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[2. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

[3A. Discuss Phase II of the Facilities Needs Assessment. (105 minutes)]

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THOSE FIFTH TAKING ALL THREE BUILDINGS AT THE CAMPUS NOW PLUS

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COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SQUARE FOOTAGE TO

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GET TO THAT 27,000 NUMBER. AND THEN MANY TO THE RIGHT, YOU SEE JUST KIND OF THE RESULTANT OF WHERE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FALLS SHORT FROM WHAT WE SEE AS NEEDED FOR YOUR ULTIMATE BUILDOUT PURPOSES. AND SO THIS WAS JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHERE THINGS WILL BE NEEDING THE SPACE FOR YOUR ULTIMATE NUMBERS. AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE IS JUST ALSO RECAP OF WHERE WE'LL LEAVE YOU LATER ON IN THIS PRESENTATION IS THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE NIP CAMPUS AND WHAT WOULD BE LOCATED AT THE MUNICIPAL CAMPUS AND OF COURSE PRIORITY AND TIMING OF THOSE. THIS WAS JUST TO SHOW YOU THE ARE ACCUMULATION OF THE SPACE AS IT MIGHT BE ACQUIRED AT THAT FACILITY. SO THIS -- YOU MAY RECALL SEEING THIS AS THE OPTION TO THE FAR RIGHT IS BASICALLY PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY WHICH WOULD INCLUDE POLICE HOLDING POLICE ASSETS, COURTS AND FIRE ADMIN WITH EOC AND THEN CITY HALL AS WELL.

WHAT THIS CHART DID NOT INCLUDE WAS LIBRARY COMPONENT WHICH YOU'LL SEE THIS EVENING AS PART OF OUR OPTIONS FOR CONCEPTUAL INCLUSION. AND MAUREEN WILL KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME FOR LIBRARY AND THEN SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT YOU WERE LOOKING TO SEE FROM US SO I THINK IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDN OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH THAT.

>> THANK YOU GINA, THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

WE'RE EXCITED TO SHARE WITH YOU THE UPDATES FOR THE LIBRARY.

THIS FIRST SLIDE IS A RECAP OF WHAT WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME ABOUT THE POPULATION OF ROWLETT, THE AVERAGE SQUARE FOOTAGE PER

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CAPITA OF COMMUNITIES OF YOUR SIZE, AND THEN THE THREE LAYERS OF STANDARDS THAT THE TEXAS LIBRARY ASSOCIATION RECOGNIZES.

FROM STANDARD TO ENHANCED TO ARE AND THE PROGRAM WE SHARED WHERE YOU THE LAST TIME LOOKED AT A BUILDOUT SQUARE FOOTAGE NUMBER THAT WAS JUST UNDER THE EXEMPLARY LEVEL.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THEN JUST AS A REMINDER LIKE THE OTHER CITY FACILITIES WE DID LOOK AT BENCHMARKING WITH GRAY BARS SHOW THE CURRENT CONDITIONS OF SQUARE FOOTAGE PER CAPITA.

THE BLUE ON TOP OF ALLEN RICHARDSON AND ROUND ROCK INDICATE CITIES THAT HAVE LIBRARIES IN THE PLANNING PROCESS OR BONDS PASSED TO EXTEND THEIR EXISTING FACILITIES. AND THEN IT SHOWS THE NEARLY EXEMPLARY LEVEL LIBRARY SERVICES FROM THE LAST TIME WOULD BRING ROWLETT AT BUILDOUT EVEN EXCEEDING THE BENCHMARK THAT

FALLS SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE. >> MAUREEN I THINK YOUR VOICE HAS REALLY DROPPED. I'M SORRY BUT IF YOU'LL MAKE

SURE TO SPEAK A LITTLE LOUDER. >> THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME KNOW. IS THAT BETTER?

>> PERFECT, THANK YOU. >> SORRY, I REALIZE THAT MY MICROPHONE WAS MAYBE DOWN TOO FAR.

WAS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT ME TO GO BACK TO AND REPEAT?

>> I THINK WE'RE OKAY. >> OKAY.I THINK WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE THEN. SO THIS IS THE LIBRARY'S BASE SUMMARY THAT IN THE GREEN BAR WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME, THIS IS THE 90,000 FAIR FOOT EXEMPLARY PROGRAMMING.

SO BASED ON THE COMMENTS OF THE COUNCIL LAST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER WE WENT BACK AND REDUCED TO STANDARDS THAT MEET THE CURRENT POPULATION. ALL OF THIS, I WANT TO EMPHASIE WAS DONE WITHOUT THE LIBRARY STAFF'S INPUT SO WHILE WE'VE ASSIGNED SOME SPECIFIC LINE ITEMS FOR FOR EXAMPLE COLLECTIONS AND STUDY ROOMS, THE LIBRARY NOW AT THE TIME THIS IS ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED MAY HAVE SOME DIFFERENT PRIORITIES.

BUT THIS DOES REPRESENT THAT WP WE THINK WE CAN OFFSET WHAT THE LIBRARY NEEDS TO BE COMPETITIVE AND OFFER THE LIBRARY SERVICES FOR THE COMMUNITIES CAN AT ABOUT 45,000 SQUARE FEET.

SO THIS IS PHASE 1 OF ABOUT HALF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WE

DISCUSSED THE LAST TIME. >> I JUST WANT TO PAUSE FOR A MINUTE AND SAY SOMETHING JUST TO KIND OF SET THE STAGE HERE.

AFTER THE LAST PRESENTATION, AND THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY JUST LIBRARY-SPECIFIC, THERE ARE MANY IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT THOUGHT WE WERE MAKING A DECISION ON A LIBRARY.

AND THAT THE DECISION THAT WAS DONE AS A RESULT OF THAT LAST MEETING. AND EVEN TO THE EXTENT OF SEVERAL PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT TO ASK FOR MONEY TO FUND THAT SIZE OF A LIBRARY.

SO IT'S JUST KIND OF INTERESTING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNEW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PROJECTIONS INTO THE FUTURE AND IT WAS YOUR FIRST PRESENTATION OF A NEEDS ASSESSMENT FOR NOT ONLY THE LIBRARY BUT ALL THE FACILITIES IN THE CITY OF ROWLETT AND THAT BECAME A NARRATIVE OF THIS IS WHAT WE'VE DECIDED AND THIS IS HOW WE WANT TO FINANCE IT. SO WE JUST ALL NEED TO MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE TO STATE THAT THIS ON WHAT WE NEED AND WHAT OUR FUTURE NEEDS ARE AND NO DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE.

AND WE WILL ABSOLUTELY INCLUDE THE CIAB, THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT ADVISORY BOARD AND PUBLIC MEETINGS IN ALL THIS DECISION-MAKING. SO I JUST WANTED TO PAUSE THERE

AND SAY THAT. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND I THINK THAT'S IT, ABSOLUTELY RIGHT FROM ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE AS WELL OF INVOLVING THE COMMUNITY AND STAFF AND WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE FOR EACH OF THESE PHASES AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN GETTING MORE DETAILS AND MORE RELEVANT INFORMATION FOR LIBRARY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AND I'M SURE GINA AND DUANE FOR THE OTHER

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BUILDINGS AS WELL. >> CORRECT.

>> I THINK WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO THIS SHOWS THE BENCHMARKING WITH THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AS 45,000 SQUARE FEET. SO IT DOES TAKE ROWLETT TO ABOUT .45 SQUARE FEET PER CAPITA, WHICH IT'S CLOSE TO LEWISVILLE AND A LITTLE OVER WHAT ROUND ROCK HAS NOW BUT NOT WHAT THEY HAVE PLANNED. SO IT IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE THAT HELPS PROVIDE THE LIBRARY SPACE REQUIRED FOR THE SERVICES.

THAT THIS ARE THEY ARE PROVIDINE COMMUNITY.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE LOOKED AT ON A REDUCED PREFUNCTION LOBBY SPACE BY 67%, WE REDUCED THE SEATING STANDARDS FROM FIVE SEATS PER THOUSAND TO THREE, AND WE USED TODAY'S POPULATION INSTEAD OF A BUILDOUT POPULATION. WE REDUCED THE PHYSICAL CORRECTION TO THE ENHANCED LEVEL AND USED TODAY'S POPULATION.

SO PERHAPS BY THE TIME THIS LIBRARY IS DESIGNED AND BUILT, THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL PIECES OF THE COLLECTION THAT COULD BE DIGITAL. WE'VE REDUCED THE STUDY ROOMS, COMPUTER LAB AND MEDIA LAB FOR FUTURE PHASE, REDUCE THE TECHNOLOGY AND TAKE ABOUT 5% OUT OF THE STAFF WORK AREA AND NONASSIGNABLE SPACE. JUST TO MAYBE CIRCLE BACK ON THE LOBBY AND SOME OF THE MEETING SPACES AND CLASSROOM SPACES WHEN GINA AND JO ARE ANN START TO TALK ABOUT THE CONCEPTS, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY TO CREATE A SHARED CONFERENCING CENTER, LIBRARY AND CITY HALL TO TIME USE, SOME OF THE SPACES AS SHARED SPACES. OKAY NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

JUST A SUMMARY, INCREASE THE LIBRARY AT CURRENTLY AT 12,000 SQUARE FEET. THE 45,000 SQUARE FOOT PROGRAM IS NEARLY FOUR TIMES THE CURRENT SPACE.

IT'S A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN SERVICES AND COLLECTION OF STAFFING SPACE. AS THE DESIGN MOVES FORWARD, LOOKING AT A SITE THAT ALLOWS THE DESIGNERS TO LOOK AT IT WITH EXPANSION IN MIND. SO IF AND WHEN YOU DECIDE TO DO A PHASE 2 TO EXPAND IT WHEN YOU GET TO BUILDOUT YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THAT AS EASILY AS EXPECTED, THEY TALKED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR THE SHARED CONFERENCE AND MEETING SPACE AND OF COURSE AT HALF THE SIZE. IT IS A LOWER FIRST COST FOR PHASE 1 THAN A FULL BUILDOUT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT THE LIBRARY DEVELOPMENT AND THE PHASING?

OKAY GINA, I THINK BACK TO YOU. >> OKAY.

THIS IS DUANE, AND I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN CONCEPTS JIBLGHT. JUST A LITTLE BIT.

I THINK Y'ALL WILL HAVE POTENTIALLY SEEN THESE BEFORE THIS EVENING, MAYBE GOT THOSE TODAY.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO WHEN WE LOOK AT A SIDE IS WE LOOK AT ALL THE VARIABLES OF THE SITE AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT THESE HAVE A LOT OF VARIABLES. A LOT OF THEM ARE UNDERGROUND, SOME ARE OVERHEAD BUT WE WILL GO THROUGH YOU WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BASICALLY THE UTILITIES ON THE SITE IS ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD NEWS. WE HAVE A WATER LINE, AN EIGHT INCH WATER LINE IN GEORGE BUSH AND WE ALSO HAVE A SIX INCH WATER LINE IN MILLER I HEIGHTS DRIVE.

HEIGHTS DRIVE.

ONE THING TOO TO NOTE IS WE HAVE NOTED A GUARDRAIL ALONG GEORGE BUSH, THERE IS ACTUALLY A GUARDRAIL THAT GOES ALONG WHERE THE CREEK IS. TO PROTECTING PEOPLE FROM OBVIOUSLY DRIVING INTO A LOWER AREA OFF THE ROADWAY.

SO THAT KIND OF PUSHES YOUR ENTRANCE A LITTLE BIT FURTHERS DOWN, YOU SEE WHERE THE RED ARROW IS.

THAT'S A FACTOR IN KIND OF LOOKING AT HOW WE ACCESS THE SITE. THE FRONT PART OF THE SITE OR THE WEST PART OF THE SITE IS ZONED COMMERCIAL.

YOU CAN SEE THE WHITE HATCHED LINE ON THAT AREA.

THAT IS MEANINGFUL TO US WHEN WE START LOOKING AT SOME OF THE

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OPTIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE.

THERE IS AN UNDERGROUND GAS LINE THAT GOES TO A KIND OF A RELIEF STATION THERE, THE GAS ALONG MILLER HEIGHTS DRIVE, AND WE'RE KIND OF GUESSING AT THE ALIGNMENT NOW AS IT CONTINUES ON. WE KNOW, PRETTY MUCH CAN DETERMINE THE ALIGNMENT BASED ON THE TREE COVER AND THE DIGGING THAT OCCURRED TO PLACE THAT LINE IN.

SO WE ARE BEING TOLD THAT THAT GAS LINE CONTINUES IN ITS TRAJECTORY TO THE LAKE. BUT THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A BIG ENCUMBRANCE. YOU ALSO HAVE AN OVERHEAD ELECTRICAL LINE THAT KIND OF JOGS AT THE CREEK AND GOES STRAIGHT UP THE BOUNDARY LINE BETWEEN THE PARK AND THE HIGH SCHOOL, YOU SEE IT IN KIND OF A PURPLE.

WE ALSO HAVE A FLOOD PLANE TO DEAL WITH FROM THE CREEK, YOU SEE THE FLOOD PLANE GETS WIDER HEIGHTS DRIVE.

SO WE HAVE THAT TO CONSIDER AND THAT ALSO PLAYS INTO THE CONTOURS. THE CONTOURS OF THE SITE BASICALLY AS WE ALL KNOW, WATER DRAINS DOWNHILL.

SO THE DRAINAGE IS OBVIOUSLY ALL TOWARD THE CREEK, IF YOU WILL.

SO FROM GEORGE BUSH, THE WATER ESSENTIALLY DRAINS TO THE EAST AND TO THE NORTH A LITTLE BIT. INTO THAT CREEK AS IT GOES ALONG. WE HAVE AN AREA CALLED HIGH POINT. THERE IS KIND OF A HIGH POINT ON THIS SITE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SITE.

THAT IS ABOUT 15 FEET BELOW JOARNLG BUSH.

BELOWGEORGE BUSH. THERE IS DEE DEFINITELY A PROMOY POINT, SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAYS INTO THAT.

WE ALSO HAVE OBVIOUSLY A NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH WE WILL BE ASSISTED TO, WE HAVE THE TURNPIKE TO THE WEST WHICH GIVES A GREAT ACCESS, VIEW ABILITY WHEN YOU'RE ON THE ACCESS ROAD ESPECIALLY, VIEW TO THE EAST, SOME POTENTIAL FOR SOME VIEWS INTO THAT AREA. AND THEN THE RECREATION PARK IN THE HIGH SCHOOL TO THE NORTH, THE RECREATION PARK ESPECIALLY TO THE NORTH HAS SOME REAL POTENTIAL FOR SYNERGIES AGAIN THE PARK AMENITIES YOU HAVE ON SITE AND THE DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD OCCUR WITH TRAIL SYSTEMS AND OTHER THINGS IN THAT AREA.

SO IT'S A REALLY PRETTY EXCITING SITE TO DEAL WITH BUT YOU DO HAVE A LOT OF KIND OF HIDDEN ROADBLOCKS THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH AS WE GO THROUGH THIS. SO THOSE ARE THE VARIABLES WE KIND OF SHOW. THE OTHER THING I MENTIONED IS A SANITARY ON THE UTILITIES. SANITARY SEWER LINE RUNS BASICALLY ALONG THE CREEK WHICH IS PRETTY NORMAL.

SO THEN THERE'S A LINE THAT Y'S OFF OF MILLER HEIGHTS ROAD THAT KIND OF GOES INTO THE CENTER OF THE SITE UP TO SERVE THE RECREATION CENTER AND THE AQUATIC PARK.

SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS AS WILLIAM IN TERMS OF WHAT WE HAVE THERE.

WELL IN TERMS OF WHAT WE HAVE THERE.

THROWS ARE THINGS THAT ARE GOOD, DUE NORTH IS UP AS WE CONSIDER THOSE AS WE LOOK AT BUILDINGS AS WELL.

SO THE FIRST SLIDE WE HAVE IS LOOKING TO SEE, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT OPTION PLEASE. OKAY, THIS IS OPTION, REPLY FACE MY FACE ISBLOCK OPTION A. OPTION A IS SAYING WHAT IF WE MOVE ALL THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE WEST PART OF THE SITE.

SO IT HAS FRONTAGE ONTO GEORGE BUSH, THERE'S LESS INFRASTRUCTURE COST OF ROADWAYS AND UTILITIES TO THAT AREA.

IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, IM GOING TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT IT GIVES YOU A KIND OF LITTLE BIT BETTER PERSPECTIVE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. TALKING ABOUT CITY HALL AND

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LIBRARY KIND OF NESTLED AGAINST THAT FLOOD PLANE SO YOU HAVE GREAT VIEWS TO THE NORTH FROM THOSE BUILDINGS.

IT GIVES US OPPORTUNITY TO DO WHAT MAUREEN TALKED ABOUT IS COMING OUT OF OUR STUDIES IS KIND OF SOME THOUGHTS AS TO MAYBE BUILD KIND OF A CONFERENCE CENTER THAT WOULD BE WHERE CITY COUNCIL TRAINING ROOMS SUPPORT AREAS THINGS LIKE THAT WERE SO WE WOULD ALLOW THE LIBRARY AND THE CITY HALL NOT TO DUPLICATE THOSE KINDS OF SPACES SO SAVE SOME MONEY IN THAT WAY.

THIS PLAN DOESN'T REFLECT THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A KIND OF A LATE DEVELOPMENT BUT THE CITY HALL AND LIBRARY ARE PLACED SO THAT THEY COULD COMMINGLE THOSE KIND OF THINGS TOGETHER.

THE LIBRARY IS SITUATED SO IT COULD EXPAND TO THE EAST.

THE PUBLIC SAFETY COURT WOULD HAVE A DISTINCT ENTRANCE FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY, PROBABLY THE ENTRANCE ON THE LEFT SIDE, PUBLIC SAFETY MIGHT BE ON THE NORTH SIDE.

AND THEN THE HOLDING AREA IS AN AREA THAT BOTH THE COURT AND PUBLIC SAFETY WOULD NEED ACCESS FROM THAT HOLDING AREA.

SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY HOW THIS COULD BE SITUATED ON THIS WEST SITE. ACREAGE WISE, THIS IS IN THE 20 ACRE TO 22 ACRE DEPENDING ON HOW YOU DRAW THE LINE ON THE WEST SIDE OF IT. AND SO YOU HAVE SOME REAL OPPORTUNITIES AS YOU CAN SEE TO HAVE A PRETTY HIGH PROFILE ALONG GEORGE BUSH. THE PUBLIC SAFETY IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THAT GIVES US SECONDARY ACCESS TO MILLER HEIGHTS ROAD. ALSO IF IT WERE BUILT FIRST IT WOULD BE A LOGICAL PLACE TO PLACE IT WOULD BE ON THE SOUTH PORTION OF THAT SITE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE?

>> DUANE, KEEP GOING. I THINK THERE MAY BE SOME QUESTIONS ONCE THEY SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

>> OKAY, OKAY. LET'S GO TO OPTION B THEN.

OPTION B, THIS SHOWS THE OVERALL SITE SO YOU CAN SEE THE ROADWAY SYSTEM THAT WE'RE SAYING COULD WORK HERE.

IT WOULD BE ACCESSING OFF OF GEORGE BUSH, POTENTIALLY A HOTEL SITE. COULD BE AT THAT NORTH PIECE JUST NORTH OOF THAT ROADWAY. HAD SIDES LIKE A COUPLE OF RESTAURANTS PERHAPS TO THE SOUTH SIDE.

THIS WOULD NOT ONLY OBVIOUSLY CREATE AD VALOREM TAX BUT ALSO SALES TAX TO THE CITY OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS.

WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A BRIDGE CROSSING OVER THAT.

WHERE WE HAVE IT LOCATED NOW WE MADE A BIG ASSUMPTION BUT HOPEFULLY IT'S ONE THAT COULD HAPPEN, IS THERE'S A SMALL SLIVER PROPERTY THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ACQUIRED FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL I THINK. BASED ON THE LOT LINES THAT WE'VE SEEN TO ALLOW US TO CROSS OVER AT THE NARROW POINT OF THAT CREEK, THAT FLOOD PLANE. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE IT THERE, IT'S A NARROW POINT AND IT WOULD BE LESS BRIDGE TO BUILD.

IT MIGHT BE A BRIDGE OR IT COULD BE A CULVERT KIND OF BRIDGE.

WE HAVEN'T DONE ENGINEERING STUDIES ON THAT YET.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> YES.

>> WHY DON'T WE JUST IN THIS PLANE WHY DON'T WE JUST CONNECT TO MILLER HEIGHTS FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY?

>> YOU COULD. THERE'S A QUESTION OF WHETHER YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT MUCH TRAFFIC ON TO MY MILLER HEIGHTSD THERE CERTAINLY COULD BE A DECISION TO MAKE TO DID THAT.

BUT THERE'S A QUESTION OF WHETHER THAT ROADWAY WOULD HAVE TO NEED TO BE EXPANDED OR WHATEVER FOR THE TRAFFIC COMING INTO THE CITY HALL THERE. SO IT'S A REALLY A COST-BENEFIT FACTOR THERE THAT ONE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT.

BUT IT'S CERTAINLY A VIEBLG OPTION.

>> AND BY WHAT I WOULD OFFER, TOO, IS THAT IF WE DID WE OBVIOUSLY WOULD EXPAND IF NOTE ON THE NORTH SIDE WHICH IS ON OUR PROPERTY TO GET FOUR LANE OR WHATEVER YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO, YOU WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO MOVE THAT GAS STATION YOU KNOW WHERE THE GAS LINE COMES IN TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

THE OTHER THING IS I'M NOT SURE THE RESIDENTS WOULD WANT THAT MUCH TRAFFIC ALONG MILLER HEIGHTS ROAD, DRIVE, IT'S CERTAINLY -- THIS GIVES US THE OPTION TO ADD BERMING AND

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SCREENING FOR THAT TRAFFIC. THE OTHER THING IS, WHAT WE LIKED ABOUT IT WAS THE ABILITY TO CONNECT TO THE RCC THROUGH THE WET ZONE PARKING LOT. SO ON THE NORTH SIDE.

SO WE THINK THAT THERE -- AGAIN YOU KNOW, DUANE IS TELLING YOU RIGHT, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE OPTIONS.

BUT WE THINK THAT IN WOULD BE A REALLY POSITIVE OPTION IN TERMS OF INTERCONNECTIVITY TO THE REST OF THE PROPERTY THAT THE CITY OWNS THROUGH THE RCC AND THE WET ZONE AS WELL AS THE TRAIL SYSTEM IN THE BACK. BUT YOU ARE RIGHT.

I MEAN IF WE DID THAT THEN YOU KNOW, YOU COULD EXPAND IT

THROUGH THERE. >> WHAT'S THE -- HANG ON, I'M NOT MUTED. OKAY.

THE CIRCLE DRIVE THERE, THE NORTH ROAD HEADING OUT OF THE

CIRCLE -- >> YES.

>> WHAT IS THAT CONNECTING INTO? >> IT'S CONNECTING INTO PART OF THE PARKING LOT AND WE WOULD ENVISION PROBABLY BUILDING A ROADWAY ADJACENT TO THAT PARKING LOT THAT WOULD EXTEND UP TO MAIN

DISCREET. >> RED ZONE.

>> ALL I'M ASKING IS RED ZONE PARKING.

>> YES, AND THE ROUND ABOUT THERE IS IN TRAFFIC PARLAY IT'S A WAY TO BASICALLY SLOW DRASTIC BE A LITTLE BIT.

>> I LIKE THAT (INAUDIBLE) I WAS JUST MAKING SURE I UNDERSTOOD EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

THANKS. AND ANGIE, THE PARK THE SOUTH END OF THE PARK, DOES THAT EXTEND LIKE WHERE OPTION B IS ON

THIS MAP? >> SO THE PARK BOUNDARIES ARE KIND OF UNIQUE IN THAT WET ZONE DOESN'T ACTUALLY SIT INSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF PECAN GROVE PARK. IT KIND OF CUTS AT THE BEST OPTION IS RIGHT AFTER KIDS KINGDOM KICKS BACK A LITTLE BIT

AND THEN OUT. >> LET ME REASK MY QUESTION.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE NEW PARK. ON THE ODOR SIDE --

>> SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS, YES, MA'AM.

>> WHERE ON THIS MAP IT SAYS OPTION B ON THE TOP RIGHT, IS THAT THE FAR SOUTH END OF THAT PARK?

>> THAT IS THE FAR SOUTH END OF WAKE FRONT CONGROVE YES.

>> SO YES, THOSE ARE ALL THE GOOD DISCUSSION POINTS BECAUSE WE WENT KIND OF THROUGH THESE AND MAYOR, TO YOUR POINT OF NOTHING IS FINAL, THIS IS VERY CONCEPTUAL OBVIOUSLY, TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A SENSE OF SCALE TO SOME POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT CAN OCCUR USING THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS THAT WILL ULTIMATELY OCCUR. THE PARKING IS DEVELOPED SUCH THAT YOU COULD ADD PARKING AS THE CITY GROWS TO START ADDRESSING THE INCREASED DEMAND THAT YOU WILL HAVE SO THE PARKING COULD BE PHASED IN, SOME OF THAT PARKING COULD BE PHASED IN OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. NEXT SLIDE KINDS OF GOES IN CLOSER TO THIS. AND YOU SEE CITY HALL IS KIND OF A PROMINENT POINT WITHIN THIS. OPTION B IS BASICALLY WE'VE KIND OF INTERNALIZED THE PARKING. SO THE PARKING IS KIND OF NONDEDICATED. IT IS CLOSE TO THE AREAS THAT NEED IT BUT IT'S KIND OF NOT DEDICATED WITH GREEN SPACE, THAT WOULD BE TREES AND OTHER THINGS THAT KIND OF CREATE A PLAZA EFFECT AROUND THE PARKING AREA. AND IT -- YOU HAVE POTENTIALS FOR THINGS TO THE EAST OF CITY HALL, THEATERS AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT, CELEBRATION PARK WE CALLED IT, BE COULD BE KIND OF TIE INTO THIS WHOLE DEVELOPMENT IF YOU WILL, A PLACE FOR EMPLOYEES AND PUBLIC TO KINDS OF GO AND GET RELIEF FROM THEIR WORK ENVIRONMENT SOMETIMES. AND THE NEXT SLIDE KIND OF SHOWS A THREE DIMENSIONAL VIEW OF THAT IN TERMS OF HOW THAT IS.

SO YOU SEE IT KIND OF CREATES A VERY FORMAL EFFECT FOR THE CITY HALL, LIBRARY AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY CORE HOLDING AND SUPPORT AREAS FOR THAT. IF WE DID A -- IF WE DID A CONFERENCE CENTER, THE CITY HALL AND LIBRARY, THAT CORNER THERE YOU SEE WOULD BE THE LOCATION OF THAT CONFERENCE AREA BETWEEN THE LIBRARY AND THE CITY HALL. NOW, REMEMBER, THIS IS THE -- THIS IS A PROMINENT POINT ON THIS SITE.

SO IT'S BASICALLY KIND OF A HILL THERE THAT, WE'RE RIGHT ON THE TOP OF THE MIDDLE OF THAT PROMINENT POINT.

SO EVERYTHING FROM THIS CENTER FALLS DOWN.

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SO YOU WOULD BASICALLY BE FLATTENING SOME OF IT.

BUT SOME OF THE PARKING YOU WOULD HAVE SOME SLOPE OF THE PARK, NOT MAJOR SLOPE BUT SOME SLOPE THAT YOU'RE KIND OF GOING UP TO THIS DEVELOPMENT IF YOU WILL FROM THE ROUND ABOUT FROM THE BRIDGE. AND OPTION C IS FOLLOWING THE SAME THEME SO I WON'T BELABOR THIS POINT.

LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THIS IS BASICALLY WHERE THE PARKING IS PUSHED TO THE PERIMETER. SO YOU'RE SAYING WHY DID WE DO THIS FORM? SO THE FORM IS BASICALLY SAYING LET'S PUT THE PARKING ON THE PERIMETER AND LET PEOPLE WALK INTO IT THROUGH DEVELOPED PLAZAS INTO THE MAIN CENTER OF THE PIECE IF YOU WILL AND WE DO HAVE SOME PARKING IN THE CENTER FOR -- THAT WOULD BE FOR PUBLIC YOU KNOW EASY ACCESS IN AND OUT OF THE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS. BUT WE WOULD HAVE DEDICATED STAFF PARKING FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY, KIND OF THE CORNER, THAT'S TYPICALLY SOMEWHAT SECURED.

FROM THE BALANC BALANCE OF THE . AND IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE YOU CAN SEE HOW IT KIND OF DEVELOPS A SENSE OF SPACE IN THE MIDDLE. THAT IS A PLAZA WITH WATER THAT KIND OF REFLECTS THE WATER THAT YOU HAVE FROM THE LAKE AREA.

KIND OF SEEING THROUGH ON BOTH OPTION B AND C I COULD SEE A AVERTICAL ELEMENT THAT YOU COULD BYPICK UP FROM GEORGE BUSH AT TS HIGH POINT. SO THAT STARTS SHOWING YOU HOW KIND OF SOME OF THE MASSING MIGHT OCCUR BASED ON KIND OF KEEPING THE PARKING TO THE PERIMETER, AND IN THIS CASE YOU WOULD PROBABLY BE PROGRESSING A LITTLE BIT UP, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S THREE FEET, FIVE FEET, WE DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT, BUT THE VILLAGE WOULD KIND OF BE THE PROMINENT POINT OF THE DEVELOPMENT. YOU SNOW A LOT OF THE BUILDING WE HAVE SORT OF ORIENTED NORTH OF THE LONG PIECES OF THE BUILDING ARE KIND OF NORTH AND SOUTH BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE BEST ORIENTATIONS OF BUILDINGS FROM A USE OF ENERGY AND ALLOWS US TO MAKE SOME REALLY ENERGY EFFICIENT BUILDINGS WITH THOSE ORIENTATIONS. SO THAT'S THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE. LET'S GO TO THE PROGRESSION OF THE NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS SHOWS ALL OF THEM TOGETHER. FOR YOUR ABILITY TO KIND OF WEIGH IT AND S SEE IT AND AGAINY NO MEANS IS THIS THE LAS RESLASTRESPONSE TO THIS, BUT GIS GUIDANCE IN TERMS OF THE THINGS YOU LIKE AND DON'T LIKE. AND WE TAKE IT FROM THERE.

>> MAYOR, THIS IS A REALLY GOOD PAUSE-POINT TO SEE HOW COUNCIL FEELS ABOUT THE VARIOUS SITING LOCATIONS, SINCE THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE CONSENSUS QUESTIONS WE'LL ASK.

SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL SLIDES ARE GOING TO GO INTO COST ESTIMATES FOR ALL THE BUILDING, IT'S GOING TO INCLUDE TIMING, PROPOSED TIMING IN TERMS OF BOND CYCLES.

BUT I THINK WE SHOULD PAUSE HERE AND JUST GET COUNCIL'S REACTION

IF YOU DON'T MIND. >> THERE'S A SLIDE WITH COST

ESTIMATES, IS WHAT YOU SAID? >> YES, THERE WILL BE ONE AFTER

THIS ONE. >> YES, THERE IS A SLIDE, YES.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT -- GO AHEAD BROWNIE.

>> I WAS GOING DO SAY AS FAR AS THE OPTIONS GO I DO CANNOT LIKE OPTION A BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO THE HOMES ALONG MILLER HEIGHTS. AS FAR AS B AND C I LIKE WHERE YOU POSITION THEM, I REALLY LIKE OPTION C FOR ACCESSIBILITY.

>> OKAY. >> AND I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.

I MEAN WE'RE NOT DOING SITE DESIGN AT THIS TIME, BRIAN,

RIGHT? >> NO, MAYOR WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO WAS TO SHOW SOME PERSPECTIVES.

BECAUSE WHAT THE CHALLENGES WE GAVE DUANE AND HIS TEAM WAS THE CITY OWNS ALL THIS LANDS. AND NOW THAT WE KNOW WHAT OUR ULTIMATE DESIGN OR FACILITY NEEDS ARE IS THERE ENOUGH LAND TO MAKE THIS WORK? YOU KNOW.

>> AND I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT MAKING

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DECISIONS TODAY ON, YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC SITE DESIGN.

SO THIS COULD CHANGE -- YOU KNOW, IF WE DECIDE WEST SIDE OR EAST SIDE OR WHATEVER, THE ACTUAL SITE DESIGN COULD CHANGE

SIGNIFICANTLY. >> YOU'RE CORRECT.

IF I COULD WEIGH IN JUST A SECOND, THOUGH, ONE OF THE THINGS TO REMEMBER WITH OPTIONS B AND C, ASSUMING MILLER HEIGHTS WOULD HAVE TO BE IMPROVED ANYWAY, YOU DO HAVE SOME INCREASED INFRASTRUCTURE COST TO USE OPTION B OR C.

SO THAT MIGHT PLAY INTO ANY BOND ISSUE THAT YOU DO.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO KNOW THAT AS YOU GO FORWARD INTO THAT.

SO SOMETIME PRIOR TO THAT, AT LEAST YOU MIGHT MAKE PROVISIONS FOR WHETHER IT WOULD BE OPTION A OR B OR C.

SO THAT YOUR BOND ISSUE WILL REFLECT THE DOLLARS REQUIRED.

AND WE WOULD IMAGINE THAT THEY WOULD BE OFFSET BEING ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD OCCUR AT THE WEST SIDE OF THE EXCITE.

>> YES, AND TO ME IT'S IRRELEVANT BETWEEN B AND C BECAUSE AGAIN IT'S A QUESTION OF WHAT FITS THERE AND CAN IT FIT THERE AND IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF SPECIFIC SITE DESIGN.

>> THAT'S WHY YOU WANT TO SEE THE PRICE TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND IS, YOU KNOW, THE MARKETABILITY OF THE LAND THAT'S NOT USED, YOU KNOW, WE GOT INCREASED MARKETABILITY FOR THE LAND ON THE WEST SIDE, PROBABLY, FROM A COMMERCIAL STANDPOINT THAT WOULD HELP OFFSET SOME OF THIS COST, AND PROBABLY REDUCED MARKETABILITY IF WE WERE TO SELL THE EAST SIDE.

SO -- BUT HAVE WE DONE AN ANALYSIS OF THAT?

>> MAYOR IT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT.

IF WE DEVELOP THE WEST SIDE THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DO ON THE EAST SIDE. AND IF WE DO THE EAST SIDE YOU COULD STILL SELL THE PLOT, THE OUT LOTS ON THE WEST SIDE FOR HOTEL, RESTAURANTS, RETAIL. YOU STILL WOULD BE ABLE TO DO

THAT. >> I MEAN IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN EVERYTHING ELSE WE'RE TRYING TO DID IS KEEPING, PRESERVING OUR COMMERCIAL LAND BECAUSE WE NEED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE

CITY. >> RIGHT.

>> AND, YOU KNOW, PRESERVING THAT WEST SIDE FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT COULD BE PRETTY IMPORTANT.

>> YES. >> I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD

POINT MAYOR. >> COUNCIL COMMENTS?

>> YEAH, I AGREE WITH YOU. BUT I THINK -- I'M SORRY, GO

AHEAD PAM. >> NO GO AHEAD.

>> BUT I ACTUALLY LIKE A. I THINK THAT COULD HELP SPUR SOME COMMERCIAL AND SOME BUSINESS ON THAT CORNER.

IT'S A WEIRD CORNER BEING BETWEEN THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND THE SCHOOL. SO IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY, REALLY HARD TO MARKET THAT. WHERE IF YOU DID, THE FIRST THING I DO WHEN I LOOK AT THAT, I HEAR YOUR POINT BROWNIE BUT I THINK YOU COULD DO SOME SITE DESIGN TO GIVE SOME BUFFER BETWEEN THE TWO. BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THAT, YOU COULD REDUCE THAT PARKING IF YOU DID DEVELOP THAT WITH SOME COMMERCIAL, YOU COULD TURN LIKE THAT BACK SQUARE INTO A PARKING GARAGE. AND REDUCE ALL THAT PARKING ON THE FRONTAGE PIECE OF IT. AND THAT WOULD BE SOME REALLY HIGH-DOLLAR SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO PUT STUFF.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THERE BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE THERE. BECAUSE WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IT ALL THE WAY IN THE BACK AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANYPLACE FOR ANY COMMERCIAL AROUND IT.

STILL GOING TO BE HEART TO MARKET THAT CORNER BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PULL A LITTLE BIT FROM THAT BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS EASY AS THESE FOLKS COMING OUT OF THEIR OFFICE AND GETTING A BITE TO EAT. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WALK OR BIKE WHICH IS ALL VERY GOOD THINGS BUT TAKES LONGER TO DO.

IF YOU PUT IT ON THE CORNER YOU COULD RECONFIGURE THAT A INLT LITTLE BIT AND AS COMMERCIAL CAME IN, DECKED PARKING STRUCTURES TO REDUCE PARKING ON THAT SITE AND HELP THAT CORNER

BECOME VERY MARKETABLE. >> THAT IS WHY WITH ARE I ASK THE MARKETABILITY QUESTION. I LIKE A, BUT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE MARKETABILITY OF THE EAST SIDE IF WE WERE TO BUILD ON THE WEST SIDE. FOR INSTANCE IS THERE SOMETHING THAT'S VERY MARKETABLE BACK THERE CONNECTING TO THE NEW PARK? AND IN THE WOODED AREA, AND OVERSEEING, OVERLOOKING THE LAKE, YOU KNOW, IS THAT SITE MORE MARKETABLE? AND I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO

UNDERSTAND THAT. >> THEN OF COURSE THE STRETCHER

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PARKING IS CERTAINLY GOING TO BN THE SURFACE PARKING.

>> WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT A STRUCTURED PARKING?

>> BECAUSE MATT SAID DOING A PARKING GARAGE RATHER THAN HAVING THE SURFACE PARKING ON OPTION A'S.

>> I DIDN'T HEAR HIM SAY THAT. >> THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING LATER MARTHA THAT WOULD COME AS DEMAND HAVING COME AT DEVELOP COST NOT OUR COST. NOT SOMETHING I WOULD RECOMMEND

DOING UP FRONT. >> SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

>> EVEN OPTION B OR C IF YOU WERE GOING TO MARKET THAT AREA UP THERE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE SOME OF THAT PARKING AND PUT IT DECKED, OPEN SOME OF THOSE SITES, THAT'S FOR FOO FUTE

PIECES OF IT. >> HAS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LOOKED AT THOSE SITES TO LEND US SOME GUIDANCE ON THE

MARKETABILITY? >> NOT FOR TONIGHT.

I'VE MADE A NOTE ON THAT AND WE WILL EVALUATE THE MARKETABILITY ON IT. I WILL SAY THAT IN PART AT LEAST, LOOKING AT THE LOCATION ON THE EAST SIDE WAS DESIGNED AROUND PRESERVING THAT COMMERCIAL FRONT, THAT EXISTS NOW, TODAY, IF WE DECIDE TO SELL IT SNORE THAT PURPOSE.

SO BUT WE WILL EVALUATE THAT MORE FORMALLY.

>> ALSO FOR HISTORICAL REFERENCE BACK IN PROBABLY 07, THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY HAD A MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH IT. AN INVESTOR WAS GOING TO BUILD A LARGE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT SIMILAR TO THE HARBOR IN ROCK WELL BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.

OBVIOUSLY NOTHING HAPPENED WITH THAT BUT THAT IS HISTORICAL REFERENCE FOR THAT SITE SPECIFICALLY.

>> YES AND COY SEE THAT EAST SITE BEING A CAMPUS, TOO.

PRETTY GOOD SIZE CAMPUS NOT A CITY CAMPUS BUT YOU KNOW A

BUSINESS. >> OR CORPORATE CAMPUS.

>> CORPORATE CAMPUS. >> IT WOULD BE A BEAUTIFUL

CORPORATE CAMPUS. >> BIT I RBUT I REALLY THINK THR HERE TIES INTO THE MARKETABILITY OF THE TWO SITES.

>> GOT IT. >> I DON'T KNOW, COUNCIL?

>> I AGREE, YES. HAVE TO LOOK AT A STUDY ON THAT

ONE. >> THE GOOD PART IS YOU HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD OPTIONS HERE. I THINK IN TERMS OF BOTH SIDES ARE LARGE ENOUGH TO HOLD WHAT YOU NEED.

I WAS A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT THE WEST SIDE.

BUT THE WEST SIDE IS CERTAINLY ADEQUATE TO HOLD YOUR -- THIS -- THE NEEDS FOR TO CITY FACILITIES.

AND SO YOU REALLY ARE ABLE TO SAY THAT'S NOT A FACTOR.

SO NOW, LET'S LOOK AT THE ECONOMIC FACTOR OF IT.

>> YEAH, I THINK THAT'S GREAT, GREAT INFORMATION.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK BOTH OPTIONS ARE VERY -- FOR CITY FACILITIES, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET SOME BENEFIT FROM THE OTHER

PIECE. >> I WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET SOME MONEY TO HELP US DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

>> YEAH. >> SO I LIKE OPTION A BUT THE ONLY THING ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> YES. WE WOULD HAVE TO SCREEN THAT.

WEED HAVE TO SCREEN THAT AREA, NATURAL VEGETATION AND BERMING

AND THINGS. >> OKAY, SHALL WE MOVE ON?

>> SURE. OKAY, AND THE OTHER FACILITIES THAT ARE NOT ON THIS CAMPUS, WOULD BE THE PARK MAINTENANCE, AND WE JUST PUT OVER THERE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, THE REASON WE DID THIS WAS JUST SO HOW BIG OF LAND AREAS WE WOULD NEED TO HOLD THESE DIFFERENT PIECES. SO PLANNING WISE, THE CITY COULD BE THINKING ABOUT WHERE WOULD BE THE PROPER PLACES TO PUT THESE.

SO THE PARK MAINTENANCE WOULD NEED ABOUT 1.4 TO 1.5 ACRES, ANIMAL SHELTER ABOUT 1.2, PUBLICATION, 6 BECAUSE OF THEIR LARGE YARD AREA THAT SHE HAVE. THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS IN NEED OF A REMODEL KINDS OF REFRESHING, REFRESHMENT ON THAT AND THE EXTENT OF IT IS, IT IS REALLY INDETERMINANT AT THIS POINT. IT IS SOMETHING THE CITY WILL NEED TO STUDY MORE IN DETAIL AS THEY GO FORWARD.

A SENIOR CENTER, WE HAVE DONE THIS TWO, THREE TIMES WHERE WE'VE ACTUALLY CONNECTED A SENIOR CENTER TO A COMMUNITY CENTER. AND IT APPEARS ADEQUATE SIZE OF ABOUT 10,000 SQUARE FEET. IF IT WERE SEPARATE FROM A COMMUNITY CENTER, THAT NUMBER WOULD BE LARGER.

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BECAUSE YOU'RE BUILDING THINGS THAT SENIORS ARE USING IN THAT COMMUNITY CENTER LIKE A WALK UGH TRACK, LIKE A CARDIO-AREA, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER BUT WE THINK IT PROBABLY RADAR SCREEN.

AND THE FIRE ADMIN, IF YOU WERE TO SEPARATE IT OUT IT IS NOW INCLUDED IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING.

BUT IF YOU SEPARATED OUT THE FIRE ADMIN FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, YOU WOULD NEED ABOUT 1.5 ACRES FOR THAT.

IS THAT'S THE REASON FOR US, WE WANTED TO DOWNLOAD A LOT OF INFORMATION SO YOU CAN BE KIND OF TRANSPARENT IN TERMS OF ALL THE NEEDS AND SIZES OF THINGS THAT WE MIGHT NEED.

>> BRIAN IS THERE A DESIRE TO SEPARATE FIRE ADMIN FROM THE

REST OF PUBLIC SAFETY? >> MAYOR AGAIN THIS WOULD BE AN OPTION THAT WE WOULD HAVE. YOU KNOW, IF FIRE ADMIN IS A SEPARATE BUILDING THEN THERE'S DIFFERENT COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THERE WOULD BE SEASONAL ECONOMIES OF SCALE IF THEY WERE TOGETHER WITH -- IN ONE COMBINED PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING. BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT WOULD JUST -- WE REALLY WOULD JUST HAVE TO STUDY THAT AND REALLY DETERMINE WHAT'S BEST. BUT WHAT WE WANTED FROM DUANE AND HIS TEAM IS TO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH SPACE IS ACTUALLY NEEDED. AND TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THAT COULD BE COMBINED OR SHOULD BE EVEN COMBINED.

>> SO YOUR ANSWER TO MY QUESTION IS, YOU DON'T KNOW YET? I ASKED IS THERE A DESIRE TO SEPARATE FIRE ADMIN FOR SOME

REASON AWAY FROM PUBLIC SAFETY? >> NOT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE,

MAYOR. >> OKAY.

>> YOU KNOW, AND I THINK IN ALL FAIRNESS, THIS IS AN OPTION THAT YOU KNOW JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW DO YOU SPLIT OUT THE SENIOR CITIZEN CENTER IF YOU BUILD IT FROM THE COMMUNITY CENTER, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO DISCUSS AT THE

TIME. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS SLIDE? IF NOT WE CAN PROGRESS TO THE NEXT SLIDE. BUDGET AND TIME LINE OPTIONS.

WE'VE BROKEN THIS DOWN INTO VARIOUS CATEGORIES ON THE LEFT, THE YELLOW THE BLUE AND KIND OF THE ORANGE COLOR.

NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, WE HAVE PROJECTED THE SIZE AND THE BUDGET. LET ME ANSWER PROBABLY SOME QUESTIONS YOU ALREADY HAVE ON THE BUDGETS.

THE BUDGETS INCLUDE EVERYTHING THAT'S NEEDED IN THE PROJECT SO THAT'S NOT HARD CONSTRUCTION. THAT IS ALL THE HARD CONSTRUCTION, PLUS FF AND E IS FURNITURE, FIXTURES AND EQUIPMENT, PROBABLY SPELL THAT OUT FOR YOU.

AND CAN BE QUITE SIZABLE IN THESE LARGER BUILDINGS.

DESIGN FEES AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A 10% CONTINGENCY IN THIS NUMBER. SO GIST AN EXAMPLE.

IF YOU SEE THE POLICE AND HOLDING AND COORDINATE FIRES ADMIN, 57 MILLION SO YOU HAVE WITHIN THAT BUDGET YOU HAVE 5.7 MILLION IN CONTINGENCY AT THIS POINT.

THERE'S -- ALL WE HAVE ARE JUST SIZE WRITTEN DOWN.

WE -- YOU KNOW, THERE IS A LOT OF VARIABLES IN A DEVELOPMENT AS YOU GO FORWARD THAT YOU SHOULD BE CARRYING CONTINGENCY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND IT BUT YOU HAVE IT IN CASE THERE ARE KIND OF UNFORESEEN THINGS COME UP. WHERE THERE'S A SIDE OAR WHETHER IT'S A GEOTECHNICAL OR WHERE YOU HAVE UNDERGROUNDWATER UNDER YOUR BUILDING, THOSE KIND OF THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR AS YOU GO FORWARD. SO THAT'S THE SPIRIT OF THESE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE HERE. THESE NUMBERS ALSO ARE REFLECTIVE OF TODAY'S MARKET AND TODAY'S COST.

THINGS CONTINUE TO ESCALATE ONCE WE GET PAST THIS COVID ISSUE, WHICH PROBABLY IS GOING TO BE HANGING ON PROBABLY AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR IMPACTING CONSTRUCTION.

THIS YEAR, JUST THIS YEAR INFLATION HAS BEEN ESCALATION HAS BEEN PRETTY FLAT AS FAR AS CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY.

AS YOU CAN WELL EXPECT IN THE COMMERCIAL AREA.

PREVIOUS YEARS, IT'S BEEN FIVE, TO FIVE AND A HALF PERCENT YEAR OVER YEAR. SO IF YOU START COMPOUNDING THAT YOU CAN SEE THE IMPACT OF ESCALATION 2 THE PROJECTS IF YOU DON'T ACCOUNT FOR IT. SO THESE NUMBERS ARE BASED ON

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TODAY'S DOLLARS. SO IF SOME OF THESE ARE SELECTED IN THE TIME LINE TO GO FORWARD, I WILL SAY OVER THE NEXT YEAR WITH THIS ONCE-IN-A-LIFETIME COVID ISSUE WE HAVE, IT WILL BE A VERY DIFFICULT TO PROJECT WHAT'S GOING TO IMPACT OVER THE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF PROBABLY IN CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY.

I THINK WE WILL SEE PROBABLY A BOON IN THE INDUSTRY BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S HOLDING BACK. SO BUT WE WOULD GO FORWARD ONCE YOU DETERMINE WHAT THE PROJECTS ARE, I THINK AT THAT POINT IN TIME YOU TEST THE MARKET TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MARKET IS DOING AND YOU WOULD ESCALATE THESE NUMBERS FORWARD TO REFLECT THAT. SO BIG NUMBERS I KNOW FOR YOU TO BE LOOKING AT. BIG NUMBERS FOR US.

BUT IT'S REALITY. THE NUMBERS ARE BASED AGAIN ON WHAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED IN OUR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.

AND WE'VE BASICALLY DONE ALL THESE PROJECTS THAT YOU SEE HERE. MAUREEN ESPECIALLY IN THE LIBRARY AREA. BUT THE -- SO THE SIZE OF THE POLICE HOLDING COURT FIRE IS 103,000 SQUARE FEET AND ON TOP OF THAT YOU HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF PARKING REQUIRED FOR THAT. YOU HAVE ABOUT 460 PARKING SPACES REQUIRED FOR THAT SIZE OF FACILITY.

FOR THE LIBRARY YOU HAVE 45,000, I'M NOT GOING TO READ THE NUMBERS BUT PROJECTED COST IS JUST OVER 20 MILLION.

THAT'S PROJECT BUDGET AGAIN, NOT HARD CONSTRUCTION.

CITY HALL IS 33 MILLION. ANIMAL SHELTER IS 4 MILLION 9.

PUBLIC WORKS IS 14.2 AND PARK MAINTENANCE IS 3 MILLION 2.

THE CENTER, WE HAVE A PROGRAM THERE FOR WHAT HAPPENS THERE, BUT WE'VE PROVIDED AN ALLOWANCE BASICALLY OR SHOULD BE IN DISCUSSION AS THE CITY GOES FORWARD TO DOING THAT AND WE'VE PUT AN ALLOWANCE OF $10 MILLION IN THERE FOR A FAIRLY MAJOR RENOVATION PROBABLY UPGRADE OF SYSTEMS THINGS LIKE THAT WITHIN THAT BUILDING. BUILDING IS OF THE AGE OF PROBABLY IT WILL NEED THAT. SENIOR CENTER IN ADDITION, BEING CARRIED 4 MILLION AND RENOVATE REPURPOSE THIS IS BECAME OF BASY REPURPOSING OF THE POLICE BUILDING.

I'LL LET 89 GINA GO INTO THAT IA FEW MINUTES HERE.

IF WE BROKE OUT, THAT'S WHY WE LISTED THIS OPTION.

IF WE BROKE OUT THE COUNCIL MEETING ROOMS WITH THE LIBRARIES PHASE 1, YEAR S WE'RE SPENDING Y THERE BUT WE ARE TAKINGS AWAY FROM THE CITY HALL BUDGET, IT IS NOT ADDITIVE, SO IT TAKES AWAY FROM EITHER CITY HALL BUDGET WHICH HAS MOST OF THOSE THINGS IN IT. SO THOSE ARE THE OUTLINE OF WHAT WE HAVE HERE RELATIVE TO BUDGETS AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

I'M SURE YOU PROBABLY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS SO I'LL KIND OF BE QUIET AND LISTEN TO YOUR QUESTIONS.

>> HEY DUANE WHY DON'T WE GO TO AT LEAST THE CALENDAR OR A POSSIBLE SCHEDULE ON THE NEXT SLIDE AND THEN COME BACK TO THAT. I JUST WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO OUR TIME BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO RUN OUT IN ABOUT 20 MINUTES OR

SO. >> OKAY, OKAY.

THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO AT LEAST CREATE THE FRAMEWORK FOR COUNCIL TO BE MAKING DECISIONS ON. THIS GIVES YOU A FRAMEWORK OF BONDS ON A THREE YEAR CYCLE STARTING IN MAY OF 2021.

AND YOU CAN READ THE OTHERS. I DON'T NEED TO DO THAT.

SO RELATIVE TO PROBABLY THE ONE OF THE HIGHER NEEDS I THINK YOU HAVE, YOU CAN TELL BY THE DISPARITY OF SPACE REQUIRED AND SPACE PROVIDED THAT GINA TALKED ABOUT IS THE POLICE HOLDING COURT AND FIRE ADMIN, THAT STARTS TAKING CARE OF A LOT OF YOUR BUILDINGS IF YOU WILL IN ONE STRUCTURE.

SO IF YOU'RE GOING FORWARD YOU WOULD PUT THAT ON THE MAY BOND.

I WILL SAY THAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO DEVELOP THESE BUDGETS AS WE TALK TO YOU AND THERE WILL BE A LINE ITEM BUDGET

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FOR YOU SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE REALLY ALL THE ALLOWANCES HAVE BEEN PROVIDED WITHIN THAT NUMBER.

SO THAT DPLUMG C NUMBER COULD MA LITTLE BIT, IT'S NOT GOING TO MOVE DRAMATICALLY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

LIBRARY PHASE 1 IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT THAT MAY BE THE NEXT CYCLE THAT COUNCIL MIGHT WANT TO DO. BUT AGAIN YOU MAY WANT TO MOVE THESE THINGS AROUND. IF WE WERE THERE IN PERSON WE COULD BE MEETING WITH YOU. WE'D HAVE A BIG BOARD AND WE'D BE MOVING THESE THINGS BACK AND FORTHWITH YOU TO ESTABLISH WHAT YOU FELT COMFORTABLE BITING OFF IN EACH YEAR.

IN MAY 2027, WE'RE SAYING POTENTIALLY DO AN ANIMAL SHELTER, PARK MAINTENANCE BUILDING, THAT FREES UP THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, EXCUSE ME THE PART ME MAINTENANCE BUILDING, SY THAT'S PUBLIC WORKS. PARK MAINTENANCE IS ISOLATED OVER IN THE PARK. ONE OPTION YOU MAY WANT TO DO IS PUT PUBLIC WORKS WITH ANIMAL SHELTER SO YOU FREE UP THAT ENTIRE SITE THERE FOR OTHER USE OR FOR REPURPOSING USE.

AND THEN REPURPOSE, IF YOU -- IF YOU DID THE POLICE HOLDING AS A PART OF 2021, THAT WOULD FREE UP THAT POLICE BUILDING THAT YOU -- WE HAVE ONE OPTION HERE IS TO ACTUALLY MOVE CITY HALL INTO THE POLICE COURT BUILDING. AND THAT WOULD BE TO RENOVATE THAT BUILDING AND PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL FURNITURE, TECHNOLOGY, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS NEEDED TO HAVE A USEFUL LIFE IN THAT BUILDING OF MAYBE EIGHT TO TEN YEARS, WHICH WOULD GIVE YOU AN OPTION TO EITHER SELL CITY HALL OR DO OTHER THINGS WITH THAT CITY HALL. SO THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS HERE ON THE TABLE. WE JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE YOU THE FRAMEWORK IN WHICH THAT YOU COULD START SEEING HOW YOU MIGHT MOVE NUMBERS AROUND TO SATISFY WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.

>> MAYOR, I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER GOOD PAUSE-POINT, GIVEN OUR CONSENSUS QUESTIONS. AND SINCE THIS HAS OUR COST ON IT, MAYBE JUST KIND OF GET SOME REACTION.

I WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF POINTS.

YOU'LL SEE AT THE VERY BOTTOM THERE IS THIS OPTION IN PEACH, ACCORDING TO MY SLIDE. KIND OF ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IS, IF WE COULD PUT CITY HALL AND THE LIBRARY, YOU KNOW, NOT ON TOP OF EACH OTHER BUT MAYBE CONNECTED YOU WOULD HAVE SOME SPACE, AND MAYBE YOU COULD PUT IN SOME SHARED MEETING SPACE FOR EXAMPLE. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE INCLUDED THAT. BUT IF WE DON'T BREAK IT OUT THAT WAY THEN EACH BUILDING IS GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SO OMUCH, X AMOUNT OF MEE MEETING SPACE AD ROOMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT OF THE FACILITY. BUT THIS WAS KIND OF A DISCUSSION WE HAD. THE SECOND THING I WOULD SAY IS THAT WE EXPLORED THE POSSIBILITY THAT IF INDEPENDENCE THIS UNDERF WE BUILT THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING FIRST IT'S POSSIBLE TO RENOVATE THE EXISTING POLICE BUILDING FOR CITY HALL AND WE VERIFY THAT THERE'S ENOUGH SPACE IN THERE FOR HR, FINANCE, I.T., CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, FOR THIS CAMPUS TO GO DOWN THERE.

IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO PUT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IN THERE TOO, BUT IT WOULD BE ENOUGH TO AT LEAST BUY SOME TIME.

SO ALL OF THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IS EXPANDABLE IN THE SENSE OF WHERE THAT TIMING WOULD BE. AND THEN IF WE DID BUILD PHASE 1 OF LIBRARY AT THIS TIME, IT WOULD BE LIKELY THAT PHASE 2 WOULD BE BEYOND THIS TIME FRAME. SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF KEEP THAT OUT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND AS WE THINK THROUGH THIS.

>> SO DO WE WANT TO PULL THE PRESENTATION DOWN SO WE CAN SEE ALL OF COUNCIL, IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? LET ME SEE IF I GOT ANYBODY WITH THEIR HAND UP.

BLAKE. >> YES, SO LOTS OF QUESTIONS.

BUT I'LL JUST START WITH ONE. THE RENOVATION TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHICH IS YOU KNOW AN OPTION THAT WE WOULD OPOSSIBLY MOVE THERE TEMPORARILY, AFTER WE MOVED PD AND FIRE ADMIN.

HOW DID IT GET ANYWHERE CLOSE TO $4 MILLION TO RENOVATE THAT FACILITY? I MEAN BECAUSE WE'RE NOT WANTING TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A TAJ MAHAL AS A TEMPORARY USE.

BUT -- >> RIGHT.

WE -- THE THING WE'VE LOOKED AT, IT'S REALLY KIND OF THREE

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DIFFERENT PIECES OF A BUILDING. IT'S GOT THE POLICE AND COURTS IN IT. THEN IT'S GOT A HOLDING AREA IN IT THAT IS PRETTY DIFFICULT TO, YOU KNOW, YOU REUSE RELATIVE TO APPLYING YOUR MONEY TO TEARING THAT OUT.

THERE'S SOME WAYS WE COULD REUSE THAT.

THEN YOU HAVE A SEPARATE BUILDING THERE THAT YOU WOULD REDO. SO THE THING THAT YOU HAVE NOW, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PLAN THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT. WE JUST KIND OF BLOCKED OUT AREAS THAT WE WOULD USE. BUT WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE PLAN, IF YOU ARE GOING DO USE THAT FOR EIGHT TO TEN YEARS AND IT'S A VERY VALID QUESTION YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, DO YOU REALLY MAKE THE SPACES APPROPRIATE FOR OTHE USES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE? OR ARE YOU JUST GOING TO TRY TO USE THE WALLS THAT YOU HAVE THERE WHICH IN SOME OF THE BUILDINGS YOU HAVE NOW THAT'S BASICALLY KINDS OF WHAT YOU'VE DONE. SO THIS IS VIEWED AS YOU GO IN ANG YOU ARE PROBABLY CARRYING OUT A LARGE PART OF THE WALLS IN THAT AREA. TO MAKE THE SPACES APPROPRIATE FOR THE PEOPLE GOING IN. AND WE NEED TO DO THAT SO THAT THE SPACES ARE EFFICIENT AND WE CAN GET PEOPLE IN EFFICIENT WORK SPACES THERE. I SAY EFFICIENT.

I MEAN WORK SPACES THAT WE'VE SAID THEY NEEDED.

IF YOU TRIED TO USE THE EXISTING WALLS THERE, PROBABLY GOING TO RUN INTO SOME CHALLENGES THERE. BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

AND CUT THAT BUDGET DOWN DRAMATICALLY.

I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION PERFECTLY.

SO WHAT WITH WE'VE ALLOWED BASICALLY TO ANSWER THE QUESTION DIRECTLY, ASIDE FROM ANY FURNITURE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU PROBABLY REWIRING IT FOR I.T. STUFF FOR SURE.

BUT WE'VE ALLOWED ABOUT $120 A SQUARE FOOT AND THEN YOU HAVE CONTINGENCY ON TOP OF THAT. AND THEN YOU HAVE SOME FEES TO DO THAT. SO THAT'S HOW THAT'S ARRIVED AT

THAT POINT, IF YOU WILL. >> YEAH, IT'S JUST A TOUGH PILL TO SWALLOW TO INVEST 4 MILLION INTO A FACILITY THAT'S TEMPORARY BASIS. WHEN WE'RE CURRENTLY IN BUILDINGS THAT BARELY DON'T -- DON'T EVEN MEET THE MARK AND WE'VE BEEN IN THESE FACILITIES FOR DECADES.

SO -- >> WE ASK THE SAME -- SORRY -- WE ASKED THE SAME QUESTIONS, IT'S A REAL CRITICAL ONE AND THE ONE THING IS THE COST OF RENOVATING THE BUILDING IS ALMOST ALWAYS GOING TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN BUILDING A NEW BUILDING, OKAY WHERE YOU CAN DO IT THE WAY YOU NEED TO DO IT AT THE BEGINNING. WE SAW THAT EVEN AT THE TIME COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BUILDING. BUT I THINK THE MAIN CHALLENGE IS NOT USING IF DETENTION CENTER AND TEARING OUT THOSE WALLS BECAUSE OF THE EXPENSE OF THAT. I WOULD THINK THAT YOU WOULD DECLINE SO TDESIGN THAT SO YOU E COST DOWN.

IT ALL DEPENDS HOW LONG YOU WOULD BE THERE.

IF THIS IS A GOAL FOR 15 YEARS, $4 MILLION MIGHT BE A GOOD INVESTMENT. BUT IF WE'RE THINKING IT'S SHORT TERM YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY.

>> THAT IS THE POINT I WAS MAKING, AGAIN THERE IS A LOT OF QUESTIONS SO I'LL LET SOME OTHERS ASK.

>> COULD I ADD ONE MORE THOUGHT TO THAT? ONE OF THE THINGS TOO IS AT SOME POINT THAT WE SEE THE CITY DIVESTING THEMSELVES OF THAT BUILDING.

AND THE QUESTION IS ARE YOU DEVESTING A BUILDING OR ARE YOU DIVESTING YOURSELF OF THE BUILDINGR ARE YOU SELLING THE LAND? IF YOU IMPROVE THE SYSTEMS OR THE BUILDING YOU ARE GAINING SOME MONEY FROM THAT WHEN YOU ACTUALLY SELL IT. IT'S NOT DOWN THE TUBES IF YOU WILL, LET'S SAY LIKE CITY HALL, PEOPLE GOING TO PROBABLY REUSE THAT BUILDING PROBABLY GOING TO SCRAPE THAT BUILDING AND BUILD

SOMETHING NEW. >> RIGHT.

>> THERE'S THAT QUESTION TOO, IS HOW DO WE SEE IT.

SO WE JUST COUCH THIS REALLY FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

THIS IS PURELY, AGAIN, TO MAYOR'S POINT EARLIER, THESE ARE NOT RECOMMENDATIONS, THESE ARE JUST KIND OF DISCUSSION POINTS TO GET THE BALL ROLLING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COUNCIL

REALLY WANTS US TO DO. >> WILL YOU MAKE THAT CURRENT POLICE BUILDING MARKETABLE, YOU INCREASE THE PRICE OF IT DOWN THE ROAD. BUT I MEAN THERE'S CERTAINLY SOME GIVENS HERE, CITY HALL IN ITS CURRENT STATE IS NOT GOING

TO LAST MUCH LONGER. >> RIGHT.

>> AND WE ARE OUT OF ROOM IN OUR PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES.

SO I CERTAINLY, CERTAINLY SUPPORT PUBLIC SAFETY BEING THE

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FIRST BUILDING AREA WE TACKLE. AND I THINK MOVING CONSOLIDATED SERVICES OVER FROM THE CURRENT CITY HALL CAMPUS OVER TO THE POLICE BUILDING IS ABSOLUTELY THE RIGHT APPROACH TO TAKE, IN MY OPINION. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ANIMAL SHELTER ALSO GET IN THE FIRST TRANCHE.

BECAUSE IT'S REALLY UP TO OUR CITIZENS, AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK PUTTING, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL NEW ANIMAL SHELTER FACILITY UP BEFORE OUR CITIZENS KNOWING THAT ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT THE TAX RATE, I THINK ALLOWS THEM TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT -- THEY CAN MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. SO JUST KIND OF WANTED TO THROW OUT THAT ANIMAL SHELTER THING. AND I KNOW IT'S A SIDE BAR, IT'S A LOW HANGING FRUIT. IT'S WHATEVER.

BUT I THINK WE OWE IT TO OUR CITIZENS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT DECISION SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

>> ANIMAL SHELTER IS EXTREMELY CROWDED AS YOU KNOW.

IT IS REALLY OVERCROWD HE AT THIS POINT.

>> AND THAT TIME PERIOD AND I KNOW IT'S JUST DATES ON A PIECE OF PAPER. BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE CAN MOVE AROUND CITY HALL AND SURVIVE FOR ANOTHER TEN YEARS, YOU KNOW, OVER IN THAT INFLUENCT POLICE DEPARTMENT BUILDING.

BUT WE CANNOT SURVIVE AS LONG AS THAT SPREADSHEET ON OUR ANIMAL SHELTER. WE JUST CAN'T.

>> I MADE THE SAME NOTE. , MAYOR, BECAUSE IT'S IN THAT MAY 2027 BOND.

AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER COUPLE OF YEARS AFTER THAT BEFORE YOU EVER GET TO MOVE INTO ANYTHING.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EIGHT, NINE YEARS FROM NOW.

AND THERE'S NO WAY. I AGREE, THAT ANIMAL SHELTER NEEDS TO BE MOVED UP. AND I ALSO AGREE WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY, THEY'RE JUST BUSTING OUT AT THE SEAMS.

>> QUESTION ALSO, WELL NOT A QUESTION, REALLY A COMMENT.

I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH THE LIBRARY BEING SO DK E--- BEING CLOSE TO THE FRONT HERE AND I KNOW THERE'S A CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE ON THE CURRENT PROPERTY BUT IS THERE OPTIONS TO ASSUME THAT CONTRACT SINCE IT SEEMS TO BE SURVIVING WHERE IT'S AT A LOT BETTER THAN OTHER BUILDINGS WE HAVE.

IS THERE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? >> BLAKE AS YOU KNOW, IT IS A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT WITH AN OPTION TO RENEW FOR TWO YEARS.

WE'VE BEEN RECENTLY, ALTHOUGH THEY'VE ASKED US A QUESTION BEFORE, THEY HAVE RECENTLY ASKED US AGAIN WHAT OUR INTENT IS.

THEY WANT TO KNOW FOR PLANNING PERSPECTIVE AND THEY'VE ALSO ASKED US IF WE WERE WILLING TO EXTEND IT.

SO I THINK THE OPTION TO GO FURTHER IS THERE.

BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, JUST AS THE PUBLIC SAFETY IS BUSTING AT THE SEAMS, OUR LIBRARY IS PRETTY SMALL FOR ITS SPACE.

AND I THINK AS YOU LOOKED AT ALL OF OUR SPACE IS THROUGH THIS STUDY, IT'S, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH EVERY FACILITY IS SHORT.

BUT I THINK WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO DO, YOU'VE GOT TO BUILD YOUR PHASING BASED ON WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN FIRST AND SECOND AND THIRD. AND WHERE YOU HAVE OPTIONS, YOU KNOW FOR EXAMPLE, IF CITY HALL MOVED INTO THE POLICE BUILDING, THEN THAT BUYS YOU TIME. YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T DO THAT EVENTUALLY I'VE GOT TO START LEASING SPACE TO PUT CERTAIN OFFICES, YOU KNOW, LIKE I.T., GET THEM IN ANOTHER BUILDING OR EVEN A PORTABLE BUILDING SOMEWHERE, SCHOOL DISTRICTS DO IT ALL THE TIME. THERE COULD BE OPTIONS LIKE THAT

AS WELL. >> YEAH, I WAS JUST THINKING IN TERMS OF PRIORITY OF THE LIBRARY COMING FIRST RATHER THAN PUBLIC WORKS OR OTHER DEPARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT HAVE A LOT WORSE ISSUES THAN THE LIBRARY. AND SO IF THAT ABILITY TO EXTEND THAT CONTRACT WAS THERE THAT IS PROBABLY SOMETHING WE SHOULD REALLY LOOK AT AS AN OPTION. SO WE DON'T HAVE THE LIBRARY YOU KNOW FIRST IN LINE BEFORE ANY OTHER BUILDINGS THAT HAVE MORE

CRITICAL NEEDS. >> OH, I THINK THE LIBRARY HAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST CRITICAL NEEDS FROM A SIZE STANDPOINT.

BUT WELL, THE FOUNDATION ISN'T SINKING IN THE GROUND YET COME,-

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YES WE'VE GOT SOME ISSUES. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION IS WE'VE GOT A PLAN FOR A REGULAR BOND IN MAY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE PARKS, WHATEVER THE CIAB COMES ONE AS A RECOMMENDATION WE'LL BE HEARING THAT SOON, COUNCIL. I GET REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT MIXING THIS FACILITY NEEDS WITH OUR REGULAR INFRASTRUCTURE BOND WITH THE VOTERS. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE MESSAGING JUST BECOMES VERY, VERY DIFFICULT.

WE HAVE WHAT, 30 -- WHAT DO WE HAVE WITH BONDING CAPACITY,

BRIAN >> ABOUT 40 MILLION, MAYOR.

>> ABOUT 40 MILLION BONDING CAPACITY WITHOUT HAVING TO INCREASE THE ACTUAL TAX RATE. AND WE NEED THAT IN INFRASTRUCTURE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, GOING TO THE VOTERS AND GOING WE NEED THIS PUBLIC FACILITY BUILDING BUT IF YOU SAY YES TO THIS, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO YOUR TAX RATE. BUT IF YOU SAY YES TO THIS AND SAY NO TO THE 40 MILLION THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS TO YOUR TAX RATE.

IF YOU SAY YES TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND NO -- IT BECOMES VERY CONVOLUTED AND MAYBE I'M WORRIED ABOUT SOMETHING I SHOULDN'T BE WORRIED ABOUT BUT I CERTAINLY WANT TO THINK ABOUT YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO THE VOTERS IN MAY WITH THE REGULAR INFRASTRUCTURE BOND AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO THE VOTERS IN NOVEMBER WITH THIS IS THE FACILITIES PLAN, AND, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST TRANCHE IS PUBLIC SAFETY AND THIS IS WHY WE NEED IT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT Y'ALL THINK

ABOUT THAT KIND OF APPROACH. >> I THINK THAT'S A MUCH BETTER STRATEGY, MAYOR. I LIKE THAT A LOT.

I THINK SEPARATING THOSE GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY TO PREPARE THE MESSAGING, TOO. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT IF YOU HAVE THAT PUBLIC SAFETY, 57 MILLION, IN MAY OF 2021, THAT THERE'S REALLY GOING TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROPERLY PREPARE TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON WHY WE NEED IT.

BUT SEPARATING IT FROM THE MAY BOND ELECTION I THINK IS A

GREATLY STRATEGY. >> ARE THERE OTHER THOUGHTS?

I CAN ARGUE BOTH SIDES BUT -- >> WELL, I MEAN I SEE A LOT OF -- I SEE MORE PROS TO MOVING IT TO SEPARATING IT THAN KEEPING IT THE SAME. I THINK THAT IT'S A MORE STRATEGIC, BETTER PLAN IN THE LONG RUN TO SEPARATE THEM.

>> AND MAYOR, I ALSO FEEL LIKE YOU KNOW HOPEFULLY BY NOVEMBER OF 2021, WE'LL HAVE A BETTER PICTURE OF THE IMPACT THAT COVID, AND HOPEFULLY WILL BE FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD IN A RECOVERY, AND SO IF WE HAVE TO INCREASE THE TAX RATE FOR A NEW PUBLIC FACILITY, OR PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY, I THINK THAT THE PUBLIC MAY BE A LITTLE MORE PALATABLE TO LOOKING AT THAT RATHER THAN TRYING TO DO IT IN MAY OF 2021.

>> WHAT DO OTHERS THINK? >> I'D ADVOCATE FOR SEPARATING

THE TWO. >> I THINK IT WOULD BE A FEASIBLE IDEA TO COMBINE THEM ALL AT ONCE BECAUSE IT'S WAY TOO

MUCH AT ONE TIME. >> YES.

>> I THINK THE MESSAGING JUST BECOMES REALLY HARD.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN GET READY FOR AN ASK ON A PUBLIC

SAFETY FACILITY BY MAY, BRIAN. >> IT'S -- MAYOR IT'S A PUSH.

I MEAN IT REALLY IS. BUT I TELL YOU WHAT.

I MEAN MARTHA, WHAT SHE SAID IS REALLY KIND OF WHERE MY MERRY GO ROUND CENTERS AROUND. IS THAT I STILL DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE COVID-WISE. AND WE HEARD FROM THE -- FROM DALLAS COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

THEY THINK THE BEST THAT WILL HAPPEN FROM A PROPERTY PERSPECTIVE IS THAT OUR PROPERTY VALUES WILL BE FLAT.

, YOU KNOW, FOR NEXT YEAR.

AND THERE'S STILL THE POSSIBILITY IT COULD EVEN BE A LITTLE BIT LESS. SO, YOU KNOW, EDUCATING OUR PUBLIC ON THIS IS ALWAYS A CHALLENGE FOR EVERY BOND ELECTION. IT ALWAYS WILL BE.

BUT I THINK THE MORE YOU STACK ON, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S AN INTENTIONAL STRATEGY. THAT OTHER TIMES YOU'RE TRYING TO HELP THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS.

I THINK WE CAN DO A MUCH BETTER JOB IF WE PUSH THE FACILITIES TO

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NOVEMBER OF 2021 TO HELP OUR PUBLIC UNDERSTAND, THIS IS THE FUTURE OF ROWLETT. WE CAN SEE THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL. SOME CITIES THAT ARE YOUNGER, YOU KNOW, IT'S -- YOU KNOW THE FUTURE IS SO FAR OFF YOU DON'T KNOW. BUT WE CAN ACTUALLY PLAN FOR A FULL BUILDOUT. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A CAMPAIGN THAT WE CAN GO AND EXPLAIN TO THE OPUBLIC INSTEAD OF JUST ONE FACILITY AT A TIME WHEN WE DECIDE IT'S THE NEXT

ONE, THE NEXT ONE, THE NEXT ONE. >> THE OTHER PIECE THAT WE DON'T KNOW YET IS WHAT THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO DO WHEN THEY MEET BEGINNING OF JANUARY. SO IF WE DID MOVE IT OUT TO NOVEMBER, WE WOULD KNOW WHAT IMPACTS THE LEGISLATURE WOULD BE IMPOSING ON CITIES BECAUSE MAY WOULD BE SINE DIE AND THAT WOULD BE A KNOWN EQUATION. SO THAT DOES FACTORING INTO WHAT

WE'RE DOING. >> SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE CONSENSUS THAT WHATEVER WE DO IN REGARDS TO THIS DECISION, IT WOULD BE PUSHED BACK TO THE NOVEMBER ELECTION, NOT THE MAY ELECTION.

HOW DOES EVERYBODY LIKE KIND OF THE ORDER THAT PUBLIC SAFETY COMES FIRST? I THINK I'M SEEING CONSENSUS ON THAT. DOES ANYBODY LIKE MY IDEA OF THROWING IN THE KITCHEN SINK -- OH WAIT, THROWING IN THE ANIMAL

SHELTER AT THE SAME TIME? >> I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT A WAY OF MAYBE -- THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE SOME LOOKING FOR LAND I THINK TO LOOK FOR A NEW SPOT WITH THAT, MAYBE.

BUT IF WE DO, THERE IS -- THERE COULD BE AN ECONOMY OF SCALE IF WE COMBINE THAT WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS.

AS TO ONE COMPLEX AND LOOK FOR A NINE-ACRE CAMPUS SOMEWHERE THAT WE COULD PUT ALL THREE OF THOSE TOGETHER.

AND THEN MAYBE PHASE THAT -- >> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S

NOVEMBER THOUGH. >> I KNOW BUT WE CAN PHASE IN THAT BUILDING IF WE FOUND JUST LIKE WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE CITY HALL COMPLEX, IF WE FOUND THE COMPLEX THAT WAS LARGE ENOUGH, TO BE ABLE TO PUT ALL OF THOSE THREE COMPONENTS TOGETHER.

THE FIRST COMPONENT OF THAT COULD BE AN ANIMAL SHELTER RIGHT

OUT OF THE BAR. >> AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS QUITE FRANKLY, I MEAN WE'RE DOING THREE YEAR BOND OFFERINGS AS A RESULT TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS WE HAVE TO DO FACILITIES ON A THREE

YEAR INCREMENT. >> THAT'S TRUE, THAT'S TRUE.

>> SO WHAT ARE THE QUESTIONS YOU WANT ANSWERED, BRIAN?

>> SO MAYOR WE HAD SEVERAL CONSENSUS QUESTIONS.

ONE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IN WE COULD -- IF WE HAD CONSENSUS ON WHAT YOU KNOW THE SITING LOCATION FOR CAMPUS.

BUT I THINK THAT COUNCIL HAS DETERMINED THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE MARKETABILITY OF THE PROPERTY BEFORE WE MAKE THAT CALL. SO THAT, WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT.

THE SECOND THING IS, PRIORITY ORDER OF FACILITY CONSTRUCTION.

I THINK THERE WAS CONSENSUS ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING AND A DESIRE TO LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF MAYBE THE ANIMAL SHELTER SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

I DID NOT HEAR A CONSENSUS ON THE LIBRARY AT THIS POINT BUT I STILL THINK IT'S PRUDENT FOR US TO EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY THAT WE WOULD EXTEND THE LEASE. PARTICULARLY AT LEAST TO THE SEARCH YEARSESEVEN YEARS IF NOT. AND IF WE'RE THINKING OF MORE OF A CAMPAIGN FORMAT FOR THIS AND PUSHING THIS TO NOVEMBER 21ST WE HAVE MORE TIME TO WORK ON THOSE KIND OF DETAILS.

>> SO DOES THAT COVER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS?

>> IT DOES, MA'AM. >> COUNCIL WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS

ISSUES DOYOU HAVE, QUESTIONS? >> I KNOW I HAVE BEEN QUIET, I HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING TO SAY, YOU HAVE SAID ANYTHING I WOULD HAVE SAID. ESPECIALLY NOW THAT WE'LL HAVE MORE TIME, THE OTHER QUESTION IS WHAT LEVEL OF INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE WE WOULD HAVE TO PUTS ON AS WE ADDED NEW PIECES? SO TO THE MAYOR'S POINT IF WE WERE JUST GOING TO DO CITY FACILITIES OR ARE WE ONLY GOING TO DO THE POLICE AND FIRE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS MUCH, WE ADDED ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER, IT WOULD BE ANOTHER CENT, IF YOU DID THE LIBRARY TOO, IT WOULD BE ANOTHER TWO OCENTS. CENTS.JUST TO HELP MAKE SOME DEN POINTS WE COULD PLAY WITH THAT YOU OR IF WE KNEW WHAT OUR CAPACITY WAS, WE COULD DO ANOTHER BOND IN THIS MANY YEARS WITH THERE TYPE OF -- YOU SEE WHERE I'M KIND OF GOING WITH

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THAT TO HELP MAKE -- BECAUSE IT'S ONLY IF WE ARE LOOKING AT HAVING TO RAISE IT LET'S SAY THREE CENTS, THAT WE'VE HAD TO REDUCE IT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS TO BUILD THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CENTER AND IT'S ONLY AN ADDITIONAL CENT TO GET THE LIBRARY, JUST THROWING OUT NUMBERS HERE, JUST TO BE ABLE SO TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS TO BE ABLE BE TO MAKE SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS AS WE GET CLOSE TO THAT, WOULD HELP.

>> MATT, AS A RULE OF THUMB, THIS WAS KIND OF LATE SUMMER AS WE WERE LOOKING AT IT. ROUGHLY, ABOUT ONE PENNY FOR

EVERY $10 MILLION. >> OKAY.

>> ON THE 20 YEAR G.O. BOND ELECTION.

>> GOOD, THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION.

>> OKAY. >> MAYOR, THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT DISCUSSION. I REALLY FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD GUIDANCE THAT WE CAN WORK WITH AND KEEP PLUGGING AWAY

AT THIS. >> OKAY.

I DON'T SEE ANYBODY'S HAND UP SO I THINK WE'LL MOVE ON.

>> DUANE, GINA, MAUREEN THANK YOU GUYS.

>> THANKS EVERYBODY. >> THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT, LOOK FORWARD TO LETTING US MOVE ALONG.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. >> ALL RIGHT THANK YOU.

WE GOAL DO ITEM 3B WHICH IS RECEIVE AN UPDATE ON THE CITY'S

[3B. Receive an update on the City’s Rowlett Business Stimulus (ROBUST) grant program and Individual/Household Assistance Program. (20 minutes)]

ROWLETT BUSINESS STIMULUS ROBUST GRANT PROGRAM AND THE INDIVIDUAL HOUSEHOLD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. WHO'S TAKING THAT?

HEY ED. >> I'M PRIMARY.

>> TAKE IT AWAY! >> SO I'LL WAIT FOR THE PRESENTATION, THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

YESTERDAY WE DID RECEIVE THE FINAL PAYMENT FOR DALLAS COUNTY FOR OUR CRF ALLOCATIONS SO WE'VE BEEN NOT ONLY DID THEY APPROVE OUR REIMBURSEMENT PLAN BUT THEY'VE ALREADY PAID US THE REMAINING BALANCE. AND WE FINISHED OR THE CHAMBER FINISHED THE ROBUST DISTRIBUTION CHECK DISTRIBUTION THIS MORNING.

SO VERY RECENT UPDA Y YUME UPDAE TOO.

>> ARE YOU TRYING TO PULL THE PRESENTATION UP?

JUDGE YES, MA'AM. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> I DO HAVE MICHAEL GULPS HERE. I WAS NOT ABLE TO GET CATHOLIC CHARITIES ON TONIGHT. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS I CAN FORWARD THEM TO THEM AND RESPOND VIA E-MAIL.

>> WHILE SHE'S PULLING THAT UP LET ME FILL SOME TIME WITH A QUESTION. I JUST GOT A MESSAGE FROM A RESIDENT THAT SAYS THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH A CASEWORKER, THEY FINALLY GOT APPROVED FOR ASSISTANCE FROM A MEMBER AND THEN THEY SUBMITTED THEIR DECEMBER INFORMATION AND WAS TOLD THAT WE'VE CLOSED DOWN THE INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

>> SO WE DID PROGRESSIVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE STOANGS CATHOLIC CHARITIES TO FIN FINISH PROCESSG APPLICANTS, WE DID HAVE FIVE APPLICANTS I CAN ASK THAT CATHOLICKING CHARITIES DID HOLD THOSE BECAUSE THOSE OARE NOT AUTHORIZED TO BE PROCESSED BY COUNCIL. IN REGARDS TO THAT SPECIFIC CASE I WOULD NEED MORE INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW UP WITH CATHOLIC CHARITIES. WE DID IN OUR INITIAL MEETING WITH CATHOLIC CHARITIES DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL FOR AN APPLICANT WHO SUBMITS ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION AFTER THE INITIAL APPROVAL, FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING, UP TO THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT PROVIDED BY THE PROGRAM. SO --

>> I GUESS I'M ASKING A MORE GENERAL QUESTION BECAUSE I'M QUOCONFUSED NOW. WE SAID THEY COULD APPLY FOR A

MONTHLY AMOUNT, RIGHT? >> YES.

>> AND HOW LONG WOULD THAT LAST INTO? I MINE WE HAD A DEADLINE OF WHEN PEOPLE COULD APPLY BUT THEN THEY HAD NUMEROUS MONTHS THAT THEY COULD RECEIVE ASSISTANCE FOR

RIGHT? >> I BELIEVE THE UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THE ASSISTANCE WOULD BE UP TO THE LAST DAY WHERE CATHOLIC CHARITIES WAS AUTHORIZED TO DISTRIBUTE ASSISTANCE. SO IF THAT WAS NOVEMBER O30TH THEN IF AN APPLICANT WHO LAST ALREADY BEEN APPROVED HAS ALREADY RECEIVED FUNDING CAN SUBSTANTIATE ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN BUILD AND BD NIGHT ASSISTANCE FOR THAT THEY CAN GO AHEAD SUBMIT AND RECEIVE ASSISTANCE FOR THAT PAYMENT.

>> I'M GOING TO TELL THIS RESIDENT THAT --

>> SORRY, IT'S UP TO OUR -- TO THAT ORIGINAL, WHATEVER THAT DEADLINE WAS AT THAT TIME, BECAUSE WE HAD NOT AMENDED THAT

DEADLINE. >> I'M NOT TRYING TO GET A

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SPECIFIC RESIDENT ANSWER. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE PROGRAM SO THANK YOU. GO AHEAD ED.

>> ARE THE SLIDES UP? ALL RIGHT.

SO FIRST, THE ROBUST PROGRAM, COUNCIL AUTHORIZED A BUDGET OF A LITTLE BIT ALMOST 1.1 MILLION. THAT INCLUDED A LITTLE OVER 1 MILLION DIRECT ASSISTANCE AND GAY HOWE IN ADMINISTRATIVE COST.

58,000 IN ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. 90 AWARDS HAVE BEEN ISSUED TO 83 BUSINESSES, WE HAD SEVEN WHO RECEIVED ASSISTANCE IN THE FIRST AND THIRD ROUND OR THE SECOND AND THIRD ROUND.

REMEMBER THAT THE FIRST ROUND AND THE SECOND ROUND WERE FROM THE SAME APPLICATION PERIOD FROM APRIL.

AND THE THIRD ROUND WAS THE APPLICATION PERIOD FROM AUGUST.

TOTAL EXPENDITURES, ARE A LITTLE BIT OVER $600,000.

CHAMBER HAS NOT BILLED US FOR ANY ADMINISTRATIVE COST.

THE TOTAL UNSPENT FUNDS WITH DIRECT ASSISTANCE THAT'S ALMOST 411,000 AND THAT'S A HARD NUMBER AT THIS POINT AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE OUTSTANDING ADMINISTRATIVE COST ONCE WE HAVE A BILLING FROM THE CHAMBER, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE A MORE ACCURATE NUMBER ON THAT. SO AT THE BARE MINIMUM THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING REMAINING FROM THE ROBUST ALLOCATION IS A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN 411,000. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

DO BREAK DOWN THE THREE DIFFERENT ROUNDS BUT I'M JUST GOING TO COVER THE CUMULATIVE. SO 90 APPLICANTS RECEIVED ASSISTANCE. THREE BUSINESSES WHO HAD APPLIED FOR ASSISTANCE CLOSED. SO WE WERE UNABLE TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO THEM. SEVEN DECLINED OR WITHDREW.

15 HAD EITHER DIDN'T PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION ON TIME OR WERE FOUND THAT THEY DIDN'T QUALIFY. AND THEN ONE WAS DENIED BY COMMITTEE WHO REVIEWED THE APPLICANTS.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT PIECE? NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

NEXT IS THE INDIVIDUAL HOUSEHOLD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

WE HAD A BUDGETS OF ABOUT 550,000 WITH A LITTLE BIT OVER 500,000 WITH DIRECT ASSISTANCE AND 50,000 FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE COST. AS OF LAST FRIDAY, 22 AWARDS HAD BEEN ISSUED. AND THE NEXT SLIDE WILL COVER THE TOTAL NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS AND WHAT'S OUTSTANDING.

LET'S GO BACK TO THAT FIRST SLIDE PLEASE.

AS OF FRIDAY, ALMOST 52,000 HAS BEEN PROVIDED AND ADMINISTRATIVE COST OF 5200. TOTAL UNSPENT FUNDS, 450,000 FROM DIRECT ASSISTANCE AND 45,000 ADMINISTRATIVE COST, AND PROJECTED REMAINING FUNDS WILL TOTAL 470,000.

AND THAT INCLUDES THE 57,000 THAT CAN ACCOUNT FOR EXPENDITURES AND ALSO BASED ON THE APPROVAL RATE AND THE A OF APPLICANTS OUTSTANDING TO BE REVIEWED OR RECEIVED, ABOUT 25,000 THAT'S HOW I GET TO THAT NUMBER OF WHAT OUR EVENTUALLY UNDERARM WILL BE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THIS PROVIDES A BREAKDOWN AS OF THIS PAST FRIDAY.

THE PROGRAM HAS RECEIVED 53 APPLICANTS, CATHOLIC CHARITIES HAS REVIEWED 46 OF THOSE, 87%, SEVEN ARE STILL PENDING REVIEW, AND 11 HAVE BEEN DECLINED, 22 HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND 13 WE'RE WAITING FOR OADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION.

AND FOR CATHOLIC CHARITIES TO JUST PROCESS ANYTHING THEY HAVE RECEIVED SINCE FRIDAY. A TOTAL OF FUNDS DISTRIBUTED AGAIN DIRECTLY TO OUR RESIDENTS, TOTALS JUST SHORT OF 52,000, OR AN AVERAGE OF 5362 PER CLIENT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY. NEXT SLIDE.

THE FOOD PANG TRI ASSISTANCE PROGRAM COUNCIL DID ALLOCATE 100 THOUSAND WITH 50,000 FOR LIFE MESSAGE AND 50,000 FOR OHOPE IN HAND FOR THE REIMBURSEMENTS OF COVID RELATED COSTS.

WE STILL HAVE TWO AWARDED AMOUNTS WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE FINALIZING, LIFE ASSISTANCE AND HOPE IN HAND A LITTLE BIT OVER 14,000 FOR A FOOD PANTRY ENHANCEMENT PROJECT.

REMAINING FUNDS ESTIMATED IF THOSE ARE APPROVED AND I DO PLAN TO BRING THOSE TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

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WILL TOTAL JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER 51 THOU WITH 15,500 LEFT FOR LIFE MESSAGE AND 56,000 FOR HOPE IN HAND.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THAT ?

>> I WOULD IMAGINE THAT WE ARE SAYING TO 19 THESE WILL REMAIN UNUSED FUNDS. WHEREAS THE ROBUST GRANT AND THE INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE GRANT WE'RE THINKING WILL PROBABLY UTILIZE SOME OF THOSE REMAINING FUNDS.

ARE WE ANTICIPATING UTILIZING THIS, THESE SPECIFIC REMAINING

FUNDS OR NOT? >> WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH THOSE TWO FOOD PANTRIES TO DETERMINE WHATEVER OTHER ELIGIBLE COSTS WE CAN SUBMIT TO COUNCIL.

WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH LIFE MESSAGE ON PROCESSING THEIR CDBG ALLOCATION AND THAT'S BEEN THE BIG CHALLENGE WITH TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING ELIGIBLE FOR THEM.

AND THEN WITH HOPE IN HAND THAT PROJECT I THINK WOULD BE THE EXTENT OF WHAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE UNLESS COUNCIL CHOOSES TO AUTHORIZE THE EXPANSION OF SOME -- REALLY WE DIDN'T RECEIVE TOO MUCH IN TERMS OF PARAMETERS. BUT WE WERE OPERATING OFF OF THE NONPROFIT INITIAL PROPOSAL BACK IN AUGUST.

THE AD HOC ROBUST COMMITTEE DETERMINED THAT WE WOULD NOT SEEK AN ALLOCATION THROUGH THE ROW BU PROGRAM FOR A NONPROFIT COMPONENT OF THAT. INSTEAD WE WOULD PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO THESE TWO NONPROFITS BUT IF COUNCIL CHOOSES TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE TO NONPROFITS THEN WE OF ASSISTANCE THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THESE TWO OORGANIZATIONS. KEEP IN MIND THAT WE APPROACHED THIS FOR HOPE IN HAND DALLAS COUNTY DID ALREADY APPROVE THAT PROJECT. BEFORE I PRESENTED IT TO COUNCIL I DID ASK FOR DALLAS COUNTIES TO APPROVE IT.

BUT SINCE WE CHANGED OUR REIMBURSEMENT STRATEGY ON OCTOBER 26TH THAT CHANGES HOUSE WE CAN PROVIDE THIS AND PROVIDE OUS A GREAT MORE FLEXIBILITIES.

EVERYTHING THAT IS PROPOSED IS CURRENTLY WITH THE PREVIOUS MINDSET OF HAVING TO BE APPROVED THROUGH THE DALLAS COUNTIES CRF

PROGRAM. >> THAT ACTUALLY MADE PERFECT SENSE. THANK YOU.

>> AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? >> I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A BRIAN

QUESTION. >> THAT'S THE BIG QUESTION.

WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE GO FROM HERE.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT INFORMATION.

THANK YOU ED AND MICHAEL FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF ALL THIS.

INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT WORK. WE ARE HELPING PEOPLE, WE ARE HELPING BUSINESSES. WHERE DO WE GO NOW?

>> SO MAYOR, AS YOU KNOW WHEN WE HAD THE LAST MEETING, MIGHT HAVE BEEN TWO MEETINGS AGO, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT CHANGING OUR CURRENT STRATEGY RELATED TO THE C.A.R.E.S. FUND, AND SO OBVIOUSLY THERE IS GOING TO BE DOLLARS LEFT OVER.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGED PARTICULARLY WITH THE INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE. SO OUR NEXT STEP REALLY IS TO DETERMINE WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO WITH THOSE FUNDS? DO WE WANT TO EXTEND THE PROGRAM? DO WE WANT TO WAIT AND SEE IF THIS CURRENT COVID SURGE IS GOING TO CAUSE, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL ISSUES? DO WE WANT TO WAIT AND SEE IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES ANOTHER STIMULUS? WE NEED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION. AND AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW -- WELL, THAT IS THE NEXT STEP IS HOW DO WE USE THESE FUNDS IF WE CHOOSE TO DO SO. DID REMAINS FUNDS I'M TALKING ABOUT. WE ARE STILL AS ED SAID WE'RE STILL UNDER THE -- WE'RE STILL WORKING UNDER THE SAME GUIDELINES AND DECISION MAKING THAT WE'VE BEEN USING UNDER THE CRF FUNDS TO BEGIN WITH. BUT NOW IT SHIFTS TO, WE GET TO

MAKE THOSE CHOICES. >> I PERSONALLY WOULD SURE LIKE TO SEE THE REST OF THE ROBUST GRANT FUNDS GO OUT TO OUR BUSINESSES. AND, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE A SPECIFIC PROGRAM WHERE THEY CAN GET REIMBURSEMENT FOR PROTECTION SUPPLIES, YOU KNOW WHETHER IT'S RESTAURANTS WITH DIVIDERS OR OUTDOOR SEATING OR PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT OR, YOU KNOW, EXTENDING THIS TO OUR NONPROFITS.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF NONPROFITS IN TOWN THAT DIDN'T GET TO DO THEIR FUND RAISERS. SO I PERSONALLY WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE US ALLOCATE A GOOD PORTION OF THAT REMAINING ROBUST GRANT THAT WE'VE ALREADY ALLOCATED TO BUSINESSES IN A PROGRAM WITH EXPANDED PARAMETERS SURROUNDING SOME OF THOSE AREAS

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THAT ARE STILL IN NEED. >> AND MAYOR, THIS IS MICHAEL.

I AGREE WITH YOU 100%. WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESSES IN GREAT NEED AND ANYTHING WE CAN DO, ANYTHING WE CAN DO WITH THESE LEFTOVER FUNDS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED AND

VERY MUCH, VERY HELPFUL. >> SO IS THAT SOMETHING COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE LOOKED AT NEXT?

>> YES. >> YEAH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DID WHILE WE APPROVEDTHE USING THE FUNDS FOR POLICE SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE CONTROL SO THAT WE COULD DO SOME OF THIS STUFF. SO YES, I'M TOTALLY ON BOARD

WITH THAT. >> IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE

COED CAN LOOK AT NEXT, MICHAEL? >> YES, ABSOLUTELY.

>> WHEN WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT?

>> WE CAN START LOOKING AT IT TOLERANT IF WHITNEY AND ED HAVE

TIME. >> FAT CHANCE!

>> BIG TIME -- >> I CAN MAKE SOME TIME FOR YOU.

THE FIRST MEETING OF -- OR THE NEXT MEETING OF CO-AD IS THE

FIRST MEETING IN DECEMBER. >> RIGHT.

>> WE CAN PULL TOGETHER, I'M SURE WE CAN PULL TOGETHER A ROBUST COMMITTEE THAT WE HAD TO DEVELOP WHAT I WOULD SEE, MAYOR, IS MAYBE DOING TWO PROGRAMS. ONE THAT WOULD BE SPECIFIC TO BUSINESS AND THEN ANOTHER THAT WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH THE NONPROFIT, THAT WE TRIED TO SUBMIT BUT MAYBE WITH NOT SO MANY RESTRICTIONS. AND THEN BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO

YOU WITH THOSE TWO PROPOSALS. >> LET'S DO IT.

>> PERFECT, THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, NEEDS, ED ON YOUR PART, MICHAEL?

OKAY. >> NO MA'AM.

>> NOTHING ELSE, NO MA'AM. >> ALL RIGHT, IF WE LOOK AT THE

[4. DISCUSS CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

CONSENT AGENDA REAL QUICK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING Y'ALL WANT A QUESTION ON OR WANT TO BE PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION AND WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO PULL IT.

BUT I WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT IF I'M READING THE PACKET CORRECTLY, WE HAVE 73% OF OUR REGISTERED VOTERS VOTE IN THE NOVEMBER ELECTION. WHAT?

>> YEAH. HUGE RECORD.

>> AM I READING THAT RIGHT LAURA?

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> HAS ANYBODY EVER SEEN THOSE KIND OF NUMBERS IN THE CITY OF ROWLETT?

>> HUH-UH. >> NOPE.

>> CONGRATULATIONS, VOTING PUBLIC.

73% OF OUR REGISTERED VOTERS, VOTED IN THE NOVEMBER ELECTION.

THAT IS JUST UNBELIEVABLY GOOD SO THANK YOU.

AND YOU HAVE SOME CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS BEING SWORN IN THIS WEEK FOR THEIR NEW TERMS AND WE'LL BE PRESENTING THAT IN THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, CORRECT? YES?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> YES.

>> DOES ANYBODY NEED ANYTHING PULLED ON CONSENT AGENDA OR DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, LET'S TAKE A FEW-MINUTE BREAK AND TRY, IT'S 7:29.

LET'S START AT 7:35. >> AWESOME.

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