Nov 05, 2020 City Council Work Session

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>>> ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE IT'S

[1. CALL TO ORDER ]

WE CAN HEAR YOU. >> ALL RIGHT.

[LAUGHTER] >> I THINK THAT WAS GARY.

>> YEAH, THAT WAS GARY. AS AUTHORIZED BY SECTION 551 THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE THEY MEETING MAY BE CONVENED IN A EXECUTIVE SESSION. THE CITY OF ROWLETT RESERVES THE REALINE PRY TO ADJOURNING.

CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS WILL BE HELD VIA TELECONFERENCING THE PUBLIC CAN BE LIVE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE OR VIA 16. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LISTEN TO THE MEETING LIVE CALL AND ENTER:

>> WE HAVE ONE EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM WE WILL DO THAT AFTER THE REGULAR MEETING. WE'RE GOING START WITH OUR WORK SESSION SESSION. TO PROVIDE COMMENT FOR ANY WORK SESSION OR AGENDA PLEASE SEND AN E-MAIL TO CITIZENINPUT. ARE WE DOING THIS IN ORDER

RIGHT NOW BRIAN. >> YES, MA'AM.

[3A. Discuss and approve selection of right turn lanes to be designed and constructed at various City locations. (30 minutes) ]

>>> WE WILL START WITH 3A WHICH IS DISCUSS AND PROFESSIONAL SELECTION OF RIGHT TURN LANES TO BE DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED AT VARIOUS CITY LOCATIONS.

>> GARY NOW YOU CAN TALK. >> MY APOLOGIES.

THERE WAS A PROBLEM WE WERE WORKING ON IT.

HE SAYS IT'S GOOD ON HIS END. >> I'M JUST GIVING YOU A

HARD TIME. >> WE LIKE THAT.

>> HEY, TOM. >> HOW ARE YOU?

>> VERY WELL. >> BEFORE WE START LOOKING -- THEY ARE LOOKING AT LOCATIONS AND MADE DECISIONS ON LOCATIONS THAT THEY COULD RECOMMEND FOR RIGHT TURN LANES BASED ON CITIZEN DELAYS, CITIZEN COMPLAINTS, AND OBSERVE THE TRAFFIC. SO WE HAD KIMBERLY HORN LOOK AT THESE LOCATIONS WHICH I WILL SHOW YOU HERE IN A MOMENT. DO AN ASSESSMENT OF THEM AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDED LOCATIONS THAT WE GAVE KIM TO LOOK AT AND THEY LOOKED AT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM AND TOOK OUR TRAFFIC COUNTS THAT WE DO ANNUALLY AND USED THOSE LET'S SAY AS SOME FOLKS GO OUT AND LOOK AT CARS AND COUNT THE NUMBER OF CARS THAT TURN RIGHT THAT ARE BEING HELD UP BY CARS THAT GO STRAIGHT THROUGH. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE FIRST ONE WE ARE LOOKING AT IS EASTBOUND MILLER ROAD GEORGE BUSH SOUTH FRONTAGE ROAD.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY Y'ALL TRAVEL DOWN THAT ROADWAY BUT IT DOES BACK UP ESPECIALLY IN THE EVENING TIME.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS A PHOTO SHOWING THE LOCATION AND THE RECOMMENDED LENGTH WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY DRAWN UP ON THE MAP ON GOOGLE EARTH.

THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT IS THE ONE THAT WE TOOK RECENTLY SHOWING HOW THE TRAFFIC BACKS UP THERE.

WILL BE HELD UP IN THAT LANE AND GIVE THEM A DELAY WHERE THEY COULDN'T MAKE I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF Y'ALL ARE DOWN THERE IN THAT LANE BUT I HAVE BEEN ON THERE BEFORE BECAUSE I USED TO WORK OVER IN NORTH DALLAS AND I WOULD TRY TO TURN ON GEORGE BUSH YOU WOULD HAVE TO WAIT ON ONE OR TWO LIGHTS. NEXT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES DURING PEAK HOURS. THIS IS THE RIGHT TURN THE VEHICLES THAT THEY COUNTED WHEN THEY WENT OUT THERE TURNING RIGHT AT THESE DIFFERENT INTERSECTIONS SO IN THE MORNING AT 99 CARS TRYING TO TURN RIGHT FOR AN HOUR. THEY HAD 93 TRYING TO TURN RIGHT ON SATURDAYS THEY HAVE 91 RECOMMENDED LANE LENGTH IS 150 FEET INSTRUCTION ESTIMATED COST AND THIS DOES

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NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS LOCATION IS THE SAME INTERSECTION ONLY THIS TIME IT'S THE SOUTHBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD WILL BE TURNING TO THE WEST OF MILLER ROAD.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THAT SHOWS THE LANE THE SAME AS ANOTHER SLIDE. THIS IS A PHOTO TAKEN BUT IT WAS TAKEN AT AN OFF TIME. SO, IT DOESN'T REALLY SHOW THE AMOUNT OF CARS THAT WOULD BACK UP THERE.

NEXT SLIDE. THE VEHICLES TRYING TO TURN RIGHT IN THE MORNING ARE 162 IN THE EVENING 140 SATURDAY 97. THEY ARE RECOMMENDING ONE THAT'S ARE GONE THERE GOING STRAIGHT THROUGH ARE HERE TRYING TO GET TO OR TRYING TO GET ON THE GEORGE BUS BUSHEL STILL. THE COST AT THIS LOCATION IS

$2NY,000. >> TOM CAN I REQUEST YOU A

QUESTION ABOUT THIS ONE. >> SURE.

IF THERE'S STILL NOT ALLOWED WELL, -- PROBABLY NEGATE NEGATE WHAT I'M ABOUT TO ASK YOU WILL THEY STILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO TURN RIGHT ON SNRED WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THAT, THAT WOULD BE TEXT DOT PUT THAT UP THERE.

WHEN YOU ARE SITTING THERE YOU CAN SEE THE COLUMNS ON THE BRIDGE AND SOME PEOPLE WILL NOT NOTICE CARS COMING DOWN THAT WAY GOING STRAIGHT AND THAT'S WHY THAT IS THERE. BUT WE COULD ANALYZE THIS FURTHER SEE THAT THERE WAS A WAY THAT THE CARS ARE HEADING EASTBOUND AND NOT TURNING -- THAT WOULD GO AHEAD AND LET THEM GO BEFORE THE LIGHT CHANGED GREEN.

>> I JUST THINK WE NEED TO BE REALLY CAREFUL WITH THIS ONE. IF WE PUT THAT 300 FEET THERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO EVEN INCREASE THE NUMBER OF CARS THAT TURN RIGHT ON RED EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT ALLOWED CERTAINLY BUT, BUT IT'S A PROBLEMATIC INTERSECTION TO SIT THERE FOR AS LONG AS YOU HAVE TO SIT THERE WHEN YOU ARE A DILIGENT DRIVER AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT THERE ARE NO CARS COMING. ONE THING WE AS THE ROAD TURNS TO THE RIGHT WE CAN EXTEND ANOTHER LANE OUT UNTIL YOU GOT DOWN MAYBE 100 FEET OR SO THEN YOU CAN MERGE IN THERE. THAT WOULD BE THAT'S

SOMETHING WE LOOKED AT. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US FIND A WAY WE CAN GET RID OF THAT NO TURN ON RED IF POSSIBLE. WE'LL LET GARY GO OUT THERE

HE CAN WAVE THE FLAG. >> THAT IS THE INTERSECTION.

>> YOU MIGHT BE OKAY THEN. >> YES, MA'AM.

THAT WOULD ADD COST BUT IT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT.

>> IF WE GO RID OF THE NO TURN ON RED IT WOULD BE

DEFINITELY IMPORTANT. >> NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

>> I WILL DO IT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GEORGE BUSH, YOU HEAD WESTBOUND. LOCATION TURNING RIGHT YOU CAN SEE AND I KNOW THEY GOT CONES UP THERE YOU CAN SEE THE LAYOUT SHOWING WHERE IT WOULD TURN AND.

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NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THESE ARE THE -- WESTBOUND APPROACH 334 VEHICLES PER HOUR OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE HEADING UP TO MAIN STREET PAST MAIN STREET.

P.M. TRAFFIC IS 121 MORE THAN LIKELY WOULD BE THE SAME REASON. BASED ON THEIR FIRST

ANALYSIS OF IT. >> NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS IS THE NORTHBOUND SIDE THAT WOULD BE TURNING TO THE EAST ON MILLER ROAD. THAT ONE HAS A NO RIGHT TURN ON RED. WE COULD DO THE SAME THING THERE TO ASSIST WITH CARS MEANING NEEDING TO TURN RIGHT. YOU CAN SEE THE CARS BACKED UP THIS IS A MORE EMPTY MORNING COMING COMING INTO ROWLETT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

IN THE MONK THERE WAS 16 VEHICLES PER HOUR TURNING RIGHT. IN THE EVENING WE HAD 121 ON SATURDAYS THEY GOT 25 -- THE COST OF THE ENGLISH NEITHER -- THAT'S A LOT LESS TRAFFIC.

SO MANY PEOPLE ARE HEADING NORTH.

PEOPLE COMING THROUGH THAT WAY TYPICALLY THEY PICK OTHER WAYS TO GET TO 30. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

WE WILL GO TO MAIN STREET THIS WAS RECOMMENDED BEFORE THAT IS TURNING RIGHT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THAT IS A RIGHT TURN ONLY LANE.

YOU CAN'T GET IN THERE TO TURN RIGHT.

TRAFFIC IS BACKED UP. IT BACKS IN THE MORNING FOR CARS TRYING TO GET THROUGH TO THE SCHOOL.

YOU KNOW HOW MUCH TRAFFIC BACKS UP IN THE MORNING.

THAT WOULD BENEFIT PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GET ON THE GEORGE BUSH ON THE ENTRY RAMP JUST SOUTH THERE.

>> I DON'T UNDERSTAND, I DON'T UNDERSTAND IF WE THOUGHT THIS NEEDED TO BE DONE WHY WASN'T IT DONE WITH THE MAIN STREET IMPROVEMENTS?

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND THE REASON IT WASN'T DONE THAT'S BECAUSE OF DOWNTOWN EAST TRYING TO CO-ORDINATE WITH THAT. THEY WILL WORK IT OUT WITH THE RIGHT AWAY THAT WE HAD AT THE TIME.

OR PUT IN WITH THE RIGHT TURN ONLY LANE.

SO WHEN THEY GET TO DOWNTOWN EAST IF WE CAN WORK WITH THAT DEVELOPER WE GET SOME ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY FROM THEM WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT.

IT'S NOT A BAD LOCATION WHEN SCHOOL, WHEN PEOPLE AREN'T TRYING TO GET TO THE SCHOOL. NEXT WITHIN, NEXT ONE PLEASE. IN THE MORNING VEHICLES TRYING TO TURN RIGHT IN THE COURSE OF BACKING UP THERE WITH THE SCHOOL. IN THE EVENING AT 86, SATURDAY IS 37. THE LANE LENGTH IS 150 THAT'S THE RECOMMENDED LANE. I HAVE A COST NONE OF THESE COSTS ALSO INCLUDE ANY RIGHT OF WAY PURCHASE THEY HAVE TO

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THIS IS SAME LOCATION BUT THIS IS TURNING RIGHT ON THE

MAIN STREET GOING SOUTH. >> NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

YOU CAN SEE THE EXHIBIT SHOWING WHERE THE RAIN WOULD BE YOU CAN SEE THE TRAFFIC BACK UP THERE MOST OF THAT IS PROBABLY TRYING TO GET ONTO THE GEORGE BUSH WHICH IS AS YOU KNOW ENTRANCE RAMP WAS PASSED UP.

THEY CAN'T MAKE A RIGHT TURN UNTIL TRAFFIC STARTS MOVING.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. IN THE MORNING 17 WEEKS ARE TRYING TO TURN RIGHT YOU SEE 72 ON SATURDAY.

SO ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO TURN RIGHT WILL BE SITTING IN THAT TRAFFIC. THE RECOMMENDED 100 FOOT LANE LENGTH. ALL THIS WOULD BE ANALYZED MORE CLOSELY IF WE DECIDE TO PUT THIS IN.

WITH THE ESTIMATED COST FOR THAT IS $205,000.

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>> AND THE EXIT VOTED, I THINK THAT CHANGED.

ANY WAY, THAT'S THE LOCATION THERE GOING NORTH AND TURNING RIGHT ON 66. NEXT SLIDE.

THAT WILL BE THE LOCATION ON THE LEFT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THAT THAT'S TRAFFIC BACKED UP TO THE RIGHT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO HERE WHEN THEY'RE MAKING LEFT TURN MOVEMENTS IS SAME THING WE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY IS THEY CAN HAVE A RIGHT ON RIGHT TURN ON THE GREEN ARROW AND BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT RIGHT TURN.

IT WOULD ALSO BE OUT OF THE WAY SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO STACK BACK WHAT IS NOW THE LEFT LANE TO TURN LEFT.

NEXT SLIDE. >> TRYING TURN AND 130 ON SATURDAY. RECOMMENDED LANE LENGTH IS 100 FEET. $189,000.

>> HEY, TOM. SAID YOU HAD LOOKED AT FOR LIKE AN HOUR IN THE MORNING AND AN HOUR IN THE EVENING I'M ASSUMING RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC, I WOULD ASSUME,

CORRECT? >> WELL, I DIDN'T LOOK AT IT THE CONSULTANT THEY HAD PEOPLE OUT THERE LOOKING AT

IT. >> RIGHT BUT I WOULD ASSUME

IT WOULD BE RUSH HOUR. >> YES.

>> WAS IT ALSO AN HOUR ON SATURDAYS?

>> YEAH, THEY SAT OUT THERE THEY WERE USUALLY OUT THERE MORE THAN ONE HOUR WHEN THEY ACTUALLY RECORDED THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES TRYING TO TURN.

BUT THIS IS STATS PER HOUR? >> YES.

>> OKAY. >> NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THIS IS LANE VIEW PARKWAY SCENIC DRIVE.

YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. NOT A LOT OF VEHICLES THERE'S A SIGN ON THAT -- WE ARE TURNING RIGHT -- SO TRAFFIC COUNTS COULD NOT BE THAT HIGH.

MAKE A STRAIGHT THROUGH LANE AND THEN A DEDICATED LEFT.

THAT WAY TRAFFIC CAN MOVE. A LOT OF CARS TURN TO THE LEFT TURN NEXT SLIDE. RIGHT HERE THE A.M. TRAFFIC THERE'S 14 TO TRY TO TURN RIGHT AND 37 IN THE EVENING

AND 33 ON SATURDAY. >> BUT I WOULD IMAGINE YOU PROBABLY HAVE A BUNCH OF THEM CUTTING THROUGH THAT SUBDIVISION STILL. WE RECOMMEND 178,000

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THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDED FOR THE CONSULTANT TO LOOK AT WE TOOK A LOOK AT WHERE WE HAD ADDITIONAL COMPLAINTS IN TRAFFIC SITUATIONS WHICH I'M SURE A LOT OF YOU DRIVE THESE ROADS AND YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT. SO, THESE ARE ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS THAT I PUT ON HERE JUST TO CONSIDER.

I DON'T HAVE A COST FOR THEM BECAUSE WE DIDN'T REALLY LOOK AT AT IT. IF YOU TAKE THE BUDGET WE GOT RIGHT NOW WE SHOULD HAVE MORE IN THERE TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL LANES. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

FIRST ONE IS LILAC ROAD WESTBOUND.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. YOU CAN SEE THAT TRAFFIC STACKED UP THERE ON THE LEFT WE WOULD SUGGEST A RIGHT TURN LANE THERE'S A PHOTO SHOWING CARS ANYBODY SITTING THERE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE A RIGHT TURN UNTIL TRAFFIC STARTED MOVING. SO THEY CAN CUT THROUGH THE KENWOOD ESTATES. BUT I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE A LANE HERE.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS LAKE VIEW PARKWAY AS YOU'RE AWARE THERE THERE IS NO RIGHT TURN LANE IT'S JUST A LITTLE RIGHT TURN BUT IT'S STRAIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION. EVERYBODY WOULD TURN THERE AFTER A COUPLE CARS OR SO -- NEXT SLIDE.

THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO PUT A LANE THAT THEY CAN GET INTO -- GO AROUND. YOU CAN SEE THE TRAFFIC BACKUP THERE AT THE INTERSECTION.

IF WE GET FUNDING I THINK THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS -- THAT LANE WOULD BE MORE NECESSARY -- EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT. NEXT LOCATION UP AT THE GROVE YOU CAN SEE FLIGHT WHERE THAT IS.

THEY CAN'T MAKE THAT TURN. NEXT SLIDE.

I JUST CLIP THESE OFF BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY GO OUT THERE. I JUST CLIP THESE OFF SO JUST TRAFFIC WHATEVER TIME THEY DO DRIVER WENT BY I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE INTERSECTION THAT'S THE RECOMMENDED RIGHT TURN LANE RIGHT THERE.

THAT WOULD ASSIST CARS COMING OFF GEORGE BUSH AND COMING DOWN LIBERTY GROVE THAT WANT TO GET ON PRESTON THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE A RIGHT TURN.

>> -- RECOMMENDATIONS HE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE --

>> I KNOW YOU DON'T TO THIS THIS IS JUST A POINT THAT YOU MIGHT ASK THE PEOPLE WHO DID THE SURVEYS AND TRAFFIC BUT ON THE SCENIC SOUTHBOUND SCENIC THE RIGHT TURN RIGHT THERE. NOT TOO MANY CARS I WAS WONDERING IF THEY COUNTED THE CARS THAT CUT THROUGH THE PARKING LOT BECAUSE THERE WERE THREE OR FOUR

CARS TRYING TO TURN. >> NO, THEY DID NOT.

>> IT SOUNDS LIKE A DUMB QUESTION BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. THREE OR FOUR CARS WAITING THEY START CUTTING THROUGH THE PARKING LOT.

>> THAT'S WHAT HE WAS SAYING THERE IS ALSO CUTTING

THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS. >> THEY CUT, THEY JUST LEAVE AND GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD INSTEAD OF

GOING OUT TO SCENIC. >> YEAH.

>> AND I ASKED HIM THAT QUESTION BRIAN THEY SAID NO.

THEY ONLY DID THE INTERSECTION.

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>> OKAY. >> IT IS A PROBLEM INTERSECTION THOUGH THAT'S FOR SURE.

>> YES. >> BLAKE YOU HAVE YOUR HAND

RAISED. >> YES.

SO REGARDING THE MAIN STREET IN LAKE VIEW AT SCENIC I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT IS AS HIGH OF A PRIORITY THAN 66 AND ROWLETT ROAD, AND OR EVEN 66 AT KENWOOD THOSE SEEM TO BE A HIGHER PRIORITY INTERSECTION THAT'S HAVE -- -- AND SCENIC LOCATIONS. THOSE OTHER INTERSECTIONS THAT HAD A -- AT THE TIME WE DIDN'T HAVE A BUDGET -- THOSE WERE THE LANES THAT WERE GETTING MOST COMPLAINTS FROM THE CITIZENS SEEM TO HAVE THE BIGGEST DELAYS IN LAKE VIEW PARKWAY AND ALSO WE WOULD LOOK THAT WHERE YOU

TURN IN. >> ON 66.

>> RIGHT. JUST SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THE CONSULTANT LOOK AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS WE JUST HAD THEM LOOK AT INTERSECTIONS THAT HAVE COMPLAINTS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.

CORRECT. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT -- THIS STARTED YEARS BACK. DID THE COUNCIL -- TO YOUR POINT WE REALIZE THAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY SHOWED AT SCENIC THERE HAS BEEN CARS WE CAN -- WE CAN ESTIMATE IT ON OURSELVES AT THIS POINT ALL THE DATA WE HAVE.

SO YOU KNOW WE ARE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION ON THE PRIORITY, OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS SO EVERYTHING IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

I MEAN, -- ROUTE ROAD 66 A BIGGER ISSUE THAN SCENIC -- I THINK THAT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS DISTINCTION.

>> LET ME WEIGH IN HERE GUYS JUST SO WE DON'T GET TOO FAR AWAY FROM THIS TOPIC. FIRST AND FOREMOST WHEN THIS ISSUE FIRST CAME UP I JUST WANT TO MAKE THIS AS A COMMENT WE KNEW THEY WERE OPPORTUNITIES TO DO RIGHT TURN LANES IN ROW THELET. YES, THERE WERE COMPLAINTS FROM OUR CITIZENS. AT THE POINT WE WENT TO THE 2018 BOND ELECTION WE SET ASIDE YOU KNOW A BUCKET OF MONEY 3 POINT WHATEVER MILLION WE WEREN'T SURE IF WE WOULD HAVE ENOUGH BOND MONEY TO DO THE ORIGINAL LIST. SO IT APPEARS LIKE NOW TO BE ENOUGH TO DO THE PROJECTS. I DON'T ALLOW MUCH RIGHT AWAY. HERE'S THE POINT I WANT TO MAKE. WE NOW HAVE DATA THAT TELLS US IT'S NO LONGER ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE SAY ABOUT IT IT'S THE DATA ITSELF. SO WE KNOW OUR BUSIER IS SECTIONS AND THE DATA BACKS IT UP.

SO THE POINT IS THERE IS ENOUGH MONEY TO DO ALL THE PROJECTS ON THIS LIST, AND QUITE FRANKLY, JUST LOOKING AT THE LENGTHS OF IT MAYBE EVEN SOME OF THOSE ADDITIONAL INTERSECTIONS IF WE WANTED TO.

SO I THINK THAT THE ORIGINAL THAT WE WOULD HAVE NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO DO ALL OF THEM.

SO WE WANTED TO PRIORITIZE OUR LIST.

AT LEAST THE ONE THAT'S WE FELT LIKE WERE THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES -- SO THEN THE QUESTION WHAT DO WE REALLY DO AT THIS POINT WHEN WE GO FORWARD WHERE THOSE.

>> SO, LAST QUESTION SO YOU ARE SAYING THAT DATA SHOWS

DIXON IS A HIGHER PRIORITY? >> NO BACK AT THE STAFF REPORT THERE'S A RANKING IT'S THE LAST ONE IT'S LIKE RANKED EIGHTH AND SCENIC IS RANKED SEVENTH OUT OF THE

EIGHTH. >> THEY DIDN'T RANK THE ONES YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BLAKE THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ASKING FOR US GUIDANCE. WHITNEY HAD YOU YOUR HAND UP

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NEXT. >> YEAH, COULD THE RIGHT TURN LANE AT 66 LANE COULD THAT JUST BE ROLLED INTO THE BOND? THAT'S ROAD CONSIDERED FOR A BOND SEEMS LIKE YOU WOULD ACHIEVE SOME CONSTRUCTION COST SAVINGS BY INCLUDING THAT IN THAT THAT PROJECT.

>> YES, IT COULD. THAT WAS JUST SHOWING THAT AS A LOCATION THAT WOULD HELP WITH THE TRAFFIC

MOVEMENT. >> OKAY.

AND THE SECOND QUESTION IS, WHILE WE'RE ON THE TOPIC OF RIGHT TURN LANES I DON'T HAVE THE PLAN IN FRONT OF ME. BUT THE RECONSTRUCTION PLAN FOR THE INTERSECTION DOES THAT INCLUDE A RIGHT TURN

DEDICATED RIGHT TURN LANE -- >> NO, IT DOES NOT.

WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY TO DO THAT WHITNEY.

WE WERE ALREADY GOING TO BE HURTING FOR RIGHT A WAY

THERE. >> IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. THAT'S GOING TO BE A VERY HEAVY TRAVELED ROAD AND INTERSECTION.

IF WE DON'T FACE IT NOW WE WILL WITHIN 10 YEARS.

>> FOR THE BENEFIT OF THAT INTERSECTION THERE'S NOT MUCH TRAFFIC GOING STRAIGHT. YOU ARE EITHER 99% WILL TURN LEFT OR RIGHT. SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH A DEDICATED TURN LANE LOOKING AT THE CONDITION OF IT.

IT'S SOMETHING WE DIDN'T ADD IN THE PRESENTATION IS DALE ROCK AND 66 INTERSECTION. ALL WE KNOW THAT'S A TRAVELED INTERSECTION. WITH REWORKING WITH TEX-DOT TO IMPROVE THAT -- THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE STUDY. PEOPLE WATCHING MAY WONDER

WHY THAT'S NOT INCLUDED. >> I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU TO GO OVER THAT GARY. IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE IGNORING IT IT'S FUNDED IN A DIFFERENT MECHANISM.

>> CORRECT. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> THAT'S ALL DIRECTIONS DOW ROCK AND 66.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> WHEN DO WE THINK THAT

MIGHT HAPPEN? >> 2022 IS WHAT THEY'RE

PROJECTING. >> SO WE'RE GETTING IT OUT OF THE WAY NOW DISCUSSING PLANS TO WHEN YOU WIDEN THE ROAD OUT THERE'S LITTLE RIGHT OF WAY ISSUES BUT IT

IS COMING. >> THANK YOU.

>> SO BRIAN AND WHITNEY YOU STILL HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED.

DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE. >> THAT WAS IT MAYOR, THANK YOU. I'M PRESIDENT TRYING TO CALL YOU OUT OR ANYTHING, -- I'M NOT TRYING TO CALL YOU OUT OR ANYTHING BRIAN. WHAT ELSE COUNCIL.

LET ME ASK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOUTHBOUND ROWLETT ROAD ONTO WESTBOUND 66. ARE THERE ANY STRUCTURAL ISSUES THERE. THE UTILITY POLES AND SIGNAL

WOULD HAVE TO BE RELOCATED. >> BOTH ARE VERY EXPENSIVE.

AND THAT CURRENT RIGHT HAND LANE IS NOT A DEDICATED RIGHT TURN LANE ONLY BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC FLOWS THROUGH THERE. TO LEFT TURN LANES WESTBOUND

66 THAT WAS MID-TH -- >> I, I DISAGREE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID IN REGARDS TO SCENIC IS NOT A BIG ISSUE. REGARDLESS OF THE TRAFFIC COUNTS BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S SO MUCH TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS AND PARKING LOTS IT'S A BIG PROBLEM. I THINK THE ONES YOU MENTIONED TOO BLAKE ARE AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENTS.

SO YOU ARE SAYING YOU HAD A PRIORITY LIST IN THE PACKET.

>> PAGE 7, MAYOR. >> THANK YOU.

WHAT DO WANTED TO DO COUNCIL DO YOU WANT TO GO DOWN THE

LIST AND PRIORITIZE. >> SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

SO FIRST ONE THAT THEY PRIORITIZE IS SOUTHBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD THE ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD MILLER SOUTHBOUND OH THAT'S YOUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

TALKING SOUTHBOUND ON THE SERVICE ROAD IS THAT CORRECT?

>> IT'S SOUTHBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD AT MILLER TURNING SOUTHBOUND GOING DOWN TOWARD 30 GOING EAST ON MILLER.

>> -- >> I JUST SAID IT DIFFERENT THAN DID YOU. THEY'RE TURNING WEST.

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>> THAT'S NOT HOW IT'S WRITTEN IN THE PACKET?

>> SOUTHBOUND SHOULD BE WESTBOUND IS THAT WHAT

YOU'RE SAYING? >> YEAH, THIS IS FROM A CONSULTANT AND I MODIFIED THE SLIDES TO BE CORRECT.

>> IT'S JUST A TYPO IN THE PACKET.

IT SAYS S.B. INSTEAD OF W.B. EASTBOUND ON MILLER.

-- MY FIRST ONE IS HEADING SOUTH ON THE SERVICE ROAD TURNING WEST ON MILLER. REGARDLESS OF HOW IT'S WORDED IN THE PACKET. I AGREE.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT.

NUMBER TWO IS A PRIORITY. >> GOING EASTBOUND THROUGH THE GEORGE BUSH ON EAST. I AGREE WITH ALL FOUR OF

THOSE. >> I DON'T.

THOSE TRAFFIC COUNTS GOING SOUTHBOUND IT'S MILLER GOING EAST TURNING RIGHT JUST SOUTHBOUND.

>> OKAY, I AGREE WITH THAT. THANK YOU.

[LAUGHTER] ALL RIGHT.

NUMBER THREE. GOING EAST THAT HAD VERY LOW TRAFFIC COUNTS. I THINK WE MIGHT USE THAT -- I THINK WE MIGHT USE THAT MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE.

>> OKAY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT DO Y'ALL

THINK? >> WE CAN MOVE IT DOWN THE

LIST, MAYOR. >> I AGREE WITH THAT.

BECAUSE IT'S EITHER GOING TO TAKE MORE MONEY IT'S NOT EFFECTIVE UNLESS YOU DO THAT LANE TO MERGE TRAFFIC IN OTHERWISE YOU ARE JUST SITTING THERE RED ON RED AND YOU HAVE A VERY SHORT GREEN ARROW.

SO THE WESTBOUND MILLER HEADING NORTH ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD. -- TO ME THE FOURTH CORNER IS THE LOWEST PRIORITY RIGHT THERE THOUGH.

HEADED EAST ON MILLER. NOW WE WILL HAVE AN INCONGRU

NOT A INTERSECTION. >> I DON'T THINK MATT AGREES

WITH YOU. >> I WANT ROWLETT AND 66 -- SOUTHBOUND. TO ME, THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WHEN THAT WHOLE DEVELOPMENT GETS DONE.

>> I AGREE. I THINK THAT SHOULD BE ON

THE DEVELOPER. >> WHAT DEVELOPMENT?

>> OH, GLOBAL. UH-HUH.

>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SOUTHBOUND OR EASTBOUND.

>> EASTBOUND ON MAIN STREET HEADING SOUTHBOUND.

>> OKAY, YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT.

IS THAT WHAT THAT NEXT ONE, TOM.

>> YES. >> CAN'T SEE SPENDING MONEY ON GOOD CONCRETE WE JUST LAID.

THAT'S RIGHT. >> AND THEN NUMBER 6 IS GOING NORTH. I THINK THAT ONE IS BIG.

GOING SOUTH AND TURNING RIGHT.

>> THAT'S A BIG ONE. >> I'M ALWAYS STUCK THERE.

>> ME TOO. >> NOW IT JUST GOT PERSONAL.

[LAUGHTER] >> I DEFINITELY AGREE THAT

HAS HIGHER PRIORITIES. >> YEAH.

>> YEAH. I AGREE WITH THAT.

THAT WOULD BE THE LAST TIME WOW, I THINK DECKHAM WOULD BE THE NEXT TO LAST TO THE PGBT HEADED EASTBOUND ON

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MILLER. >> I THINK YOU PUT ROWLETT

ROAD. >> WE'RE GOING TO GO THERE IN A MINUTE, BLAKE. I'M JUST WORKING WITH THE LIST WE HAVE THERE FOR A S.E.C. IF WE CAN.

OKAY ANYBODY WANT TO CHANGE ANY OF THAT?

>> SO WE'RE SAYING WE'RE PUTTING THAT FOURTH ONE PGBT

AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST? >> EITHER THAT OR EITHER ABOVE OR BELOW DECKHAM. SOMEBODY THROW OUT A

SUGGESTION. >> I THINK ABOVE DECKHAM.

>> ABOVE. >> ABOVE DECKHAM.

>> OKAY. SO IS EVERYBODY HAPPEN WITH THAT LIST -- ALL RIGHT. SO BLAKE YOU BROUGHT UP A FEW OTHERS WHAT'S YOUR BIGGEST ISSUE.

>> THE ROWLETT ROAD SOUTHBOUND AT HIGHWAY 66 TO

GO WESTBOUND AND THEN. >> OKAY, JUST DO THAT.

JUST DO THAT FOR NOW. SO WHERE DOES THAT GO, FOLKS, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH IT COSTS? SO IT COULD ELIMINATE PROJECTS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST. BUT THAT'S OKAY, RIGHT?

WHERE DOES IT GO? >> KILLER PROJECTS.

>> THAT WOULD BE NUMBER FOUR.

>> THAT WOULD BE NUMBER FOUR.

THAT'S ANOTHER BIG CUT THROUGH THEY WILL TURN IN BEHIND THAT CHICKEN PLACE AND CUT BEHIND THE WALGREEN'S THEY CUT THROUGH THAT PARKING LOT TO BEAT

THAT CORNER. >> YES.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> AFTER WE DO THE MILLER ROAD THE THREE INTERSECTIONS AT MILLER ROAD.

WE NEVER PUT THE ROWLETT ROAD AT NUMBER 4.

>> I THINK YES BUT I THINK YOU NEED COME BACK TO US WITH COSTS AND ISSUES, TOM. IF WE MAKE THAT DECISION I

JUST WANT TO COME BACK TO IT. >> THAT HE MAY BE SIMILAR IN COST TO THE SOUTHBOUND SERVICE ROAD -- WHERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT LITTLE EXTRA 100 FEET BEFORE THEY PULL OUT. THAT CAN BE EXPENSIVE.

WHAT WAS NEXT ONE SOMEBODY HAD.

ANYBODY. BLAKE.

>> BLAKE. >> IT WAS, IT WAS WESTBOUND 66 TO GO NORTH BOUND ON KENWOOD.

WHY IS MY PHONE RINGING. >> EVERY TIME HE TO GO TO

WAL-MART. >> CAN YOU PULL THE MACK UP AND SHOW ME WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

>> I THINK THERE'S AN ALLEY THERE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW

THAT WILL AFFECT THE ALLEY. >> FIND A MAP OF 66.

WHERE IS THAT AT. >> IS THAT THE RIGHT WHERE YOU TURN OFF OF 66 ON SCENIC, I'M SORRY ON KENWOOD TO GO

TO WAL-MART? >> THE IT IS.

>> THAT'S IN FRONT OF THE BANK.

>> RIGHT. OH, YEAH.

>> IT'S, IT'S WHERE MAIN STREET CONNECTS TO 66.

THEN IT CONTINUES ON UP THAT'S WHEN IT GOES UP TO

KENWOOD. >> IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING

ABOUT. >> SORRY.

I NEVER THINK THAT'S KENWOOD. IT'S KENWOOD.

IT'S MAINLY ON THE OTHER SIDE THEN IT'S KENWOOD.

>> I JUST THINK WELL, I THINK THAT'S HUGE.

>> IT'S LIKE PEOPLE GO TO THE WAL-MART.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND. >> THAT'S BECOME A MORE DANGEROUS INTERSECTION AS WELL.

SO I THINK IT WOULD HELP WITH THE SAFETY ISSUE THERE.

YEAH. >> WHAT WOULD WE WANT TO

RANK IT? >> RIGHT AFTER ROWLETT ROAD.

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YEAH. >> UH-HUH.

WESTBOUND 66. GOING TO BE RANKED NUMBER FIVE. WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? I THINK WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEN FLOAT THAT TO THE BOND SO THEY CAN INCLUDE THAT IN THE PROJECT FOR CONSIDERATION. IT'S HARD TO SAY WHAT STREET PROJECTS ARE GOING TO BE IN THERE THERE ARE 21 STREET PROJECTS AND THEY'RE STILL ASSESSING THOSE RIGHT NOW THE BOND COMMITTEE. BUT IF WE WERE ABLE TO PUT THIS AMOUNT IN THERE EVEN IF IT'S A BALLPARK THEN THEY CAN USE THAT IN THEIR DELIBERATIONS.

I AGREE. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE APART OF THAT FUTURE BOND PACKAGE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO HURT TO US FIND OUT WHAT THE COSTS

WOULD BE. >> I THINK WE CAN CROSS THE RIGHT TURN LANES THAT WE ADDED THAT MIGHT EAT UP A LOT OF THE COSTS I DON'T THINK WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO

THAT ONE. >> YEAH, WELL, WE'LL COME BACK AND ASSESS ALL THAT. BECAUSE WE'RE JUST WE'RE JUST PUTTING SOME STUFF IN ORDER.

WE NEED TO COME BACK WITH FIRM YOU KNOW DECISIONS.

THAT WAS ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS.

THEN THE ONE UP THERE ON LIBERTY GROVE IT WAS ANOTHER

ONE. >> YOU GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ON THAT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE TRAFFIC COUNT TURNING RIGHT IS REAL HIGH UP THERE.

I THINK MAYBE IN THE MORNING.

I'M UP THERE EVERY MORNING AND IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

I DON'T SEE. I'M THERE EVERY DAY.

>> LITERALLY GOING NORTH ON THAT EVERY DAY GOING THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION FOR 30 MINUTES IN THE MORNING AND 30 MINUTES IN THE AFTERNOON. I WOULD PUT THE -- AND THEN LIBERTY GROVE PRINCETON ONE AS THE LAST TWO ON THE PRIORITY LIST AND SEE WHERE THE MONEY FLUSHES OUT.

>> I WOULD SAVE MONEY ON LIBERTY DROVE PRINCETON.

MOST PEOPLE GET IN THE LEFT TURN LANE TO GO STRAIGHT.

IT'S JUST AUTOMATIC. I REALLY HAVE NEVER SEEN TRAFFIC BACKED UP THERE BECAUSE OF SOMEBODY NEEDING TO TURN RIGHT. PLUS, IF THEY DO GET STUNG BY THE LIGHT IT DOESN'T LAST VERY LONG.

SO I THINK YOU MIGHT SAVE YOUR MONEY ON THAT ONE.

>> THE TIME TO DO THAT IS PROBABLY WHEN THAT INTERCONNECTOR GETS BUILT.

>> YEP. >> BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN YOUR

TRAFFIC CLOUNT GO UP. >> YES.

OKAY WE ARE 50 MINUTE INTO A 30 MINUTE ITEM DO.

WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?

>> WHAT WE CAN DO WE CAN WATCH THE VIDEO IF WE NEED TO PICK UP ON THE DETAILS. I WAS TAKING NOTES AND I'M SURE OTHERS ARE, TOO. COUNCIL ARE ECHAUSTED ON THAT DISCUSSION ANYTHING ELSE?

>> I'M GOOD. >> HI.

[3B. Discuss recommendations from the City Council Ethics Sub-Committee regarding ethics guidelines for City Council and Boards and Commissions members. (30 minutes) ]

I'M GOOD. >> DISCUSS RECOMMENDATIONS FROM CITY COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE REGARDING ETHICS GUIDELINES. WE HAVE AN ETHICS SUBCOMMITTEE WHICH IS COMPROMISED OF CHAIR BLAKE

MARGOLIS. >> AND COUNCILMEMBER BROWNIE

SHERRILL. >> WHO IS DOING THE

PRESENTATION. >> ME.

>> OKAY. >> SO, YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO, IN THE CODE OF ETHICS SECTION 2-661 INFORM DEFINITIONS, THIS IS JUST A SMALL CHANGE TO SPECIFY WHAT OFFICERS MEANS AND SO THE PREVIOUS ONE DID NOT SPECIFY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OR BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT WAS AN OFFICER.

HOWEVER IF YOU LOOK AT THE LANE -- VERY SMALL CHANGE.

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SO THIS IS A PROPOSED AMENDMENT OF THE VIOLATION OF CODE ETHICS APPEAL. THE ETHICS SUBCOMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING TO ADD A PROCESS OF VIOLATIONS FOR THE CODE OF ETHICS THIS WILL BE IN THE CASE THAT THERE WAS A POTENTIAL ALLEGED VIOLATION OF THE CODE OF ETHICS. SO A WOULD BE ALL COMPLAINTS OF ALLEGATIONS OF VIOLATIONS AGAINST AN OFFICER OF THE CITY SHALL BE MADE IN WRITING FOLLOWING THE CONTEXT AND SHALL BE MADE ON A FORM PROVIDED BY THE CITY SWORN TO AND FILED A RECORD WITH THE CITY OF SECRETARY'S OFFICE. THIS COMPLAINT SHALL AND THE SPECIFIC SECTIONS OF THE CODE ALLEGED TO HAVE BEEN VIOLATED. A GENERAL COMPLAINT LACKING IN DETAIL WILL NOT BE SUFFICIENT TO INVOKE THE INVESTIGATIVE PROCEDURES CONTAINED HERE-IN AND ANONYMOUS COMPLAINTS SHALL NOT BE CONSIDERED.

A COMPLAINT MAY BE CONSIDERED ONLY AGAINST AN OFFICER WHILE SUCH PERSON HOLDS HIS OR HER POSITION OF OFFICE. B, THE CITY SECRETARY SHALL PROVIDE A COPY OF THE COMPLAINT TO THE AFFECTED OFFICER AND TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE COUNCIL SHALL CONSIDER COMPLAINT AND MAY CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION TO INVESTIGATE AND/OR APPOINT A COMMITTEE COMPROMISED OF NO MORE THAN THREE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL TO INVESTIGATE AND SUBMIT A REPORT TO THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE FOR CONSIDERATION. ANY PERSON SUBJECT TO THE COMPLAINT SHALL BE ENCOURAGED TO ANSWER THE ALLEGATIONS AND THE COMPLAINT IN WRITING TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE PARTIES CONDUCTING THE INVESTIGATION. C, THE COUNCIL SHALL CONSIDER THE MERITS OF THE COMPLAINT AND ANY SUBMITTED REPORTS AND SHALL MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO THE TRUTH OF THE ALLEGATIONS AND THE DISCIPLINARY ACTION IF ANY TO BE -- D SHOULD THE COUNCIL SUSTAINED ALLEGATIONS IN A COMPLAINT IT MAY BY MAJORITY VOTE ONE IS TO A SAME FINDING THE COMPLAINT TO BE WITHOUT MERIT BROUGHT FORWARD FOR THE PURPOSE OF HARASSMENT AND BROUGHT IN BAD FAITH. SO, ISSUE A LETTER OF ADMONITION OR REPRIMAND. THREE, REMOVE FROM OFFICE THE DEFENDING OFFICER OTHER THAN A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL FOR SERIOUS OR REPEATED VIOLATIONS.

FOUR, ISSUE CENSOR OR RECOMMEND RECALL FROM OFFICE IN THE COUNCIL FINDS THAT SERIOUS OR REPEATED VIOLATIONS HAVE BEEN COMMITTED INTENTIONALLY BY A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL. E DELIBERATIONS AND DECISIONS OF THE COUNCIL SHALL BE CONDUCTED WITHOUT THE PARTICIPATION AND F THE DECISION OF THE COUNCIL ON A COMPLAINT SHALL BE FINAL AND BINDING AND NO APPEAL MAY BE TAKEN. NEXT, SO, THIS IS GOING ON TO THE BOARD COMMISSION STANDARDS OF CONDUCT WE DID NOT WANT TO PUT BOARD AND COMMISSION NUMBERS UNDER THE SAME RULES OF THE CODE OF ETHICS GIVEN THAT IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT ROLE IN GOVERNMENT.

SO THIS IS JUST WHAT THE ETHICS COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING A SMALL ADDITION TO THE IT WILL BE G A BORDER COMMISSION MEMBER SHALL MAINTAIN PROFESSIONALISM AND COMMON COURTESY WHEN COMMUNICATING ON CITY MATTERS AND OFFICIAL BUSINESS.

AGAIN SMALL ADDITION. NEXT AND QUESTION.

>> SO THANK YOU THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN WANTING TO TO DO FOR A LONG TIME NOW.

REALLY APPRECIATE THE SUBCOMMITTEE GETTING RECOMMENDATION DONE IT'S NOT AN EASY PROCESS SO I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE IT. MARK I WILL HAVE MORE COMMENTS IN A MINUTE BUT MARTHA HAS HER HAND UP.

>> YEAH, SO MY FIRST QUESTION WOULD BE AS FAR AS

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>> FOLLOWING AN ELECTION. >> SO THAT WOULD BE THE CITIZENS. IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF COUNCILMEMBERS A MAJORITY DECIDING THEY WANT TO REMOVE

A COUNCILMEMBER. >> RIGHT.

BECAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE THE WAY THAT SECTION READ IT.

IT LOOKED LIKE TO ME THAT IT WAS STATING THAT COUNCIL HAD THE RIGHT TO RECALL ANOTHER COUNCILMEMBER.

SO, BUT I'M SURE HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE WORDING OF ALL

OF THIS ITEM? >> I HAVE.

>> THERE WAS A BIT OF AN ISSUE EJECTING ANOTHER COUNCILMEMBER THAT PERSON WHOEVER THE GETS THE PROPOSED EJECTEE IF YOU WILL WAS PUT THERE BY ONE OF THE CITIZENS, RIGHT. THE CITIZENS WILL MAKE THE DECISIONS. AND A RECALL ELECTION.

THERE ARE ALSO SOME CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE IN THE LANGUAGE PULL OFF THE PACKET IT'S ON PAGE 34 IT'S ITEM D.

IT SAYS YOU KNOW IF THE ALLEGATIONS HAVE SOME MERIT THE FOLLOWING COULD HAPPEN. ISSUED A STATEMENT SAYING THAT THE COMPLAINT IS WITHOUT MERIT.

ISSUE A LETTER OF REPRIMAND. REMOVE FROM OFFICE THE OFFENDING OFFICER OTHER THAN A MEMBER OF COUNCIL.

REMEMBER THERE'S OTHER BUT IT'S AFTER THAT.

I'M SORRY. >> ISSUE A SENSOR OR RECOMMEND RECALL. THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S RECALLED IT'S JUST RECOMMENDING RECALL.

>> SO I GUESS I THINK THAT HOW, HOW A RECALL IS CONDUCTED SHOULD BE ADDED TO, TO THAT SO THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND -- THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR RECALL IS A PROCESS THAT GOES THROUGH THE COMMUNITY -- WHAT I WOULD BE NERVOUS ABOUT PUTTING IT IN THIS POLICY -- DUPLICATING WHAT IS ALREADY IN THE CHARTER.

YOU WOULD FOLLOW THE EXISTING PROCESS FOR THAT, THAT IS OUTLINED IN CHARTER. OTHERWISE YOU COULD HAVE A

CONFLICT. >> AND THEN.

AND, OKEYDOKE. >> DOES THE ETHICS SUBCOMMITTEE FEEL STRONG ABOUT KEEPING THE RECOMMEND RECALL OR WOULD ITEM FOUR BE BETTER SERVED TO JUST SAY ISSUE A SENSOR BECAUSE IF THE PUBLIC WANTS TO RECALL

THEY'LL GO DO THAT. >> UH-HUH.

SO I'M NOT SURE IT WOULD BEHOOVE US AS A COUNCIL TO

RECOMMEND A RECALL. >> ALSO OUR CHARTER GIVES US THE AUTHORITY IF THERE'S A BIG ENOUGH REASON TO BY MAJORITY REMOVE A COUNCILMEMBER WITHIN THAT CHARTER. THAT THERE'S CONFLICTING I GUESS STATEMENT THE POLICIES THERE.

I'LL MAKE THAT CORRECTION. IS IS EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT. AT THE VERY END THERE FOR

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COUNCIL. >> JUST INCLUDING SOCIAL MEDIA. NO I KNOW WE WON'T HOLD THEM TO THE SAME STANDARDS THAT WE DO FOR COUNCIL BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT SPECIFICALLY CALLING OUT SOCIAL MEDIA FOR COMMISSIONS WOULD BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT IS AN ISSUE WE HAVE HAD TO ADDRESS IN THE PAST.

>> MAYBE -- AND OFFICIAL BUSINESSES COMMA INCLUDING VIA SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS.

>> YEAH, I LIKE THAT. >> I THINK THAT'S A GREAT

WAY TO ADJUST THAT. >> YES, I DO, TOO.

I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED DAVID IF YOU CAN CLEAR THIS UP -- WOULD THAT PRESENT A LIABILITY ISSUE FOR US.

THAT SPECIFIC LANGUAGE WAS ADDED.

IT WOULDN'T. THE LIABILITIES FIRST AMENDMENT I WOULD START TO DO HIGH AND WANT TO ADD THE NEXT ONE INCLUDING VIA SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS IF

Y'ALL LIKE THAT LANGUAGE. >> I LIKE THAT.

THAT COVERS ALL OF THEM. >> UNTIL THE NEXT BIG THING.

LIKE TIKTOK. IS TIKTOK SOCIAL MEDIA.

>> YES, IT IS. I'M JUST TEASING.

I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER HANDS UP I WILL RAISE A QUESTION THAT A CITIZEN RAISED WITH ME.

THAT IS ON ITEM -- WERE YOU SAYING SOMETHING? ON ITEM 16 MAKE DEROGATORY COMMENTS AGAINST INDIVIDUALS, BUSINESSES THE CITIZEN THAT RAISED THIS TO ME WOULD BE CONCERNED THAT WE MIGHT HAVE AN ISSUE IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO FILE A BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU COMPLAINT OR IF THEY WANTED TO DO A RATING OF A BUSINESS ON OUR INTENT IS TO MAINTAIN PROFESSIONALISM AND NOT SLAM, YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE AN OFFICER IN THE CITY WE WANT TO YOU MAINTAIN PROFESSIONALISM AND NOT SLAM, YOU KNOW CITIES AND BUSINESSES. THIS IS KIND OF WHERE IT GETS IFFY. BUT I WOULD SAY THAT IF SOMEONE ON THIS COUNCIL IS GOING TO RATE A BUSINESS THAT IS THEIR RIGHT TO DO SO.

THIS WOULD I GUESS TAKE EFFECT IF YOU ARE IN AN OFFICIAL CAPACITY. THIS IS WHERE IT GETS IFFY.

IS WHERE DOES THIS COME INTO PLAY AND WHERE DOES IT NOT COME INTO PLAY. SO I DON'T -- IF YOU ARE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH A BUSINESS AND YOU ARE REPORTING IT TO THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU THAT IS PROFESSIONAL, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THAT'S THERE FOR. BUT IF YOU GET ON FACEBOOK AND JUST SAY THEY'RE MESS YOU KNOW DON'T DO THINGS LIKE OR WHATEVER THAT'S NOT PROFESSIONAL.

FACEBOOK IS NOT A PROFESSIONAL PLACE TO BE.

>> WHAT IF YOU'RE DOING A REVIEW ON YAHOO! AND YOU GIVE THEM ONE STAR INSTEAD OF FIVE AND YOU SAY

WHY. >> I THINK THAT'S AN INDIVIDUAL RIGHT. I DON'T WANT TO SAY.

>> IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL RIGHT TO SAY IT ON FACEBOOK, TOO.

>> RIGHT. THAT'S WHERE I GET

PERSONALLY CONFUSED. >> BUT IT SEEMS LIKE REVIEWING A BUSINESS IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN

PERSONAL ATTACKS. >> BUT YOU KNOW -- IT SAYS MAKE DEROGATORY COMMENTS ABOUT BUSINESSES.

>> WHAT IS A DEROGATORY COMMENT?

>>. >> IF YOU ARE TELLING THE STRUGG IS IT A DEROGATORY COMMENT.

>> DOES 15 NOT JUST COVER IT?

AND DO WE REALLY NEED 16. >> WELL, THAT'S ON CITY

MATTERS. >> THAT'S ALL WE CAN CONTROL THOUGH. THESE ARE OFFICERS OF THE

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>> THIS IS BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT THIS IS CITY

COUNCIL. >> COULD WE USE OTHER WORD THERE MAYBE UNTRUE OR UNSUBSTANTIATED.

>> I'M SORRY, DAVID. -- BOARD MEMBER WITH A LOCAL RESTAURANT ON YELP THEY ARE DOING THAT IN A PERSONAL CAPACITY NOT IN THEIR CAPACITY AS A MEMBER I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYBODY ON THIS COUNCIL WOULD WISH YOU SOME TYPE OF REPRIMAND OR DISCIPLINARY ACTION FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. VERSUS THINGS IN THEIR OFFICIAL CAPACITY. SO, IN THESE TYPES OF POLICIES -- WHETHER OR NOT THE TYPE OF COMMENT THAT THEY MADE THE DEROGATORY COMMENT IS IN FACT UNPROFESSIONAL AND REFLECTS POORLY ON THE CITY.

>> WELL, YOU JUST ANSWERED. >> I THINK NUMBER 15 WHICH APPLIES TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND OFFICERS WE TALK LIMITED TO OFFICIAL BUSINESS AND CITY MATTERS AND WE HAVE TO. NUMBER 16 WHICH IS ONLY APPLICABLE TO OFFICERS. YOU KNOW MAYBE WE HAD MAKE DEROGATORY COMMENTS IN OFFICIAL CAPACITY AGAINST

INDIVIDUALS BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. >> I DON'T THINK DAVID DOES.

>> WHAT DID YOU SAY? >> HOW MANY COMMERCIALS DID YOU SEE ON TV WHERE CANDIDATES WERE MAKING DEROGATORY COMMENTS ABOUT THEIR OPPONENTS?

EVERY SINGLE AD ON TV. >> YOU CAN'T BE A CITY COUNCIL PERSON AND RUN FOR OFFICE SO THAT ISN'T APPLICABLE. [LAUGHTER] THIS IS WHEN WE'RE IN OFFICE AS A CITY COUNCIL IF WE'RE IN OUR OFFICIAL CAPACITY WE SHOULD NOT BE MAKING DEROGATORY COMMENTS ABOUT A BUSINESS.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT ANYBODY JUST SAID.

>> DOES EVERYBODY LIKE THE CHANGE TO SAY IN OFFICIAL

CAPACITY ON NUMBER 16. >> THAT'S FINE.

MATT YOU'RE VERY QUIET. YOU MAKE ME NERVOUS WHEN

YOU'RE QUIET. >> I'M FINE.

I KIND OF AGREE WITH DAVID. I THINK IF WE'RE THE JUDGE AND JURY ON THEY WE CAN MAKE THAT.

ONE OF THE REASONS THIS GAME WAS BECAUSE OF COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE IN NONOFFICIAL CAPACITIES ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

SO I THINK YOU TAKE THAT AWAY.

YOU GOT TO LEAVE IT AS IT IS WE GET TO MAKE THAT CALL.

>> I THINK I AGREE WITH YOU MATT.

>> YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT WHEN THIS ISSUE IS NOT STUFF THAT WAS DONE IN OFFICIAL CAPACITY. SO YOU'RE RIGHT.

SO I FLIP BACK. >> SEE HOW EASY YOU ARE.

HEY. >> SO, ETHICS SUBCOMMITTEE WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? YOU LIKE THE CHANGES AND THE NONCHANGES? -- YEAH.

>> YEAH. IT'S FINE WITH ME.

>> I THINK WE'RE NOW AT -- ANY OTHER QUESTIONS,

COMMENTS OR OPINIONS. >> WELL DONE, I LIKE IT.

IT'S NOT EASY. >> HE TO EDIT IT THROUGH ME,

TOO SO IT WAS NOT EASY. >> YOU GET DOUBLE THUMBS-UP.

TAKE CARE OF THEM AND TAKE CARE OF IT NOW.

>> ALL RIGHT. HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN NOW?

>> IMMAKE THOSE -- I WILL MAKE THOSE CHANGES AND WE'LL ADD IT TO THE NEXT CONSENT AGENDA.

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>> -- BRIAN. >> THAT'S VERY GOOD OPTION.

I CAN WORK WITH BLAKE AND WE'LL MAKE THE CHANGES AND WE'LL GET IT INTO THE NEXT ONE OF OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETINGS AS AN ACTUAL RESOLUTION.

>> OKAY. >> ORDINANCE, ORDINANCE.

>> RIGHT SO ARE WE DONE. GOOD JOB GUYS REALLY

APPRECIATE YOUR WORK. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT WE MADE UP 10 MINUTES. TRACY DISCUSS 2021

[3C. Discuss 2021 Legislative Agenda for the City of Rowlett. (45 minutes) ]

>> LET'S SEE I HAVE A POWER POINT PRESENTATION.

WE HAVE A LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE.

>> LAURA WOULD YOU GO TO THE LAST PAGE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS THE CURRENT VERSION.

>> GO TO THAT -- I'M SORRY SECOND TO THE LAST SLIDE.

THAT WAS SAVED IN THE FOLDER.

I APOLOGIZE. COUNSEL SWHAIL THIS IS ABOUT I SENT YOU GUYS A REVISED LIST OF LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITIES. I HAD WORKED WITH THE MAYOR AND WITH WHITNEY AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON THAT AND HAD TWO SEPARATE FILES UPLODDED THE WRONG ONE.

SO THAT'S WHY I SAID WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE CORRECT ONE IN THERE. MY APOLOGIES STACEY THAT

THIS ONE IS ON ME. >> SO WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR HER TO PULL THAT UP. THE SUBCOMMITTEE IS COMPROMISED OF WHITNEY AS CHAIR, AND MARTHA AND MYSELF AND BRIAN. WE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF HOURS GOING THROUGH ALL THIS ALREADY.

>> YEAH. SO, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS WHILE WE'RE WAITING. I KNOW SOME OF THE INITIAL SLIDES ON THAT. GUYS THIS IS, THIS IS A BIG DEAL. YOU KNOW, IN YEARS PAST.

ROWLETT WE'VE ALMOST ALWAYS HAD EVERY YEAR IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE HAD A BILL THAT WE HAVE INTRODUCED.

YOU KNOW, THERE WAS THE YEARS THE MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. THERE WAS THE YEAR THAT WE WANTED TO CHANGE THE WAY THAT COURT OVERSIGHT.

THEN SOME SAPPHIRE BAY STUFF THAT WE HAVE DONE.

SO PAYING ATTENTION TO THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION WHAT'S GOING ON. THEY CAN ENSURE WE ARE READ TO MEET WITH OUR DELEGATION THIS MAY BE NEXT TO THE BUDGET ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE GET TO DO EACH YEAR. JUST TO TALK ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT IT IS IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE STACEY WHEN YOU'RE READY.

>> WHEN YOU GO TO THE 2019 LEGISLATION THERE WERE 7500 BILLS THAT WERE INTRODUCED 1400 WERE PASSED.

HERE THE INTERESTING THING OVER 2,000 BILLS AFFECTED CITIES. IN THE END OVER 300 OF THOSE WERE APPROVED AS YOU KNOW, THERE WERE SOME THAT WERE EXTREMELY DETRIMENTAL I KNOW A LOT OF US -- NEXT SLIDE.

SO, WE HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO THIS IN THE 2019 VERSION YOU KNOW THERE WAS A GROUP OF LEGISLATORS TO KIND OF THIS ANTI-CITY OR ANTI-COUNTY MENTALITY.

IT WAS VERY HARD TO COMBAT. THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT DID NOT GET APPROVED THE BUT THERE WERE OTHER ISSUES THAT WERE SUCH AS SENATE BILL 2 ASK THINGS LIKE THAT.

UNLIKE 2019. I THINK WHAT WOULD DRIVE

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I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY OTHER WAY YOU ARE GOING TO DO IT. THERE'S JUST HUGE STAKES.

WE ARE ALL GOING TO HAVE TO WORK DOUBLEY HARD.

NEXT SLIDE. BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF TOOLS AVAILABLE FOR US TO TRACK WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN AT THE STATE THERE A LOT OF OTHER ASSOCIATIONS.

NEXT SLIDE. YOU CAN SEE HOW YOU CAN RESEARCH FILL UP SPECIFIC BILLS WE DO USE THAT AS A TOOL IS THAT YOU CAN GO INTO YOU HAVE TO CREATE AN ACCOUNT. YOU CAN LIST BILLS ASK FOR THEM TO ALERT YOU. WHEN THEY MOVE OUT OF COMMITTEE THERE'S SOME AMENDMENT OR CHANGE THEN YOU WILL GET AN E-MAIL. THEN YOU CAN TUNE INTO IT FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT BILL.

NEXT SLIDE. THEY THE START PREFILING LEGISLATION AS EARLY AS THIS COMING MONDAY.

SO IT'S COMING UP PRETTY QUICK BE MONDAY MAY 31ST TYPICALLY THE GOVERNOR CAN SIGN -- IN THE '86 TEXAS LEGISLATIVE SESSION WE BUILT BROCHURE LIKE WE HAVE DONE WITH SEVERAL PREVIOUS SESSIONS TO KIND OF TELL SO WE CAN SHARE WITH OUR DELEGATION SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT ROW THELET WHAT MAKES IT IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY THERE ARE THINGS WE SUPPORT THINGS THAT WE OPPOSE BECAUSE JUST SEE THIS LIST WE WILL LOOK AT HERE IN A FEW MINUTES. IT'S NOT A LOT OF TIME TO GO THROUGH ALL 50 ITEMS. TIPIC WILL WHAT I WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST THE CITY WILL SET ASIDE THAT'S WHAT WE WILL FOCUS MOST OF OUR ATTENTION ON.

NEXT SLIDE. SO FOR THE 86 THINGS THAT WE OPPOSED FOR THE MOST PART WE OPPOSED BILLS THAT WOULD SET MORE STRINGENT REVENUE CAPS THAT DID HAPPEN ANYWAY THERE WERE SEVERAL BILLS -- SO IT WAS NOT A GOOD YEAR FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT CITIES AND COUNTIES.

NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE WAITED JUST A LITTLE BIT LONGER WHO WANTED TO HAVE SOME OF THE OTHER AGENCIES SOME OF THEIR AUTHORITIES AS WELL. IN YEAR'S PAST WE'VE DONE THIS EARLIER IN OCTOBER BOTH TEXAS COMMISSION NOW HAS THEIR PRIORITIES OUT THERE R.T.C. THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL DOES I THINK HELP INFORM US BETTER MAKE BETTER DECISIONS.

NEXT SLIDE. BASICALLY THIS IS WHERE WE

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FROM THE SINCE IT HAS VALUE TO BE DISCUSSED MAYBE POSSIBLY YOU KNOW FINAL AMENDMENT THAT'S MAKE IT A GOOD BILL. BUT THERE ARE SOME BILL THAT'S JUST ABSOLUTELY HAVE VERY LITTLE VALUE BAKLEY TO LOCAL COST IN THIS REGARD SO THEIR HIGHEST PRIORITY IS TO SO THAT'S IN THERE AS WELL. NEXT SLIDE.

AS THE MAYOR THE INDICATED WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE WE HAVE DONE OUR PRELIMINARY RESEARCH LOOKED AT WHAT OTHER AGENCIES WERE DEVELOPING OR HAVE PUBLISHED AND JUST CONSIDERING BACK THE LAST FEW TERMS WE RECEIVED A DRAFT TO START THIS DIALOGUE TONIGHT.

BUT I HAVE ISN'T THAT TO YOU NOW.

WHAT WE'LL DO -- ONCE WE HAVE FINAL FEEDBACK THEN WE WILL PREPARE GET THAT UP AND RUNNING.

NEXT SLIDE. -- WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NO SURPRISES -- OBVIOUSLY SOME BILLS I'LL GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE IS REPEALING -- THAT PROHIBITED CITIES AND METHODS USED IN CONSTRUCTION OF PRESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES. WE WOULD SUPPORT REPEALING THAT BILL AS WE WENT BACK AND DID OUR RESEARCH ABOUT HOW IT OFTEN GOT THERE IN FRONT OF THE LEGISLATURE IT SEEMED TO BE VERY MUCH ONE SIDED YOU KNOW COMING FROM THE BUILDING INDUSTRY. THEN, OF COURSE, THERE'S SOME OTHER ISSUES LIKE PORTIONS OF HOUSE BILL 3167.

AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH WHAT WE CALL THE 30 DAY SHOT CLOCK. SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WE WOULD LOVE TO REPEAL SOME OF THAT.

YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY ESSENTIALLY HAVE DONE IS GIVE PUT CITIES TECHNICALLY AND EVEN COUNTIES ON NOISE WHEN YOU GET A DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS YOU HAVE ONLY 30 DAYS TO EITHER HERE'S THE ISSUE WE HAVE. THERE ARE TIMES WHERE WE MIGHT ACTUALLY LIKE A PROJECT.

IT MAY MATCH OUR COMP PLAN IN THE ZONING.

IT MAY -- A GREAT PROJECT FOR US WE LOVE IT.

BUT AT THE POINT THAT THEY COMMIT THEIR PLAN IT'S NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME. GENERALLY SPEAKING WE CAN WORK THROUGH THAT WITH THE DEVELOPER IF WE HAVE TIME.

BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE WITH 30 DAYS IT IS UNLIKELY FROM A PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVE IT IS UNLIKELY WE HAVE ALREADY FOUND ISSUES WITH THIS WE CAN MAKE ENOUGH CHANGES BEFORE 30 DAYS WITHOUT HAVING TO DENY THE PERMIT. THEN HAVE TO TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AGAIN. IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY TO THE DEVELOPER AND COSTS A LOT OF TIME FOR START AND SEE. WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE IS THAT THEY WOULD REPEAL SOME OF THAT EVEN GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY THIS WOULD BE GREAT TO EVEN JUST HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE APPLICANT TO REQUEST AN EXTENSION IN OTHER WORDS WE WOULD DENY IT IN THE 30 DAYS BUT IF THEY ASK, IF THEY WERE ABLE TO ASK FOR THAT THEN WE COULD ACTUALLY GIVE THEM 60 DAYS OR MAYBE EVEN UP TO 90 DAYS TO GO THROUGH THAT SAME PROCESS.

OF COURSE THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE WOULD OPPOSE AND

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D.N.A. HAVE COME UP. I KNOW THE MAYOR AND WHITNEY MIGHT WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS, TOO.

THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC.

THE STATE ISSUED A STATE OF DISASTER.

UNDER SENATE BILL 2 THERE IS A PROVISION SOME THERE THAT CITIES CAN ALSO ISSUE THAT STATE OF DISASTER.

THIS IT CHANGES THE WAY THAT THE TAX CALCULATIONS ARE MADE FOR PROPERTY TAXES FOR UP TO THREE YEARS.

SO THERE WERE A NUMBER OF LEGISLATORS INCLUDING THE GOVERNOR HIMSELF THAT SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T THINK THAT THE PANDEMIC WOULD QUALIFY YET IT MET ALL THE DEFINITIONS IN THE ACT. WE WOULD EXPECT THAT THERE MIGHT BE A PUSH FROM SOME LEGISLATORS TO CHANGE THAT.

WHAT WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT WAS PUT IN INTENTIONALLY FWAUZ THERE ARE TIMES IT MIGHT BE A HURRICANE OR SOME OTHER DISASTER WE ALL REMEMBER OUR 2015 TORNADO WHERE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL FOR US. THEN JUST A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE SAW LAST WEEK THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT AND ITS MEMBER CITIES YOU KNOW, BASICALLY SETTLED THEIR AGREEMENT TO DISMISS THEIR CASE. ONE THING WE'RE EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT STILL IS WE WOULD HOPE THAT, THAT WE COULD STILL PRESS FORWARD WITH THAT.

WE WOULD ALSO LOVE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE HAVE ACTUAL REPRESENTATION ON THE BOARD.

SO THERE'S JUST SOME THINGS IN THERE THIS YEAR THAT WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND NOT HAVE THE RUG PULLED OUT FROM UNDERNEATH US. I THINK THERE IS ONE MORE SLIDE COUNCIL REALLY FOR TONIGHT ANY OTHER ISSUES OR ITEMS WE WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER.

AND I THINK WE MAY WANT TO PUT IT DOWN FOR A WHILE AS WE GO THROUGH DISCUSSION BUT STACEY KEEP THAT OTHER SLIDE THE ONE JUST BEFORE THIS ONE READY TO BE PULLED BACK UP.

SO WHILE -- I'M IN A LOT OF MEETINGS WITH ALL KINDS OF TOPICS MORE SO THAN HISTORICALLY.

AND COME AND THE ONE I WAS IN TODAY MAYORS THROUGHOUT THE METROPOLITAN. ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS EVERYONE HAS IS YOU KNOW TRYING TO TAKE AWAY THE ABILITY FOR CITIES TO PARTICIPATE IN ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS T.M.L. AND DALLAS REGIONAL MOBILITY COALITION AND TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZATIONS BECAUSE THOSE ORGANIZATIONS LOBBY ON BEHALF OF CITIZENS.

AND YOU KNOW THAT WAS A BILL THAT WAS PUT FORTH YOU KNOW TWO YEARS AGO AND SHOT DOWN BY THE HOUSE BUT THERE ARE EVERY INDICATION THAT THAT'S GOING TO COME AT US VERY HARD. WE ALL CAN SEE HOW MUCH BENEFIT THOSE ORGANIZATIONS ARE FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

CERTAINLY WE HAVE NEVER SEEN IT MORE FROM THIS YEAR FROM A T.M.L. STANDPOINT. T.M.L. HAS JUST DONE WORK WITH REGARDS TO HELPING US THROUGH ALL THE COVID-19 AND ALL ANOTHER THINGS THAT HAVE GONE ON THIS YEAR.

SO I THINK THAT HAS TO LOCAL DECISION MAKING HAS TO BE VERY HIGH THIS ONE HAS TO BE RIGHT UP THERE WITH IT.

THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE DOING SB 2 AGAIN THIS WILL PROBABLY BE VERY HIGH ON THEIR AGENDA.

BLAKE HAD YOU YOUR HAND UP. >> YES, SO, I DIDN'T SEE ON THE LIST SO I APOLOGIZE IF IT WAS THERE.

ARE WE LOOKING TO SUPPORT TAKING BACK THE CONTROL REQUIRING REGULATING MACERY --

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>> THAT WAS BUILDING MATERIALS HE WAS TALKING ABOUT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.

THANK YOU. HE WAS TALKING ABOUT REPELLING THAT PORTION. I THINK THAT'S ALSO VERY HIGH ON OUR LIST. DON'T YOU ALL ON THE

SUBCOMMITTEE. >> YOU CAN'T HAVE A LIST THAT BIG AND GET ANY ATTENTION.

BROWNIE YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP.

>> YES, IN THE PACKET I THINK IT WAS THE SECOND PACKAGE I JUST GOT THE PAGE PRINTED OFF HERE.

IT SAYS ROWLETT SUPPORT AND IT HAS BULLET POINTS.

I WILL NEED DAVID'S HELP HERE.

IT SAYS LEGISLATION TO AMEND THE TEXAS TAX CODE TO REMOVE ROWLETT'S EXEMPTION FOR HAVING THE MUNICIPAL JUDGE

SUPERVISE COURT STAFF. >> BROWNIE, THAT WAS THE OLD VERSION THAT WAS SENT OUT INAPPROPRIATELY.

THAT'S WHY THEY FIXED IT TODAY.

>> OKAY. THAT'S WHY -- THAT WAS ONE OF THOSE WE TOOK OFF. THAT WAS ON TWO YEARS AGO.

>> O OKAY. I READ THAT ABOUT 20 TIMES AND I COULDN'T MAKE HEADS OR TAILS.

>> LOOK AT THE NEW, DID YOU SEND IT TO EVERYBODY OR JUST SEND IT TO THE LEGISLATIVE --

>> I SENT IT TO COUNCIL. >> LOOK AT THE NEW ONE

BROWNIE. >> OKAY, THAT'S FINE I JUST

COULDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT. >> WE HAD ALREADY DONE THAT.

>> DONE, CHECKED OFF AND DONE.

>> WHITNEY AS CHAIR MARTHA AS ANOTHER MEMBER WHAT ELSE

DO Y'ALL HAVE. >> DO WE NEED TO GO THROUGH AND KIND OF DEPICT WHAT THE TOP FIVE OR SIX ARE TONIGHT?

>> I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

>> I'M THINKING IT'S ALL OF THEM.

>> IT IS. BUT YOU HAVE TO IDENTIFY SOME DEGREE OF THE TOP OF THE FLOAT.

>> YEAH, TO TAMMY'S POINT, WE ONLY HAVE A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME WHEN WE GO AND VISIT OUR LEGISLATURES OR OUR LEGISLATORS AND SO TO HAVE A TOP FIVE OR SIX IS REALLY CRITICAL AND YES, WE CAN HAVE THEM ALL ON A FLIER BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL IMPORTANT BUT I DO AGREE WITH WHITNEY AND THE MAYOR WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT WILL JUST GET LOST IN THE TREES.

WE NEED TO PICK THEM OUT. I MEANT TO SAY THIS EARLIER WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE LAW BEING BUILT.

I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL ARE AWARE OF THIS TWO YEARS AGO THAT BILL WAS INTRODUCED BY SENATOR HALL AND THAT WAS PASSED BY THE SENATE AND SHOT DOWN IN THE HOUSE.

BUT ONE OF THE PROVISIONS THAT WAS IN THERE IS THAT CITY OFFICIALS. NOT LOBBYISTS CITY OFFICIALS WOULD NO LONGER BE ABLE TO GO TO AUSTIN TO TESTIFY WITHOUT HAVING AN INVITATION FROM THE COMMITTEE.

>> WELL, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG THAT SOUNDS LIKE A CONSTITUTIONAL MATTER THAT WOULD BE OVERTHROWN BY SUPREME COURT PRETTY QUICKLY.

>> SO ANYWAY THAT'S THE KIND OF JUNK THAT'S IN THAT BILL.

>> THE BILL DIDN'T PASS. IT WAS SB-29 WE'RE LOOKING UP. IT'S NOT A GOOD BILL.

>> BUT YOU ARE GOING RIGHT BACK AFTER IT WHITNEY.

I KNOW THEY ARE. GO AHEAD.

THAT'S WHY I FEEL LIKE THAT NEEDS TO BE ONE OF THOSE TOP FIVE. I WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT HERE'S THE DEAL TO BRING THIS THING BACK TO YOU GUYS ON WHAT WOULD THAT BE NOVEMBER 17TH TO PASS A RESOLUTION WITH OUR OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT BECAUSE I COULD ACTUALLY GET THE FLYER DOWN WE COULD HAVE THAT IN OUR PACKET.

ALL RIGHT. SO.

SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE PULL THIS LIST BACK UP. LET'S PULL THE LIST BACK UP.

STACEY THAT ONE-PAGE. SO LOCAL DECISION MAKING HAS GOT TO BE NUMBER ONE. WHAT WERE YOU GOING TO SAY WHITNEY. PREVIOUS LIVES STACEY, THANK

YOU. >> I MEAN YOU GOT TO HAVE A GENERAL ONE THAT YOU KNOW THE CITIZENS THOSE CLOSEST TO THE CITIZENS MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS FOR OUR INDIVIDUAL BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE THAT GENERAL.

>> YEAH. >> IF YOU DO THAT, THAT HITS

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SO WE DON'T NEED I DON'T A LOT OF THEM CAN BE UMBRELLAED UNDER A GENERAL STATEMENT LIKE THAT.

IN MY OPINION. >> YEAH.

I DO THINK WE MIGHT WANT A SPECIFIC ONE ON THE PROPERTY TAX SIDE IN REGARDS TO DON'T LOWER THE CAP ANY MORE. THE THREE YEAR PERIOD NEEDS TO REMAIN. SO I DO THINK WE NEED A SEPARATE ONE ON THE PROPERTY TAX AND NOT JUST COVER THAT IN THE LOCAL DECISION MAKING PEACE.

I WENT THROUGH AND WITH MY HIGHLIGHTER I PICKED SIX THAT WERE JUST ON MY TOP OF THE CREAM KIND OF LIST.

IT DID NOT INCLUDE ONE OF THE VERY GENERAL ONES THAT SAID YOU KNOW THE GOVERNMENT'S -- THAT'S WHAT THESE SIX ARE. THE FIRST BULLET ON THE SUPPORT SIDE WHICH TALKS ABOUT THE SBG CAP AND TRYING TO RECALL THAT A LITTLE BIT WE WOULD OPPOSE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THAT WE WOULD OPPOSE ANY EFFORTS TO FURTHER RERESTRICT THE USE OF THOSE PROPERTY TAX SO THAT'S ONE KIND OF CONCEPT THAT WE NEED TO BE VERY FOCUSED ON. ANOTHER ONE IS THE ONE THAT WE TALK ABOUT BEFORE WHICH WAS REPEALING THE PARTS OF -- WHICH, WHICH SEVERELY RESTRICT OUR ABILITY AND OUR ABILITY TO TO REGULATE WHAT TYPE OF BUILDING INSTRUCTION MATERIALS CAN BE USED. WE WERE NO LONGER ABLE TO DO THAT. THE THIRD ONE WAS UNTHAT BRIAN HAD BROUGHT UP AS WELL THAT WAS THE 30 DAY SHOT CLOCK. WHERE WHERE WE WANT TO GIVE THE APPLICANT A LITTLE BIT MORE BREATHING ROOM WHEN WE WANT TO AND MAKE A BETTER PROCESS.

THEN I PICKED THREE ON THE OPPOSED SIDE.

ONE WAS THE DISASTER CLAUSE THAT BRIAN HAD TALKED ABOUT WHERE THERE'S A MOVEMENT TO REDEFINE WHAT A DISASTER IS AGAIN THE DEFINITION WAS WAY TOO BROAD THEY WANT TO TRY TO NARROW THAT. THE SECOND ONE HAS TO DO WITH ANY LEGISLATION THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY OUR ABILITY TO TAKE THE PAY ISSUE. THEN THE THIRD ONE THE ONE THAT TAMMY HAD BROUGHT UP ABOUT USING PUBLIC FUNDS TO COMMUNICATE WITH LEGISLATORS OR -- IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE TOP THREE ISSUES I WOULD SAY THOSE ARE JUST MY TOP SIX FOCUS AREAS THAT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE NEED TO BE PRETTY PINPOINT FOCUSED ON. ONE THING I WOULD MAYBE WELL, I DON'T KNOW. I WAS THISIC ABOUT THE WHOLE -- LET ME FIND IT. WE GOT ONE IN THERE ABOUT

RIGHT OF WAY. >> YEAH, THE OPPOSED ONE ON THAT THIRD SHEET THAT TALKS ABOUT ERODING MUNICIPAL THE AUTHORITY. DEVELOPING MATTERS EMINENT DOMAIN. I THINK THAT ONE IS PRETTY

IMPORTANT. >> I AGREE WITH THAT, TOO.

-- >> LAST YEAR WE HAD TWO YEARS AGO I GUESS WE HAD SEVEN ITEMS THAT WE SUPPORTED AND SEVEN ITEMS THAT WE OPPOSED WE HAD 14 DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT WE PUT ON THAT FLIER THAT WENT OUT

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BUT I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PLACE TO THE START.

>> SO COUNCIL, I CAN'T SEE YOU RAISE YOUR HAND SO ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK JUST SPEAK.

WHO LIKES WHAT WHITNEY SAID WHO WANTS TO ADD OR TAKE

AWAY FROM IT? >> I LIKE WHAT HE SAID AND I ALSO LIKE ONE THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT THAT IS ON THE NORTH TEXAS CHAMBER ONE WHICH IS MAINTAIN ALL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOLS IN SUPPORT INNOVATIVE FINANCING TOOLS FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

I THINK THAT ONE IS A PRETTY IMPORTANT ONE AS WELL I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ONE FALLS WITH WHAT WE DID.

I DID COMPARE AND CONTRAST. >> IT'S THE SECOND ONE FROM THE VERY BOTTOM UNOPPOSED. GOTCHA.

>> -- >> AND DO YOU THINK THAT THE ISSUE COULD BE FOLDED IN TO THAT.

>> I THINK I WOULD FOLD THAT IN THAT'S VERY PERSONAL TO US. WHEN WE ARE TALKING TO OUR LEGISLATORS WE NEED THEM TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT IMPACTS

US. >> WITH THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL. IF YOU WANTED TO SPELL THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE AS AN EXAMPLE WITHIN THAT,

YOU KNOW, LINE ITEM. >> I LIKE THAT.

I THINK WE CAN PUT THOSE TWO TOGETHER.

>> YEAH. I'M TAKING NOTES SO WE'RE

GOOD. >> WHAT ELSE?

>> I LIKE YOUR LIST. THE ONLY OTHER ONE THAT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL COME UP OR NOT IS JUST TRYING TO FIND ONE THAT WOULD MAYBE MEET IT IS ANYTHING THAT WOULD THAT I MIGHT FALL UNDER MIGHT FALL UNDER THE BROADER. ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH DEFUNDING POLICE OR PERSONNEL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT'S GONE ON OVER THE PAST YEAR I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WORD THAT OR WHERE IT GETS LUMPED IN IT FALLS UNDER ONE THAT I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ONE TO CALL OUT.

>> I LIKE, THAT MATT WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT ON THE LIST. BUT IF YOU LOOK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SECOND PAGE IT SAYS OPPOSED LEGISLATION THAT WOULD OR OTHERWISE DETRIMENTAL CITIES.

I THINK ADDING AMENDMENTS TO DEFUND OUR POLICE I THINK THAT'S A GREAT THINGS TO ADD. ADD IT ON.

OF THAT THE ONLY THING HE TO ADD I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD THING TO ADD. I WANT TO -- DEFUNDING OF POLICE. CITY DECIDED EVENT NOT ALLOW THE STATE GOVERNMENT TO GET IN OUR BUSINESS ANY MORE.

I MEAN WHAT IF, WHAT IF THEY COME UP AND SAY THAT'S A GOOD IDEA I THINK WE NEED TO DEFUND ALL POLICE DEPARTMENTS BY 50% AND THEY STEP IN AND START TELLING US

WHAT TO DO AGAIN. >> THAT'S WHY WE WERE PUTTING THAT IN THERE I'M JUST SAYING HERE WE ARE WE

OPPOSE THAT. >> GIVE ME THAT.

>> TRYING TO RUN THEM INTO THE GROUND.

THE OFFICE IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

HE WANTS TO PUT IN LEGISLATION THAT IF A CITY DEFUNDS THEIR POLICE THEN IT WILL AFFECT THEIR PROPERTY

TAXES. >> RIGHT.

S THE OPPOSITE IS WHAT THEY ARE ATTEMPTING TO DO.

IF WE PUT A STATEMENT IN WE OPPOSE ANY ATTEMPT TO DEFUND OUR POLICE WE'RE JUST MAKING A POLITICAL STATEMENT WHICH IS A GOOD POLITICAL STATEMENT.

>> OH, I AGREE TOTALLY. I JUST DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM ANY IDEAS. THEY ALREADY HAVE TOO MANY AS IT IS. BELIEVE ME THEY'RE GOING THE OPPOSITE WAY. THE ITEM WOULDN'T BE SUPPORTED BY THE GOVERNOR OR THE MAJORITY OF THE LEGISLATOR IN TEXAS. MAYBE THE CITY OF THE AUSTIN. BUT YOU DON'T SEE ANY OTHER CITIES MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION.

IS ALREADY THREATENED TO USE OTHER MEANS TO POLICE AUSTIN. SO, BUT, TO, TO THE MAYOR'S POINT AND TO MATT'S POINT, I THINK IT MAKES A GREAT

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ON IT. >> OH, I AGREE.

I JUT WANT TO GIVE THEM ANY IDEAS.

>> IT WON'T. >> THE ALL RIGHT.

CAN YOU PULL THE LIST DOWN STACEY.

>> I LIABLE THE LIST. I THINK THERE'S SOME IN THAT LIST THAT WE COULD MERGE AND I KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE PLACES WHERE YOU MENTIONED KIND OF MERGE TWO STATEMENTS TOGETHER ANYWAY. SO WE ARE DOING SOME WORD SMITHING. BUT I THINK I HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THE ITEMS I HAVE KIND OF FIRST I TOOK -- THEN PROBABLY YOU KNOW THE NUMBER WE WANT.

WE'LL USE THAT THEN WE'LL GET THAT BACK IN FRONT OF COUNCIL AT THE NEXT MEETING. SNUNCE WE GOT THAT AND COUNCIL SAYS YES IT TO WE'LL MAKE SOME APPOINTMENTS WITH OUR LEGISLATORS THAT -- SPEAKING OF LEGISLATORS, IS THERE ANYTHING NEW ANGIE IS SHE STILL?

>> SHE'S GOOD. >> AS FAR AS I KNOW SHE'S GOOD. YEAH.

OKAY. >> -- I DIDN'T LOOK TODAY.

THERE'S STILL SOME PROVISIONAL BALLOTS COMING IN. I THINK ANGIE WON BY 200 VOTES. THERE'S MILL TEMPORARY STUFF THAT CAN COME IN. NO ARE WE DONE WITH THREE -- CAN I SUGGEST THOUGH THAT WE DO THE WATER DISTRICT ONE AND I WOULD RATHER IF WE CAN'T FINISH IN TIME TO DO THAT LAST -- 3 E. DISCUSS RECENT SETTLEMENT

[3E. Discuss recent settlement agreement between the North Texas Municipal Water District (NTMWD) and its member cities and the potential impact to the City of Rowlett. (30 minutes) ]

CITY OF ROW THELET. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU, STACEY FOR PULLING IT UP.

>> SO, COUNCIL WE GOT A LOT TO TALK ABOUT.

WE'RE GOING TO FLY THROUGH THE EARLIER SLIDES.

THERE'S JUST SUCH A I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO US IN CASE WE NEED TO COVER SOME PREVIOUS GROUND. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND JUMP THROUGH IT. WE'LL GO BLOW THROUGH THE FIRST ROUGHLY 10 SLIDES PRETTY QUICK THEN GET TO UPDATING YOU GUYS ON THE LATEST AS WELL AS OUR CONSTITUENTS. NEXT SLIDE?

>> SO THIS IS THE JUST SOME HISTORY ABOUT THE DISTRICT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT 2019 THE WATER DISTRICT DELIVERED OVER 100 BILLION GALLONS OF WATER IN 2020 IT WAS 106 BILLION. 1.8 BILLION CUSTOMERS NOW.

JUST A HUGE AMOUNT OF WATER AND THAT THEY DELIVERED.

NEXT SLIDE. >> SO, THERE ARE BOTH -- CUSTOMER CITIES THE ANYBODY CITIES ACTUALLY HAVE REPRESENTATIVES ON THE BOARD.

SO, THERE ARE 13 MEMBER CITIES, 12 OF THEM HAVE TWO MEMBERS ON THE BOARD. THE SMALLEST ONE PRINCETON HAS ONE THAT SAYS 25 MEMBER BOARD.

CUSTOMER CITIES LIKE ROWLETT THERE'S A BUNCH OF US AS WELL THEY HAVE NO REPRESENTATION ON THE BOARD AND NO THE VOTES. NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS JUST A LIST. JUST A COMMENT YOU KNOW REALIZING THAT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING WAY BACK IN 1951 THERE WERE 10 CITIES THAT CREATED THE ORIGINAL DISTRICT. SINCE THAT TIME THREE MORE CITIES WERE ADDED WHICH WERE RICHARDSON, ALLEN AND FRISCO. THE WHOLE REASON I BRING THAT UP ONE CONVERSATION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GET TO AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE IS WHETHER OR NOT ROWLETT WOULD ALSO BECOME A MEMBER CITY. WHEN WE -- THEY HAD SAID THAT THE BOARD HAD MADE A CONSCIOUS DECISION NOT TO EVEN CONSIDER THAT UNTIL AFTER THE P.U.C. ACTION WAS

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NEXT SLIDE. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY. YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH EACH CITY ACTUALLY USES. THE SLIDE TO THE RIGHT IS THE MEMBER CITIES THE RED IS THE CUSTOMER CITIES.

RAWLET IS THE LARGEST CUSTOMER CITY.

ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT SINCE 2010, THE CUSTOMER CITIES ARE GROWING FASTER THAN THE MEMBER CITIES. SO WE, CUSTOMER CITIES IN 2010 WERE ABOUT 11.6% OF THE TOTAL NOW WE'RE AT 13.3.

THE OTHER FACT THAT I WANT TO MENTION IS THAT CUSTOMER CITIES PAID $45 MILLION -- NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS KIND OF WHAT THE ISSUE IS WITH THE PRNL U.C.

THIS IS AN IMPORTANT SLIDE. THIS SLIDE SHOWS ONLY THE CUSTOMER CITIES AT THIS POINT BUT, IT'S EXTREME VERY DIFFERENT THAN THAN LAST YEAR.

BUT YOU CAN SEE ON HOW MANY THOUSANDS OF GALLONS BILLIONS ESSENTIALLY THAT WAS PAID FOR THAT WAS NOT USED THAT WE PAID FOR THAT WE DID NOT SELL.

JUST LAST YEAR THAT NUMBER WAS NEARLY A BILLION GALLONS THAT'S STILL A HUMANE AMOUNT OF WATER IS THAT -- LAST YEAR IT WAS HALF THIS YEAR NOT QUITE HALF THE MEMBER CITY ALLOCATION IS VERY MUCH LIKE THIS YOU HAVE CITIES WITH RED AND CITIES WITH BLUE IT TOOK YEARS OF WORK FOR THE MEMBER CITIES TO -- SOME CUSTOMER CITIES LIKE ROWLETT MIGHT NOT WANT TO DO THAT UNLESS FORCED.

TO NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS ROW THELET'S OWN HISTORY IN THE LAST 19 YEARS WE PAID $21. MILLION FOR WATER THAT WE DID NOT SELL OR PROVIDE TO OUR OWN CUSTOMERS. AND YOU KNOW THAT RED BAR THAT JUST, THAT STEEP INCLINE THAT WAS ALSO WHEN THEY WERE INCREASING THE PRICE DOUBLE DIGIT INCREASES PRETTY MUCH EVERY YEAR. SO BEGINNING THAT HAD A HUGE IMPACT THE LAST TIME WE SET THE NEW BAR WAS IN 2006.

AND THAT'S WHEN WE WENT FROM 2.9 BILLION TO 3.2 BILLION.

NEXT SLIDE. SO, THERE WERE FOUR MEMBER CITIES, INCLUDING THAT HAD FILED THIS ACTION WITH THE P.U.C. WAY BACK WHEN. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON ALMOST FOUR YEARS SO, ROWLETT ADDED THE ITS VOICE TO THE PRNL U.C. FILING LAST YEAR AS WELL.

TO LET THE P.U.C. SNOW THAT IT WASN'T THIS WAS NOT JUST AN ISSUE OF INTEREST TO THE MEMBER CITIES BUT ALSO TO THE CUSTOMER CITIES AND WE EVEN HAD A LOCAL RESIDENT THAT CONDUCTED A PETITION AS WELL.

SO WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO SHOW THE P.U.C. IS THAT THIS ALSO HAS AN INTEREST TO THE PEOPLE WHO WERE PAYING THE ULTIMATE BILL WHICH ARE OUR CUSTOMERS.

NEXT SLIDE. ON FEBRUARY 27TH, WE HAD WHAT WE BELIEVED WAS A WIN. AND ESSENTIALLY THE P.U.C.

AT THAT TIME THEY, THEY VOTED THAT THE RATES WERE ADVERSE TO PUBLIC INTEREST AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAD BEEN TRYING TO SAY ALL ALONG AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHER MEMBER CITIES THAT FELT LYING THAT WE WERE PAYING

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MAYOR TAMMY AND THE MAYOR FROM PLANO -- MOST FOLKS AT THAT PRNL U.C. HEARING AND ESSENTIALLY MEETING LED US TO BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE COMING. NEXT SLIDE.

SO THERE WERE SOME MILESTONES THAT HAVE OCCURRED FROM MARCH TO OCTOBER.

SO ON APRIL 2ND. THE CITY OF ROWLETT ALONG -- THE P.U.C. OR MCKINNEY'S FILING TO TO HAVE US NOT BE A PARTY TO THE RECORD. APRIL 17TH.

THE P.U.C. HELD A HEARING TO ADDRESS THE PETITION AGAIN THIS WAS HEARING THAT WE BELIEVE WOULD FINALIZE THE ORDER TO FORCE THE WATER DISTRICT TO CONDUCT THE REVIEW AND TO DELIBERATE ON THE ADDITIONAL PETITION THAT'S HAD BEEN FILED. INSTEAD THOUGH, THE P.U.C.

ORDERED THE PARTIES TO HIRE INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY AND GO BACK TO THE MEDIATION. SO THIS WAS KIND OF A PUNCH IN THE GUT AFTER WE WERE PRETTY COMFORTABLE THAT THE P.U.C. WAS GOING SIDE WITH -- ON PROPOSAL 27TH WE NOTIFIED THE TEAM, EXCUSE ME THE DISTRICT AND MEMBERS -- WE DID THAT SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE COURSE OF THE SUMMER I WILL TELL YOU THAT ROWLETT WAS NEVER INCLUDED IN THE MEDIATION NEGOTIATIONS, AND SO, WE HAD NO INFLUENCE OVER THE ULTIMATE SOLUTION AND WAS NOT INCLUDED WHICH IS A REAL ISSUE FOR US.

NEXT SLIDE. SO THE FAST FORWARD TO OCTOBER 29TH THE MEMBER CITIES THE 13 MEMBER CITIES ANNOUNCED THEY AGREED TO A SETTLEMENT.

THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE HAVE CONCERNS WITH AGAIN, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THERE'S A FIVE CENT NICKEL PREMIUM THAT WE PAY THAT CUSTOMERS CITY PAY THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS WITH THAT BUT ESSENTIALLY THIS P.U. KRURNG HEARING WAS ABOUT THE PAY ARRANGEMENT WHAT THEY ENDED UP DOING IN THE SETTLEMENT A COUPLE DAYS THEY FILED A MOTING TO DISMISS THE ORIGINAL P.U.C. PETITION.

NATURAL DRAWTOWN PERIOD -- DRAWDOWN PERIOD THE GOAL DURING THAT PETITION IS THAT IT WOULD SHIFT WATER PURCHASED BY THE CITIES THAT ARE NO LONGER TO THOSE CITIES THAT ARE FASTER GROWING AND USING THEIR EXCEEDING THEIR CAP. THAT WOULD TAKE TIME OVER EIGHT YEARS. THEN AT THE END OF THAT PERIOD. THEN THEY WILL START IMPLEMENTING A FIVE YEAR ROLLING AVERAGE.

SO THE FIVE YEAR ROLLING AVERAGE WE LIKE THAT A LOT BECAUSE THAT WOULD REMOVE CERTAIN THAT COULD PENALIZE THE CITY. YOU CAN HAVE A BAD DROUGHT YEAR THAT'S NOT REPEATED IN ANOTHER TIME OR YOU COULD HAVE A MAJOR WATER DISRUPTION FOR SOME REASON OR ANOTHER AND IT CAUSES ONE CITY IT MAY CAUSE A CITY TO EXCEED AND THEN NEVER HAVE THAT HAPPEN AGAIN.

REALLY EVEN BIGGER THAN THAT.

IS THAT RIGHT AFTER THIS HAPPENED THE P.U.C. MADE THIS FILING THE DISTRICT THEN ADAPTED AND ALMOST

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SO THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT CUSTOMER CITIES LIKE ROWLETT DO NOT HAVE ASSURANCE THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE OR REASONABLE ASSURANCE THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN.

NEXT SLIDE. AGAIN, THE ULTIMATE SOLUTION FIVE YEAR ROLLING AVERAGE. TO ROWLETT -- A FIVE YEAR ROLLING AVERAGE WE THINK IT'S PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL DRAWDOWN PERIOD WOULD WORK. -- NEXT SLIDE.

THEN THERE WAS SOME OTHER KEY TERMS I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE WE WERE CONCERNED ALSO ABOUT ITEM NUMBER TWO -- NOT APARTY TO THE AGREEMENT WE JUST TALK ABOUT THEIR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.

ONE MORE THING STACEY I'M SO SORRY GO BACK REIMBURSE THE CITIES $6.6 MILLION FOR THEIR LEGAL FEES DURING THIS FIGHT I WOULD HOPE OR THAT THEY'RE NOT USING REVENUES THAT THEY HAVE AGAIN THE RAID IN CUSTOMER CITIES TO HELP PAY FOR THAT. NEXT SLIDE.

FILE A MOTION TO OBJECT TO THE MOTION.

AGAIN WHAT WE ARE SEEK IS ASSURANCE THAT CUSTOMER CITIES WOULD BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE AS WELL.

AGAIN, WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT VERBALLY.

WE HAVE SEEN IN I THINK IT WAS IN A PRESS RELEASE BUT AT THIS POINT WE DON'T KNOW THAT.

WE DO NOT KNOW HOW THIS WILL IMPACT CUSTOMER CITIES OR WHETHER CUSTOMER CITIES WOULD ACTUALLY BE INCLUDED OR NOT. OUR BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT UNTIL WE KNOW THAT AND UNTIL WE HAVE THIS PERMANENT SOLUTION AT SOME TIME OUR CITIZENS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PAY RATES THAT THE P.U.C. HAS IDENTIFIED IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST. NEXT SLIDE.

CURRENT STATUS. SO, WE'VE HAD A CONVERSATION NOW WITH THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT. HE INDICATED TO ME YESTERDAY THAT HE PLANS TO SUBMIT A RESOLUTION TO THE DISTRICT BOARD THAT WOULD ALLOW CUSTOMER CITIES TO PARTICIPATE AT THEIR REQUEST. BUT THEY DID ALSO CONSIDER THEY MAY HAVE THE ABILITY FOR THOSE CITIES THAT WANT TO PARTICIPATE NOW TO BE ABLE TO AMEND THEIR AGREEMENT AND PARTICIPATE. THOSE THAT DO NOT WANT TO AT THIS TIME BE FORCED INTO IT WHEN THEIR PARTICULAR AGREEMENT COMES UP. LIKE ROWLETT OUR CURRENT AGREEMENT COMES UP IN 2024 WHERE WE WILL START A NEW 30 YEAR AGREEMENT. BUT SOME CITIES LIKE FAIRVIEW THEY ONLY DID THEIR LAST YEAR THEY'RE NOW ONE YEAR INTO A 30 YEAR AGREEMENT.

SO THERE MAY BE A PUSH TO GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE AT SOME POINT. BUT WHAT WE'RE PUSHING FOR IS THAT -- THOSE CUSTOMER CITIES COULD.

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BUT ALSO OBJECTING TO THE MOTION TO DISMISS.

I THINK THAT WAS MY LAST SLIDE.

STACEY IF YOU WILL JUST CHECK FOR ME IT IS.

THANK YOU. >> SO AT THIS POINT THEN PRIMARILY OUR MISSION TONIGHT WAS TO LET COUNCIL KNOW WHAT THE STATUS IS. AND LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT WE HAVE FILED THAT MOTION TO LET OUR PUBLIC UNDERSTAND WHY AND REALLY WHAT OUR INTERESTS ARE HERE.

>> THANK YOU, BRIAN THAT WAS A VERY GOOD SYNOPSIS TO A VERY COMPLICATED ISSUE. YOU KNOW WE ARE HAVE TRIED GET THE INFORMATION OUT IN A PRESS RELEASE AND SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS AND IT WILL BE IN THE FRIDAY AT 5:00 TOMORROW AND OBVIOUSLY WE WANTED TO PUT THIS ON THE WORK SESSION AGENDA SO OUR PUBLIC COULD HEAR IT VERBALLY WHAT'S GOING ON. SO COUNCIL COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? MAR.

THAT YOU'RE COMMUTE -- MARTHA.

YOU'RE MUTED. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE YOUR AND BRIAN'S LEADING THE CHARGE ON THIS. I APPRECIATE BRIAN VERY MUCH FOR JUST EXPRESSING THE INTEREST OF OUR CITIZENS AS WELL FROM A PRIVATE CITIZEN PERSPECTIVE.

BUT, ALL OF THIS MOVEMENT THAT WE HAVE SEEN OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS IS REALLY THE RESULT OF YOUR EFFORTS.

AND SO, I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BECAUSE IN THE YEARS PRIOR TO THE LAST FOUR YEARS WHEN THAT LAWSUIT WAS FILED WE JUST WE HAVE NO VOICE AT ALL. TAUL TOOK UP THE CAUSE AND THE CHARGE OF OUR COMMUNITY TO INSIST ON FAIRNESS.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING TO LAND.

BUT I KNOW THIS. YOU GUYS HAVE PUT HEART AND SOUL INTO IT AND I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE

IT. >> I GOT TO TELL YOU WE'RE USING EVERY AVENUE WE CAN TO KEEP UP THIS FIGHT.

-- KUDOS AND KEEP IT UP. BECAUSE I THINK YOU GUYS WERE IN IT. LET'S STAY IN IT.

>> YEAH, -- WE'RE TRYING TO BE AS YOU KNOW DIPLOMATIC AND FAIR AS WE CAN TO ALL PARTIES INVOLVED.

BUT WE GOT TO FIGHT FOR OUR RESIDENTS RIGHTS SO WE GOT TO FIGHT FOR WHAT'S RIGHT AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE BRIAN.

OBVIOUSLY AS THINGS EVOLVE WE'LL LET EVERYBODY KNOW.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO 3-D DISCUSS OPTIONS AND

[3D. Discuss options and timeline for moving to in person or hybrid (in person and virtual combination) public meetings including City Council and Boards and Commission meetings. (10 minutes) ]

>> I THINK IT'S ANGIE. DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION

ANGIE. >> IS THAT DEPUTY SITTING

MANAGER ANGIE SMITH? >> I WAS HOPING.

>> DO WE NEED TO CALL YOU ANGELA NOW.

>>. >> NO, NO I'M ABOUT TO GET EMBARRASSED. LUCKILY MY DOOR TAG TODAY SAYS ANGIE SO I'M SUPER HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

MY PERSONAL PERSON WHO CALLS ME ANGELA IS MY MAMA WHEN I'M IN TROUBLE. STILL TO THIS DAY.

TONIGHT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE OCTOBER MEETING WAS LEADING THE ASK US ABOUT MOVING FROM VIRTUAL TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS ON THE AGENDA AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH. SO, WHAT WE WILL DO IN THE FIRST MEETING OF EACH MONTH IS JUST CARVE OUT A SHORT 10 MINUTES FOR COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS IF THEY ARE READY TO MOVE TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS YET.

WE ARE STILL EXPLORING A HYBRID OPTION DREW HAS

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THIS IS REALLY AN OPEN ITEM FOR COUNCIL TO DISCUSS IF YOU GUYS ARE READY TO MOVE BACK TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO REMAIN VIRTUAL FOR AN ADDITIONAL MONTH THEN WE I HAVE THE ON THE AGENDA AGAIN THE FIRST MEETING IN DECEMBER TO DISCUSS.

ANGIE BRIAN DO YOU ALL KNOW WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING HAVE YOU DONE ANY KIND OF ANALYSIS NOT AN EXTENSIVE ANALYSIS WE DO KNOW WHAT SOME CITIES ARE DOING THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE HAVING PHYSICAL MEETINGS AGAIN THERE ARE OTHERS THAT ARE USING SOME SORT OF A HYBRID YOU KNOW IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS. BUT THE ONE THING THAT I DO WANT TO KIND OF POINT OUT IS YOU KNOW AS THEY THE NUMBER OF CASES DROPPED OFF AT THE END OF THE SUMMER AND INTO THE EARLY PART OF THE FALL YOU KNOW WE WERE SEEING NUMBERS AS LOW AS 150 AGAIN 175.

AND SO WE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNCIL ABOUT OUR REOPENING STRATEGY.

WE MADE SOME MOVEMENT TOWARDS THAT.

BUT WE KNOW THAT THE NUMBER OF NEW CASES WE HAVE SEEN NUMBERS STARTING TO GET BACK UP TO THAT 800, 700 RANGE AND INCLUDING ONE DAY THAT IT WAS JUST EXTRAORDINARY NOW ALTHOUGH SOME OF THAT COULD HAVE BEEN BACKLOGGED.

TODAY DROPPED TO 267 AGAIN PROBABLY SOME LAB THAT DIDN'T GET THEIR STUFF IN. I'M EXPECTING BIGGER NUMBERS AGAIN. BUT, BUT I THINK THAT YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT OUT OF THE WOODS YET.

UNTIL THERE'S A VACCINE THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME RISK ELEMENT. BUT IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO AT WHAT POINT ARE WE COMFORTABLE TO MAKE THAT PUSH. I DO KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE FEEL VERY STRONG ABOUT IT AND OTHERS ARE YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW IT'S VERY MUCH A SAFETY ISSUE.

SO ANGIE, DO YOU KNOW SPECIFICALLY I THINK ROCKWALL SPECIFICALLY IS MEETING IN PERSON.

I KNOW FORT WORTH IS. ANYBODY ELSE YOU COULD THINK

OF JUST OFF HAND. >> I'M ALMOST POSITIVE GARLAND IS MEETING IN PERSON AND MESQUITE.

IT FROM CO-IS DOING AET BIT OF HYBRID THAT'S WHO JOEY ANDREW MET WITH TO GET KIND OF THE LAY OF THE LAND ON THAT SO SOME ARE IN PERSON SOME ARE STILL HYBRID.

SO I KNOW MESQUITE IS MEETING BUT CITIZENS ARE STILL DOING ON-LINE COMMENTING.

SO THE COUNCIL THE MEETS IN PERSON BUT THEY ARE LIMITING HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN BE IN THE CHAMBERS AND FORCING SOCIAL DISTANCING AND COMMENTS AND -- MASKS.

WHEN YOU SAY HIDE BRID HYBRID BECAUSE OF -- HYBRID BECAUSE OF AUDIENCE MEMBERS OR HYBRID AMONGST THE COUNCIL AND THE CITY STAFF? I BELIEVE IT CAN BE -- PART OF THE REASON WE'RE USING THAT TERMINOLOGY MAYOR THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE SO PART OF THAT HYBRID IS TECHNOLOGY AVAILABLE FOR THEM TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL SUCH AS A DEVELOPER AND DO THAT, DO THAT FROM THE SAFETY OF THEIR HOME OR OFFICE RATHER THAN COME IN PERSONALLY AND DO IT.

THE OTHER THING IS YOU KNOW WE HAVE PRETTY SMALL SPACE IN OUR COUNCIL CHAMBERS. ONCE WE TRIED TO CALCULATE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO KNIT THERE AND STILL SAFELY DISTANCE IT'S A VERY LIMITED NUMBER.

THAT MEANS IF YOU HAD A CROWD OF PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO SPEAK ON SOME ITEM YOU REALLY HAVE TO PUSH THEM OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING EVEN TO HAVE ENOUGH SOCIAL DISTANCING SPACE. BUT MAINLY, MAYOR IT HAS TO BE WITH THE TECHNOLOGY. I JUST TRY TO UNDERSTAND IF WE HAVE A HYBRID METHOD AND ALL COVE COUNCIL IS THERE WE STILL HAVE THE ABILITY FOR APPLICANT TO DO IT VIRTUALLY AND CITIZEN COMMENTS TO BE VIRTUALLY THAT'S WHAT I'M

TRYING TO UNDERSTAND? >> THAT'S THE HYBRID PART OF

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IT MAYOR. >> OKAY.

>> ALL RIGHT. YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP NEXT.

>> YEAH, SO I JUST WANTED TO GET CLEAR IN MY MIND WHEN THE TECHNOLOGY WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR US TO DO THAT EFFICIENTLY. DID YOU SEE DECEMBER ANGRY?

>> THEY SHOULD HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO THEN WE WILL DO EXTENSIVE TESTING ON OUR END. IF YOU REMEMBER THE VERY FIRST VIRTUAL MEETING WE DID WAS A LITTLE CHAOTIC.

WE WILL DO A TON OF RESEARCH ON OUR END TO MAKE SURE WE CAN HANDLE IT VERY SMOOTHLY TO BE ABLE TO GO FORWARD.

YOU KNOW IT WOULD BE HYBRID IN THAT IF THERE WAS COUNCILMEMBER THEY CAN BE HYBRID AS WELL THAT'S WHAT JOEY AND DREW WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH SO THAT WE COULD ACCOMMODATE EVERYONE'S NEEDS.

>> OKAY. >> WHAT ABOUT MORE ONCE DREW HAS THAT WHICH I WOULD ASSUME HE HAS ANY DAY HE AND JOEY CAN GET IN THERE AND HAVE A PRETEND MEETING WITH THE SLIDES AND PRESENTATIONS AND CUSTOMERS AND THE WHOLE NINE YARDS. SO I SUSPECT THAT IS COMING VERY QUICKLY. HE WAS JUST WAITING ON THE MATERIALS TO GET THERE. GO AHEAD.

>> THANK YOU. >> MATT.

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK DO YOU KNOW IF GARLAND

I.S.D. IS MEETING IN PERSON? >> THEY ARE.

I HAVE TRYING TO LOOK AT PLANO'S AND IT LOOKS LIKE

PLANO. >> PLANO JUST WENT BACK A

MONTH AGO. >> ARE THEY USING

PARTITIONS. >> THEY'RE USING PARTITIONS

IN PLANO. >> IN BETWEEN.

>> IN BETWEEN. PLEXIGLASS.

>> THEY HAVE A BIGGER COUNCIL CHAMBER THAN WE DO.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

OUR FACILITY IS SO SMALL THAT IT REALLY IS

RESTRICTIVE. >> ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS WORRIED ABOUT UGDS PARTITIONS IS -- ABOUT USING PARTITIONS I DIDN'T REALLY WANT THIS IMPRESSION THAT WE WERE KEEPING COUNCIL SAFE BY PARTITIONING US OFF FROM EACH OTHER BUT NOT HAVING PAR ITIESES IN THE AUDIENCE I THOUGHT -- PARTITIONS IN THE AUDIENCE.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS A REALLY BAD MESSAGE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. BUT IT'S HARD FOR US TO SOCIAL DISTANCE IN THE AUDIENCE NO MORE THAN 15 PEOPLE. 12.

>> SO, THAT WAS THE ONLY CONCERN HE ABOUT BUYING PLEXIGLASS PAR DECISIONS IS YOU KNOW NOT -- PARTITIONS IS NOT NECESSARILY GOOD OPTICS TO PROTECT COUNCIL

AND NOT PROTECT THE AUDIENCE. >> WELL, I THINK MAYOR, I THINK WE'RE PROTECTING THE AUDIENCE BY LIMITING THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT CAN COME IN.

YEAH. >> SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE THE PARTITIES BECAUSE AGAIN IN OUR SETUP, WITH THE DYESS, IF WE SO WE DON'T USE PARTITIONS THEN HAVE STAFF SET UP IN THE FRONT OF IT.

BUT THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN DO IT WITHOUT PARTITIONS IS

HAVE YOU BE SPREAD OUT. >> AND YOU KNOW, IN A FIVE HOUR MEETING IN AN ENCLOSED ENVIRONMENT WITHOUT MASKS ON SIX FEET APART WITHOUT PARTITIONS I THINK IS A DANGEROUS SITUATION POTENTIALLY.

EVEN IF YOU ARE SIX FEET APART YOU ARE IN THAT ROOM HOURS, HOURS, HOURS. YOU'RE NOT OUTDOORS.

BROWNIE. >> YEAH, I JUST JUST A QUICK POINT I THINK YOU ALMOST MADE IT.

I THINK THE PLEXIGLASS PARTITIONS ARE THERE WHEN YOU CAN'T BE SIX FEET APART. IN OTHER WORDS YOU CAN GO UP TO A WINDOW AT CITY HALL YOU KNOW TO SIGN SOMETHING YOU CAN'T BE SIX FEET APART FROM THE LADIES BEHIND IT.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE PARTITIONS ARE FOR YOU WHEN CAN'T STAY SIX FEET. WE WOULD BE PARTITION SIDE TO SIDE BECAUSE WE CAN'T BE SIX FEET APART UNLESS THERE'S ONLY THREE OF US AT THE DESK.

BUT EVERYBODY ELSE WOULD BE SIX FEET APART.

I'M SAYING I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.

WHEN YOU'RE IN A ROOM THAT LONG WITHOUT MASKS ON WHETHER YOU'RE FIVE FEET APART OR FOUR FEET APART OR SIX FEET APART THAT AIR IS NOT CIRCULATING.

YOU'RE IN THAT ROOM FOR THAT LONG A PERIOD OF TIME.

>> ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT BREATHING A LOT BY THAT

POINT? >> I'M SAYING WE'RE BREATHING TOO MUCH. IT'S ONE THING TO STAND SIX FEET APART FROM SOMEONE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME IT'S WHOLE OTHER ONE TO SIT IN A ROOM FOR HOURS AND HOURS.

BUT THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION.

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>> BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS WHOLE STUPID COVID-19 IS UNDERSTOOD AND KNOWN BY EVERYBODY, RIGHT? WITH THAT SAID, THANK YOU,

WHITNEY. >> WE --

>> I WILL GO BACK TO THE POINT UNTIL WE HAVE A HYBRID METHOD IF THERE IS ONE COUNCIL PERSON THAT IS NOT COMFORTABLE IN THAT ROOM WE HAVE TO STAY VIRTUAL UNTIL WE HAVE A HYBRID SOLUTION. WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, EXCLUDE A COUNCIL PERSON THAT'S TRYING TO PROTECT THEIR

HEALTH, IN MY OPINION. >> I AGREE WITH THAT.

I THINK WE SHOULD WAIT TO DISCUSS THE HYBRID THING

BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION. >> ED IS NOT ON THIS CALL.

BUT ED TOLD US LAST NIGHT THERE'S A STRONG POSSIBILITY OF A LARGE SURGE OF NEW CASES TOWARD THE END OF THIS MONTH. THAT THEY'RE PREPARING FOR THAT NOW. IT COULD BE WORSE THAN THE MAY OR JUNE DEAL. I AGREE WITH BROWNIE MAYBE A WAIT AND SEE APPROACH IS BETTER RIGHT NOW.

AT LEAST UNTIL DECEMBER. WE SEE HOW THE BLENDED APPROACH IS GOING TO WORK THAT DREW IS WORKING ON.

>> YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT, WHITNEY.

WITH THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU JUST SHARED WITH US, I THINK THAT'S THE PRUDENT APPROACH.

ALTHOUGH, I DO THINK THAT IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR, FOR DREW TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH CREATING THE TECHNOLOGY FOR WHEN WE CAN PULL THE TRIGGER ON THIS SO THAT IT WOULD BE TESTED AND WILL BE READY TO GO IT WITH.

AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW WHEN THERE'S GOING TO BE A VACCINE BUT HOPEFULLY IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. THEY'LL START DISTRIBUTING SOME, I'M HOPEFUL WITH THAT SO I THINK WAIT AND SEE IS A GOOD APPROACH BUT GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH

PREPARATIONS. >> I LOVE YOU ALL BUT I'M

GOING TO STAY AT HOME. >> SO YOU WOULD LIKE TO US

WAIT. >> IS, PLEASE.

>> YEARS, JUST WAIT. >> YES, PLEASE.

JUST WAIT. >> I MADE THAT SHORT AND

SWEET. >> THIS HIT ME HARD ANOTHER DAY. I WAS IN A BOARD AND COMMISSION MEETING ONE OF THE PARTICIPANTS YOU KNOW TAKES CARE OF THEIR ELDERLY PARENTS THAT ARE IN THEIR 80S OR 90S. THAT BOARD MEMBER JUST SAID I CAN'T PARTICIPATE IN AN IN-PERSON MEETING.

I'M PROTECTING MY ELDERLY PARENTS.

WE CAN'T DISENFRANCHISE THOSE PEOPLE WHEN WE HAVE THIS ALTERNATIVE. I THINK IMPORTANT THAT COUNCIL GETS IN-PERSON FOR ALL THOSE REASONS WE DISCUSSED. AND YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN GET MOST OF US IN A ROOM TOGETHER AND HAVE AN OPTION FOR A HYBRID METHOD FOR THOSE THAT CAN'T AND DON'T WANT TO FOR THEIR OWN GOOD PERSONAL REASONS, I THINK THAT'S GOOD. BUT I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO DISENFRANCHISE BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS THAT ARE VOLUNTEERS AND DOING GREAT WORK FOR THIS CITY WHEN WE HAVE THE VIRTUAL METHOD FOR THEM RIGHT NOW ALSO.

>> I SURE AGREE WITH THAT TAMMY.

AS SOME OF Y'ALL KNOW, I HAVE A MOTHER-IN-LAW WHO LIVES WITH US SHE WILL BE 91 TOMORROW.

SHE'S HEALTHY AND WE WANT TO KEEP HER THAT WAY.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I SAY LET'S WORK ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION BUT FOR THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ABSOLUTELY.

LOOK WE DON'T WANT TO OVERBURDEN OR EXPOSE OUR

VOLUNTEERS TO RISK. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

I THINK WE ARE DONE SIX MINUTES EARLY WE WILL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK SO THAT WE CAN START ON TIME.

BEFORE I DO THAT ANYTHING WANT ANYTHING PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA OR DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA?

>> ALL RIG

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