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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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GOOD AFTERNOON. IT IS TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2020 AND 5 P.M.

AS AUTHORIZED OF THE TEXT GOVERNMENT CODE THE MEETING MAY BE CLOSED TO A CLOSED SESSION.

THE SEA RESERVEDS THE RIGHT TO CALL THE EXECUTIVE SESSION TO ORDER.

THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGERS HELD VIA TELECONFERENCEINGS WILL PUBLIC CAN VOW ON THE WEBSITE AND LISTEN LIVE BY CALLS 888-FOIF 50-352. WE HAVE ONE ITEM WE WILL

[2. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

CONSIDER THE REGULAR MEETING AND ANOTHER ITEM ROLLING THE REGULAR PORTION.

IL READ ITEM 2A IN THE RECORD. CONVENE TO SESSION. SECTION 551. 071 REGARDING THE PROPOSED HOUSING FINANCE PROJECT ON MAIN STREET. SO AT THIS TIME WE WILL LOAF THIS MEETING A WE'LL MOVE TO THE WORK SESSION WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC UPON COMMENTOS THE MEETING TONIGHT. SO WE WILL MOVE INTO YOU WANT TO GO IN THE ORDER.

BRIAN? MAYOR, IF YOU DON'T MIND. WE START WITH THREE D.

>> MAYOR: D AS IN DOG? >> COUNCILMEMBER: THREE D. THE HEDGE PROBLEM WITH

[3D. Discuss an option to enter into the Strategic Hedge Program (SHP) with the Texas Coalition for Affordable Power, Inc. (TCAP) and execute a Professional Services Agreement for TCAP to act as an agent on behalf of the City to enter into a contract for electricity purchases for service beginning in 2023 through TCAP. (20 minutes)]

AFFORDABLE POWER AND T CAP IT ACT AS AN AGENT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY FOR ELECTIC BEGINNING IN

2023 THROUGH T CAP? >> COUNCILMEMBER: I'LL KICK US OFF.

BILL STAR IS JOINING US. WE ARE ONE OF OVER 100 CITIES THAT PIP IN THE TEXAS AGGREGATE POWER GROUP. IT IS BASICALLY THE CITY'S POOL TOGETHER THEIR PURCHASING POWER FOR ELECTRIC POWER WE USE THIS TO SECURE CONTRANSACTS FOR POWER FOR THE CITY OF ROWLETT.

WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT CHANGE OUR STRATEGY GOING FORWARD TO PURCHASE POWER. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND KICK THIS OFF TO AND YOU WILL YOU EVERA WILL PULL UP THE SLIDE PRESENTATION AND BILL LET HER KNOW WHEN YOU WANT TO ADVANCE THE SLIDE.

YOU CAN ADVANCE OFF OF THIS. WE ARE T CAP. WE ARE A GROUCH POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS THAT BUY POWER. WE HAVE 166 MEMBERS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

ROWLETT HAS BEEN A MEMBER SINCE 2002. GOVERNED BY A BOARD OF 15 MEMBERS. YOU SEE THEM THERE THEY REPRESENT A VARIETY OF ECSTASY.

LARGE -- USERS, SMALL USERS, A FEW AT LARGE. OUR BOARD REPRESENTATIVES RANGE FROM FINANCE MANAGERS. CITY ATTORNEYS AND A MAYOR AND A CITY COUNCIL MAN.

WE HAVE A BROAD BOARD MEMBERS. NEXT, PLEASE. T SCALP A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION. WE DO BUY OUR POWER IN THE WHOLE SALE MARKET WE HAVE A UNIQUE ABILITY TO DO THIS WE'LL GO TO THE WHOLESALE. WE HAVE TO SLEEVE IT THROUGH A REP IN THE RETAIL MARKET WE BUY OUR POWER WHOLESALE. WE TAKE ALL OF OUR MEMBER'S LOADS 166 MEMBERS REPRESENTS 1.2 BILLION KILL WATT HOURS AND POOL THAT AND TAKE THIS TO THE MARKET AND GET FAVORABLE PROCESSING AND CONTRANSACT CONDITIONS. GRAPH IS THE UNIQUE ATTRIBUTES

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OF CITIES THAT MAKES US DESIRABLE. THE RED LINE IN THE USAGE FROM MID NIGHT ON THE LEFT OVER TO 11:59 P.M. ON THE RIGHT. AND THE USAGE OF THE GRID USAGE IS SHOWN IN RED AND T CAP IN THE BLUE. YOU SEE OVER NIGHT HOURS IT IS LOW AND RAMPS UP IN THE AFTERNOON HOURS AS IT GETS HOT AND PEOPLE GET OFF WORK AND GO HOME AND TURN AIR ON. CITIES ARE HIGH USERS AT NIGHT WHEN PRICE ARE LOWEST THE PRICE CURVE WILL FOLLOW THE USAGE. WE USE A LOT OVER NIGHT WHEN WE'RE PUMPING AND THE STREET LIGHTS COME O. OUR USAGE FALLS OFF AND STAY CONSISTENT IN THE DAY AND AS NIGHT COME WE PEEK UP. WE TAKE THAT TO THE MARKET AND MAKES US DESIRABLE.

WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO BID ON OUR LOAD THEY SEE THAT AND THEY. THEY SHOULD GET A GOOD PROCESS

THEY ARE USING AN OFF PEEK HOUR. NEXT SLIDE. >> FUTURE CONTRACT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT OUR CURRENT ENDS IN DECEMBER 2022. WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THE MARKET AND COME UP WITH A NEW OPTION WE THINK MAKES SENSE TO SAVE THE ECSTASY MORE MONEY.

>> WE LOOK AT THE ERCOT MARKET. BE AWARE PRICING CHANGES DAILY. IF YOU GET A QUOTE FOR PROCESSING IN THE MORNING YOU BETTER HAVE A CONTRACT EXECUTED IN THE AFTERNOON.

THE NEXT DAY ZOEL I NEW PRICE QUOTE. THAT IS THE WAY THE MARKET OPERATES. GOODS FOR 24 HOURS. SO IT IS A DIENEMYIC PRICE MARKET. AND BECAUSE OF THAT ONE OF THE THING THIS IS IS CRITICAL IS TIMING. TRYING TO FOIND THIS RIGHT TIME TO BUY ENERGY ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT BUYING A LONG-TERM CONTRACT FOR LIKE 5 YEARS.

THE NOW MANAGED SHOULD GET US IN THE MARKET WHEN PRICES ARE LOWEST AND E LIM NIP THE TIMING RISK I WAS DISCUSSING. NEXT, PLEASE. THIS IS A QUICK SLIDE TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHERE WE THINK THE FUTURE LOOKS BRIGHT. U.S. IS THE BIG PRODUCERS OF OIL. PRODUCTION ON THE LEFT AND PROCESSOTH RIGHT.

NATURAL GAS IS THE BLUE LINE. OIL IS ORANGE. NATURAL GAS ACCOUNTS FOR 50% OF ALL THE ELECT RITZITY IN TEXAS. WE HAVE LOW STABLE PRICES WE THINK THAT WILL HOLD FOR THE FUTURE. THIS SOME HOW PRICING LOOKS IN THE MARKET WHCHLT WE DID IS TOOK A PERIOD OF TIME. SUMMER OF 2018 AND DIVIDED PRICE QUOTES TO THE YOUR LOW INDIVIDUAL QUOTE WHEN YOU SAY GET A 5 YEAR CONTRACT PRICE FROM SOMEBODY IT IS A SERIES OF 5, ONE YEAR CONTRACTS THAT ARE AVERAGED. WHEN YOU LOOK AT A WELL SUPPLIED MARKET YOU SEE THIS PRICING BOTTOMS OUT THE SECOND OR THIRD YEAR OUT.

THE FIRST YEAR WE HAVE UNCERTAINTY AND HAS THE PRICES HIGHER.

YOU THINK ABOUT TODAY WE ARE IN A COVID ENVIRONMENT AND EVERYONE IS UNCERTAIN WHERE THE ECONOMY IS HEADED. WE THINK IN THE FUTURE TELL GET BETTER.

PROCESSES TAIL OFF. OFF TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE YOU SEE THE PRICES RISE.

REASON IS BECAUSE THERE IS A MARKET OF UNCERTAINTY WHAT THE FUTURE WILL BE.

THE SELLERS ARE GOING TO BUILD MORE PRICE INCREASE IN TO COVER THAT MARKET UNCERTAINTY.

AS THAT I WILL GO OUT IN TIME THEY PAY REMEMBER CURING CHARGES TO BUY ENERGY AND HOLD THEM AND

THE FINANCING CHARGES ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PRICE. >> WHEN WE SEE IN THE PAST, WE WERE BUYINGIFIY FEW ARE CONTRACTS GETTING AT AVERAGE IF WE FOCUS ON TRYING TO BUY THE SHORTER TERM WE CAN DPET A BETTER PRICE. THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF WHAT SHP

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DOES. NEXT? THANK YOU.

>> THIS SLIDE I WILL GO BACK TO TALK ABOUT TIMING THE MARKET. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS SLIDE, THE BLUE AM LINES REPRESENT A RANGE OF PRICES FOR ENERGY IN TEXAS SOME WE HAVE EXTREME LIKE IN 2011. WE SAW GOOD AMOUNT IN 18 AND 19. OTHER YEARS NOT SO MUCH.

TRYING TO TIME OUT WHEN IS THE RIGHT PRICE TO BUY CAN GET TRICKY.

IF YOU BUY ON AVERAGE, WHICH IS REPRESENTED BY RED LINES THE AVERAGE PRICE STAYS LOW AND STABLE. IT MAY AM VARY YEAR TO YEAR BUT FAIR LOW STABLE.

SHP WILL TRITO BUY ON THE AVERAGE BY BUYING OVER TIME IN SMALLER INCREMENTS.

I WILL SHOW THAT TO YOU. WE HOPE TO TABLIZE YOUR PRICE AND LOWER IT.

>> THE MECHANICS WERE OF HSHP ISSUE DIFFERENT THEN AND THERE WHEN YOUR USED TO WITH THE 5 YEAR FIXED CONTRANSACT IT IS A COMPETITIVE RFP PROCESS. WE HAVE OVER 20 SUPPLIERS WE CAN GO TO THAT VERY SOUND FINANCES WE'LL TAKE THE LOAD TO AND BID IT OUT AND COME BACK TO YOU WITH THE BEST PRICE FOR THE INREPRESENTS. BY DOING THE MULTIPLE RFP'S WE WILL AVOID TO TIME THE MARKET DID WE PICK THE RIGHT DAY FOR THE NEXT 5 YEARS.

YOP THIS IS DESIGNED TO FIT THE CITY AM NEEDS. TELL BE TIME HOE FOR YOU.

WE WILL BUY TWO YEAR IN VETERANS SO CAN YOU DO YOUR BUDGETING NEEDS.

DETERMINED00UE WILL ALWAYS BECAUSE YOU ARE OUT -- YOU WILL NOT BE FIND MARKET FALLS DOWN IN PRICE AND OUT OF THE MARKET. TAKE ADVANTAGE AREA. FINALLY TWICE A YEAR OFF RAMPS YOU CONVERT TO A FIXED PROCESS IF YOU DON'T SHP, WE CAN DO THIS.

AND WE WILL USE AM RENEWABLE ENERGY TRENDS TO MAKE IT ALL RENEWABLE.

THIS WILL BE A 100% RENEWABLE CONTRACT. IONEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

YOU DON'T WANT TO GO UPON TOO DEEP TELEGUEST TECHNICAL. WHEN YOU LOOK AT 2021 AND THE REASON WORE COMING NOW IS WE WILL PROCURING UNDER SHP FOR 23 IN 21 JANUARY.

START PURCHASES WITH INCREMENT IN 23 IN 21 I'M 2 YEARS AHEAD WE'LL HAVE YOU PROCURED YOU SEE THE DASH GOING TO MARCH EVER NEXT YEEK. MARCH OF 22 WE WILL TELL YOU YOUR 23 PROCESS BEFORE YOU GET IN TOO DEEP IN BUDGET FOR 2023. AND YOU CAN SEE IN JUNE AND DECEMBER, WE HAVE THE KIND OF CANDY CANE LOOKING LINES THOSE ARE YOUR PROSECUTE POSED OFF R.S. THOSE POINT IN TIME WILL COME TO YOU. AND GIVE I INDICATIVES WHEN YOU THINK THE PRICE WILL BE IF YOU WANT TO CONVERT YOU CAN CONVERT.

WHY NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO HAVE YOU I VERY FAVOR OKAY CONTRACT NOW.

YOU ARE CURRENTLY THREE.68 CENTS. THAT IS A VERY FAVORABLE CONTRACT AND GOOD DEAL. BUT DOES SHPMIC IT BETTER. WHEN WE LOCKED I WENT BECOME AND THOUGHT WHEN WE BOUGHT IN 2016 UNDER THE SHP APPROACH AND YOU CAN SEE THE RED EMBARRASS OF THE

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SHP PRICE YOU SEE WE SHOWED YOU THE WAY TO SAVE MONEY ROWLETT THEN THBLD.

IN 2018, 202017,000. AND LEFT YEAR WE HAD A BIT OF MARKET DISRUPTION WHEN COAL PLANTS WENT OFF THE MARKET. SAVINGS WOULD HAVE BEEN THREE TO 500 DOLLARS.

LOOK AT RECENT QUOTES WE ARE THINKING THE SAVINGS WILL BE GREATER THAN THIS IN THE 40 TO 60 KPER YEAR RANGE. AND THAT LOOKS REAL GOOD. SO, THERE ARE SAVINGS WE CAN GET OUT THERE. USING THIS APPROACH. NEXT SLIDE.

TO WRAP IT UP. WE HAVE A BRIGHT FUTURE. THINGS ARE LOOKING STABLE.

A NEW PROP AVAILABLE TO BUY UNDER FHP. IT IS STRUCTUREED BUY WHEN YOUR PROCESS IS MOST ADVANTAGED AND AVOID GUESSING WHEN THE RIGHT TIME OF THE MARKET IS.

IT IS ALL RENEWABLE AND FLEXIBLE IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT YOU CAN CHANGE AND HAVE A COUPLE TIMES A YEAR YOU GET TO DO THIS. IOTHIS IS THE PROGRAM WE ARE PROPOSING AND WHAT IS BEFORE I IS THE ENABLING DOCUMENTS TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. BECAUSE IF Y'ALL JOIN IN, WE'LL START THIS PROCESS IN JANUARY OF OF 2021. MAY I ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. GI KNOW ONE QUESTION WE'LL HAVE IS HOW MANY CITIES HAVE SIGNED

UP FOR THIS PROGRAM SO FAR? >> SO FAR WE ARE RUNNING BEHIND BECAUSE OF COVID BUT SO FAR 90

MEMBERS THIS SIGNED UP. >> THANK YOU AND ONE THAT IS SAID THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO

TO A FIXED PRICE. >> MAYOR: COUNCIL I WILL LET YOU KNOW THIS PRESENTATION OF GIVEN TO THE FINANCE SUBCOMMITTEE WE SUPPORT TODAY AND RECOMMENDING ADOPTION TO THE FULL COUNCIL.

OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR QUESTIONS OR COMMENT FIST YOU HAVE THEM.

MARTHA? >> I DO HAVE A COMMENT. THIS IS MORE FOR THE PUBLIC.

SOMETIMES I THINK THEY LOOK AT THE CHARTS AND FIGURES AND A LITTLE LOST IN THEM.

BUT THIS IS A WAY BASICALLY THEY PURCHASE MY ELECTRIC FOR MY HOME.

YOU PAY A COMPANY CERTAIN FEE PER MONTH TO SHOP FOR THE BEST PROCESS FOR AND YOU SO -- REALLY, THIS IS JUST APPLYING THAT SAME CONCEPT TO OUR CITY AND SO I FULLY SUPPORT IT.

I HAVE DONE IT FOR SEVERAL YEARS FOR MY OWN PERSONAL ELECTRIC CONTRANSACT AND SAVED LOTS OF MONEY. I'M ALL FOR IT. AND HAPPY WE ARE DOING THIS.

>> THE BOTTOM DOLLAR IS GOOD. CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT HOW YOU NUT RENEWABLE ENERGY? IS THERE AN OPTION TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT BEYOND GAS OR OIL IN TERMS OF BUYING.

>> WE ARE BUYING RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDITS FOR 100% OF THE USAGE WHICH IS THE SYSTEM IN TEXAS TO BECOME RENEWABLE IF YOU WANT TO BE RENEWABLE AND CLAIM IT YOU USE CREDITS TO DO IT WE HAVE THAT INCLUDED IN THIS PROGRAM IF YOU WANTED TO OPT OUT OF YOU CAN THE COST IS CHEAP

APPROXIMATE WE CONTINUING IS WORTH IT. >> I MISSED THE PART THAT HAD THE 100% RENEWABLE CREDIT ENERGY ON THERE. THANK YOU.

>> I DON'T SEE OTHER HANDS. COUNCIL THIS IS THE CONSENT DOES ANYONE HAVE ISSUES WITH THIS?

>> I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE VERY COMPLETE PERSONALITIATION AND WE

ARE VERY HAPPY TO JOIN THIS. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> BYE-BYE. >> ALL RIGHT. BRIAN -- MAYOR CAN WE GO TO THREE B OR C. YOU WILL -- GO BACK, I'M SORRY. YOU ARE GOOD.

ED. ARE YOU READY. DO 3C.

[3C. Discuss the implementation of an Individual/Household Assistance Program through the City's Dallas County Coronavirus Relief Fund (CRF) allocation and take any necessary action. (30 minutes)]

DISCUSS THE INVITATION OF THE HOUSEHOLD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM FOR THE DALLAS COVID RELIEF FUND.

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ALLOCATION, TAKE NECESSARY ACTION. >> THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL MY GOAL IS TO SEEK DIRECTION FOR COUNCIL AND CARES ACT FUND IN THE HOUSEHOLD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM FOR ROWLETT RESIDENTSIL START BY PROVIDING BACK GROUND INFORMATION AND PERSONALITY AN IMPEPTATION PLAN AND PROGRAM TERSE FOR THAT PROGRAM AND LIKE TO CONCLOUD ANSWERING ASKED QUESTIONS FOR SIMILAR TYPE PROGRAMS BEFORE HAVING A FULL DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL.

WITH US IS KAREN COOPERSTEIN FROM CATHOLIC CHARITIES OF DALLAS LIMP IS A QUESTION I CANNOT ANSWER REGARDING THE NEED AND PROGRAM PARAMETERS. KAREN, ARE YOU HERE?

I AM HERE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

THE FIRST SLIDE? THANK YOU. BACKGROUND INFORMATION THE TOTAL ALLOCATION IS OVER THREE.2 MILLION. OF THAT, COUNCIL DETERMINED THIS WOULD ALLOCATE 17% TO AN INDIVIDUAL POTENTIAL INDIVIDUAL HOUSEHOLD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT TOTALS 550 THEN AND THERE. PROPOSED BUDGET IS OVER 500 THOUSAND DOLLARS 2 VIEDED INDIVIDUAL IN HOUSEHOLDS AND 50,000 OR 10% OF THE ASSISTANCE PROVIDE FOR THE COSTS OF CARRYING OUT THIS PROGRAM. ONE ITEM WE WERE DIRECTED TO PURSUE IS REGARDING THE NEED FOR THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM. WE HAD 202 PLEASANT APPLICANTS. 71 WERE PREELIGIBLE.

131 DENIED FOR REASONS WE HAVE NOT BEEN PROVIDED WITH BUT DALLAS COUNTY CRS STAFF.

WE REACHED OUT TO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND IN THE CITY WE HAD THROW OF THE LARGEST PROVIDE INFORMATION AND DETERMINED WELL IS AN INCREASED APARTMENT RENT DELINQUENT RATE. THERE ARE PEOPLE MOVING OUT THEY CANNOT FORD TO STAY IN THE

APARTMENT >> UNEMPLOYMENT CLAIMERS ABOVE WEEKLY LEVELS WITH THE CHARTS ON THE RIGHT WE ARE SEEING A SPIKE IN THE TREND FOR CLAIMS IN THE TWO ZIP CODES HERE.

IONEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THERE IS IN THE A LOT OF TIME LEFT FOR US TO IMPLEMENT THIS PROGRAM OF ALL EXPEND TOURS UNDER THE PROGRAM HAVE TO BE INCURRED BY NOVEMBER 30 AND A PROPOSED PROJECT BOY OCTOBER 31ST. AND THE TIME NEEDED TO IMPLEMENT THIS PROGRAM WE HAVE TWO MONTHS DO SO. SO -- THE COMPLETION DATE CANNOT BE PAST NOVEMBER 15TH OF 2020. NEXT STEP IN IMPLEMENT THANKSGIVING PROGRAM IF APPROVED WE CAN MOVE TO FINALIZING AND EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH A THIRD PARTY ADD ADMINISTRATOR.

ITEM 7H AND PROVIDE AN ADVANCE FOR THE INITIAL PROGRAM IMPLEMENT ANTICIPATION ITEM 7I

>> WE WILL ANNOUNCE AND OPEN THE PROGRAM APPLICATION PERIOD NEXT WEEK.

THE TURN AROUND SHOULD BE A DAY OR 2 ONCE WE PUSH OUT THE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC.

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WE ADVERTISE THE PROGRAM APPROXIMATE MONITOR PERFORMANCE AND RETURN ON COUNCIL FOR FINAL FUN FUNDING. WITH ANY REALLOCATION THAT IS IF WE DETERMINE THERE IS NOT ENOUGH NEED. THERE IS TIME FOR US TO REALLOCATE THAT TO ANOTHER PROGRAM OR TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT AVAILABLE FOR THE CITY FOR EXPENSES. RELATED THE COVID-19 PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY.

WE HAVE TO CLOSE THE APPLICATION PERIOD BOY NO LATER THAN OCTOBER 30TH AND THE LEFT DIFOR THE ISSUANCE OF ASSISTANCE PAYMENTS AND RECEIPT OF CONTRACT OR INVOICES NOVEMBER 15TH.

WE WILL THEN COMPLETE IT AND SUBMIT DOCUMENTATIONS BY NOVEMBER 30 TO MEET THE DEAD LINE SET BOY OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THERAPY A RECAP ARE REGARDING THE PROGRAM TERSE BOY PROGRAMS. DALLAS COUNTY PROVIDES 80% AREA MEDIUM NEXT CAPMIC BELOW THIS CAP YOU ARE ELIGIBLE. COLIN COUNTY PROVIDES A 200% CAP. I DIDN'T WANT TO PROVIDE MORE THAN TWO PROGRAMS HERE.

COLCOINCIDENTY DOES A 200% AMI BASED ON THE INCOME RATE. A MAX OF 1500 THE DALLAS PROGRAM MAX ASSISTANCE AMOUNT OF 4500 AND GOVERN LAND MIND WILL. IRVING A MAX AMOUNT OF 12,000 AND MONTH LOW 2,000. SOME PROVIDE LIKE A WEEK LOW FOOD STIFLEN.

GIFT CARDS TO 50 DOLLARS PER PERSON OR RESIDENT OR 200 PER WEEK.

BUT TYPICALLY YOU WILL FOINLD A REASON MORTGAGE TYPE OF ASSISTANCE FROM THE PROGRAMS. THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS REGARDING WHO CAN RECEIVE THIS ASSISTANCE. THEY CANNOT BE RECEIVING CERTAIN FORMS OF OTHER ASSISTANCE FROM FEDERAL PROGRAMS EXIST NOTHING CARES ACT FUNDED.

I TOUCH ON THAT LATER ON. >> SOME DO HAVE A MINIMUM RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT.

FOR DALLAS COUNTY HAVE YOU TO BE A RESIDENT OF DALLAS SINCE MARCH FIRST.

IRVING DOES 60 DAYS TO BE A RESIDENT FOR 60 DAYS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED PARAMETER THIS IS IS WHEN WE WILL DISCUSS LATER ON.

THE TYPES OF ASSISTANCE. TYPICALLY LOOKING AT PAST AND CURRENT COSTS NOT FUTURE COSTS.

RENT. MORTGAGES, UTILITY GAS. ELECT AND INTERNE.

A LOT OF HOUSEHOLD VS TO GET INTERNET IN ORDER TO WORK REMOTELY OR HAVE THEIR KIDS GO TO SCHOOL REMOTELY. REGARDING SYSTEM LIMITS THE AMOUNT IS AN AMONGLY MAX OF 2,000 AND A TOTAL MAX OF 12,000 FOR 6 MONTHS OF ASSISTANCE. LOOKINGAMENT WHERE WE GOT THAT NUMBER ONE THE BRURO DATA SHOWS A MEDIAN GROSS AMOUNT OF 1623. OWNER COSTS OF 1717 AND MORNL AMONG LOW OWNER COST WITHOUT MORTGAGE OF 760 A MONTH. AVERAGE PER HOUSEHOLD AMOUNT W BETWEEN 2800 AND 35 HUH HUMAN SEEN. USING A MAX AMOUNT OF 12,000OR AVERAGE OF 28 HUH HUMAN. LOOKING FRONT TO 179 APPLICANTS AWARDED WITH THE AMOUNT AM AVAILABLE. REGARDING ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.

THIS IT IS THE FIRST ONE WILL BE ONE THIS COULD YOU THINK CAN NUMBER TONIGHT THAT IS THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT. OUI WILL HAVE THE CITY OF ROWLETT FOR 36 TO 90 DAYS.

FINANCIAL LOW IMPACTED BY COVID AND INCOME BELOW THE PROPOSED AMOUNT.

FROM ANOTHER AGENCY. DOCUMENT ASKED PERSONAL IDENTIFICATION -- AND COPIES --

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SOME OF THE TYPICAL WE EXPECT AT THIS TIME BE PROCESSED WITH A SUBMISSION -- 7 DAYS TO PROVIDE CORRECT OR MISSING DOCUMENTATION. SOME OF REASONS WE FOUND FOR APPLICANTS TO BE DENIED INCLUDE FINANCIAL HARDSHIP PREDATING THE COVID-19 PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY. INAIN'T TO SHOW DOCUMENTATION SHOWING THE FINANCIAL IMFACT WAS DUE TO COVID-19. HOUSEHOLD INCOME TOO HIGH. SIMILAR TO THE DALLAS COUNTY.

A HOUSEHOLD INCOME TOO LOW. FOR EXAMPLE ONLY TARGETING THOSE 80 AND 120AMI F. WE WERE TO CHOOSE TO FOCUS THAT POPULATION FOR DALLAS COUNTY THEY WERE ELIGIBLE FOR THE DALLAS COUNTY PROGRAM. A LACK OF RESPONSE AND E MAIL FOR DOCUMENTATION AND DUPLICATION OF BENEFIT. THE NEXT THREE SLOIDS ARE ASKED QUESTIONS RESIDENTS MAY HAVE.

FIRST ONE IS WILL I GET THE MONEY DIRECTLY. NO THE MONEY BE PAID TO THE LAND LORD OR MORTGAGE LENDER OR UTILITY PROVIDERS THEY MUST BE WILLING TO ACCEPT PAYMENT.

SECOND QUESTION . HAS A PROVIDER, HOW WILL I GET PAID. CASEWORK ARE ASSIGNED AND THEY WILL BE PROVIDE WITH STEP ITS MAKE SURE THEY CAN RECEIVE PAYMENT.

>> WILL RESIDENCE DIDN'TS HAVE TO PAY THAT MONEY BACK? >> NO IT IS I GUARANTEE NOT A LOAN. ICAL FUNDS USE TO PAY UNPAID U TITITY OR PROPERTY TAX PORTION.

>> NO. >> THE CARE'S ACCOUNT PROJECTS US FROM USING THOSE FOR REVENUE REACCOMPLICE AM. NEXT QUESTION, DID I HAVE IT COUNT MY ENTIRE HOUSEHOLD

INCOME. >> YES. IF AN APPLICANT GETS PID IN CASH THE CASEWORKER WILL HAVE A FURTHERMORE THAT THEY NEED TO COMPLETE.

IN ORDER FOR THE APPLICANT TO KNOW THAT FUNDING HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE UPON LENDSER OR LAND LORD, THE ASSIGNED CASEWORKER WILL NOTIFY THE APPLICANT THE APPROVAL AND AMOUNT PROVIDE TO THE LAND LORD OR LENDER. CAN I DPET ASSISTANCE FOR FUTURE

BILLS. >> NO. UNLESS COUNCIL INCLUDES FUTURE COSTS IT IS INTENDED FOR PAST DUE OR CURRENTLY DUE BILLS. WHO IS NOT ELIGIBLE? ANY INDIVIDUALS USING HOUSING VOUCHERS AND RECEIVING CARE'S ACT FUNDING FROM NONPROFITS AND FAMILIES LIVE NOTHING UNITS OWNED BY IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS.

WITH THIS, I'M SEEK DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL OF 2 FALLEN ITEMS ONE IN THE NEED TO IMPLEMENT A HOUSEHOLD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND TO ON PROGRAM PROGRAM TERSE ESTABLISHING THEM WE CAN GO BACK TO THE FIRST TYPES OF ASSISTANCE SLIDE AND START THERE RORD'D REGARDING THE SECOND ITEM.

IS THERE CONSENSUS ON THE NEED FOR THIS PROGRAM AND TO IMPLEMENT THIS PROGRAM?

IS MY FIRST QUESTION. >> SO, CAN YOU JUST, YEA. KEEP UP THE PAGE YOU NEED TO

SEE. LET'S GO BACK TO THIS. >> SO -- THANK YOU FOR THE COMPLETE PRESENTATION. COUNCIL, WE HAD ALLOCATED AN AMOUNT OF FUNDS TO INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE. IS EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD.

>> YES. >> ONE THING I ASK, ED, WE ARE FURTHER LONG ON WHERE WE ARE AT IN THIS PANDEMIC THIS YEAR, WE HAD INITIAL ALLOCATIONS TO SMALL BUSINESSES, RESIDENTIAL, CITY

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EXPENSES. DO YOU HAVE CONCERNS WITH OUR CURRENT ALLOCATIONS? GI DO NOT. YESTERDAY FINANCE AND I SAT DOWN AND WORKED THROUGHOUT CARE'S ACT FUNDING FROM DALLAS SIDE AND SO FORTH AND WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE TIME LINE I PRESENTED TODAY WE ARE GOOD. WITH THIS PROGRAM. AM AND HAVE NO OTHER CONCERNED

TO SPEND THE FUNDS OR RETURNING FUNNING. >> AND NO CONCERNS ABOUT SOME

SET ASIDE? >> AT THIS TIME, NO. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> I THINK WE ANSWERED THAT FIRST QUESTION. YES? UPON NEXT QUESTION. IS THERE A CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL REGARDING THE PROGRAM TERSE AND WE CAN REVIEW THEM I PRESENTED FIRST IS THE TYPES OF ASSISTANCE PROVIDED? I WANTED TO LIMIT THIS OR PROPOSE TO LIMIT TO PAST, DUE AND CURRENT COSTS RENT. MORTGAGE AND UTILITY AND INCLUDES INTERNET. ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS?

>> I REALLY CAN WE PULL THIS SLIDE DOWN. DO YOU HAVE THIS SOMEWHERE ELSE

YOU CAN REFER TO? >> ARE WE ALL OKAY WITH THIS TYPE OF ASSISTANCE?

LOTS OF NODS. YES. >> NEXT.

YES. THE ASSISTANCE LIMITS PROPROVIDING A MACK OF 2 THOUSAND DOLLAR AND TOTAL MAX OF 12 THOUSAND DOLLAR. THE ANTICIPATED AVERAGE WILL

FALL BETWEEN 2800 AND 3500 PER AWARD. >> HOW MANY FAMILIES DO WE THINK

WE CAN HELP WITH THE MONEY WE SET ASIDE FOR THIS? >> 278 WITH A 2800 AVERAGE.

>> WITH A MAX OF 12,000 IF EVERYONE GOT 12,000, 41 FAMILIES.

YOU DON'TEN'T HAVE A BELIEF THA WILL HAPPEN? >> NO.

ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THE 2,000 AND 12,000 LIMIT? YES.

ELABILITY. THE SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF DAYS THE 30, 60, 90 OR MARCH FIRST IT IS UP TO COUNCIL. YOU WANT TO HELP ROWLETT RESIDENCE DENTS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE TRANSIENT. I WOULD SAY MARK THE START OF THE COVID IS LIKE MARCH 13TH.

DECLARATION WAS MADE? >> FRIDAY THE 13TH. MY PROPOSAL IS TO START FROM THERE. WOULD HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT AS OF THIS DATE.

>> I AGREE. >> YEA. >> I AGREE.

OTHER OCCURRENCE OR COUNTER PROPOSALS? NO.

THE ONLY ONE I HAVE I'M FINE IF YOU HAVE BEEN A RESIDENCE DENIAL FOR 30 DAYS BUT YOU ARE GETTING REIMBURSED FOR THE BILLS 30 DAYS YOU HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF ROWLETT.

CAN YOU DO THAT? WE WILL SET THE >> REPORTER: YOU CAN RECEIVE

ASSISTANCE FOR AS LONG AS YOU HAVE BEEN A RESIDENCE DENT. >> THAT IS A COUNTER PROPOSAL I

DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GO TO MARCH 13TH I WANT 90 DAYS. >> THE ASSISTANCE WILL BE PROVIDED FOR THE COST INCURRED WITH A ROWLETT ADDRESS. MAY BE SEE WHERE THAT COST WITH THE INTERNET 9 PERSONALITY. THAT WOULD BE LIMITED TO -- THE ROWLETT ADDRESS.

IF YOU ARE PAYING UTILITIES YOU ARE PAYING THEM AT YOUR ROWLETT ARE ADDRESS.

IF YOU MOVE IN THE 30 DAYS AGO AND LOST YOUR JOB THE DAY YOU MOVE IN THE I WOULD LIKE TO PITHAT MORTGAGE PAYMENT ELECTRIC BILL. GI AGREE, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH 30 OR 60 DAYS I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GO BECOME TO MARCH 14TH BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT, I MEAN OVER 13TH. WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MAY HAVE MOVE IN THE TO ROWLETT FOR A JOB AND MAY BE THEY LOST THEIR JOB. DURING THAT TIME PERIOD SO I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE AND OKAY WITH 30 MORE COMFORTABLE WITH 60.

BUT I THINK WE SHOULD SHORTEN THAT TIME REQUIREMENT AND TO YOUR POINT.

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THEY WILL RECEIVE ASSISTANCE FOR THE THYME THEY HAD A ROWLETT ADDRESS.

THE PURPOSE IS TO HELP REDENIAL ANDS IF THEY LIVED HERE FUR 30 OR 60 DAYS THEY ARE A ROWLETT RESIDENCE DENT. THAT'S MY COMMENT. I AGREE.

LIKE IT 60 OR MORE DAYS. CONTINUE? 60.

MARCH 13TH YOU WANT TO TALK. >> I'M FIND WITH 60 DAYS AS LANGUAGE AS ANY PEDESTRIAN DUE

AMOUNTS DON'T GO BEFORE THE DECLARATION OF COVID. >> SOMEONE 90 DAYS PAST DUE AND HAVE BEEN FOR SICK MONTHS WE DON'T WANT TO PAY THEIR FEBRUARY BI BILL. RESIDENCY OF 60 PLUS DAYS REIMBURSED FOR PAST DUE POST

MARCH 13TH. >> RIGHT. >> WHEN DO YOU THINK.

THIS? IS THAT WORKABLE. I FORGOT YOUR NAME.

KAREN. JOY KNOW ED'S NAME. I WAS ASKING KAREN

>> YES, MAYOR THAT IS WABLE. I AM GLAUD EVER GOING WITH 60 DAYS.

DALLAS COUNTY ONLY HAS NOT RELINQUISHED THE MARCH FIRST DEAD LISTEN WE HAD POEM THIS MOVE IN THE MARCH SECOND. IT IS HEART BRICK TO SEE THE NEED.

60 DIS THAT I WILL HAVE BEEN HERE. AND WE HAVE SEEN PEOPLE WHO MOVE IN THE THE CITY FOR A JOB ONLY TO MOVE IN THE CITY AND MOVE IN AND HAVE THE J.W. TAKEN AWAY SO IT IS I THINK IT IS FLEXIBLE BUT STILL GIVES CONFIDENCE THIS THEY ARE IN THE TRYING TO GAIN THE SYSTEM. SPEAK UP IF YOU THINK THE DECISION MIGHT BE BETTER SERVED IN ANOTHER MANNER, TOO, PLEASE. NEXT. ED.

WHATEVER YOUR NAME IS THEY THINK I DON'T REMEMBER YOUR NAME. SO.

60 DAYS. RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT. THE NEXT ONE IMPACTED BY COVID THAT SILL STANDARD REQUIREMENT. COLIN COUNTY SETS EXPERIENCE A 15% REDUCTION IN HOUSEHOLD INCOME. DO YOU TO THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC I DON'T KNOW HOW PRACTICAL DAM IT IS TO MAKE THAT DETERMINEINATION IT COUNCIL SAYS TO SAY A PERCENTAGE OF THRESHOLD WE CAN DO THAT. Y RECOMMEND AGAINST T. IT IS YOU START SLOISING AND DIAGNOSE THINGS TO FIGURE OUT IF THE IT IS 15 OR 16%. SO GENERAL LOW SPEAK FIGURE THEY ARE ABLE TO PROVE AND WE GENTLEMAN THROUGH EXHAUSTIVE MEASURES TO DOCUMENT THE CREW.

WE HAVE PEOPLE TRYING TO TELL US THEY WERE AFFECTED BUT FIRED. WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAPS WE RUN.

I THINK YOU KNOW MOST OF THE PEOPLE WE ARE SEEING ARE THINKING OF SOMEBODY WHO I WORK WITH AND DID A COUPLE CASEOS MY OWN TO UNDERSTAND THE SYSTEM. SHE WAS W NOTHING A HOSPITAL AND HER HOURS WERE CUT BECAUSE SHE WAS MOVEED I COVID UNIT. SHE LOST.

YOU COULD SEE IT IS IN THE BANK STATEMENTS THAT SHE HAD LOST 50% OF HER NINCOME.

WE ARE AWARE OF CATCHING PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO GET AROUND THE SYSTEM AND BEING FLEXIBLE TO HELP THOSE WHO ARE ADVERSE LOW AFFECTED. THEY PUT THE 15% IN TO ACOUNSEL FOR PEOPLE GETTING UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS? I'M TO THE CLEAR THEY HAD A NUMBER OF RESTRICTIONS EARLY ON. THEY REQUIRED -- IF YOU HAD A 20 THOUSAND DOLLARS IN ASSETS SOMEWHERE WHETHER IT STOCK OR BANK YOU WERE NOT ELIGIBLE. AND THEY HAVE BEEN PEALING.

PEALED BECOME A NUMBER OF THE REGULATIONS NOW BECAUSE I THINK I THINK THEY ARE COMPREHENDING

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THE SCOPE OF THE NEED. THE MORE BEAR YERS YOU PUT IN WHAT WILL HELP IS TYPICALLY WE MAY HAVE WILL 100 APPLICATIONS BUT 300 THAT ARE PENDING OR INCOMPLETE AND PEOPLE GET FRUSTRATE EXCLUDE DROP OFF AND WE DON'T WANT THIS TO HAVE HAPPEN.

JOY THINK IF WE ARE WORKING WITH AND YOU YOU ARE DOG THE CASE MANAGE.

I FEEL COMFORTABLE UPON WHAT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE IS WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO HIRE PEOPLE FOR THE LAST MONTH. THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE AT HOME THEY ARE MAKE MORE ON UNEMPLOYMENT THAN ON SOMETHING ELSE IF THEY ARE NOT PAYING BILLS BECAUSE OF COVID AND APLOYING FOR MONEY YOU NEED TO PEAL THAT ONION I DON'T WANT TO SLOW THE PROCESS.

IF SOMEBODY IS TRYING TO WORK THE SYSTEM I HOPE WE ARE CATCHING IT.

>> THEY HAVE TO DECLIR EVERY BIT OF NEXT THEY GET. IF THEY ARE GETTING PUBLIC BENEFITS OR FAMILY MEMBERS GIVING NEL LOANS, THEY SIGN A FORM.

I FEEL LIKE IT IS A THOROUGH VETTING PROCESS AND YOU KNOW BUT THE 15% THE MORE YOU 3 FORM WELLS IN THIS. IT SLOWS IT DOWN. WE ARE OKAY EXCLOUDING THAT, COUNCIL? NEXT. NEXT IS THE AREA OF MEDIAN INCOME CAP LIMIT. I WILL SHOW THE NUMBERS. IEL.

TALK TO US ABOUT WHEN YOU WERE SEEING FROM THE DALLAS OR APPLICANTS.

BECAUSE WE GOT A HIGH MEDIUM INCOME IN ROWLETT. >> THE DATA FOR 2018 IT IS 96, 286 AND 3.1. WE ARE LOOKING AT 120% AMI. HOUSEHOLD OF 4 HAVE YOU TO MAKE 115,000 OR LESS? 103, 450. I WAS TAKE THE 96, 286.

>> KAREN, COMMENTS. ALL OF THE CITIES WE WORK WITH ARE 120% AND BELOW.

IRVING WAS THAT THE OUT LOYAL ARE THAT DID WILL 80 AND 120 THINK THANKSGIVING DALLAS COUNTY WOULD CATCH EVERYBODY. FOR PERIODS OF TIME DALLAS COUNTY SYSTEM HAS BEEN CLOSED WE WILL THOUGHT WE HAD A 5% APPROVAL RATE. THIS MEAN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHAT WE WERE TELLING POEM IS YOU ARE TOO PORTO RECEIVE SUPPORT FROM US.

ALL OF THE CITIES WE ARE WORKING WITH NOW ARE 120 AND BELOW. HOW DO YOU THIS AFTERNOONING IS WORKING AT THE LEVEL. I'M LOOKING AT THE DAILY SHEET FROM YESTERDAY THEIR AVERAGE IS RUNNING THREAT00 NOW. AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS IN THE 1800 TO 22,000 TO 2300.

YOU KNOW IT IRRELEVANT IS GOING TO BE -- MORE OF A JUDGMENT CALL ON Y'ALL'S PART.

BASED ON THE AVERAGE SALARIES YOU ARE SEE NOTHING YOUR CITY AND -- WHERE YOU THINK THE NEED IS GREATEST. I MEAN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FIND INTERESTING BOTH IN THE ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS AND IN OUR FOOD DISTRIBUTION PROGRAMS I VOLUNTEER.

THEY ARE -- UNDER WATER ON -- INCOME VERSUS MORTGAGE. SO -- RECOMMENDATION AGAIN.

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120. THAT'S WHAT I RECOMMEND. >> OCCURRENCE AND OTHER COUNTER

PROPOSALS? >> GOING, GOING, GONE. THE LAST ITEM IS -- NOT RECEIVED CARE'S ACT HOUSING ASIFTANCE THE CONCERN IS THEY RECEIVED ASSISTANCE FROM DALLAS COUNTY FOR THE MONTH OF APRIL AND MAY. JUNE, JULY AND AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER.

J JUST -- >> SOUNDS GOOD TO US.

>> SO WE DID NOT WANT TO SET OTHER THAT A MANDATORY DUPLICATION OF BENEFITS WE DON'T WANT TO SET A LIMIT ON ASSISTANCE IF THEY RECEIVED IT FOR ANOTHER PERIOD COVERED

THROUGH ANOTHER PROGRAM OR AGENCY. >> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IN IN

REGARDS TO THE 12,000? >> THIS REQUIREMENT WOULD DO WE WANT TO COMPLETELY E ELIMINATE AN APPLICANT WHO RECEIVED ASSISTANCE WHEN AND FOR HOW MUCH.

>> ASSISTANCE FOR APRIL AND MAY AND OUR PRACTICAL ALLOW TO GET IT FROM JOHN AND JULY AND ET CETERA? IN IF WE ARE OKAY WITH THAT? THEN?

>> I SAY THEY CAN'T DUPLICATE BENEFITS. >> OKAY.

>> YES. >> I DON'T THINK YOUROUSED OUR MAX BECAUSE THEY GOT 1500.

I THINK ITMIC ITS DIFFICULT. >> I BELIEVE THAT IS IT. KAREN, IS THERE ANYTHING I'M MAY

BE MISSING? >> I THINK THAT IS IT. THE ONLY OTHER THING WE WORKED WITH A COUPLE CITYOS IS -- SO LET'S -- LIKE OTHER BENEFITS. ASSUME THAT THEY ARE QUALIFIED THAT WE PAY PAST DUE AND CURRENTLY DUE OPPOSED TO SAY WE DO AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER BUT THEY NEED OCTOBER BUT CAN'T APLOY FOR THIS UNTIL THE END OF SEPTEMBER ARE YOU OKAY WITH NOT REQUALIFYING AND GOING THROUGH SUBMIT A NEW APPLICATION DO YOU BELIEVE ONCE THEY QUALIFY THEY HAVE NEED THEY DON'T GO THROUGH PROCESS IN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER.

I ASK HOW DOES THIS WORK AS FAR AS FIRST IN AND FIRST OUT. I WOULD NOT MAKE YOU REQUESTIONS OF LAW FOIL THEM IF YOU WAY TO VERIFY THINGS HAVE NOT CHANGED.

>> BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WORKS IN REGARDS TO FIRST COME FIRST SERVE.

>> ALL OF OUR CASES ARE ASSIGNED WITHIN A DAY. SO -- THEY ARE EVALUATED OUT OF THE BOX. I THINK WE ARE -- WE CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE OUR POEM THAT PARTIAL LOW FILLED OUT THE APPLICATIONS AND ROLIZE TODAY IS HARDER THAN TO FILL IN YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND REQUEST A CHECK. I DON'T THINK THAT WILL CHANGE THAT AT ALL.

I THINK IT IS JUST AN ADDITIONAL -- ELIMINATION OF A BARRIER.

ADDRESS THAT -- DECIDING THE CASES IMMEDIATELY. SO -- COUNCIL HAVE CONCERNS? MAKE SURE -- FULL TIME AND -- DENY THAT CASE. COUNCIL THAT IS ALL I HAD.

IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS -- THANKS FOR THE HARD W AND KAREN DO YOU HAVE THE BAN WIDTH YOU ARE

MANAGING THIS FOR A LOT OF CITIES. >> ABSOLUTELY.

WE HAVE -- I IT WAS TELLING SOMEBODY THE OTHER DAY OUR DISASTER RELIEF PROGRAM HAD TWO

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CASE MANAGERS AND THINKING WE WERE BUSY MANAGING THE TORNADOS FROM OCTOBER AND COVID HIT SO -- WE STAFFED UP FROM TWO FTE TO 45. AND WE ENAND FLOW BASED ON WHERE

THE CITIES ARE AND CAN HAVE THE WE CAN HANDLE THIS FOR YOU >> NOT THE FIRST TIME CATHOLIC CHARITIES HANDLED CASE MANAGEMENT FOR US. NO WE DATE BACK TO 2015 WITH

YOU. >> WE DO. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO AND YOUR ORGANIZATION AND THANK YOU FOR HELPING WITH PROGRAM PROGRAM TERSE AND EDTHANK YOU FOR WING

SO HARD ON THIS. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

WE ARE STILL WORK BACK, I BELIEVE AND WE WILL GO TO ITEM THREE B HERE A FOLLOW UP (ATION

[3B. Hear a follow-up presentation and discuss design options for the proposed 24-inch water line on Dalrock Road. (45 minutes)]

TO DISCUSS DESIGN OPTIONS. AND YOU DON'T HAVE 45 MINUTES. >> I GALLON DPAFT IF I GO FAST

SLOW MOW >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME JOINING ME IS TOM HARRIS THE ENGINEER. WHO WILL ASSIST IN QUESTIONS. WE BROUGHT THE PRESENTATION FORWARD FOR DAM ROCK WATER LINE ALINEMENT AND RECEIVED FEEDBACK TO PROVIDE OPTIONS FOR TREE PROSECUTIONS WE ARE SEEKING DIRECTION ON A WATER BIEN, ALIGNMENT LIKE.

LEVEL OF RETENTION OF EXISTING TROLLS. WE WILL DISCUSS IN OPTION ONE B.

AND LEVEL OF LAND SCAPE IN THE MEDIAN WELL IS IN THE LAND SCAPING.

NEXT SLIDE POLICE. SO IS THIS OVER VIEW OF THE OPTIONS ONE B IS A NEW ONE IT IS A COMBINATION OF ONE A AND 2 B TEMPERATURE IS OPEN CUT. WITH CONSTRUCTION THERE TO PRESERVE. . A LITTLE REVIEW OF THE PROJECT SCOPE. 16, 400 FEET AND LIMITS FROM PRINCETON ROAD CONNECT TO AN EXISTING 24 INCH WATER LINE AND SOUTH TO SUNSET BOULEVARD. REVIEW REMOVE THE TREES -- NEXT SLIDE. PLEASE. OPTION ONE B WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON. OPEN CUT AND HORIZONTAL DRILLING.

A PLAN BY THE TREACHLESS CONSTRUCTION WITH 7 MODE WHY SEGMENTS WE IDENTIFIED FOR PROSECUTION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO THIS SLOID WILL BE REPETITIVE. LET ME GO THERE IS INFORMATION ON TEMPERATURE LET ME EXPLAIN IT THE RED LINE SHOWS THE AREA OF THE TREES -- GREEN LINE IS THE PROSECUTE POSED WATER LINE ALINE AM AND THE OPTION. AT THE CHART YOU HAVE THE LOCATION.

THE LENGTH, OPEN CUT COSTS PER LITER FOOT, HD D COST. TOTAL OPEN CUT COSTS AND HD D COSTS AND THE MOST IMPORTANT NUMBER THE TOTAL COST DIFFERENCE WITH OPEN CUT VERSUS THE HD.

>> SO FAR -- AS YOU SEE THIS IS THE FIRST CLUSTER AND FOR -- DISCUSSION POINTS THE LEFT IS THE NORTH. THE LEFT TO THE NORTH AND NORTH TO SOUTH THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION THIS IS BARTON CREEK NORTH OF HIGHWAY 66. AND AS YOU SEE IN THE CHART.

THE COST TO PRESERVE THAT CLUSTER OF TROLLS 425,000 APPROXIMATELY.

>> NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS HERE IS A STREET VIEW OF THE SEGMENT AND SHOES THE BEGINNING THE NORTH END OF EACH SEGMENT WE ARE DISCUSSING FOR PRESERVATION.

JOT NEXT IS A SHORTER SEGMENT AND THE TOTAL COST IN THERE IS 206 THOUSAND DOLLARS.

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AND COUNCIL, LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION I WILL HAVE A SUMMARY WITH ALL ON ONE PAGE.

>> I KNOW YOU ARE MEMORIZING THE NUMBERS BUT YOU DON'T VICE PRESIDENT TO.

>> NEXT SLIDE. A STREET VIEW OF THE PROJECT LIMIT WE ARE NOT DOING THIS AM AM WE ARE STARTING PRIOR TO THAT SO WE DON'T BLOCK THREE INTERSECTIONS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO, THE NEXT SEGMENT IS SUPER SMALL ONE WE WANTED SHOW YOU IT IS NICE GROUP OF TREES AND THE COST DIFFERENCE OF A 70 FOOT SEGMENT FOR DISCUSSION THIS IS 32 THOUSAND DOLLARS. THE STREET VIEW IN THE WINTER, FOLIAGE IS GONE.

IF Y'ALL IS QUESTIONS ON SPECIES MAP. CHRIS AND SAM AND I MET ON SITE AND DROVE THIS AREA AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS I'M SURE MATT CAN HELP US IDENTIFY THE TREE SPECIES THIS IS A LONGER SECTION, BROILAR WOOD TO THE NORTH OF SLEDDY ROAD.

2,000 FEET THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES. YOU SEE THAT COST WELL IS 641, 800. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ANOTHER STREET VIEW OF THE CORRIDOR FOR REFERENCE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ANOTHER 2,000 -- FOOT SECTION AND THIS SECTION IS SLOIT LOW MORE COMPLICATE TODAY IS THE ONLY YOUR THAT IS NOT STRAIGHT.

I WILL HAVE TO DO FIELD ADJUSTMENTS. HOWEVER IT IS A LARGE CLUSTER OF TREES AND A NICE AREA WHERE THERE IS BEAUTIFUL PECAN TREES ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET AND TO -- COST 643,000. APPROXIMATELY TO DO THIS CLUSTER.

NEXT SLIDE. PICTURE OF THE CORRIDOR. NEXT SLIDE.

TO MILLER. IT IS -- 2 INTERSECTION OF TWO MAJOR THOROUGH FARES THERE AND 765 FEET THE COST IS 250 THOUSAND DOLLARS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND THEN THE SEGMENT MILLER ROAD TO GARNER. 1400 FEET.

AND COST DIFFERENCE OF 464 THOUSAND DOLLARS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THE SECTION HERE IS SOUTH BAY CIRCLE.

AND YOU ARE GETTING THIS BELIEVE THE LAST ONE. THOUSAND FEET AT THREE 28,000.

FOR THAT SEGMENT. NEXT SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE.

SO, JUST FOR THE BULLET POINT NUMBER ONE IS REMINDER THAT THE COST WE ARE DISCUSSING IS FOR THE 24 INCH WATER LINE INSTALLATION IS IN THE ANY COMPONENTS OF THE PROJECT.

JUST FOR DISCUSSION OF THIS AND THE CHART STHOES THE O PC C OF THE COST THERE THE SUM ROW FOR EACH SEGMENT AND WILL WE PROVIDE THIRD DEGREE IN A FORMAT WHERE YOU PICK ALL OF THEM.

NONE OR SOME LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ON THE LEVEL OF PRESERVATION.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS I REVIEW OF OPTION 2 THE TRENCHLESS DISCUSSION.

4 SEGMENTS THROUGHOUT THAT CORRIDOR. TO PRESERVE THE MOST AMOUNT OF TREES. AND -- NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND OPTION THREE THE OPEN UPON CUT AND NORTHBOUND LANE OF DAM ROCK FOR THE LENGTH OF THE PROJECT.

NEXT SLIDE. SO -- THIS CHART HERE WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT COSTS AND UNFORTUNATELY, ON OPTION ONE ATHE THIRD AND FOURTH BULLET POINTS SHOULD HAVE BEEN OMITTED.

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1A AND B COSTS ARE THE SAME. ONE AIS THE BASE PRICE. OPEN CUT WHICH IS THE BASE PROCESS OF 8 PENALTY 5 MILLION DOLLARS. OPTION ONE B IS THE BASE PROCESS PLUS VARIATION OF TREE CLUTTERS WE WANT TO PRESERVE AND OPTION TWO OF THE 14 PENALTY 7 AND OPTION 3 THE OPEN CUT AND NORTHBOUND LISTENS 11.3 MILLION DOLLARS.

SO -- NEXT SLIDE. GO BECOME TO THIS TO RECAP WHEN WE ARE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION.

AGAIN ON THE WATER LINE ALIGNMENT LOCATION. THE LEVEL OF TREE CLUSTER RETENTION AND OTHER LEVEL OF LANDSCAPING IN THE MEDIAN. UPON LAURA CAN YOU BACK UP ONE?

THAT'S MY PRESENTATION AND WE ARE ALL HERE FOR QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH A LOT OF INFORMATION. I TIMED IT INTERESTING HAD OPTION THREE AND LESS EXPENSIVE THAN 1 B ALL IN. OPTION THREE IS CHEAPER BECAUSE THE OPEN CUT BUT THE MOST DISRUPT YOUIVE FOR TRAFFIC YOU ARE BLOCKING A LANE FOR SEGMENTS FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME.

TRENCHLESS CONSTRUCTION IS AWESOME. >> OF THIS QUESTION, ARE THERE VARIOUS TIME FRAMES FOR THIS ONE A IS THE QUICKEST YOU GO DOWN THE MIDDLE 1 B ADDS 5 MONTHS AND THREE ADDS 10 MONTHS IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THIS? I DEFER TO SAM OR CHRIS.

OPTION ONE IS THE FAST PEST YOU ARE DIGGING WITH DIRT AND MOVING TREES.

THREE THERE IS SAW CUT AND CONCRETE, AND I'M NOT SURE OF THE TIME UPON FRAME OF THE TRENCHLESS. AM MAY BE SAM OR CHRIS CAN HELP MOW OUT ON THAT ONE OR WE WILL GET BACK. IOI DON'T KNOW I CAN CAN COMBIF YOU AN EXAMPLE ON THE TRENCHLESS OR ONLY CUT WITH PAVE AM. I SAY HAWITHOUT PEN TO PAPER THE PAVE AM ONE WILL BE THE LONGEST CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE TO CONSTRUCT THE LINE AND PAVE THE ROAD AND WAIT FOR IT TO CURE AND MOVE IN SEGMENTS THIS WILL BE SLOWER. I DON'T KNOW I HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER THE TRENCHLESS IS VERSUS OPEN CUT. Y DON'T THINK TELL BE A SUBSUBSTANTIAL LOW DIFFERENT SCHEDULE TIME FRAME IF YOU MEAN WANTED KNOW EXACT ANSWER WE CAN WORKUP A SCHEDULE ANALYSIS COMPARING THOSE THAT I WILL WOULD NOT SHOW MUCH OF I

DIFFERENT NUMBER. >> I THINK ESTIMATING I 15 OR 16 MONTH DURATION BECAUSE IT HAD TO BE DONE. FEIGN OPEN CUT IT IS DONE IN SEGMENTS WITH TRAFFIC CONTROL AND JUMPING ALONG TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTION TO THE. PUBLIC.

WHY THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL ARE YOU OKAY PULLING THIS DOWN IT SEE THE WHOLE

COUNCIL? I THANK YOU IS IN THE PACKET? >> YES.

>> WHY DON'T WE PULL THAT DOWN. IOWE HAVE PEOPLE RAISING HANDS. I AM GOING TO GO ALPHABETICAL.

BLAKE. >> SO GARY DOES IN APPROACH OPTION ONING B DOES THIS INCLUDE THE HYBRID APPROACH BORING OR GOING OUT IN THE NORTHBOUND LANES AND BACK IN THE MEAD YEN TO AVOID TREES YOOCHLT IT IS BORING WE HAVE TO BOAR UNDER 66 AND BOAR UNDER MILLER.

WE EXTEND THE BOAR FROM THE NORTH AT BARTON CROAK EXTEND THIS UNDER 66 TO SAVE THOSE

TREES. >> I KNOW THE LAST MOTING WE HAD THE COUNCIL SEEMED TO LIKE IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN LIKE COUNCIL LIKE THE THE IDEA OF INSTEAD BORING FOR OPGD ONE B, GOING OUT IN THE RAIN AND COMING BECOME N. I MAY BE MISTAKEN. WHY NO WE DID DISCUSS THIS AND IN THE FIELDS AS WELL. THE SCENARIOOF GOING OUT AND LANDING COMING BACK

>> NOT A BEST PRACTICE OF ADDING THE JOINT IN THES WATER SYSTEM. AND THE OTHER OPTION THIS WE DISCUSSED WAS -- CONSTRUCTION OPEN CUT AND A PORTION OF THE MEDIAN.

YOU SAVE TREES ON THE OTHER HALVING OF THE MEDIAN AND IT IS DIFFICULT ON DO THIS WITHOUT A

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SUBSERVICE UTILITY STUDY. WON'T DON'T KNOW WHAT IT UNDER AM GROUND TO ESTIMATE THAT WATER AND GAS LINES. THIS IS COMPLEX THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO AFTER THE DESIGN IS AWARDED AT SOME POINT. IT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO THE ESTIMATE THAT NOW.

>> THANK YOU. MARTHA. AM YOU ARE ON MUTE, MARTHA.

WE MAY HAVE DISCUSS THIRD DEGREE BEFORE, GARY. IF SO I DON'T REMEMBER.

I THEN AND THERE THERE HAS BEEN AM IN THE WORKS FOR I LONG TIME PLANS TO EXTEND THE LISTENS.

TO THREE LANES ON EACH SIDE ON NORTH AND SOUTH. IS THAT STILL IN THE PLANS? AND -- IF SEW. WOULD IN ELIMINATE THE TROLLS THAT WE ARE PRESERVING?

>> SO -- WE DID SPEAK ABOUT THIS IN THE LAST PRESENTATION. AND FROM WHAT I HEAR FROM THE TEXT DOT NOTE SYSTEM ADDING THE MAIN LISTENS TO I30 AND THE SERVICE ROADS BELIEVE THIS THERE WILL BE REF LEVEL ON DAM ROCK AND MILL ARE. WHICH WOULD PROLONG THE NODE NEAR ADDITIONAL LANES. I WAS ESTIMATING 5 TO 10 IN OTHER CONSERVATIVES ESTIMATES 10 PLUS. WE DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER. OUR ANALYSIS DOES IN THE SHOW THE TRAFFIC IS THERE NOW. WITH THE ADDITION ON 30 THE REGION IS WAITING TO SEE HOW

THAT WILL AFFECT THROUGH PUT. >> SO MY --

>> CORRECT. >> YES, MA'AM. >> YEA.

>> WE AD THE LANE THE MEDIAN WILL BE SO NARROW THERE WILL NOT BE MUCH VEGETATION.

I SOONEUNDERSTOOD THAT TO BE THE I REMEMBERED 10 YEARS BUT WANTED CONFIRM.

MY NEXT QUESTION I KNOW YOU HAVE DONE AN ANALYSIS OF THE PEEK TRAFFIC TIMES WE HAVE.

I BELIEVE THIS YOU HAVE A PERCENTAGE OF HOW MANY CARS WE HAVE THAT -- ARE -- FROM OUTSIDE OF ROWLETT OPPOSED IN THE CITY. CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT PERCENTAGE IS AGAIN? SO. I DON'T RECALL THAT I HAVE TO BECOME IN THE NUMBER.

THE PEEK TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD IS INTEND GOING NORTH AND SOUTH AND IT IS STRANGE.

IT NORTH AND SOUTH AT 5 P.M. I THOUGHT ONE. OF THEY ARE BOTH IN THE AFTERNOON. WE HAVE TO BACK IN THAT NUMBER LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC COUNSELS COMING IN TO ROWLETT FROM THE EAST AND DO INCLUSIONS WE CAN DO ANALYSIS.

>> I IT SEEMS LIKE I REMEMBER IT WAS HIGH LIKE 30 AND 40%. WAS TRAFFIC FROM OUTSIDE OF ROWLETT. AND MY REASON FOR ASKING THAT IS YOU KNOW IF WE DO THE CUTS.

IN THE LANE THEJZ AND CLOSE DOWN THE SECTIONS OF LANES WOULD PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE OF ROWLETT FIND ALTERNATE WAYS TO GET TO THEIR DESTINATION AND -- IT WOULD LOWER THE TRAFFIC COUNTS FOR OUR RESIDENCE DENIALS AND SO YOU KNOW I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT YOU THINK WOULD WE BE BETTER OFF TO SAY DO THAT CUT IN THE LANE IF WE DO THE CUT IN THE LANE.

IT IS A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS DIFFERENCE. AND -- I DON'T KNOW I WONDER IF THE INCONVENIENCE IS OR THE CONVENIENCE IS WORTH THAT MUCH. 2 PHENOTYPE THREE MILLION HIGHER THAN GOING DOWN THE CENTER. WE HAVE TO TAKE OUT THE TREES AND MY LAST COMMENT ON THAT IS THAT THIS IS A MAJOR THOROUGH FARE THROUGH OUR CITY AND I'M 100% FOR WERE PRESERVING THOSE TREES AND I'M LEAN NOTHING THE DIRECTION OF DOING THOSE CUTS WITHIN THAT LANE THE NORTHBOUND COMPLAIN SHUTTING IT DOWN IN SECTIONS AND -- SO I WILL LISTEN AND MAY BE YOU WILL BE CONVINCED

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OTHERWISE. >> YOU SAID A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS DIFFERENCE IS NOT.

>> WELL IT IS A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CENTER CUT GOING DOWN THE MEDIAN OPPOSED GOING IN TO THE LANE ITSELF THE NORTHBOUND LANE AND SHUTTING IT DOWN.

I AND 600,000 OPPOSED TO THE TRENCHING I'M WILLING TO SPEND A COUPLE MILLION TO PRESERVE THE

TREES BUT IN THE GOING SO FAR AS THE TRENCHING. >> OKAY.

IOMATT? THERE IS A THIRD OPTION WE LOOKED AT AND AS YOU LOOK HOW THE TREES ARE ALINED EXCEPT FOR THE FIRST KEKZ SECTION WHERE THE BIG LIVE OAKS ARE.

ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 66. THERE IS IN THE A LOT OF LOOM. THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE BORED TOURND SAVE THOSE TREE SAYS OR GO IN THE STREET. THE TREES ARE ALINE IN THE A WAY THEY STAGGER AND THERE ARE TURN LANES WHERE IF YOU MOVE THIS OVER THE PIPE OVER SO IT WILL NOT RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE MEDIAN AND OFF SET TO THE LEFT OR RIGHT WHCHLT WE DROVE IT TO ME IT LOCKED LIKE THE LEFT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY. HUG THE CURB AND LOOSEN TREE ANDS FAR ENOUGH OUTSIDE THE JERK LINE IF YOU DID PROSECUTE SECRETARYIVE PRESERVATION DURING CONSTRUCTION, SAVE THE TROES ON THE FAR SIDE OF THE MEDIAN AND YOU WOULD THEN BE GOING THROUGH WILL TURN LISTENS WELL IS AN ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION COST. AND YOU WOULD GO IN ANOTHER MEAD YEN TO GET FAR ENOUGH OVER AND THEY LOOK LIKE WE WOULD PRESERVE QUITE A FEW.

NOT ALL OF THEM BUT THIS WAS AN IRRELEVANT VANLT OPTION ONE C WE LOCKED AT AND DID IN THE SEE HERE. IT WILL BE MORE AND NOT PRESERVE AS MANY BUT IF WE TOOK ALL OF THE OPTION ITS IS IN THE MIDDLE. RIGHT? SAM AND CHRIS AND I DISCUSSD THAT. SAM, RECAP THE DISCUSSION OF DIFFICULTES OF THIS.

YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION. >> I MEAN GAR AND HE MATT AT THIS TIME, WE ARE WORKING FROM ARIAL WILL DAST AT VISIT GIVES SOME GROUND TRUTH TO THAT. BUT THIS IS WITHOUT REALLY -- GETTING GROUND AND TREE SURVEY. SO -- NOT WORKING FROM A LOT OF DATA.

I THINK THAT IS -- AN PROP THAT CAN BE -- EVALUATED PART OF THE PHASE AS WE GATHER THIS FIRST CEST FIELD DATA. STOP, STOP, STOP. NO MATTER WHAT OPTION YOU CHOOSE

FROM YOU ARE DEALING WITH LOW LEVEL DATA. >> THE ONLY UPON OUT LOYALER HOAR WE ADDED THE TREES. WHETHER YOU GO IN THE STREET OR YOU GO DOWN THE MIDDLE OR TO THE LEFT OR RIGHT. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IS THERE AT IS THIS POINT.

UNDERSTANDING. BUT DON'T ROWEL THAT OPTION OUT AND USE THAT AS AN EXCUSE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT SUBSURFACE DATA THAT IS THE CASE NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO.

IF YOU HAD THAT YOU WOULD HAVE IT FOR ALL THE TRENCHING. DON'T USE THAT AS AN EXCUSE IF THERE IS ANOTHER REASON YOU CAN'T TOP THAT I WILL LYNCH BUT THAT'S NOT A VIABLE EXPLANATION.

AM THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES THE TROES TRENCHING -- ZER OVER. >> I AGREE WITH THIS.

BUT I KNOW TELL BE HARD TO SOME 2-1/2 MILLION BUT A MILLION FOR A LITTLE EXTRA WORK AND I WORK WITH TREES MORE THAN YOU AND I'M TELLING YOU IF YOU DO PRESERVATION CORRECT LOW AND PUT THIS MONEY WHERE THIS LINE WAS WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THE OPTION IS BETTER FOR THE TREES TO

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SURVERIFY THAT TRENCH GUESS DOWN THE MIDDLE. I WAS TRYING TO GET ACROSSES TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY AND LOOK. LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS NO CHANCE LOOK AT WHAT OTHER OPTIONS WERE WE DO THIS THIS WAY OR WE ARE NOT THAT IS WHERE MY FRUSTRATION COME FROM.

TONIGHT WE DISCUSS THIRD DEGREE THERE IS NOT PRECISION FOR THE OPTIONS THE BASE DATA HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOP IN THE TERMS OF SELECTING AN OPTION WHERE YOU WILL DO THE HARD DESIGN WORK.

APARTMENT OF TONIGHT IS TO GET THIS FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL SO THAT WE CAN CHARGE NICOLES TO DEVELOP THAT AND PUT THAT PRECISION IN THERE. PERHAPS, WHEN ARE WE WILLING TO DO ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CHEAPEST OPTION, WHICH IS TO DO THE OPEN CUT.

YOU KNOW -- ARE WE WILLING TO DO THIS IN BRACKETS, WILLING TO SPEND A MILLION DOLLARS ON TREE PRESERVATION AND MAY BE SOME LANDS SCAPING OR ARE YOU LEGAL TO SPEND 2 MILLION.

THEN I THINK THEN WE CAN COME UP WITH REALLY THE BEST ACCOMPLICE TO DO THAT WEATHER THIS IS BORING IN SOME PLACES OR GOING OUT IN THE ROADWAY IN OTHER ACCOMPLICES.

>> UM -- I GOTTA TELL YOU I WILL NOT SUPPORT SPENDING 2.9 MILLION DOLLARS ADDITIONAL DOLLARS TORGO AROUND ALL OF THOSE AREAS. YOU ARE RIGHT THAT IS A HARD SALE.

I PERSONAL LOW DON'T THINK UPON WE CAN EWE LIKEWISE OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS WITH ADDITIONAL THREE MILLION DOLLARS COST. I LIKE YOUR IDEA, MATT BUT TRY TO DO SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN MAY BE NOT ALL OF THE SEGMENTS YOU IDENTIFIED. BUT ENOUGH OF THE SEGMENTS FRED SPREAD OUT WHERE YOU STILL ARE ABLE TO MAINTAIN SOME SEMBLANCE OF THE QUALITY MEAD MEDIANS WE HAVE TODAY AND DON'T IMPAIR THE COST SO MUCH. YOU IDENTIFIED ALL THE SEGMENT THIS IS WERE VALUABLE AND IMPORTANT TREES. MAY BE WE PICK 4 OR 5 OPPOSED 8.

8 OF THOSE -- AND WE HAVE A HYBRID METHOD AND DO WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, MATT.

YOU GO DOWN THE LEFT SIDE AND YOU PICK THE 4 SEGMENT THIS IS HAVE THE TREEOS THE RIGHT SIDE IT IS VIABLE OPTION THAT THE TREES SURVIVE. CAN YOU BUY A LOT OF REACCOMPLICEMENT AM TREES FOR 3 MILLION DOLLARS. I KNOW THAT I WILL ARE IN THE AS BIG AND THE NOT BIG OAKS. THEM IS TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND WE GOTTA -- ANSWER TO THAT.

>> I'M CONCERNS WITH REMOVEINGLY THE EXISTING TREES BUT -- YOU KNOW 23 MILLION IS HARD TO EXPLAIN THIS TO CONSCIENTIST WEBS WE SPENDS THIS FOR TROLL THIS IS WILL BE REMOVED IN THE FUTURE. YEA IT IS HARD TO JUSTIFY THAT EXPENSE.

. BUFF YOU KNOW IT -- SUCKS EITHER WAY.

I HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY IS SAYING AND I THAN THESE AND I UNDERSTAND HAVE YOU TO START WITH NUMBERS I DO. SO I UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T HAVE THE BASE STUFF THIS IS THERE AND YOU GET IN AND START TRENCHING DOWN THE MIDDLE AND REMOVE THE TREES AND FIND OUT THERE IS STUFF HAVE YOU TO DOLE WITH AND YOU HAVE TO BORE UNDER AND 8.5 TURNS TO 9.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS TRENCHES THIS YOU ARE TALK BUG HAVE TO DO BECAUSE YOU ARE REQUIRE IN TWO. TRIFRND ROADS AND YOU HAVE TO CLOSE DOWN THREE LANES OF TRAFFIC AND YOU DMENDZ TRENCH A BIT. I THINK THE TRENCHING ON THE TREE SYSTEM OVER EXAGGERATED THERE ARE SAVINGS WHEN YOU FIGURE IT OUT.

SO WHAT I LIKE WHAT BRIAN'S TAKE WAS ON IT. I THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN

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MEDIANS ON WELL THAT ARE BETTER THEN AND THERE OTHERS. I WAS OPEN WITH YOU GUYS SAYING THESE TREES CAN GO. IS WHAT IS THE NUMBER THAT WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH GOING OVER AND WE WORK CLOSE LOW TO BE ABLE TO ONE WAY OR ANOTHER HOWEVER WE BEST DECIDE THAT IS THE WILTO DO IT AFTER YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO MORE WORK TO PRESERVE THE BEST AND REPLEASANT IF THAT IS THE WAY WE GO, I REALLY, REALLY HOPE WE HAVE MORE CREATIVE DISCUSSIONS AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND YOU DON'T PUT THINGS OUT OF HAPPENSTANCE AND SAY WE CAN'T DO IT BUZZ OF THIS.

I HATE IT. THAT'S WHY MANY TREES GET CUT DUN ALL OVER IT IS EASIER TO DO IT THIS WAY. I UNDERSTAND THAT THREE MILLION DOLLARS TO SAVE EVERY TREE.

WE SHOULD NOT ALL DO THIS. THERE ARE REALLY NICE POCKETS OUT THERE THAT A MILLION TO MILLION AND A HALF CIVIL HALF OF THAT IS SOMETHING I WOULD FIGHT FOR.

ETCH THANKS MATT. >> PAM? >> YES, I HAVE IT GRE WITH YOU, MAYOR I'M NOT WILLING TO SPEND THE TAXPAYER'S MONOTHE TROLLS. WE CAN SAVE SOME BUT WE POSSIBLE LOW CAN SAVE SOME OF THEM BUT I CAN'T SEE T.Y CAN'T UPON -- CAN'T GO FOR SPENDS THANKSGIVING MONEY ON THE TREES. CAN'T. THAT'S A LOT TO ASK TAXPAYERS TO BEAR. BECAUSE OF UPON ALL THE OTHER THINGS HAPPENING, NO.

WE HAVE SO MUCH INFRASTRUCTURE NODE IN THIS COMMUNITY. IOWE DO.

IOMARTHA SIGNAL >> I'M SORRY PAM WERE YOU DONE. JUST A MOMENT I'M DONE.

IOTHANK YOU. WHY THANK YOU. IOYEA.

GROWN THIS IS POSSIBLE OR NOT BUT THINKED WE USE TREE MITIGATION FUNDING TO HELP PRESERVE SHOULD OF THE TREES. THAT MIGHT FREE UP FUNDING AND -- IN MATT I'M WITH YOU.

FUL AND THE MAYOR IN THE MIDDLE. I THINK THIS WE WOULD BE A GREAT CONSIDERATION TO PRESERVE THE JUST THE CLUTTERS OF TREES THAT ARE THE MOST VALUABLE. SOME OF THE CREPE MYRTLES WE CAN LIVE WITHOUT THOSE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PLAN I GUESS SEE -- AND I DON'T KNOW -- COULD WE USE TREE MITIGATION FUNDING TO HELP ASSIST WITH THIS.

>> POPPED OUT WHEN YOU SAID THAT. I WILL GET TO YOU IN I SECOND.

WITHIN THING. THEY ARE NOT TRYING TO SELL YOU CREPE UPON MYRTLE THIS IS A FUNCTION WHERE IT HAD TO START FROM. IOGOTCHA.

>> DU OR BRIAN? WHOEVER. I WAS TWOING SAY THAT WE OUR

TREE MITIGATION MACHINE SESMALL. IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO HELP BUT -- >> CONCUR WITH YOU, BRIAN.

WE DON'T HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FUNDING BUT IF WE SEE VALUE WHERE THERE IT BE FOR THE IMPACT TO INCREASE THE CANOPY COVERAGE, YES, WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL THE IMPECULIARS ARE IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO FEEL SEE WHAT TYPE OF AFFECT WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE?

WE COULD CONSIDER THAT AS A FUTURE OPTION. >> THAT'S GREAT I DID NOT KNOW HOW MUCH WE HAD. DALGS ALLOCATED 9 MILLION OUT OF THEIR FUND TO PLANT TREES AT NORTH DALLAS. MATT AND I TOOK THE TRIP DOWN 66 THE DAY AFTER WE TALKD AND LOOKED AT THE TROLLS. I'M WITH MATT. IT IS LIKE SOME HAVE TO GO AND SOME DON'T THERE HAS TO BE A GIVE AND TAKE. YOU KNOW SOME YOU CAN LTD. THEM GO IF YOU KEEP THE OTHER GROUP. THIS IS A LESSON, DON'T PUT HIGH DOLLAR TREES DOWN THE MEDIAN TELL GET THEM TORN DOWN. KEEP YOUR HIGH DOLLAR STUFF OFF THE SIDE.

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PUT BRATFORD PEARS IN THE MIDDLE. >> YOU KNOW -- WE ASKED TO YOU GO OUT AND FIGURE OUT WHEN WE CAN DO AND CAME BACK WITH 3 MILLION DOLLARS AND THAT IS UNREASONABLE. SO I -- I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE GOT WHAT WE NEEDED TO GET TO COME TO

AN ANSWER. >> MAYOR THAT IS WHY I HAVE THAT FRUSTRATION.

AND THE FRUST RRATION THE SPONSI GOT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS UNDER THE GROUND.

TO PUT A COST. HOW DO YOU PUT A COST TO ANYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT OTHER

ALTERNATIVES AND THEY WERE NOT PRESENTED. >> MY FRUSTRATION IS WE CAN'T GO TO 8 OR 9 MEET WRITTENS AND SAVE THEM ALL. WHAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT IN THE 2 OR 4 MOST IMPORTANT IS IT VOLLEYBALL IT GO DOWN THE LEFT SIDE.

I DON'T FEEL WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION. >> I'M SORRY.

>> WE DID TALK ABOUT GOING DOWN THE LEFT SIDE AND PRESENTED OPTIONS TO GUARANTEE THE TREE'S SURVERIFY. OTHER DISCUSSION POINTS GIVE DESTRUCTION TO GET THE PROJECTS START WE HAVE A HARD DEADLINE. AM WE NEED DESIGNS AND SUBSURFACE EXPERTISE GOING AND INFORMATION AND COME BECOME TO COUNCIL AGAIN AND THESE ARE PLANNING NUMBERS AGAIN AND DISCUSS THE PLANNING NUMBERS. GO OUT FOR BID WE AWARD THAT. WE ARE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION TO START THE DESIGN. AND AGAIN -- THE SEGMENTS YOU DON'T VICE PRESIDENT TO DOT SEGMENTS WE SEGMENTED SO YOU CAN PICK THE MAJOR THUNDERSHOWERO FARES WHERE THE MOST TREES, THERE IS A KAERGZ OF PICKING ONE, TWO OR ALL OR NONE. GUYS.

YOU KNOW UPON WHEN THE ENGINE OOERG DESIGN WORKED ON THERE IS I WILL GIVE MY PERCENTAGES WRONG. THERE IS A 30% STAGE. A 60% STAGE AND 90% STAGE BEFORE WE FINALIZE. IF WE HAD GENERAL DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL WHAT YOU ARE WILLING TO DO I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO AS WE GET IN THE FIELD AND FIGURING OUT THE ISSUES ARE UNDER GROUND THEN THERE MAY BE SEGMENTS WE SAY. THAT THE COST TO BELIEVE ABLE TO PRESERVE THIS SECTION IS NOT WORTH IT. BUT OTHERS WE CAN.

AND SO I'MA00 SHORT OF THREE MILLION DOLLARS IS THERE A COMFORT LEVEL SO THAT AT LEAST IT MAY BE THE COMFORT -- WE WANT TO PRESERVE AS MANY AS WE CAN UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT.

IF THIS IS THE IN THE CASE WHAT CAN WE PRESERVE? WE NEED TO LET THEM GET START IN THE THE DESIGN. I HEAR YOU, BRIAN. I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU A NUMBER. I DON'T WANT TO SPEND A MILLION DOLLARS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS WHEN WE CAN PUT MORE TROLLS IN. WHEN I WANT IS YOU KNOW 2 OR 3 OF THOSE SEGMENTS SO THIS WE MAINTAIN SOME SEMBLANCE OF THAT CORRIDOR. AND PICK 2 TO THREE SEGMENTS THAT IS MOST LIKELY TO SAVE THE TREES WITH MATTS ALTERNATIVE APPROACH.

SEE THAT THAT COSTS. THAT WILL IS MY PROPOSAL. I HEAR WHEN YOU ARE SAYING GIRL AND I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT WE WANTED TO WE DONE THINK THE TREES WOULD LIVE.

I'M TELLING YOU IF YOU DO IT RIGHT AS WE TALKED ABOUT OUT THERE YOU DO GROUP PRUNING RATHER THAN UP WITH I BACK HOE YOU CAN PRESERVING A LOT OF THOSE TROLLS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

I KNOW CAN YOU DID IT I HAVE DONE TEMPERATURE IT WAS IN THE LOOKED AT AND THAT'S WHERE NILE FRUSTRATION COME FROM. IF WE STOPPED PICKING NUMBERS. WE COME UP TO A HIGH NUMBER REALLY QUICK. I'M ALL FOR YOU GOING TO GET STARTED NOT LIKE YOU ARE PUTTING A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND TOMORROW YOU HAVE GOT A LONG WAYS TO GO. MY RECOMMEND AGSZ YOU MOVE

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FORWARD WITH THAT AND WE KNOW EIGHTY-ONE THING I KNOW COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO GET OKAY IF THE LIVE OAKINGS ON THE NORTH PART OF 66. WELL IS NO OPTION THERE. THAT IS A 444,000 UPON BORE.

THAT IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO GRE ON IF WE SAVE THOSE TREES. THERE IS NO WAY AROUND IT THERE.

ONCE YOU GET TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF 66. MOVE FORWARD.

FIEPDZ OUT WHAT IS THERE. START THE WORK. AND FIGURE OUT THE BEST WILTO DO IT THAT WILL SAVE THE MOBILE HOME AMOUNT OF TREES. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING.

YOU ARE ASKING US TO MAKE A THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS DECISION WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER. I'M GIVING YOU OPTIONS FOR SEGMENTS I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND WE WILL DISCUSS UPON

>> WHAT'S THE HARD DEAD LINE. THE CONSTRUCTION OF UPON SAPPHIRE BAY AND BAY SIDE WATER.

THEY GET TO A 1.5 BILLION GALLONS PER DAY THE LINE NEEDS TO BE IN.

>> OKAY. >> THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM.

ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH AN APPROACH OF LOOSHG AT A COUPLE OF 2 TO THREE SEGMENTS AND SEEING IF AM. THEY ARE CONDUCIVE AND ENGINEERING IT AND SEEING WHAT

THE COST IS? >> YES. MATT, YES, NO?

YEP. I WON'T ASK YOU. >> I GUESS WE WILL TAKE DIRECTION FROM Y'ALL WE ARE HERE TO SERVE IF WHATEVER DIRECTION YOU POINT US IN THAT'S WHERE WE WILL GO. YOU,000 I'M ASKING YOU IF IT IS VIABLE.

GI THINK I GUESS WHEN I SAY -- I'M HESITANT TO ANSWER AND SAY YES WE CAN GO DOWN ONE LANE OF TREES AND SAVE THE OTHER. WE DON'T HAVE MEASUREMENTS OUT THERE.

BUT I THINK THAT IS WORTHY OF STUDYING A DESIGN PHASE EXACT LOW LIKE BRIAN AND YOU ARE SUGGEST. JOY KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT TROLL FIST THAT'S HOW YOU WILL PUT IT WE'LL NOT SAVE THE OTHERS WE COULD NOT GO TO THE INSIDE LANE OF THE TRAFFIC.

YOU VALID TO GOT IT OUTSIDE LANE OF THE TRAFFIC TO BEABLY TO MAKE SURE 100% YOU WILL SAVE THOSE TREES DON'T MAKE TREE ARGUMENTS TO ME. I'M THE TREE GUY YOU CAN MAKE ENGINEERING CLAIMS BUT DON'T MAKE DECISIONS WHAT YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN TO THE TREES.

YOU SAY I DOLL THIS. AND I SAY DO THIS, THIS AND THIS ,.

I UNDERSTANDS WEVILLE LOSSES THE WAY TO SAVE THEM IS TO GO PURNED THEM.

TOTAL LOW UNDERSTAND THAT. I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO WHAT I NODE TO KNOW IS HOW MUCH WE CAN SAVE FOR A MILLION DOLLARS THAT WAY OR MORE FOR ARE THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY DOING AN ALTERNATIVE. UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T ANSWER THAT.

MOVE DOWN THE ROAD AND GET MORANCES SO WE TH HAVE THE ANSWERS TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

THAT'S ALL I ASK. >> WRAP IT UP >> THANK YOU.

MAYOR. AS I HEAR FROM COUNCIL I THINK THERE IS A DESIRE TO SAVE AS MANY TREES AS WE CAN AND I THINK WE ARE COST CONSCIOUS ABOUT IT AS WELL.

MY QUESTION FOR SAM AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THIS ANSWER IF WE TAKE THAT PROP.

CAN WE COME BECOME TO COUNCIL AT WHATEVER THAT THRESHOLD IS, ENGINEER, STAGE THE 30% STAGE.

DAUL WHAT IT IS. CAN WE FWRING HAD BACK FOR WITH MAY BE A GIFT DEEPER DISCUSSION WITH WHEN WE THINK THE POSSIBILITIES MAY BE? CAN YOU WORK FROM THIS DIRECTION AND TRY TO GET US TO ANOTHER CONVERSATION? YES , SIR.

YES. OKAY. THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

YOU DID IT BETTER. >> OKAY. IOI'M SORRY I CAN'T GIVE YOU A LONG UPPER ANSWER. IOTYPESET IS THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET TO.

BUT. I AM NOT TRYING TO SAVE AS MANY TREES I'M TRYING TO SAVE ENOUGH

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TO KEEP THE ROADS HAVING CANOPY BUT NOT SPENDING TAXPAYER DOLLARS INAPPROPRIATE LOW.

>> I'M A BIT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT. SO.

I'M LEFT TO CENTER. MATT IS RIGHT OF CENTER OR OPPOSITE.

MORE BRADFORD PEARS. >> I THINK WE HAVE WHEN WE NEED FOR TONIGHT.

IOCOUNCIL. THANK YOU. UPON COUNCIL, WE WILL MOVE THREE

[4. DISCUSS CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

A TO INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. ITEM 7 BECOMES ON CONSENT WILL BE INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

AND ANYTHING ELSE ON THE CONCENT YOU WANT TO MOVE TO INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION OR YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON? WE'LL TAKE A SHORT BREAK I WILL SAY THREE TO 4 MACHINES AND START OUR REGULAR MEETING AND

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