUTINE WORK ARE WE ALLOWED TO DO. OR ARE REQUIRED TO DO. AND THEN WHAT KIND OF REPLACEMENT AND SPECIFICALLY, REPLACEMENT IS NOT OF THE WHOLE STRUCTURE, IT'S USUALLY OF THE MINOR STRUCTURAL COMPONENTS. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING ANY MAJOR CHANGES TO THE DAM ITSELF, THAT IS WE NEED TO WORK WITH NRCS, WE NEED TO WORK WITH DALWORTH BEFORE WE MAKE THOSE CHANGES. AND THEN THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR SITE 11, WE OUTLINE THE RESPONSIBILITIES AND AS A FINAL DRAFT THAT WE HAVE AT THIS MOMENT, THE CITY OF ROWLETT, WE HAVE DECIDED THIS 48% IS FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE CITY OF GARLAND IS [INDISTINCT] AND THE CITY OF SACHSE IS 45% AND WE WOULD HAVE SACHSE THE PRIMARY ADMINISTRATOR OF THE O AND M ACTIVITIES SINCE ACCESS TO THAT DAM IS STRAIGHT THROUGH THE PLEASANT VALLEY ESTATES. YOU HAVE TO CROSS OVER INTO SACHSE AND THE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND OR NOTICE ANYTHING WE FIGURED SACHSE MADE THE MOST SENSE TO% HAVE THEM AS THE PRIMARY ADMINISTRATORS FOR THAT DE. AND IN THE DIVISION IN TERMS OF FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY WAS BASED ON THE DAM EMBANKMENT ITSELF WHICH I HIGHLIGHT HERE IN ORANGE AND YOU COULD SEE BASICALLY THE THREE CITY LIMITS, ROWLETT HAD ROUGHLY 48% OF THE EMBANKMENT, SACHSE 45, AND GARLAND HAD ABOUT 7% WITH THAT LITTLE TINY SLANT BETWEEN THE TWO DARK BLACK LINES THAT ARE THERE. AND THAT FOUR DAM SITE 12, THAT ONE IS ALL IN ROWLETT SO THAT ONE WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR, 100% OF THOSE COSTS. AND THE TYPE OF O AND M ACTIVITIES THAT WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IS MAINTAINING VEGETATION, DOING MOWING, ANY WOODY TREE AND DEBRIS REMOVAL, CLEANING AND REPAIRING OF THE OUTLET STRUCTURES, PUTTING RIPRAP, [INDISTINCT] BASIN AND SPILL REPAIR, MAINTAINING THE ACCESS ROAD AND THEN AS WELL, WE WOULD BE DOING ROUTINE INSPECTION ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. WE WOULD RESPOND AND INSPECT THE DAM AND ANY MAJOR STORM -- IN ANY MAJOR STORM EVENTS TO MAKE SURE IT'S STILL INTACT MAKE SURE THAT NO DEBRIS IS [INDISTINCT], INLET STRUCTURE, AND MAINTAIN THE EMERGENCY ACCESS PLAN WHICH THERE IS ONE IN PLACE. THAT DALWORTH HAS PROVIDED AND WE ALSO PLAN FOR RECURRING O AND M COSTS THROUGH AN ANNUAL BU BUDGET. ANY MAJOR STRUCTURAL REPAIRS AND REHABILITATIONS WE WOULD HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH THE NRCS ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL TO DETERMINE HOW TO GO ABOUT IT. WE CAN CHOOSE TO DO WHAT WE WANT WITH THE DAM. BUT IT'S JUST IN TERMS OF THE STRUCTURAL PAIR, IT'S BEST WE GO THROUGH THAT ROUTE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE BETTER ACCESS TO FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDING THROUGH THAT ROUTE WHERE WE COULD BE AT THIS STATE FOR ANY MAJOR MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES AS WELL, WE COULD POTENTIALLY APPLY FOR A GRANT THAT WOULD COVER US ABOUT 9010 -- 90-10. WE WOULD ONLY BE OBLIGATED FOR 10% OF THE COST, THE STATE WOULD BE 90. AND BASED ON THE AGREEMENT THE ESTIMATED COST FOR EACH OF THE DAMS RESPECTIVELY WAS ABOUT 25,000 WITH THE 48% OF SITE 11 WOULD BE ABOUT $12,000. IN TOTAL OUR ESTIMATED ANNUAL COST IS ABOUT 37,000 ANNUAL DOLLARS. AND SO THE NEXT DIRECTION IS BASICALLY WE ARE GOING TO FINALIZE THE VERIFICATION OF ALL OF THOSE ITEMS MAKING SURE THAT [02:35:03] WE ARE ALL GOOD, THAT DALWORTH COMPLETED THE ITEMS FOR THAT LAST INSPECTION. WE WOULD BE TAKING THIS TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL FOR CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THOSE DOCUMENTS. OUR TARGET DOCUMENTS NOVEMBER THIRD WE ARE WAITING FOR SACHSE TO ACCEPT THE FINAL DRAFTS. WE HAVE MISSED THE CITY OF GARLAND'S DEADLINE, SO THEY'RE PUSHING THEIR COUNCIL ACTION TO NOVEMBER 16TH AND 17TH. SO WE MAY CHOOSE TO FOLLOW SUIT AND THEN ONCE THESE AGREEMENTS ARE DONE, WE'LL EXECUTE THE AGREEMENTS AND POTENTIALLY AS WELL GO FORTH AND ENGAGE DALWORTH TO CONTINUE THE O AND M ACTIVITIES FOR US. AND SO IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE? >> BRIAN, THANK YOU. THAT WAS A VERY COMPREHENSIVE PRESENTATION. I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, FOR SITE 11, SACHSE IS THE ADMINISTRATOR, MEANING THEY ARE TAKING CARE OF ALL THE O AND M MAINTENANCE. WE ARE JUST PLAYING THEM TO HANDLE THAT. >> EXACTLY. THEY CHOSE TO ENGAGE DALWORTH, WE WOULD PAY THEM AND THEY WOULD PAY DALWORTH, THAT KIND OF THING OR HOWEVER THEY CHOOSE TO. AS WELL, WE COULD CHOOSE TO CONTINUE. DALLAS COUNTY HAS DONE IT. THEY BASICALLY HAD A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT WHERE BASICALLY THIS CONTRACT WITH SERVICES NOT TO EXCEED TIGHT BUDGET NUMBER. WE COULD CHOOSE TO DO THAT WITH DALWORTH. WE COULD HIRE OUR OWN CONTRACTOR TO DO THE MOWING IF WE WANTED TO. IT'S KIND OF UP TO US HOW WE CHOOSE TO DO IT. >> SPEAKER-01: OKAY. WHAT ABOUT CAPITAL REPAIR COSTS WE TALKED ABOUT OPERATIONAL MOWING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, INSPECTIONS. BUT LET'S SAY WE SPOT SOMETHING IN ONE OF OUR INSPECTIONS THAT NECESSITATES THE CAPITAL REPAIR OR WHAT ACTIVATES THE EMERGENCY ACTION PLAN, WHAT SORT OF LIABILITY DO WE HAVE WITH THAT? >> WE WOULD WORK WITH THE STATE AND FEDERAL SORT OF NRCS TO ASSESS WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS NEEDED TRY AND WORK THROUGH THEM THROUGH FUNDING AVENUES WE FEEL IT PREDICATES TAKING ACTION AHEAD OF THEM WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO SO. LIKE LETTING THEM KNOW, HEY, WE SEE SOMETHING BUT MORE LIKELY, WE HAVE THE TIME TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THEY WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN ENGINEERS THAT THEY COULD HIRE THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT ASSESSMENT TO DETERMINE THOSE COSTS AND BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD ACCORDINGLY. >> SO CAPITAL COSTS DON'T FALL BACK ON THE COUNTY? >> IT'S NOT ON COUNTY ALONE, DEFINITELY. DEFINITELY NOT ON COUNTY ALONE AND IT WON'T BE THE CITY ALONE. >> AND YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT, YOU MADE MENTION OF SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE QUOTE A MAJOR MAINTENANCE ITEM THAT'S WHERE WE COULD GET FUNDING PERHAPS FROM THE STATE LIKE PERHAPS 90-10 COST SHARES IS THAT ONE OF THOSE CAPITAL ITEMS OR IS THAT SOMETHING DIFFERENT? >> IT'S IN THAT MIDDLE RANGE FOR EXAMPLE, YOU WOULD BE REDOING ALL OF THE FENCING AROUND THE DAM. THAT MIGHT BE A $20,000 ITEM. YOU COULD POTENTIALLY TAKE THAT IF YOU GET IN THE RIGHT. THAT THEY DO THIS GRANT EVERY YEAR THEY HAVE $5 MILLION THAT THEY COULD ALLOCATE TO ALL THESE KINDS OF DAMS, I THINK THREE AND A HALF IN THE FALL AND ONE AND A HALF IN THE SPRING. IT'S JUST WHATEVER KIND OF FIRST COME, FIRST SERVED, WHATEVER THEY CHOOSE FROM THAT LIST. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL, QUESTIONS? >> YES, I HAVE A COUPLE. USED THE WORD PURSUED. DID WE PURSUE THIS, OR WAS IT GETTING PUSHED TO US? >> IN TERMS OF PURSUING? >> TAKING OVER THE O AND M. IS DALLAS COUNTY PUSHING THIS TOWARDS US? >> THEY ARE NUDGING US IN THAT DIRECTION. >> NUDGING US, AND IF WE DON'T DO IT, THE RAMIFICATIONS ARE WE MAY NOT SEE FUTURE NCIP FUNDING. >> THAT IS THE UNDERSTANDING, YES. >> THIS WAS EFFECTIVELY A CONDITION OF THE MCIP PLAN, RIGHT? >> THAT WAS AGREED UPON BACK IN 2021, YES. >> SO THEY CONDITIONED FUTURE, BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED IT ON AN ASTERISK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDES. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY CANCEL NCP IF WE DON'T TAKE THESE OVER, BUT I WILL TELL YOU, I MET WITH COMMISSIONER PRICE BACK IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR AND HE HAS A BINDER ON EVERY CITY THAT WE OVERSEE -- HE OVERSEES. OPENED HIS BINDER FOR ROWLETT AND THE VERY FIRST THING WAS THE DAMS. AND HE GOT ON A CALL WITH A MEMBER OF HIS STAFF. I WON'T USE THE WORDS THAT HE USED, BUT LET ME JUST SAY, HE WAS ADAMANT WE GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND NOW WE ARE HERE TEN MONTHS LATER STILL TALKING ABOUT IT. >> AND PUSHING IT AND PUSHING IT, BECAUSE I THINK I FOUND SOME OLD EMAILS AND CONVERSATIONS EVEN PREDATING THAT INSPECTION. IT'S BEEN A PROCESS BUT WE FINALLY GOT EVERYONE INTO BASICALLY THE SAME TEAMS ROOM TO [02:40:01] WORK THROUGH THIS WHAT FORMS WE NEED TO FILL OUT WHAT IT NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE WE HAMMER IT DOWN TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. >> SO BOTH OF THESE DAMS HAVE FAR SURPASSED THE LIFE OF THEM, RIGHT? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> YOU MENTIONED AN INSPECTION, THERE IS NO SIGNS OF ANY KIND OF COMPROMISE TO THE INTEGRITY OF THE DAMS. >> THERE IS NO SEEPAGE THAT I WOULD HEARD, THAT I HAVE SEEN. I WAS NOT ABLE TO GO OUT TO THOSE DAMS ON FRIDAY AND LOOK AROUND THE DAM SLOPES AND NONE OF THEM LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS ANY MAJOR DISREPAIR. THERE MAY BE A FEW SPOTS THAT I THINK PARTICULARLY WITH SITE 12, THERE'S A LOT OF LIVESTOCK ON THERE SO MAYBE YOU WORKED WITH THE HOMEOWNER TO KIND OF KEEP THEIR LIVESTOCK OFF THE DAM UNTIL THE GRASS GROWS BACK A LITTLE BIT, BUT NOTHING THAT I THINK REQUIRES A MAJOR ACTION TODAY. >> OKAY. SO IF WE HAVE TO HAVE ANYTHING DONE AS PART OF OUR RESPONSIBILITIES FOR O AND M, DO WE HAVE THE RESIDENT EXPERTISE, OR DO WE JUST KIND OF TRACK THIS OUT? >> IN TERMS OF DOING THE O AND M OPERATIONS, I WOULD SAY WE WOULD HAVE TO CONTRACT THAT OUT. THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH DALWORTH HOW THEY HAVE DONE IT IN THE PAST, THEY SOLICIT BIDS AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FOR LIKE THE MOWING, I THINK IT WAS CARDINAL SOLUTIONS. >> THEY HAVE PREFERRED VENDORS. OKAY. >> BUT IF YOU WERE TO TRY AND DO THIS IN-HOUSE IT REQUIRES SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT. THESE SLOPES, THESE DAMS WERE NOT BUILT TO THE SAME KIND OF STANDARDS THAT ARE TODAY. PART OF IT IS THAT THEY WERE JUST WITHIN REASONABLE AT THE TIME, BUT AS WELL, COST. MIND YOU, THESE WERE 1950. THESE WERE FAIRLY RULED. I MEAN, ROWLETT HAD ABOUT 250 PEOPLE AT THE TIME SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNDING TO NECESSARILY BUILD THE DAM SO A LOT OF IT HAD TO COME FROM THE COUNTY AND FROM THE STATE THEY ARE AT 2-1 SLOPES THAT WAS FAIRLY STEEP. THEY ARE STILL STURDY, BUT THEY ARE STEEP THEY WOULD REQUIRE FAIRLY SPECIALIZED MOWING EQUIPMENT TO BE ABLE TO RUN THOSE STEEP SLOPES AS TALL AS THESE DAMS ARE, THEY'RE ABOUT 20ISH FEET TALL. >> LAST QUESTION HERE, YOU MENTIONED THAT GARLAND AND SACHSE ARE KIND OF BEHIND SCHEDULE AND THEIR AGREEMENTS. IS THIS AN ALL THREE OR NONE, OR IF THEY DON'T DO IT, DO WE GO FORWARD? >> WE COULD CHOOSE TO GO FORWARD WITH 12 BUT I THINK WE'RE ALL TRYING TO DO IT AT THE SAME TIME, OR AT LEAST CLOSE ENOUGH THAT WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT TO GO ONISH AFTER THE OTHER SO THAT WAY ONE PERSON SIGNS OFF CAN BE ABLE TO HAND IT TO THE NEXT AND THE NEXT AND THEN DALLAS COUNTY WOULD SIGN AND THEN NRCS WOULD SIGN AFTER. >> SO THEIR DELAY IS NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE DRAGGING THEIR FEET, IT'S JUST DELAY? >> I THINK IT'S JUST DELAY. NRCS, I THINK FOR THEM, THEIR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WAS THE ONE WHO WAS IN A LOT OF THESE CONVERSATIONS AND THAT ASSISTANT DIRECTOR IS NOT WITH THE CITY ANY LONGER, SO THE DIRECTOR IS KIND OF GETTING THEMSELVES BACK INTO IT TRYING TO FIND THE LINES. SO WE HAVE ALSO CONFIRMED WITH DALLAS COUNTY WE ARE DOING OUR PART TO KEEP PUSHING THIS FORWARD SO THEY WILL NOT HOLD ANY NICP FUNDING FROM US AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE'RE CONTINUE MAKING OUR DUE EFFORTS. >> THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE A FEW. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. VERY WELL DONE. I THINK I AM MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE CATASTROPHIC THAN I AM THE DAILY MAINTENANCE OR THE MONTHLY MAINTENANCE OR WHATEVER. SO IN THE EVENT OF CATASTROPHIC EVENT, WHOSE LIABILITY IS IT. AND WHERE DOES THAT FALL? I UNDERSTAND YOU SAID THERE MIGHT BE SOME GRANTS AVAILABLE OR WE COULD WORK WITH THIS ORGANIZATION, BUT ULTIMATELY, I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE IN SHOCK THAT DALLAS COUNTY IS SHIFTING COST FROM THE COUNTY TO THE CITY. THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE. MY REAL CONCERN IS WHAT HAPPENS IN A CATASTROPHIC EVENT, WHOSE LIABILITY IT IS AND HOW DO YOU PROTECT AGAINST IT. THAT'S REALLY JUST A GENERAL QUESTION. AND THEN TWO, WE SAW THIS IN IRVING AND THEY CREATED A FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT ALL ALONG [INDISTINCT]. AND THAT BECAME A TAXING AUTHORITY THERE ARE FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICTS AND THE TAXES, THE COST TO PUT IN A TAX I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE LOOKED AT THAT, BUT THAT MIGHT BE ONE WAY TO RECOUP OUR EXPENSES FOR THIS AND CREATE SOME FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICTS. >> SPEAKER-01: OKAY. COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. BRIAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL SEE THIS BACK ON THE [02:45:01] AGENDA FOR THE FIRST MEETING IN NOVEMBER. >> FIRST AND THEN WORST CASE IS THE SECOND IF I DON'T HEAR FROM [3.E. Receive a presentation regarding proposed After Hours Construction Regulations. ] SACHSE THIS WEEK. >> LET ME KNOW IF YOU DON'T HEAR FROM THEM I WILL CONTACT THE MAYOR AND GIVE HIM A CALL. WE HAVE A PEANUT BUTTER THING WITH HIM. WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR AGENDA TO 3.E. RECEIVE A PRESENTATION REGARDING PROPOSED AFTER HOURS CONSTRUCTION REGULATIONS. ANDREW ESPINOSA. >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS EVENING WE WANTED TO PROVIDE -- BRING YOU A PRESENTATION SO WE COULD PROVIDE YOU FEEDBACK ON HOW WE COULD POTENTIALLY ENHANCE OUR AFTER HOURS CONSTRUCTION PROCESS. WE WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CURRENT REQUIREMENTS WHICH ARE PRETTY MUCH NON-EXISTENT, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, AND ALSO PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME COMPARISONS BETWEEN OTHER CITIES AND OURSELVES. SO AFTER HOURS CONSTRUCTION IS PRETTY MUCH DEFINED AS WORK THAT HAPPENS IN THE LATE NIGHT HOURS OR EARLY MORNING HOURS WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS AN IMPACT TO THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION NOISE, SOMETIMES LIGHTING, DUST AND OTHER DISRUPTIONS. CURRENTLY, OUR CITY DOES NOT HAVE A REAL COMPREHENSIVE ORDINANCE THAT ADDRESSES THESE TYPE OF VIOLATIONS. SO WE'RE ASKING YOU TO HELP US ESTABLISH SOME CLEAR POLICIES, SOME REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS, AND THUS BE ABLE TO REALLY PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE LIFE AND QUALITY OF OUR RESIDENTS. SO SOME OF OUR -- EQUALITY OF SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS SOME OF OUR REQUIREMENTS IS TO PROVIDE A FORMAL APPLICATION. HAVE THE APPLICANTS GIVE US A SITE PLAN. ALSO DEFINED THE AREA OF WORK AND THE HOURS OF OPERATION, PERHAPS EVEN THE TYPE OF EQUIPMENT AND LIGHTING THAT THEY WOULD BE USING AND THEN ALSO OFFER A DENIAL, APPROVAL, OR CONDITIONAL APPROVAL BY THE BUILDING OFFICIAL. SOME ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS OR THINGS YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER IS REQUIRING THE APPLICANT TO NOTIFY THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS IN THE AREA WHO WOULD BE IMPACTED. PERHAPS WITHIN A 500-FOOT RADIUS AND THEN ALSO ON THAT NOTIFICATION OR DOORHANGER OR MAILER, THE POINT OF CONTACT, WHO DO WE CONTACT IF WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE A COMPLAINT, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE? AND THEN ALSO HELP US ESTABLISH A PERMITTING FEE AND THEN ALSO A CHECKLIST FOR ENSURING THAT WE ARE CONSISTENT IN APPROVING OR DENYING THESE TYPE OF REQUESTS. PART OF OUR RESEARCH IS TO PROVIDE YOU WITH AN ANALYSIS OR A SNAPSHOT WITH OTHER CITIES ARE DOING. THE TABLE I'M ABOUT TO SHOW YOU ACTUALLY PROVIDES THAT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. WE SEE THERE WE LOOKED AT GARLAND, MCKINNEY, MESQUITE, MURPHY, RICHARDSON, SACHSE, WILEY, AND DURING THE ASSESSMENT WE DOCUMENTED WHAT THEIR SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS ARE AND YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THERE ARE FIVE OF THE NINE THAT REQUIRE A PERMIT AND OF THOSE 52 REQUIRE A FEE. THEY ALL HAVE AN AFTER HOUR INSPECTION FEE IF THERE IS A NEED TO GO OUT IN THE LATE HOURS OR EARLY MORNING HOURS TO INSPECT THEY COULD ASSESS THAT. OF COURSE THE NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENT AND THEN THE ACTUAL HOURS OF OPERATION PERMITTED MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. SO THERE IS CONSENSUS AMONGST CITY COUNCIL WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING BACK YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION THESE ARE THE SECTIONS OF THE CODE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE AMENDED AND UPDATED PER YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS. AT THIS TIME AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> THANK YOU, ANDREW. SO I SAW ON YOUR LIST IF YOU COULD GO BACK ONE SLIDE, YOU HAVE GOT SECTIONS 22-205. I'M LOOKING AT SECTION 22-204 WHICH IS LIMITATIONS ON ENVIRONMENTAL SOUND LEVELS AND IT HAS HOURS DEFINED FOR DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS, THAT'S NOT ACCOMPLISHING WHAT WE'RE INTENDING TO ACCOMPLISH BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SPEAK TO CONSTRUCTION AS A SPECIFIC FUNCTION, IT'S MORE NOISE IN GENERAL. >> THAT IS CORRECT, MAYOR. >> MAYOR JEFF WINGET: SO THAT'S THE ISSUE MOST OF THE CODE SPEAKS TO CONSTRUCTION IN GENERAL, NOT SPECIFIC NOISE. >> CORRECT. OFTENTIMES WHEN WE ISSUE A PERMIT THE CONTRACTOR FEELS THAT THEY COULD WORK ANY TIME THEY LIKE SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS PUT SOME OVERSIGHT AND PROCESS IN PLACE SO THAT THEY COULD DO THAT OR WE WILL NOT ALLOW IT BASED ON HOW CLOSE IT IS TO YOUR HOME. [02:50:03] >> I KNOW WE HAD AND THIS HAS BEEN MANY MONTHS AGO NOW THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT ALONG PGP SOUTH OF MAIN STREET OPERATING IN THE EARLY MORNING HOURS LIKE 5:00 A.M. AND I REMEMBER BEING TAGGED ON FACEBOOK LIKE 50 TIMES AND PEOPLE WERE REALLY UPSET. AND WE SOLVED THAT SOLUTION SOMEHOW, BECAUSE THE ISSUE STOPPED. SO HOW ARE WE ABLE TO GET THEM TO COMPLY, WAS IT JUST SAYING YOU CANNOT OPERATE BECAUSE THE SOUND LEVEL AND YOUR ADJACENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD? >> MAYOR, WE TYPICALLY HAVE A REALLY GOOD WORKING -- REALLY GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR DEVELOPERS AND WHEN THERE IS A PROBLEM HAPPENING ON THEIR SITE WE IMMEDIATELY REACH OUT TO THEM AND SAY HERE IS THE ISSUE WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, WHAT IS THE PLAN WE RECEIVED SOME CONCERNS WE TALKED TO THEM AND ADDRESSED IT. >> THAT'S GREAT. IF YOU WERE ABLE TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM, IS THIS A REGULATION THAT WE NEED? >> I BELIEVE IT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD CUSTOMERS COME TO US AND SAY WE SPECIFICALLY HAD ONE HERE AT A SCHOOL WHERE SOMEONE WANTED TO WORK ON A ROOF AT NIGHT. BUT IT WAS SO CLOSE TO SO MANY RESIDENTIAL HOMES THAT WE WERE JUST NOT COMFORTABLE ALLOWING THEM TO PROCEED AT NIGHT SO I APPLAUD THAT CONTRACTOR FOR BEING DILIGENT, REACHING OUT TO US. IF NOT, WE WERE GOING TO GET FLOODED WITH CONCERNS AND CALLS. >> SO IN THAT INSTANCE, YOU HAD TO USE DISCRETION AS OPPOSED TO AN ESTABLISHED CODE SAYING KNOW YOU CANNOT, HERE'S WHY OR SAY YES, BUT THERE'S A FEE. >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> WITH RESPECT TO THE FEE FOR AFTER HOURS WORK FOR THE APPLICATION FOR THE PERMIT, I SEE THERE'S ONLY TWO ON HERE THAT REQUIRE IT AND THEY ARE PRETTY WIDELY DIFFERENT. I'M CURIOUS IF THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF ON WHAT THAT PERMIT FEE MIGHT LOOK LIKE. >> AT THIS TIME, WE DON'T HAVE THAT, BUT WE ARE DEFINITELY LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK IN, I WILL DEFER TO MY CITY MANAGER TO SEE IF SHE HAS ANY RECOMMENDATIONS. >> LET'S PUT A PIN IN THAT ONE, WITH RESPECT TO THE AFTER HOURS INSPECTION FEE, DO WE HAVE A CAPACITY TO HAVE STAFF AVAILABLE TO DO THOSE AFTER HOURS INSPECTIONS? >> YES, MAYOR. WE WOULD WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AND AFTER OU INSPECTIONS AT 9:00 P.M. AND WE'VE GOT PEOPLE THEY GENERALLY WORK A-54 DAYS A WEEK, WHAT DOE THAT LOOK LIKE LEX KUB HAVE SOM COMMITTED TEAM MEMBERS WE'VE HA CONCERNS WHERE FOLKS HAVE LIGHT ON LATE AT NIGHT IN WE ASK FOR VOLUNTEERS, WE TRY NOT TO FORCE ANYBODY TO WORK LATE, OPEN THEY VOLUNTEER OFTEN TIMELY FIND FOLKS THAT ARE WILLING TO DO THAT. >> I APPRECIATE THAT. I DON'T WANT TO PUT US IN A POSITION WHERE IT'S NO LONGER A VOLUNTEER POSITION. WAS AS CURIOUS WHERE THE MAYOR IS WHEN WE WERE NEEDING THIS BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY ISSUES COME UP AND, MY TIME WORKING FOR THE CITY TO, WE THE OTHER ORDINANCES. THERE IS A STAFF REPORT OF AN OPERATING PASS AND SO ON, SUNDAY . POLICE WOULD GO OVER THERE AND TELL THEM YOU CAN'T BE DOING THIS. HE GOT TO GO. WE WOULD HAVE THEM HEARING CONCRETE. THEY WOULD SAY MAYBE YOU SHOULD'VE CHECKED WITH THE CITY BEFORE YOU STARTED MAKING ALL THIS NOISE, I DON'T WANT TO MAK CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE UNLESS WE REALLY NEED THE CHANGES. IS AN ISSUE THE REALLY WE NEED TO ADDRESS OR IS THIS SOMETHING WE WANT TO ADDRESS TO TIGHTEN U THE SHIP QUICK STICKY OUR GOAL IS TO BE PROACTIVE INTO BE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH THESE DEVELOPER OR BUILDERS AND ALSO BE ABLE TO NOTIFY OUR RESIDENCE IN ADVANCE AS OPPOSED TO BEING CAUGHT OFF GUARD. I WILL DEFER TO SFU MANAGER IF SHE WANTS TO ADD ADDITIONAL COMMENTARY TO THAT. IS COMING FROM A GOOD PLACE. >> VERY VALID QUESTIONS. WE HAVE EXPERIENCED IN THE PAST YEAR WHERE CONSTRUCTION HAS OCCURRED AT ODD HOURS IN THE DAY . OF WORK IS OCCURRING IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT IS A SEPARATE FUNCTION THAT IS HANDLED BY PUBLIC WORKS IN OUR PUBLIC WORK INSPECTORS. HAVE HER FEET POURS EARLY IN TH MORNING. WHEN IT COMES TO CONSTRUCTION WITHIN AN ENVELOPE, AND THERE I ADJACENCIES GOOD MOVIE HALF-LIGHT, NOISE, DUST, SO WE [02:55:03] WANT TO MITIGATE FOR THAT. WHAT HE IT DOES IS IT ALLOWS US TO AND ENSURE THAT WE CAN DO EARLY NOTIFICATION IN WE KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON. MUSIC AT THE EXAMPLE THAT WAS RAISED EARLIER, WE DID NOT WHAT'S GOING ON AND WE DID NOT KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING. WE WANT TO AVOID THOSE TYPES OF SITUATIONS. >> WE DON'T MAKE UP OUR OWN STUFF, WE LIKE TO STEAL STUFF FROM OTHER CITIES. >> THE ONES THAT STOOD OUT TO M ARE THE ONES THAT HAD THE PERMI REQUIREMENT. LET US KNOW IN ADVANCE, IF YOU NEED TO APPLY, HERE IS THAT SHE COME IN HERE IS THE PROCESS PER. >> WOULD YOU SHARE THOSE CODES SO I CAN LOOK AT THIS MYSELF EIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO READ THOSE . I WILL COME BACK TO YOU IF IT HITS ME HERE. >> WITH A CHART THAT'S ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW, LET'S USE LOUISVILLE AS AN EXAMPLE. THEY DON'T REQUIRE A PERMIT, BU THEY STILL HAVE HOURS LISTED. IS THAT AKIN TO THE FACT THAT W DON'T HAVE A PERMIT AND OUR HOURS ARE UNDER THAT 20 TO DASH TO 04 E- TO 05, SITE WHERE THE HOURS ARE COMING FROM. EVERY CITY HAS ESTABLISHED TIMES , IT'S JUST WHETHER OR NOT A PERMIT IS. >> AND HOW EFFECTIVELY ARE BEIN AND BEING PROACTIVE, TRAINED TO ENSURE WE'RE PROTECTING RESIDENTS FROM LIGHTING ENDNOTE COMPLAINTS, EITHER EARLY OR LAT AT NIGHT. >> REALLY, THIS IS LESS ABOUT MAYBE STOPPING THOSE INDIVIDUALS , BECAUSE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT WITH THE CODES AND ORDINANCES IN PLACE, THIS IS ABOUT ALLOWING PEOPLE T DO THAT ON THE SELECTED BASIS. >> IT IS TO ENHANCE THE RELATIONSHIP AND PARTNERSHIP WITH THESE FOLKS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE IN COMPLIANCE THE EXAMPLE I GAVE EARLIER, THEY CAME TO US AND SAID HERE'S WHAT I WANT TO DO, WHAT CAN I DO? >> B JUST DIDN'T HAVE AN ACTIVE. YOU CAN'T THERE'S NO WAY YOU CA DO THIS. >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> SO THIS JUST PROVIDES AN AVENUE FOR DEVELOPERS TO UTILIZ THIS RESOURCE. I SEE. >> ANDREW? >> IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT UNDERSTANDING YOUR OUTCOME OF THE THEM PROACTIVE, ARE YOU HEARING THOSE REPORTS FROM THOS TWO CITIES IF YOU'VE LOOKED INT THEM THAT FAR, THAT HAS GIVEN THEM THE OUTCOME THAT THEY SEE? >> WHEN I REACHED OUT TO THEM, THEY SAID THEY HAVE FOLKS THAT DO APPLY AND THEY THAT THAT PROCESS AND THE APPLICATION JUS LIKE ANY OTHER PERMIT. >> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR, I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. INTRICATE MY THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION, AND I WILL THANK YOU FOR THE LITTLE COMMENTARY O WHERE THIS CAME FROM. GENERALLY SPEAKING, I WANT TO B PRO-BUSINESS IN I WANT TO MORE DEVELOPMENT IN I WANT TO MAKE I AS EASY AS POSSIBLE ON OUR DEVELOPERS. NOW I DO BELIEVE IN PEACEFUL AN QUIET ENJOYMENT AS LONG AS I PA MY TAXES, I'M ALLOWED TO LIVE A MY HOUSE IF PEACEFUL MANNER. IF I'M A TENANT, AS LONG AS I PAY MY RENT, I'M ALLOWED TO EXIST IN THE BUILDING. IF THERE IS CONSTRUCTION IN THE BUILDING, THE CONSTRUCTION MUST FOLLOW RULES AND REGULATIONS. SO GENERALLY, I DON'T LIKE TO RESTRICT OUR DEVELOPMENT, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WE DO HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS, BUT WE ARE REALLY BALANCING HOW WE DO THAT, PROTECT OUR CITIZENS FOR INSTANCE DOWNTOWN, MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTARY ON THAT, AT FIRST AS SOMEBODY THAT IS OU ON MARRIAGE, IT'S WIDE OPEN SPACE. THAT'S WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH IS PUTTING MORE REGULATION ON [03:00:01] THAT PROHIBITS FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. >> THANK YOU. THINK MAYBE I SEE THIS DIFFERENTLY IS THIS ALMOST PROVIDES THEM AN AVENUE TO DO AFTER HOURS FOR INSTRUCTION THA DOESN'T IT'S MORE DEVELOPER FRIENDLY. >> THINK IT'S PERSPECTIVE. IF YOU'RE A DEVELOPER, YOU HAVE TO COME TO ANDREW AND ASK FOR PERMISSION VERSUS HERE IS THE KEY IS, GO GET THIS NEW SUPERDUPER RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT THAT WE'VE ALL WORKED HARD TO GET, OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENTS WORKED HARD TO CLOSE THE DEAL, AND WE GIVE THEM A STACK OF REGULATIONS AND SAVE SAY BE SUR YOU DO ALL OF THIS. >> UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, AND IF THEY COME TO US AND SAY, BUT WHAT ABOUT, I HAVE TO GET AN AI CONDITIONER DELIVERED THAT'S GO TO COME IN, I'M SORRY, THERE'S NO AVENUE FOR YOU TO DO THAT TODAY BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTION NOISES THAT ARE HAPPENING BETWEEN 10:00 P.M. AN 7:00 A.M. IN THE MORNING. THERE IS NO OPPORTUNITY. >> HOW WOULD THIS ALLOW THAT? >> THEY COULD APPLY FOR A PERMI TO DO AFTER STAFF WORKED. THEY WOULD CHARGE THEM AT IF HE AND THEN THEY COULD DO IT. >> TO ADD TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT MCKINNEY, KNOWING THE DEVELOPMENT IS PRETTY EXPENSIVE, I THINK THAT JUST GOES INTO WHAT HE IS BEING ENCUMBERED, $25 IS NOT REALLY GOING TO DETER DEVELOPER. PERFECT, THANK YOU FOR THE SPAC TO DO THIS, THIS FEES, EASY ENOUGH. >> AT $25 V DOESN'T BOTHER ME WHATSOEVER. I DON'T WANT TO GET HUNG UP ON THAT. I WOULD JUST SAY WHATEVER WE AGREE TO, THAT IT IS STREAMLINE IN ALL OF OUR PROCESSES FOR DEVELOPMENT AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ARE STREAMLINED AND MAKE IT EASY AND MAKE IT WHERE OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WANTS TO DO BUSINESS WITH US VERSUS RESTRICTIVE. THAT'S THE ONLY POINT I'M TRYIN TO MAKE VERY. >> I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. YES, SIR. COUNCIL, OTHER COMMENTS? >> I HAVE ONE MORE. SOME TRYING TO UNDERSTAND SINCE I HAVE ANY OF THESE OTHER EYE I CASSIDY ORDINANCES IN FRONT OF ME, WHAT WOULD BE RESTRICTING. WERE WE TALKING ABOUT AFTER HOURS RESIDENTIAL VERSUS AFTER HOURS COMMERCIALS SAY, TOM THUM IS DOING A REMODEL AT NIGHT IN THEIR NORMALLY NOT OPEN AND THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN AND DO A REMODEL AT NIGHT AND IT'S INSIDE THE BUILDING OR IS IT INSIDE A RESIDENTIAL ZONE WHERE THEY'RE BUILDING NEW HOUSES AND THE PAINTERS ARE IN THEIR PAINTING ALL NIGHT TRYING TO GE A HOUSE READY FOR THE NEXT DAY? >> GREAT QUESTION, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS WE CAN INTO WHATEVER RECOMMENDATIONS YOU PROVIDE IS CLEARLY ARTICULATE WHEN CONSTRUCTION IS OCCURRING ON TH EXTERIOR BECAUSE OF SOMEONE IS WORKING INSIDE QUIETLY, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE REALLY NEED TO RESTRICT THAT IN ANY WAY, BUT I THEY ARE REPLACING THE ROOF OR DELIVERING A BUNCH OF EQUIPMENT AT NIGHT, OR POURING 100 YARDS OF CONCRETE BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IT IN THE COOL EARLY MORNING HOURS, THAT'S REALLY WHAT WERE TRYING TO FOCU ON AND SO WE ARE OPEN TO RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW WE ENSUR THAT IT DOESN'T PENALIZE THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE ACTUALLY WORKING QUIETLY INSIDE. >> I WOULD SAY IF IT WERE A LEASE SITUATION, THAT IS COVERE IN THE LEASE. IT SAYS LOOK, HERE IS YOUR HOUR OF CONSTRUCTION, DON'T BOTHER THE TENANT NEXT DOOR TO YOU, LIVE WITH THESE RULES AND REGULATIONS, SO I THINK A TENAN LANDLORD, THAT IS PRETTY CLEAR. THIS IS MORE OF A DEVELOPMENT WHERE WE HAVE SOMEBODY BUILDING SOMETHING DOWNTOWN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, THE NEIGHBORS ARE COMPLAINING TO LIMIT THAT, I WOULD STRONGLY AGREE WITH THAT, OR YOU ARE POURING FOUNDATION A FOUNDATION NEXT TO AN EXISTING HOME AND MO IN THE MORNING THERE ARE 'CLOCK- CONSTRUCTION LIGHTS ON ET CETERA , ET CETERA, LOOMING THAT AS WELL. >> COUNCIL, IF I COULD INTERJEC FOR JUST A SECOND, I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE LOOKED AT IF WE CAN THIS WORD PERMIT NOT LOOK AT AT IT AS AN ONEROUS ACTION. IT IS IN FACT THE ABILITY TO ALLOW IF THERE IS EMERGENCY WOR IN THE SENSE THAT WOULD SAY THERE IS EQUIPMENT THAT NEEDS T BE DELIVERED OR THEY ARE ON A DEADLINE WE MEAN TO MAKE SURE THESE GAS CAN KEEP MOVING, BUT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE RESIDENCE AND RESIDENTS HAVE CALLED AND COMPLAINED SAYING WHY IS THERE CONSTRUCTIO HAVING SO MUCH WEIGHT IN THE OU VIAS OUR SO MUCH LIGHT OUT THERE . OUR GOAL IS TO WORK WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND ENSUR THAT IF THEY HAVE EXTERIOR WORK [03:05:03] THAT REQUIRES CERTAIN TYPES OF LIGHTING NOISE AND ACTIVITY, WE ARE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS, WITH THE TERMS ARE, HOW LON FOR AND THEN WE CAN COMMUNICATE WITH THE PHONE CALLS AND INQUIRIES WE GET. THE PURPOSE IS TO AGAIN STREAMLINE THE PROCESS, NOT BOTTLENECK THEM INTO DEVELOPMEN AND HAVE A PROCESS WHERE THEY ARE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO US AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY. >> I DON'T THINK I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS, JUST LIKE I THINK WHAT YOU STATED A WHILE AGO, IF SOMEONE COMES TO INJURY RIGHT NOW, HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY RECOURSE OTHER THAN TO SAY SORRY , YOU CAN'T DO WORK BECAUSE IT'S BEFORE 7:00 O'CLOCK A.M. O IF IT'S AFTER 10:00 P.M., SO I THINK THIS JUST GIVES HIM THE LEVERAGE TO BE ABLE TO STATE YO CAN DO THIS, HERE'S THE PROCESS COMING YEARS THE PERMIT, AND THAT COVERS THE DEVELOPER COVER THE CITY AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND ON THINK I HAVE A WITH THIS. >> I WOULD SAY OUR PERMIT FEE SHOULD BE MORE THAN $25. >> SYLVESTER STRIKE TO GET SOME CONSENSUS ON WHETHER WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS SO THEY HAVE SOME DIRECTION. CHRIS, WHAT IS YOUR FEELING ON ADDING THIS TO OUR ORDINANCES? >> OBVIOUSLY YOU NEED SOME GUIDELINES BRADY HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING. I THINK THERE'S GOING TO HAVE T BE A LOT OF INTERPRETATION AS T HOW YOU MAKE THAT WORK FOR RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL. I'M REALLY BIG ON THAT AREA, A LOT OF THOSE CONSTRUCTION GUYS AND MY WORLD HAVE DONE THAT COMEAU PARK AT NIGHT SO THERE'S GOT TO BE DEFINITIONS OF WHAT THAT REALLY IS, NOT TO MENTION THE FACT OF THE DEFINITION OF EMERGENCY. WHAT IS AN EMERGENCY. WHAT HAPPENS IF A FIRE HAS TO AND THEY COMMEND LATE-NIGHT ENCLOSED OF THE HOUSE. HOW DO YOU GET A PERMIT WORKING FOR THAT ONE? YOU CAN'T DO THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS, THIS FEES, OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU HAVE RESIDENCE AND NOISE INVOLVED, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF AN ORGANIZATIONAL GUIDELINE TO WORK WITHIN, AGAIN I HATE FOR US TO PUT IN THE SITUATION WHERE THE INTERPRETATION IS WELCOME IF YO GIVE THEM SOME MONEY, I WILL LEAVE YOU ALONE. I THINK THEIR JUST HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF UNDERSTANDING WHEN YOU'RE DELIVERING THIS PIECE GREAT OBVIOUSLY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU KEEP SOME GUIDELINES HERE, BUT THE REALITY IS YOU HAVE TO GET VERY SPECIFIC IN MY MIND, RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, AND THE DEFINITION OF EMERGENCY. WHAT IS THAT FEE FOR AN EMERGENCY? OVERALL, THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING IN PLACE AND THERE'S NOTHING IN PLACE TODAY. SOMETHING HAS GOT TO BE DONE. >> OVERALL THE ANSWER IS YES, BUT IT KIND OF GETS INTO WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE. >> WE WILL GET THERE. >> FURTHER DISCUSSION, YES. PICKY I'M PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE ONLY ONE, I BELIEVE WE HAVE ORDINANCES IN PLACE RIGHT NOW THAT WILL ADDRESS THESE CONCERN JUST LIKE WE SAID, WE DON'T HAV WHAT WE WOULD BE PERMITTING AT NIGHT AND WHERE THESE PLACES WOULD BE PERMITTED WITHOUT KNOWING THIS I COULDN'T GIVE YO ANYTHING. WITHOUT KNOWING THAT, I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR. >> BEAR IN MIND, I EXPECT THERE TO BE ANOTHER WORK SESSION ON THIS WITH THE ORDINANCE LANGUAG SO WE CAN REFINE IT FROM THERE. THIS IS JUST TO GAUGE INTEREST AND MAYBE GET SOME VERY HIGH LEVEL DETAILS VERY. >> IF I GET MORE INFORMATION, I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO SEE IT AND CHANGE MY MIND. >> OKAY. >> THAT'S WHERE I'D FALL. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LOT OF DEFINITIONS, REALLY JUST LIKE EMERGENCY, I HAVE HAD THAT HAPPEN, WATER HEATER GO OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT THAT IS A NOISY MESS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME DEFINITIONS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM WRITTEN, AND THE NIGHT BEFORE IT. >> THINK I'VE STATED I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM GOING FORWARD WITH THIS AND GET TO THE NUTS AND BOLTS WHEN THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO DEVELOP IT OUT. OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD BE LOOKING FOR AND THAT A THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DOCUMENT WHY THAT'S THE ONLY TIME THEY CAN'T DO THAT. THEY CAN'T DO IT DURING THE DAY HERE ARE THE REASONS WHY I HAVE TO DO IT AT 1:00 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING OR WHATEVER. >> EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES. >> I AM FINE WITH GOING FORWARD WITH IT. >> I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVIN THIS CONVERSATION IN SEEING AN ACTUAL ORDINANCE WOULD LOOK LIKE . TO GET MY ARM IS DISLOCATED FRO BEING TWISTED. HAVING SAID THAT, I DO THINK OF FAILURE HOSPITAL IN I THINK OF EMERGENCY SITUATION WHERE ANYTHING HAPPENS, 24/7, CRITICA [03:10:03] CLAIRE, BLAH BLAH BLAH, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CHOICE. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE PROPOSE HAS THAT KIND OF FLEXIBILITY AND PROTECT OUR CITIZENS, BUT ALSO PROTECTS OUR BUSINESSES. >> MY ONLY FEEDBACK ON THAT WOULD BE IN EVERY ONE OF OUR ORDINANCES, THROUGHOUT THE CITY STAFF HAS DISCRETION. IF YOU'RE PULLED OVER FOR SPEEDING, A POLICE OFFICER HAS DISCRETION. THESE TYPES OF ORDINANCES, AND SITUATION LIKE THAT, I WOULD THINK OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS OR POLICE OFFICERS WIT EXERCISE DISCRETION KNOWING THA THAT SITUATION HAS COMPLETELY GONE SIDEWAYS. IN YOUR EXAMPLE OF A HOSPITAL O SOME CATASTROPHIC SITUATION, BU I LIVE WHAT YOU'RE THINKING WIT THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S VER VALID. I WILL ALSO SUPPORT IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR ANSWERS ON THE FEE, AND OTHER THINGS THERE, I THINK REALLY I WOULD ASK YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THE ENCUMBRANC IS ON STAFF, WHAT STAFF TIME IS REQUIRED HERE. WE SHOULD BE REALLY RECOUPING THAT AND MY MIND FOR THIS FEE. IN LESS THE FEE IS DESIGNED TO INHIBIT PEOPLE USING THIS PROCESS, WE HAVE SET FEES FOR CERTAIN THINGS THAT SHORT-TERM WE HAVE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL FEE THAT IS QUITE HIGH WITH THE INTENT OF JUST INCENTIVIZING THAT TYPE OF USE. IF WE ARE INTENDING TO DO THAT COMETH IN THE MESQUITE FEE OF $200 IS PROBABLY MORE IN LINE FOR COSTA RICA PLAY FEE AND THE SIMPLE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL IS $50, THEN THE FEE SHOULD BE $50, BUT I WOULD LEAN ON STAFF CAN INFECT US WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT. ANY OTHER ASK FROM THE COUNCIL AT THIS POINT? >> NO, JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. >> COUNCIL, ANY OTHER FEEDBACK, COMMENTS, OR QUESTIONS? ANDREW, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU MAY BE PRESENTING ARE NEXT [3.F. Receive a presentation regarding proposed amendments to the Rowlett Development Code (RDC) and Form Based Code (FBC) regarding requirements for a Special Use Permit for Data Centers. ] ITEM TO. WE WON'T MOVE TO ITEM THREE F RECEIVE A PRESENTATION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT CODE AND FORM -BASE GOLD REQUIRING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR DATA CENTERS. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. I BELIEVE WE WERE BEFORE YOU A FEW WORK SESSIONS I GO TO START THE DISCUSSION ON DATA CENTERS AND WE GOT SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU REGARDING WHAT ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE INCORPORATED IN AN ORDINANCE. IN YOUR POCKET AS A DRAFT ORDINANCE, AND ONLY ONLY ARTICULATES THAT THAT THE CODE TYPICALLY MIMICS THAT, THAT WAS JUST A DRAFT TO GIVE YOU A SEMBLANCE OF WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SEP WOULD B APPLYING FOR. MICHAEL THAT THAT IS TO WALK YO THROUGH THE ORDINANCE AND FROM THERE I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TRY T ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> BEFORE YOU GET TOO FAR IN THIS PRESENTATION LET ME JUST ASK THE QUESTION BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE ASKED, TO BE HAVE ANY DATA CENTERS THAT HAVE APPLIED FOR ZONING VARIANCE OR PERMITTING OR ANYTHING LIKE THA HERE IN OUR CITY. >> NOT AT THIS TIME. WE DO SEE IT HAPPENING IN CITIE IN OUR AREA AND GETTING AHEAD O THAT BY HAVING AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE IS A MUCH MORE TACTFUL WA TO HANDLE THE SITUATION BUT. >> ABSOLUTELY, OUR GOAL MOVING FORWARD AS IF WE SEE NEW LAND USES, NEW DEVELOPMENT TRENDS THAT PRESENT DRAFT ORDINANCES T THE CITY COUNCIL ENTERPRISE THE CITY COUNCIL AND OUR COMMUNITY OF NEW TRENDS THAT WE SEE, THE DATA CENTER IS A RELATIVELY NEW LAND USE IN TERMS OF THE SPATIA COMPONENTS AND ASPECTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THAT BEING SAID, THE DRAFT ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF YOU BASICALLY WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR DATA CENTERS WITHIN THE FOREIGN-BASE CODE AND THE DEVELOPMENT CODE, BUT ONLY SPECIFIC TO CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS. CURRENTLY WE DO NOT HAVE A DEFINITION FOR DATA CENTERS WITHIN OUR ORDINANCES AND I BEG YOUR PARDON, LET ME GO BACK HERE . ONE OF THE COMPONENTS, COUNCIL IF YOU RECALL IS REQUIRING AS UPN ASSOCIATED REGULATION DEVELOPMENT WITH THAT SO WE WOULD HAVE TO QUANTIFY OUR DEVELOPING CODE AND THE FOREIGN-BASED GOLD ONE, TOO, TO DEFINE THE USE AND TO IN OUR SCHEDULE OF USES REQUIRE THE SE AND THEN THIRD, CREATE THOSE [03:15:01] DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. WE HAVE MENTIONED THAT WE WANT TO BE PROACTIVE AND CREATE DEPARTMENT REGULATIONS, COUNCIL YOU HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE AS WELL, THIS IS WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DOING THEY REQUIRE SU PIECE IN SOME OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS FOR COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS AND THEY'VE ALSO CREATED THE DEFINITION FOR SUCH DATA CENTERS. THE SAME THING APPLIES TO THE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE REFERENCE BELOW. I'M NOT GOING TO READ THOSE FOR YOU, THIS IS JUST A SHOW WE KNO THERE ARE OTHER COMMUNITIES IN OUR AREA THAT ARE WORKING ON THESE REGULATIONS. THE DEFINITION OF A DATA CENTER WILL BE A FACILITY BUILDING CAMPUS PORTION OF THE BUILDING OR GROUP OF BUILDINGS TO HOUSE, OPERATE AND MANAGE, PROCESS, STORE, TRANSMIT. ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE SYSTEMS TELECOMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT, BLOCKED CHANCES, CO- LOCATION SYSTEMS, OR, SIMILAR DIGITAL INFRASTRUCTURE. FEAR HE BROUGHT DEFINITION TO CAPTURE THE FUNCTIONS OF DATA CENTERS. THE TABLE OF USES IDENTIFYING THOSE SPECIFIC ZONING DISTRICTS SEP, WOULD BE REQUIRED IN THE M AND M2 WHICH IS LIKE MANUFACTURING IN GENERAL MANUFACTURING AND THE DEVELOPMENT CALLED AND THEN THE FOREIGN-BASED CODE. I WANT TO TOUCH ON THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS OR REQUIREMENTS ONE OF COURSE BEIN NOISE AND VIBRATION, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT EARLIER, BUT SOUND ABSORPTIVE AREAS THAT WOULD APPLY TO NOT JUST THE BUILDING ITSELF, BUT ALSO FOR INSTANCE, SCREENING, LOOKING AT THOSE ASPECTS, THE BUILDING HEIGHT, LIMITATIONS, THOSE ARE CURRENTLY ADDRESSED BY THE ZONING DISTRICTS IN THEY CAN ALSO BE MEMORIALIZED AND MODIFIED AS PART OF THE SEP CONDITIONS. VISUAL BUFFERS THAT I MENTIONED HARDSCAPE AND LANDSCAPING, BUILDING DESIGN, EXTERIOR FINISHES, LIGHTING, SCREENING AND VISUAL IMPACTS, AGAIN LIMITING THOSE TYPES OF VISUAL IMPACTS MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT IS NOT EXPOSED, SECURITY LINING, ALL O THOSE ELEMENTS WOULD BE FORMED AND REFLECTED ON SITE PLAN TO ENSURE THAT THERE WERE NO VISUA IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. BUILDING SETBACKS, ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF THIS ORDINANC WOULD BASICALLY REQUIRE THAT DATA CENTERS COULD NOT BE LOCATED WITHIN 3,000 FEET OF EXISTING RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE, NOR COULD THEY BE LOCATED WITHI 'S DISTRICT, AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT, RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE AREA, AND THAT WOULD BE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR PROPERTY DESIGNATED BY THE PLAN AS I MENTIONED IN AGEE'S O RESIDENTIAL USE AND ALSO NOT LOCATED WITHIN A MILE OF A SCHOOL, CHURCH, DAYCARE, PARK, AND THOSE PUBLIC SPACES ARE LISTED FOR YOUR REFERENCE. USE OF BEST PRACTICES AS IT RELATES TO WATER CAPTURE PROVIDING FOR INSTANCE A CLOSED LOOP SYSTEM REQUIRING A THIRD-PARTY INSPECTION, THIS COULD BE THE ONLY ONE ARE OPERATED THAT THEY SUBMITTED IN THE NEXT SECTION REPORT ANNUALL OF ALL THAT NOISE VISUAL AND RESOURCE USE TO THE CITY FOR THEIR RECORD. USE OF BEST PRACTICE, I FIGURED I APOLOGIZE, COUNCIL, THAT IS REPEATED. ONE OF THE COMPONENTS PART OF THIS AS THE ORDINANCE WOULD BE DECOMMISSIONING AND SITE RESTORATION, ENSURING THAT IT WAS A SAFE AND ORDERLY MANNER BRIGHT IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED T DECOMMISSIONING UPON THE OCCURRENCE OF ANY OF THESE FOUR FACTORS. PERMANENT SENSATIONS OF THAT. DISCONTINUANCE OF SUBSTANTIALLY OR OUTDATED PROCESSING OPERATIONS FOR PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS, A CONTINUOUS PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS IN THEN THE VERIFICATION OR TERMINATION OF THE APPROVALS ASSOCIATED WITH IT . FOR 30TH THIS, IF THERE WAS JUS COMMISSIONING OF SITE RESTORATION REQUIRED, THE PLAN WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE HOUSED WITH THE CITY, ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED UNLESS THEY WERE PART OF THE REDEVELOPMENT PLANS AND OF COURSE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW THE ASIAN AND A FORM OF MITIGATION WOULD BE REQUIRED IF THERE IS MATERIALS RESULTED IN CONTAMINATION, SITE RESTORATION BRINGING THE PROPERTY BACK TO GRADE AND THEN HAVING A TIMELIN ASSOCIATED WITH THE RESTORATION SITE RESTORATION OF 180 DAYS. [03:20:05] COUNCIL, THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES ART NOUVEAU BECAUSE THES WERE COMPONENTS THAT WERE BROUGHT FORWARD AND THE LAST WORK SESSIONWHERE THERE WAS DISCUSSION ON AND IN THIS INSTANCE, A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE OPERATOR WOULD HAV TO PROVIDE THIS INSURANCE. THIS COULD BE A MAJORITY BOND A LETTER OF CREDIT, ESCROW, OR AN OTHER FORM APPROVED BY THE CITY. THE AMOUNT OF THE FINANCIAL ASSURANCE AS TO BE EQUAL, NOT LESS THAN 125 PERCENT OF THE ESTIMATED COST TO FULLY DECOMMISSION THE FACILITY AND RESTORE THE PROPERTY. THE NEXT COMPONENT OR REQUIREMENT WOULD BE OF RECORDE CONFIDENCE. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE DO NOT ENFORCE DEED RESTRICTION OR COVENANTS, THE CITY DOES NOT DO THAT, HOWEVER IN THIS INSTANCE, WE CAN REQUIRE THAT A COVENANT BE RECORDED AND FILED WITH THE CITY. WE WOULDN'T ENFORCE THAT THAT I WOULD BE ON THE LAND. WHAT IT DOES IS IT BASICALLY ALLOWS THE OWNER, POTENTIALLY THE OPERATOR TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE EXTRA CHECKS AND BALANCES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. WITH THAT, COUNCIL, OUR GOAL IS TO SEE IF THERE IS CONSENSUS TO PROCEED WITH THE ORDINANCE AND THE DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS, WOULD YOU LIKE US TO COME BACK WITH MORE INFORMATION OR BASICALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU'RE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE? >> COUNCIL, WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE? >> AGAIN, ANOTHER WONDERFUL PRESENTATION. WHEN I WAS READING THE PACKET, THOUGHT I SAW SOMETHING ABOUT THE DEVELOPER BUILDING, THEY HA THREE YEARS FOR ALL LANDSCAPING THAT IS USED TO SHOW UP BUT THE I SAW A CITIZENS INPUT, THE ACTUALLY MADE SENSE TO ME THAT THREE YEARS IS A LONG TME AND SCREENING AND IT REALLY SHOULD BE REQUIRED AT THE TIME OF OCCUPANCY THAT THE SCREENING BE EFFECTIVE IF INSTEAD OF WAITING A THREE-YEAR PERIOD. >> I TO READ THAT AND I DO CONCUR, HOWEVER MOST ORDINANCES AND I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO ASSESS PERHAPS A DIFFERENT TIMELINE, BUT ALLOW THE PLANTS TO GROW, ALLOW THE LIVE VEGETATION TO GROW DEPENDING ON PLANTING SEASON AS WELL. WE COULD SHRINK THAT REQUIREMENTS IN SOME COMMUNITIE WITHIN 18 MONTHS HE HAVE TO HAV A CERTAIN HEIGHT OF HEDGE. THE PLANTING OF YOUR TREES, IT MAY BE HAVING A DIFFERENT SPECIES THAT GROWS FASTER, SO ALL OF THOSE ELEMENTS CAN BE BROUGHT FORWARD IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE HARDSCAPE. I WOULD CONCUR THAT THREE YEARS COULD BE TOO LONG AND WE CAN REVISE THAT REQUIREMENT. >> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS. IN QUEUE. FIRST OF ALL, COULD IN EXISTING LET'S SAY WAREHOUSE THAT MIGHT BE BEHIND AN ICE CREAM STORE IN ROBINETTE, COULD THAT POSSIBLY BE CONVERTED TO A DATA CENTER OVERNIGHT AND SUDDENLY WE ARE SEEING EQUIPMENT BEING PUT IN, AIR CONDITIONING COULD THAT JUS HAPPEN? >> IN INSTANCES WITHOUT AN ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES THE SEP POTENTIALLY IT COULD IF THE USE PERMITTED IN THE ZONING ALLOW THAT TYPES OF USE. I KNOW WE DON'T TO FIND DATA CENTER, BUT IN THIS INSTANCE THERE IS A CODE SECTION IT SAYS FOR USES NOT DEFINED, AND THEN THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT USE CATEGORY IT FIT IN AND IF IT DOESN'T, THEY CAN BRING FORWARD AN AMENDMENT. LET'S SEE WE HAVE THAT SUPPOSED VACANT WAREHOUSE BUILDING BEHIN THE ICE CREAM SHOP. AND IT'S BEEN QUANTIFIED AND MEMORIALIZED IN OUR ORDINANCES, THEN THEY CANNOT DO THAT WITHOU FIRST APPLYING FOR AN SUV. TO KEEP THE LANDS, THEY COME IN THEY TELL YOU WHAT THEY'RE GOIN TO DO AND THEN YOU GET AN SUV, THINK THAT RESTRICTION IS OF COURSE TOP OF MIND, BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE CONSCIOUS OF THOSE EXISTING FACILITIES SO THAT ONE DAY THEY DON'T JUST ALL OF A SUDDEN APPEAR AND WE HAVE AN ISSUE THAT WE WEREN'T PREPARED [03:25:01] FOR A. >> IT IS APPLICABLE TO THE LAND USE NO MATTER WHAT IS ON-SITE, AND IN THAT INSTANCE, A SEAL WOULD NOT BE ISSUED WITHOUT AN ISSUANCE OF A COP. >> THAT SECOND QUESTION I HAVE COME UP WITH AN OVERLAY DISTRIC HELP US CONTROL THAT LAND USE FOR POTENTIAL DATA CENTERS? >> ABSOLUTELY IT COULD. AND THIS INSTANCE BECAUSE THERE IS DISCUSSION OF AN SUV, THEN I WOULD SEND AND SERVE THAT SAME PURPOSE, BUT IT WOULD COME BACK TO THE OVERLAYS. YES. >> I THINK THAT SOMETHING WE MIGHT WANT TO DISCUSS IS THE OVERLAY. AND THEN, I REALLY APPLAUD YOU FOR LISTENING TO US ON THE DECOMMISSIONING FEES. IT IS NOT UNCOMMON TO SHUT DOWN ONE OF THESE, MOVE OUT, AND YOU ARE LEFT WITH ALL KINDS OF ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES FROM DRAINAGE, THEY HAVE HUGE BATTERIES AND THOSE DO ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I HEARD YOU SAY THAT THERE WOULD BE SURETY BONDS, ET CETERA, HOW YOU CALCULATE ALL OF THAT I THINK I THE DEVIL IN THE DETAILS, BUT W WANT TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT HOW WE PUT THOSE RESTRICTONS IN ON THE FRONT END RELATING TO AN DATA CENTER. AND THEN I THINK THERE SHOULD B ALSO SOME STATE CERTIFICATIONS, THEY CAN'T MOVE OUT OF THE STAT UNTIL THEY MEET ALL OF THESE CRITERIA IN IT IS RESTORED TO ITS ORIGINAL CONDITION. THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL, OTHER QUESTIONS? SUPPORTIVE OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS AT A FUTURE MEETING? >> I THINK ALL IN ALL, PROPOSIN THAT IT WILL REQUIRE AN ISSUE PEAK, SOMETHING THAT LEADS IT BACK TO US I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF TRYING TO PUT A LOT OF REQUIREMENT. WE BOTH HAD THAT DISCUSSION BEFORE ABOUT WHAT THE DEFINITIO OF A DATA CENTER IS, BUT WITH ALL THESE PIECES COME ABSOLUTELY . WE NEED TO SUPPORT A PLAN FOR THAT. >> OKAY. I THINK YOU HAVE YOUR CONSENSUS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT CONCLUDES ITEM THREE F. [4.Discuss Consent Agenda Items for October 20, 2026, City Council Meeting] WE HAVE ONE MORE EXECUTIVE S INSIGHT AND BERTLETT STUUT DISCUSS CONCERNS GIANT ITEMS FO THE OCTOBER 20TH, 2026 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. WHERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR DO WE WANT TO PULL ANY OF THOSE ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION? >> I DON'T HAVE THAT OTHER AGENDA IN FRONT OF ME THERE WER TO IN THERE I THINK IT WAS KIND OF CONNECTED ON THE MOTOROLA RADIO AND THE I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR THAT. >> SO I AM SEEING. >> 4K? THE PUBLIC RADIO SYSTEM IS 4K AND YOU SAID THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE? >> THE ONE ABOVE THAT I BELIEVE. IF YOU COULD HAVE THE CHIEF JUS TO BOTH OF THOSE. >> THEY BOTH KIND OF WORK TOGETHER. >> ACCOUNT NUMBER THE PLAT ONE. >> I THINK IT'S FOUR B. >> THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE THESE KINDS OF THINGS HAPPENED. THESE ARE BIG-TICKET ITEMS. I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR PEOPLE TO SEE. >> WE WILL PULL FOUR B, WHICH I THE RADIOS THEMSELVES IN 4K WHICH IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND PLATFORM BACK IN. AND YOU WANT A PRESENTATION ON THAT ITEM? >> YES. >> WOULD THEY BE AVAILABLE TO D THAT? OKAY. ANY OTHER ITEMS, COUNCIL? SEE NONE, ONE SECOND. TIMEOUT. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> FOUR B WAS THE RADIOS. FOUR C IS THE INVESTMENT POLICY. FOUR D IS THE INVESTMENT ADVISORY AGREEMENT. FOR EE IS ADDITIONAL ENGINEERIN SOCIALIST FOR F IS A RESOLUTION EXPRESSING INTENT TO LEASE CUSTOM PROJECTS, 4G IS PURCHASE AND RATIFYING THE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION OF EMERGENCY GENERATORS SPRAYED FOR AGE IS I'LL EIGHT WITH NTA, IS THAT TH [03:30:03] ONE YOU WANTED? >> I THINK IT WAS RELATED TO TH RADIOS. >> THINK IT'S EMBEDDED IN THE RADIO SYSTEM. >> [INDISCERNIBLE] >> IS IT TO SEPARATE ITEMS OR I IT TOGETHER? THERE IS THE RADIOS AND THEN THERE'S THE INFRASTRUCTURE. OF THE BOND PAYMENT METHOD IS INCLUDED WITH THE ITEM. OKAY. DON'T WORRY, I'LL ASK TOMORROW IF THERE IS SOMETHING YOU WANT BOLD, BY ALL MEANS HAVE IT PULLED TOMORROW, IT WILL BE OKAY . OKAY. IF YOU DO HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT BOLD, IF YOU COULD E-MAIL ME THREAT TO DAVE AND THEN WE CAN MAKE SURE. THANK YOU. [5.Executive Session (Part 3 of 3)] NO WORRIES. ANY OTHER ITEMS TO PULL? WITH THAT WE WILL MOVE TO ART VERY FINAL EXECUTIVE ITEM OF TH DAY. FIVE JICAMA CITY COUNCIL SHOW CONVENE INTO CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION. CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT, EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT, DUTIES DISCIPLINE OR DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICE OR EMPLOYEE TO WHICH IT IS 11:1L * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.