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HD492(CC1) #2239 OKAY.

[CALL TO ORDER]

OKAY. GOOD EVENING. WE WILL CALL THE WORK SESSION TO DISCUSS AGENDA ITEMS OR PLANNING AND ZONING BUSINESS. I GUESS AT THIS TIME, DO YOU

[2A. Discuss Agenda Items.]

HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO PUT OUT DURING THIS WORK SESSION? >> NOT AT THIS TIME.

THE NEXT TIME WE WILL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHEN WE OPEN UP. WE WILL DIVE STRAIGHT INTO THE

ITEM ON OUR REGULAR AGENDA TO GO OVER THAT. >> AND MS. HALLMARK SAYS THERE

ARE NO PUBLIC SPEAKERS FOR THE REGULAR MEETING. >> YES, SIR.

OKAY THEN, COMMISSIONERS, EVERYBODY GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE ONE ITEM BASICALLY A TREE

MITIGATION ITEM. >> NONE OF THESE NUMBERS ADD UP TO ME.

I'M SORRY, JOHN YOU WERE SAYING? >> I OBVIOUSLY AM UNABLE TO DO SIMPLE MATH NOWADAYS.

>> WHY IS THAT? >> THESE NUMBERS ARE NOT ADDING UP CORRECTLY.

>> SO, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN THE NUMBERS TO YOU ALL.

I WILL ALSO EXPLAIN TO YOU IN YOUR PRESENTATION. A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT, WHAT REALLY COUNTS AS PROTECTED TREES CLASSIFIED AT PROTECTED TREES. FOR THE PROTECTED TREES THAT ARE TO REMAIN, THAT WILL BE 1291 CALIPER INCHES AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REMOVE 1189 CALIPER INCHES. FROM THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE A CODE, THERE'S A CREDIT THEY MY

RECEIVE FOR EVERY TREE THEY'RE KEEPING. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WHEN YOU START TALKING NUMBERS, THERE'S 206 PROTECTED TREES FOR A TOTAL OF 1291 CALIPER INCHES.

>> THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE 1291. >> LESS THE 82 PROTECTED TREES THEY'RE GOING TO REMOVE.

WHEN I ADD 82 AND 102, THAT DOESN'T COME UP WITH -- >> YES.

IF I CAN INTERJECT. IF WE CAN PUT THAT PRESENTATION UP, WE CAN EXPLAIN.

THE WAY THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN. IT ALMOST PRESCRIBES A FORMULA THAT YOU HAVE TO WORK OUT AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THAT THE PRESERVATION IS ONLY FOR PROTECTED TREES. IF ANY OF YOUR TREES ARE HEALTHY OR UNDAMAGED AND EVEN PROTECTED, THEY DON'T QUALIFY AND SO I THINK THE MISSING LINK IN THE NARRATIVE, IN THE REPORT THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE 22 TREES THAT ARE ACTUALLY DAMAGED.

THAT'S WHERE THE MATH GETS VAGUE IS THE BEST WAY TO PUT IT. WHAT WE DID IN THE PRESENTATION, WE REFINED THAT. BECAUSE IN OUR HEAD, IT'S IT FLOWED ACCURATELY AND THAT PIECE TO MAKE SURE THE NUMBERS ACTUALLY JIVE, THAT NEEDED TO BE INCORPORATED.

AS WE READ THE ORDINANCE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STANDS OUT IS BASICALLY IF YOU REMOVE TREES LESS THAN WHAT YOU PRESERVED, THERE IS NO MITIGATION REQUIREMENT BECAUSE

WE THE ORDINANCE ALLOW YOU TO OFF SET THAT. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT, WHERE I HAVE A BIG PROBLEM IS WHERE THESE NUMBERS ON THIS PAGE DON'T ADD UP.

AND WHEN I ACTUALLY GO TO THE TREE MITIGATION PLAN AND START LOOKING AT TREES AND LOOKING AT COMMENTS IN THE TABLE, THEY'RE TOTALLY DIFFERENT. OKAY.

SO THEY'RE TAKING OUT PROTECTED TREES BUT NOT REMOVING THEM FROM THEIR TOTAL CALIPER NUMBER.

AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT IT APPEARS ON THE TABLE. >> OKAY.

SO, TARA, YOU JUST NODDED SO I'M NOT GOING TO INTERFERE. WHY DON'T WE SPEAK TO THAT AND

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EXPLAIN PERHAPS IF COMMISSIONER COTE CAN EXPLAIN. >> YOU SAW THAT ON THE TREE

MITIGATION PLAN ITSELF? >> RIGHT. OKAY.

LET ME EXPLAIN OR LET ME DEMONSTRATE ONE OF THOSE. >> OKAY.

FIRST LET'S MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THIS BECAUSE IF I GO DOWN HERE TO THE TABLE, WHICH JUST LISTS THE TREES AND THEIR CALIPER INCHES, THEIR SPECIES, WHEN THEY STAY OR REMOVED.

WE LINE THROUGH THEM. RIGHT? OKAY.

SO, WHEN YOU GO UP TO THE DRAWING, AND I LOOK AT TREE NUMBER 1627, AND FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T LOOKED YET, THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF LONG BRANCH BOULEVARD IS WHERE THE TREE IS.

HAS A BIG X ON IT. IT WILL GO AWAY. I GO DOWN TO THE TABLE AND SURE NUMBER IT'S DOWN THERE LISTED 1647 AND IT'S LINED THROUGH. THE TREE RIGHT ABOVE THAT IS TREE 1635. AND THERE'S A NICE BIG PROTECTED 15 INCH CALIPER TREE, THAT'S NOT ON THIS TABLE LINED THROUGH WHICH MEANS WE'RE SAVING THAT TREE, CORRECT?

>> CORRECT. ALSO TOO IN THE SECOND COLUMN YOU HAVE THERE THE LINES THEY HAVE PROPOSED ON THERE ARE ACTUALLY FOR UNPROTECTED TREES THAT THEY ARE REMOVING AND SO THOSE LINES THROUGH THE UNPROTECTED TREES ARE FOR UNPROTECTED TREES, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TABLE, THE SECOND COLUMN THAT SAYS WE MOVED AND PROTECTED WHERE THEY HAVE THE X OF REMOVED, THAT'S HOW YOU TELL THEY'RE BEING REMOVED. THE LINE IS THE UNPROTECTED TREES. IN YOUR OTHER COLUMN, YOUR THIRD COLUMN WHERE IT SAYS, FOURTH COLUMN WHERE IT'S REMOVED, THAT'S WHERE IT'S TELLING YOU IT'S BEING REMOVED.

>> SO THE LINE THROUGH IT? >> NO. ONLY THE ONES LINED THROUGH ARE THE ONES UNPROTECTED TREES. OFF THE BACK THAT DO NOT MEET THE PROTECTED TREE LIST OR THEY'RE EITHER PROHIBITED TREE LIST ON THE PROHIBITED TREE LIST.

>> OKAY. GO AHEAD TARA. >> THERE ARE TWO COLUMNS IN THERE, ONE SAYS REMAIN AND ONE SAYS REMOVE. SO THAT'S WHERE YOU REALLY WANT TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT IS ACTUALLY BEING REMOVED, THE ASTERISK LINE IS SAYING THAT'S UNPROTECTED AND

IN REALITY DOESN'T COUNT TO OUR CODE. >> IS THE DEVELOPER GOING TO BE

HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION? >> THEY ARE. >> THE DEVELOPER IS PRESENT.

IN REGULAR MEETING WE CAN SPEAK TO THAT. >> THAT'S FINE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE. I HAVE A QUESTION I WILL WAIT, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE WORK SESSION ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? I THINK THAT WAS IT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE GENERAL BUSINESS FOR THE WORK SESSION?

>> WELL, I GUESS WE CAN ADJOURN THE WORK SESSION AT THIS TIME AND RECONVENE, DO WE HAVE TO

WAIT UNTIL 6:45 OR JUST GO AHEAD AD CONVENE THE MEETING? >> THE TIMES ARE APPROXIMATE, LAURA. WHY DON'T YOU CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.

BUT THE FACT THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM THIS IS JUST AN INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION ITEM. AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY LETTERS IN OPPOSITION, I THINK WE CAN START FIVE MINUTES EARLY. DID YOU POST ON YOUR AGENDA THAT IT IS APPROXIMATE?

>> LET'S SEE HERE. LET ME JUST LOOK. TIMES ARE APPROXIMATE FOR THE WORK SESSION. CONVENE REGULAR SESSION AT 6:45. SO.

I GUESS WE WAIT. SO WE WILL CONVENE THE MEETING AT 6:45.

AT THIS

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.