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[1. Call To Order]

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>> AND LAURA HAS INFORMED ME WE DO NOT HAVE CITIZEN INPUT.

WE HAVE LOTS OF CITY STAFF. WELCOME EVERYONE.

WE'RE SO GLAD YOU COULD JOIN US. OBVIOUSLY CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. WE HAVE A QUORUM AND OUR AGENDA

[2. Discuss and consider the proposed slate of projects for the 2021 Bond Election as recommended by the Community Investment Advisory Board. (180 minutes)]

ITEM IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE PROPOSED SLATE OF PROJECTS FOR THE 2021 BOND ELECTION AS RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMUNITY

INVESTMENT ADVISORY BOARD. >> WHO IS TAKING THIS?

>> ANGIE WILL BE TAKING THIS. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION TO GET ALL THE DATA ON THE TABLE AND WE WILL START THE DISCUSSION.

ANGIE. >> GOOD EVENING.

LAURA AS THE PRESENTATION. I DID SEND COUNCIL A LOT OF INFORMATION IN TO DO PACKET AHEAD OF TIME.

YOU CAN HAVE IT THERE. THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT MODEL WHERE WE MIGHT WRITE ON A WHITE BOARD AS WE GO.

TONIGHT WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS THE 2021 CIP BOND PROJECTS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE LAURA. WE WILL REVIEW A TOTAL LIST OF THE PROJECTS. I WILL STAN THROUGH THEM RELATIVELY QUICKLY, GARY AND HIS TEAM ARE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. IF THERE IS A PARTICULAR PROJECT THAT YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, THE TEAM IS HERE TO ANSWER THAT.

WE WILL RECAP THE TWO OPTIONS PRESENTED BY THE CAIB BY THE BEGINNING OF DECEMBER AND DISCUSS THE FINAL STRATEGY AND THE HOPE IS TO FINALIZE A PROJECT LIST.

>> THE CIAB IF YOU RECALL RECOMMENDED THREE PROPOSITIONS, PROPOSITION IS A IS DRAINAGE, B IS PARKS AND OPEN SPACES AND C IS PUBLIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE LAURA.

AND I CAN GO THROUGH THESE ONE BY ONE.

YOU HAVE MOST OF THESE. THEY ARE HERE IF WE NEED TO FLIP BACK AND FORTH. THIS LIST OF PROJECTS IS THE FULL LIST IN RANKING ORDER. THE CIAB AS YOU REMEMBER DID A VERY PRESCRIPTIVE RANGING. WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS THE PROJECT NUMBER SO PJ IS PUBLIC WORKS.

PR IS PARKS AND REC. FD IS FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THE NUMBER BESIDE THAT PROJECT SO PW3 MEANS THAT PROJECT WAS NUMBER THREE ON STAFF'S RECOMMENDED LIST AS THEY PRESENTED IT TO THE BOARD. WE HAVE THE PROJECT TITLE, THE TOTAL SCORE AS IT FELL IN THE RANKING AND ALL PROJECT COSTS.

THEN WE HAVE THE RECOMMENDED AMOUNTS.

A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE IS PW3. MILLER ROADS TO THE CAUSEWAY.

SCORED A 7.5. TOTAL PROJECT $51.2 MILLION.

THE REQUESTED A LOT FOR THE BOND WAS $2.56 MILLION AND THAT WAS TO BE A GRANT MATCH. EACH ONE OF PROJECTS HAS VERY SPECIFIC INFORMATION ABOUT THEM IN THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION.

NEXT SLIDE LAURA. WE CAN GO THROUGH IN DETAIL MAYOR OR COME BACK AND ANSWER QUESTIONS AS YOU HAVE THEM LATER

IN THE SLIDE SHOW. >> I THINK WE CAN COME BACK TO THEM. THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE PROJECT LIST. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE IN THERE SO WE COULD GO BACK.

AND THE CIAB MADE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE PROJECTS.

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NEXT SLIDE LAURA. THEY MADE A $40 MILLION RECOMMENDATION AND THIS ONE IS JUST A LITTLE OVER 40.

$40,000,026. THIS WAS INCLUDED IN THE RECOMMENDATION AND I SENT OVER THE TALKING POINTS FROM THE CIAB TO COUNCIL AND THAT WERE IN THE PACKET AS WE CAME UP TO THE FOLLOW LIST. THE NEXT SLIDE LAURA IS THE $50 MILLION PROJECT RECOMMENDATION.

WHAT PROJECTS WERE RECOMMENDED AND YOU SEE SOME OF THE BRIGHT BLUE BOXES. THAT IS WHERE CIAB RECOMMENDED MAYBE A DIFFERENT AMOUNT OR A DIFFERENT KIND OF DIFFERENT ADDED A PROJECT THAT WASN'T ON THE 40 MILLION.

FOR HERFORD PARK, PHASE TWO IS 1.8 MILLION AND IN PART TWO, IT WAS RECOMMENDED 3.6 MILLION TO COMPLETE PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE. NEXT SLIDE LAURA.

THEN BUDGET INFORMATION. SO WENDY IS HERE WITH US TONIGHT AND SHE HAS PUT TOGETHER THE CURRENT FORECASTS.

THE 2021 BOND ELECTION CAPACITY IS PROJECTED AT APPROXIMATELY 40 MILLION. THE 2021 BOND CAPACITY IS PROJECTED AT APPROXIMATELY $61 MILLION.

THESE CAN BE ACHIEVED FOR NO TAX INCREASE.

THE 2021 MARKET TRENDS PROVIDED BY D CAD ON NOVEMBER 20, 2020, RESIDENTIAL MARKET VALUE TRENDS WILL BE FLAT TO SLIGHTLY UP.

NEW CONSTRUCTION WILL TREND SLIGHTLY LESS THAN 2020 AND COMMERCIAL DRAMATICALLY IMPACTED ANTICIPATE MARKET VALUE LOSS DUE TO IMPACT OF COVID, NEW CONSTRUCTION WILL LIKELY TREND LESS THAN 2020. THERE'S THE BONDS.

SERIES 2021. 2022, AND 2023.

AND HOW THE PROJECTS WOULD BE BROKEN OUT IN FUNDING AT THE $40 MILLION LIMIT. AND AGAIN, WENDY IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS WHEN WE'RE DONE.

NEXT SLIDE LAURA. QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY THAT CAME UP AT THE JOINT MEETING AND THE FIRE CHIEF IS HERE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. THE EMERGENCY SIREN SYSTEM UPGRADE. WHILE EMERGENCY SIRENS ARE GEARED AT WARNING PEOPLE OUTDOORS OF UPCOMING INCLEMENT WEATHER. WHAT WE KNOW IS A LOT OF PEOPLE OPEN THEIR FRONT DOOR AND LISTEN FOR THEM AS WELL.

THE PROPOSED SYSTEM IS MORE THAN JUST SIRENS.

IT INCLUDES LIGHTNING DETECTION FOR MAJOR PARKS.

PECAN GROVE AND SPRINGFIELD. CAMERAS AND WEATHER STATIONS AND INCLUDES A FIBER CONNECTION. THAT'S THE COVERAGE AREA MAP.

THE SPECIFIC COST DETAIL IS BROKEN OUT BELOW AND THAT'S HOW IT CAME OUT WITH THE $1.4 MILLION.

THE SIREN, LIGHTNING DETECTION, WEATHER STATIONS AND FIBER CONNECTION. AND THE NEXT SLIDE LAURA.

IS ABOUT THE FIRE AND POLICE DENSITY AT SAPPHIRE BAY, THERE WILL BE A NEED TO CONSTRUCT FIRE STATION NUMBER FIVE.

THE TOP MAP SHOWS THE POTENTIAL LOCATION AND WHERE THAT WOULD END UP AND THEN THE BOTTOM INSERT JUST KIND OF SHOWS THE GENERAL LAYOUT. IT WOULD BE A FIRE EMPLOYEE SUBSTATION AND THEN THE SPECIFIC COST DETAILS, IT WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 20,000 SQUARE FOOT.

THERE'S 9.5 MILLION IN CONSTRUCTION COSTS.

$950,000 AND BRINGS US TO $11.8 MILLION FOR A TOTAL COST.

THESE WERE BROKEN OUT BECAUSE THERE WAS SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AT THE JOINT CIAB MEETING. ONE OF THE THINGS MOST RECENTLY ASKED FOR BY COUNCIL WAS THE PCI AND SENT OUT LATE LAST WEEK.

WE TOOK THE 50 WORST, I COULDN'T FIND A BETTER WAY.

THIS IS THE CONCRETE STREET PCI. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE COUNCIL HAD THE INFORMATION THEY NEEDED TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS GOING FORWARD. EIGHT IS THE LOWEST SCORE AND THIS WAS 50 JUST THE TOP 50. I TOOK THE 50 STREETS.

NEXT SLIDE IS GOING TO BE THE ASPHALT STREET PCI.

AND YOU CAN SEE KIND OF HOW THESE ARE RED, YELLOW, RED, ORANGE YELLOW AND GREEN HOW THEY ARE RANKED.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE LAURA. AND THEN THIS IS GOING TO BE THE ALLY PCI. THIS IS JUST THE 50 WITH THE LOWEST SCORE ON THE LIST. THE ONES THAT YOU SEE HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE ARE CURRENTLY IN DESIGN FROM EITHER 2015 OR 2018 FUNDS JUST TO GIVE YOU A POINT OF REFERENCE.

WES WESTWOOD, LAKE CREST ESTATES.

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FLOWER HILL TWO. I BELIEVE IN THE E-MAIL COUNCIL RECEIVED, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL FROM POINT TO POINT AND THE ENGINEERING TEAM IS HERE TONIGHT TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AS WELL.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE LAURA. >> HEY, LAURA AND ANGIE, CAN YOU GO BACK TWO SLIDES. I WANT TO SEE THE STREET AND ABSORB THIS JUST A LITTLE BIT. JUST TO -- I THINK IT WAS THE STREET, THE SLIDE AFTER THIS LAURA.

ASPHALT STREET. >> YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SEE. IT'S JUST AMAZING HOW BAD A SHAPE WE'RE IN IN SO MANY STREETS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE THAT. >> SO THE IMPORTANT MILESTONES AND DATES JUST TO KEEP COUNCIL ABREAST OF WHERE WE ARE.

IF WE DO NOT COME TO CONSENSUS TONIGHT, WE WILL HAVE A POSSIBLE WORK SESSION TO DISCUSS THE 2021 BOND PROGRAM ON JANUARY 21ST.

AT THE FEBRUARY 2ND MEETING, WE WILL NEED TO REVIEW THE LANGUAGE FOR THE 2021 BOND PROPOSITION AND THEN CALL FOR THE SPECIAL ELECTION. THERE ARE CERTAIN NUMBER OF DAYS IN THERE THAT HAS TO HAPPEN BEFORE THE ELECTION.

WE WOULD DO THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH, COMMUNITY EDUCATION, THAT WOULD HAPPEN ALL THROUGHOUT THE END OF FEBRUARY, MARCH AND APRIL. DREW IS IN THE PROCESS OF COMING UP WITH OUR NEW BOND LOGO NOW TO TIE IN THE PROJECTS.

ELECTION DAY IS MAY FIRST. AND THEN THE ISSUANCE OF THE BONDS WOULD HAPPEN. IT'S TYPICALLY SUMMER.

SO AUGUST OF 2021. AND I THINK THE NEXT SLIDE SAYS HAPPY TO ANSWER. TONIGHT'S GOAL, SO STAFF IS SEEKING DIRECTION ON THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS.

IS THERE CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL TO ACCEPT THE $40 MILLION CIAB PROPOSAL AND THAT'S HOW THE PROPOSITIONS WERE BROKEN OUT.

PROPOSITION ONE, B, $5.7 MILLION AND C, $13,136,000? IF NOT, IS THERE CONSENSUS REGARDING THE $50 MILLION PROPOSAL? AND THE SPECIFIC BREAK OUTS FROM THAT. AND THEN IF NOT, WHAT CHANGES WOULD COUNCIL LIKE TO MAKE? LAURA, WENDY AND I WILL KEEP A RUNNING LIST SINCE WE'RE NOT IN A ROOM TO KEEP A WHITE BOARD AND CUT AND PASTE PROJECTS OFF THAT AND TRY TO COME UP WITH A LIST EVERYBODY CAN SEE AT THE END TO SEE WE HAVE CONSENSUS.

IF WE CAN'T COME UP WITH CONS CONSENSUS, WE HAVE A WORK SESSION FOR JANUARY 21ST TO MAKE THE FEBRUARY 2ND DATE. AND I AM HAPPY TO TURN IT OVER TO MY COHORTS TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION ON THE SCREEN TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

DO YOU HAVE A PLAN HOW YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS?

>> MAYOR, I KIND OF DO. WHAT I WOULD LIKE US TO DO TONIGHT. WE HAVE TWO POINTS WE CAN START WITH. WE CAN GO START WITH THE CIAB RECOMMENDATION AND THEN GO FROM THERE OR GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE LIST ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WERE RATED.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO PULL IT DOWN JUST FOR A SECOND LAURA IF YOU

DON'T MIND. >> I THINK WE SHOULD START WITH THE CIAB RECOMMENDATION. MAYBE START AT THE $50.01.

NOT THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO $50 MILLION, BUT THAT HAS MORE OF THEIR PROJECTS THEY PRIORITIZED AND GO THROUGH THAT AND THEN GO TO THE ENTIRE LIST TO THE EXTENT PEOPLE HAVE PRIORITIES THAT ARE NOT ON THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

BUT I LOOK TO COUNCIL TO SEE IF THEY'RE OKAY WITH THAT APPROACH? I'M SEEING HEADS DO THIS. LAURA, YOU MAY WANT TO BRING UP THE SLIDE AND WE CAN START WITH WHATEVER NUMBER IT WAS.

THE $50 MILLION LIST. >> RIGHT THERE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> ARE THESE LISTED IN PRIORITY ORDER?

I APOLOGIZE IF YOU SAID THAT. >> BY PROJECT SCORE.

THESE LISTS ARE BY PROJECT SCORE.

SO, THE TOP PROJECT BEING 7.15. YOU CAN SEE LAURA JIGGLING THE ARROW BY IT. THEY ARE RANKED BY PROJECT SCORE. YES.

>> LET ME ASK A DIFFERENT WAY. WHAT ON THIS LIST IS NOT IN THE

$40 MILLION RECOMMENDATION? >> LET ME MAKE SURE.

I HAVE THIS CORRECT. >> ANGIE, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO

ANSWER THAT? >> LET ME PULL UP THE STAFF

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REPORT REAL QUICK. YEAH, THAT'S FINE BRIAN.

>> THE ITEMS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE EITHER REPRESENT AN INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT RECOMMENDED FROM THE $40 MILLION OR A NEW ITEM FROM, THAT WASN'T ON THE 40 MILLION. TRY TO PULL UP THE 40 MILLION.

I WONDERED IF THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS.

>> IT'S ALSO BROKEN OUT IN THE PACKET I WAS GOING TO PULL UP.

SO WE DOUBLED MELTZER, THE SIDEWALK PROJECT WAS NOT

40 >> SCRUGGS.

>> OUR COMMUNITY PARK. >> MELSER, ISAAC SCRUGGS,

COMMUNITY PARK. >> AND ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE CONCRETE PAVEMENT FOR THE PARK.

>> OKAY. ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE PARK DOUBLED THAT AMOUNT. COUNCIL, DO YOU WANT TO GO LINE BY LINE OR BRING UP PROJECTS YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ON THIS LIST?

WE WILL START THERE. >> UP TO YOU ALL.

CAN DO EITHER WAY. >> LET'S JUST THROW IT OPEN.

I CAN'T SEE EVERYBODY AND THE SPREADSHEET.

SO, LET'S JUST THROW UP FOR QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERN, SUPPORT FOR THE LIST. ANYTHING YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

I CANNOT SEE YOUR HANDS RAISED SO JUST SPEAK.

>> MAYOR, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, AND IT HAS TO DO ACTUALLY WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES AND SO, THE FIRST ONE THAT I WOULD ASK ABOUT, I KNOW WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CAPTURE SOME CDBG FUNDS FOR ISAAC SCRUGGS.

IS THAT A POSSIBILITY FOR THAT PROJECT?

>> I WILL JUMP IN THERE AND ANSWER.

ALL THE PARKS PROJECT I AM THE MOST FAMILIAR WITH BECAUSE I DID THESE BEFORE AARON WAS DIRECTOR. IT'S POSSIBLE, YES, WE CAN ALWAYS USE CDBG FUNDS AT ISAAC SCRUGGS.

THIS PROJECT DIDN'T MAKE THE LIST PRIOR TO RECEIVING THE ADDITIONAL MONEY THAT WE RECEIVED JUST RECENTLY, THE $25,000. THIS IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AND WE TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY LEFT OVER OUT OF CDBG MONEY TO WORK ON PARKS. SO THIS $400,000 WOULD GET US IRRIGATION IN THE PARK WHICH IS MUCH NEEDED.

ESPECIALLY IN SOME OF THE OPEN AREAS.

IT IS ONE OF THE ONLY PARKS LEFT, AND AARON WILL KNOW FOR SURE THAT DOESN'T HAVE PARK SIGNAGE.

WE NEED ADDITIONAL FENCING ALONG THE ALLEY AND STILL THE POSSIBILITY TO PUT IN THE BMX PUMP TRACK THAT I WOULD LOVE TO DO. BUT, TYPICALLY FOR PARKS WE HAVE LITTLE AMOUNTS OF MONEY WITH CDBG, THIS YEAR WE GOT $35,000 SPLIT BETWEEN TWO PARKS AND THIS IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO DO SUPER COOL IMPROVEMENTS IN PARKS IN ONE FAIL SWOOP.

>> I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MELCER IMPROVEMENTS.

IT TALKS ABOUT THE INCREASED TRAFFIC FROM THE APARTMENTS.

I WONDER IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITY ONCE AGAIN YOU KNOW TO HAVE THE DEVELOPER PARTICIPATE IN SOME OF THAT COST?

>> I WILL TURN THAT OVER TO GARY.

THERE HE IS. >> YES.

I AM HERE. THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION IF MANAL IS ON HERE. REPLACE THE CONCRETE DOWN THE MIDDLE. THIS PROJECT REQUEST WOULD BE FOR ROWLETT ROAD TO THE NEW CONSTRUCTION.

SO, IF MANAL OR JEFF ARE LISTENING, I THINK THAT MONEY WENT TOWARD STREET PARKING. I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER ON THAT.

>> GOT YOU. >> MELCER AND EAST INDUSTRIAL, I SEE YOUR HAND UP BLAKE, I WILL CALL ON YOU NEXT.

I KIND OF HAVE THE SAME COMMENTS, QUESTIONS OF YOU KNOW WE PUT IN A TERS IN DOWNTOWN BEFORE INFRASTRUCTURE AND BOTH OF THOSE ROADS WOULD QUALIFY IN THAT TERS DISTRICT.

>> RIGHT. SO, I WOULD BE CURIOUS ALSO WHAT

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IS THE PCI OF MELCER AND INDUSTRIAL COMPARED TO SOME OF THE STREETS THAT ARE NOT ON THIS LIST?

>> I KNOW INDUSTRIAL IS PROBABLY RANKED THE LOWER AND MELCER,

JOHN CAN SHARE THAT NUMBER. >> YEAH, I DON'T WANT TO USE BOND MONEYS AND WE HAVE OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDS.

>> TERS ONLY HAS $13,000 IN IT RIGHT NOW.

>> YES, BUT IT IS A SOURCE OF FUNDS FOR FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE OUTSIDE OF THE BOND POSSIBILITIES.

SO I'M NOT SAYING THE MONEY IS THERE NOW, I'M SAYING THERE IS A FUNDING SOURCE THAT COULD GET DEDICATED TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. MANAL IS GOING TO JUMP ON.

MELCER IS A 32 PCI. >> WE HAD A LOT LOWER THAN THAT.

>> YEAH, INDUSTRIAL, NOW IT IS IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE.

I DON'T RECALL MELCER BEING IN THAT BAD OF CONDITION.

IT DOESN'T HAVE YOU KNOW THE UPGRADES AS FAR AS THE BOULEVARD STYLE SIDEWALKS AND LANDSCAPING. BUT, THE ROAD ITSELF, I DON'T

REMEMBER IT BEING TOO BAD. >> IT'S NOT.

I MEAN IT IS BUT IT'S NOT. I JUST DROVE IT TODAY.

>> IN COMPARISON. IN COMPARISON.

IT'S ALL -- >> INDUSTRIAL, THE ASPHALT

SECTION IS A 2. >> YEAH, IT'S BAD.

MANAL SAID SAY WITH FILLING UP RIGHT NOW, THEY DID PANEL REPLACEMENT WITH THEIR IMPACT FEES IN ADDITION TO WHAT GARY MENTIONED. THAT PROBABLY, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND DO THAT NOW. WITH FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, IT CAN ALWAYS BE A PART OF THE AGREEMENT.

>> YEAH, I HATE THAT WE'RE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND I KNOW AT LEAST MATT AND I HAVE BEEN HAMMERING ON LET'S GET THESE DEVELOPERS TO PARTICIPATE IN SOME OF THESE ENHANCEMENTS THAT ARE AROUND THEIR DEVELOPMENT FOR YEARS.

I MEAN WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT EVER SINCE WE STARTED DOING THE PLAN FOR THE HERFORTH PARK.

I DON'T KNOW WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR NEGOTIATING THIS WITH THE DEVELOPERS ON THE FRONT END. IT'S JUST DISAPPOINTING TO ME WE GET SO LITTLE FROM THEM AND WE ONLY TALK ABOUT IT WHEN IT'S TOO

LATE TO GO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. >> IN THE CASE OF DEVELOPMENT, THEY MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF OUR CODE, AND PAID THE IMPACT FEES. THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR SPECIAL INCENTIVES AND DIDN'T HAVE A REZONING.

SO, IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH OUR BASE CODE. TOTAL AGREE WITH YOU.

WE HAVE BEEN HOUNDING YOU KNOW STAFF ON THIS ISSUE FOR YEARS.

BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU COULD HAVE HAD ANY LEVERAGE TO DO ANYTHING ELSE WITH THIS DEVELOPER BECAUSE THEY MET

EVERYTHING WITHIN OUR CODE. >> I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MAYOR. REALLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS JUST TALKING TO THEM AND SEEING IF WE CAN GET SOME PARTICIPATION AND SAY, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DO THIS, BUT, IF YOU WOULD PARTICIPATE WITH US, THIS MIGHT MOVE THIS UP ON A LIST OF IMPROVEMENTS. THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE CITY BUT ALSO YOUR DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

>> AND MAYOR, WE DID HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THIS DEVELOPER. I WAS HOPING TO GET MANAL ON.

WE TALKED ABOUT MELCER AND I THINK WHERE WE ENDED UP WITH SINCE THEY WERE PAYING THE IMPACT FEES, YOU KNOW, THAT IS GENERALLY OUR ABILITY TO EXTRACT FUNDING AND RESOURCES ON OUR IMPACT LIST. THE PROBLEM IS, THEY WEREN'T WILLING JUST TO DO IT. TO SAY YES, WE WILL BE GLAD TO DO THAT. AND MOST DEVELOPERS ARE WILLING TO DO THEIR SECTION. YOU KNOW WHAT IS IN FRONT OF THEIR DEAL OR EVEN MAYBE CLOSE BY BUT NOT WILLING TO DO AN ENTIRE ROAD. WE FACED THAT IN OTHER CONVERSATIONS. MANAL, ARE YOU ON.

>> IF THE PCI IS BELOW 80, THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO REPLACE THE WHOLE ROAD. THAT'S WHY THEY DID THE PANEL REPLACEMENTS WHERE THEY PUT THE STORM LINE IN.

>> MANAL, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT ON MELCER AND

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MARTHA WAS ASKING WHAT KIND OF DISCRETION DID WE HAVE WITH THE DEVELOPER PARTICIPATING IN THE COSTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT?

>> ONE OF PRIMARY ELEMENTS OR CONDITIONS WE REQUIRE IS A TIA.

IF THE TIA SHOWS THERE'S ENOUGH IMPACT ON THE ROADWAYS THAT WILL WARRANT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, THAT'S ONE OF CONDITIONS, THEN USE ABSOLUTELY. THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION WOULD BE WARRANTED. THE SECOND IS EXPANSION THAT GARY MENTIONED AND THEY DID NOT QUALIFY.

THE IMPROVEMENTS. WE TOLD THEM THIS IS FRONTAGE ON YOUR PROPERTY AND WE WOULD BE HAPPY IF YOU WOULD UPDATE THE FRONTAGE. THEY WANTED PARTICIPATION ABOVE AND BEYOND WHERE WE FIT IF AND THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PAY IMPACT FEES. WE MENTIONED THE TERS IN THE FUTURE AND FACILITY THAT WAS TOO OUT.

THAT WAS TOO FAR OUT IN THE FUTURE FROM A FORECASTING PERSPECTIVE. THE PANEL IMPROVEMENTS THEY DID GO ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THEY WERE REQUIRED TO DO.

THEY WERE ONLY REQUIRED TO DO THE INDENTATIONS OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY TO ACCOMMODATE THE PARALLEL PAIR.

BECAUSE OF THE WATER LINE STORM LINE THAT GARY MENTIONED, THEY ENDED UP DOING A COUPLE PANELS INSIDE OF JUST THEIR LITTLE FRONTAGE AREAS. I MAY HAVE MISSED SOMETHING.

MELCER IS NOT IN THE $40 MILLION RECOMMENDATION.

>> RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE OR SHOULD I GO

>> >> BLAKE.

>> YES. DO YOU MIND IF WE GO TO THE, WHERE THE 40 MILLION PRESENT -- YEAH, THAT.

I WILL START FROM THE TOP. SO, WELL I GUESS THE ONE THAT'S CLOSER UP WHERE I HAVE QUESTIONS.

WET ZONE IS THE FIRST QUESTION. WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THAT ONE MILLION RENOVATION. WHAT DOES THAT ENTAIL?

>> SO IT'S CONTINUED IMPROVEMENT FOR WET ZONE INCLUDING TIME TO REPAINT THE FACILITY. A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO THE FACILITY WAS AIR BRUSHED. I THINK THAT HAPPENED IN ABOUT '03, '04. IT ORIGINALLY INCLUDED THE NEW SLIDE TOWER FOR HAILEY'S RIPPLE RIDE WHICH WE WERE ABLE TO PAY FOR WITH LEFT OVER BOND DOLLARS LAST YEAR.

IT'S TIME TO RE-DO THE FEATURES IN TURTLE COVE.

WE HAVE FEATURES THAT ARE NO LONGER, THE VALVES DON'T WORK AND IT'S TIME TO REDO. THAT'S THE BABY POOL BASICALLY THAT HAS THE TURTLE IN IT. IT'S TIME TO ALSO REDO A FEW OF THE OTHER BUBBLER FEATURES, THE GIANT MUSHROOM AND SOME OF THE BUBBLER FEATURES THAT THROUGHOUT THE PARK.

SO TO BRING THOSE IN LINE WITH OUR OR JUST NEW PLAY GROUND AND WATER CANNON. THAT WOULD BE THE MAJOR PROJECTS THAT WERE APART OF THAT. NEW SHADE, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET RID OF THE TIKI AND GO BACK TO MORE PERMANENT SHADE STRUCTURES.

WE SPEND OUR TIME AND MAINTENANCE REPAIRING THOSE AND BUYING THE TIKI HUT STUFF AND PUT LARGER SHADE STRUCTURES IN THE GRASS. WE NEVER HAVE ENOUGH SHADE.

>> THANK YOU. YEAH.

ON THIS -- YOU KNOW. >> CAN I COMMENT ON THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE SUBJECTS OR ARE YOU ON WET ZONE?

>> I'M CONCERNED WE'RE BONDING MONEY FOR PAINT.

THAT'S MAINTENANCE. THAT'S NOT IN MY OPINION.

IT'S A PRETTY EXPENSIVE VENTURE BECAUSE IT'S AIR BRUSHED.

THIS PAINT LASTED 19 YEARS. THAT'S JUST ONE OF IMPROVEMENTS AND IT'S PRETTY EXPENSIVE WHY WE PUT IT ON THE PROJECT.

IT ISN'T JUST PAINTING THE OUTSIDE OF THE FACILITY.

IT'S AIR BRUSHED ART ON THE ENTIRE OUTSIDE OF THE FACILITY

TO GO WITH THE JUNGLE THEME. >> I MEAN, I SEE THE WHY SOME OF THESE THINGS NEED TO BE DONE FOR WET ZONE AND HAVE A LITTLE HEART BURN WITH THE $1 MILLION COST. I THINK THERE COULD BE MAYBE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE THAT COST. TO WET ZONE AND THE BONDS TO FREE UP MONEY TO GO TO INFRASTRUCTURE OR PUBLIC SAFETY.

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THAT'S JUST MY OPINION ON THAT. UNTIL ANYBODY ELSE HAS QUESTIONS, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION AS WELL.

>> OKAY. >> I THINK --

>> CAN I COMMENT PLEASE? >> YES, GO AHEAD AARON.

>> A LOT OF FENCING AROUND THE WET ZONE HAS BEEN BANDAIDED.

IT IS IN DIRE NEED OF REPLACEMENT.

WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION REPLACING THE FENCING AROUND WET ZONE. THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WOULD COME INTO PLAY THAT CAN CONTINUE TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM GETTING INSIDE WET ZONE. SO, THAT IS ONE OF THE, ANOTHER ITEM WE HAVE THAT WE HAVE CONSIDER AS WELL.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALSO GOING TO LET'S SEE, THE CHAHA ROAD.

I PERSONALLY DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S IN TOP PRIORITY OR DIRE NEED FOR RECONSTRUCTION GIVEN THE NOT TERRIBLE PCI RATING AND COMPARING OTHER ROADS LIKE LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, CENTURY DRIVE NEXT TO THE POLICE STATION WHERE THE ROAD IS NEARLY IMPASSABLE FOR CERTAIN VEHICLES. SO, YOU KNOW I THINK WHEN YOU COMPARE OTHER ROADS WITH CHAHA, I JUST DON'T THINK CHAHA IS DESERVING OF BEING ON THE 2021 BOND AND I THINK THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAD A HIGHER PRIORITY, THAT'S JUST MY

OPINION. >> SO BLAKE I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO BRING UP, I THINK CHAHA IS ON THE LIST BECAUSE NEEDING TO FIX THE BIG CURVE AND THE QUALITY OF THE ROAD.

WE HAVE GOT SO MANY SAFETY ISSUES OUT THERE ON THE DALROCK AND PRINCETON AREA. THAT WE'RE HAVING A LOT MORE SAFETY ISSUES THAN WE'RE HAVING ON CHAHA.

ONCE THAT GUARD RAIL GOT PUT UP. I'M NOT THINKING IT'S OUR

HIGHEST PRIORITY SAFETY ISSUE. >> YES.

I AGREE. I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE CONSIDER IF WE DIDN'T DO CHAHA, THIS IS JUST ME THROWING OUT SOMETHING FOR Y'ALL TO THINK ABOUT IS INSTEAD OF DOING CHAHA, DOING CENTURY DRIVE. ESPECIALLY HAS A DIRECT ECONOMIC IMPACT GIVEN THE INDUSTRIAL CUSTOMERS THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE. AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL HAVE DRIVEN CENTURY DRIVE, BUT IT'S PRETTY AWFUL.

I WOULDN'T EVEN SAY IT HAS A 2 ON A LEVEL OF RATING OF THE PCI.

I WOULD SAY IT HAS A NEGATIVE TWO.

I MEAN THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE DO.

I THINK THE PHASE ONE WHICH IS CENTURY FOR THE BOND PROJECT, I THINK IT WAS GOING TO BE $2.1 MILLION, GARY IS THAT

CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> YES. TOLER BUSINESS PARK AND PHASE ONE OF THAT WAS CENTURY. WHICH GOES FROM THE POLICE

STATION ALL THE WAY -- >> WE HAVE NEVER SEEN THE REST

OF IT. >> YEAH, 1.8 FOR THE STREETS AND

THE ENGINEERING. >> OH, ONLY $1.8 MILLION FOR THE CENTURY DRIVE? OR JUST THE ENTIRE -- PHASE 1 AND CENTURY DRIVE. PHASE TWO WAS AWNING, BOND AND SINGLETON. THE TOTAL WAS 2.1 FOR ALL THESE.

FOR BOTH PHASES. >> OH, WOW.

SORRY, THAT'S NOT THE NUMBER. THE CONSTRUCTION FOR PHASE ONE.

ANOTHER $2 MILLION FOR CONSTRUCTION FEES TOO.

>> I LIKE THAT DISCUSSION, BLAKE, I THINK WE NEED TO PUT THAT ON THE LIST FOR CONSIDERATION.

>> BLAKE, I AGREE. >> I AGREE.

WHAT ELSE BLAKE? >> SO, YOU KNOW, I'M CONCERNED WITH NOT HAVING A WHAT, I DON'T SEE A NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT ON HERE AND THAT KIND OF CONCERNS ME.

AND GIVEN THE TERRIBLE PCI RATING OF THE FIRST ONE ON THE

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LIST FOR THE PCI IS BOBBY LANE. THAT WAS IN LAKE VIEW MEADOW ESTATES AND THAT IS PRICED AT $3.9 MILLION.

I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE CAN PLAY WITH THE NUMBERS, FUDGE THE NUMBERS AND FIT THIS IN SOMEHOW, I KNOW IT'S POSSIBLE.

BUT I THINK THAT'S, WE HAVE TO DO AT LEAST ONE NEIGHBORHOOD

PROJECT. >> YOU KNOW, PHASE TWO FOR WHATEVER NEIGHBORHOOD HAS ALREADY BEEN ENGINEERED SCHEDULED AT LEAST THEORETICALLY TO BE ON THIS LIST.

I'M GOING TO FIGHT TO PUT THAT BACK ON THE LIST.

BECAUSE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS ENGINEER A NEIGHBORHOOD, DO PHASE ONE. PROMISE THE NEIGHBORS WE'RE GOING TO DO PHASE TWO IN THE NEXT BOND AND THEN NOT COME

THROUGH WITH THAT PROMISE. >> THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

THERE'S A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE LOW PCI, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY BUSINESS STARTING A NEW NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT IF WE

CAN'T FINISH THE OLD ONES. >> I THINK YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

WHAT IS THAT NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT?

>> LAKE LAND HEIGHTS. >> THAT SORT OF LOOKS LIKE.

PW 1. >> HOW MUCH IS THAT?

>> 1.6. I ABSOLUTELY UNEQUIVOCALLY THINK

THAT SHOULD BE ON THE LIST. >> I AGREE WITH YOU MAYOR.

>> I SUPPORT THAT. >> GOT IT.

TOLER ROAD NORTHWEST GET ON THE 50 MILLION?

>> I DIDN'T SEE IT ON EITHER LIST.

I DIDN'T SEE ON EITHER ONE. >> I'M LOOKING AT PDF PRESENTATION FROM THE JOINT MEETING.

I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED. >> I DIDN'T MEAN TO GET US OFF SUBJECT. WHAT ELSE BLAKE.

>> I'M JUST ADD A COUPLE MORE AND GIVE TO THE Y'ALL.

BUT, CONCRETE PANEL REPLACEMENT ALLEY RECONSTRUCTION IN THE $40 MILLION PROJECT RECOMMENDATION.

I DON'T KNOW THAT'S, I THINK THERE WAS ONLY TWO MILLION OR ONE MILLION IN THE CONCRETE PANEL REPLACEMENT AND

RECONSTRUCTION. >> TWO.

>> CAN YOU GO BACK A SLIDE? >> GO BACK TO 40.

>> SORRY BLAKE. >> NO, YOU'RE GOOD.

>> CAN YOU HEAR US? >> DID YOU TAKE A LITTLE BREAK? CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE $40 MILLION LIST.

>> SO YEAH. IT WAS TWO AND TWO.

AND THE CIAB RECOMMENDED NOT. YEAH, I WOULD, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE INCREASE THAT TO THREE AND THREE.

AND ADD ANOTHER MILLION TO THOSE GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE CONCRETE PAYMENT REPLACEMENT. WE HAVE LOTS OF NEEDS EVERYWHERE, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD GET US YOU KNOW CLOSER TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE WITH MAINTAINING OUR CONCRETE ROADS AND THEN THE ALLEY RECONSTRUCTION OBVIOUSLY IS VERY IMPORTANT. AND I THINK PERSONALLY I THINK ADDING A LITTLE MORE TO THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL KEEPING UP US TO PACE WITH KNOCKING OUT ALLEYS.

>> THAT'S THE BRIDGE. THAT'S JUST, THAT'S THE WHAT

PORTION? >> WE RECEIVED A GRANT FROM DALLAS COUNTY. AND SO, REALIZING THAT THIS IS MORE OF A REGIONAL PROJECT, THIS IS NOT JUST ROWLETT.

THIS INCLUDE THE BRIDGE AND THE ENTIRE CAUSEWAY.

>> I KNOW. I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I'M JUST, I'M SORRY, THE WHOLE PROJECT IS OVER $50 MILLION.

I'M ASKING WHAT SPECIFICALLY THE 2.5 WOULD BE DOING FOR US IN THE

NEXT THREE YEARS? >> IT'S GRANT MATCHING SO THAT WE CAN LEVERAGE ADDITIONAL GRANT DOLLARS TO ACTUALLY GET IT TO HAPPEN. AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. I UNDERSTAND IT'S MATCH.

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WHAT SPECIFICALLY, HOW THAT WOULD SPECIFICALLY BENEFIT US ALLOCATING 2.5 MILLION OF THESE BONDS TO THIS PROJECT AT THIS

TIME? >> MAYOR, WE MET WITH DALLAS COUNTY AND AS BRIAN MENTIONED, IT WOULD GET THE COUNTY ALONG.

THE COUNTY OF DALLAS FELT LIKE WE NEEDED CITY OF DALLAS PARTICIPATION. IF THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THE CITY OF ROWLETT TO INVEST, IT WOULD BE MORE APP FOR DALLAS TO PARTICIPATE. THAT WAS THE STRATEGY TO GET AS BRIAN MENTIONED MORE REGIONAL FUNDS AND HELP GET MORE FUNDS

FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS. >> I JUST -- I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED HOW WE'RE GET TO GET $50 MILLION OUT OF CITY OF

DALLAS. >> NO.

IT WOULD BE OUT OF COG, IT WOULD BE OUT OF WHATEVER THE FEDS, MAYBE 80-20 MATCH. WHATEVER SOURCE OF FUNDING THERE WOULD BE. AND THIS IS NOT THE ONLY ONE, MERIT ROAD INTERCONNECTOR IS ANOTHER ONE.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET GRANT DOLLARS MATCHING GRANT DOLLARS TO THE NCIP DOLLARS SO THAT WE HAVE LEVERAGE TO BE ABLE TO GET MORE GRANT HELP BECAUSE EITHER OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE BEYOND OUR REACH IF WE DO IT ONLY ON OUR OWN.

>> YEAH I UNDERSTAND THAT. I UNDERSTAND IN THE LAST BOND THAT WE FUNDED THE ENGINEERING COSTS FOR MERIT INTERCONNECTORS TO HAVE A SHOVEL READY PROJECT TO BE CONSIDERED FOR FUNDING SOURCES. THAT WAS REAL WORK DONE WITH REAL MONEY. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THIS QUESTION AND IF THE MERIT ROAD INTERCONNECTOR IS THE SAME SITUATION WE'RE JUST MATCHING FUNDS.

IS THIS THE BEST WAY TO DO IT AT THIS TIME OR IS THERE ANOTHER WAY TO DO IT BECAUSE WE'LL JUST BE HANGING ON TO THE FUNDS AND SOME KIND OF MATCHING POSSIBILITY FOR ANOTHER YOU KNOW

MANY, MANY YEARS. >> I HAD SIMILAR QUESTIONS MAYOR. MY QUESTION IS, IF WE GET TWO YEARS INTO THE BOND CYCLE AND THE LAST THIRD AND THERE'S NO MOVEMENT ON ANY MATCH, CAN WE RE-ALLOCATE THE MONEYS TO OTHER PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS? WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION AGAIN IN THE NEXT BOND IF WE WERE GOING TO PUT THAT MATCH IN THERE. IF THOSE WERE PURELY A MATCH, I DON'T WANT THOSE MONEYS TO SIT THERE FIVE, SIX YEARS.

THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I COULD GET BEHIND THAT BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY MOVING PIECES IF WE'RE REALLY ABLE TO LEVERAGE THAT AND MAKE AN EFFORT IN THE NEXT 24 MONTHS AND SAY, HEY, OKAY.

THERE'S A REAL CHANCE WE MIGHT GET FUNDING IN THE NEXT BOND ELECTION FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS OR COG FUNDS, I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN THAT IF AT THE END OF THE YEAR WE GO INTO THE THIRD YEAR OF BOND SALE THOSE GET TRANSITIONED TO OTHER

PUBLIC WORK DOLLARS. >> PART OF THE NCIP PROGRAM, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO SPEND THE MONEY BEFORE 2025.

IT WOULDN'T SIT THERE. WE WOULD DO SURVEYS, ENGINEERING, AND START PURCHASING RIGHT-OF-WAY.

DEFINITELY HAVE TO USE THE MONEY OR REASSIGN TO OTHER PROJECTS.

>> AND WE'RE BACK IN THE STAGE WHERE WE'RE PARTIALLY FUNDING A PROJECT WITHOUT FUNDING IN PLACE.

>> AND MAYOR, THAT IS TRUE. ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

AND PART OF IT IS, IT'S REALLY STRATEGY.

IT'S HOW DO WE GET THESE PROJECTS DONE THAT ARE 30, 40, $50 MILLION THROUGH THESE REALLY BIG ONES.

CHISA WAS BETTER. THEY GRANTED THAT MONEY AND ALLOWED US TO CONSIDER THE BONDS WE ISSUED FOR PHASE ONE AND MET OUR MATCH FOR THE GRANT DOLLARS. FOR MILLER AND MERIT, THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE A BOLD STRATEGY TO BE ABLE TO MATCH FUNDS TO GO AFTER BIGGER GRANT DOLLARS.

>> HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONVERSATION THUS FAR WITH COG OR THE REGIONAL PARTNERS WITH THE PROJECT?

>> SO OUR INITIAL STRATEGY WAS TO, WELL, LET ME SAY THIS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST THAT. MOST OF OUR CONVERSATIONS TO DATE HAVE BEEN WITH DALLAS COUNTY.

WE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH REPRESENTATIVES EVEN BEFORE THE CURRENT BOARD ON THE DALLAS COUNTY.

BUT, WE HAVE NOT YET APPLIED FOR COG FUNDS YET ON THE MERIT ROAD

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INTERCONNECTOR, ALTHOUGH WE HAD THE CONVERSATIONS WITH MICHAEL MORRIS AT COG AND NOW I'M A MEMBER, YES TO THE MERIT ROAD INTERCONNECTOR. YEAH, I'M JUST CURIOUS, IF THEY HAD RECOMMENDATIONS ON THIS IS THE BEST ROUTE TO TAKE TO GET SOMETHING FROM US OR IS THERE A BEST PRACTICES FROM OTHER CITIES? OTHER BIG CITIES ABOUT HOW TO HANDLE A PROJECT THIS BIG. YOU KNOW WORKING WITH OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES TO SEE WHAT DO THEY THINK? WHEN IT COMES TO PROJECT LIKE THIS? ASKING COG, HEY, WHO DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD DO TO HAVE THE

BEST LEVERAGE? >> WHAT I DO REMEMBER IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH COG SPECIFICALLY TO MILLER ROAD FOR THIS BRIDGE AND THIS CAUSEWAY IS THAT THIS WOULD TAKE MULTIPLE INVOLVEMENT FROM MULTIPLE SOURCES.

DALLAS COUNTY COG, THE CITY OF ROWLETT, MAYBE THE CITY OF DALLAS AND WHAT HIS RECOMMENDATION AT THAT TIME WAS YOU GOT TO START SOMEWHERE. THAT'S WHY WE APPLIED FOR THE GRANT WITH NCIP THROUGH DALLAS COUNTY TO GET STARTED WITH.

IF WE CAN LEVERAGE THAT WITH OUR MATCH OR SOMEHOW THEN IT MAYBE ABLE TO PROMPT THE OTHER ENTITIES TO PARTICIPATE.

BECAUSE AGAIN THIS IS A PROJECT THAT IS BEYOND ROWLETT AT THIS

TIME. >> YOU SAY OUR MATCH, SPECIFICALLY, WHAT ARE THE RULES FOR OUR MATCH? THAT IT'S APPROVED FUNDING FROM A BOND? THAT IT'S SET ASIDE IN A RESERVED FUND? IT'S A WE'RE GOING TO COMMIT THIS MANY DOLLARS BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING SOURCE YET? WHAT EXACTLY ARE THE RULES?

>> SO, IT'S A 50-50 MATCH ON THE FUNDS.

THE RULES ARE, YOU HAVE TO SPEND IT ON THIS PROJECT BEFORE 2025.

SO, THAT'S ALL I KNOW. 50-50 MATCH.

>> AND IF -- YOU LOSE THE >> CORRECT.

>> OKAY. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE CAN'T GO OUT TO THOSE ISSUE FUNDING SOURCES RIGHT NOW AND UNDERSTAND THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE WANT TO MATCH AND THIS IS THE GRANT WE ALREADY OBTAINED, AND HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT? THERE'S ANOTHER THREE-YEAR BOND OFFERING BEFORE WE LOSE THIS

MATCH. >> SO, WHAT DALLAS COUNTY IS RECOMMENDED IS WE DO EXACTLY THAT.

BUT THAT WE ALSO MATCH THESE BONDS AS WE APPLY FOR OTHER GRANT DOLLARS THROUGH COG OR WHAT OTHER SOURCES WE HAVE.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE GOING BACK TO WHAT MATT WAS ASKING SPECIFICALLY, IF WE WERE TO MATCH THESE FUNDS NOW, AND IF WE GET THOSE, IF WE GET THE ENTIRE PROJECT FUNDED, GREAT.

IF WE DON'T, COULD WE SHIFT THAT TO OTHER NEEDS SUCH AS CONCRETE REPLACEMENT OR SHORT ON ANY STREETS, YES WE CAN DO THAT.

TO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THROUGH DALLAS COUNTY IS THAT WE NEED TO MATCH THESE FUNDS AND FIRST OFF LET ME SAY THIS, IF WE DON'T GET ANY HELP, WE WON'T BE DOING THESE PROJECTS.

WE MAYBE SPENDING MONEY, ENGINEERING AS GARY SAID, DESIGN, RIGHT-OF-WAY AGREEMENT OR WHATEVER, WE DON'T SPEND THE FUNDS WE LOSE IT. WITH THE COMBINED RESOURCES OF ROWLETT BEHIND IT, AND DALLAS COUNTY, WE WOULD HAVE A MUCH BETTER CHANCE AT SECURING ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

BUT IT'S NOT A GUARANTEE. AND IT IS NEARLY THE SAME STRATEGY WE DID ON MERRITT ROAD INTERCONNECTOR WHEN WE DID THE ENGINEERING COSTS IN THE HOPE TO LEVERAGE THAT FOR BIGGER DOLLARS. UNFORTUNATELY WITH THE DALLAS COUNTY, WE ONLY GOT $1.3 MILLION, ISN'T THAT RIGHT,

GARY? >> YES.

SO WHY ARE WE MATCHING 3.2 MILLION?

>> WASN'T THAT A PERCENTAGE ISSUE?

80-20 OR 90? >> YEAH, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT

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MERRITT ROAD AS WELL. BUT LET ME ASK ONE ABOUT THE MILLER ROAD FIRST. IF WE PUSHED THIS $2.56 MILLION TO THE NEXT BOND CYCLE, WOULD WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO SPEND THAT MONEY BEFORE WE HIT THE DEADLINE IN 2025?

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY TO SPEND IN THAT SHORT OF TIME ENGINEERING.

THE DESIGN TAKES SO LONG. I DON'T KNOW WE IDENTIFIED ANY PARCELS OR YOU START OFF WITH THE SURVEY.

SO I DON'T THINK YOU COULD. >> OKAY.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT MERRITT.

SINCE WE HAVE SPENT MONEY OUT OF THE 2018 BOND ON THAT FOR ENGINEERING, DOES ANY OF THAT COUNT TOWARD THE MATCH?

>> THAT YOU'RE SEEKING? >> NO.

WHAT WE SPENT WAS THE MATCH FROM OF THE PREVIOUS BOND.

>> OH. >> THE -- SO WE'RE GOING

SECOND MATCH? >> CORRECT.

>> BUT I WANT MY QUESTION ANSWERED.

MATCH OF WHAT? >> YEAH.

>> TIM IS ON THE CALL AND DID THE APPLICATION.

TIM WOULD YOU PLEASE CLARIFY? HE'S OFF MUTE.

>> HE MIGHT BE MUTED. >> LOOKS LIKE HE'S OFF MUTE.

>> IS HIS MOUTH MOVING? >> HE DOESN'T HAVE HIS CAMERA

ON. >> THAT MEANS HE'S NOT THERE.

>> HE'S IN HIS OFFICE SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO ME.

>> CALL HIM OVER TO YOU. >> TELL HIM TO GET HIS MASK ON AND GET OVER THERE. I DO NOT WANT TO IMPAIR OUR ABILITY TO DO THE MILLER ROAD BRIDGE.

DON'T MISUNDERSTAND ME. I DON'T WANT OUR TO IMPAIR OUR ABILITY TO POTENTIALLY TO THE MERRITT INTERCONNECTOR.

I'M TRYING TO EXPLORE IF THERE'S A WAY TO GET MATCHING FUNDS OTHER THAN PRESERVING ALMOST $6 MILLION OF THIS BOND WHEN WE

HAVE SUCH GREAT NEEDS RIGHT NOW >> YEAH.

I LOOK AT IT AS WHICH ONE IS MORE FEASIBLE AND BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO NEED BIG COG DOLLARS TO GET THESE DONE.

THAT ONE HAS BEEN ON THEIR RADAR LONGER.

I THINK THAT ONE HAD SUPPORT. THEY'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT THAT CORRIDOR IN THE LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN FOR ANOTHER NORTH, SOUTH CONNECTER. TO ME, THERE'S JUST MORE, I COULD GET BEHIND BECAUSE THERE'S A BETTING ODDS.

THE ODDS ARE BETTER ON THAT ONE. WHERE THAT SHORT STRETCH OF ROAD EVEN THOUGH IT'S SO, SO NEEDED, IS JUST OUR ROWLETT RESIDENTS THAT ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT AND TRYING TO CUT THROUGH ROWLETT ARE TRYING TO COMPLAIN. THAT'S JUST A HARDER SELL BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON A LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

AND SO WHEN I LOOK AT IT THAT WAY IN TERMS OF WHERE WE HAVE TO MAKE HARD CHOICES, THAT'S WHAT I START LOOKING AT.

>> I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT, MATT, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY, IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO COMMIT FUNDS IN ANOTHER MANNER FOR OUR MATCH SO WE CAN SPEND A COUPLE YEARS GOING OUT THERE AND TRYING TO GET YOU KNOW SEE WHERE WE CAN GET ON MILLER ROAD.

AS OPPOSED TO ALLOCATING $2.6 MILLION.

>> MAYOR, I THINK YOU DO HAVE AN OPTION HERE.

HERE'S WHAT I WOULD SAY. WE CURRENTLY ARE AND I WANT TO SAY LOCKING OURSELVES BUT IT'S AN INTENTIONAL STRATEGY INTO THE THREE YEAR CYCLE. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, AS GARY MENTIONED, OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO SPEND THESE BONDS BY 2025.

SO, IF INSTEAD WE SAID THAT YOU KNOW WE DON'T WANT TO PUT IT ON THIS BOND CYCLE, ONE POTENTIAL OPTION YOU HAVE IS THAT, WE COULD A LITTLE MORE RISKY BUT MORE JUST IN TIME FINANCING SO TO SPEAK, IS THAT WE COMMIT TO IT, WE GO OUT AND GET SECURE FUNDS AND THEN MAYBE WE WHAT DOE IS A TAX NOTE OR SOMETHING ELSE, A SHORT TERM JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE PLENTY OF FLEXIBILITY FOR TAX NOTE AND THEN YOU LOCK IN THE LONG-TERM GO BOND FINANCING, THE VERY NEXT AVAILABLE ELECTION.

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YOU MIGHT HAVE THAT ELECTION YOU KNOW LESS THAN THAT THREE YEAR

TIME CYCLE. >> YEAH.

YOU KNOW, GOING TO THE PUBLIC SAYING WE'RE GOING TO PUT MILLER ROAD BRIDGE ON THE BOND OFFERING.

WAIT IT'S ONLY $2.5 MILLION AND MONEY WE'RE GOING TO STAY OUT THERE FOR THREE YEARS IN CASE WE GET OTHER FUNDS UP TO $50 MILLION. IT'S A HARD SELL.

>> I'M NOT GOING TO SAY WE HAVEN'T STRUGGLED WITH THAT AS WELL. BECAUSE IT COMMITS FUNDS THAT THROUGH PROJECTS WE DON'T KNOW IF WE WILL GET SECURED IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS, AT THE SAME TIME WE DO KNOW THAT THE ATTEMPT NEEDS TO BE MADE TO BE ABLE TO GET THE LARGER GRANT DOLLARS REGIONAL MONEY. YOU KNOW, THAT CAN HELP.

>> I JUST THINK THERE'S ANOTHER WAY WE GO OUT THERE AND GET THE

REGIONAL MONEY. >> OKAY.

>> THEN PRESERVING THIS MONEY OUT OF A BOND.

>> SO. YOUR IDEA, BRIAN WAS TO DO SAY THAT AGAIN. ONE MORE TIME.

>> SO, MAYBE WHAT WE DO INSTEAD IS RATHER THAN FUNDING IT TODAY, WHAT WE DO IS COMMIT TO IT. WE GO AND APPLY FOR YOU KNOW COMPOUNDS AND FEDERAL DOLLARS HOWEVER WE NEED TO DO TO BE ABLE TO SECURE AN ADDITIONAL FUNDS. AND IF WE'RE ABLE TO SECURE THE GRANT, THEN AND WE GET CAUGHT WHERE WE HAVE TO DO IT IN A, WE CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT ELECTION BECAUSE WE NEED TO START WITH IT NOW, WE ISSUE A TAX NOTE IN THAT YEAR.

WE ISSUE A TAX NOTE TO SUPPORT WHATEVER OUR PORTION IS AND THE NEXT AVAILABLE OPPORTUNITY WE LOCK THAT INTO THE LONGER TERM

20 YEAR DOLLARS. >> BASICALLY IT'S JUST, IT'S A FINANCING VEHICLE ONLY. THAT ALLOWS US TO NOT HAVE TO LOCK INTO DOLLARS THAT WE DON'T HAVE FOR THE BIGGER GRANTS TODAY. BUT IT IS ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT THAT MAY HAVE TO BE THE SOURCE WE WOULD HAVE TO USE BECAUSE WE MAY GET THE FUNDING IN BETWEEN GRANTS OR IN BETWEEN BOND

CYCLES. >> THE THING WITH THE PROJECT IS, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE. IT'S A $50 MILLION PROJECT AND HAS TO BE DONE AT THE SAME TIME. IT'S NOT AN ISSUE IF WE NEED $2.6 MILLION. WE NEED $50 MILLION.

THE ROWLETT PORTION IS GOING TO BE A LOT HIGHER THAN $2.5 MILLION EVEN IF WE GET SIGNIFICANT COG HELP.

DALLAS HELP, FEDERAL HELP. I WOULD BE SHOCKED IF WE COULD GET $50 MILLION FROM THOSE SOURCES.

THEN WE HAVE TO GO TO THE VOTERS AND SAY, DO YOU WANT TO DO THIS OR NOT? AND IT'S GOING TO BE MORE THAN A $2.5 MILLION TAX NOTE AS A QUICK FIX.

BUT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA HOW TO EVEN GO TO OUR TAXPAYERS AND SAY, ARE YOU WILLING TO RESERVE THIS MONEY FOR THIS PROCESS?

>> WELL, I DO WANT TO SAY THIS IS NOT AN UNCOMMON PRACTICE.

OTHER CITIES DO IT TOO. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT DOES TIE UP A LOT OF RESOURCES. WE HAD $100 MILLION BOND ISSUE WE PROBABLY DON'T BLINK AT DOING IT.

WHEN WE HAVE $40 MILLION AND WE JUST DONE A $60 MILLION PROM AND WE KNOW WE HAVE MORE NEEDS THAN 40S, THIS IS A DIFFICULT, DIFFICULT DISCUSSION. I DO WANT TO ASK GARY, GARY IN OUR CONVERSATION, YOU PROBABLY GOT THAT FROM TIM AT THE TIME.

IN OUR CONVERSATION, I THOUGHT I RECALLED THAT WE WERE THINKING THAT ONE OF THESE PROGRAMS PROBABLY WOULD BE AN 80-20 PROJECT. MATCHING PROJECT AND THE OTHER MIGHT BE 90-10. AM I RECALLING RIGHT?

>> I DO RECALL THE CONVERSATION. I DON'T HAVE MY NOTES ON THAT.

THAT'S BEEN A WHILE. >> I WAS THINKING AT LEAST ON ONE OF THESE THAT WE WERE THINKING THAT WOULD BE OUR MATCH. IF WE GOT FUNDING FOR IT.

ON THE OTHER ONE, WE MIGHT STILL, MAYBE THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

MILLER ROAD SHOWS AN ADDITIONAL $2,000,560.

IF WE SECURED FUNDING FOR THE REST OF IT, THAT

COMMITMENT. >> CORRECT.

>> SO WHAT IS THE 3.2 M MILLION MATCHING?

>> OR IS IT JUST FUNDING HALF OF HAD-

>> 80-20, 90-10. >> BRIAN, IF I COULD HELP, I

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REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION. YOU EXPECTED ROWLETT'S SHARE TO

BE 10%. >> A 90-10 MATCH THEN.

>> THE IDEA THERE WAS TO SHOW THE COUNTY AUTHORITIES THAT ROWLETT DID INTEND TO CARRY THROUGH THIS PROJECT RATHER THAN GOING HAT AND HAND WITH NO MONEY IN OUR POCKETS ASKING FOR THEIR

MONEY. >> I CAN GET BEHIND THAT ONE.

I STILL THINK THAT HAS MORE LEGS SO TO SPEAK.

YOU KNOW I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR. I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A BIGGER PLAN ON MILLER ROAD. I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING TO GET SHOE HORNED INTO A CORNER. I WOULD HATE TO GIVE AWAY $2.6 MILLION BUT HATE TO SPEND $5 MILLION ON A PROJECT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN FOR 20 YEARS AFTER THAT BECAUSE THERE'S NO SUPPORT FOR IT. TO ME, THAT NEEDS A LOT MORE CONVERSATION AT ALL THE LEVELS AND FIND OUT, WHAT ARE REAL POSSIBILITIES AND MAYBE IN THREE YEARS, YOU KNOW WE DON'T HAVE TO BUILD ANOTHER FIRE SAN DIEGO STATE AND GO TO THE VOTERS AND SAY, WE NEED $10 MILLION TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND WE ALREADY HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS AND SEE IF THEY THINK IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO INVEST $10 MILLION ON THAT STRETCH OF A BRIDGE.

TO ME PERSONALLY, THAT MONEY COULD BE BETTER SPENT ELSEWHERE

THIS PARTICULAR BOND CYCLE. >> I ALSO WOULDN'T RULE OUT THE IDEA THAT BRIAN HAD ABOUT COMMITTING IT AND THEN IF WE HAD TO COVER IT WE WOULD JUST DO IT THROUGH A TAX NOTE.

>> OH, I THINK WE MOVE FORWARD WE'RE COMMITTING TO IT, BLAKE AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES ARE.

BUT I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T SUPPORT ALLOCATING BONDS TO IT RIGHT NOW. MAYOR, IS THAT EITHER PROJECT OR

JUST TO MILLER ROAD? >> SAY AGAIN.

>> WOULD THAT BE TO BOTH MILLER ROAD THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSION, BOTH FOR MILLER ROAD AND MERRITT OR JUST MILLER ROAD?

>> >> WE'RE ALL GOING TO VOTE ON

ALL OF THIS. >> I KNOW, I WAS TRYING TO GET

YOUR -- >> I COULD SUPPORT LEAVING THE 3.2 FOR MERRITT, ALTHOUGH I WISH WE HAD A DIFFERENT WAY TO DO IT.

I HOPE THAT'S IN YEAR THREE, NOT YEAR ONE OR TWO.

>> YEAH, BUT THE EASIER THING WITH THE MERRITT IS, THAT'S A PURE MATCH TO TRY TO GET OTHER THINGS DONE.

I KNOW THERE'S OTHER MATCHING DOLLARS IN THERE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE SPENT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE PUT INTO A CORNER TO SPEND THAT MONEY, CORRECT? BECAUSE THAT'S MORE OF LEVERAGE TO TRY TO GET FUNDING FROM OTHER PLACES. AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT

CORRECTLY? >> IT'S A GOOD POINT, MATT.

WHAT GARY SAID WAS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

IN ORDER TO ULTIMATELY TO EARN THE GRANT THAT WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN AWARDED, WE HAVE TO SPEND OUR MATCH TO DO THAT.

BUT, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO SPEND IT TODAY.

SO, IF WE SPEND THE NEXT 18 MONTHS USING THAT AS LEVERAGE TO SECURE ADDITIONAL FUNDING, WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND THOSE DOLLARS TODAY BUT WE STILL HAVE IT IN OUR BACK POCKET FOR HOWEVER WE FUND IT DURING THAT TIME.

IF FOR SOME REASON, IT COMES BACK THAT YEAH, THE ANSWER IS YES BUT WE CAN'T FUND FOR FIVE OR SIX MORE YEARS, THEN, WE FREE UP THE FUNDS TO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH IT.

>> SO, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS.

SO, WE HAVE ALREADY SUNK MONEY INTO THE MERRITT INTERCONNECTOR.

WHY ARE WE NOT GOING TO PARTNERS AND SAY WE ARE COMMITTED TO MERRITT INTERCONNECTER, CAN YOU OFFER ANYTHING?

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? >> YEAH WE DID, BLAKE, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, WE HAD APPROACHED NTTA ALSO WITH PARTICIPATING.

THEY WERE A COUPLE OTHER DISCUSSIONS WE WERE HAVING WITH THEM. BETWEEN THEM AND THE DISCUSSION CAN COG, THE SUGGESTION IS WE START WITH THE DALLAS COUNTY NCIP PROCESS WHICH GAVE US INITIAL LEVERAGE AND THAT'S WHY WE ENDED UP WITH, THE NUMBER, ONE POINT, THE SLIDE IS STILL UP

HERE. >> 1.33 MILLION.

FOR THAT FUNDING. UNDERSTAND WE WANTED MORE BUT THAT'S WHAT WE GOT INITIAL FUNDING FROM.

NOW WE WOULD GO TO COG AND SAY, WE HAVE DALLAS COUNTY PARTICIPATING, WE'RE PARTICIPATING, NOW CAN YOU WORK

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WITH US? >> SO SINCE THE REQUESTED AMOUNT

OF 1.3 AND THE CIAB WAS 3.2. >> THAT WAS BECAUSE THE QUESTION ASKED AT THE CIAB MEETING WAS WHAT IS OUR ULTIMATE MATCH? I BELIEVE THAT'S WHERE WE CAME UP WITH THE KIND OF GRANT WE WOULD GO ON THIS WOULD BE A 90-10 MATCH.

SO 10% WOULD BE $3.2 MILLION. >> YEAH, AND LET ME ASK A QUESTION REGARDING THE MERRITT ROAD INTERCONNECTOR AS WELL.

AND Y'ALL PROBABLY EXPLAINED THIS BEFORE, BUT, SO I APOLOGIZE AHEAD OF TIME IF YOU HAVE. BUT I KNOW THAT WITH THE 2015 BOND, WE ALLOCATED $1.5 MILLION FOR ENGINEERING.

WHICH AT THAT TIME WAS 10% OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT THEY HAD ESTIMATED THE COST WOULD BE. I THINK WE HAVE HAD SOME INCREASES IN THAT. I'M KIND OF SURPRISED IT'S DOUBLE. BUT, IT WAS A $15 MILLION PROJECT AT THAT TIME AND WE ALLOCATED $1.5 MILLION THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO COVER THE ENGINEERING AND THEN I WAS NOTICING ON THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION THAT WAS SENT ON THE BOND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE AT 60% ON THE DESIGN.

SO, MAYBE IF Y'ALL COULD KIND OF EXPLAIN ALL OF THAT TO ME OF WHERE WE'RE, HOW WE WERE THERE IN 2015 AND HOW WE GOT TO WHERE

WE ARE NOW FOR 2021. >>

>> COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND UNFORTUNATELY, I WASN'T HERE AT THE TIME.

I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME.

I WILL GET THAT INFORMATION. I DON'T KNOW IF THE BRIDGE DESIGN CAUSED THE FUNDING TO GO UP.

SOMEONE WAS HERE AT THAT TIME, TOM, MAYBE HAVE BACKGROUND ON IT? COULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION, I WILL RESEARCH THAT AS WE CONTINUE TO TALK.

SEE IF I CAN ANSWER QUESTION.

>> OR GARY. >> ALL RIGHT.

SO, AT THAT TIME, IF YOU WILL REMEMBER GUYS, WE DID NOT HAVE A DESIGN. WE HAD I BELIEVE IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, FOUR OPTIONS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT HOW TO CROSS THE CREEK. ONE OF THOSE WAS DO WE JUST REBUILD CHISA? DO WE CUT ACROSS? GO UP AND OVER? SO I THINK WHEN WE ENDED UP WITH THE ENGINEERING OR DESIGN CONTRACT PART OF IT WAS TO HAVE THEM HELP US FIGURE OUT WHAT THE COST WOULD BE YOU KNOW, UNDER THE VARIOUS OPTIONS. THE CITY COUNCIL ULTIMATELY CHOSE ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS AND, I MEAN I KNOW WHICH ONE, I JUST DON'T REMEMBER ONE, TWO, THREE OR FOUR.

BUT I THINK ONCE THAT HAPPENED, WE WENT INTO THE HARD DESIGN PHASE AND THEN STARTED LOOKING AT THE FEATURES IF YOU WILL REMEMBER MARTHA, BIKE LANES OR DECORATIVE FEATURES.

AND I THINK THEY WERE ABLE TO START TO TIE DOWN THE REAL COSTS A LOT BETTER. I THINK AT ONE TIME, THE $15 MILLION WAS NOT BASED ON THE SPECIFIC OPTION AND IT MAY HAVE BEEN BASED ON ONE WAS OPTIONS VERSUS THE OTHERS.

ULTIMATELY, COUNCIL GOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE OPTION, WHERE CHISA HITS LIBERTY GROVE AND GOES DUE WEST UNTIL WE HIT MERRITT ROAD. SO, WHAT I WILL JUST SAY IS THAT, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT WAS NOT UNEXPECTED.

BUT, WITH ALL THE OTHER STUFF THAT THEY HAD TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TELLING US TODAY THIS PROJECT WOULD COST. WITH THAT BRIDGE STRUCTURE AND THAT ROADWAY, INCLUDING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY TO ACQUIRE THE PERMITS AND EVERYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO DO.

>> YEAH. I DO BELIEVE THAT I REMEMBER THE FOUR OPTIONS WE HAD. AND TO THE BEST OF MY RECOMMENDATION, COUNCIL HAD ALREADY SELECTED AN OPTION WHEN WE ALLOCATED FUNDS IN THE BOND FOR THE PROJECT.

TO YOUR POINT, BRIAN, WE HAD NOT SELECTED THE DESIGN FEATURES BUT THE ENGINEERING WAS BASED ON COUNCIL'S SELECTION OF THE CONFIGURATION FOR THAT BRIDGE, THE COUNCIL HAD ALREADY SELECTED

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THE ONE OUT OF FOUR. >> SO, JUST --

>> I WOULD DISPUTE DISCUSSION THAT DECISIONMAKING SUBSEQUENT TO THIS CAUSED THIS TO INCREASE TO THIS LEVEL.

THERE'S NO WAY. SO.

>> I'M NOT SAYING THAT. ALL I'M SAYING IS, GOING BACK TO PROBABLY SOME OF OUR EARLIEST ESTIMATES, I JUST KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN QUITE A BIT OF ANALYSIS THAT HAS BEEN DONE.

WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT TODAY I WOULD HAVE MORE CONFIDENCE OF WHAT IT COSTS AND WHAT WE WOULD HAVE LOOKED AT WHEN WE FIRST STARTED INVISIONING THIS PROJECT SIX YEARS AGO.

>> JUST PERSONALLY SPEAKING, JUST AS AN OPINION TO PUT IN.

I THINK THAT I WOULD PERSONALLY WHEN IT CAME DOWN TO IT, PUT MONEY INTO MILLER THAN MERRITT INTERCONNECTOR GIVEN WE HAVE PUT MONEY INTO MERRITT INTERCONNECTOR SOME SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO SAY WE'RE INVESTED IN THE PROJECT AS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING INVESTED IN MILLER ROAD WHICH IS IN MY OPINION A MORE CRITICAL ARTERIAL GIVEN ITS ACCESSIBILITY AND THE POTENTIAL SAFETY ISSUES OF THE BRIDGE. SO THAT'S JUST MY OPINION ON

THAT. >> YEAH, I THINK ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS IS WHAT IS COG'S OPINION GOING TO BE?

>> YEAH. I THINK THAT --

>> THAT'S MATT'S ARGUMENT, COG WILL VIEW THIS MUCH MORE FAVORABLY THAN THE MILLER ROAD ONE.

>> SO, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD IF WE WERE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER SCHEDULED MEETING ON THIS, THAT IN THAT IN BETWEEN THAT TIME, STAFF COULD REACH OUT TO NEIGHBORING CITIES OR COG AND SAY, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE ON PROJECTS LIKE THIS, THAT ARE THIS MASSIVE? WHAT WORKED FOR YOU AND WHAT DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD DO IN THIS SITUATION?

>> WE COULD DO THAT. I COULD THINK OF A COUPLE PEOPLE TO CALL AND GET SOME BACKGROUND ON THAT.

>> LET ME THROW ONE OTHER IDEA OUT THERE BRIAN.

Y'ALL ARE GOING TO LAUGH AT THIS BECAUSE IT'S ME PROBABLY.

WHAT IF WE STEP OUT OF THE BOX A LITTLE BIT.

HAVE A SIT DOWN WITH OUR REPRESENTATIVE FROM WASHINGTON AND TALK ABOUT THE NEED THAT WE HAVE AND THE STIMULUS WE NEED TO HELP MOVE PEOPLE. AND WE TALK ABOUT BOTH MILLER ROAD AND MERRITT INTERCONNECTOR WITH HIM.

THEY HAVE A STIMULUS PACKAGE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER ONE COMING UP. THIS COULD BE A LINE ITEM IN THE PACKAGE. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO CONVINCE COLLIN ADRED OF IT AND GET HIM ON OUR SIDE.

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD GET INFRASTRUCTURE ROADWAY INTO A COVID STIMULUS PACKAGE, BUT, MAYBE I'M WRONG.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS GOING TO BE A BIG INFRASTRUCTURE BILL THROUGH AT A FEDERAL LEVEL DURING THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION HOPEFULLY. ALTHOUGH THAT'S BEEN PROMISED DURING THIS ADMINISTRATION TOO SO YOU NEVER KNOW.

I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE WILL HAVE A FEDERAL PROGRAM SOME TIME IN OUR

LIFETIME. >> YEAH.

TO YOUR POINT, BROWNIE, I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTH HAVING THE CONVERSATION. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET SOMETHING THAT LIKE SCHEDULED BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS BOND. BUT I DO THINK IT'S WORTH ASKING ABOUT. MY GOODNESS.

IF THEY CAN PUT COUNTING FISH IN A STIMULUS BILL, THEN I DON'T THINK TRANSPORTATION SHOULD BE OUTSIDE OF THE CONVERSATION.

MAYBE IT WOULD FLY. >> GARLAND --

>> GARLAND ACTUALLY DID THAT WITH THE 635 EAST PROJECT.

THEY WENT AND MET WITH DOT IN WASHINGTON, D.C. IN THEIR OFFICE AND PRESENTED THAT PROJECT AND TRIED TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO GET MONEY. I THINK THAT'S HOW THEY WERE SUCCESSFUL GETTING FUNDS THROUGH THE MPO AT COG.

>> I WASN'T SAYING WE SHOULDN'T DO THAT JUST NOT THROUGH CARES

FUNDING. >> I WAS THINKING NANCY PELOSI FUNDED UKRAINE OUT OF IT. THAT'S MORE OF A LONG-TERM THING

THAN SHORT TERM FOR THIS BOND. >> I AGREE WITH THAT.

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>> OKAY. SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, SOUNDS LIKE WE ZEROED IN ON MILLER ROAD, BRIDGE AND MERRITT INTERCONNECTOR. WE WILL TAKE A VOTE IN A LITTLE BIT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE

TWO? >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

AM I ALLOWED TO PROVIDE INFORMATION? I THINK WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT THIS DISCUSSION TO COUNCIL AND

STAFF RIGHT NOW BRIAN. >> MAYOR, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.

AT ONE TIME I HEARD MATT MAKE THE ARGUMENT COG WOULD BE MORE SUPPORTIVE OF MILLER ROAD BECAUSE MERRITT --

>> OTHER WAY AROUND. >> I HEARD IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. SO WHICH ONE IS IT?

>> SO IT'S MERRITT? >> IN MY GUT, I THINK MERRITT WOULD BE MORE ATTRACTIVE TO COG AND TO THE COUNTY BECAUSE IN A SHAPE OR FORM, IT'S ON THEIR RADAR BECAUSE THEY LOOK AT AN AREA IN THEIR SOMEWHERE AS ANOTHER NORTH SOUTH CORRIDOR ON THEIR LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN.

>> IT'S IN THEIR 2040 PLAN. ARE EITHER PROJECTS IN THE 2040,

2050 PLAN. >> I DO NOT BELIEVE MILLER ROAD IS. AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, TARRANT COUNTY DID THEIR UPDATED THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND WHAT THEY HAVE SEEN IS A REAL NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET SOMEHOW TO PGBT.

THROUGH SACHSE AND COME DOWN THROUGH THE NORTH OR THROUGH ROWLETT AND COME ACROSS AND SO, THERE HAS BEEN SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS WITH COG AND ABOUT THE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A CONNECTION POINT WHERE IT'S MERRITT ROAD INTERCONNECTOR OR YOU MAY REMEMBER AT ONE TIME, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE BLACK LANDS CORRIDOR. BUT, THE MERRITT ROAD INTERCONNECT OR WE BELIEVE WE COULD GET BEHIND FOR OTHER REASONS. WE THINK THERE'S A LOT OF VALIDITY THAT MILLER ROAD INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSIONS WHEN WE HAD WITH MICHAEL MORRIS FROM COG EARLY ON WAS THAT THAT THE I-30 IMPROVEMENTS WHICH HAD JUST BEEN APPROVED, I THINK AT THAT TIME, THERE WAS ONE SEGMENT APPROVED AND THE OTHER ONE WAS JUST ABOUT TO BE APPROVED OR JUST HAD BEEN APPROVED AND HIS COMMENT WAS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO RE-LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC COUNT ON MILLER ROAD TO EVEN SEE HOW MUCH THEY WOULD PARTICIPATE. SO, IT WAS NEVER A CERTAIN THING BUT IT WAS A PRIORITY WE FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO SEE IF WE COULD GET SUPPORT FROM DALLAS COUNTY AND WHICH WE DID.

WE WERE ABLE TO SECURE AND FUNDING FOR IT.

BUT, MERRITT ROAD INTERCONNECTORS WAS ONE OF OUR HIGHEST PRIORITIES IN TERMS OF A NEW STRUCTURE WHEN WE STARTED TO

MAKE THAT PITCH. >> ALSO, BRIAN.

I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, THE MERRITT INTERCONNECTOR AND ALSO MILLER FOR THAT MATTER WERE PRETTY HIGH ON THE PUBLIC WORKS RANKING AS WELL AS THE CIAB. AND YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE TWO OF THOSE, YEAH IT'S RIGHT AT $6 MILLION.

THEN YOU'VE GOT A NUMBER 16 IN THE RANKING FOR EAST INDUSTRIAL FOR PUBLIC WORKS AND IT'S ABOUT IN THE MIDDLE I GUESS WHERE CIAB BUT THAT'S ALMOST $5 MILLION RIGHT THERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS HERE AS TO YOU KNOW WHAT WE FEEL LIKE IS IMPORTANT.

AND WHAT I LOOK AT THOSE TWO PROJECTS COMPARED TO EAST INDUSTRIAL, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO SAY, I THINK BOTH OF THEM ARE

MORE IMPORTANT. >> I DON'T DISAGREE BOTH OF THEM ARE MORE IMPORTANT. I'M SAYING LET'S FIND ANOTHER WAY TO COMMIT OUR MATCHING FUNDS TO GO FIND WHAT KIND OF FINANCING IS AVAILABLE FOR MILLER.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO COMMIT $2.6 MILLION OF THIS BOND TO PROCEED HOW WE NEED TO PROCEED TO FIGURE OUT WHO WILL PLAY WITH

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US ON MILLER ROAD. >> I WOULD ALSO SAY IF WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH MILLER, I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO DO THAT WITH MERRITT JUST AS A PRECEDENT. I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN JUST DO ONE AND NOT THE OTHER. GIVEN THAT THE REASON WOULD BE

THE SAME FOR BOTH. >> WELL, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT SITUATIONS. THE $2.5 MILLION IS A MATCHING WITH DALLAS COUNTY THAT WE LOSE THAT MATCH IF WE DON'T SPEND THAT DALLAS COUNTY BY 2025. THE OTHER IS THE AMOUNT EARMARKED IF WE CAN GET THE REST OF THE FUNDING FOR THE MERRITT ROAD INTERCONNECTOR. THERE ARE SOME

BETWEEN THE TWO. >> YEP.

>> AND JUST A POINT OF INFORMATION, I JUST LOOKED AT 2045 PROBABILITY PLAN, THE MERRITT ROAD IS IN AND THE

MILLER IS NOT. >> THAT'S CRAZY GIVEN THE USE OF MILLER ROAD. IT'S AN AWFUL ROAD.

>> THEY LOOK AT IT AS LOCAL ROAD AND MORE IMPORTANTLY THEY LOOK AT IT AS WE'RE PUTTING ALL THIS MONEY INTO I-30 AND WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE TRAFFIC COUNTS ON I-30 BEFORE WE COMMIT $50 MILLION TO REBUILD MILLER BRIDGE.

SORRY. >> IT'S JUST A FACT.

>> AND BEFORE WE MOVE OFF OF THIS, I WANT TO MAKE AN EDITORIAL COMMENT BECAUSE IT GOES BACK TO VERY TIMELY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATION SAYS FROM THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL TERM LIMITS.

AND HOW WE NEVER HAD REPRESENTATION ON THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL. THAT'S WHY THESE DECISIONS ARE LOBBIED FOR AND ARE LIKE POLITICS OR NOT, IT'S POLITICS.

YOU CAN OVER THERE AND MAKE RELATIONSHIPS AND YOU PITCH YOUR PROJECTS AND YOU BUILD YOUR PROJECTS, AND THAT'S HOW THESE THINGS GET BIG FUNDING. YOU TALK ABOUT DALLAS.

YOU TALK ABOUT ALL THESE CITIES THAT GET BIG DOLLARS FROM TRANSPORTATION FOR PROJECTS LIKE THIS.

AND IT'S BECAUSE THEY BUILD RELATIONSHIPS IN THESE AREAS.

IT'S A GREAT IDEA. WE NEED TO MEET WITH ALL STATE REPRESENTATIVES COLLIN ALLRED AND EVERYBODY.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE A FRESHMAN COUNCIL MEMBER FROM ROW ROWLETT.

IT WILL TAKE SOMEONE WHO HAS THE EAR OF MICHAEL MORRIS OR THE BIG LEADERS ACROSS THE REGION ON THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION BOARD TO LOBBY FOR $50 MILLION FROM FED MONEY.

WE'RE NOT GOING, YOU AND I ARE NOT GOING TO WALK INTO COLLIN ALLRED'S OFFICE AND GET $50 MILLION FROM THE FEDS TO HELP WITH THIS. I'M NOT SAYING WE WOULD EVERY GET THIS. I WANT TO MAKE THIS POINT FROM ANYBODY LISTENING FROM THE PUBLIC.

THAT'S WHY THOSE DECISIONS ARE SO, SO IMPORTANT TO GET ON THE BOARD AND LOBBY FOR PROJECTS THAT WE CAN NEVER FUND AS A CITY AS A WHOLE THAT'S MY EDITORIAL COMMENT ON THAT.

>> GREAT POINT, MATT. >> GREAT POINT MATT.

THANKS. HARD TO SELL.

JUST LIKE I THINK PUTTING $5.76 MILLION IN A BOND FOR MONEY WE PUT IN A RESERVE IS HARD TO SELL.

>> YEP. >> YEAH.

SO, I'M GOING TO TRY TO MOVE ON IF WE CAN.

WE WILL COME BACK. I PROMISE.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS LIST? ANYBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT?

>> YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND OF THE TIMELINE ON SAPPHIRE BAY.

I'M NOT COMPLETELY SURE OF THE NEED FOR THE THE NEW FIRE STATION. THE TIMING AND DELAY, IF IT NEEDS TO BE IN THIS BOND OR POTENTIALLY BE IN A BOND THREE

YEARS FROM NOW. >> SO, LET ME SAY THIS, MATT, IN DISCUSSIONS WE HAVE HAD MANY DISCUSSIONS ON THIS ISSUE GOING BACK YEARS NOW. I DON'T KNOW IF CHIEF HOWARD HAS MADE IT ON YET. BUT ONE THING THAT HE HAS ADVOCATED FOR IS THAT THAT WE HAD THE FIRE STATION UP AND READY AND OUT FITTED BEFORE THE RESORT GOES LIVE.

NOW, TEMERRED WITH THE FACT HIS PREFERENCE WOULD BE EVEN BEFORE

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THEY START CONSTRUCTION BUT THAT WAS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

NOW, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE EVERY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IN THERE. SO ULTIMATELY, I THINK WE'RE BUILDING IT FOR THREE APPARATUS LADDER TRUCK, PUMPER AND A MEDIC UNIT. AND IT MAY BE THAT WE ONLY HAVE THE LADDER TRUCK TO START WITH AND THEN WE ADD THE MEDIC UNIT AND THEN WE ADD THE PUMPER. BUT YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THE BUILDING BEFORE YOU CAN ADD ANY OF THEM.

SO, WE KNOW THAT THE RESORT IS SUPPOSED TO OPEN BY 2023 SO BASICALLY WE'RE WITHIN THE THREE YEAR BOND ELECTION, WHICH IS WHY THIS DID NOT MAKE IT ON THE 2018 ELECTION VERY QUICKLY.

IF YOU REMEMBER THE ISSUES WE WERE HAVING WITH BAY SIDE.

FOR SAPPHIRE BAY, WE'RE IN THE THREE YEAR WINDOW

>> THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, I HAD THE SAME CONVERSATIONS WITH CHIEF GOD FRIED. YOU CAN DO THAT MORE LINEARLY.

YOU PUT FOUR OFFICERS AND THEN YOU DOUBLE THAT TO EIGHT.

BUT THE FIRE STATION COMES WITH APPARATUS.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE STRUCTURE AND THEN THE EQUIPMENT WHEREAS POLICE OFFICERS WE CAN EVEN START INCREMENTALLY WITH PATROLS AND THEN ADD SPACE AND THEN A SUB STATION AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. YOU CAN'T DO THAT WITH A FIRE STATION. SO WE, THE FIRE, THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE HAS PHASES FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. BECAUSE WE DO THINK THAT WOULD BE BEST TO HAVE THEM SITUATED. IT'S SUCH A SMALL AREA ANYWAY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS MOST OF YOUR QUESTIONS MATT. BUT, AND IF NEIL, I DON'T KNOW IF NEIL IS ON YET, IF HE IS, I WILL LET NEIL ANSWER THAT FOR HIMSELF. NEIL.

>> SORRY, I DIDN'T SEE YOU WERE ON THERE YET.

THANK YOU. BRIAN.

YES, YOU DID A VERY GOOD JOB EXPLAINING.

THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING IT DOWN THERE AS CONSTRUCTION CONTINUES IS WE'RE JUST AS VULNERABLE DURING CONSTRUCTION PHASE AFTERWARDS. SO, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THAT ASSET THAT WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON. THAT'S THE REASON WE NEED IT NOW. AND IT WILL TAKE EIGHT TO 10 MONTHS AT LEAST TO DESIGN AND GET THAT PIECE GOING BEFORE WE CAN EVEN START CONSTRUCTION. PROBABLY AT LEAST A 12-MONTH

BUILD ON IT. >> OKAY.

THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME. I JUST, I KNOW WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE. I JUST NEEDED A REFRESHER.

THANK YOU. >> OKAY.

I HAD A QUESTION ON LONG BRANCH CREEK.

AM I MUTED? CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME?

>> YES. I HAVE ONE ON THE SAPPHIRE BAY STATION. IT'S NOT REALLY A QUESTION.

IT'S MORE OF A THOUGHT THAT I'M ADDING TO THE CONVERSATION FOR Y'ALL TO CONSIDER. I CAN GO ANOTHER WAY.

I WOULD HAVE TO ADD TO THE CONVERSATION THAT I THINK THAT IS A CO BOND ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER AND THE OUTDOORING SIRENS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED BRIEFLY GIVEN THESE PROJECTS ARE REALLY NOT AN OPTION AND GIVEN IT'S MORE ON PUBLIC SAFETY AND IT'S REALLY, REALLY SHOULD BE REQUIRED AND THE CITIZENS EXPECT US TO HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY AS A PRIORITY.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THINKING THAT POSSIBLY IT WOULD BE THE BEST INTEREST FOR THE CITY OF ROWLETT AND THE CITIZENS THOSE TWO PROJECTS ARE CONSIDERED AS A CO BOND RATHER THAN A GO BOND IS SOMETHING WORTH THINKING ABOUT FOR A SECOND.

GIVEN ITS IMPORTANCE AND THE NEED NOT THE WANT FOR THOSE TWO

PROJECTS. >> IT'S INTERESTING WE HAVE HISTORY ON TAKING THE LAST FIRE STATION TO VOTERS AND

THEM DECIDE. >> THAT'S TRUE.

>> I HEAR YOU BLAKE. IT'S AN INTERESTING THOUGHT.

I HOPE WE DON'T HAVE TO COME TO THAT BECAUSE THESE CITIZENS HAVE ALWAYS SAFETY.

> YES. >> I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD JUSTIFY US DOING IT ONE WAY WITH THE CURRENT FIRE STATION AND

ANOTHER WAY WITH THIS ONE. >> UH-HUH.

BUT REGARDLESS, IT WOULD REDUCE OUR ABILITY TO FUND GO BONDS.

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>> REGARDLESS OF THE APPROVAL METHODOLOGY, THE FINANCING FOR US IS THE SAME. PROPERTY TAXES.

>> RIGHT. IT WAS JUST IN TERMS OF THE LIABILITY OF GUARANTEEING IT VERSUS IT GOING FORWARD.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO MAKE A VERY GOOD POINT ABOUT THERE BEING A PRECEDENT ALREADY SET. SO YEAH, I DO HEAR YOU OUT ON

THAT. >> I DON'T WANT TO GO AROUND OUR

VOTERS. >> YEAH.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY.

GOING AWAY FROM THE VOTERS. IT WAS MORE OF IT'S SOMETHING THEY EXPECT FOR US TO PRIORITIZE PUBLIC

>> YEAH. I HEAR YOU.

>> I DIDN'T MEAN TO IMPLY THAT, BLAKE.

THE COS HAVE A HISTORY IN THIS TOWN OF GOING AROUND THE VOTERS.

>> OH, WELL THAT'S UNFORTUNATE. BECAUSE A GO BOND DIDN'T PASS AND SOMETHING GOT FUNDED FROM A DIFFERENT BOND.

>> I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT HISTORY.

I NEED TO TALK TO THAT.

>> THIS IS THAT. >> I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ON THAT. I WONDERED IF THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER FUNDING STRAIN THAT WE MAY NOT BE LOOKING AT TO BUILD THAT FIRE STATION? IS THERE NOT ADDITIONAL MONEYS

OUT OF SAPPHIRE BAY TO GRAB? >> HERE'S WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THAT, WHITNEY, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

IT MAY BE POSSIBLE BUT, I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT WE'RE IN FINAL NEGOTIATIONS WITH SAPPHIRE BAY ABOUT THE FINANCING STRUCTURE OF THE CONFERENCE CENTER. AND AS YOU GUYS KNOW, YOU KNOW THERE'S BEEN CONSIDERABLE WORK DONE ON THAT.

FINANCIAL ANALYSIS AND THAT WE'RE STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. I THINK WE REALLY KIND OF NEED TO GET THAT PART RESOLVED BEFORE WE WOULD EACH KNOW WHETHER THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL REVENUES AND THE QUESTION IS, IF THE REVENUES ARE AVAILABLE LATER, MAYBE AS A REIMBURSEMENT MECHANISM VERSUS UP FRONT, TO BE ABLE TO GET THE PROJECT BUILT TO BEGIN WITH.

>> YEAH. THE UNFORTUNATE PART, WE'RE ALMOST BACKED UP AGAINST THE WALL.

AT THIS POINT. BECAUSE WE CAN'T WAIT FOR THREE

YEARS TO GET A FUNDING STREAM. >> BUT IF WE GOT REIMBURSEMENT,

IT'S ICING ON THE CAKE. >> SHOULD I MOVE TO MY LONG BRANCH EROSION QUESTION? I'M NOT HEARING OBJECTIONS.

SO, 1.6 OUT OF 2.7, I'M READING SOMETHING FROM THE PACKAGE.

IF I CAN FIND IT AGAIN. THIS WOULD COVER THE TOP FOUR PROJECTS. MY SPECIFIC QUESTION GARY OR WHOMEVER IS, CAN YOU REALLY SEGREGATE PHASE ONE FROM PHASE TWO IF YOU ARE CREEK EROSION PROJECT.

>> YES, WE SELECTED THE TOP FOUR BECAUSE THEY ARE LISTED AS CRITICAL OUT OF 10 AREAS THAT WERE OBSERVED IN THE 2019

EROSION STUDY BY CONSULTANT. >> SO YOU CAN DO A PARTIAL AND THEN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE MONEY WE HAVE AVAILABLE AND THE PROJECTS. THAT'S WHY IT WAS SPLIT UP.

IF MORE FUNDING BECOMES AVAILABLE AND WE'RE ABLE TO DO THE WHOLE THING, IT WOULD BE IDEAL.

IF YOU CHANGE THE HYDRAULICS ON THE UPSTREAM, WILL IT CORRECT ON THE DOWN STREAM? I HAVE TO ASK THAT QUESTION TO A CONSULTANT. WE DID IDENTIFY THE TOP FOUR

BECAUSE THEY WERE LISTED HERE. >> I WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER FUNDING THAT ENTIRE THING AND GETTING, I JUST DON'T, I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD APPROACH TO DO PART OF THAT EROSION CONTROL. IT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ISSUE RIGHT NOW. JUST AS A PROPOSAL.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU, MAYOR. IT WAS JUST, WE HAD SO MANY TOUGH DECISIONS, THAT WAS JUST ONE THAT WAS MADE.

>> YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO DISCUSS IT LIVE BEFORE WE MAKE DECISIONS. WHAT ELSE IS ON THIS LIST

ANYBODY? >> I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IF WE CAN FIND A WAY TO DO IT TO FUND BOTH PHASES OF HERFURTH

PARK. >> YEAH, I AGREE WITH YOU THERE

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TOO. WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT?

INDUSTRIAL OR HERFURTH IN >> YOU'RE ASKING THE WRONG GUY.

ALL RIGHT. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO NOW IF IT'S OKAY WITH EVERYBODY. GO TO THE 50 MILLION AND SEE IF THERE'S QUESTIONS. SO, HERFURTH PHASE TWO, ISAAC SCRUGGS. WHAT IS THE COMMUNITY PARK?

>> ADDITIONAL SPORTS FIELD UPGRADES.

WORK ON THE SOFT BALL FIELDS. CONTINUED WORK ON THE SOCCER FIELDS. MAINLY FIELD UPGRADES.

THEY JUST GET PLAYED TO DEATH. IT'S TIME FOR A REWORK OF OUR

ADULT SOFTBALL FIELDS. >> HAVE WE NOT FINISHED THE SCOREBOARD YET? I THOUGHT IT WAS FULLY FUNDED?

>> THE SCOREBOARDS, WE HAVE DONE FOR BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL.

NOT FOR TEE-BASKETBALL. THERE'S TWO SMALL SCOREBOARDS ON THE TEE BALL. WE DID 2015 SOFTBALL, 2018

BASEBALL. >> THIS SIDEWALK PROGRAM, THIS HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT US GOING BACK AND FORTH. THE RESIDENTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR REPLACING SIDEWALKS. WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE BUDGET PROCESS TRYING TO REINSTATE 50-50 MATCH PROGRAM FOR LOW-INCOME RESIDENTS. BRIAN, I'M SURE YOU HAVE THAT ON THE LIST WHEN WE REVIEW THE BUDGET IN JANUARY?

NO? >> YES.

>> BUT PUTTING CAPITAL DOLLARS AND BOND DOLLARS INTO SIDEWALK REPAIR. ARE WE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SIDEWALKS OR ARE WE GOING TO HOLD FAST IT WAS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE RESIDENTS AND HELP THOSE THAT NEED THE HELP THE MOST? MY OPINION.

>> I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDED AS WELL, MAYOR.

>> THIS IS JUST THE CIAB RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP WHILE WE HAVE IT UP

>> >> OTHER THOUGHTS?

ANYBODY? >> I WOULD NOT DO CIP MONEY ESPECIALLY ADDITIONAL WHERE IT WOULD COST US TO RAISE THE TAX

RATE TO PAY FOR SIDEWALKS. >> I AGREE, MATT.

>> I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN

SIDEWALKS. >> IF WE WANT TO USE FUTURE CIB, NOT CIB, CDBG MONEY, THAT'S ANOTHER CONVERSATION.

>> I AGREE WITH THAT. THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT UP.

>> ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS $50 MILLION LIST ANYBODY WANTS

TO TALK ABOUT? >> SORRY, NO , I WAS JUST THINKING OUTLOUD. I THOUGHT I WAS ON MUTE.

MY BAD. >> ALL RIGHT.

I'M GOING TO SUGGEST WE GO TO THE PUBLIC WORKS PRIORITIES BY PRIORITY. AND THEN THE PARKS AND REC BY PRIORITY AND THEN THE PUBLIC SAFETY BY PRIORITY AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK ABOUT THE NEXT APPROACH?

>> FINE WITH ME. >> THERE'S, I'M LOOKING AT -- LAUREN, DO YOU WANT ME TO SHARE IT.

I DON'T HAVE THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS. >> I'M LOOKING AT THE PRESENTATION. THE PDF JOINT PRESENTATION FROM THE JOINT MEETING. IT LAYS IT OUT REAL NICELY.

SEE IF I CAN SHARE IT FIRST OFF. SO THIS HAS FIRE DEPARTMENT AND PARKS AND REC AND THEN -- THAT'S FINE.

Y'ALL OKAY LOOKING AT THIS AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE WE

WANT TO TALK ABOUT? >> SO, FIRE DEPARTMENTS GETTING EVERYTHING THEY WANT. RIGHT CHIEF?

>> YES, MA'AM. I CAN'T SEE WHAT YOU'LL SEE.

THAT'S GOOD. THAT HELPS.

>> SO LET'S MOVE TO PARKS AND REC.

WHAT IS ON THIS LIST WHAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER, HERFURTH

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PHASE TWO? >> DO WE HAVE TO MAKE A VOTE?

>> THERE'S NO GOOD WAY TO DO THIS.

WE WILL VOTE ON EACH ONE OF THESE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WE

WANT CHANGES TO. >> GOT IT.

>> I HAVE BEEN KEEPING TRACK TOO.

I CAN PULL THAT UP. WHAT I'M ASKING RIGHT NOW BLAKE, I THINK WHAT I'M ASKING, IS THERE ANYTHING ON THESE LIST THAT DIDN'T MAKE THE 40, 50 MILLION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO

HAVE US CONSIDER AS A GROUP? >> GOT IT.

OKAY. IS THAT A FAIR NEXT QUESTION?

>> YEAH. >> MAYOR, ONE COMMENT THAT WAS MENTIONED WAS THE THE POSSIBILITY OF ADDING CENTURY DRIVE. WAS THAT CORRECT?

>> I AM JUST -- >> YEAH.

>> PARK IS THERE RIGHT NOW. >> I'M ON PARKS AND REC RIGHT

NOW. >> SORRY.

>> HEY, TAMMY, AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST, ONE OF THE CITIZEN SUGGESTIONS WAS THE LAUNCH, THE BOAT

>> YEAH. BOAT RAMP.

>> KAYAK DOCKS AND LAUNCH. >> SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT, DON'T GO DOWN ANY FURTHER PLEASE.

KEEP ALL OF PARKS AND REC THERE. THANK YOU.

RIGHT THERE. WE'RE GOING TO, WE'VE GOT MONEY ALLOCATED I THINK FOR PECAN GROVE AT LAKE SIDE OR LAKE SIDE

AT PECAN GROVE, IS THA CORRECT? >> I CAN'T CLICK OVER TO MY

OTHER >> DON'T MOVE.

SORRY. >> I HAVE LIKE THAT THREE SCREENS GOING. I CAN'T CLICK BETWEEN THEM.

>> LAKE FRONT OF THE PECAN GROVE TWO DIDN'T MAKE THE LIST.

>> THAT'S THE $40 MILLION LIST. CORRECT?

>> NO. IT'S ON THE 500 --

>> NO IT'S ON 50. >> ON THE 50.

>> OH I CAN HELP YOU. >> IT'S ON BOTH LISTS.

40 AND 50. >> EVERYTHING IS 40 IS ALSO ON

50 GUYS. >> SORRY.

I FORGOT I HAD IT UP ON ANOTHER SCREEN.

YEAH I CAN LOOK. >> LET ME ASK, SO, THAT INCLUDES THE KAYAK LAUNCH FOR THAT PARK. CORRECT?

>> PHASE ONE INCLUDES THE KAYAK LAUNCH FOR

>> RIGHT. CORRECT.

>> CORRECT. THIS WOULD BE THE PHASE TWO

AMENITIES. >> YEAH.

SO PHASE ONE WOULD INCLUDE THE KAYAK LAUNCH.

>> OKAY. SO, PUBLIC PARKS AND REC NUMBER THREE PRIORITY IS LAKE FRONT PECAN GROVE PHASE TWO.

THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE THE KAYAK LAUNCH.

IT'S ALREADY IN PHASE ONE. >> NOW I'M MOVING DOWN TO PUBLIC WORKS NUMBER 14. SO, WHAT DO YOU NOT HAVE IDEA,

WHITNEY, YOU BROUGHT THIS UP. >> WHAT ELSE WE WOULD BE LOOKING

AT. >> WHITNEY WAS TALK ABOUT THE PUBLIC INPUT WAS TO PUT THE PUBLIC BOAT RAMP.

>> IT'S A PARKS PROJECT BUT CITIZEN INPUT.

>> OH,. SORRY.

THAT'S WHY I STARTED SCROLLING BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO FIND IT.

I FORGOT EVERYBODY COULD SEE MY SCREEN.

>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOTOR BOAT LAUNCH.

>> YES. WELL WE'RE WORKING ON

RIGHT >> YEAH.

>> YEAH. SO, BRIAN, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU

WANT TO SAY ABOUT THAT? >> WE'RE WORKING ON IT, MAYOR.

>> I'M GOOD. >> SORRY, I MISUNDERSTOOD.

I THOUGHT IT WAS THE PR 14. >> THE PR 14 IS A GOOD POINT BECAUSE I AM CONFUSED NOW AS TO WHETHER THAT IS INCLUDED IN PR 3

OR NOT. >> IT IS ADDITIONAL.

WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO PUT IN A SECOND KAYAK LAUNCH AT LAKE FRONT AT PECAN GROVE. THE PR 14 IS SOMETHING AT STUDENT POINT PARK. LAKE SIDE PARK SOUTH WHICH WE COULD INSTALL ONE OR TWO KAYAK LAUNCHES.

WE ALREADY HAVE FOLKS LAUNCHING ONCE PADDLE POINT IS PACKED.

WE HAVE A GRANT FOR THE LAKE SIDE NORTH TRAIL FOR THE THE HOMEOWNERS TO USE AND THE POTENTIAL TO PUT A SECOND KAYAK LAUNCH AT PECAN GROVE WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

>> OKAY. ONE THING I'M WORRIED ABOUT IN

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REGARDS TO PARKS AND REC, THE MILLION DOLLARS FOR WET ZONE WHICH I THINK A LOT IS MAINTENANCE WORK.

>> WE GOT TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER WE'RE PUTTING INTO THE PARKS, PROPOSAL IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE ATTRACTIVE TO THE COMMUNITY TO ADD VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY NOT TO PERFORM MAINTENANCE WORK. I FEEL REALLY STRONGLY ABOUT

THAT. >> ANYTHING ELSE ON PARKS AND REC ANYBODY WANT TO ADD HERE? CAN WE MOVE TO PUBLIC WORKS?

>> ALL RIGHT. I WILL KEEP LOOKING AT YOU WHITNEY BECAUSE YOU'RE RESPONDING TO ME.

THANK YOU. >> OKAY.

SO THERE'S THE FIRST 17 PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS.

>> I ALREADY TALKED ABOUT ADDING BACK PHASE TWO OF THE LAKE LAND HEIGHTS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION THERE? ANYBODY? I'M GOOD.

>> WE'LL COME BACK AND VOTE. I'M JUST SAYING DO WE NEED TO

TALK ABOUT IT? >> ALL ADD TOLER BUSINESS PARK

PHASE ONE. >> WE TALKED ABOUT THAT

ALREADY. >> WHAT ELSE DID Y'ALL WANT TO

TALK ABOUT HERE? >> TALK TO US, WE ONLY HAVE POTENTIALLY IF WE PUT LAKE LAND HEIGHTS BACK IN HERE, WE ONLY HAVE ONE NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT. IF I'M READING, REMEMBERING CORRECTLY. YOUR NEXT BIGGEST PRIORITY THAT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT I THINK IS LARKSPUR.

CORRECT? >> LARKSPUR LANE.

WE DID IN 2018 BOND ELECTION. IT'S A MAIN ENTRY INTO THE SUB DIVISION OFF ROWLETT ROAD. SO THAT ONE REALLY STUCK OUT TO US AS CONTINUATION OF WHAT WE DID IN THE 2018 IN THAT AREA TO UPGRADE PRIMROSE. TO ANOTHER MAIN.

>> IS IT COUNTRY ESTATES? DOESN'T THAT RATE HIGHER THAN LARKSPUR. THAT'S PW 10.

>> I'M SORRY I MISSED BRIAN.

THANKS. >> YEAH.

YOU THINK ABOUT THE PROJECTS, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE STREETS BECAUSE THE WATER AND SEWER IS FUNDED OUT THE REVENUE BONDS. WE ALSO REPLACING THE WATER SEWER FROM A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE.

>> I'M VERY INTERESTED IN ADDING A NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT.

I MEAN ONE OF OUR MAIN PRIORITIES IS TO VALUE OUR EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS. WE HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT NEED HELP. AND TO NOT PUT A NEW PROJECT IN AND TO FURTHER OUR INVESTMENT INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IS A

MISTAKE. >> YEAH.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE GARY THAT WE HAVE DONE THE ENGINEERING ON? THAT WE DID IN EITHER 2015 OR 2018?

THAT HASN'T BEEN INCLUDED? >> JUST LAKE HAND HEIGHTS.

THE ONLY ONE WE INCLUDED THE ENGINEERING ON.

>> OKAY. HIGHLAND MEADOWS, PW 12, WE DID SEVERAL ROADS IN THAT AREA. PHASE THREE WE WILL CONTINUE THE REVITALIZATION OF THE WATER AND SEWER AND THE STREETS.

IF YOU HAVEN'T DRIVEN, IT'S MADE A DIFFERENCE FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE. WE PUT STREET LIGHTS IN AND

BRIGHTEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD UP. >> YEP.

OH. TOUGH GUYS. >> ALL RIGHT.

SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CAN YOU, ARE Y'ALL OKAY SCROLLING DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT?

THAT'S SCROLLING >> OTHER WAY.

>> DOWN. ALL RIGHT.

STOP. STOP.

>> MAYOR YOU MENTIONED THE NORTH DALROCK PHASE ONE.

THE PROJECT THAT YOU MENTIONED OFF PRINCETON.

THAT WOULD GO NORTH JUST PAST THE CULVERT, THE BRIDGE.

SO THAT WOULD ENCOMPASS THE FIRST TURN THAT YOU MENTIONED

EARLIER ABOUT SAFETY >> YEAH.

>> WELL, NEVER MIND. >> ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THE LIST FOR CONSIDERATION? ALL RIGHT.

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HEARING NONE. WHAT I'M GOING TO SUGGEST IS WE GO BACK TO THE I'M GOING TO SAY $50 MILLION LIST.

>> I WILL STOP SHARING. >> ANYBODY HAS SUGGESTIONS HOW THEY WANT TO DO THIS DIFFERENTLY, LET ME KNOW.

I'M GOING TO SUGGEST SOMETHING AND WE CAN THROW DARTS AT IT IF

YOU DON'T LIKE THIS APPROACH. >> WE GOT 40 MILLION, THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING FOR SURE, YES? WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS SOMEBODY SUGGEST THEIR HIGHEST PROPERTY ON THIS LIST AND THEN LET'S JUST TAKE A VOTE ARE Y'ALL OKAY WITH GOING DOWN THAT ROUTE?

>> HIGHEST PRIORITY ON THIS LIST STAYS FIRST.

WHO WANTS TO THROW A SUGGESTION OUT?

>> SAPPHIRE BAY POLICE AND FIRE STATION.

YEAH. BOTH PUBLIC SAFETY.

>> BOTH OF THEM. >> ALL RILE.

SO RIGHT. ANYBODY HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH BOTH OF THOSE STAYING ON THE LIST?

>> UNLESS WE CAN FIND ANOTHER FUNDING OPTION BETWEEN NOW AND

WHEN WE HAVE >> RIGHT.

>> EXACTLY. >> SO, GOT THAT

>> GOT IT. >> ALL RIGHT.

I CAN'T SEE EVERYBODY. I DON'T SEE BLAKE AND I DON'T SEE MARTHA. SO, BUT I SEE THE REST OF COUNCIL. ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE.

MY NEXT HIGHEST IS PHASE TWO AND THREE OF HERFURTH.

WHAT I'M GOING TO DO MATT. WHO IS IN FAVOR OF PHASE 2 STAYING OR WHO IS NOT OF 2 STAYING.

EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? >> WHO IS NOT IN FAVOR OF PHASE

TWO? >> LET ME RE-ASK THE QUESTION.

REMEMBER, I HAVE A CONCUSSION. MATT IS SUGGESTING HERFURTH PARK PHASE TWO SHOULD STAY ON THE LIST.

DOES ANYBODY AGREE? YES, RAISE YOUR HAND.

>> THAT'S ON THE ORIGINAL LIST. >> ALL RIGHT.

MATT IS SUGGESTING HE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE HERFURTH PARK PHASE TWO ON THE PRIORITY LIST. WHO WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT? MATT. I'M ALONE IN THE DARK ON THAT

ONE. >> ANGIE PUT THAT TO THE SIDE IN

CASE WE COME BACK TO IT. >> YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT AT THE END SO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

>> TRYING TO WHITTLE AWAY. >> I GOT TO FIGHT EARLY.

>> NOW I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PICK THE NEXT PRIORITY.

I ABSOLUTELY THINK LAKE LAND HEIGHTS PHASE TWO MUST BE ON THE

LIST. >> I GUESS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING? >> I AGREE.

>> LAKE LAND HEIGHTS. >> YOU ARE REALLY WORKING HARD

FOR US, LAURA. >> ALL RIGHT.

WHO WANTS TO FLOW THE NEXT OUT. >> ALLEY RECONSTRUCTION.

>> BLAKE. >> AT 3, I GUESS FIRST IS 2.

I GUESS YOU COULD SAY WHO IS IN FAVOR OF TWO MILLION.

WHO IS IN FAVOR OF THREE MILLION?

>> THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO PROPOSE BLAKE.

>> OKAY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND FORTH LAURA. I THINK WE'LL SPEAK UP.

I REAL APPRECIATE YOU TRYING. >> SHE WENT BACK.

NO , I WANT THE LIST UP. THERE WE GO.

I'M GOING TO SAY ALLY RECONSTRUCTION AT $2 MILLION FOR YES? ALLEY?

AT LEAST $2 >> AT LEAST TWO.

>> OKAY. WHO WANTS TO ADD ANOTHER MILLION TO THAT? FOR THIS FIRST PROPOSAL? PAM, BLAKE, THAT'S ALL I SEE. SO ANGIE PUT THAT TO THE SIDE

ALSO FOR NOW. >> LET THAT BE LATER.

WHO WANTS TO THROW OUT THE NEXT ONE?

>> I WANT TO THROW OUT LONG BRANCH CREEK EROSION, THE WHOLE $2.7 MILLION. I WILL ASK IT IN THE TWO PHASES.

IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH PHASE ONE IN THIS BOND? YES OR NO? YES.

RAISE YOUR HAND. >> YES.

WHO WANTS TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL 1.1 IN THIS BOND FOR THE PHASE TWO? ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR.

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THAT HAD A LITTLE LESS SUPPORT BUT IT WAS SUPPORTED.

>> LONG BRANCH AT HOW MUCH? >> I'M TRYING -- LONG BRANCH

2.375. >> I'M TRYING GUYS.

YOU'RE DOING GOOD. >> WHO WANTS TO THROW THE

THING OUT? >> EAST INDUSTRIAL.

>> I WILL THROW OUT ALL OF THE PARK PROJECTS THAT ARE ON OPTION ONE THE 40 MILLION GET APPROVED AND MY COMMENT ON THE WET ZONE AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING MAYOR, WHEN YOU HAVE AN ASSET LIKE THAT, ONCE IT'S GOTTEN TO A CERTAIN SPOT, THE AMOUNT OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE TO GO INTO IT ARE BEYOND WHAT IS IN OUR GENERAL MAINTENANCE BUDGET AND REQUIRES SOME ADDITIONAL CIP DOLLARS. BIGGER DOLLARS TO BE ABLE TO FUND THAT KIND OF STUFF. AND THAT'S A NONCOVID YEARS, THAT'S A VERY POPULAR PLACE AND EVEN MAKES MONEY.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY HARD TO FUND THE LEVEL OF DOLLARS OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND I THINK, KNOWING WHAT TYPE OF IMPROVEMENTS NEED TO BE MADE THERE.

AND SO THE ONLY OTHER WAY WOULD BE DOING IT WE WERE DOING A DRASTIC INCREASE IN THE RATES TO HELP MAKE MORE MONEY TO PAY FOR

THE IMPROVEMENTS. >> YEAH.

I WILL SAY THIS ABOUT THE PAINT, MAYOR BECAUSE UNDER ORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU.

THAT PAINT IS MAINTENANCE. BUT THIS IS KIND OF LIKE ENHANCED MAINTENANCE IN A WAY BECAUSE IT'S AIR BRUSHED.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE IN BETWEEN PAINTING FOR MAINTENANCE AND AN ART PROJECT. BECAUSE IT COSTS A LOT MORE TO DO. AND IF WE GOT ALMOST 20 YEARS OUT OF THE LAST BIT, THAT'S NOT REALLY LIKE MAINTENANCE PAINTING TO ME. AND SO, I THINK I COULD SUPPORT MATT'S PROPOSAL OF FULLY FUNDING BOTH OF THE WET ZONE PROJECTS AND THE PARK PROJECTS AT THE FULL AMOUNT.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO, I'M GOING TO TAKE WET ZONE, YOU CAN'T JUST DO A BLANKET APPROVAL OF THE PARKS PROJECTS

THERE MATT. >> YEAH.

NICE TRY. >> I JUST TRYING TO SPEED IT UP.

JUST TRYING TO SPEED IT UP. >> I LIKE IT.

>> POLITICIAN. >> WHO IS IN FAVOR, I FEEL LIKE

A TV GAME SHOW. >> WHO IS IN FAVOR OF WET ZONE FOR A MILLION? WHO IS IN FAVOR FOR WET ZONE FOR $500,000? SO THAT'S KIND OF LUKEWARM SUPPORT. SO IT'S KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE THERE. WE MAY HAVE TO COME BACK.

WE WILL LEAVE A MILLION IN ANGIE.

>> ORANGE. >> I NEED TO GO BACK TO THE LIST. EAST INDUSTRIAL.

WE'RE STILL ON PARKS BECAUSE MATT HAD A PROPOSAL TO CONSIDER

ALL TOGETHER. >> WE WILL COME TO YOU NEXT

BROWNIE. >> SO THE OTHER PARK IS TRAILS.

>> TRAILS. DID WE ALREADY VOTE ON HERFURTH?

>> TRAIL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE PEOPLE.

TRAIL FOR TWO MILLION? I CAN FIGURE IT OUT HERE.

WHITNEY YOU'RE NOT RAISING YOUR HAND?

>> THAT'S A 6-1 VOTE. >> PAM, DID YOU VOTE

>> >> YES SHE DID.

>> WHITNEY, YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT AS A COUNTER

PROPOSAL? >> NO, THE ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION WAS 1.5. AND THEY BUMPED IT UP TO TWO.

I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE 1.5. >> OKAY.

WELL, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

SO WHY -- >> I'M SORRY.

IT WAS ALWAYS TWO MILLION THAT CAME TO THE CIAB.

>> 1.5. >> I DON'T SEE IT.

>> JUST NEGLECT EVERYTHING I JUST SAID.

>> AND YOU'RE STANDING ON YOUR VOTE?

>> AND YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE?

ANY OTHER PARKS THAT MATT? >> EROSION CONTROL AND LAKE FRONT AT PECAN GROVE PHASE TWO. LAKE FRONT AT PECAN GROVE

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EVERYBODY IN SUPPORT? BLAKE? MARTHA? LAKE FRONT PECAN PHASE TWO?

>> IS THAT THE 40 MILLION? >> YES.

>> I SUPPORT 40 >> I'M NOT.

>> YEP. >> THAT'S FOR THE KAYAK RAMP.

>> NO. KAYAK IS ALREADY IF PHASE ONE.

>> RIGHT, BUT THAT'S -- >> WHAT IS THE PHASE TWO ANGIE?

>> ADDITIONAL BOARD WALK, PICNIC STATIONS.

ADDITIONAL TRAIL AT THAT PARK. ADDITIONAL PARKING AT THE PARK.

>> I PERSONALLY DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S A PRIORITY FOR THIS BOND

GIVEN OUR NEEDS. >> OKAY.

SO, NOW THAT WE GOT THAT ANSWER. ALL IN FAVOR OF LEAVING THE $100,000 IN RAISE YOUR HAND IN IS

>> TAMMY, MATT, MARTHA. JUST THREE OF US.

OH, MY GOODNESS GUYS. I HOPE WE GET THAT GRANT.

AND THE LAST PARKS PROJECT TAMMY IS EROSION CONTROL AT

>> YEAH. IN FAVOR.

>> IN FAVOR OF THAT. >> WHAT PARK IS THAT AT?

ALL OF THIS EM? >> IT WOULD BE AT SEVERAL.

WE WILL START AT SCENIC POINT PARK WHERE WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES AND LAKE SIDE AS WELL. IT'S PARKS THAT FACE LAKE RAY

HUBBARD. >> ALL IN FAVOR OF HALF A MILLION FOR EROSION RAISE YOUR HAND.

THAT'S 7-0. OKAY.

MATT, DID WE MISS ANYTHING? ANYTHING ON THE 50 MILLION YOU WANT TO BRING BACK INTO THE DISCUSSION?

>> WELL, IF YOU WANT TO GO THERE.

YOU KNOW OF THE STUFF THAT'S ON THE 50 MILLION THAT'S NOT ON HERE, OBVIOUSLY HERFURTH PHASE TWO AND COMMUNITY PARK.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD ANY NEW SPORTS COMPLEXES AT LEAST IN THE NEAR FUTURE. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE HAVE THE LAND TO DO IT. WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THE ONES WE HAVE. WITH THOSE ASSETS AND I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS RIGHT NOW.

AND I DON'T USUALLY LIKE BRINGING THIS UP.

I THINK IT'S PERTINENT TO THE CONVERSATION.

WE'RE GOING THROUGH REPAIRING BALL FIELDS AND FACILITIES IN GARLAND RIGHT NOW. I SEE WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU NEGLECT THE LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE.

IT'S TWICE AS EXPENSIVE TO REPAIR.

WE HAVE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF THE ASSETS THAT WE HAVE AND COMMUNITY PARK IS A HUGE ONE. I WOULD RECOMMEND MOVING THAT UP ONE IF THERE'S ROOM EVENTUALLY. HALF A MILLION FOR COMMUNITY PARK, PARKS AND REC RECOMMENDATION NUMBER 10.

WHICH IS SPORTS FIELD UPGRADES AND BASKETBALL SCOREBOARDS.

SO, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ROOM IN THE 40 MILLION.

LET ME TAKE A VOTE. WHO IS IN FAVOR AS A HIGH PRIORITY? ONE, TWO -- IF YOU HAVE ROOM.

>> IF WE HAVE ROOM. >> IF WE HAVE ROOM.

>> I WILL MAKE IT ORANGE. >> OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO, I'M GOING TO -- IS THAT IT FOR PARKS? ANYBODY ELSE FOR ANYTHING ON PARKS? I KNOW I CHANGED GEARS BUT

CAUSED THAT. >> MATT.

>> HE HEY WE HEY -- WE GOT THROUGH PARK.

>> QUIET IS WHO WANTS TO RECOMMEND A HIGH PRIORITY ITEM FROM ONE OF THESE? YOU ARE RECOMMENDING

>> EAST INDUSTRIAL. >> UH-HUH.

>> I'M I'M SORRY. >> IT'S TEARING MY WIFE'S CAR UP

EVERY TIME. >> THAT'S TRUE.

ME TOO. THE

>> SO, WHO THINKS EAST INDUSTRIAL IS A HIGH PRIORITY? ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR -- FIVE. ALL RIGHT.

>> I HAVE ANOTHER. GO AHEAD.

>> THE TOLLER BAY INDUSTRIAL PARK CENTURY DRIVE.

>> AND I'M SEEING THAT AS $2.157 MILLION?

>> NO. THAT WAS, YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT

>> YEAH. NO THIS IS THE ONE WHERE BLAKE SAID MOVE EAST CHAHA ROAD MONEY. WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT CHAHA YET. HE'S JUST PROPOSING TO

>> >> WAIT.

WAIT. I'M SORRY.

BLAKE, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. YOU'RE SAYING TOLLER BUSINESS PARK PHASE ONE. WHICH IS CENTURY DRIVE.

THAT'S PHASE ONE OF TOLLER BAY INDUSTRIAL PARK.

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THAT WAS CENTURY DRIVE >>

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> PUBLIC WORKS NUMBER NINE. >> EAST INDUSTRIAL IS PUBLIC

WORKS NUMBER 16. >> YEAH.

>> YOU AND I LOST THAT VOTE, MARTHA.

>> YEP. I KNOW.

I'M JUST MENTIONING IT.

>> GO DOWN TO ROAD, YOU MAKE NUMBER ONE.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> YOU GO DOWN MANY ROADS IN

TOWN AND MAKE THEM NUMBER ONE. >> THAT'S TRUE.

>> I HAD A BUSINESS ON INDUSTRIAL FOR 10 YEARS.

SO I HEAR YOU PAM. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO PRIORITIZE AND QUITE HONESTLY, IF IT WASN'T A $5 MILLION PROJECT, I WOULD BE A LOT MORE EXCITED ABOUT MOVING IT UP.

BUT IT'S IN THE MIDDLE FOR THE CIAB AND NUMBER 16 WITH PUBLIC WORKS. SO, I'M SAYING WE NEED TO

THAT IN >> SO.

>> I STILL VOTE. >> SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE

ANOTHER VOTE ON >> NO.

THAT'S OKAY. >> WE CAN TAKE A VOTE ON CHANGING THE NAME OF INDUSTRIAL. TO A VETERAN'S BOULEVARD.

I LIKE THAT. >> OKAY.

I FORGET -- >> TOLLER BUSINESS PARK PHASE

ONE. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADDING TOLLER BUSINESS PARK FOR 2.157 RAISE YOUR HAND.

THAT'S FOUR ON MY FIRST SCREEN. FIVE, SIX.

GOT MORE VOTES THAN >> WOO HOO.

>> HEY. KEEP THAT IN MIND Y'ALL WHEN WE HAVE TO WHITTLE AWAY. MATT, ARE YOU GOING TO PROPOSE

3.2 FOR INTERCONNECTOR? >> FOR INTERCONNECTOR.

YEAH. I WOULD PROPOSE 3.2.

FOR THE INTERCONNECTOR WITH THE CAVEAT THAT IF WE DON'T GET MOVEMENT IN YEAR THREE WE CAN MOVE IT DOWN AND ALMOST PAY FOR EAST INDUSTRIAL OR ONE OF THE OTHER ONES.

THAT MIGHT GET WHITTLED OFF. >> MATT JUST VOTED INDUSTRIAL

OFF THE ISLAND. >> UH-HUH.

>> YEAH. AMEN.

NO COOP ATTEMPT HERE. >> ALL RIGHT.

INTERCONNECTOR IS A HOT PRIORITY FOR 3.2 MILLION IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND. ONE TWO, THREE, FOUR FIVE ON MY FIRST SCREEN, 6- 1. STILL BEAT INDUSTRIAL.

>> WOULD YOU LEAVE THAT ALONE. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO CONTROL THE

MEETING? >> JUST LEAVE THAT ALONE.

INDUSTRIAL IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME.

>> OKAY. WHAT HAVE WE NOT TALKED ABOUT

HERE THAT? >> CHAHA.

OR THE CONCRETE REPLACEMENT. >> REMEMBER MY QUESTION IS WHAT PRIORITY DO YOU WANT TO LEAVE ON THE LIST?

>> OKAY. WELL, WE TALKED ABOUT

>> HANG ON. >> YEP.

HANG ON. THE QUESTION IS WHAT PRIORITIES ON THIS LIST DO YOU WANT TO LEAVE ON? SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO YOU KNOW PUSH FOR CHAHA, SAY IT RIGHT NOW. IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO PUSH FOR MILLER ROAD MATCH. SAY IT RIGHT NOW.

>> >> MILLER ROAD.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THAT. >> ALL RIGHT.

MILLER ROAD. THIS IS THE MATCH THROUGH BOND FUNDS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR

HAND. >> YEP.

THAT'S, AGAIN, PUBLIC, I AM SUPPORTING US MOVING FORWARD WITH FIGURING OUT HOW TO DO MILLER.

WE JUST HAVE TO >> HOW TO DO IT.

>> RIGHT. >> THEN RESERVING $2.6 MILLION

OF THE BOND >> UH-HUH.

>> ALL RIGHT. SHOULD WE CONSIDER

REPLACEMENT? >> YES.

>> LET'S DO CONCRETE REPLACEMENT FOR AT LEAST TWO MILLION.

>> IF YOU SUPPORT, RAISE YOUR HAND.

THAT'S SEVEN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TRYING TO ADD ANOTHER MILLION IF WE HAVE IT, RAISE YOUR HAND.

YOU GOT IT. ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE.

THAT MILLION IS IFFY. BUT IT'S A FIVE.

>> YEAH. IT'S MORE THAN INDUSTRIAL.

>> YEAH. >> LEAVE IT ALONE.

Y'ALL ARE ONLY CURRENTLY AT 46 MILLION.

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NO, CHAHA. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE SUPPORT.

IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE AS PRIORITY RAISE YOUR HAND.

>> I AM -- THAT COMES OFF. ALL RIGHT.

SO WITH THAT ANGIE, WHERE ARE YOU AT? 41.451. I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER ANOTHER

NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT. >> WAIT A MINUTE.

LET ME TAKE OUT LAKE FRONT PECAN GROVE.

>> BRIAN HAS LOWER THAN THAT. TAKE OUT MILLER, YOUR

>> REALLY? >> YEAH.

YOU'RE AT 38 AND A HALF. >> WE DON'T HAVE PHASE THREE FOR

HERFURTH. >> WE DON'T HAVE THAT OR ADDITIONAL ALLEY MONEY. BE READY TO SHOW US YOUR SPREADSHEET IN A LITTLE ANGIE.

>> I'M READY. >> I WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER

ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT. >> AND THAT WAS THE LARKSPUR?

>> THE NEXT ONE. COUNTY AIR HAS A BIGGER PRIORITY FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS. I WOULD GO TO GARY AND SAY WHAT

DO YOU THINK? >> I WOULD STICK WITH THE

INITIAL RECOMMENDATION. >> COUNTRY AIR.

I NEVER HEARD OF THAT. >> THE ROADS ARE -- LET'S SEE SULSBURG FROM CHISA TO ACAPULCO. 150 PASS THROUGH.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. THAT MEANS HOUSES THAT MIGHT USE STREETS IN THAT PROJECT TO PASS THROUGH TO OTHER AREAS.

>> OKAY. THEN IT SAYS, THERE IS A PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO. PHASE TWO WOULD BE SWISS WAY FROM ACAPULCO TO SALSBURG AND THEN TO RICHMOND.

>> SALSBURG, I THINK Y'ALL KNOW WHERE LARKSPUR IS.

>> IS THAT PHASE ONE OR PHASE TWO OF COUNTRY AIR?

>> COUNTRY AIR SAYS PHASE ONE PLUS ENGINEERING WOULD BE $1.1 MILLION AND PHASE TWO WOULD BE ANOTHER $1.7 MILLION.

YEAH. AND ON THE PCI, THAT'S NEXT UP IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECTS THAT CORRECT?

>> IT'S 11. >> 11?

>> WHAT IS THE WORST PCI IN A NEIGHBORHOOD?

BOBBY LANE. >> NO, THAT'S THE OTHER PROJECT.

IF IT'S COUNTRY AIR. IT'S SALSBURG WHICH IS 11.

WHAT IS THE WORST OF THE WORST? >> ON THE PCI LIST FOR NEIGHBORHOOD ROADS, WHAT IS THE WORST OF THE WORST?

>> BOBBY LANE IS 8. >> YEAH.

>> HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE ON BOBBY LANE? NOT THAT MATTERS. I HATE SAYING THAT OUT LOUD.

IT'S LAKE LAND HEIGHTS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE DRIVEN OUT THERE. IT'S LIKE DRIVING ON CENTURY

REALLY. >> BUT THAT WAS ALREADY ON THE LIST THOUGH. IN PHASE TWO.

>> AS BOBBY HAS THAT.

>> YEAH. IT IS.

OH THANK YOU. HAD.

>> YEAH, THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING LIKE LAND HEIGHTS WOULD BE THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT. WE ALREADY VOTED ON LAKE LAND

HEIGHTS PHASE TWO. >> YES.

OH, GOT IT. OKAY.

I UNDERSTAND. I DON'T KNOW IF BOBBY LANE IS IN THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE SEEING THAT. WELL I KNOW THAT'S IN LAKE LAND

HEIGHTS. >> LAKE VIEW MEADOW ESTATES.

>> MINE SAYS SANDRA LANE, LEA ANN STREET AND LISA DRIVE.

IS SOMETHING CUT OFF? HEY GARY IS WHAT IS LAKE LAND HEIGHTS PHASE TWO? SANDRA, LEANN, LISA.

>> SAY AGAIN. >> SANDRA, LEANN AND LISA.

>> SO SANDRA IS A 14, LEANN IS A 16 AND LISA IS, LET'S SEE.

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BOBBY IS IN LAKE VIEW MEADOWS ESTATES.

>> YEAH, THAT'S THE ONE. I DON'T KNOW WHY I WAS SAYING LAKE LAND. PW 13.

>> PW 11 IS LARKSPUR. >> PW 10 IS COUNTRY AIR ESTATES.

PL 11 IS LAKE SPUR. PW 13 IS LAKE VIEW MEADOWS.

>> BUT IF WE WERE GOING TO PRIORITIZE BASED ON THE WORSE PCI RATING. IT WOULD BE LAKE VIEW MEADOW ESTATES. IT'S BOBBY LANE.

>> YEAH. WE NEED IT ALL.

>> WE DO NEED IT ALL. >> I MEAN I HAVE A HARD TIME GOING AGAINST THE RECOMMENDATION OF PUBLIC WORKS WHEN THEY DEAL

WITH THIS DAY IN AND DAY OUT. >> PCI IS DEFINITELY A BIG FACTOR. THAT'S HOW CLOSE TO A SCHOOL.

TRAFFIC COUNTS, THE UTILITIES UNDER THE ROAD, THAT'S WHAT WE CONSIDERED WHEN WE MADE THE RECOMMENDATION.

UTILITIES MAYBE WORSE UNDER THE ONES HIGHER RANKED.

>> RIGHT. >> THE PCI ISN'T THE WHOLE

PICTURE. >> IT'S DEFINITELY A STARTING POINT. I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WE VOTE ON COUNTRY AIR ESTATES PHASE ONE AND TWO FOR $2.8 MILLION.

MAYBE PHASE ONE IS IN YEAR TWO AND PHASE TWO IS IN YEAR THREE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ALL DONE AT ONCE. I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER PUTTING ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT IN. I'M JUST GOING TO PUT THAT FORTH BASED ON PUBLIC WORKS RECOMMENDATION.

ALL THOSE THAT SUPPORT ADDING COUNTRY AIR ESTATES FOR $2.8 MILLION, RAISE YOUR HAND. ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN. GOT IT.

COUNTRY AIR. ALL RIGHT.

WHERE DO YOU WANT TO GO NOW? REVIEW WHAT WE'VE GOT?

>> YEAH. LET'S REVIEW.

WE HAVE THREE NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECTS

>> TWO. >> TWO.

>> LAKE LAND HEIGHTS AND CURRENT AIR.

>> -- COUNTRY AIR. >> OKAY.

DO YOU WANT ME TO SCREEN SHARE? >> YEAH.

LET'S SEE WHAT YOU HAVE. CAN YOU SEE THAT? THERE'S YOUR PROJECTS. WOW.

THERE'S YOUR TOTAL. WHERE IS THE TOTAL?

>> RIGHT OVER UNDER DOLLARS.

>> >> YELLOW.

ONLY THE GREENS? >> INCLUDES THE YELLOWS AND THE GREENS AT THE LOWER AMOUNT. AND COMMUNITY PARK WHICH Y'ALL WERE STILL DEBATING ON. DOES NOT INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL 1.8 AT HERFURTH. DOESN'T INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL THOUSAND FOR ALLEY. OR THE ADDITIONAL LONG BRANCH MONEY IF YOU WANTED TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL SITES.

I'M TRYING TO READ MY WRITING. ANGIE, LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE LONG

BRANCH. >> COLUMN 8, 2735.

>> IT'S THERE. >> ARE YOU ADDING UP COLUMN H TO

COME TO 43015? >> SHE MISSED 32.

>> YEAH, I >> 41.

>> OKAY. A LITTLE CHEAT RIGHT HERE.

>> THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW WE COULD GO TO A PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO FOR COUNTRY AIR BECAUSE PHASE ONE IT $1.1 MILLION OR WE COULD MOVE TO LARKSPUR 1.7 MILLION.

HISTORICALLY, WE HAVE BEEN DOING PHASE ONE AND ENGINEERING AND GOING TO BOND AND DO THE NEXT. WE MIGHT WANT TO LOWER THAT

COUNTRY AIR TO 1.144. >> ARE WE DOING THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE CAPACITY TO DO BOTH PHASE ONE AND TWO WITHIN THE

THREE YEARS? >> NO, WE'RE OVER THE 40 MILLION. BUT,

>> WELL I KNOW THAT. I MEAN BESIDES THAT?

>> IN TERMS OF STRATEGY, WHITNEY, IT'S BECAUSE WHAT WE DO

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IS BY DOING THE DESIGN, FOR LIKE A PHASE ONE AND TWO AND GO AHEAD AND DO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF PHASE ONE.

WE'RE DOING THE DESIGN FOR BOTH PHASES WHICH IS MORE EFFICIENT NOT ONLY DOES IT MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING PHASE ONE THE WAY WE WANT TO, BUT THEN WE ARE READY TO GO FOR PHASE TWO.

>> OKAY. >> SO, YEAH.

JUST PHASE ONE OF COUNTRY -- >> YEAH.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS GO TO GO SAY. STAY WITH THE PRACTICE WE HAVE BEEN DOING AND DO PHASE ONE PLUS ENGINEERING.

>> AGREE. NOW YOU'RE AT 39.635.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> YOU HAVE TO MOVE THE MERRITT INTERCONNECTOR, DO PHASE TWO AND SOMETHING ELSE.

>> OKAY. OH. KEEP YOUR FINGERS CROSSED THAT GETS FUNDED. IF IT DOESN'T, YOU HAVE THAT MONEY SITTING THERE. HARD TO SAY RIGHT NOW.

>> IT'S HARD TO SAY. THAT'S WHERE I WOULD TAKE THAT IF WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP UNDER 40, YOU KNOW I WOULD TAKE THAT, WHAT WAS THE PHASE 22 FOR HERFURTH?

>> 1.8. YEAH.

SO THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE OVER. I WOULD TAKE OUT THE COUNTRY AIR ESTATES AND MAKE THAT ONE A IF THE MERRITT DOESN'T WORK.

IF IT DOESN'T WORK, YOU CAN ONLY SPEND THAT BOND DOLLARS ON OTHER ROADS. YOU CAN'T TRANSFER TO PARKS.

I WOULD RATHER PUT OUR PARKS IN. IF WE WITH WIGGLE ROOM IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, THAT WOULD BE IN TWO.

>> I WOULD RATHER GO OVER $40 MILLION AND LEAVE ANOTHER SECOND NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT IN HERE.

>> I'M COMPLETELY FINE WITH THAT TOO.

WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT WHERE WE WANT, HOW FAR UP

WE WANTED TO GO. >> LARKSPUR IS 1.7.

>> ARE WE DOING PHASE TWO. >> I WOULD LEAVE COUNTRY ESTATES IN HERE PHASE ONE. AND PUT THE 1.8 FOR HERFURTH AND GO OVER 40 MILLION. BY ANOTHER 3.2.

>> NO, >> OKAY.

>> NO. NO.

>> I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT I WOULD DO.

DOESN'T MEAN WHAT YOU WOULD DO. I WILL LEAVE COUNTRY AIR IN HERE AND ADD 1.8 MILLION FOR HERFURTH.

THAT'S ALL I WAS SAYING. IF YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT

PROPOSAL, RECOMMENDATION IT. >> REMEMBER SHE HAS A

CONCUSSION. >> THAT IS SO BAD.

>> I'M SURPRISED YOU DIDN'T RECOMMENDATION INDUSTRIAL

COME ON. >> NO.

>> I JUST SAID I WOULD VALUE ENGINEER INDUSTRIAL.

ONLY GO UP TO CAMP BOW WOW.

>> THERE YOU GO, PAM, THAT'S A MIDDLE GROUND.

>> THE VERY EDGE OF THE DARK PARKING LOT.

>> IN ALL SERIOUSNESS. WHAT DOES THIS INDUSTRIAL ESTIMATE INCLUDE? ONLY UP TO -- WHAT STREET?

>> PGBT TO DART. >> EVERYTHING WEST OF THERE IS

FINE. >> YEAH.

AND ACTUALLY THE WORST PART IS THE FURTHER EAST YOU GO.

>> YES. I DON'T THINK YOU COULD

BIFURCATE THAT STREET. >> YOU MEAN BICYCLE.

>> IT WAS A JOKE. IT WAS A JOKE.

>> IT WAS A JOKE. >> I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE INDUSTRIAL OFF THIS LIST IF Y'ALL WANT TO RECONSIDER.

>> NO. NO.

NAH. >> I AM WITH YOU, MAYOR.

>> I KNOW YOU ARE. WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK?

DO WE LIKE WHAT WE HAVE? >> I LIKE WHAT WE HAVE.

>> YEAH, I WOULD LEAVE IT. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

>> ANOTHER 100 MILLION WOULD HELP.

>> THE OTHER THING WE COULD DO IS WE COULD PUT THE CONCRETE PAVEMENT REPLACEMENT AT $2 MILLION TO KEEP US AT 40.

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YOU DO HAVE TO TELL A STORY. RIGHT?

>> YOU MEAN, I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THAT.

JUST HANG ON. ARE WE OKAY TO GO OVER?

>> IT'S, IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THING TO SAY, WE CAN DO THIS BOND WITHOUT INCREASING THE ACTUAL TAX RATE TO SAYING WE CAN DO THIS BOND BUT IT'S GOING TO INCREASE OUR TAX RATE BY TWO 10THS OF A CENT WERE IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PRESENTATION. IN THE MERRITT INTERCONNECTOR ROAD MONEY FREES UP, WE CAN PUT IN CONCRETE REPLACEMENT.

NOBODY IS VOTING FOR CONCRETE REPLACEMENT BUT PEOPLE WANT TO SEE THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS START TO BE INVESTED IN.

>> WAIT A MINUTE, CONCRETE PAVEMENT IS ALREADY AT $3 MILLION. BUT THE ALLEY WAS THE ONE NOT AT

THE THREE MILLION THAT -- >> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> I'M JUST SAYING WITH THE CONCRETE DOWN TO TWO MILLION, AND BRING THAT OTHER MILLION FOR MERRITT INTERCONNECTOR IF IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH. BUT, NAH.

>> WELL, LET'S VOTE ON THAT GUYS.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT PROPOSITION RAISE YOUR HAND?

>> BRIAN WAS GOING TO VOTE. CAN HE VOTE ISN'T

>> YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE A MILLION OUT OF CONCRETE PAVEMENT REPLACEMENT AND YOU PUT IT IN FROM THE MERRITT INTERCONNECTOR

IF IT DOESN'T COME TO FRUITION? >> RIGHT.

>> I THINK IT'S PERSONALITY FOR US TO -- IMPORTANT FOR US TO STAY AT A BOND FUNDING AMOUNT TO TELL THE PUBLIC IT'S NOT GOING

TO INCREASE THEIR TAX RATE. >> THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.

>> WHAT IS THAT AMOUNT? >> IT WAS AROUND 40.

IS >> A NEW GUIDANCE AS TO WHAT

THAT AMOUNT IS? >> WE'RE STILL STICKING TO THE 40. UNDERSTAND THAT EVEN AS OF THE ELECTION, WE STILL WON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE PROPERTY

TAX VALUES AS OF >> RIGHT.

>> SURE. GUYS, CAN I MAKE A COUNTER

BEFORE YOU VOTE? >> YEAH.

IT IS, I BELIEVE IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE DO A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR IN CONCRETE PAVEMENT REPLACEMENT.

WE HAVE BUILT AN ENTIRE BUDGET STRATEGY AROUND THIS.

I WOULD PREFER TO SEE US PHYSICALLY FOR THE PURPOSES OF OUR STRATEGY AND PLANNING AND ALL THAT, THAT YOU BUMP THE MERRITT ROAD TO 2.2 AND KEEP THE CONCRETE AT THREE.

>> THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY NEXT PROPOSAL, BRIAN.

>> SORRY, MAYOR. >> I WAS JUST GOING TO GO THERE.

>> MAY I MAKE A MOTION? >> SO, WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK?

>> LEAVE CONCRETE AT 3. PUTTING MERRITT 2.2 AND KIEPING

US AT 40 MILLION? >> I LIKE IT.

>> SO NOW, YOU WANT TO MAKE IT 40 MILLION EVEN AND GET RID OF

435 SOMEWHERE? >> YEAH, REDUCE WET ZONE.

>> YES. PERFECT.

>> I WAS GOING TO BE MY >> YEAH.

THERE YOU GO. >> JUST EVEN THE DIFFERENCE OUT.

MAKE IT LIKE 665. >> HERE'S WHAT I CAN PROMISE YOU, WE'RE GOING TO SPEND WHATEVER YOU GIVE US.

>> ANGIE SAID SHE'S OKAY WITH THAT.

>> I WILL MAKE IT 665. AND KEEP IT 40 MILLION.

>> 565. >>

>> LOOK AT YOU GO. I'M GOING TO SEND THEM YOUR

NUMBER, WHITNEY. >> AARON, YOU NEED TO LEARN TO

AIR BRUSH. >> YEAH, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO

LEARN TO AIR BRUSH. >> GET A BLOW DRYER AND PAINT.

>> I ALREADY STARTED. ANYBODY KNOW THE SCORE OF THE

GAME? >> YOU WANT MY TO TELL

>> WHAT GAME? >> THANK YOU.

YANKEES AND RANGERS. >> SO I LIKE THIS.

I'M GETTING A HEADACHE. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO GO ANYWHERE

ELSE? >> YOU WANT ME TO HIDE THESE SO YOU CAN SEE THE PROJECTS AND THE AMOUNTS SO YOU'RE HAPPY WITH IT?

>> OKAY. WE ARE RIGHT AT 40.

THAT IS AMAZING. >> INTERCONNECTOR 2.2.

WET ZONE, 565. SAPPHIRE BAY, 11.8.

HERFURTH. 3.3.

LONG BRANCH, 2735. EMERGENCY SIRENS, THEN 36.

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TOLLER BUSINESS BARK 2157. LAKE LAND HEIGHTS PHASE TWO, 1634. ALLY CONSTRUCTION, TWO.

COMMUNITY PARK 500. COUNTRY AIR ESTATES AND ENGINEERING. 344.

>> I DIDN'T KNOW WE INCREASED HERFURTH PARK TO PHASE THREE.

>> I MISSED THAT. BY BAD.

IT WAS 6-1 VOTE. >> OH, THAT'S RIGHT.

I REMEMBER THAT. I WAS ALL ALONE.

AND THIS IS THE BREAK OUT SO PUBLIC WORKS WOULD BE 19699, 49% PARKS AND REC. AND PUBLIC SAFETY 13136.

>> THOSE ARE THE BREAK OUTS. >> GOOD MIX.

>> EXACTLY AT $40 MILLION. >> YEP.

THAT IS A GOOD MIX. >> WE HAVE NEVER HAD AN EVEN BOND LIKE, AN EVEN BOND NUMBER BEFORE.

>> WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK ABOUT PUTTING MERRITT AT 2 EVEN AND

BUMPING UP WET ZONE $200,000? >> FINE WITH

>> FINE WITH >> YEAH.

>> ALL RIGHT. YEAH LET'S DO IT.

SORRY TO BRING UP ANOTHER OPTION.

BRIAN AND ANGIE, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT?

BRIAN? >> MERRITT ROAD OR THE

LIST? >> NO.

WET ZONE. >> WHAT I'M ASKING, WE WENT DOWN TO 2.2 FOR MERRITT GO DOWN TO TWO.

>> MAYOR, THE HARD MATCH WAS 1.3.

>> I THINK IT WAS. WENDY?

>> 1.3. >> THE HARD MATCH WAS THE ONE MILLION 330. WE WERE TRYING TO DO IN OUR DISCUSSION WITH CIAB WAS AT LEAST FULLY FUND OUR PORTION IF WE WERE ABLE TO GET A 90-10 MATCH.

SO, IN THIS REGARD, IF WE ARE ABLE IT ON GET THAT, WE STILL WILL HAVE TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE BUT IT'S A LOT EASIER TO MAKE UP A MILLION DOLLARS DIFFERENCE THAN A $3 MILLION

DIFFERENCE. >> YEAH.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK?

>> I THINK THIS LOOKS GOOD. >> NOT TO, I KNOW WE'RE ON THIS I DON'T WANT TO MUDDY THE WATERS TOO MUCH.

WHEN ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THE FACILITIES CONVERSATION?

>> IF YOU WILL REMEMBER, MATT, WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO WAS TO WE HAVE A LOT MORE FACILITIES CONVERSATIONS IN THE MONTH TO

COME IN PREPARING FOR THAT. >> I REMEMBER THAT.

SOMETIMES I SLEEP TOO HARD AND THINGS TRICKLE OUT.

>> THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME. >> I DON'T GET TO SLEEP AT ALL.

>> OH, WHATEVER. >> I'M GLAD YOU ASKED MATT, IT

WAS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET. >> YEAH.

IN CASE IT CAME UP AND WE JUST WANT TO BE PREPARED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. I THINK WE HAVE COME UP WITH A REALLY GOOD LIST. YOU KNOW, CAN WE PULL THE PRESENTATION DOWN AND BRING UP EVERYBODY'S PICTURE.

>> YEAH. >> I'M NOT VERY FAST AT THIS.

>> I WANT TO SAY THIS BECAUSE IT'S WORTH SAYING.

YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE KIND OF COMMITTING TO A BOND ELECTION WITHOUT AN INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE? AND I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU KNOW, THAT YOU KNOW WE KNEW FROM THE VERY BEGINNING THERE WOULD COME A TIME MAYBE THAT WOULDN'T BE THE PRIORITY. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF COVID HADN'T HAPPENED, MAYBE YOU PUSH THAT OUT OF THE LOOP A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT, I THINK UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, I THINK WE HAVE COME UP WITH A REALLY GOOD LIST AND ONE WE CAN SELL. THERE'S SOMETHING IN HERE PRETTY

MUCH FOR EVERYBODY. >> YOU KNOW BRIAN, I WOULD BE RECOMMENDING GOING ABOVE THE $40 MILLION IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE FACILITY SDIG -- DECISIONS WE NEED TO MAKE.

>> THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION.

I KNOW THAT CONVERSATION IS STILL TO COME.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK THE CIAB AND I KNOW WE HAVE SEVERAL ON HERE THAT ARE PART OF THE BOARD.

WHO SATURDAY CHAIR OF THE CIAB? BRIAN.

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>> CAN YOU TURN YOUR VIDEO ON? JUST BUSTED.

WHO IS THE VICE CHAIR? IS THAT --

>> JEFF. >> I'M GETTING A MESSAGE IT WON'T LET ME DO IT. BRIAN, JUST SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT YOUR TEAM AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT OR COMMENTS I WILL GIVE YOU THE

FLOOR. >> THERE YOU'RE ON.

>> GIVE YOU THE FLOOR >> I WANT TO THANK WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN DECEMBER THAT THE TEAM DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB PULLING TOGETHER IN GETTING THE RATINGS DONE, I THINK THEY WERE A NUMBER A PROJECTS THAT COULD HAVE GONE EITHER WAY.

WE HAD A PARTICULAR THEME I THINK IN WHAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU, TO TRY TO AFFECT THE MOST NUMBER OF RESIDENTS IN ROWLETT.

I UNDERSTAND THE DRIVE TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST THE NEIGHBORHOODS. I WILL SAY THE ONE, MY ONE DISAPPOINTMENT, I THINK THE BEST PROJECT IN ROWLETT IS MILLER ROAD. I THINK IT'S A TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECT FOR ROWLETT. IT'S NOT JUST A ROAD BUT A LIFESTYLE CHANGE FOR ROWLETT. THAT'S WHY I THINK IT ROSE TO

THE LEVEL IT DID. >> I DON'T THINK WE'RE GIVING UP

ON THAT. >> NO, I DON'T THINK SO.

I THINK BRIAN AND HIS TEAM ARE WORKING REALLY HARD TO GET THE KIND OF MONEY WE NEED INTO THESE MAJOR PROJECTS.

AND, OUR INTENT WAS TO TRY TO SUPPORT THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. THAT'S WHY YOU SEE OF THE PROJECTS RECOMMENDED BY THE CIAB, THE TOP PROJECTS THAT YOU KNOW THE BIG ROAD PROJECTS WERE UP THERE.

IN FACT, IF YOU LOOK THROUGH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, WE FOCUSED HEAVILY ON TOUCHING AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE WITH THE LIMITED $40 MILLION WE HAVE. SO, THOSE PROJECTS THAT DON'T MAKE IT IN THIS BOND, WE HOPE WILL MAKE INTO THE NEXT BOND.

I HOPE THE CITIZENS WILL AGREE. I THINK IT'S A GOOD BALANCE.

AND I THINK THE TEAM WOULD AGREE THIS IS VERY CLOSE TO THE KIND OF BALANCE THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR AS A GROUP.

SO. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT STEPS. I WOULD ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE ON THE TEAM THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADD THEIR THOUGHTS?

>> THIS IS MIKE. I ALSO SAT ON THE CIAB COMMITTEE AND DID THIS WORK WITH BRIAN. YOU KNOW, WE GOT A TOUGH TASK HERE HOLDING IT AT $40 MILLION AND ALL THE NEEDS THE CITY HAS.

I WILL GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MATT. I THINK I WAS ONE OF THE ONLY FOLKS THAT REALLY WAS PUSHING TO FINISH OUT THAT HERFURTH PARK.

I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT MADE THE $40 MILLION.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THE CITY FINISHES THAT PROJECT.

IT SHOULD BE A KEYSTONE TO THE CITY WHEN WE GET THAT DONE.

I DID A DRIVE BY THERE, I WAS REALLY DISAPPOINTED IN WHAT I SAW OVER THERE. I THINK IT REALLY WILL STAND OUT. IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DELIVER TO THE CITIZENS. I THINK IT WILL BE A GOOD DEAL TO COME THROUGH WITH THAT. AGAIN I UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS ARE THE PARAMETERS OF 40 MILLION BUCKS IS TOUGH TO HOLD TO.

THE ONE THING THAT MAY STICK OUT IN THIS PROPOSAL IS THE ALLEYS.

IT'S A LITTLE LIGHT. COMPARED TO WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE IN THE LAST TWO CYCLES. SO, YOU KNOW THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY THING YOU MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT.

WITHOUT TAKING IT FROM THE HERFURTH BUDGET.

BUT THANK THIS IS HARD WORK.

>> >> THANK YOU.

>> JUST START THE DEBATE ALL OVER AGAIN.

WHO WANTS FIVE MILLION IN ALLEYS VERSUS INDUSTRIAL? THAT WILL NEVER PASS. MIKE.

>> WHOA. I MEAN.

I DON'T KNOW. MIGHT.

>> I THINK THE OTHER SHOUT OUT I WOULD GIVE IS THE ROAD ALONG THE POLICE STATION. BLAKE WAS REALLY PUSHING FOR THAT ONE. I KNOW THAT DREW HOWARD HAS A BUSINESS BACK THERE. Y'ALL KNOW HE PASSED AWAY THIS LAST YEAR DUE TO COVID. I WAS HOPING MAYBE THAT AT SOME POINT THAT MIGHT BE RENAMED AFTER HIM.

I THINK SOMEBODY THREW THAT UP AT ONE POINT.

BUT HE DID ASK ME TO GET ON THIS BOARD AT ONE TIME AND THEN HAD ME COME PICK HIM UP FOR LUNCH SEVERAL TIMES JUST SO I WOULD RIDE DOWN THE ROAD AND REALIZE HOW AWFUL IT IS.

IT IS LIKE A ROAD YOU WOULD EXPERIENCE IN A THIRD WORLD

COUNTRY. >> IT'S WORSE THAN

>> IT IS. >> IT'S WORSE.

MUCH WORSE. >> I THINK DREW IS SMILING DOWN

ON US. >> MIKE, I CAN TELL YOU, WHEN WE

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HAD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT CENTURY, DREW'S COMPANY WAS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING OF WHEN I AGREED WITH BLAKE WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT. IT'S AWFUL BACK THERE AND I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE IT MADE THE CUT.

>> OKAY. I THINK ANGIE,

>> >> YES.

ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY? COUNCIL?

>> GO AHEAD BRIAN. >> MAYOR, SO AT THIS POINT WE WILL NOT NEED TO RESCHEDULE A SECOND MEETING.

SO, WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE WILL WORK WITH DAVID AND OUR BOND COUNCIL TO GET THE BALLOT LANGUAGE.

AND YOU GUYS WILL SEE THAT AHEAD OF TIME BUT THEN YOU WILL BE PREPARED TO VOTE ON IT IN EARLY FEBRUARY.

AND THEN NOW THAT WE KIND OF KNOW WHAT PROJECTS WILL BE ON THERE, WE WILL START BUILDING OUR CAMPAIGN MATERIALS AS WELL.

THE EXCUSE ME, OUR EDUCATION MATERIALS.

>> I GUESS I JUST LIKE TO SAY ONE MORE THING AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS, BUT IT'S KIND OF WORTH SAYING AGAIN.

YOU KNOW, EVERY PROJECT WE DO AND THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECTS, BRINGS THAT NEXT NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT CLOSER TO FRUITION. WE GOT A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO BRING TO THE TABLE. SO, IF YOUR PROJECT DIDN'T MAKE IT ON THE LIST, IT'S ON THE LIST SOMEWHERE THIS GETS YOU CLOSER.

I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF HOLLOW WORDS.

GOT TO PRIORITIZE AND KEEP MOVING FORWARD.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

LET'S GO WATCH FOOTBALL. >> Y'ALL HAVE FUN WITH THAT.

>> GOOD NIGHT

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.